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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camila Luttington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Call It What It Day.

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Speaker 1: So as you call it, I'm so excited today, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I got a little extra pep in my step?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to? Should we just die right in

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Speaker 2: and tell us why you're excited?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's two words that make me feel excited.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's four Camilla Luddington. Yeah, Gina Davis, Kamila Luddington,

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Speaker 1: Gina Davis.

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Speaker 3: I mean those two, those two I can see a

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Speaker 3: starring in movie together, those two names together.

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Speaker 1: Wow. I just love that. I tried to make it

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Speaker 1: six and put myself in there and you were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: totally running away with the movie that Gina Davis and

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Speaker 1: I are starring in.

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Speaker 3: They I feel like, that's a that's a that's a headliner,

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a new Marvel blockbuster.

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Speaker 1: Move over Deadpool and Wolverine.

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Speaker 3: Gena Davis, for anyone listening who doesn't know, starred on

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Speaker 3: Gray's Anatomy with us, and she worked very closely with you,

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Speaker 3: Miss Arizona Robbins, and it was so incredible and exciting,

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Speaker 3: and it was like, I mean we're talking movie.

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Speaker 2: Star on set, movie star, movie star magic.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: And I gotta say, like we on Grey's Anatomy, we

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Speaker 1: are so lucky because there really are. It's an abundance

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Speaker 1: of guest stars. I mean it's like no joke, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like the people that come and play as you know,

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Speaker 1: guest stars are just like unparalleled. And I remember that

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Speaker 1: there was like Denzel Washington. I remember hearing the Coming

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I did that Washington. I

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Speaker 1: had no scenes with him, none.

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Speaker 2: I was even in that episode. They were like, who

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Speaker 2: should we write in?

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Speaker 3: That's like amazing and they said take Joe out instantly Arizona.

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Speaker 3: You know, I have a funny Denzel story though. And

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Speaker 3: Jesse Williams can attest to this because he was stood.

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Speaker 2: Right next to me and he made so much fun

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Speaker 2: of me.

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Speaker 3: I went in to say hi, and I was so nervous.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, his you know it's Denzel

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Speaker 3: that I couldn't say my name right, so I was

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Speaker 3: like his head hair and that it did. It literally

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Speaker 3: didn't even sound remotely like Camilla. And then and Jesse

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Speaker 3: Williams just happened to be standing right then.

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Speaker 4: He was like what was that?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I'm not even in the episode.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's his memory of me. Yeah, yeah, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Well I remember seeing him because he also no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: he directed it. He wasn't guest starring. He was direct directing.

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Speaker 2: He was direct. That's what I'm saying. It was like

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Speaker 2: take me out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I take you out. I would it, but like

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Speaker 1: I was only in it for a second, Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that was justify the fact that they paid

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Speaker 1: me for that episode. Is really what happened?

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Speaker 2: You just walked by you.

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Speaker 1: I was in an elevator, I walked out of it,

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Speaker 1: and I walked into another elevator.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah. I had the same feeling with Gina though.

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Speaker 1: So that's my point is that when they said Gina

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Speaker 1: was coming, I was like, WHOA, whose storyline is she?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you were not walking from an elevator to

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Speaker 3: an elevator for that storyline.

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Speaker 1: No, I want the Geena Davis lottery. You did I

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Speaker 1: and not only did I get to work with her,

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Speaker 1: she and I were in lockstep.

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Speaker 2: I know I was jealous of that lockstep. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: I had some scenes with her though, but I just

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Speaker 3: it's you can't it's when you meet people like that,

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Speaker 3: I find it hard to actually comprehend that that's the

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Speaker 3: person there in real life. I'm not going to make

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Speaker 3: her feel awkward on the pod, but I was definitely

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Speaker 3: fangirling to an excessive amount.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, which you know, yeah, makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be the odd one out on this

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Speaker 3: pod because you guys really bonded so well on the show,

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Speaker 3: and then after she left the show, you were you

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Speaker 3: were buddies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We were buddies. And when she when

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Speaker 1: I ended up leaving the show, storyline wise, she came back.

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Speaker 5: She was the one that came back. She yeah, to

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Speaker 5: take me off to New York. Yeah, she threw her

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Speaker 5: lass out and dragged you off. No, I know, I'm excited, Higina.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love your faith.

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Speaker 2: We've been fangirling before you came.

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Speaker 4: On, Gina.

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Speaker 1: That's great, yay, Yeah, she likes she likes that kind

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Speaker 3: Well, because I haven't said and I was saying, I

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Speaker 3: haven't seen you or spoken to you since Gray's Anatomy,

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Speaker 3: and then I know that you and Jessica have since

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Speaker 3: become such good friends, and you guys have been texting

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Speaker 3: back and forth. And she even let me in on

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Speaker 3: a little secret that you when you're texting her and

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Speaker 3: you have like all these different nicknames for her.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I actually, I actually I had to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at our text chain because I was like, there's

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Speaker 1: so many of them I don't even remember what they are,

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Speaker 1: and there were upwards of ten. And I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm going to pick out which my favorite ones were.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think everyone i'll want to hear.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So amongst my favorites were Peach fuzz, My Flaky

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Speaker 1: Little Croissant, My Delicious Little Candied yam, My Little Caramel

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Speaker 1: streussl Petunia Darling Caramel Cookie Waffle, and the last, which

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Speaker 1: would be probably the truest in the in the story

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Speaker 1: of our relationship, which would be why That's.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that would fit, and I agree that is the

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Speaker 3: most fitting of all of them. I love how they're

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Speaker 3: food related, though, well.

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Speaker 6: A lot of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm down because I want to Yeah, well, not.

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Speaker 1: Like you, not as much as you like to eat

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Speaker 1: those pancakes in the morning. On Grey's anatomy.

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Speaker 6: Oh do you have my pancakes or my friends Jones?

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Speaker 1: And you know what, you and Camila share something in common,

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Speaker 1: which is that you wear tragic cozy pants and weird

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Speaker 1: T shirts into the hair and makeup trailers. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you wear like fuzzy pants and weird T shirts. I

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Speaker 1: the coziest things. I don't need to look chic before

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Speaker 1: going into the I am really the worst dress though,

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: There's certain tops that I only wear for hair and makeup.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, for some reason, but for like years,

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Speaker 4: twenty years, I have the same weird T shirts that

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Speaker 4: hair and makeup, right, it has to be well.

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Speaker 1: I remember more than anything that you came in looking

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Speaker 1: beautiful and you left looking beautiful. And that's all I remember,

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Speaker 1: because you are truly one of my favorite people and

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Speaker 1: beautiful from the inside out. You you no really your

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Speaker 4: I'm missing so much. We had so much fun, next

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Speaker 4: level next level fun. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We would super super super laugh a lot. And I

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Speaker 1: obviously I have the shortcut to a lot of I mean,

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Speaker 1: I have like some of my favorite stories about working

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Speaker 1: it's you know, eleven o'clock at night and they call

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Speaker 1: for that second stack and I'm like, and You're like,

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Speaker 1: but what is it anything? You're like, but what is it?

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Speaker 3: Second snacker should tell our listeners. Second snack means that

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Speaker 3: you for sure and for like midnight possible filming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the most endearing stories that you told me,

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Speaker 1: Gina was and and we had similar beginnings, and that

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Speaker 1: we both started in New York. I've obviously come back

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Speaker 1: And I would love for you to recall when you

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Speaker 1: were cast in TUTSI.

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Speaker 4: So wild.

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Speaker 1: What did you I remember you telling me a story

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Speaker 1: about being hired, and uh, I'm curious. Did you show

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Speaker 4: Well? I never asked anybody any questions, uh, because I

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Speaker 4: So I went every single day at six whatever. I

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Speaker 4: I did. I didn't see a chair with my name

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Speaker 4: my chair. I came on it and next to Sydney Pollock. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I would put it right.

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Speaker 4: Next to him all day, every day, and he never

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Speaker 2: Thing I was gonna say.

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Speaker 3: Did no one tell you, like, hey, Gina, you can

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Speaker 2: You don't need to be here at six am. No

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Speaker 4: No, No, I think they must have assumed that I

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Speaker 4: want you know that I wanted to learn. I wanted

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Speaker 4: I had I had no clue.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but do you remember this on Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't a chair with my name about it, and

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Speaker 4: I took to be some Jaffer's tape.

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Speaker 2: Davis, please tell me we have a picture of that somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a photo of that? We need a

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Speaker 2: picture of that.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, how dare we have miss Gina

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Speaker 3: Davis on our set and not give her a chair?

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Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed, Gina, honestly, I'm embarrassed about that was funny.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry I made her or feel cozy. It's a

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Speaker 1: school of hard knocks over at Gray's Anatomy. Whatever, buckle up,

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Speaker 1: let's go. If it was the eighties and Sydney Pollack

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Speaker 1: was directing a movie and he hired me and someone

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Speaker 1: let me on set, I think I'd probably do that,

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Speaker 1: just keep coming back and watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it wasn't a conscious decision. I thought I was.

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Speaker 2: She didn't want to Jessica.

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Speaker 1: I wondered, she's just unconscious.

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Speaker 6: I don't know a good story. If that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: It's like a Christopher Guest movie.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a character in a Christopher Guess

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Speaker 2: It's so great.

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I want to ask Gina.

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Speaker 4: and I am fired up. You know, I've got a

439
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 4: year worth of passion. I had been meeting with my

440
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: acting coach to work on a part that somebody else

441
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 4: was cast in. That's how crazy I was. And I

442
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 4: was working on Louise. My agent convinced me that I

443
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: should be the other part. So I meet with Ridley

444
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 4: and I'm pouring my heart out about why I absolutely

445
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: have to be in this movie and I have to

446
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: play Louise. He finally says, so, so, in other words,

447
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: you wouldn't play Thelma. There was a slight pause, and

448
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: I said, really, you know what's interesting is as I've

449
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: been talking about me playing Louise and everything listening and

450
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: it just doesn't sound right. I actually think I must

451
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: play a smart woman. About why I absolutely had to

452
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: be Oma. And then for a long time we didn't

453
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 4: know who was going to be the other person, and

454
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: he said, well, we'll see what part you play based

455
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: on who the other person is and uh. And so

456
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 4: then when he found Susan, it was obviously she was

457
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 4: going to play Louise, said I would be a yeah.

458
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: And that chemistry read in that chemistry read with Susan.

459
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: Did you know like, oh, this is the fair, this

460
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: is gonna no no, no, no, no no, no, nothing like

461
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: that needed for for Susan.

462
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Speaker 4: I mean, she was a big star and the first

463
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: time I met her was with just Ridley and Susan,

464
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Speaker 4: and I were going to go through the script and uh,

465
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: you don't see if there's any little changes or anything

466
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: we wanted to talk about. So we come in and

467
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 4: I'm just like dazzled by her immediately, And I swear

468
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: it was page one where she said, you know, my

469
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: first ligne here. I think we should just cut it.

470
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: We don't really need that. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right,

471
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 4: we don't need that. And I was like, what just happened?

472
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 4: Because there were a couple of little things that I

473
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about, but I had already planned the

474
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 4: girliest possible ways to bring them up, like this one.

475
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: I'll just pretend it's a joke, but maybe he'll say

476
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: funny but interesting. Point so, and to see her move

477
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 4: through the world throughout the entire shoot the way that

478
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: she does. And I had just never been exposed to

479
00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: a woman who doesn't preface everything she says by this

480
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 4: brob me a stupid idea and I maybe shouldn't even

481
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: say this. Do you think we could possibly? And she

482
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: doesn't doesn't do that. And people loved her, People love you,

483
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 4: Everybody adored her. It wasn't well, we liked Gina a

484
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: little better because she's really Mousey. It was it's like

485
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: they love she says what she thinks, and it was

486
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: so amazing. It was so life changing.

487
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: I love hearing that so much. Your proximity to someone

488
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: who's unwilling to people please or assume a role that

489
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: is a little more accepted or were more versed in

490
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: the platitudes that come before the ask or the demand

491
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: is so interesting because I am absolutely a recovering people

492
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: please her and Camila and I talked about this a lot.

493
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you follow horoscopes, maybe this will

494
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: mean something to you, maybe it will mean nothing. But

495
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: I am a Leo. She is Sagitarius, and this means

496
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: lots of things for lots of different reasons that we

497
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: don't need to bring into this conversation. Wait do you

498
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: know what are you?

499
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 4: Where is?

500
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

501
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? Wait, what's Leo supposed to be? Like?

502
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: Okay, go on, Jess, just honestly everything that you love,

503
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Everything.

504
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: Leo answer, ever.

505
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Loyal, loving all the things to you, all the things.

506
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: And Camilla and I get into this conversation a lot

507
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: because the premise of the podcast is also our bigger

508
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: community and people calling in and writing in and sending

509
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: messages and asking for you know, our take on things,

510
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: and a lot of the times I will comment it

511
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: from like let's be kind and let's think about what

512
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: someone else would think. And Camilla feels exactly the same

513
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: way that I do, and she will be Sometimes I'm

514
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: just like I'm a little blunt. Maybe the don't need

515
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: to be socking kind. Maybe when someone's an asshole, or

516
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: maybe when you need something, you say what you need

517
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and the fact that you are kind is enough. You

518
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: don't need to act kind, be kind platitudes platitudes like

519
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: you just are kind and then you ask for what

520
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: you need. So when I hear you say that, I

521
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: think that must have been inspiring for you to have

522
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: a partner in an unpredictable situation that you saw working

523
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: your business in a different way.

524
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

525
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it was like a three month lesson a training

526
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: camp or something. It was just astounding every day, you know,

527
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: it was amazing.

528
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Obviously your scenes with mister brad Pitt, I know we

529
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: have to chalk about in a hotel room separate from her.

530
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: Although she does admonish you for your gullibility, not for

531
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Thelma's gullibility. Was was she there to to be so

532
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: level headed when he was around.

533
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: Will I mean only for the scene, only for the

534
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: scenes where we were together, you know, we had him

535
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: in the car or whatever. She was there.

536
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 6: She wasn't there that day. No, No, Oh my.

537
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Gosh, because I have to say that scene. I mean,

538
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: I get it. Everyone's like, oh my gosh. You know obviously,

539
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: like I mean, there were so many You were a

540
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: star that was already born, but your chemistry and what

541
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: you all did together birthed just him as a star

542
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: as well, and that was very well documented and acknowledged.

543
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: I personally think that it's watching it as an actor

544
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: and as a just audience member, it's one.

545
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 7: Of the most playful and spirited and free and being sexy,

546
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 7: fun so hot.

547
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: Watching you two together and seeing all that it was,

548
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: it was next level, and I think that it was.

549
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: It was also that Selma was in this relationship that

550
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: was so closed and so like hent up and positioned

551
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: where she had to be a certain thing, and you

552
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: knew there was so much more to her, and all

553
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like in this expression of relationship, in

554
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: the chemistry between you and him, like this, just like

555
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: it was explosive. Did it feel like that when you

556
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: were doing it.

557
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to know. I'm like, is just

558
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: going there because I need her to go?

559
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: There wasn't as fun as it looked, Yes it was.

560
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: It was really fun. It was really fun. And a

561
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: lot of that playfulness came from from Brad. It's just

562
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: so free. It's such an incredible actor. And and a

563
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: lot of bits and things and and things were his

564
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: were his idea in the movie. And uh, but but

565
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: like in that scene we're I think we're doing handslapping

566
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: and he he takes my ring off and puts it

567
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: in a drink. My engagement ring. You know that was

568
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: that was him, That was his idea.

569
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, Brad, I know, take all the rings, Brad,

570
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: take all.

571
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: Brad takes Yeah, off my engagement ring.

572
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: I hate it, Like, give me a drink, Give me

573
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: a drink.

574
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Stop taking off my engage M weird.

575
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 2: You can't predict.

576
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: What's so fun about saying chemistry like that is you

577
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: really can't.

578
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: You can't predict that kind of chemistry too.

579
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: It's just it happens in the moment and it's just

580
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: you can you can feel the heat off the screen.

581
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: It was really important.

582
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 4: It was very important. Really, I mean the fact that

583
00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: it's still you know, it's absolutely relevant and live. Oh yeah,

584
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: it hasn't. You know. Almost every five years there's some

585
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: something or other for the anniversary and there'll be a

586
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 4: screening or something, and Susan and I'll go and we'll

587
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: go at the end, we'll go still holds up.

588
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes.

589
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: We love it. It's I'm very lucky that I got

590
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: to be a part of that.

591
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know you've I have a question. So

592
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: you've been in so many iconic movies and done so much.

593
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: If you could go back and.

594
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: Refilm something again and reh have that experience again, what

595
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: project would you pick?

596
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: Well, I'll start by saying, I want I've wanted to

597
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: do a sequel to every movie I've ever been in.

598
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 6: Except except of It, Louise.

599
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: I know you can't. That might not work.

600
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: What's Heaven Like, What's Heaven Like? This thing happened. But

601
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 4: so I'll preface that I would want to do or

602
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 4: I would want to reshoot Lung, catch Good Night Over

603
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: again and do all that stuff again, or do new

604
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, Sam Jackson and I always talk about that,

605
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: we want to do a sequel to that, But yeah,

606
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 4: I just I it's it's hard to give up characters

607
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 4: that you really love, you know. I always wish that

608
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 4: it was a series instead, that you can keep playing.

609
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: I was fifteen when it came out, and I remember

610
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: sitting in Century City and watching the movie and having

611
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: my mind because there were so many things that I

612
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: had not.

613
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: I had not known.

614
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: Could be true. I just it was probably like one

615
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: of the first movies that awakened my idea of paradox, right,

616
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: that you could be happy and sad at the same time,

617
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: that you could be adventurous and also domesticated, that you

618
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: could be you know, all these different things that seemed

619
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: very much at odds with each other. And I definitely

620
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: felt very much like I was just going into the

621
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: world as a young woman and understanding my sexuality and

622
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: not completely understanding how it would be understood by others,

623
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: And so watching You Two was just an unbelievable education

624
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: and a phenomenal ride to go on. That being said,

625
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: the other film that I watched definitely upwards of five

626
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: times was a league of their own, and again an

627
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: incredible athlete with just this insane affability and this just

628
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: heart of gold and this, you know, don't sell yourself

629
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: so short with your with your with your platitudes and

630
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: your kindness. You you create these characters that just like

631
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: melt into us and we just instantly champion and feel

632
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: for and love and understand again in that particular movie,

633
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: your strength and your ability as an athlete. At the

634
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: same time you understanding the box that you were checking

635
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: for your country and you are wanting to go home

636
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: to a husband and a family. And I just remember

637
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: seeing it all and feeling it all. And now we're

638
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: living in a time where, you know, we have real

639
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: women's sports teams that are being actually funded and so

640
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the recent news that will Obey and

641
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: babyger bought Angel City f CLA, and understanding how women's

642
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: sports teams are actually not only existing, thriving and being

643
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: making badass and awesome, but people are going to like

644
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: the games are being visited and the merchandise is being bought.

645
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm curious or do you keep up with that? Are

646
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: you interested in that?

647
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Like?

648
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

649
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it's exciting. I just read yesterday that

650
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: women won more than half of the gold medals that

651
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: Americans they.

652
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: Did not like yeah, yeah, yeah they did.

653
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, it's not about beating anybody, but

654
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 4: just you know, being valued and being there. Like you said,

655
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 4: it's incredible. So it's so inspiring. Yeah, it's really really,

656
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: it's very cool.

657
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: I remember I remember watching A League of Their Own

658
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Speaker 3: for the first time because I loved that movie so much,

659
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Speaker 3: and I remember thinking that I had not seen a

660
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Speaker 3: sports movie about women before, and I was thinking about

661
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Speaker 3: it before I got on the pod with you. Today,

662
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Speaker 3: I can't think of a movie I watched before A

663
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: League of Their Own that showed a group.

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Speaker 2: Of women playing sports right, right, which.

665
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Speaker 3: Is insane, by the way, because there are many many

666
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Speaker 3: movies about men, right, There's so many, and.

667
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: I could not it.

668
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: Just I feel like you're always Gina, part of some

669
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: sort of like breakthrough movie.

670
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Speaker 2: I mean, the choice of a work that you do.

671
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Speaker 2: I mean, that movie was really.

672
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Speaker 6: It was.

673
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Speaker 2: It was just so inspiring. I had never seen that before.

674
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the press all said, because it was the number

675
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 4: it still is the number one box office sports movie,

676
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: a baseball movie, sorry, not sports movie, baseball movie. It's

677
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 4: the number one baseball movie still. But all the press said, well,

678
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Speaker 4: this will change everything. Now we're going to see so

679
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 4: many female sports movie and I was just like, I

680
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: can't wait. And then I think ten years later or

681
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 4: sinthing Bennett Leffbreckham came out. Okay, but but it's that's

682
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Speaker 4: not to say we haven't made progress, because we have,

683
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Speaker 4: but it's been very slow since the days of Dolinoi's

684
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Speaker 4: and lead of their own. As far as movies with

685
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Speaker 4: strong female leads and more than one female, it's been

686
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Speaker 4: it's been a slow But I have to say that

687
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Speaker 4: some of the big action movies have changed things in

688
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 4: some ways. You know, A Wonder Woman. Uh yeah, yeah, yeah,

689
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: it's like that.

690
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's and there's so many actresses that I admire,

691
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Speaker 1: I mean, Scarlett Johansson and Jennifer Garner occupying characters in

692
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: huge franchises that that mean the most and are so

693
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: strong and powerful as is you know, obviously huge. By

694
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Speaker 1: the way we were talking about we were talking about

695
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: being an athlete, and we were talking about sports, and

696
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Speaker 1: obviously we've all been inspired by the Olympics that are past.

697
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: But is it genuinely true that you almost made the

698
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Olympics team as an archer?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

700
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Speaker 4: No, but I was, I was. I was a me

701
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Speaker 4: finally Olympic truck.

702
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Speaker 1: Oh oh, well, that's almost making it. To me that

703
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: almost that.

704
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Speaker 2: Is almost making the team. That's to me, that's all

705
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: the team when you've won.

706
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and things grow on the internet. So

707
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Speaker 4: first it was she was a semifinal that said, now

708
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Speaker 4: I actually won the gold, you know, yeah.

709
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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I definitely you thought you want the gold.

710
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: Our notes say you won the gold, but I.

711
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Speaker 4: Took up I took up archery at forty one and

712
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Speaker 4: uh my, well you were talking about how I like

713
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Speaker 4: have to dive into things and stuff. And my archery

714
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Speaker 4: coach claims that at the first lesson I said, how

715
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Speaker 4: old is you ald? Due to the Olympics at archery.

716
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Speaker 4: I'm sure I didn't say that. I think you probably

717
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Speaker 4: said that probably the next the second lesson, maybe.

718
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not competitive at all.

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Speaker 2: That's wild by the way, that that's my favorite.

720
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Speaker 3: We in England because I'm from England, you know. In

721
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: England that's part of our pea lesson. We will do archery,

722
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Speaker 3: and it was always my favorite. I loved archery. Growing

723
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Speaker 3: it's making me think I want to know what is

724
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Speaker 3: too old myself because I've gotten gold on the brain.

725
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Speaker 3: After that was archery.

726
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Speaker 1: Did it turned into like just a hobby, was just

727
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Speaker 1: something that we.

728
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Speaker 4: So I, as much as people might believe it, I'm

729
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: an athlete, I really wasn't. Growing up. I was so

730
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Speaker 4: tall and gangling. I was sure that I was not

731
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Speaker 4: good at anything, and I didn't want to try anything.

732
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Speaker 4: But obviously I had to learn baseball for leega of

733
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Speaker 4: their own, and I was kind of good at learning it,

734
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Speaker 4: and uh. And then I had to learn like sword

735
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Speaker 4: fighting and taekwondo and horseback riding ice skating for other

736
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Speaker 4: movies that I did, and I was kind of good

737
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Speaker 4: at learning all those, and I thought, I want to

738
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Speaker 4: take up a sport in the real way. I'm not

739
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Speaker 4: the movie version of it, because they can make you

740
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Speaker 4: look good.

741
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Speaker 6: No matter what, you know.

742
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: I didn't have to actually hit home runs in other words,

743
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Speaker 4: So I decided I'm going to find something that I

744
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 4: can learn in my real life. So it happened that

745
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: the Olympics in it led the world and there was

746
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Speaker 4: a lot of coverags of archery, and I thought, oh,

747
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 4: it's very dramatic, you know, and beautiful, and I thought

748
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: that could be my sport. So I so I took

749
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Speaker 4: it up, and I can't do anything like as a hobby.

750
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Speaker 4: I have to be very careful when I get interested

751
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: in because whatever it is, I will want to go

752
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Speaker 4: to the Olympics in it.

753
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and or win Oscars.

754
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: So you know we need you to start break dancing

755
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: then no, please, I will allow Gina.

756
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, no, you know we're not We're not even allowed.

757
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Speaker 3: We're not even doing that in the Olympics for la anymore.

758
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Speaker 3: By the way, I read that, it's out. The category

759
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: is out.

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Speaker 1: Guess what was an Olympic sport?

761
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Speaker 2: Just when you missed it, It's gone viral.

762
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Speaker 1: So here's my question, what activity or your hobby at

763
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: present time makes you lose track of time? Like where

764
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Speaker 1: are you? Just like I'm doing this thing and it's

765
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: my happy place and or is it still archery?

766
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 4: No, no, I haven't shocked for a little while. But

767
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 4: but well, I'm actually illustrating a children's book that I wrote,

768
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: and I'm spending all my days drawing and and it's

769
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: really fun. But it's you know, once I love drawing,

770
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: I do it all the time, but then now that

771
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 4: it's a job, it's like maybe I have to do

772
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: this Crossford puzzle FROs.

773
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so procrastina.

774
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: All I do is procrastinate it all day and I

775
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: start about two.

776
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: But what I'm just done. I'm just done.

777
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: I'm working on the cover, so I'm do we know?

778
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to know what it's about? Can you

779
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: tease for listeners?

780
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: It's called The Girl who was Too Big for the Page?

781
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: And it's about a girl who lives in a book

782
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: but she grows a little taller than the page and

783
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: so now what is she gonna do? She doesn't fit

784
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: anymore unless she it scrunches herself down.

785
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: So I love this, This is great.

786
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: I love that. I'll be buying this. Do you know?

787
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: Tell us you have to tell everyone when it's out

788
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: so we can we can.

789
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: All go get it. We cannot leave.

790
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: I will not let you and Davis leave without her

791
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: just saying something about beetle Jess.

792
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 6: Oh okay, what do you want?

793
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: Okay?

794
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 3: That script would have been really crazy. Were you in

795
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: though when you read that script? Because I feel you

796
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: had to have a vision for that.

797
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 4: I was absolutely in. And then I had a meeting

798
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: with Tim Burton about it, and and I told him

799
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: I get this. I get this movie. I really do.

800
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: This is gonna be incredible. I don't know. And I

801
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: got cast And he told me later that because I

802
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 4: said that he cast me because he felt like he

803
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: didn't quite know what it was about somebody.

804
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: He was like, on the set, she's gonna know, yeah,

805
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: so incredible.

806
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 6: Oh I was.

807
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I was all in, yeah, Oh my gosh, well I yeah.

808
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: And with with the with September fast approaching and there

809
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: being a new one, I mean, no crazy, I know,

810
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: crazy crazy. If you could be friends with any of

811
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: the characters that you've played, who would they be?

812
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: WHOA, I don't nobody ever asked me that. We think

813
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 4: probably all of them. I know I liked all of them.

814
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: But like, if you could put one in your pocket

815
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: or on speed dial or as you're like number one

816
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: in your starred contacts, like who are you fast?

817
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: Bhona Frat if she wasn't dead Thelma, Yeah.

818
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: I I kind of I was hoping that'd be your answer.

819
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: Muriel from Accidental Tourist, I would like to be friends

820
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 4: with her.

821
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, you know, I remember. It's so I don't

822
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: know why, It's like it's a totally random and whatever,

823
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: but I just remember again in the People people in

824
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: the People, please her category, just always wanting to be

825
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: liked and to sort of like get you know, whatever

826
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: smarts that I had to offer the world to have

827
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: them be you know, accepted and carried through with kindness

828
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: and gentility and everything else that I had sort of

829
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: felt like I needed to do. I remember that scene

830
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: where Thelma they're on the road and his husband is

831
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: on the phone with her and he sells, Thelma, you

832
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: better get your butt back here. And I don't know why,

833
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: but that whole like Thelma gets your butt back here thing,

834
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: paste me off. It hit something in me that was

835
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: like people pleaser cape off.

836
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh no.

837
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: I am not. If I am Thelma or if I

838
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: am Jessica, I am not getting my butt back there.

839
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, my butt is going to be so.

840
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: Far away from you.

841
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: I love thinking about this how you're like fifteen year

842
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 3: old Jesin Capshaw in the movie that are being like, you.

843
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: Get your butt back here? Are you kidding me?

844
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: You don't own me?

845
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 4: That's where she's just narrow go yourself.

846
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: And it was also like the perfect name that Kelly

848
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Cory had the best names. I mean, the fact that

849
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: you got to as Thelma talked to Darryl and Darryl

850
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: had built a filma and film would get your butt

851
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 1: back here. Oh my god, it's like, I.

852
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 6: Don't even remember how.

853
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 4: You were talking about being a people pleaser and everything.

854
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 4: Then why were you such a wise ass with me?

855
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: What I grew out of it? Evolution, baby, Gina, you

856
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 1: got the two point?

857
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I have something to say about this.

858
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 3: You Jessica picks and chooses the wise assery.

859
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 4: Gina.

860
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: We've been subjected to a capshaw that we shouldn't have.

861
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: And I were part of an elite group, I wouldn't have.

862
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 6: Love made my life. I wouldn't have a stip for

863
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 6: the world.

864
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: You guys get you get my truth, Sun, we get it.

865
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: We get the truth.

866
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: So you get my hard eye rolls and my wife.

867
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: Everyone else thinks I'm so nice.

868
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 6: If only they knew.

869
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: They're fine out now because of the podcast. Gina, thank

870
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: you so much for being here.

871
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 3: I just I don't I just want to sit and

872
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: listen to every story that you have.

873
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: And you're just such an icon.

874
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: I had to say before you came on the show,

875
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: everyone was super nervous. But because you're you, and the

876
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: first thing I asked when I got to set was

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Speaker 3: is she nice? And everyone was like genuinely obsessed with

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Speaker 3: you and said that you were the nicest, most incredible person.

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Speaker 3: And it was so true, and just thank you for

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Speaker 3: coming on and gracing all of your amazing presence with

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Speaker 3: us and the Call It crew.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, guy, all of those incredible compliments.

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Speaker 6: All I have to say is.

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Speaker 1: She rolled her eyes. I know it was just it

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Speaker 1: was il We have an I roll eve, an I

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00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: roll on board.

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Speaker 6: That's the honor of you, baby.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know it's so true. I'm the

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Speaker 1: iroll queen. I love you, Gena Davis, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 4: I love you.

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00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 6: My firm tofu.

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Speaker 1: Why you know, maybe we go back to caramelized sweet Caro.

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Speaker 2: Darling was good.

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Speaker 1: It's by the way, just so you know it, because

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Speaker 1: I looked back on our text that my first one

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Speaker 1: was muppish little French, and I like to do my

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Speaker 1: French accent on the show. Camilla really likes it.

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Speaker 4: You called me that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's my peach.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: Oh, is that how bad Jessica's French accent?

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Speaker 4: Was?

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Speaker 2: You had no idea?

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Speaker 1: I stand down.

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Speaker 4: Oh you guys, thank you, we love you.

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Speaker 2: Please come back anytime. You want both, all right, no

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00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: big deal, Just a.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood legend and call it what it is. Oh my god,

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00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: just a Hollywood legend being legendary.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be starstruck on our pod, but

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00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: it at there are moments there where I just was

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Speaker 3: staring at her like a stalker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I felt a lot. But

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Speaker 1: you know what I also really really enjoy and we

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00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit. You know, when you're

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Speaker 1: used to representing a film or a TV show or

917
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: a project, there's a there's an element of safeguarding where

918
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about things in a way that just

919
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: positively frames everything and it's it's it's lovely, it's fine,

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00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: it's great, it's interesting, it's informative. And there could be

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Speaker 1: this other thing, which is the bringing of an X factor,

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Speaker 1: And Gina brings the X factor. She really lets you

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00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: into how she thinks who she is, the story that

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00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think that some people or some other

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00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: people might guard or whatever, because I think she's just

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00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: got such a big heart and because she lives so

927
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: purely and kindly that she has nothing to hide, and

928
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: so her stories are just super funny and she's she

929
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: reveals so much about herself and her experiences, and so

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Speaker 1: I found that so inspiring when I was working with

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00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: her and again tonight and bringing her to the podcast,

932
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Speaker 1: I just I'm reminded of of how much I love

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Speaker 1: that part of her.

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Speaker 2: No, she's exactly how I remember her. She's so cool.

935
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Speaker 2: All right, Call It crew.

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Speaker 3: We want to hear from you as always, and we're

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: gonna drop how you can contact us again in case

938
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: you don't know, you can follow us on Instagram at

939
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 3: call It what it Is and please dm us. You

940
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: can follow us on TikTok at call It what it

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00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: Is Pod. You can call us at eight three three

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Speaker 3: seven call it or eight seven seven seven two two

943
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Speaker 3: five five four eight and drop us a voicemail, or

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00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: you can email us at call it at iHeartRadio dot com.

945
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Oh, call It crew. We would love you so much.

946
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: And by the way, I would also love to know

947
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: what about these episodes is speaking to you? What are

948
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: the things that you love? What are the ones that

949
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: you're like meh, Hey, we can be bold, we can

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00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: live our lives out love. I'm open to it. But

951
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: it's just so important because we hold we hold you

952
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: all so close, and we are pouring through these dms

953
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: and emails and just feel so lucky to have you

954
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: showing up in your very best and very worst selves

955
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: as we all are in life, and thank you so

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00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: keep it coming and have a wonderful night. Should we

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00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: call it, let's call it the end of the episode.