1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: What's up, Vatterination. We are back and we are live 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: from the Mental all another episode a Happy Hour. It's 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: uh me, Joe and Serena. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: And Serena and we have John B here with us 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: as well. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: John B is our first day the night. We have 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people coming on, a. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Whole lineup of men and ready to tell. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: From what I'm being told right now, John, you have 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: some fans trying to get photos in right now, right. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's been amazing. It's been overwhelming, but I love it. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: How overall, what was your your favorite moment of tonight. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: To night? I mean seeing Gary was incredible. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 4: The heartfelt story, I mean what he had with his 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: you know, passway wife. That's That's what I'm looking for, 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: in the fact that he was already able to experience 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: that and his back to doing it again. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: I think it is an inspiration for us all. 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: And he was looking for advice from us, but like, dude, 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: he has all the advice, Like I want to learn 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: from that guy, like that guy's done it before. 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a cute conversation because he was looking 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: at you guys being like, what am I getting myself into? 25 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: And you guys were looking at him being like Gary, like, 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: we want advice from you. So I feel like it 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: was a lot of fun to have him come out 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: and be able to be there with you guys tonight. 29 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: He yeah, he was on this podcast and he did 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: the same. He asked us for advice, and my arrogant 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: asked was like, all. 32 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 5: Right, I'll give you advice, Like, let's go ask him 33 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 5: the advice. 34 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: What about with Charity. You feel like you got closure tonight. 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I did. 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: You know, I was really surprised when I got let go, 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: and I think a lot of the audience was too, 38 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: And I just kind of wanted to get insight onto 39 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 4: if she was seeing the same things that I was saying, 40 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 4: you know, because like, am I that lack of self 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: awareness where I thought things were going one way and 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: she thought it was going somewhere totally different. But it 43 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: is fair like the guys remaining were really great guys, 44 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: and I love him and at the end of the day, 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: she just didn't see me as somebody who she was 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 4: going to go to hometowns with, and that makes sense, 47 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 4: you know, And so you know, I'm not going to 48 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 4: be everyone's favorite. I put myself out there I was 49 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 4: as vulnerable as possible, and I think that's all I 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: can really ask myself. So I'm proud of what I 51 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: put in, and obviously it didn't work out, but I 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: think my person's still out there so ware to get 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: up back out there eventually. 54 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: All Right, we uh, we don't. Obviously you can't tease anything, 55 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: so we don't know if you want to Paradise or not. 56 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: But are there. 57 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Any girls within batter Nation that you are interested in? 58 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: Any good that's spicy? I mean, there's a lot of 59 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: beautiful women. 60 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: I think that there's a lot of some individuals from 61 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: Zach season that I think are very beautiful that hypothetically, hypothetically, 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 4: if I were to go. 63 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: To Paradise, I would be interested in there. But we'll see. 64 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm open to really anything. 65 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: I don't think I have a particular type, and I 66 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 4: think it's all really about the connection, and so as 67 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: long as the connection is there, I think everything else 68 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: will come with it. So that's kind of what I'm 69 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: looking for, you know, if I do end up meeting 70 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: all of them, I know San Diego's kind. 71 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: Of hot spot. 72 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 4: I'm kind of the opposite side in New York. But 73 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: if I get a chance to meet some of them. 74 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: Hopefully a spark can happen, because yeah, I think all 75 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 4: of them would be a great fit. 76 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Well that was a sweet and bullshit answer, So give us, 77 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: just give me a name. I just want to know 78 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: your tight. 79 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 80 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: I think that Mercedes is beautiful. I think she's definitely. 81 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: When I was on the list, there's a girl from 82 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 4: a few seasons ago, Jazz and Win, it was wild Back. 83 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: I thought she was really beautiful. 84 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 4: I don't know if she's still kind of in the 85 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Bachelor Nation realm, but I thought she was cool and 86 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: uh and Rachel Reschia as well. Like I didn't get 87 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: to see her season as much because it wasn't on 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: Hulu for some reason. But I think she's pretty cute too. 89 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of good girls out there. 90 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: And Okay, that's all. 91 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: That's all I want it, that's all I wanted. 92 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: Details. I gave it to you. 93 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: And you are? You said you live in New York. 94 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: I do. I moved there eleven months ago. 95 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: Nice Where what part? What area? 96 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: So I'm in Grammarcy, but I'm actually moving to Fida 97 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: next week. 98 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: So we're in New York. We're like Chelsea yeah. 99 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: Okay, great area. I love that area. 100 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we like it too. 101 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Okay, what uh what else we got any other dating questions? 102 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: I just want to hear more about your thoughts in 103 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: the night. Was there anything going into tonight that happened 104 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: that was like super unexpected? I know there's a lot 105 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: of brain in conversation, and you obviously had kind of 106 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: like a heated conversation right before he left. Do you 107 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: guys feel like you kind of moved past that squashed 108 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: any beef between you guys? 109 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the guys were pretty mature about everything. 110 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 4: I didn't fully expect Peter to be there and bring 111 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: up what he brought up, and I caught me a 112 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: little bit off guard because you know, although I didn't 113 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 4: participate in the FP thing, I did well. 114 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: I did play a pretty. 115 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 4: Big role in him being a villain, you know, just 116 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 4: you know, making fun of him at some points, because 117 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: he really steed me the wrong way that that first night. 118 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: And I think it was a little bit out of 119 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: character for. 120 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: Me to focus so much and beat off uh uh, 121 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: kind of hit on a guy who's sorry. 122 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: Off. And this is why I didn't make it. 123 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: You know that that's what gets me, No, I think character. 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: Out of character for me a little bit, So I 125 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 4: did apologize to him afterwards. 126 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, I hope that we can all just move 127 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: past a lot of drama at the end of the day. 128 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 4: I mean, these guys ended up being some of my 129 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: best friends and I've always you know that these are 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: the brothers that I never had, always wanted, and so 131 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: I really appreciate them. 132 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: And although we had some drama, I think that we 133 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: can all pass this wrama. 134 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, who out of the guys would you 135 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: say you're closest with? 136 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: You know, I would say Joey, but Joey was when 137 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: on the podcast, he didn't say my name and he 138 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: texted me afterwards and he's like, I'm so sorry I 139 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: forgot you know. 140 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: It is a hard question. I remember being put on 141 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: the spot where they're like what girls are you close 142 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: to it like, oh my gosh, I'm trying to run 143 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: through the list, and if I missed someone feels so bad. 144 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: But it's okay, rile them off and if if you 145 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: miss one, we will hold you accountable. 146 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 4: So on my bacheloration questionnaire, I put Joey, Warick and 147 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: James and that was on hundredsent true. Two guys that 148 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: I think would have definitely would have added to that 149 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: is Za, Xavier and h and Tanner and Sean too. 150 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I became friends with all 151 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: of them, but those guys really stood out. Those are 152 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: guys who I would travel anywhere to be with them 153 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: and just you know, definitely gonna best runds throughout the 154 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: rest of our lives. 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: Wow, the real love story. 156 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: It's true that that's the only love story that I 157 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: got to take away with us, but I'll take it. 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: What What are your thoughts on Xavir's exit? 159 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I mean I talked to Xavier a little 160 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 3: bit beforehand, so I kind of knew what was coming. 161 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: But man, that dude tug himself a grave that is tough, 162 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: Like he didn't need a shovel. 163 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: He was digging his own hole. Yeah, I mean, I 164 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: love the guy. 165 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: I think that Zaber didn't say the words that he 166 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: wanted to, didn't come off the way he wanted to. 167 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: He's he's genuinely a good guy. 168 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: Like nothing apart from this whole journey has made me 169 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: think that he's anything other. 170 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: Than a stand up guy. 171 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, he obviously said the wrong things, and Charity 172 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: was extremely valid for sending him home. If sent that 173 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: to me, I would have no affirmations about that person, right, 174 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: So I totally get we're both coming from. I think 175 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: Zay wishes he would have been able to do it again, 176 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: but I think he's gonna learn from this, you know, 177 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: and be a better person for it. 178 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: So I think. 179 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Happens to John. We were huge fans of you this season. 180 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: We're so glad we got the chance to chat with you. 181 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: And thanks for coming on to Happy Hour today. 182 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I appreciate you guys. Thanks for taking the time. 183 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: All right up in the batter's box, everyone, we have 184 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the one and only Hot John. Hot John. 185 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 6: How he feeling I'm feeling good. I'm good. 186 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 7: I actually listened to you all and when they when 187 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 7: Ree and Fran brought that up to you, I was like, 188 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 7: oh my god, there's no way they're talking about hot 189 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 7: Sean on the show. But yeah, that was that was 190 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 7: a past life. But I'm feeling pretty good. It's great 191 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 7: to be on here with y'all. 192 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: How long has it been since you've heard someone call 193 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: you hot Sean. 194 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: It's been a while. 195 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 7: So when I interned at Barstool, I was like just 196 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 7: turned twenty one, like I was still in college living 197 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 7: in New York City. And how that came about is 198 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 7: like I went in the office the first day and 199 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 7: all the interns or like social media people they like 200 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 7: did the Viceroy program for the colleges, and Dave picked 201 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 7: me out of the bunch immediately, and he's like, who 202 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 7: the hell is this kid? 203 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 6: Like what is he doing here? 204 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 7: Pulled me up in front of the Camera's like you're 205 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 7: too good looking to work here, and then it stopped. 206 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 7: So I haven't heard that in a long time. It 207 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 7: brought back some memories and funny memories, like Re and 208 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 7: Fran like I think I had two conversations with them 209 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 7: and like they were talking about it. 210 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, I cannot believe this is coming out right now. 211 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 8: That's so funny. 212 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: Wow, your world have really collide. Collided, collided, moved from barstool, 213 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: were almost there, I was, I was one syllable, but 214 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: from barstool to Bachelor Nation. How do you feel like tonight? 215 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 5: What I think? So that went well. 216 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 7: I was expecting some fireworks, and there's definitely some moments 217 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 7: there that were like okay, like Aaron ass had had 218 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 7: some one liners that were pretty intense, but I think 219 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 7: it went well. I mean, like, truthfully, we did have 220 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 7: such an amazing group of guys here and we all 221 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 7: got pretty close. There's some moments there and we had 222 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 7: to talk about some stuff that was unfinished, and especially 223 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 7: regarding the braid and drama. But it was fun to 224 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 7: be out there. It's fun to see the guys again, 225 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 7: and I think we put on a good show. 226 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: So I actually really liked what you said at the 227 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: end with Brandon when you you said if he would 228 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: have just leaned in just a little bit, because I 229 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: do agree with that. I thought that was pretty spot on. 230 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: How about with Charity, you feel like you have closure 231 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: with her? 232 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I went I went up there and like 233 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 7: I wanted to go up and tell her to her face. 234 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: So what compelled you to do that? Did you feel 235 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: like the invite was open or were you just like 236 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: I'm taking my moment here. I want to sit next 237 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: to her and have this conversation. 238 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 239 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 7: I played it out and like when I was thinking 240 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 7: about what I want to say, because I thought about 241 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 7: what question I'd ask for a long time, and like 242 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 7: I kept coming back to like it choose farm and heart, 243 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 7: like there's nothing that I can ask that's going to 244 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 7: change the situation. So in my mind, I'm like, I'm 245 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 7: gonna ask her and come up and like tell her 246 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 7: I just want to say thank you and like you 247 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 7: were amazing, like truly just an incredible person. And I 248 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 7: got so much out of this experience, and truly because 249 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 7: she was the person on the other end, and I 250 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 7: thought I was gonna be like very easy. She'd like, yeah, 251 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 7: I come up, like I'll give you a big hug. 252 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 7: Didn't go that way, but I was already like committed, 253 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 7: but I was like, you know what, like I don't 254 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 7: have any questions, Like you're amazing. 255 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 6: I want you to know that, Like I know she 256 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 6: was real. 257 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 7: There's moments we had off camera that people didn't get 258 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 7: a chance to see, but like, I know she was real. 259 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 7: She's being yourself, so like I wanted to tell her 260 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 7: that not like sitting back with the guys, like looking 261 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 7: in the eye. 262 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: But it was a little bit awkward there, but I 263 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 6: think I recovered a little bit. 264 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I agree. 265 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: I agree it was a bold move and we were 266 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: definitely like whoa wa, whoa where's hot Schong going sit 267 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: back down? But I think it was a nice gesture 268 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: and it came from a nice place. And I will 269 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: say when Charity came on our podcast, she did say 270 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: that there was so much more to you guys relationship 271 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: than people saw, which was nice for us to hear 272 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: because I feel like not a lot was shown except 273 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: for like the fun makeouts and the drama between you 274 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 2: guys and you and the guys. 275 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that was like the one thing watching it 276 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 7: back was like I remember, I remember how I felt 277 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 7: in the moments, and I remember what we talked about, 278 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 7: and like some of the deeper conversations that we had 279 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 7: where ultimately were TV show. 280 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 6: You can't show everything. 281 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 7: So like when I made it to New Orleans, like 282 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 7: the outcry for like John B and like everyone there, 283 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 7: and it's like I love John d is like the 284 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 7: best guy in the world. But like I knew that 285 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 7: we had a strong connection. I knew that was great. 286 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 7: I wish people got a chance to see some of 287 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 7: those conversations because I think they're incredibly special and you know, 288 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 7: definitely made a lasting impact on my experience there. But yeah, 289 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 7: I kind of it's one of those things like you 290 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 7: got to get a roll of punches and you just 291 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 7: think about like how you felt in those moments. So 292 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 7: it was a shock to some people that I made 293 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 7: that far. And like at the end, when like I'm 294 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 7: kind of professing my feelings towards her, They're like, how 295 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: could you feel that way? If you if you were 296 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 7: there sitting in some of the conversations we had and 297 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 7: some of the time you spent, you kind of get 298 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 7: understanding why I felt that. 299 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Way When you did that, how did you think it 300 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: was going to go? 301 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 7: Just like when I went up on stage there, I 302 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 7: thought I was gonna go a little differently. 303 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 304 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, So like when I'm when i'm and just to 305 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 7: kind of give you an idea of like where I 306 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 7: was at in my mind, Like the entire time you 307 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 7: go through not trying to base your connections with any 308 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 7: other the guys. You want to know how you're feeling 309 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 7: about Charity and like the relationship you had, so going 310 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 7: into New Orleans, like I felt like so strongly because 311 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 7: she's like great in front of the camera now too, 312 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 7: but like I felt so great about like us and 313 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 7: where we were at. Like what people don't really know 314 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 7: was like I was single for six years before going 315 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 7: on the show, so I didn't have an emotional connection 316 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 7: with anybody, So I feel like when I felt that, 317 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 7: it's like I felt the whole thing where I felt 318 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 7: so connected to her, like I was there for a reason, 319 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 7: Like I leaned into the process, and like this is 320 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 7: where I was supposed to be, so like I'm going 321 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 7: in about to go to hometowns, Like hadn't had a 322 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 7: one to one yet. I was so hopeful for that moment, 323 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 7: Like to get that and to not get it just 324 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 7: just spirals a little bit. So then you get put 325 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 7: on a two on one date and then like, I 326 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 7: don't know what's going on. 327 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 6: I love Tanner. 328 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 7: It wasn't that awkward because we're boys, but it is 329 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 7: a unique situation where you're not only carrying a conversation 330 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 7: with Charity, but you're carrying a conversation with Tanner. So 331 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 7: like we're trying not to step on each other's toes 332 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 7: and we're trying not to we're trying to make the 333 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 7: best of the situation. But then to come back from 334 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 7: that date and then still be in the same spot 335 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 7: I was in it kind of made me spire a 336 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 7: little bit and like I probably should have went about 337 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 7: the conversation with her a little bit differently, Whereas like 338 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 7: I was still willing to like fight because I think 339 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 7: that in the moment, like I felt she was worth 340 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 7: fighting for, and like I really thought that the hometowns 341 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 7: would I don't know, I. 342 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 6: Thought they're any special. 343 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 7: I thought there would be be able for us to 344 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 7: get a chance to make ups in the time we 345 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 7: hadn't had, And I probably should have been a little 346 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 7: bit more respectful of where she was at in the 347 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 7: journey about to go to hometowns and probably understood it 348 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 7: a little bit more from her angle. 349 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 5: At that point. 350 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: You took a shot and it didn't pay off, but 351 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: you would be kicking yourself if you didn't do it. 352 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: So Yeah, I like hearing your perspective on these situations 353 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: because I feel like you've done a few things throughout 354 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: the season that we've been like whoa hot shot, what 355 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: are you doing? And hearing your perspective on them really 356 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: just gives context and makes me like, oh, I totally 357 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: get that, Like I totally understand what he was thinking 358 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: at that moment and why he went about doing that, 359 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Like even you talking about on the Barbie date coming 360 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: in and singing and being like, let's do shots. Like 361 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: hearing you be, Like I left that date on such 362 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: a high I thought we were all still going to 363 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: be there. I'm like, that totally makes sense to me 364 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: now why he did that. So I'm glad we had 365 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: you on today. 366 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, last last question before before you go, what are 367 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: you looking for now in a partner? 368 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question. 369 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 7: I think one of the best parts about this experience 370 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 7: is like you get into a situation where you start 371 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 7: thinking about what you want in life and what you 372 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 7: wanted a partner. And like before I went here, like 373 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 7: I kind of focused on the physical action. It's like 374 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 7: that was first me. It's like, hey, I have to 375 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 7: be like attracted to this person. Like being here, I 376 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 7: started to look about, hey, like what do I want 377 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 7: in a life? 378 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 6: Like he was the. 379 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 7: It's not though, And that's like this opportunity like change 380 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 7: my perspective about it, because like that's probably why I 381 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 7: haven't been able to have a relationships, because I was 382 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 7: thinking about stuff on the outside, when in turn, I 383 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 7: really want to have someone that's kind of compassionate, to 384 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 7: be able to give the love that like my parents 385 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 7: gave me. I want someone that I can laugh with 386 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 7: and have a good time with and like, that's what 387 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 7: I look for. 388 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 6: Now I'm still out there, I'm still looking for it. 389 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 7: But this was really an incredible journey, and I'm glad 390 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 7: I got a chance to sit with you guys and 391 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 7: tell you a little bit more about my side of things, 392 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: because most people have the same reactions that you guys did, 393 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 7: is like, oh this is you know, he's kind of 394 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 7: like a cocky asshole sometimes, but there is a sense 395 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 7: of side to me where like I think people, once 396 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 7: they get a chance to know me, they'll they'll see it. 397 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, I never. 398 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Thought you were a kakay asshole. I actually, I mean honestly, 399 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: I watched it and there was a few moments where 400 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: im like, I think you have a real shot, but 401 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I was wrong, Like it didn't work out. But but Sean, honestly, 402 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. We really appreciate you taking 403 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: the time. 404 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. It was great to have 405 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: you here. 406 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 6: It was great to meet Wait, oh god. 407 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: Tonight, you did amazing. 408 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 8: Thanks you want to say that, I'll stand up there 409 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 8: you give me this. 410 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 411 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: What a gentleman. 412 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: All right, Next up, we have we. 413 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: Got the Bachelor at a spontaneous interview. 414 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 8: Nice, I'm crashing interviews. Who am I follow? 415 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: Sean? What's up? 416 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Charity? 417 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 9: Hello? 418 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 10: How are you guys? 419 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 8: I'm feeling good. It was a good time. 420 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: You did great. What were some highlights for you? 421 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 9: Honestly, I think obviously seeing all of the guys and 422 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 9: just getting ready to like getting the opportunity to hear 423 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 9: the air and talk about everything, meeting the Bache of 424 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 9: the Reds, or seeing like the ogs like Trista, Dez 425 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 9: and Deanna, and then obviously I think I had really 426 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 9: really one difficult conversation tonight, which was with Xavier, but 427 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 9: I felt like it really went well. We got the 428 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 9: closure and clarity. I think that we both needed. It 429 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 9: was difficult but necessary. 430 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, yes, and you have that knitted rose to 431 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: forever remember that conversation. 432 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: I do. 433 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 8: I was like, thank you for this. 434 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you are with somebody now, they're probably 435 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: going to be like, yeah for all that fucking role. 436 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 437 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: Do you have your finales coming up? Anything you want 438 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: to tease? 439 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 9: Oh my god, it's just lots of tears, tears everywhere. 440 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 9: It's gonna be crazy. There's gonna be a plot twist. 441 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 9: I think that a lot of us probably aren't really expecting. 442 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 9: And then again, like I said, it's just like really 443 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 9: just emotional because at that point in the journey, I 444 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 9: think we've already seen it. 445 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 8: I've said it several times in like the. 446 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 9: Previews, just like being in a place where I'm in 447 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 9: love with two people and having to reach a decision. 448 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 9: So that part it's never easy. But yeah, it's gonna be. 449 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 9: It's gonna be an emotional rat for sure. 450 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: As much as it's going to be hard to watch 451 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: the finale and ride that wave. Are you excited for 452 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: the season to be done? How are you feeling about it? 453 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 8: I'm so excited. I mean if I'm giving it away, 454 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 8: I don't care. I'm happy, So I'm ready. 455 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: As well as you're happy, that's all that matters. That 456 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: was the goal of this show was for you to 457 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: be happy, exactly quick quick xavior question. And then I 458 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: have one more question. 459 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: If that. 460 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: Xavier, if he would have had that conversation with you 461 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: on his first one on one, how do you think 462 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: that would have went. If he's still because you know 463 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: when he was like, yes, I I don't want to 464 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: cheat on you. If he would have, if he would 465 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: have ended it then do you think you would have 466 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: kept them around? 467 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 10: H Yeah, I would have known. 468 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 8: And that's just I mean, it's plain and simple. 469 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 9: It's like I work with the information that I get 470 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 9: in those moments and in those conversations. So that's the 471 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 9: tricky part of just being in this position is like 472 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 9: I don't feel like at all times I'm getting everything 473 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 9: that I need, and that's up to me to also 474 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 9: like ask these questions. So I think obviously without even 475 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 9: knowing like that was a part of his past, I 476 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 9: did ask about past relationships, and like that never came up. 477 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 8: Like I asked all the questions about his relationships. 478 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 9: He never thought like, oh, this is something that I 479 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 9: need to share with charity. And I understand that it's 480 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 9: a difficult conversation, but like it was a little I 481 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 9: and I told him I thought it was a little selfish, 482 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 9: like withold that for me up until that point, because 483 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 9: for one, someone else could have been in that position 484 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 9: that I had a connection with. Whether or not that 485 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 9: person was going to be my forever person, it doesn't matter. 486 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 9: It's like you're now wasting my time and you're wasting 487 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 9: a space. But then also it's just why didn't you 488 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 9: share that, and it was the questions that. 489 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 8: Followed up after. 490 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 9: It was never the fact that like, oh, this was 491 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 9: something that a mistake was made in the past. I 492 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 9: told him time and time again, like I commend you 493 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 9: for like opening up about this, but like it's everything 494 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 9: that came after, like the follow up questions that I 495 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 9: had for him, that he just continued to like dig 496 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 9: a deeper hole. 497 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that that all that all makes sense. 498 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 10: It checks out. 499 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 8: Joe approves of that answer. 500 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 10: I agree. 501 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: I agree that the other one was I think his 502 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: name the cowboy Caleb Caleb, right, But you're like. 503 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 8: Oh my god, Joe was cracked. 504 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: What was he What was he thinking? He's like, I'm 505 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: the best, I was the best. 506 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, like it was him. 507 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 9: I guess he wanted to get like the praise from me, 508 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 9: like m VP of all the group dates. I mean, yes, 509 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 9: I think everyone did great in group dates, but like 510 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 9: obviously for each group date, like there's a group date 511 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 9: Rose we know, But then the only group dates that 512 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 9: he was on was the Dodgeball and then I think 513 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 9: the ones he's really referring to his dodgeball and then 514 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 9: the Barbie group Day. But it's like I don't know 515 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 9: what he really expected. My answer to me, I was like, yes, 516 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 9: it was great. The performance was fantastic, But I mean, like, 517 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 9: do you want a trophy for it? 518 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: So I'm not handing it roses based on Dodge rows vocal. 519 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 9: I was like, I'm sorry, like I'm looking also for 520 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 9: connection and just like other things. 521 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: But all right, last question and then we'll let you go. 522 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: If you are with somebody, m what's the first thing 523 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: you guys are going to do in public? 524 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, so if I am engaged and happily happy, I 525 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 9: would love to go to. 526 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: Perhaps maybe a concert. 527 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 9: I love music, so I think that's something I'll check 528 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 9: off my list right away. 529 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: Okay, biggest surprise of the night to end. 530 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 8: It off, Yeah, biggest surprise at the night. 531 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 9: I mean I wasn't expecting to get that rose from Savior, 532 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 9: So that was like, I was like, what's happening. He's like, 533 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 9: I gotta I gotta go get something. I was like, please, 534 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 9: I don't want any surprises. So yes, it was a 535 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 9: surprise to me. 536 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 8: So yes, they'll. 537 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: Hand in it. 538 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 8: I appreciate it. 539 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, a surprising gesture all around for sure. 540 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: Just a little too late, little sorry about that buddy. 541 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: Maybe give to Caleb if he still wants a rose. 542 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 8: No, what, that's a splendid idea. Are they still here? 543 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: All right? 544 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Charity, thank you again for coming on. And I'm gonna 545 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: take a guess that you will probably be on again, so. 546 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 8: I think so, So I will bet it with you 547 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 8: guys soon. 548 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: All right, all right, Dodri here, Bye, Adrian? How are you? 549 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: I Will? How about you? 550 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. How how do you 551 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: feel tonight went for you? In particular? 552 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: I feel like it went Will. 553 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 11: I feel like it was great to see the guys. 554 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 11: It was great to see Charity again. 555 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: I feel like it went. Will had a good time. 556 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: Good do you? Did you feel that you had a 557 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: connection at all with Charity while you were on the show. 558 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 3: We were building a connection. 559 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 11: I know it didn't show much, but we were building 560 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 11: a connection. 561 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: We had a great time. But I do feel like. 562 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 11: My actions probably did distract that from getting a little stronger, 563 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 11: especially saying that she kind of already had a connection 564 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 11: with Brada so stronger. I just feel like if I 565 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 11: would have done it differently, I probably would have waited, 566 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 11: if at all, to say anything about anything else that 567 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 11: was going on. 568 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 10: But as far as me and her, I feel like 569 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 10: the time we had was great. 570 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 11: We talked about my daughter, you know, she embraced it 571 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 11: and you know, said she wanted to lead into the 572 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 11: process of that, you know, and that was great. So 573 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 11: we were building a great foundation, I think, based on 574 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 11: vulnerability and honesty. 575 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, so that is that one thing you do 576 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: regret would be bringing up Brandon at all to charity, 577 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: you feel like that. 578 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 11: Just I don't regret it. I don't regret it because 579 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 11: like my intentions were pure. I wasn't really saying anything wrong. 580 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 11: That was just the truth of the matter, which everyone 581 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 11: got to see later, which no one is circling back 582 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 11: saying Adrian was trying to save everybody the drama, you know, 583 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 11: Like I just was the first one to see it, 584 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 11: and it was just pretty much like, hey, look, I 585 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 11: know that you're focused on trying to find the right one, 586 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 11: but it's also great to weed out the wrong ones 587 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 11: right away, you know. So I was just basically letting 588 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 11: her know what my intentions were while I was here, 589 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 11: and also what I also saw and what was going 590 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 11: on and people that were doubting the process and not 591 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 11: really into it. Shouldn't be here. So that's what it 592 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 11: was about. But if I was to do it again, 593 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 11: I probably would have done. 594 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 10: It, but just differently. But I definitely still been honest. 595 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 10: I still would have been vulnerable with her and let 596 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 10: her know why I'm here. 597 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 11: So yeah, I don't regret anything. If she sent me home, 598 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 11: it wasn't because of that. It was just because we 599 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 11: didn't have a strong enough connection. So whether that was 600 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 11: because of the information or not, I think it would 601 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 11: have been the same as though. 602 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, I respect that. 603 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: So tonight we did have a big surprise as viewers 604 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: with the Peter drama, who I believe went home night 605 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: one read a lot of guys the wrong way, and 606 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: then we kind of saw that all unfold in front 607 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: of our eyes. Can you kind of shed a little 608 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: more light on what that situation was, maybe why he 609 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: upset everyone and how that led to the Instagram caption. 610 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 11: Yeah, so people had a bad, a bad interaction with Peter. 611 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 11: I did not personally, but he's cool, Like I didn't 612 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 11: talk too much, but everyone was saying that he was 613 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 11: really in a way that you know, he was treating everybody, 614 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 11: and so everyone was like, yeah, like forget that guy, 615 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 11: you know, so like that was just kind of like 616 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 11: the running joke of like, you know, forget Peter, you know, 617 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 11: like that's just what it was. And a couple of 618 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 11: the guys did you know, the Instagram thing or whatever, 619 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 11: which I think they shouldn't have, but it is what 620 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 11: it is. It was all fun and games, and I 621 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 11: just don't understand that if the guys did take responsibility 622 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 11: and apologize for why, that was the end of it. 623 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 11: You know, like I get it, you can feel the 624 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 11: way you feel, but you know, just go back and 625 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 11: talk to the guys and say, hey, I appreciate it, 626 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 11: but it really made me feel a way or whatever 627 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 11: the case may be. But don't say hey, I appreciate 628 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 11: and accept your apology and then still be upset about it. 629 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 2: So he so there was a conversation where an apology 630 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: was given prior to the mental yes, that's right, and 631 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: then he came back. So do you think the guys 632 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: were surprised that he was there? Bringing it got rehashing 633 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: all of this. 634 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 11: Yeah, we were all surprised that he was leaping here 635 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 11: because he went home night one like why, like what's 636 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 11: going on? Why are you here? But obviously, you know, 637 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 11: that was you know why So. 638 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: You know I went home night one Adrian. 639 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: Did you Yeah? 640 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I didn't get you know, I didn't 641 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: get any uh fucking rustry store Joees. 642 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: No you didn't. You got lucky. 643 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I got lucky. 644 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: Were you room? Did you? Did you the wrong way? 645 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: No? But I do sympathize with him because that night 646 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: is so hectic, and if you are somebody that has 647 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: anxiety and does get, you know, extremely nervous, you could 648 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: come off stand offish when in reality, maybe you're just 649 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: in your own head or you're just very nervous. So 650 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: I could see the guys maybe taking his attitude is 651 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: like this guy thinks he's better, but maybe in reality 652 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: he was just maybe he's an intro. 653 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 11: I think it was what he was saying though, Like 654 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 11: Caleb said that he literally he went to shake his hand, 655 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 11: He literally looked him in his eyes and walked away. 656 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 11: He walked up until Dotton, which is the tallest guy 657 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 11: in the house, or I'll dunk on you. 658 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: It was just crazy, like no one's dunking on dot. 659 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: Why would you say that? Like what is happening? Yeah, 660 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 661 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 11: I'm like, why would you say that, so I think 662 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 11: it was just like he was maybe just trying. 663 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: To soil it a little bit exactly. 664 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: So I think that's what it was. 665 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 11: But to your point, I don't feel like he deserved, 666 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 11: you know, to be you know, Peter or anything like that. 667 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 10: I definitely feel like he did not deserve that. 668 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, if the people 669 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 11: who did it wanted to apologize and step in front 670 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 11: of it, you know, I think that's commendable. But he 671 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 11: does have the right to feel, you know, how he 672 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 11: feels about it totally. 673 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: It was definitely one of the most surprising moments of 674 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: the night for us. Was there anything else tonight that 675 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: really shocked you in a good way or a bad way? 676 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: Like a standout moment? 677 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: Any think that's shocked. 678 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 11: Only thing that shocked me was the end when I 679 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 11: got a chance to meet the gold backslor. 680 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys all seemed super excited to be Gary, 681 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: as you should be. 682 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 11: That was crazy. But it was just kind of crazy 683 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 11: because you know, we're all in this position, you know, 684 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 11: and he's the Golden Bachelor. Just to see that, it's 685 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 11: like almost like he's like our. 686 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 12: Aspirational Yeah, you know, he did forty three years as 687 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 12: Mary like, it's like, wow, you've really done it, like 688 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 12: and granted, like it's not even over yet for him, 689 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 12: you know, and it's all aspired to have something that 690 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 12: last that long. 691 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 11: And we just got out of a situation where we 692 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 11: were trying to make something work just for forty three days. 693 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 11: You know, he made something work for forty three years. 694 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 11: It's crazy, and it's like, you know, he makes you, 695 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 11: you know, especially for me that you know, I didn't 696 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 11: make it through this process. 697 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 3: It's like, just don't give up on love. 698 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 11: Just keep going and you know true love is out 699 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 11: there and also our example of that right that. 700 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: You know, so far, so far, so good. We're two 701 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: years in, you know, we've got forty more to go 702 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: to catch up to. 703 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Gary, but we're married. What are you What are you 704 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: doing now? Are you dating? Are you actively dating? What's 705 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: up with your love life? 706 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: I've been kind of like just focused on like just. 707 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: Like my career and my daughter. 708 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: Have a daughter. 709 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 11: Yeah, I've been trying to get into the dating game 710 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 11: and trying to date right now. 711 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 712 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: Nice and if that sometimes they do have you you 713 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: do seem like one of the guys that has watched 714 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: the show a little bit before you went on, you 715 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: have you had an idea of what it was, because 716 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: there's so many guys that come on this podcast. 717 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: I never watched the show. 718 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: Why did you go on it? 719 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: Wait, let's go for how'd you watch a little bit 720 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: of the show before you went on? You did not, Joe, 721 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: You just made an assumption and then you. 722 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Talk shiteez jeez. 723 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, wait, but then that will lead Usten to 724 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: a different question. Do you feel like you wish you 725 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: had because we've been discussing a lot this Jesuid question 726 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: about if it's better to go on blind or not. 727 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 11: No, I don't think it's I think you should watch it, 728 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 11: because if I would have watched it, I would have 729 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 11: went about things a little differently. 730 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: I went into it. 731 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 11: It's like a normal relationship, like, Oh, I'm just going 732 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 11: to try to talk and just But I don't think 733 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 11: that's the answer all the time. I feel like if 734 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 11: I would have watched it, I would have had a 735 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 11: little bit like, oh, okay, this is how this works, 736 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 11: you know, because I was watching too saying like what 737 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 11: a lot of people were saying about my actions and everything, 738 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 11: like no, he doesn't watch the show. 739 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: It's like, no, I. 740 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 11: Never watched the show. I don't know. Don't he know 741 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 11: that's the best I'm like, no, I don't you know, 742 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 11: So you know, I do wish I probably would have 743 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 11: watched the show for sure. 744 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: I agree. 745 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought you did, but you 746 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: didn't and hopefully not same you do, Adrian. Thank you 747 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: so much. We appreciate you taking the time and it 748 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: was fun watching you tonight. 749 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it was great meeting you were rushing you all 750 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: the best. Thanks for coming on you guys. 751 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: Have a great night, you too. 752 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, please welcome Savior. He probably had the most 753 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: serious conversation tonight. How you feeling. 754 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. 755 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 13: I'm glad to have been able to bring this to 756 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 13: a close so that I can kind of move on 757 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 13: from this and be able to truly grow, even more 758 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 13: so that I've been growing in the last couple of months. 759 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. I mean closure is definitely important, and yeah, 760 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean we're not looking to to, you know, put 761 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: you through the ringer right now, but we do have 762 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: to ask a few questions. One of the things I 763 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: really wanted to ask when you did have that first 764 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: one on one with Charity. Is there a part of 765 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: you now that wishes maybe you would have brought this 766 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: up then? 767 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 13: Uh, I wouldn't say. I just wasn't ready to have 768 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 13: that conversation. Yeah, in the moment, because you know, you 769 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 13: guys all know how this kind of like happens when 770 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 13: you get one on one. There's things moving around, and 771 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 13: so it was kind of like really tough for me 772 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 13: to like ring that up and open up in that 773 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 13: way because I kind of wasn't ready to do that. 774 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. When when you did decide 775 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to go on the show, was that something that you 776 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: knew that you would eventually have to bring up or 777 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: were you not even looking that far into what was 778 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: about time? 779 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 13: I didn't even know that. It was truly like an ish. 780 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 13: I had not admit that to anybody before, you know, So, 781 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 13: like when she was asking me questions, I was just 782 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 13: like I didn't expect those questions to kind of like, 783 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 13: you know, I didn't expect those questions and I didn't 784 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 13: prepare for those questions. I think the answers I gave 785 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 13: were not great answers. They actually were answers that you know, 786 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 13: don't reflect who I am as a man and like, 787 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 13: you know, don't really reflect what I want to be 788 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 13: in the future for my future wife. So yeah, it 789 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 13: was just kind of like a very humbling and like 790 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,479 Speaker 13: learning moment, I guess in that, but I just took 791 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 13: it so seriously because I truly believe that, you know, 792 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 13: she could be my forever person. 793 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: I wanted us to have those difficult. 794 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 13: Discussions so that, you know, we could make the right 795 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 13: decisions for both. 796 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: Of us going through this season. I don't know if 797 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 2: you knew her feelings about this while you were there, 798 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: but watching back, you can obviously see she had a 799 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: lot of back and forth with Exavier ready, you know, 800 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: this reminding her of her ex boyfriend all of these things, 801 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: and we kind of saw the struggle of like is 802 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 2: he ready? Is he not ready? Like even as the audience, 803 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: it was kind of like is he ready? Is he 804 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: not ready? Looking back, do you feel confident that no, 805 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: I was ready or do you at all question if 806 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: you were ready? 807 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: So in my heart, like there was no doubt. I 808 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: was like I can get on me. 809 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 13: But my head, having the scientific brain that I do, 810 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 13: I was just like, this is crazy, like being in 811 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 13: this position and my feeling that sort of way, like 812 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 13: I cannot tell you, I've never had that sort of 813 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 13: dichotomy between my heart and my head and my life before, 814 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 13: so it was like really confusing for me. I you know, 815 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 13: I want to meet my forever person, I want to 816 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 13: be married, and I want to do that, and truly 817 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 13: I think I am ready for that commitment. But I 818 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 13: think it was just the time frame in my environment. 819 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 13: It was just a lot going on. 820 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: Honest, I can really sympathize with that, that internal struggle 821 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: of like I love this person, but oh my god, 822 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: what are we about to do? So would you kind 823 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 2: of I don't want to. 824 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 13: Put she's not settling for anything less than engagement, So 825 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 13: you're not going to pull out as your girlfriend. 826 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're not leaving with a girlfriend. You're leaving 827 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: with or you're leaving with nothing. 828 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: And probably most of your dating life you've always you know, 829 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: just thought logically, like we're we're very logic people. So 830 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: so the thought of you know, I'm about to get 831 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: engaged and potentially marry this person is it's heavy for sure. 832 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 13: All the variables that in, like you know, the previous 833 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 13: history of like sometimes it doesn't work out, Like there 834 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 13: was that fear there too, you know, and I told 835 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 13: her like, look, get engaged once and I just want 836 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 13: to make sure it's right. 837 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 14: And yeah, yeah, looking back on that conversation and watching 838 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 14: it back, is there anything specifically that you're like, I 839 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 14: wish I'd done that differently or said that differently. 840 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 13: Yeah, I wish I would have been able to deliver, 841 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 13: like and that like made more sense about how I 842 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 13: felt instead of like just kind of like answering from 843 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 13: my head and just like not truly internalizing the question. 844 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 13: But like, you know, everything happens for a reason, and 845 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 13: it just like wasn't our time. 846 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then the I mean, the past is 847 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: the past, and get you got to move on and 848 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: as long as you learn from it, I mean, that's 849 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: that's all you could really ask for. Right, do you 850 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: feel like now you are you are ready, like you're 851 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: ready to take that step with someone? 852 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 13: I think, uh, right now I have to heal and 853 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 13: plus I still have that fair things for these persons, 854 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 13: So like I'm really truly just trying to. 855 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: Feel in a way that is like a. 856 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 13: Good and right and I'll know when that moment is 857 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 13: like when my dad always told me, like you know, 858 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 13: when you know, well he told me at the at 859 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 13: the hometown you know when you know, and so yeah, 860 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 13: I think I'm going to disress that advice. 861 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: Yes, can't confirm that is true. You do when you 862 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: know you know, But I will say, did you come 863 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: into tonight with any goals or things that were really 864 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: important to you? And do you feel like you accomplish 865 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: those things? 866 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 867 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 13: I think my goal was just to kind of get 868 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 13: some closure on it, to make sure that she knew 869 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 13: I wasn't like there for the wrong reasons and I 870 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 13: like genuinely like had these feelings for her and I 871 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 13: wasn't trying to. 872 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: Be manipulated in any way. 873 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 13: I you know, wanted to make sure that she knew that, 874 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 13: and that just to kind of bring this all to ahead, 875 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 13: because yeah, I've been ruminating like for months now, but 876 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 13: I think we're able to clear that up and you know, 877 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 13: everything's cool now nice? 878 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 3: All right? 879 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, would you I don't obviously, don't spoil anything because 880 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: we don't know if you go to Paradise or not, 881 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: but would you consider going on another dating show? 882 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 13: I have to do my research on it, because like, 883 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 13: IM not gonna lie like some of the things I 884 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 13: was like, wait, what is happening right now? 885 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: I know it? Like, yeah, that environment was definitely tough. 886 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 13: I would definitely do a lot more research about the 887 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 13: what I'm getting into. 888 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 2: Did you watch the show at all before you went 889 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: on it? 890 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: I watched it up until a certain point. 891 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 13: I didn't know that, I'll be honest, Like, I didn't 892 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 13: know Fantasy Suit was the deadline for like the engagement. 893 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 3: I like, I'm like, wait, I thought you know. 894 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: A few more weeks. 895 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 8: What's happening? 896 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 15: Hell? 897 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think all right. 898 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: Xavier, thank you so much for coming on. 899 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 2: We really appreciate Braidon's crashing this interview right now, so 900 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 2: we're gonna have. 901 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 5: To wrap up. 902 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: It is for our listeners. You know, it's a mess 903 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: right now. It's the tell all. They're all happy they 904 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: just got done with their season, so it's a little chaotic. Xavier, 905 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much. We appreciate you and wishing you 906 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: the best. Thanks. 907 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joking me. 908 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: I have a good one, Braiden. Braiden, welcome. It's nice 909 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: to have you back. One thing I do not want 910 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: to talk about are your earrings that everyone talks about. 911 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: It's your style. It's a thing you like it good 912 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: for you. We know you we earrings. 913 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 5: Man, you're looking good. 914 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Collored. 915 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: What's up. How's it going. 916 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: It's going good man, It's it's nice to you. 917 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 3: Guys. 918 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 5: Are heard you guys. You guys finally tied the knot, 919 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 5: right or is that coming up soon? 920 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: We did tie the knot this past October, but we're 921 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: having the ceremony in September. 922 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 15: Yeah, but no, everything's been good out here. 923 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 3: Man. 924 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 5: It's a lot tonight, but it was. It was fun. 925 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 2: Were you prepared going in of like how much it 926 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: was going to be. 927 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 5: I feel like I talked a lot. 928 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: I just. 929 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you do. 930 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: But there was a lot to talk about surrounding you 931 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 2: in your name. 932 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you are like on the show, you 933 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: are one of the main, the main Even when you 934 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: were gone, people were still talking about you, which honestly, 935 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's not the worst thing in 936 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: the world. 937 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 5: No, it's not. I mean it was. It was definitely 938 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 5: cool to be able to like have. 939 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 15: Like, you know, a time, to be able to explain 940 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 15: myself a little bit and kind of let people know 941 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 15: like where I was coming from. I hope I got 942 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,479 Speaker 15: that across I'm not sure, but I mean, we'll see, 943 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 15: We'll see what people say. 944 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I I've I've been one to say 945 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: that I like you. I think I think you are yourself. 946 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I think you're you're you're authentic, so you're very fun 947 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: to watch. I did. I never really agree with hat Sean, 948 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: but one thing hat Sean said was and I did 949 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: vocalize this a little on the podcast, where I do 950 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of wish you just lean maybe leaned in a 951 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: little bit like a look, because it did seem like 952 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 1: towards the end, you were just so like I'm done, 953 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no, Do you have any regrets 954 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: about that or are you. 955 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 15: Just It's definitely sometime I'm apologetic about. Like I think though, 956 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 15: if I had to say sorry for anything in the 957 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 15: whole experience is the fact that I couldn't just get 958 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 15: myself to just lean in more. Yeah, when I even 959 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 15: watching the episodes back and seeing how much Journey did 960 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 15: like me and like, you know, having that like getting 961 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 15: to see your itms and the way she talks about 962 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 15: me and like all that stuff, it was just I 963 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 15: don't know, it was definitely it was hard because like 964 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 15: when you're in the moment. 965 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 6: You don't see that, you don't get to hear that, 966 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, you don't you know. 967 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 15: And so I definitely I felt like sometimes the heat 968 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 15: that I might have been getting from the guys, I 969 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 15: felt like sometimes like maybe I thought I was getting 970 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 15: it from her. And so it's kind of just like 971 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 15: those those lands were crossing. It was hard for me 972 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 15: to really just dive into the experience when that I 973 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 15: was happening. 974 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: You know, how was it seeing Charity and tonight and 975 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: having a conversation with her. 976 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 5: It was cool, it was I don't know. 977 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 15: I definitely I definitely sense a little like frustration with 978 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 15: me still to be honest, which is which is tough, 979 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 15: but I mean it's I mean, I don't blame her, 980 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 15: like I understand like I was a frustrating person for her, 981 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 15: and it sucks to say it sucks to know that 982 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 15: I'm a I was a frustrating person for her journey, 983 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 15: but I'm grateful for the fact that I got to 984 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 15: have that connection with her. It was cool because it 985 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 15: like it really just it got me back to this 986 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 15: place when I was young, like similar to where I 987 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 15: was when I was younger, where it's like I wanted 988 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 15: to date to get married, and so it's like it 989 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 15: definitely has kind of changed my focus since leaving where 990 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 15: it's like, you know, I really that's something I really want. 991 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 992 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 15: So it was kind of cool to have that kind 993 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 15: of like reawakening, I would say, And I'm really grateful. 994 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 3: To her for for that and for getting. 995 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 15: Me that place, and so I don't know, I'm excited 996 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 15: for the future whatever that holds. 997 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 16: But yeah, yeah, we're gonna, uh, we're gonna talk about that, 998 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 16: but I do want to just touch out real quick, 999 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 16: you you know, asking Charity about the TikTok, the clown whatever, 1000 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 16: her response to that, are you are you happy with that? 1001 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 5: I mean, like she said, it was just a joke. 1002 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I know, there's always truth. 1003 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 3: In jest, you know what I mean. 1004 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 5: That's always that, like, there's always that saying. 1005 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 15: And I think that there was a little bit more 1006 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 15: truth to her that maybe like that she felt about 1007 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 15: that that she didn't really dive into. I don't blame 1008 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 15: her for not willing to dive into it, but there 1009 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 15: was definitely something when I saw it. 1010 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 5: Definitely, it was like it was you know, I definitely 1011 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 5: you know, full. 1012 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 15: Me out a little bit, because again, I felt like 1013 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 15: when I was with her, every interaction. 1014 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 5: I had with her was very intentional, verry Like I was. 1015 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 15: Genuinely like putting myself out there trying to be vulnerable 1016 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 15: to her about stuff, and so I never intended to 1017 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 15: come off as a clown to her. 1018 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 5: I know that. 1019 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 15: You know, maybe when I was around the guys, I 1020 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 15: joked around a lot, and that's. 1021 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 5: Not a good look or something. 1022 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 15: But it's hard because again, like I'm the type of 1023 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 15: person where I'm gonna enjoy the experience whenever. 1024 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm the end, you know, Yeah, yeah. 1025 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 15: I definitely, I don't know I got what I got. 1026 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 15: You know, I can't throw fit. You can't throw fit. 1027 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: You gotta move on, Yeah, you gotta move on. 1028 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: You came, you asked, you got an answer, and that's 1029 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: as much as you're gonna get at the mental heal. 1030 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 8: So time to move forward, exactly. 1031 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 1: So how uh so we see the trailer for Paradise, Yep, 1032 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: you're there, You are there? 1033 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 3: Now? 1034 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 1: Did you have any I guess did you think about 1035 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: it at all? Do you have any doubts going into Paradise? 1036 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean when I originally left the show, I was. 1037 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 15: I left in a very heated environment, and I told them, Mike, 1038 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 15: I was like, I'm never coming back. Don't call me, 1039 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 15: don't reach out to me, Like, you guys are not 1040 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 15: going to get anything from me. 1041 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: They've never heard that before. 1042 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 5: I was. I was so heated when I left. 1043 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 15: I was like, don't even call me, and like and 1044 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 15: then it was like I think it was like three 1045 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 15: or it was like three weeks, three or four weeks, 1046 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 15: and they finally they like reached out to me. They 1047 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 15: gave me some cool and off period, which is nice. 1048 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 15: And then when they reached out to me, I just 1049 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 15: told him. I was like, yeah, like, you know, let 1050 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 15: me talk to my family about it. Let me you know, 1051 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 15: I want to I don't want to just rush into 1052 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 15: something else, like I don't know if I can handle this, 1053 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 15: and like it to me entirely different from the Bachelorette. 1054 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 15: You know, it'll be a totally new, you know, new environment, 1055 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 15: not the same, you know, I think it'll be much 1056 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 15: more your speed. And so I thought about it, and 1057 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 15: it's definitely something I was like, Okay, like you know, I. 1058 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 5: Did it once, maybe maybe. 1059 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 15: This time will be it, you know, so well, left 1060 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 15: to see. 1061 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: Can you before we let you go. Can you tease 1062 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 2: anything for Paradise outside of the teaser, the teaser that 1063 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: we saw with you and Katz? 1064 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 5: Oh oh see, let's see. I definitely sorry. 1065 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 15: I'm looking at my I'm looking at the publicis making 1066 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 15: sure I'm not saying anything bad. 1067 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 1068 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 5: But let's just say. 1069 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: You need one of those. You need a poloicist fully. 1070 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 8: Around full time. 1071 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 15: I know, dude would save me so much, so much, 1072 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 15: so much struggle. But I would say I opened myself 1073 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 15: up and allowed myself. I allowed for the possibility of 1074 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 15: being hurt. 1075 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 2: That's good, great, that's how you gotta do it. 1076 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: Also, your best, your best line of the night, not 1077 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: even line, but just call out was the fact that 1078 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: there was no fucking driver in that. 1079 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 3: I was so happy. 1080 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 2: It was hysterical when you said that because I had 1081 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 2: no idea. 1082 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 5: I for sure. 1083 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: But when he kept saying pushed the gas man, pushed 1084 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: the gas I was like, oh God, I. 1085 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 3: Don't know who he was talking to. Man. 1086 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like, he just didn't want to smoke, dude. 1087 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 5: I was ready. That's not what I mean. 1088 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 15: I have again, I have no I have no issues 1089 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 15: with Aaron anymore. I mean again like bygones are bygones. 1090 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 15: But yeah, I always always gonna be good for a 1091 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 15: good scrap. You know, I'm always up. I wouldn't say no. 1092 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he is also always up for it. 1093 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 2: So it's probably good that on good terms me. 1094 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 5: And TV let's ent it up. 1095 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 3: The publicist is just like Jesus. 1096 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 10: He just doesn't stop. All right. 1097 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 5: You'll be the ref man, You'll be the ref of 1098 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 5: the fight, dude, and then we will fight. 1099 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 3: No fight, no fight. 1100 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 5: Violence isn't the answer. 1101 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: Violence is not the answer, all right, Braden, thank you 1102 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: h we uh we love having you on this podcast. 1103 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna say it that you're probably gonna 1104 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: be back on this podcast at some point. 1105 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure we will see you again and have a 1106 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: good night, all. 1107 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: Right, Serena, I'm gonna say it. I think we are 1108 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: done because I'm looking at an empty screen and we 1109 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: don't have any more guests. So everyone, that was an episode. 1110 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in to our live show. 1111 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 2: And don't forget. New episode of The Bachelor airs on 1112 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 2: Monday at eight seven Central on ABC and then streams 1113 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 2: the next day in Hulu. This is the finale of 1114 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 2: the season. Charity's journey is coming to an end, so 1115 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: you don't want to miss it. 1116 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: Yes, and make sure to tune in every week we 1117 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: have new episodes and next week we have some really 1118 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: special things coming out. You are not gonna want to 1119 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 1: miss it, so stay tuned. We've got all kinds of 1120 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: exclusive interviews coming, and don't forget hit that subscribe button 1121 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 1: and thank. 1122 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 2: You to all of our amazing guests. You keep on today. 1123 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: This was a really fun episode for Joe and I 1124 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: to record. Be sure to tune in again next week. 1125 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 2: We will see you guys next time. 1126 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 3: Bye bye,