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Speaker 2: Wow, wow wow wow. We've got an emergency podcast. This

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Speaker 2: is No Dunks on the Athletic Network. Shout out to

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Speaker 2: the stream teamers joining us live right now on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: We just wrapped up a beach step in podcast. Right

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Speaker 2: at the end of it, Oh Harden Bin traded.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we are.

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Speaker 2: We got the emergency pod. I'm skets. We got Tasks,

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Speaker 2: we got Trey, we got Lelee, we got jd I

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Speaker 2: think we even have correct me if I'm wrong. We've

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Speaker 2: got the Southern Lawyer with us. We got all sounds

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Speaker 2: a try. Yeah, you can pluralize that, mister Southern Lawyer.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot happening here. Let's break it all down.

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Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Nets have won the James Harden sweepstakes, acquiring

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Speaker 2: him in a blockbuster deal here that includes the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: The Nets are getting James Harden. Okay, that's an easy part.

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Speaker 2: Nice check. The Rockets got at first Kris Lavert Curix

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Speaker 2: Dante exem four first round picks and four pick swamps.

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Speaker 2: All right, now, a lot of those coming by way

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Speaker 2: getting Cleveland's twenty twenty two first round pick by way

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Speaker 2: Jared Allen and Torrian Prince. Hey, not bad. But then

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Speaker 2: the Pacers get in on the fun. This was the

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Speaker 2: big swerve. Sham's was dropping this one. Suddenly the Rockets

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Speaker 2: were trading Karrislavert, who they obviously had just acquired in

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Speaker 2: Pacers for Victor Oladipo. A second rounder also went with

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Speaker 2: The Nets ad Harden, the Rockets ad Oladipo, Exum Courix

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Speaker 2: I guess a second round pick if I have that right? Wow,

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Speaker 2: where do you want to start?

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Speaker 1: Wow? All I care about is the Brooklyn Nets. They're

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Speaker 1: the favorite in the Eastern Conference. Log it in They're

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna work really well. James Harden when

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Speaker 3: Well maybe possibly, Yeah. I want to see it out

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Speaker 2: This, right. I Am not comparing James Horden to Paul

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Speaker 4: Well, I think this is an awesome trade for basically

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Speaker 2: You're kidding me.

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Speaker 4: We got James Harden and Kyrie Irving on the same

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Speaker 4: At least they have a relationship. You saw him be

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Speaker 4: first time Kevin Durant really needs to get on James

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Speaker 4: Harden to tell him, hey, man, you need to bust

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Speaker 2: You need to cut when I have the ball.

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Speaker 4: Because Durant has the status to be able to tell

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Speaker 1: They got their guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's okay with it because he said,

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Speaker 3: But the Lakers did that as well to get Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 2: The good thing is they have hard and under contract here.

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Speaker 2: on NBA Twitter. Let's like pivot to the Rockets sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, tasks, how the Rockets did

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Speaker 1: some keros. But yeah, we have seen nice flashes of

429
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Speaker 1: Victor Oladipo. And you know, it's an interesting move right now,

430
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Speaker 1: Like right as we're talking here, they get Victor Oldepo

431
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Speaker 1: for a few months, and then Victor Oldepo becomes a

432
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Speaker 1: free agent, and Victor Oldepo's he's playing for between what

433
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody's going to sign him to at the

434
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Speaker 1: base a ten, twelve, fifteen million dollar deal, or if

435
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: he looks amazing, somebody you could sign him to a max.

436
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: So this is this is a huge showcase for Victor Oladipo.

437
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of he's such a unique player

438
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 1: in the NBA way he moves out there, he's he's

439
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But the I just I wonder, as

440
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 1: far as players go, how that's all going to shake down.

441
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: You got John Wall playing handling the ball, Victor old

442
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 1: Deeple's gonna want to get paid. So that's uh, that's

443
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: just an interesting experiment for the next few months. But

444
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 1: as Trey said, it doesn't really matter. They got all

445
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Speaker 1: this draft capital. They're just they're looking towards the future,

446
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 1: and it's not so much what you pick from those

447
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: draft picks, what those result into, what those results in

448
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 1: terms of players, But sometimes to move those picks is

449
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 1: the important part, because yeah, there are a lot of

450
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,640
Speaker 1: them are Brooklyn's picks, and Brooklyn plans to be good,

451
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 1: so they should be in the twenties. But you can

452
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: swap those, you know, at some point you cash in

453
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 1: on those babies. And they had to do something like

454
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: that because the cupboard was absolutely bare. I think I

455
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 1: would have liked it if it was a Jared Allen

456
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: or a Caroselivert a little bit more but at the

457
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: same time, that's as many picks that you as you

458
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Speaker 1: can possibly get. We are not draft experts on this show,

459
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 1: but they got four picks and four draft swaps. I

460
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 1: mean the maximum is usually seven, but they got one

461
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, Va Milwaukee there, so they maxed out. That's

462
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: that's all you should That's all you should desire as

463
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: a GM if you're gonna if you're Rafael Stone in

464
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 1: that position there, you gotta fill the cupboard, and they

465
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: did just that. That's how you got to build the team.

466
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Speaker 1: It might not be great for the Rockets these next

467
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: few months, but long term, that's what he had to do.

468
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 2: I would love I hope we find out details leakly

469
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 2: of what the Sixers were willing to offer, how far

470
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Speaker 2: they were willing to go. Let's assume Simmons is there. Okay,

471
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: he's the building block, but then what else was it?

472
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Speaker 1: Right?

473
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Speaker 2: You know, you're guessing the Rockets are saying, no, we

474
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: want Tyrese Maxie, we want Diebel and we want a

475
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Speaker 2: bunch of picks. And my gut says, obviously, I'm not

476
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Speaker 2: going off anything here. I'm not plugged in like Cham's,

477
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: but I'm willing to bet that Morey was like, we're

478
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Speaker 2: not doing both. Okay, we're not doing both to get

479
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: James Harden here. We'll go young guys, maybe a Diebel,

480
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: maybe even a Maxi. Sure, but we're not also like

481
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: going to get you even more picks giving up all

482
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Speaker 2: our future picks that we have.

483
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Speaker 1: It's one or the other man.

484
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: And you know, that's what I think probably happened here.

485
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: But then that leads me to my question of would

486
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Speaker 2: you rather have Ben Simmons at the end of the

487
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: day and less picks lately than Ola Depot entering free

488
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: agency and what they made out with here.

489
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Speaker 3: It's a good question because I think Simmons is the

490
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: better player than Victor Oladipo, but Victor Olatupo it goes

491
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 3: to a good situation because he's pretty much the most

492
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: valuable free agent coming into the twenty one twenty two season.

493
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, there's guy's like Kawhi Leonard. I'm taking him

494
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Speaker 3: off the table because I think he'll probably sort of

495
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: stay with the Clippers. I'm saying, of those players who

496
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: could move around and really use this opportunity to show

497
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Speaker 3: other teams that he's healthy and can still be potentially

498
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 3: an All star player. This is a great situation for

499
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 3: him because he's going to be playing alongside John Wall

500
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Speaker 3: and he's going to get a real opportunity because he's

501
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: been okay so far, and in for Indiana, he hasn't

502
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 3: been playing back to backs, but that's more sort of

503
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: to do with recovering still from his injury. So it's

504
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 3: a great situation for him and the Rockets kind of

505
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: get the first look to see if he is someone

506
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Speaker 3: that they want to invest in long term. Do you

507
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Speaker 3: want to give him a five year, one hundred million

508
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: dollar contract. Maybe someone will. You know, we always see

509
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: these sort of things and it depends on how desperate

510
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 3: a team is. So he's still young enough that I

511
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: think he can still bring that value to a team.

512
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: So it's good for the Rockets and you know, Ben Simmons.

513
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: I think Ben Simmons the problem he has made himself

514
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: right now is that he's not untradable for a young guy.

515
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: He should be sort of untradeable because he's young, and

516
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: he's athletic, and he's quick and he's strong, but he

517
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 3: hasn't developed that offensive game, that shot that has made

518
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: him untouchable, and so that's probably why the Sixers were like, yeah,

519
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 3: you know, we're prepared to trade him. He's a good player,

520
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: very good player, but maybe we can get something better

521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: than him. And that's what maybe cause the talks there

522
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Speaker 3: between the Sixers and the Houston Rockets at the Philadelphia

523
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: seventy six and Darren Moros there, like, I think he's good,

524
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Speaker 3: but I don't think we are a contender right now.

525
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 3: We need James Harden to take us to a different level. So,

526
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Speaker 3: you know, but the prospect for Ben Simmons, it's still

527
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 3: a young player is what teams want, you know, a

528
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Speaker 3: young All Star player already great defensive player, an All

529
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 3: NBA caliber player, that's what you want. But he just

530
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: still has some things on his game to work on

531
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Speaker 3: to make him a true superstar player, which I don't

532
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Speaker 3: think he.

533
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Speaker 1: Is just yet.

534
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Speaker 3: Oladipo, you knows about him. Did he have one really

535
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: good season or did that injury really set him back?

536
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 3: That's the real question now, because Oladipo was great there

537
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 3: for Indiana when he did make the All Star team,

538
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: then suffered that nasty injury and hasn't been able to

539
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 3: reach that level yet. But he's still young enough and

540
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 3: he's still got time to do that. The pace has

541
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: clearly thought he wasn't a part of their future. So

542
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 3: he goes to Houston now where he can prove things

543
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: to some people that it's like, hey, I'm still the

544
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: sort of guy that you can give that huge contract to,

545
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 3: and he's going to use this opportunity, I guess, for

546
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: the remainder of this season to prove that to other teams,

547
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: going in, as I say, to a season where the

548
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: free agents outside again outside of Kawhi Leonnard Youn already

549
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 3: know he's a superstar. Everyone's going to want him. Chris

550
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: Paul a little bit older, Blake Griffin a little bit

551
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: not as effective. Then it's guys like Oladipo who other

552
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: teams will look at and decide whether or not he's

553
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Speaker 3: a part of their future.

554
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Speaker 2: What a huge sigh of relief though for the Rockets

555
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: here just in dealing James Harden. I mean when natemerit

556
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: was becoming the way he was playing, obviously, all the

557
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: teammates turning on him in postgame interviews and him obviously

558
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: giving up on the on the team. I'm not saying

559
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: he's not at fault, but it must be for for

560
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: Stone and for Steven Silas his first year coaching to

561
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: like another Steve Now I can at least coach like

562
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: a team. I mean it's wall Oladipo, Eric Gordon, PJ. Tucker.

563
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: We thought might be included in a James Harden trade.

564
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: He's still there as of now. Christian. Would you know

565
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: the Rockets on paper, everybody healthy. It's not a bad

566
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: five right there, and by any means, I'm not saying

567
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: that's a championship contender, but that's a pretty good team

568
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: I think still so Yeah, I'll be fascinating to see

569
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: the Rockets wanted what they told us was obviously a

570
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: young franchise cornerstone and then a boatload of picks. Yeah,

571
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: and you're doing that Tray. It's like Ola Deepo. Is

572
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: he possibly he's still a youngish franchise cornerstone or not.

573
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: That's that'll be the big question mark of whether they

574
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: continue to sign him. I would think they have plans

575
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: to move forward with them if he plays the way

576
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: he's been playing for Indiana. But we'll see. They got

577
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: the boatload of picks, that's for damn sure. They made

578
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: out on those. I had people on Twitter last night

579
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: telling me nobody's gonna trade picks for James Harden right now?

580
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: The hell are you guys talking?

581
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: Come on, yes, they are.

582
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: He's mailing it in. He's pouting, he wants to be traded.

583
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna trade a lot of picks for him, just

584
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: like Drew Holiday, for crying out loud, got like three

585
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: picks for him. If he got that, James Harden's gonna

586
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: get more.

587
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Speaker 1: Don't check the replies. He don't check the replies.

588
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 2: Oh, these are people that I respect, I appreciate. I

589
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: couldn't believe they were coming to name those names all

590
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: right now. Benson Boom though, baby, former colleague, yeah who sports,

591
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: former NBA player, He had a cup of coffee right

592
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: in the NBA, I think he did, and obviously played overseas,

593
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: had some success. He was just saying, like, I don't

594
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: know if there's gonna be all that many picks included

595
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: in James Harden trade. Co Yeah, yeah, there are. That's

596
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: what the Rockets want. They're telling teams, go get me

597
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: a ton and you might get James Harden. And don't worry,

598
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: he won't be h eighteen points per game and having

599
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: all those pregame meals. You're gonna get the old James Harden.

600
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: All right, he'll be fine. And that's what I do

601
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: believe that. You know, the nets we talked about it

602
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: on this morning's podcast. You're gonna get James Harden bold.

603
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: He's not going to be brutal like he is just

604
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: walking through games like a little zombie right now and pouting.

605
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: He's not going to do that.

606
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: No, he was awesome to start the season, but the

607
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Rockets took it right to the line right like, this

608
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: could have gotten ugly. It could have gotten like Anthony

609
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Davis a couple of years ago. That's all folks, like

610
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: they could have been. They could have been that really soon.

611
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: Yesterday James Harden walked out of the press conference. But

612
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate how far they took it. I mean, they

613
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: created a little drama, but they didn't mess up their

614
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: franchise by any means. And yeah, there's guys like John

615
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Wall saying it's terrible when you're in a basketball situation

616
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: and somebody doesn't want to be there, we just can't

617
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: move forward. And you know, John Wall is speaking a

618
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: good game as so you know, this is his opportunity.

619
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: He is saying the right things. His is his opportunity

620
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: to help lead a team. So yeah, this just made

621
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: the NBA way more intriguing, even with the Rockets to

622
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, obviously with the Nets and the

623
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: other teams that got involved here, Yeah, it's a freaking blast. Yeah,

624
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing what the Rockets to do

625
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: and if, yeah, if Vic can be Vic, but yeah,

626
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: Harden's going to be Harden Harden. I love how everybody says, well,

627
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: James Harden can play defense in the playoffs. Remember he

628
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: blocked that shot to win a game. Yes he did,

629
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: But I think he can play enough alongside those other guys,

630
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: they're going to motivate each other, like, yeah, we're gonna

631
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 1: see him lolly gag in March. But when it comes

632
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: to May and June to try and get his first ship,

633
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I think everything will be right in Brooklyn. Everybody will

634
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: be on the same page.

635
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: And just to circle back very quickly to the Sixers league,

636
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: you said it could be maybe a little awkward, right

637
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: with Ben Simmons's name coming up in all these trade talks,

638
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: and here he is as of now still on the

639
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: Sixers roster. Maybe maybe he's still on the move. Maybe

640
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: there's a Bradley Beal trade to be had where the

641
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: Sixers pivot to that way, maybe that ends up working

642
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: even better for them. Like, we're not done here. The

643
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: NBA season's already been insane, so there could be more

644
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: trades coming. I'm just chucking that out there. Trade of

645
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: the other two teams that got in the mix here,

646
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: the Pacers, like I said, getting Karis Lavert, and the

647
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: Calves getting Jared Allen and Torrian Prince. You know, of

648
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: these two teams that sort of came out of left field,

649
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, which one of them or maybe both

650
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: of them impressed you most with what their hale here

651
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday.

652
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: Well, Skeet's my twenty twenty one motto has been pure positivity,

653
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 4: which is why I think there are four winners for

654
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: this trade. Every team did great, Like I love what

655
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: the Pacers did to swoop in and get Karris Lavert

656
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: because the question was going to be, what's going on

657
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: with Victor Oladipo this whole season. They're replacing him with

658
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: Kars Lavert, who is signed already to a couple extra

659
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: years on his deal, so you know he's going to

660
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: be around. You know he's likely that contract he's on

661
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: is likely going to be cheaper than what they would

662
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: have had to pay Victor Oladipo if he wanted to

663
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: stay around. He gives them similar stuff to what Oladipo

664
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: would be doing, playing a little bit off the ball,

665
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: but mostly able to get a bucket with the ball

666
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 4: in his hands. It's gonna be perfect for him to

667
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: fit alongside. I feel like he's a high IQ player,

668
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 4: which would fit nice next to Malcolm Brognen and Demonta

669
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: simonas eventually they're going to bring TJ.

670
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: Warren back.

671
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 4: The Pacers are looking a little bit dangerous. And then

672
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: if you're the Calves, you just swooped in and got

673
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 4: Jared Allen for tossing away a future first round pick

674
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: out of nowhere, you gotta love it. I mean, they've

675
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 4: got a ton of big guys now. The Raptors should

676
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: be calling the Calves immediately to see if they can

677
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: steal maybe at JaVale McGee, maybe even a Kevin Love

678
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: though I don't think.

679
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: He solves the defense issues.

680
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: But the Calves just to get Jared Allen when it

681
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: didn't feel like they were really in the mix for anything,

682
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 4: that's nice. He fits alongside the sex Land backcourt. Real

683
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: nice for their future pieces going ahead, they need a

684
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 4: nice wing. And then you're talking about a pretty solid

685
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: nucleus there in Cleveland as well.

686
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: So you like it for all four teams and thumbs

687
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 2: up for the Pacers and the Calves. What do you think, tas?

688
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: You agree with what Tray saying here?

689
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: Are you?

690
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: Are you high on everybody what they did here today?

691
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go Moses Malone full full foe. I'm

692
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited for everybody. Yeah, the Pacers, perfect, perfect move.

693
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Get a guy who signed long term instead of Victor

694
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: oladipot in Karis Lavert can't beat that. Yeah, I think

695
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: I think Kobe Altman did fantastic to make out that way.

696
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think I think we're We knocked it

697
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: out of the park everywhere. The Rockets got everything they

698
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: could for James Harden, the nets. Obviously, if things go south,

699
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: then the Picks are going to look terrible and it's

700
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a repeat. There's no way

701
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be a repeat of Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett.

702
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: No way, no way. This They've got two guys, you know,

703
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: just sort of like entering their prime. I guess no,

704
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: so I should say that, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's not.

705
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: It's not. They're not that old man. They're they're in

706
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: their prime. It's just not going to happen.

707
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Just don't put them on the cover of s I okay,

708
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: don't do Yeah no, I.

709
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's every I think the only disappointed

710
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: team is Philly for not being able to make a move.

711
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: And maybe they have another move, But to me, they

712
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: they started seven to one this season without beating anybody good.

713
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Their biggest win was the best team that they beat,

714
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: yes was yesterday against the Miami Heat, and that took

715
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: a forty five point performance from Joel EMBII. Their record

716
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: was decent to start, but they haven't been impressive. And

717
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: if you believe these rumors, which I think I do,

718
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: they came in here, they've got two stars. Darryl Mory said,

719
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking a year to watch these guys, see how

720
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: they play, and he made a decision ten games in

721
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: that said, well, you know what, I think we'd be

722
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: better with a more space floor for Joel Embi. Sure

723
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: feels that way. And I think they're the only ones

724
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: who lost out because they couldn't space that floor for

725
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: Joel and beat with James hard.

726
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: But maybe it will be Bradley Beal. As we talked

727
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: about who knows who knows?

728
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Leley?

729
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: What do you think of the Pacers and the Calves

730
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: in getting you know again Lavert and Tory excuse me,

731
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Jared Allen are the big names here for these teams respectively.

732
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good for the Calves. Jared Allen is a

733
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: very talented player and he's still young enough. I mean,

734
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: he's still got to work on his game. But yeah,

735
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 3: the Calves future is pretty broad. We're going to get

736
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: the six man and Darius back, though they're both being injured.

737
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: They had a great start of the season but it's

738
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: iled off a little bit there. But definitely, I think

739
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: the Cavs have got some more moves to make here

740
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: because they've got such a glut of big guys. They've

741
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: got some big contracts and they want to move on

742
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 3: from those. So I think that's going to happen. And

743
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: the Pacers, did you say the Paces? Yeah, yeah, a Ladipot.

744
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: It was a question whether or not they thought he

745
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: was going to be a part of their future. The

746
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: fact that they didn't really offer him a big contract

747
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: when they could have, you know, in the off season

748
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: was the sign that they were probably like, let's see

749
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: what type of player is because down in the bubble

750
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 3: he was okay, not great. And then when he came

751
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: back from injury last season, just before the shutdown, again

752
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: he showed flashes of being good, but not I don't

753
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: think enough to convince the Paces that they wanted to

754
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: invest a huge deal, a huge contract in him. So

755
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: they're going to try somebody else. And I think Karris Lavert,

756
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: you know, is he one of those players that maybe

757
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: we do overrate him just a touch, you know, because

758
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: I think he's good. But he's also coming off an

759
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: injury as well, So.

760
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: You know what, if we do, he's going to the

761
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: perfect spot because he's not going into the Indiana Pieces

762
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: being the number one gay.

763
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

764
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: It's like we argue who's the All Star on the

765
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: Piecers Sabonis or as it broad died, because those guys

766
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: are probably better than Kiers Laverts. I have enough basketballs

767
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: to go around.

768
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 4: You're talking about two all stars there, and Karis Lavert

769
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: that's a high usage guy. I'm not sure if it'll

770
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 4: work out.

771
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: We'll see what the fit is. That's great, though he

772
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be like I'm like, you don't have

773
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: to be like Carselvert. You gotta be our twenty five

774
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: to thirty point per game score. You gotta do that.

775
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Like he can fit in a little more organically, a

776
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: little uh, just freely. I think with those guys being

777
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: the better guys on the team, I don't think we

778
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: underrate him. I actually think again to make the comparison,

779
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: I think I think it's there that he's gonna sort

780
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: of blossom into an Oladipo guy pre injury, because you

781
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: look at the numbers and the impacts they had in

782
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: limited minutes. You know, I'm talking about Lavert last year mainly,

783
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: and even this year when now Katie's in the mix

784
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: and Kyrie, I see it, I see it. I think

785
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: they're somewhat similar in a good way. I love what

786
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: the Pacers did and like Tas said, Oladipo was leaving

787
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: and they just got Karis Lavert, who I'm just telling

788
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: you is a pretty damn comparable player in my opinion

789
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: for what he's under contract for like three more years

790
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: at nothing, nothing like in the like it's like sixteen

791
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: seventeen not it's nothing. That's a great contract. I love

792
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: the Piecers sliding in here and getting him in the mix,

793
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: and I love I love Jared Allen as well, So

794
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: I'm you know, the Calves have Drummond, love Javel, Larry

795
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Nance is a big guy. Who else maker?

796
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: I think thom got waves already.

797
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: On the but now you know they got five giant dudes,

798
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: so yeah, maybe they're not done wheeling a deal with yeaheah.

799
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like this deal. We never saw

800
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: the Paces and the Calves coming into this, so this

801
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: was probably in the works, you know, for for a

802
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: couple of days here I would I would say, I

803
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't say. This is all just unfolded this afternoon. So yeah,

804
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: good good for them to get good too, good players

805
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: in Lavert and Jared Allen, because you would think that

806
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: the Rockets would have one of those talented players in return,

807
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: but instead they just decaid, decided to give us as

808
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: many draft picks as we can possibly have here. Yeah

809
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: they got them, I mean yeah again, like you you

810
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: hold these teams to ransom, and I'm sure that Raphael

811
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: Stone was on the phone saying Daryl Morey is going

812
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: to give us this, So it's up to you. It's

813
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 3: up to you if you want to give us those picks.

814
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh you think it's like that classic photo of Joe Dumar.

815
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: Exactly ones, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean it has to be,

816
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

817
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: Really.

818
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: I mean we've seen that in the past, like out

819
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: of the Darren Williams trade. That was the rumor as well,

820
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: like that the that the Knicks or the basically the

821
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: Jazz drove up the price to the Knick saying we're

822
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: going to trade them to New York if you don't

823
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: come through with the goods and they do, so, you know, when.

824
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Teams are Deutch.

825
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: But I mean, it would be really interesting to know

826
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: if this Kyrie Irving situation wasn't playing out the way

827
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: that it was, if that was still you know, if

828
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: the Nets were still going to make this move, because

829
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 3: I mean, seeing Kyrie last night on the Zoom, I

830
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: wonder if that was like, all right, we've gotta do

831
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: something here. We don't know what the hell is going

832
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: to happen with this guy for the rest of the season.

833
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: Who knows?

834
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: But scare, what do you mean that he was on

835
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: his computer? I mean, what do you mean that he

836
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: was on a zoom.

837
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: Well you didn't see he was on the zoom with him.

838
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

839
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying the Nets probably don't know what

840
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 3: they're getting out of Irving, right, so they're.

841
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, what's that communication line exactly?

842
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Kyrie Irving took a game or two off

843
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: for personal reasons and then he came back and he

844
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: was fine, you know, that's I think why they hesitated

845
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 3: on not making this move earlier. They wanted to sort

846
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: of see if two stars were going to be enough

847
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: rather than getting that third star in there. But now

848
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: perhaps they're like, we're not sure if we've got the

849
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: two stars right now because we're not really sure what

850
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: Kyrie Irving.

851
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Sure going to And then to that Spencer Dinwity of

852
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: course going out with an injury too, and what the

853
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: fact that had on us. Yeah, I think there's something there.

854
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: This is crazy. Anything else to add to this exciting

855
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: NBA day? Feels like the trade deadline doesn't not training them.

856
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: More moves are coming.

857
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it definitely feels like more moves are coming

858
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: because this has everything. This has a little bit for everything.

859
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 4: If you love super teams, you love this for the Nets.

860
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: If you love a team that always wants to be competitive,

861
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 4: put the best product out there, you love it for

862
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: the Piecers. If you love a rebuilding project, you love

863
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: it for the Houston Rockets. And if you love a

864
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: weirdo team that can make some more moves, it's the

865
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: Cleveland Cavaliers. There's gotta be some sort of more trades

866
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: out there, right. The market is open. There are imbalances

867
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: now on rosters of where players are, so it seems

868
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: like people will be a movement and no dunks will

869
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 4: be banging the classics out, no doubt about it.

870
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel like all I've done today

871
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: is sit on this zoom and talk to you. Yeah,

872
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: it's true. We're gonna we're gonna hang up here and

873
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: there will be like a Bradley Beal trade coming down

874
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: the pipeline in an hour. I'll talk to you guys

875
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: basically in an hour.

876
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: And we're not sitting here like Kyrie Irving with our hand, uh,

877
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, caressing our chin.

878
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: No, he was just deep in thought.

879
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: Test No, I know, Kay Irving was was I listen.

880
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: I think Kay's coming back and they're gonna be totally fine.

881
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: He's he's doing whatever he's doing, and yeah, the East

882
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: is the East is exciting. You know, I underestimate the

883
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: Bucks every year, but they're gonna be there. And I always,

884
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: I always there's one team I don't really enjoy watching.

885
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: Usually it's the Pacers because he just they're gonna be good.

886
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: But this year I'm in. I'm in on the Pacers.

887
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: I love watching them. And to add Carro Sliver. When

888
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 1: you know you're you're not gonna be able to really

889
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: reel in a huge free agent if you're Indiana, that's

890
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: just the way it is. To play along with the

891
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: team that's seven and four, winning on the road, and

892
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: Miles Turner's playing the best Miles Turner he's ever been

893
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: with four blocks per game. Like that's that's a team man,

894
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: that they're It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard.

895
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: You're so high on the Brooklyn Nets. I want to

896
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: be a Dennis Struder right now and put a Benjamin

897
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: on it. Would you bet right now in the Nets

898
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 2: winning the the title? One hundred bucks?

899
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh title?

900
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: Uh?

901
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: Let's can we win the East first? You know you

902
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: want to put that on the on the line.

903
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: Sure you put you'd put a hundred bucks on the

904
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: on the nets with Harden in the mix there winning

905
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference this year.

906
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd put it on. I mean i'd probably get

907
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: some good odds.

908
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, look me in the eye. Look me in

909
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: the eyes?

910
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Which camera should I look?

911
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at me, look at me. I would take

912
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: that bet. I'll take that bet. I'll bet against them

913
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: going all the way to the finals.

914
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, Benjamin, Okay, virtual handshake.

915
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: Look in the eye. There we go. Let's make this juicy.

916
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's call it there. Like I said,

917
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: there'll be a trading a mirror hour after we record this. Anyway,

918
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,800
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Speaker 2: want to grab that. Oh, there's the websitery the great work. JD.

945
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Way to stay on, man, JD.

946
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: You've been on the zoom all day.

947
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Man, I can't believe you're still listening to us talk

948
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: about back. How you holding up? JD? Any final thoughts

949
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: on this big blockbuster deal.

950
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's very exciting. I grabbed I was

951
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: monitoring Twitter, so I just in case. I grabbed a

952
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: couple of pseudo tweets of the night. One was doctor

953
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 5: Kenjiong congratulating the thing of a jag on going take Houston.

954
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: It was kind of cute as singer.

955
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. And then this one. I hope they recreate this.

956
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 5: This is uh Durant and Harden and Mom made pizza els.

957
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: If you're listening to the podcast, you're just gonna have

958
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 5: to check it out on YouTube.

959
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: It's great stuff.

960
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: Crazy.

961
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: Someone pointed out that the Browingtons are back together, right, Oh, man, Je,

962
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: that's why. Ye, Jeff Green's on the Nets. So Katie

963
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: Hardin and Jeff Green, Yeah, the Browingtons. I don't think

964
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: Westbrook was not a part of the Broingtons. No, yeah,

965
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: he wasn't browing down with the brington So wow. So

966
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: the Nets maybe just won the trade because they got

967
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: the Broingtons back together. It might be enough as it is. Uh.

968
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: Let's hear from you guys, though, especially in the YouTube comments.

969
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: Who do you think won the trade? Do you think

970
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: all four teams made out well. Are you worried about

971
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: the nets, especially with the Kyrie situation, Let's hear from you, guys.

972
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow with some more classics, because once

973
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: a day we go back to the classic factory task.

974
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: You'll have what you need to know early tomorrow morning.

975
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: On Thursday, we'll get that up in podcast form and

976
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: on YouTube, and then we'll have the Daily Show again

977
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: breaking this down in greater detail in the game tonight.

978
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us though. That was a blast. Clipper bros.

979
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

980
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up.

981
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

982
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, and guys, I gotta go. Danielle

983
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: made pizza.

984
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: All Brace the day people.

985
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: You could stay.

986
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: Every day.

987
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: My dad, you happy every minute.

988
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: It's been so long with your do wanna wait for

989
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: it happened already. It's gonna be gravy.