WEBVTT - Joe Pyfer Stops Adesanya at UFC Seattle | Should Izzy Retire? | Eblen Dominates PFL Pittsburgh 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:22.919 Revel. Revelly, look at it, you Jesus combat. No, you 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:35.199 fit in seamlessly in this weird k Marx set. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:43.479 And hey, it's time to get weird. It's time for 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:48.280 Morning Combat. Hello everyone, on this thirtieth day of March, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.320 here twenty twenty six, and welcome to another episode of 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:53.840 Morning Combat. Holy smokes, we got a lot to talk 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.960 about today. I am merely one half of your hosting duo. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.200 I joined you from the capitol of the Stabs right 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.280 here in Washington, d joined by my brethren from Connecticut. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.080 And yet he's a trader to the city of Detroit. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:08.360 It's Chuck Minton Hall. What's up, Charles. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.440 It's baseball season, throwing a baseball cap, you know, the 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:13.280 city alternative whatever they call that. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:17.480 So says Detroit. I like Detroit. You're a Tigers guy. No, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.920 I don't care. I'm a whore. Remember I was wearing 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:26.840 the ZUFA boxing hat. One fucking whrror. It's a good 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:30.360 start to the show right there. Yeah, exactly, dude. This 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.920 weekend was great. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.920 UFC Seattle, great BFL Pittsburgh not for nothing. Also pretty great. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.440 RAF had kind of some fun moments as well. All 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.120 the boxing basically came with finishes. I'm like, man, if 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.560 they could all be like this, I don't think I'd 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.600 ever leave my studio. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.760 That was all blast right. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.280 Every now and again we get one of these right, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.760 like where you get everything alignes, you get like several cards, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:55.640 everything pays off. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.600 You're kind of like having fun no matter which event 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.400 you're watching. That was. That was really what it was. Like. 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.680 I saw you tweet that, and I think you might 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:05.160 have even said it before the PFL, but whatever it was, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.000 the PFL delivered to at the end of the night, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.839 and I was like, hey, man, you can't get better 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:09.160 than that. 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.680 One of my favorite nights, Chuck, this is true if 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:16.919 you'll recall correctly, the night of Michael Chandler versus Eddie 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.400 Alvarez one. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.760 Was the same. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.880 That's right, shogunhendo dude, and both of those fights are 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.560 just all time I know, man madness, and they happened 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:29.839 on the exact same day. 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.840 So yeah, I was thinking about that, man. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.480 That was like I told I was like, you know 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.359 what's funny is that that actually occurred to me too. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:36.519 I was like, do you remember that. 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.919 I was thinking about that because we had those fights 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.200 and they were both ridiculous. You get maybe one of 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:42.760 those every couple of years, and you got two in 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.359 one night. I mean that was wild man. 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.079 Let's bring in the third member here of the show. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:52.160 He is the intrepid producer and professional girlfriend ignorer. He's 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.880 my friend in yours. It's Long Island Luke. Hello, fellow Luke. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:55.840 What's up? Boys? 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.880 It was a great weekend of combat sports. Huh UFC 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.080 Seattle definitely delivered. I let my watch along go a 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.880 little long. We had rif we had PBC, we had PFL. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.639 It was a you know, a great ignorance weekend, as 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:07.200 you might call it. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:07.480 LT. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.000 We have a lot of things to get to here 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.359 on the show. Right before we do that, though, Long 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.280 Island put up the picture of our dear friend. Look 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.079 at this. Look at this fucking photo. Hey, which one 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.200 of these is? 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.360 It's not like the other. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.040 From left to right, it's Brian Custer, who of course 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.760 does PBC broadcast as well as ESPN. And then of 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.880 course you've got my hero in the middle, Camron Cameron Giles, 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.280 and then on the right some fucking goofball that they 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.120 just threw at the end of a broadcast because they 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:43.760 needed someone to do it. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.800 It's Brian fucking Campbell. Can you believe this picture? 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.080 So I actually told bc BC hit me up. He's like, yo, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.920 I'm doing this show. It was like a pre fight 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.400 show for the PBC broadcast. They're gonna have Cameron on there, 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:56.600 and I was like, oh, dude, you got to tell 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.040 him that Purple Hayes is one of my favorite albums. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.360 In fact, on MK his Street Chuck, they asked us 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.840 many years ago, you know, make your top five favorite albums. Yeah, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.840 Cameron's Purple Haze is on that list for really Yeah, yeah, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:09.320 I do. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:10.880 Remember when they asked us, I do remember when you 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.400 guys are going over this. I don't. It's one of 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:16.120 the I don't. That album is so fucking good. It's hard. 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.640 It just it holds up in all the best ways. Anyway, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.640 So I told him to tell him that, and he 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.120 he claims he did, and he claims that he appreciative. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:24.920 He's not afraid. 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.640 Remember him, Oh you weren't with us, But like he 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.800 walked up to Peter Yan and the and the casino 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.240 at one time and just kind of hey man, it's 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.920 Peter Yan and made this big deal of it. And 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.799 you can see that Peter was like, dude, come on, gad, Yeah, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.080 he's not afraid. He is not afraid to go make 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.880 an ass of himself. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.120 You know, he certainly isn't, although he did a pretty 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:43.840 good job on the broadcast. We'll talk about that Keith 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.159 Thurman fight a little bit later, all right. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:46.479 I know what though, Man, just looking at that real 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.320 quick at the MGM Grand, don't you kind of miss 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:48.840 that arena? 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:49.080 God? 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.880 I used to love when the MGM, Yeah, the MGM 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.080 Grand whatever they call it, the Garden arena there, Like, 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:55.000 I love that place. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.000 Man. The UFC doesn't go there anymore, but that was 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.480 that was the place to go. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.680 A ten thousand at no more, I mean fifteen thousands, 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.360 a little big, but like a ten to tall thousand 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:07.159 person arena is fucking perfect, yeah, because there's basically no 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.680 bad seat, and especially for. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:10.640 Boxing, and it was so like it's been some of 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.719 the best fights went down there, man, and just it 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:15.160 would get so wildly anyway, all. 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:16.880 Right, let's set this up for the show today. As 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.560 we mentioned, we're gonna react to all the things we've 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.240 been talking about here. Uh, follow us on the socials, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:26.720 of course, you can do it everywhere. Morning Combat is everywhere, TikTok, YouTube, ig, Twitter, 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.520 you name it, so is Chuck and so am I. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.120 Of course you can always reach the show Morningcombat at 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.479 gmail dot com. We're doing fan subs later today. I'm 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.080 really looking forward to that. Let's talk about the merch 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.040 here for a second. You've got a day and some change, 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.160 basically the rest of today until the end of tomorrow, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:49.520 forty percent off Morningcombat dot shop, the spring cleaning sale 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.200 for the Thrasher well, excuse me, I should say Trasher design, sorry, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.240 the Delta eight design and then the McDonald's Wi Fi design, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.360 all of them there. You can get those on off, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.240 but just for today and at the end of tomorrow, 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.240 and of course we are still well I should say this, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.279 we're doing fan subs later. We're going to announce the 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.159 winner from the month on Friday. But of course, the 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.640 way it works is and keep doing it because we'll 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:14.000 roll this. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:14.760 Into the next month. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.120 The very best fan sub that month we're going to 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.800 give a signed post or two. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.120 All right, So there you have it, all right, Chuck? 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.839 Am I missing anything else? No? 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.200 I think you've hit it all all right. With that 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.120 in mind, let's start with topic number one. If we 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.240 can all right, where else to go? But the main 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.720 event from Ufcattle on a very packed and very fun weekend. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:39.240 Let's talk about that main event. 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.000 Joe Piper stops is Real at Asnia in the second 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.400 round with strikes basically from the back, from the mounted 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:48.160 or back mounted position. So there's a million things, as 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.080 you can see here on your screen for those watching, 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.120 you can see here the position from which it ended 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.039 hip in and he's just unloading and basically is he 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.920 could not get his base under himself, Chuck. So the 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.359 question here is I think the ultimate one because it 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.240 dictates a lot of the subsequent conversation. What is the 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:08.719 truth here, Chuck? Is it a Israel Atasanja looked like 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.920 a diminished version of himself or is it b Pifer 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.280 really leveled up? 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.560 Oh man, you know, it's such a chicken shit way 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:18.080 to go about it. 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.120 But isn't it some of both? 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.560 I mean, if I look at it strictly from the 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.720 piper lens, I'm thinking, yes, that was a very good fight. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.160 I thought he did what he was supposed to do. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.920 It's almost like his eyes lit up though when he 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.840 stood in front of him in that second round, Because 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.920 obviously he wanted to play that game, and he played 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.680 it very well and that's why he won the fight 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:36.160 in the end. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.400 So I thought he performed really well. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.200 And sometimes these guys, remember with his Jack Hermanson fin, 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.440 I think that was a main event, right, and it 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.240 did not go his way, And there was a little 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.720 bit of that. There's always this there's always this guy 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.320 that you worry about who shows up every other time, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.600 but when he gets a big spot, he doesn't show up. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.360 And I was a little bit worried about that for Joe. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.560 Pifer, especially given the sort of circumstance against Israel Adisignia. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 But I thought he held up really well. Man. 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.000 So if I'm if I, if I'm forced to make 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.320 the decision on that, I would say that I was 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:10.000 more impressed with Joe Pifer because I thought, I thought, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.560 is he and I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.119 this too. I thought he was game in this way 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.440 that you know, he's kind of bold and like, you know, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.560 giving into his impulses and things like that at the 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.280 right times. He's made a name basically in a fight 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.920 game by being that kind of guy. And it's almost 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.640 like he was like, you know, what in the second round, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:30.760 I'm going to go for it. And I didn't think 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.839 he was fighting poorly up until that point. I just 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.040 felt like he threw caution to the wind at that point, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:37.640 and you know, it kind of ended up the way 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.320 it ended up. But I didn't really feel like it 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.640 was the worst performance I thought. I guess I was 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.720 bracing for something that could have gone a lot worse 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.520 for him in that fight. 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:53.200 I mean, both is the certainly the more realistic answer, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.559 because it's just the way that like, for example, on 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.840 the Joe Pifer side, Chuck right, Yeah, you have a 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:05.000 guy who is still, I think a little limited in 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:09.840 what his offensive offensive options are on the feet. But 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.560 for example, he played an up and down game here 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.800 the fight finished on the ground, not with submissions, but 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.400 by taking it to the ground. And he also adapted 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.079 to that. Right, he didn't take Izzy down against the fence. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.880 On the fence line is he's very difficult to get down. 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.360 This one was in the middle of the cage, where 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.360 is he's tacked on the fence really is not nearly 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.640 as good as it is when he's on the fence line, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.080 So that was a different adjustment. He did a good job, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.040 tight positioning, came back on top, took the back. I mean, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.920 there's lots of parts of how he's added the ground 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.480 dimension as a really potent force in his game that 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.079 to me shows definite development for sure. Also on the feet, 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.800 he just didn't make as many crazy decisions. You know, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.040 he certainly can mix it up and play a little 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.400 bit of a dangerous game, and he did, but you know, 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.600 in general, he wasn't quite like the like it wasn't 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.000 blitzing in the same way that I saw him before. 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.080 So I think that's definitely an improvement and all that 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.719 should count. However, I thought he was sucking Lynd a 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.640 little bit there in late in the second round. You know, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.959 he had no real answer for Izzy's leg kicks, which 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.320 are good, but still he had basically no answer for them. 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:14.880 And to me, it's like, is his game developing? Yes? 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.440 To me, as I mentioned, he's mixing in more of 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.040 the ground and he's eliminating some of the weaknesses in 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.079 his defense. Yeah, but I just don't feel like I've 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.160 seen a huge sea change on the feet. I'm like, 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.040 just let me ask you, Chuck if the next fight 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.880 and we'll talk about. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:32.280 This a little bit more. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.520 But I just as a litmus test, would you favor 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:38.160 him over Fluffy? 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.080 Oh? Man? 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.559 I mean, and that's kind of one of those fights 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:45.040 I thought about a little bit, but probably not. I 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.200 just think, you know, and again, you know, you're talking 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.240 about Fluffy, who is pretty good everywhere, but I also 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.400 think that he's got that dog in him that will, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.120 you know, kind of reach to certain depths to get 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.880 it done. I just I don't think so. I heard 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.199 a lot of people and maybe this is the recency thing, right, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.400 like you hear people kind of injecting, you know, Pifer 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.720 into and I guess it's because you're beating Israelada Sena 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.960 that looks very good in a main event, but he 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.920 shouldn't be anywhere near a title shot yet in my mind, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.839 I mean, you've got a division where there's a lot 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.960 of guys now kind of cued up there, and like 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.200 you just mentioned, just threw out one name of guys 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.960 above him, or at least that were above him in 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.400 the rankings, But I think they are a bunch that 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.240 you could be like, I'm not sure Joe Pifer beats 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.719 that guy or that guy or that guy, And I 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.880 feel like, you know what I'm trying to say, is 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.280 there's probably more to be seen to feel like he 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.120 could be a true contender before you'd put him in there. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.959 I did see a lot of people, man, I'm sure 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:38.440 you did too that were like, hey, put him in 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.760 like a title eliminator against so and so or whatever 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.400 it is against you know, Nascardine or one of those 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.160 type of fights. And I don't know if I'd go 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.520 that far yet. I think i'd still rather see him, 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.520 you know, take out one of the guys in the 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.320 in the ten to six range before I'd go that far. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:55.920 Yeah. No, I totally agree. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.240 And I mean if the rankings in this one had 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.559 been more close together, that that's what would have been 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.120 next to Anyway, it's because is he had such a 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:08.079 high ranking position relative to Joe that now it creates 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:09.800 for like a well, who's the next thing. We're gonna 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.240 talk about that in a moment. The point I want 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.840 to make, though, Chuck, was that as you can see, 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:16.160 like there are real ways to look at Joe's game 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.840 and be like this is getting better, you know, and 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.400 in ways it matter. But the problem for me was, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.040 as I mentioned some of the some of the some 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.600 of the same things I saw in the stand up 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.480 were a little bit again, more measured, but not new. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.440 Right, that's the difference. Uh. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.200 And I just don't know how you can watch this 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.200 fight and think that is he looks and not diminished. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.480 He looks diminished to me, And how could he not? 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.600 The guys had, you know, new what how many fights 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.199 this guy ever had in his life? Over I think 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.439 over a hundred all told. I was like, I think 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.120 you can see a certain amount of them, but I 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.120 think there are a bunch of others that aren't even listed. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.560 So say nothing of the Jim Wars to say nothing 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.640 of you know what I mean? Like the guy. The 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.520 fact that he's even as fresh as he is is 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.320 frankly something of a minor miracle. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:56.920 You know. 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.880 I don't take any great pleasure in saying this. I thought, Chuck, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.360 what I think what you saw, which was I went 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.400 back and I watched it today. I actually think he 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.680 fought a pretty good first round. Leg kicks were working, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.960 He wasn't getting baited, you know what I mean? He 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.520 was he was kind of staying to himself and fought 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.200 fighting a very disciplined clearly sticking to the game plan, 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.679 kind of approach. But in the second round, he just 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.440 started off doing that and then let it go right. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.200 And you know, there was situations where he's staring off 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.000 with him and not pulling the trigger, which I thought 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.240 was kind of weird. There's moments where he's just wrecked, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.440 being reckless and standing right in front of him, which 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.240 is he's done before, but now he doesn't have the 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.600 reflexes to either get away or counter, and so it's 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.920 just the doubt, like what once trouble starts, it builds 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.560 super quickly against him. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.880 I mean, we've seen its scene. We've seen it before too. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.280 With these guys who've been elusive over their careers, they're 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:56.520 able to kind of get out of the way of 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.520 trouble or they're very just good at dick from a 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.560 counter position where they can, like you know, they let 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.280 they punish the aggression come in at them. This one 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.080 felt like a minefield the whole way because I think, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.280 you know, you go back to is he's last fight 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.520 against uh Nacerdine, and you you know, the way he 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.520 was finished in that one kind of raised the red flags. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.520 The big difference was that first round, especially after whatever 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.760 it was, thirteen months out of the cage. You think 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.200 he's never really had this big of a break in 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.720 his career. Maybe something, you know, maybe something changes, even 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.040 at thirty six years old. We've seen other people kind 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.720 of resurrect that way. But it was almost as if 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.080 he himself was like, what am I doing here? If 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.160 I'm not gonna throw down? It was it was weird, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.280 and I was you know, what did you think of that? 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:45.600 Because why do guys suddenly, you know, kind of say like, 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.040 I'm going to stand right in front of you and 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.120 We're going to trade. It makes for an exciting fight, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.560 But I always feel like the guy, like you're mentioning 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.200 the in diminishing returns, the guy who's kind of the 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.320 the one who's trying to be overthrown, come out short 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.360 on those exchanges, in those desperation moments, right Like, I 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.760 don't feel like too many guys at that point of 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.880 their career when they're trying to snap a losing skid 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.600 and they're like, you know what, let's throw caution in 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.200 the win. It rarely works out that you see a 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:12.960 guy succeed in that kind of thinking. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:13.600 I wasn't. 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.240 It's almost like because he's been so different, you know, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.920 and You've talked to him tons of times, man, I 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.800 know he's like a fan of yours too, like in 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.840 your breakdowns and stuff. And it just seemed to me 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.920 like he was like, you know what, man, why am 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.240 I doing? Like he said in his post fight, like 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:28.680 he wanted to feel like he's in a fight, and 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.720 I just felt like he was like, let's just throw down, 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.400 you know what I mean. It's just but it was 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.520 unique in the sense like if you go back and 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.800 watch his these earlier fights, he used caution in the 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.800 right way over the course of a lot of his 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.400 early times when he was winning all those fights. So 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.400 was it felt like he just entered a minefield willingly 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.280 and he got blown up in the end there. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.640 I mean, I think people need to ask themselves a 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.520 question and listen. He's not going to listen to me 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.640 about this, nor do I expect him to. And who 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.240 knows if he listens to his coach. Who knows if 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.960 he listens to his own inner dialogue about this. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:15:59.440 I don't know if. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.920 These decisions about when to walk away are tough for anybody, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.160 and I fully respect that, but like, you know, if 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:07.560 you're going to do this job, I think you have 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:11.400 to do the job kind of honestly, and how I 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.680 want folks to think about something. How can you reconcile 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:18.360 the same guy that was so mentally focused before the 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.360 fifth round of a Gastolm fight where he's swollen and 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:25.600 beaten up and he looks across the octagon and he says, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.160 I'm prepared to die. Like, think about how focused he 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.960 was about the cost of the mission and then versus 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.120 this one where something went a little bit wrong and 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.480 then or you know, who knows. I'm maybe he got 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.640 hit in the nose. I've seen that, speculator, because Chuck, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.600 if you see there's a moment where uh Piper has 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.840 his back and it's kind of exposing the chest of 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.600 is he to the sky and see him visibly win. Yes, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.480 there was something, there was something I think wrong with 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:52.120 him there in that regard. But I'm just sort of 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.680 pointing out contrast that that focus to the level of 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.280 focus We're like, fuck it, I'm just going to stand 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.320 in front of you, like the I from that time, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:07.120 who could marshal the internal psychological and cognitive forces together. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:10.119 He could not do that here. He couldn't even get 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:11.960 close to it here. And I realized the stakes are different, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.639 the time of his life is different. But that's my point. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.800 He cannot bring himself to do it. You're asking why 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.720 he did that, like why did he stand in front 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.439 of him? I think a lot of times these you know, 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.200 I'm guessing obviously, Yeah, I think he's trying to find 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.120 something in himself that he doesn't feel as much anymore. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.080 I don't agree with that interpretation, but there is an 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.600 interpretation you can. Again, this is not I don't agree 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.760 with this, but one interpretation is that like always looking 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:39.520 for a way out. I don't think that's quite right, 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.520 but I do think he was looking for a way 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:47.120 to like manufacture something inside of him. And that's why, 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.480 like after the fight's over, he's like very nonchalant about 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:50.160 the loss, you. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.439 Know, Yeah, And then you know, we've seen him lose 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.119 in these situations. That Sean Strickland fight was only like 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.160 a downhill on slot at some point. It just seemed 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.200 like he just once it started going in a certain direction, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.000 he was not able to correct it and get it 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.480 back on course. And you wonder sometimes if something like 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.000 that which kicked off I think the red flag season 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.879 for him sticks in your head and where you're like, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.640 I just don't want to like enter into a five 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.000 round type thing where it starts to go downhill on 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.719 me and I have no say in it. And if 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.199 you remember, I mean obviously like his big win in 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.520 the last five fights was that that crazy victory when 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.840 he folded uh Alex Pereira and it was kind of 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.679 in a situation like this where he just kind of 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.360 chomped down on the mouth, you know, the mouthpiece, and 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:30.760 and and threw a big punch and landed it. And 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.040 if that's your success over the last whatever amount of 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.320 years it's been, and that was the one way that 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.600 you can kind of staunch the larger picture, like from 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:40.960 kind of unfolding in front of you and kind of 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.639 showing that you are truly diminished. 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.399 It's not the worst way to go out. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:44.560 Now. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.840 I have no idea, like you said about you. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.639 Know why he chose to basically go that direction, But 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.800 I mean, if you just look at the at the 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:55.680 results over the last bunch of years he had and 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.840 I'm I hate using the word outclass, but he has 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.159 not been the same right Like, And that show on 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.120 Strickland one was the first one that I really saw 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.959 where You're like, man, what's going on with Israel out 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:06.720 of son And I'm not sure he's ever really gotten 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.880 it back. Even in that Perira fight that we're talking 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.160 about where he won, he wasn't doing great in that fight. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.840 He was on the verge there too, right of maybe 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.280 going out. So yeah, it's just it's it's rough, but 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.359 I felt, you know, maybe he just felt like that 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.480 was his best opportunity to get it done, you know 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:23.920 what I mean. 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.760 And one last thing, I'm glad you brought that up again. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.439 I don't know if this is true. I have no 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.000 idea speculative show, Luke, I mean, yeah, I mean, this 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:33.840 is what we do in the show. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:34.960 We baselessly speculate. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:40.680 But the thing for me is, I think it took 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:46.320 him more of himself to get that win over Poeton 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.840 that way, you know, this sort of triumphant final, say 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.600 not in their overall careers, but. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.960 In their particular fighting history together. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.600 I think it took so much resources for him to 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.000 get there, and he had to give so much to 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.280 that process, and I think it meant so much to 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.480 him in terms of like just satisfying his soul that 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.120 I don't know that he had the same fire afterwards. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:09.160 I mean, you haven't realize, dude. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.879 Think the older you get, you'll realize events in your life. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.439 Sometimes they can add things to you, and sometimes they 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.080 can take things from you and your character and who 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.359 you are. Again, it can go both ways. I'm not 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.960 saying it's all negative or all positive. 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:22.240 Chuck. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.680 Life is a funny way of just changing you. But sometimes, Chuck, 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.080 and I know you can speak to this too. I'm 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.720 not making this up. Sometimes you can feel it, like 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.679 if there's a traumatic event right in them mediate and something, 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.120 you can feel it happened to yourself. But a lot 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.399 of times there'll be an inflection point in your life 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.040 and it takes you years before you can even see that. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:42.200 I don't know if you agree with that, but I 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.879 feel like that's true. I agree one hundred percent. 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:50.000 And remember too, like the psychological toll of the Perreira series, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.439 essentially because we were talking about everybody talked about like 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.400 this goes back to Glory. This guy was basically invented, 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.359 you know, to come into the UFC and be the 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.640 guy to kind of be the boogeyman for Israel out 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.239 of son and at the time it seemed like it 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.000 was even a thing. But as he got closer and closer, 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.879 it felt like, Okay, this guy was put on earth 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.679 to come and you know, haunt Israel out of Sonya. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.399 And then he does. And I think, you know, we 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:15.080 talked about this. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:16.520 I know BC used to bring it up because we 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:18.440 talked about on a show where like maybe this has 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.600 never been about Israel out of son Maybe this has 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.840 been Alex Perreira's story the whole way, you know, And 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.280 he kind of took that attitude like he was sort 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:26.639 of like I felt like a little bit of his 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:30.840 identity where he was like, you know, what is unfolding here. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.320 I remember him talking a lot about this and he 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.120 was able to get that victory. So when you say 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.119 that the toll it took to get it, I really 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:42.080 believe that he probably had to go to some places 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.240 in his mind, just like you were mentioned with Gasolon, 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:48.440 like some places in his mind that you know, it 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.320 would be like ordinary people wouldn't understand, Like he just 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.720 such that finally sense Now did he leave it all there? 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.080 That's the question, man, That is the question. But that 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:02.480 there was a big psychological, a big mental toll that 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.160 he took to to win that series or at least 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.560 even it out on that scale, and he hasn't really 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.600 been the same since, right, So sometimes you don't know, man, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.960 Like you just don't know how much you're you're giving 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:14.840 way and you think you're the same guy, you think 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.280 you're walking in the same but clearly you've lost something. 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:17.679 No. 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.960 I mean, we all treat it like you can just 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.040 cut you know, not that you can reproduce the same 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:26.040 kinds of will you know forever. Of course it all 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.520 comes to a close, you know. But I think there's 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:32.320 times that fighters don't realize that they have to give 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.240 something to a mission that takes something from them where 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.320 they're gonna succeed, but then they're not going to be 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.959 able to be the same afterwards as a result of 0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:44.240 what that contribution took. How true that is with this, 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:45.040 I guess we'll see. 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.520 He seems to be and I mean, maybe you can 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:48.960 speak to this a little bit, but like he seems 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:52.399 to be dissociating almost with victory, Like so the wins 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.640 and losses, He's like, all right, that's great, I might lose, 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.719 but I'll stay undefeated. And I mean this is an 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.359 attitude to take, you know, And especially I wrote about 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.160 this like a cruel game that basically takes away everything 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.960 that it gives you in the end. You know, he's 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.280 he's got the attitude of I'm gonna take losses. That's okay, 0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:12.320 I'm gonna just keep going until you guys kicked me out. 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.720 What do you think of that, man, Because obviously we're 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.159 sitting here talking. Yeah, I mean, but this is because 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.080 we've seen this a lot. Right, he's a very different fighter. Like, 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.000 he's very different. His mindset is very different. So it's 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.560 not like you see you know this recurring. You know, 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.120 it's not like the same person. It's it's always comes 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.600 from a different lays. You might give him a little 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.320 more leeway, but it's like one of those things that 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:37.840 you're like, man, that's scary, right, Like the guy wants it, 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:39.160 like he's like, I don't see an end of the sight. 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:41.200 I want to keep doing this. Let me say something 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.240 about that. I'm so glad you brought this up, Chuck. Yeah, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:48.280 I'm really, really, I'm quite glad. One of the arguments 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.359 I'm gonna I'm gonna make this work. Just follow me 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.280 for a second. One of the arguments actually in favor 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:57.600 of boxing's pay structure relative to MMA. Is what you'll 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.359 hear is this is common chuck you for just a 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:03.199 million times. I'm sure, hey, MMA may not pay the 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.040 high end guys the same. But it's got a middle class. 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.600 You've heard that right, Yes, it's like a middle class. 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.160 And that sounds real nice because we associate middle class 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.199 with our own middle class, like, you know, having the 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.520 opportunity to send your kids to school, get an education, 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.439 you know, live a decent life, own your own home. 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.080 You know what we all associate middle class living to be. 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:29.840 It sounds intuitively quite nice. But the older I get, 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.239 and the more fights I watch, and the more I 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.760 see the life cycle of everyone's career, the more I'm 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.959 beginning to think you actually don't want a middle class 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.200 in fighting. That's actually not a thing that you want. 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:43.399 What you want are haves and have nots. Because and 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.520 this is why, not that you want people to be abused, 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:51.399 but that the game is so brutal and it does 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:55.119 nothing but take from you that the only real way 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:57.760 that you can justify doing it for a long time 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.520 is if it confers extraordinary, very financial reward. 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:02.480 Right, that's the way. 0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.440 Or you get out early enough, like Habib got out 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.159 early so that the trade was pretty good actually in 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.040 the end. And if you have a middle class, what 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.679 ends up happening is you just have guys that you know, 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.679 they have to fight for a very long time. They actually, 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.119 you know, they earn a respectable living by middle class standards, 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.560 but they end up taking like an enormous amount of 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.840 abuse because they go much longer than they ordinarily would. 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:26.760 It's something to think about. Why do I bring this up? 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.480 Obviously I don't think Izzy is in that financial condition, 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.880 but he's in this kind of same competitive condition where 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:37.760 you're just keeping going well past the point of sanity, 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.360 well past the point of like, here's why we do this. 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.320 We do this so we can make a shitload of 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.720 money and then get the fuck out. That's the job. 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.640 If you're not able to be a part of that 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.439 track and the things that are part of it, Yeah, 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.840 this is this is nothing but a depletion machine. 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.840 It will just destroy you. There's no way to beat this. 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.200 It cannot be done. 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:04.320 And I really really think that people around him need 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.000 to be in his ear to make him see this 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.320 is going to do nothing but deplete you from here 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:10.760 on out. 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.080 That's what I believe. It's one hundred percent well stated. 0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.080 And I mean the Anderson Silva thing is very similar, right, 0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.360 like in in a way like because Anderson Silva. In fact, 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.399 they kind of fed Anderson Silva too, Israel out of 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.600 sending to kind of get him over and take the juice. Remember, 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:28.360 but it's kinda he knows that he knows how this goes. Man, 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:30.560 he knows the dog eat dog nature. That's what's so crazy. 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:35.400 He's very self aware of his situation. But you're right 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.080 because it's an ever narrowing path that you're on as well, 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.320 Like not only are you losing, but now you're sort 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.479 of like making the matchmaker say who do you? 0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:45.560 Who do you put him against? Do you? Are you 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:46.960 trying to get him back on track? 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.479 Because there's a there's a little bit of a you know, 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.440 and I remember talking about this with BJ Pennet. Didn't 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.359 work out for him obviously, but like if you if 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.280 you put him against the guy that he should beat 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.560 and he ends up winning, what does that do? Does 0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.920 an extend his kind of mindset as to how far 0:26:59.920 --> 0:27:02.679 he wants to take it again? That can be a 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.000 brutal thing, right, just giving somebody some false, you know, confidence, 0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.800 Not that he he's very mentally strong guy. I'm sure 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.720 he sees it all the way that it's meant to 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:15.520 be seen, But I it's it's a narrowing path and 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:17.479 I'm not sure, like, you know, I'm not sure what 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.919 the what are the what are the matchmaker's even gonna do? 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:21.280 You know what I mean, Like, what would you do 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:21.560 with him? 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.520 I'm sure you can get another one of these type 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.400 of events where he can be a main event and 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.840 and some fight night or something like that. But if 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.320 the stakes, like he's a guy who's a high stakes guy, right, 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.320 Like he's played the high stakes the whole time, I'm 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.119 not sure what it does for anybody here other than 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.760 the make I mean, especially if he goes out and wins. 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.200 I mean, it's just it's a weird situation because I think, 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.040 how did you did you think that he might hang 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:48.040 it up after this fight? I was under the suspicion 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:49.960 that he might, you know what I mean, Like he's 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.480 one of those guys who sees the big picture and 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.120 he might walk away. I guess the revelation was that's 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:55.439 now not how he's thinking. 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.359 Yeah, I thought I didn't think he would call it 0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.760 a day at Seattle, But I thought if he lost 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.760 this way, he might like, hey, you know, I don't 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.240 know what's left right and have to go back and 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:06.800 think about it something like that. 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:11.719 And then no, Yeah, I mean so it's would you 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:13.879 who would you match him? If he's going to fight? Like, 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.120 what what do you do with this guy? 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.000 At this? So it's a great question. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.359 I mean, Robert Whitaker sitting at nine that one again, 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.360 I guess he's going to two. 0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:26.880 Five or whatever. 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:32.880 I don't know, but I talked about this yesterday's Mission Radio. 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.920 How about Kelvin Gastolam rematch? 0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:39.600 Wow, It's like, yeah, I know you're scoffing at it, Luke, 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.680 and I know fame Luke as relevant as he is today. 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:44.880 But you can make that a fun fight and you 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.280 don't have to make it a main event either. You 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:47.840 could have it. And I'm just honest. Can I just 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:48.360 be honest? Man? 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:54.840 Like I when I say this, I mean this with 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.600 one hundred percent sincerity. 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:58.920 I don't care if he never fights. 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.640 I mean I do care, but I'm saying I don't 0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:03.600 want him to fight another round ever. Again, I agree, 0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.640 and like to the point where you're asking me, who 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.120 could you put him against I don't even want to 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.760 think about it, you know what I mean. I'm at 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.800 that place like I don't it doesn't like this has 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.320 come to a close for me in all its usefulness. 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:17.040 Everything after this is bad. 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.280 If he walks away right now, you still think, like 0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.160 in my mind because you even look at the reception 0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.720 he got eighteen thousand people Seattle. It's not his hometown, 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.840 right obviously, like they drop the lights, he comes out, 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.640 big pop. I felt like the whole room was a 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:33.080 partisan crowd for him. He walks away right now, don't 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.320 you think that he's still like his legacy is intact. 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.719 I think that most people would look at they're going 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.000 to look at his run ahead of all of this 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.600 stuff at the end of it, and there was nothing 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.880 really because he was fighting monsters and even Joe Pifer 0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:48.320 was a hard fight, right. There's no shame in kind 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:49.800 of the way it went down in the end. The 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.880 bottom line is, I think everybody at this point he 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.760 had such a weird it factor through his process that 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:57.880 that's what I'm going to remember. That's if he gets 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.560 in now. The only thing you start to do at 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.320 some point is to take away from that. 0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:04.360 He's the second best middleweight of all time. 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.000 Yeah, you know, he just is. There's not really much 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:07.600 debate about it. 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:09.760 I mean, Poeton, you know, went to get a belt 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.320 in another weight class, and he might do it again 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.680 in another weight class, and that's its own separate level 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.600 of achievement. But like within the middleweight division, this is 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:17.680 the second best guy. 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.520 To ever do it, period. 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.520 It's not a very difficult argument to make, you know, 0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.800 so to me, yes, it is intact. 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.560 You know, I heard somebody mention putting him against I 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:27.960 know you don't want to talk about who he should fight, 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.680 but if you're going to like it out, a step 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:32.880 backwards would probably be the right way if he's trying 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.080 to get back on track. But like, what about the 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.600 U Stree thing, like they fought and kick by I 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.240 think I think r we would fucking beat him. 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:41.920 They fought. 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:44.800 You remember you were at the Broomfield in Colorado, right 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.200 like the Glory where they fought, and it. 0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:47.720 Was I believe I was. I'm not sure if I 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:48.200 was at that one. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.440 Okay, I was eminly at that one. I remember That's 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.200 when I was introduced really to both of them. I 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.240 didn't really know both the guys, and uh, you know, 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.040 good fight, and I know they had one previously that 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:58.960 year that was like a split decision or you know, 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.200 it was very close as well. So I mean, if 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.040 they were looking to play backstory type things against the 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:05.959 guy and you're trying to get a guy over, and 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.680 that's where that's unfortunately the way that matchmakers might see things. 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.240 It's like, how do you get guys over on Izzy? 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.280 If he wants to keep going around, you know, that 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:14.400 might be an option. 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:17.840 They might do it that way. 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:20.440 I'll say this for the UFC and Joe Pifer, the 0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.920 UFC wanted they always get guys. This was not a 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.440 title fight, but they always get guys like leaving a 0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:29.320 division before someone else can even threaten to the to 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:33.000 beat them, and there's no transfer of star power, you know, generationally, 0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.440 Piper makes it very difficult to like him, right, Oh 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.880 my god, do you hear these revelations? He was like, 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.320 I nearly killed myself and then you find which is 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.560 and I you know I'm not this is. 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.080 You know, you have to take those things seriously. 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.520 I was really mad at DC at first for not 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.560 even we're just skipping over it, but go ahead, go ahead. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:55.680 Well maybe he knew what I know was which was later. 0:31:55.480 --> 0:32:01.040 He admits to Chee and his girl, which then made 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960 him want to kill himself and then found Jesus through that. 0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.320 This is all like in like what a month or 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.720 something like, you just can't believe how insane like some 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.080 of these people are. But all right, putting that aside, 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.720 the UFC did their job right to an extent, because 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:17.920 now you got a young guy beating an older guy 0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.760 with a lot more star power. The younger guy's American. 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.640 Like as a promoter, you're gonna be to have to 0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.400 be happy with that. But to the point you rais 0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:25.880 about what should be next for ply for them, we'll 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.200 move on from this. Is that you've got Sean Strickland 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.320 sitting or is he currently Again they're gonna update this, 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.480 but before they've updated it, is he a sitting at four? 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.560 So he might go joemightz co somewhere around maybe four 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.800 or five. Above that is Strickland, Imovov and then Dupless. 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.360 Those are not fights that I mean, Strickland's going to 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.160 be fighting for the title. I don't care about him 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.120 fighting Drikas, I mean, I know, but to me, the 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.400 more interesting fights are the ones below that. That's what 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.880 I yes, yeah, yeah, let me read. 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:54.440 Them off if I may. 0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.240 Kyle Bahalio, I'm sorry, Kyle boholliow at five, when Brendan 0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.920 Allen at six, Fluffy it's and Rnier de Ritter at eight. 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.440 I gotta tell you in Whitikard nine ken a near ten. 0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.200 RoboCop eleven RoboCop would be a good one like that 0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.200 whereat fights seriously, that's the type of fight he should take. 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:11.680 That's the kind of fight he should put in. 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.600 But be put in next because I was saying it, man, 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.160 I just don't think a little too raw still to 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:19.680 be like, let's just catapult him. 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:20.640 I don't know if he ends up. 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.640 I mean, obviously the rankings themselves, the UC rankings are 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.640 a mystery in terms of how they end up where 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.320 they are. But if he ends up in that, like 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.680 number five or something like that, I think he should 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.720 fight below him, like it should be the guys still 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.440 coming up. I don't think that he I don't think 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.520 he belongs yet in that top five conversation. I think 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.040 there we need to see one more thing at the 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:42.840 RoboCop one. I don't know where where'd you say he 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.600 was sitting like tenth or eleventh, eleventh as it stands, 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:47.480 and I mean he was fourteenth coming in here. And 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.000 if we're saying that Israel Adisania obviously was kind of 0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.120 honorarily at number four, you're like, Okay, let's take that 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.360 with a little grain of salt. I think that somebody 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.800 like RoboCop makes the most sense. It's still above him 0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.320 where he was going into this fight. 0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:01.680 Fair enough, I agree with it. 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.160 We'll see what happens, but certainly a dramatic finish for 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.400 topic number one. All right, let's go to topic number two. 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.960 Let's talk the rest of that Seattle main card if 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.879 we can, which the best UFC main card of the year, Chuck, 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.640 before we even talk about anything else, I know, we've 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.640 got a bunch of questions here to answer due that 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:19.560 main card that was the first of all. The UFC 0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:21.319 Seattle event was the best event of the year for 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.239 UFC by a million miles. We've talked about it on MK. 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.520 Not the low tier, not the meta apex overflow. No 0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.120 one cares about the top of them one, the top 0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.839 of the numbered events. You would like those to be better, 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:37.200 and certainly they have bigger names for sure, But to me, Chuck, 0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.360 the part of the product that's working. Is this one 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.839 on the road fight night with a semi celebrity main 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.520 event that shit works? 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:49.359 Yes, yeah, man, And I mean sometimes I think that 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.480 things feed off of like every now and again, it's 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.560 like a baton pass. The kind of electricity just keeps 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.600 going through the event. We've seen events like this before. 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:57.840 I don't know if you get that at the Apex 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.960 because there's no crowd to kind of push forward. And 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.480 I'm not saying I mean, obviously this is just me speculating, 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.279 but I do think that the ambiance of a room, 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.839 the atmosphere of a room, really plays into this. And 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.680 isn't it a lot better when you watch something like 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.840 the Seattle There's eighteen thousand people. It felt very alive 0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.520 the whole way through it, and we had nothing but finish. 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.840 I think the whole main card was finishes, right, So 0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.680 that's I mean, it's it's probably more than coincidence. 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.319 You know, right, all right, So let's talk about that 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.839 co main event. I'm not even sure where to start this. 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:33.360 Alexa Grosso just I mean sends Maycy Barber Chuck and 0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.919 I think the official description in the records is sent 0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:41.799 her to the land of wind and ghosts. Look at 0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.959 this scene here. I was scared for her. Man, Yeah, 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.239 me too. This was the most scared I'd been since 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.600 Bryce Mitchell. God was twitching, yeah when Josh Emma hit 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:52.880 him with that nuclear bomb. All right, So let me 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.000 just ask this and if the answer is no, that's fine. 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.080 But I don't think it's an unfair question to ask. 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.160 Is Grosso's win over Barbered the best finish. 0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.120 In the history of women's MMA? Oh? 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.799 Man, I mean, okay, so you've had You've had more 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.560 iconic moments, right, Obviously, like Holly Holme beating Ronda Rousei 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.279 a UC one ninety three would be hard to top 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.040 if you're talking about it from a certain way. And 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.400 I mean like rosenaum Munis has been involved in some 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.359 of the craziest finishes, including the slam that she got 0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.960 knocked out in with with andrage. Remember that was like 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.560 one of those ones you're like, oh my god, that's 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.520 quintin Rampage Jackson come back to life. And then of 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.040 course her stunning Jianguilie with a with a head cake 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.600 and Johanna. I would put all of those in there. 0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.239 But if you're just talking about pure savage. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.239 Like animal like. 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.960 I don't it was it was it was predatorial the 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.840 way that she put her away, that that punch straight 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:47.000 into snatching that neck and I mean so deep into 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.880 the neck and just laying like laying her down like 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.359 a carcass at the end. It's just like, I don't 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.440 think I've ever seen anything like that. If it's not 0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.160 the best, it's gonna be the most memorable. I think 0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.640 that that was one of those that you will not 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:00.440 soon forget. 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:00.640 Man. 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.160 Yeah, again, I think that's exactly the right analysis. You know, 0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:09.040 that win that Holly Holm had where she pushes Ronda 0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.080 into range and then fires the head kick as she 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:16.200 wanders into just the right spot. I mean, I don't 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.160 know if anything's gonna top that, but I agree with 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:22.359 you in terms of like the kind of mma is 0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:26.000 very good for a level of brutality that you hadn't 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:27.840 even contemplated. 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.919 You know, where that wakes it up when you see 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.480 some shit right like that that wakes that thing back up, 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.319 spins her like a top with the left and then 0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:39.040 hits her with another shot and then jumps on the 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:40.600 back to the point where like put the. 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:41.920 Picture up one more time. I don't know if you 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:42.480 can see it. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.200 Yeah, you can't see it great from this angle top 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:51.319 right corner. Macy was almost biting her own tongue off. Yes, 0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.520 I did see that, Like I mean, just like do 0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.400 you you know, like an animal on the side of 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.000 the road. I'm not I'm not trying to be difficult 0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.720 about it, but you know what I'm saying, Like, here's 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.960 but by the way it responded to all this, saying quote, 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.840 God is good all the time. No place else I 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.920 would have rather been than last night. Excuse me, even 0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.960 though I don't remember much. This is just another piece 0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.520 of the story. Thank you to the UFC for the 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.839 opportunity and congratulations Alexa Grosso, love you all. I will 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.040 be back, which is good to see. Certainly we're very 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:20.480 happy about that. But dude, that was fucking incredible. And 0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.680 I know we kill women's MM a lot because a 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.879 lot of times it's shut opposit to this. So when 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.440 they deliver, it's really important to be like, did they deliver? 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:31.759 They over delivered to an extraordinary degree. 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.880 Especially because if you looked at this main card, the 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.520 six fights on it, you'd be look at this one. 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.680 I like, well, that one's going to decision. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:39.160 I was talking to Long Island Luke before we started 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:41.480 taping here, and we were like, you know, if you 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.400 were to pick a fight that you're like, Okay, this 0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.680 one's going the distance and probably Maycy Barber comes out 0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.520 on top. This was the one right like, and that's 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.920 what made it that much more of like a shock 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.080 to the system. Was just Alexa Grasso. We'd seen her. 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:58.600 We were talking about diminishing form of Israel at a 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.560 cent I kind of felt like she might be on 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.600 that track a little even though she's not nearly as 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:03.320 old or whatever. 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:04.279 She's been around a little bit. 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:08.759 But to land that, to land that punch as clean 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:11.920 as she did, and then to like just snatch the 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.560 neck all in one motion like like a like an 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.200 animal Like, that's what it looked like to me. And 0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:20.160 and to kind of have that finish and the visual too, 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.440 because for just a second Barber is trying to go 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.279 for a single leg on the uh or grabbing the 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.319 leg of the referee as a last you know, the 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.680 last moment before she kind of falls away like and 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.560 fades out for the next like five It was just 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:35.959 cinematic almost. I mean it's almost like you're like, dude, 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.719 that couldn't have happened, but it's it was way more 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.279 shocking just given that it was Grasso who did it, 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:42.799 and you know, we've known that she did, Like, who 0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.840 are getting that Chef Chenko? You know that Chef Chankos 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.680 submission a few years ago always sticks in my mind 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:51.840 of what she's capable of. But dude, that was savage 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.560 on another level like that, we we get immune to 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:57.080 watching certain things, like I can see cuts like that 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.520 Bahamandas fight earlier, Like you can see blood and all 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.080 that broken bone sometimes and it doesn't phaze me at all. 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:04.760 But there's something crazy. 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.600 Animal about like when you see something like that, you 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.239 oh my god, it awakens this thing back in you 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:10.160 what you're watching. 0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:15.359 Yeah, the way her like Barber's body gets just like 0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.920 grabbed and whipped, you know, to your point, it's like 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:22.480 it's like a hawk or an eagle coming down and 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:24.480 then grabbing a fish off the top of the water. 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.120 You can see it kind of flailing in. It's why 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.239 I know it in its talons. All right, But let's 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.640 talk about the fight itself. So what does this mean? 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.719 On the one hand, Chuck, I mean a massively redemptive 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:37.720 moment for grosso. 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:38.799 You could start there if you want. 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:40.920 But the other the other question here is okay, this 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.279 is a bad loss for Barber, but there is an 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:47.040 open question of at twenty seven years old, how bad 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:47.960 of a loss is it? 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.120 Exactly? Was way in here? Please? Well? 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.719 I mean, do you remember the rockstam out a fairy 0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:55.880 fight where she was like a heavy favorite I'm talking 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.040 like minus of one thousand type favorite and she ends 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.400 up losing it. She was very young, and I remember thinking, then, 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.400 you know, it's either she's too young or she has 0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:08.960 a mindset that something something with Haywire and how she 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.719 perceived herself, And I didn't quite I thought that she 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.680 was building herself with the victory she's had this last 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:19.879 time correctly. So something like this you wonder, like, does 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.120 it take away sort of this the sheine of your 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.800 own feeling of your invincibility because she had like something 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.560 that she was like I felt like she was in 0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.879 the right place mentally. But something like this really does 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.920 change that. We've seen it happen so many times when 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.959 somebody gets knocked out in a big way and they're 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.480 not able to come back. I now, now that's the 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.560 question for her, is like how do you respond to 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.120 something like this. You mentioned her age. She's very young, 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.879 so I'm not putting it past her to come back, 0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:48.400 But I'm just saying that these can be very mentally hard, 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.160 and just the optics of it too, right, Like everybody's 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.959 gonna you know, we're gonna be seeing this on a loop. 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:57.120 She's gonna be seeing it on a loop. It's gonna 0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:58.839 be a tough mental hurdle for her man to get 0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.439 back on track. 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.840 Yeah, she has time and she has the opportunity. The 0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.680 lesson to me just when the ex's and O's chuck 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:07.920 is you know, you go back and you watch the 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.799 first fight. It was in the APEX, but I think 0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:11.960 this was like the middle of the pandemic. I'm not 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.279 sure exactly what year was, maybe twenty twenty one, so 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.720 something like that, and Barbara had a hard time closing 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:20.960 the distance. She was able to do it a little bit. 0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:22.439 She was able to in the first fight, was able 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.040 to wing overhands and then you know, clinch against the fence. 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:27.759 There's a couple of times she failed on that, but 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.279 then there was the longer the fight went. She had 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.320 a little more success in the third in that regard, 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.080 but closing the distance. That was the big one here. 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.719 And the problem with this loss for Barber is not 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:43.560 just the violence of it all. But I did, like 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.359 Chuck that she was stepping into range more right. 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:46.799 She was. 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:49.920 She was electing to take the fight to those places 0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.200 much more readily, which I do think is a good, 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.400 good thing. However, she got in trouble here because she 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:59.120 like grossly overstepped and then had to go off balance 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.239 and then her head in the line and couldn't move, 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.640 And so as a consequence, like so overstepping and then 0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.680 using you know, kind of suspect defense for that position, 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:10.879 you know, a Luke Rock hold against Michael Bisping right, 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.520 or you're just leaning but you've over committed that it 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:16.600 just causes constant problems. And it's like, it still seems 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.560 to me that the things that were affecting her in 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.359 the stand up they're not the same as they were, Chuck, 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.920 But there's still there's there's a lot of improvement that 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:25.640 needs to happen. 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.200 Yeah, do you think that she just did not view 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.239 Grasso as a threat to put her away that way? 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:35.320 Because I just was checking. I'm like that has Grasso 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.239 had a KO before it? And I don't think she 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:38.759 had in the UFCA. You have to go back to 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.000 Invicta before she put somebody away on the feet. 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:43.680 I mean, she definitely wanted to pressure hard. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.000 Yeah, I just I mean in the end, I'm not 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:46.480 that it was. 0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:50.200 It seemed incautious exactly, but it just it didn't feel 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.120 like the respect fact. I don't I don't think she 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:53.840 really believed that she could get knocked out with a 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.160 single shot like that. And that shot was so violent 0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:57.640 and it was like a piston bom. It was just 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.680 on her flush, right on the chin. I mean, as 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.719 beautiful as they get. Like you had two crazy sequences 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.719 in one there with the with the choke, the way 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.279 like the visual of that choke, with that punch, I 0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.240 mean like that that's that's it's almost like a double finish, right. 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.879 Yes, I felt I initially had tweeted, oh my god, 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.920 submission of the Year. I couldn't quite I knew she 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.200 was she was obviously dazed from the punch, but I 0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:22.000 didn't know she was out. 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:22.719 Uh. 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:24.120 And then I showed the replay and I was like, no, 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:25.399 she was fucking out, Like. 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.799 I know, Long Island. You said that somebody, what was 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.400 your story? You were saying that, like somebody thought that they. 0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.359 Gaff had gaff had Grosso by Ko and we were 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.440 all disappointed because we thought it was a sub win. 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.640 We found out like five minutes later they called it. 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.200 I mean, I don't remember that happening before. I don't 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.520 remember where. You're like, oh, that was a submission. They're like, no, no, no, 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.360 she was well out by the time her neck was 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:44.799 being wrong. 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:48.160 Can you imagine it's like, uh, hey, so bad news. 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:51.960 Uh we don't know how to describe how badly you lost. 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:52.719 You know what I mean? 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.400 Well, she was one of the I remember talking to 0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:57.920 Ben Askrin and I was like, when did you you know, 0:44:57.960 --> 0:44:59.759 because when you get knocked out or you get like, 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.000 it's to create, like when did you really come become alert? 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.000 And he's like in the hospital and I was looking around. 0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.359 I'm like, I get I'd taken it. I didn't win, 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.520 And you're like, well, that's kind of I felt. 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:12.719 Yeah. I felt like she was. 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:14.520 I felt like she was in that space you could 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:16.000 see them kind of like telling it and she was 0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.120 just looking around in a bewildered way when she came 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.719 to which I was just happy that she came back 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.600 for a minute there, Man, I was like, it was 0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.399 a little nerve racking to see her just staring off 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:27.759 into the distance with the lifelessness in her eyes. 0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:31.160 You know, yeah, amazing. All right, so we'll see what 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.919 happens from here. Let's talk about it. Usually Bill Gari Man, 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.920 this was for me his best performance at MMA, and 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.120 I just I don't know which one would be better, 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.960 because you know, did everything go perfectly? No, However, this 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:45.840 was a very good opponent in front of him and 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:50.040 Mansort abdel abdul Malick. So let me just ask you, Chuck. 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:51.840 I have my own thoughts, but I want. 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.000 To hear yours. Yeah, what to you? 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.440 Really made this performance from Bill garwiso special. 0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:58.920 I mean he was just able to make like he 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.160 kept the thing, who is he six ft six, He 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.799 kept the thing in his in his you know, his 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.360 realm of expertise, which is the kickboxing. But he was 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:11.680 also his strength has gotten much better, like totally. You 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.280 could see him just thwarty, and you could see Manser 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.520 basically not sure what to do with it because the 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.160 times he was kind of going in there and doing 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.680 he he was being not manhandled, but he was being 0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:24.799 easily shucked off, and I think he was like, this 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:26.800 isn't going to be as easy as I had hoped 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.040 to kind of take him to the mat. So I 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.000 think that his strength is one of one of them. 0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:34.720 And I mean, dude, like when you look at Usuri, 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:36.880 like the guys he's training with, and I live just 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.360 like a few miles from from where he trains with 0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.359 Glover to Shera and Alex Perera and all the guys 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.360 who come through. They have a lot of wrestlers and stuff. 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:46.879 They go hard, man, and I just think that they 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.399 kind of know how to build a guy the right 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.920 way so that you can you can handle like that 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.200 basically to cover up in the Glover. The Glover was 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.680 excellent to any of your weak spots and make it, 0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.759 turn it into a strength, to put it back into 0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:01.080 you or realm of where you want it. 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:02.839 And that's what he did, man. He made the fight 0:47:02.920 --> 0:47:03.239 his own. 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.160 He kind of dictated the terms and he used the 0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.080 range and stuff when he had it because he that's 0:47:08.080 --> 0:47:10.520 his advantage, right. He was able to use that brilliantly 0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.719 in that fight. And I agree with you one hundred percent. 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.600 I think that that was his best performance. And now 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.040 he feels like, I don't know how you feel. I 0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:18.600 felt like he was the B side a little bit 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:21.000 in this matchup, but now it feels like suddenly he's 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:22.759 one of those prospects you got to keep an eye on. 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.720 Well, it was against another decent prospect prospect. Yeah, yeah, Malick, 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.439 like Malick wrestling out of Maryland. Like he had looked 0:47:29.480 --> 0:47:31.120 really good prior to this one, and I still think 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:32.359 there's plenty of potential for him. 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:32.759 This was. 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:34.799 He doesn't have a lot of fights, this was. I mean, 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:36.480 let me look it up exactly here. I've got it. 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:41.560 Malick has only excuse me, Yeah, he only has eleven 0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:42.800 fights total. 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.320 This was. This was his eleventh fights. So I was 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:49.120 in education then, you know, educational fight. Yeah, this was 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:49.680 a step up. 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:51.560 You know, he certainly felt it, and I think he's 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.759 definitely gonna learn from it. But dude, this was I'm 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.279 so glad you brought it up to me. It's like, 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.960 obviously he's good on the feet one, you know, between 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:01.839 and we'll talk about the Douglas fight. 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:03.839 A good jab and a good leg kick. 0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.960 If you have strong fundamentals, you can win a UFC 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:08.360 title with just those two things. 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:09.960 I swear to God that that is true. 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.360 I fully believe that, and you saw just you know, 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:15.319 did he build more offense around it as the fight 0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:18.920 went on, Yes, of course, but what set up everything 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:20.959 the jab in the leg kick. 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:21.839 Absolutely. 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.200 And then in these wrestling positions, you know, is he 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.800 objectively stronger than Abdel Mallick and some of these probably 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.080 you know, like who can bench more or whatever? Maybe 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:35.120 maybe not, but in those positions he has clearly worked 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.239 on how to leverage his strength more maximally. And it's 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.040 sent like, you're right, dude. Abdell Mallick locked up with 0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:43.440 him and was like, oh. 0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.160 This is not I can guarantee you. Yeah, six foot 0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:48.880 six frame, very lanky. 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.360 You think you know, if you come in there and 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.800 the leverage you get low, you're gonna be able to 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.080 dump the guy. But it was it was you could 0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:59.479 see that that was a problem man, and that I mean, 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:01.520 if you get that's what makes it so intriguing. A 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.920 six foot six frame that knows how to you know, 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:07.680 kind of keep it in his room, stay on the 0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.120 feet and like, uh, basically kind of make it ugly 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.080 and where he needs to to stay on his feet. 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:15.040 That's going to be a problem for guys. And I 0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:19.200 think that they obviously getting tape on this guy. Maybe 0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.439 other wrestlers handle him differently if they get the chance 0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.759 to fight him. But that was like almost a declaration 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.000 in my mind of Hey, if you want to put 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:28.880 me against a guy who's going to be one sided 0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:30.799 like he wants, he wants to dictate his will in 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.960 the wrestling realm, it's going to be a disappointment for 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.120 you when you try that with me. That was I mean, 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.640 you rarely see it from a kickboxer coming in and 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:42.080 having to learn that side of it. It's usually the 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:45.080 wrestler will have an advantage in that situation just because 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.920 they've you know, a kickboxer doesn't know what to do 0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.600 in that situation, right, Like a kickboxer, the hardest thing 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.480 for them to do is to adapt to a wrestler. 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.359 They don't they've never trained wrestling and all that. That's 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.640 what he's done, though, I think for these last few years. 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.280 I mean, he low on the Contender Series to Marco Tulio, 0:50:02.320 --> 0:50:05.080 which I don't think is a terrible loss, but it's like, yeah, yeah, 0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:08.200 I think Abdoll Malik is way better than him, and 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:13.520 you saw this from him, like he is clearly leveled up. Dude, 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.359 those fucking guys out of your state, Connecticut, Old Glover man, 0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:21.360 Old Glover to share a boy man, Yeah. 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:21.439 He sure does. 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.600 Like it's easy to walk away from fighting when you've 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:26.440 got like these monsters in your gym here, you're like, well, 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.719 I'm just gonna like vicariously go through you guys. But 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:32.239 I mean, he the way that they train in there, 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:34.440 I mean, I'm sure it's it's like this in other places. 0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.840 There's not a lot of coddling going on, you know 0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.120 what I mean. It's kind of baptism by fire in 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.440 that gym. And I mean for some guys that works. 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.080 And I think that Ustre is one of those guys 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:47.640 who came in and it has benefited him tremendously from 0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.000 being a kickboxter in too now like a very well rounded, 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:51.200 you know, mixed martial artist. 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:56.080 Also, Glover is one of the things that was underappreciated 0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.879 about him was he he was not the best guy 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.280 two five suck. He was never he didn't. He didn't 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.200 have like that refinement of ability. But one of the 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.520 things you have to say about Glover's abilities when you 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.440 watched him fight was he was very technical and He 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:16.760 was a big believer in fundamentals. His game represented fundamentals 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.080 as like that's a great point, as like this is 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.200 this is what counts is doing this. So taking some 0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.200 of these guys and then giving them some like like 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.680 real like you you need to be good in this 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.760 position no matter what, and then forcing them to do it. Yeah, 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.399 I think it's just it's working out really fucking well. 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:36.680 It's great, man, because I do think that the you know, 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.759 how old is I don't know how a user is 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.480 not Super year three, Okay, I mean, but you know 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.279 he's got he's got a run in him, Like if 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.399 he can, if he can put it together in these 0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:47.160 next couple years, it'd be fun to watch him and 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:48.359 how far he's able to get. 0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.480 Let's move through these as quickly as we can. 0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:55.120 Hear. Anything to say for Michael Kass's retirement, Not really. 0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.080 It almost seemed to me that Nico Price was booked 0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.440 into this, Like I kind of convinced, you know, in 0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:02.400 the way that he he didn't put up much of 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.319 a resistance in this fight. He was almost like they 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:06.279 were like, hey, man, don't retire yet. Fight one more. 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.439 So it felt it was just too easy. But I 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.160 you know, there's always a little bit of a hey man, 0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.959 like this is great for a guy who's been around 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.120 the game. I don't know when he broke in in 0:52:17.200 --> 0:52:19.799 terms of Michael Kissa, but it's been it's been over 0:52:19.840 --> 0:52:22.520 twelve years. And to give him a good send off 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:23.839 like that, we just don't get it. We're just talking 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.680 about how you don't get graceful outs in this game 0:52:25.719 --> 0:52:26.359 and he got one. 0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.680 So great for him, man, And then I don't have 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:30.200 much to add. 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.360 I mean people were bitter he got a highlight package 0:52:32.360 --> 0:52:34.000 and I'm like, I mean. 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.799 He was the UFC gives it to people that they like, 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:37.600 what do you want me to say? 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:39.400 Like, yeah, yeah, that's true. And he's like, you know, 0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:41.200 he's one of their broadcast guys. You know they're going 0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:42.320 to give him the special treatment. 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:42.719 Yep. 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:48.840 Leke On Douglass just absolutely demolishing, juicy j Juliana Rossa 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.279 on the feet, takes him off of his feet three times, Chuck. 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.840 You can see it in the top here with a jab. 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.600 How legiti of a prospect does he appear to be? 0:52:58.360 --> 0:52:59.640 I mean he looked pretty legit. 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:03.040 This is a dude too, who had like some losses 0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.399 in his career, and I think that that sometimes blinds people. 0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:08.200 They see, oh, he's he's a journeyman guy. He got 0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:09.880 in the UFC. Okay, but he's got like what four 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.600 or five losses on his record. He's probably not that great. 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:14.920 But then you see that kind of performance, and you 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.359 see how refined he was in the stand up game, 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:21.319 and just how vicious he looked, you know, once he 0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.160 got rolling, and also just how rhythmic it all became, 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.799 like I I to me, that was a huge statement man, 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:29.160 Like I would I would definitely be keeping my arm now. 0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.000 He lost via basically like a head kick and the 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.719 subsequent punches in LFA back in twenty twenty three, and 0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:40.520 then went on an absolute tear in that organization, winning 0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:42.719 a title in twenty twenty four, then defending it in 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.719 twenty twenty five, stopping Cam Tigue, who I did not 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:49.520 see as a particularly difficult threat in the Contender series. However, 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.720 Harry steps into fight Julian Rossa, who is certainly older 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:56.800 Chuck juicyj is what thirty six not that old actually, 0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.759 but your point, to your point, Douglass, just thirty years 0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:03.000 of age, so certainly had some you know, tripped up 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.000 early but since that last one, you can just tell 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:07.759 has clearly decided to level up. 0:54:07.800 --> 0:54:10.759 Arosa may have been like the best dance partner for 0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.400 him too, just given that he was going to kind 0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:15.280 of accommodate the style that would that he could showcase 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:17.000 on like that that that seemed like it was an 0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:19.239 evidence as well. There were some good exchanges in that fight, 0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:19.879 you know. 0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.520 Yeah, for sure, for sure, but it was I mean, 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.280 it was for the most part one way traffic. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:25.000 Yeah. Uh. 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.120 And then last but not least, I mean, what is 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:28.880 there to say about Terrence McKinney, Chuck. 0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:33.120 The evil Knievel of MMA. This guy, look at it, 0:54:33.160 --> 0:54:33.600 he gets up. 0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.480 I mean, this is the most amazing part to me 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.320 about Keep this picture up. Look at the top photo 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.720 here of Kyle Nelson. He's raising a leg to Annie's 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:45.439 getting his arm down. Annie's burying his head. The foot 0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:49.200 even of McKenny even lands on the shoulder, and it 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:50.640 still does enough to rock. 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:53.160 Him the shoulder. Was it the shoulder the winner in 0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:53.480 the chin? 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:55.840 Because it did look like his head snapped as this happened, 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.760 Like mss must have been a connective impact there or something. 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.000 I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean. 0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:06.160 He's got to be one of the like you you mentioned, 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.080 like is he one of the most exciting fighters or 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:09.839 is the most fun fighter in the UFC. He's got 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.000 to be up there, right. The dudes fought twenty six 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:16.160 pro fights and he's there's never went to a judge's scorecards. 0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:18.040 I mean that that tells you, and that so that 0:55:18.080 --> 0:55:20.280 tells you that he's going to play roulette with whoever 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.360 he stands in there against. He has plenty of losses, 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.600 but you just know he's going to deliver on something right, 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:28.400 Like he's gonna either go in there and get knocked out, 0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:29.759 or he's going to knock somebody out, or it's going 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.640 to be something crazy and we're gonna be talking about it. 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:35.600 The more astonishing thing for him, man, is that in 0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.799 those twenty whatever amount it is in the UFC, he's 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:41.040 never won a performance at the night bonus. If anything, 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.120 he's a good look charm for the UFC because his 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:47.360 performances are always good. But he's always on very good cards. 0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.040 And I kind of look back he's been on like Elliot, 0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.000 it's a pitious cards. And you know some of these 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:56.520 like where they just had like incredible performances and you're like, well, McKinny, 0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:58.440 it's bad luck. But it's also like when he's on 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:00.279 a card, it seems to deliver the whole card. 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:04.560 Does here's his run if you count Contender series and UFC. 0:56:04.600 --> 0:56:07.000 I'm not gonna read everything, just just the rounds, ready, 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:11.799 So round two, Round one, Round one, Round one, Round one, 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.680 Round two, Round two, Round one, Round one, Round one, 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:16.560 Round one, Round one, Round one. 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.720 Wow, round one, Round one. He's not even a three? 0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:22.279 Did you even name it? Three? No? 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:24.600 He hasn't touched on this third round. I mean that's 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:26.360 what I'm waiting to see. What does he do in 0:56:26.400 --> 0:56:28.600 the third round? As he still got stammin at that point. 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:32.279 You know he is evil. Canievel of MMA shot out 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:33.520 of a cannon. 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I'll 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.640 go to you first, Chut, what should have? 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:08.520 What? 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:11.640 What do you make of the Musaiav and bab Mondes fight? 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:15.880 A fun fight in general, Musaiav gets the nod, but 0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:19.920 there's a fair amount of cheating that happens between fence grabbing, 0:58:19.960 --> 0:58:23.040 headbutting and the like what how do you understand what 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:23.600 happened here? 0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:28.120 Well, I mean watching it in real time, the most 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:32.720 pivotal moment in that fight, do you guys hear me? Yeah, okay, 0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.000 I saw that this thing was like, okay, the most 0:58:35.000 --> 0:58:38.240 pivotal moment in the fight was I think second round, right, 0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.640 and uh Bahamandez is getting like he looks like he 0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:44.760 has a chance to either put the fight out, like 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:46.800 he can finish the fight, or he's going to put 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.400 himself in a dominant position by suplexing him off that, 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:53.560 you know, off the fence. The obvious It was so 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:56.760 obvious that fence grab that it changed the momentum of 0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:59.640 that fight. And it's rare that you see something that 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:03.920 blake and go unpunished where it actually swings the momentum 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:06.520 in the reverse favor. And then later in that round 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.640 there's an obvious headbutt and you see this Land and 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:11.800 you're like, okay, what is happening? It almost was like 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.160 bam meanders was you know, And it's some kind of 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:18.160 like bad dream, like a nightmare because what was happening, 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.800 Like he went from winning that fight to losing it 0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.600 to getting bloodied up and bludgeoned at the end. 0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:25.360 What a turn of events. 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:27.880 And I honestly I was racking my brain to remember 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:30.280 something where it changed that drastically off a fence grab. 0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:31.720 Can you come up with a fight that did? 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:33.640 I know, we've had some bad ones in the past, 0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.320 but like in a moment of clear offense where you 0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.440 have the moment to put a guy away or to 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:44.160 at least really establish and dominate with the position, and 0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:45.560 the fence grab changes everything. 0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:52.120 Long Island, Luke come on in this one where on 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.080 all time fence grabs relative. Chuck's question, are you and 0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:56.479 also what did you make of this fight? 0:59:57.040 --> 0:59:58.840 Well? I told you pre show that. 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:01.480 I mean, I was, you know, gone few beers in 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:04.360 twenty bond hits and by the time this fight is happening, 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.400 I didn't even notice the fence grab in real time. 1:00:06.440 --> 1:00:08.240 I'm just going, Wow, what a war. This is a 1:00:08.280 --> 1:00:12.480 crazy fight. But again, you know, I'm juggling, I'm reading 1:00:12.520 --> 1:00:14.040 the chat. You know, I'm doing a bunch of shit. 1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:15.920 So I'm really not a good person to ask for 1:00:15.960 --> 1:00:19.280 that as far as it changing the momentum of like, 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:21.960 as far as egregious fence grabs and UFC history, I'm 1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:23.760 really trying to think of a different one. 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:26.000 There was, like, there's got to be one. I gotta go. 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:29.400 There're so ubiquitous that it's honestly it is hard to remember. 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:33.680 But but one that just clearly one eighties the fight 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.439 from where it was heading to something else like that's 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.080 it's that was drastic. 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:40.440 You know, I don't know if the Commission would do 1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.480 anything about it, because at the end of the day, 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:45.440 it's they give so much latitude to referees to be 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:49.440 shitty that Yeah, I don't know the I don't even 1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:51.200 know if this is reviewable. But if I was bombed 1:00:51.240 --> 1:00:53.480 one as this team, I would absolutely be bringing this up. 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:57.160 Chase Hooper has now been stopped twice in two fights. 1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:58.560 What do you what do you think here? 1:00:58.600 --> 1:00:58.960 What? What? 1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:01.000 What lesson can we in for from the results in 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:01.360 this one? 1:01:01.760 --> 1:01:02.560 Doesn't it feel like? 1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:04.240 I mean, I know he started very young, but it 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:05.800 feels to me like he's got to bulk up a 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:06.280 little bit. 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:10.760 Man. You know, I like this this particular fight. Who's 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:11.440 the Who's the cat? 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:14.640 I'm sorry, Who's Lance Gipson Junior? Lance Gibson kind of 1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:16.760 knew what he was going to do. It was obviously 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:18.000 he knew what he was going to do. They had 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:21.120 a plan to counter it, and that plan worked, and 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:24.040 it didn't feel like Chase had a plan B of 1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:27.560 his own. And so like he just went in there, 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:29.600 you know, trying to get the fight to where he's 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:31.880 comfortable and you know, on the ground and where he's 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.600 got some submissions and we know he's very good, but 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:36.280 he couldn't do it. And then that's what gets him 1:01:36.280 --> 1:01:37.840 in trouble in the end, is just kind of selling 1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:39.840 out for was it a big elbow? 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:40.040 Right? 1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:41.680 Like a big elbow he ate in close and then 1:01:41.800 --> 1:01:44.560 like that changes the fight. And I feel like in 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.520 his last fight too, uh, he was fighting Alexander Hernandez, 1:01:47.560 --> 1:01:49.160 he wasn't able to kind of get it into his 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:50.840 realm and then he gets knocked out in that fight 1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:52.960 as well. It just seems to me like if you 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:55.320 need if you're going to dictate, if you want to 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:57.000 put the fight where you need it, you need to 1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:58.520 bulk up a little bit. I just feel like he's 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:01.320 not able to get the fight where he wants it. 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:05.280 Yeah, I mean, it's just I agree in general, and 1:02:05.320 --> 1:02:11.000 I think, you know, just working on his athleticism through 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:13.720 training is really I think quite important, both for like 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:19.120 static isometric strength as well as you know, working on reflexes. 1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:21.480 And I mean one of the people always think like, oh, 1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:22.560 being rangy is good. 1:02:22.640 --> 1:02:25.760 Being rangy is good if you know how to use range, But. 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:29.680 If you don't, it's actually like yeah, no, no, no, you know, 1:02:29.800 --> 1:02:32.040 if you but if you're tall and you're not like 1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:34.560 you know, if you're Stephan struving it, you're just gonna 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:35.480 get bombed. 1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:35.760 On, you know. 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:38.640 I mean, he's he's was he twenty six, he's still 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:40.040 very young. He's like, I know, he's in his six, 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:43.960 twenty six years old, and you're like, you can't He's 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:46.200 got time to do what we're talking about. He's got 1:02:46.200 --> 1:02:48.000 time to put some tools together and to get better 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:50.080 into bulk up and to like you know, get gettle 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:52.120 more a little more wily in there, maybe like mix 1:02:52.160 --> 1:02:54.560 things up a little more to fool his guys. But 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:56.840 you know, I always, I always kind of point to 1:02:56.920 --> 1:02:59.080 Charles Oliver, who started very young, and I think he 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:01.000 was I look the up, he was eight four and 1:03:01.040 --> 1:03:03.920 one through thirteen fights. Chase Hoopers thirteen fights in he's 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:06.280 eight and five. If you want to look to guys 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.560 who were able to put stuff together, look to guys 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:12.720 like Charles olivera right who made a crazy career after 1:03:12.760 --> 1:03:14.360 a kind of an inauspicious beginning. 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:15.960 And Chase Hooper's got time. 1:03:16.000 --> 1:03:18.080 I just think he's got to like dedicate himself to 1:03:18.120 --> 1:03:19.720 some aspects of the game and then he, you know, 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:21.760 well get himself a little more well rounded. 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:24.040 Yeah, I would largely agree with that. 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:28.080 Then we have Okay, give me your score for the 1:03:28.240 --> 1:03:31.160 Ricky Simone versus uh Adrian jan Yez fight. 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:34.760 I had Yanez so okay. The first round on this 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:37.520 scorecards is where it all went wacky, right, because I 1:03:37.560 --> 1:03:39.320 had Janaz winning. I thought, I mean, I was a 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:41.480 close round, but I thought it was definitive enough. But 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:43.320 then you see these scorecards and you're like, okay, wait 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:44.880 a minute, this is we're all off on the wrong 1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:47.120 foot here, or at least us who believe that Janas 1:03:47.160 --> 1:03:49.040 was winning the fight. So I either had it twenty 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.360 nine to twenty eight Janaz or twenty nine twenty seven. 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:53.480 If you wanted to give that ten eight at the 1:03:53.560 --> 1:03:56.640 I didn't necessarily think you had to, because the the 1:03:56.640 --> 1:03:59.240 finishing moment came at the very end. It wasn't like 1:03:59.280 --> 1:04:01.360 he had him at death's door for like a minute 1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:03.280 of that fight before it ended or something like that. 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:05.080 So the ten to nine score I would have been 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:08.040 okay with. But either way, Janis wins either twenty nine 1:04:08.080 --> 1:04:10.040 twenty eight or twenty nine twenty seven. 1:04:10.960 --> 1:04:13.320 Yeah, I think twenty nine twenty eight. 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:17.440 I could even see a draw if you to me, 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:20.960 it's one in three Yan Yeas third round ten eight, 1:04:20.960 --> 1:04:22.840 although in one of the cards that only gave him 1:04:22.880 --> 1:04:26.880 ten nine, right, but I could so for me, it's 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:29.960 round two, simone, round three ten eight, Yan, Yes, like, 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:33.800 no question about it. Yeah, question is round one. I 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:36.320 think you can go either way on it. It really 1:04:36.400 --> 1:04:40.040 just depends, but like death, so I don't hate that 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:43.080 it was a draw. The thing that felt unfair was that, 1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:46.160 like by Pride rules, like who won the fight overall 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:49.080 has clearly yan Yas won the fight overall under that. 1:04:49.400 --> 1:04:51.800 That's the Stockton rules as well. That's the way an ideas. 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.000 Uh well, but you know what, it is an interesting 1:04:54.040 --> 1:04:56.080 way of thinking about a fight, like there's you know, 1:04:56.480 --> 1:04:58.640 like dividing it up by rounds and then counting who 1:04:58.640 --> 1:05:01.640 won those without a consideration like you're just judging each 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:04.960 as a individual unit. This has many benefits, but it 1:05:04.960 --> 1:05:09.480 has downsides too because it doesn't capture like that scoring criteria. 1:05:09.560 --> 1:05:13.160 I can't capture the example clear essence of the fight. 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:15.040 And also I'll say this for you, and yes, people 1:05:15.040 --> 1:05:16.400 were kind of burying him, and I was a little 1:05:16.440 --> 1:05:18.560 bit worried too, to be honest with you. But that 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:22.320 was I think, in general, pretty resilient performance from him. 1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:24.120 Especially in the third round. 1:05:24.120 --> 1:05:26.160 It was like suddenly like if there was a lot 1:05:26.240 --> 1:05:28.080 a lack of confidence or maybe a little bit of 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:31.360 a gun shy feeling towards I don't know what, like 1:05:32.040 --> 1:05:33.560 you saw it a little bit in the first round, 1:05:33.880 --> 1:05:35.920 second round certainly like he got kind of nullified. But 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:38.000 that third round, man, he found a rhythm, he found 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:41.080 his range, he was landing, those shots were clean. He 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:43.160 almost puts them away at the end to come in 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:45.400 in the third round and really take it at that point. 1:05:45.480 --> 1:05:48.680 Man, that was I thought that that was eye opening. Yes, 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:49.880 I totally agree. 1:05:49.880 --> 1:05:52.240 So I think he unfortunately does not get the nod, 1:05:52.400 --> 1:05:56.240 but he definitely showed me there's still a little bit 1:05:56.240 --> 1:06:02.440 of gas in that tank for sure. All right, okay, 1:06:03.640 --> 1:06:09.800 what the fuck marching Tybora Tyrrell fortune Man, Chuck, Chuck. 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:13.600 I don't know about old Buffy. Dude. 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:16.040 Buffer might be losing this fastball, y'all. 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:17.560 I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying to kill him, 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:20.680 but this is a great like look at that. Yeah, 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:22.960 I know, man, Ever, since this was. 1:06:22.960 --> 1:06:25.320 Bad, dude, because like the guy left the fucking cage, 1:06:25.320 --> 1:06:26.480 they had to call him. 1:06:26.320 --> 1:06:30.600 Back like that was bad. You know, Bruce has never 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:32.400 been the same. So was it UFC one hundred when 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:34.360 he tore his a cl trying to do the three sixty? 1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:39.520 Remember that? Yes, yes, that was the beginning. 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:42.240 And no, I do you know that's a lot of 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:45.080 shows that that dude, That dude has gone through and uh, 1:06:45.160 --> 1:06:47.520 you would expect some mistakes, but that these types of 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:49.160 mistakes are always so bad, aren't they. 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.120 Again the Long Island you had a story about this 1:06:51.160 --> 1:06:54.680 one too, right, I bet on marching Tya. 1:06:54.880 --> 1:06:57.520 So they they say ty Bora and I'm celebrating, and 1:06:57.600 --> 1:07:01.040 then and then they're just staring at him, and I'm like, oh, 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:02.240 he's waiting for a post fight. 1:07:02.200 --> 1:07:03.800 Interview and they don't want to give him one. 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:07.280 But no if they were waiting to call back Tyrrell Fortune. 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:09.240 So yeah, the whole card was wacky with that. 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:12.439 Yeah, I don't give a fuck about the fight. Although 1:07:12.440 --> 1:07:15.000 I thought Fortune was the rightful winner too, I was like, 1:07:15.080 --> 1:07:15.680 what the fuck? 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.040 The only thing the only thing with him is remember 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:19.760 when he came up and Bellatorre was kind of like 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:22.680 they had signed this pack of wrestlers and we were like, okay, man, 1:07:22.720 --> 1:07:24.520 this is this could be the future. They might have 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:27.280 a bunch of guys. Aaron Pico and these guys that 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:28.880 are going to do something. Stuck him on it, and 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:31.640 it's like they never got out of that prelim mode, 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:35.320 you know, And here we are with this was his debut, right, like, 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:36.960 this was his debut in the UC and. 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:39.560 Still on the prelims. 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:44.680 You know, yes, yes, it's just been insanely strange to 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:49.840 watch that Casey O'Neil gets an absolute barn. We talked 1:07:49.840 --> 1:07:52.480 about the women's of m A side. This was another 1:07:52.560 --> 1:07:58.160 example of that, where Casey O'Neill beating Gabriella Fernandez Fernandez 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:01.800 however you say it properly just bodying her. And this 1:08:01.840 --> 1:08:03.760 is what I love, Chuck, is that you know, I've 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:06.440 been waiting for, like so often these women's fights that 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:09.320 are like you could say, you could say they're competitive 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:10.800 because there are a lot of you know, twenty nine 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:13.920 to twenty eighths or split decisions or whatever. But the 1:08:14.640 --> 1:08:17.080 problem with these fights have been that one of them 1:08:17.160 --> 1:08:20.600 is not effectuating change on the fight, like they're just 1:08:20.720 --> 1:08:22.519 kind of doing a little bit to each other over 1:08:22.520 --> 1:08:25.400 the course of fifteen minutes. Whereas in this one and 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:28.280 certainly in the Comaine right, like they put the fucking 1:08:28.520 --> 1:08:31.120 boot to their opponent. That's what I've been waiting. 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:32.400 To see, you know, you know, And doesn't that like 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:34.519 when you talk about the overall product you know of 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:37.599 a car like a fight night if you get too 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:40.840 crazy finishes in the women's ranks because I fairly or 1:08:40.880 --> 1:08:42.840 unfairly like, you look at those and you're like, okay, 1:08:42.840 --> 1:08:46.360 those may that may be a distance fight, and in 1:08:46.439 --> 1:08:48.840 the prospect of it, you're like, well, you know, these 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:52.200 fights may not be that, they may not stand out, 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:54.400 but they both stood out right like, and I think 1:08:54.439 --> 1:08:56.920 that that's big when you have an event like to 1:08:56.960 --> 1:09:00.600 get unexpected results like that. Cases she's always kind of 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:02.200 been like a you know, a nasty fight. She goes 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:04.519 in there and she wants to throw down. But good 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:05.920 for her to kind of get something that was the 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:07.679 first round, right like that was in the first round. 1:09:07.760 --> 1:09:10.320 So yes, it good for her to kind of, you know, 1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:14.280 showcase that way. I felt like she needed that long island. 1:09:14.280 --> 1:09:17.080 Should I care that Nava host Sterling be Bruno Lopez? 1:09:17.920 --> 1:09:19.400 No, but I did cash the over one and a 1:09:19.439 --> 1:09:22.920 half and Sterling by Ko and that lets go lunches 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:23.679 on on island. 1:09:23.760 --> 1:09:26.160 Yeah, Casey O'Neil got robbed, dude, Casey O'Neil should have 1:09:26.160 --> 1:09:27.320 got the performance bonus. 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:30.000 It's honestly, it's about McKenny, that poor guy. 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:33.280 Sure, Terrence McKinney should have too, you know, I mean no, 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:36.800 but let's be real Terrence wasn't as aesthetically pleasing as 1:09:36.840 --> 1:09:37.439 Casey's was. 1:09:37.520 --> 1:09:39.720 Casey and Grosso should have got the bonuses. They give 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:42.000 it to Joe Pifer, like Joe Pifer, nice win. Wait 1:09:42.040 --> 1:09:46.519 a minute, Grasso didn't get it. No, no, Grasso did. Okay, 1:09:46.560 --> 1:09:48.840 I was like, what but with Joe Pifer and I 1:09:48.840 --> 1:09:50.400 feel you should have gone to both girls. 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:53.160 Fight of the night was Mussaiah Bahamundai's Rifley. So that 1:09:53.200 --> 1:09:54.040 was a banger. 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:56.160 Yeah, it was a good fight, just weird that it 1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:58.960 went the way it did because of laytant cheating. Okay, yeah, 1:09:59.360 --> 1:10:02.080 uh so that What is the UFC Seattle card? Quite 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:03.960 a fun one. Let's go to topic number four. If 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:07.680 we can't hear Chuck pfl Pittsburgh, honestly they had a 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:09.920 great night too. Let's start with that main event. Johnny 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:15.519 Eblin bulldozed Brian Battle. I mean, this was one way traffic. 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:18.439 If ever there was one gets it in the first round, 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:21.639 chokes him from the back. That's the whole show. Let's 1:10:21.640 --> 1:10:25.639 ask though, how redemptive to Eblin stock was this victory? 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:29.240 I thought it was great, Like, we know the dude 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:31.800 is a competitor, like he's gonna be that guy. He's 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:34.080 coming off a loss in which he was kind of 1:10:34.120 --> 1:10:35.960 you know, he was winning that fight. He was when 1:10:35.960 --> 1:10:37.800 he was going and going away until he gets caught 1:10:37.800 --> 1:10:41.519 in the last minute against Costello Vansinaz ends up losing. 1:10:42.320 --> 1:10:43.960 This felt to me like a little bit of a 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:47.000 buzzsaw moment, because if you got a competitor like that, 1:10:47.280 --> 1:10:49.840 they just they pin their ears back and they get 1:10:49.920 --> 1:10:52.439 back to work. And a guy who's wrestled like that 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:54.400 is just like, I'm going back to what works for me. 1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:57.439 And you knew that this was coming, and I think 1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:00.880 that the in that sense, I thought it was fully 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:03.439 redemptive for Eblin to show like, hey man, I am 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:06.000 not going anywhere. I'm still the most dominant middleweight in 1:11:06.040 --> 1:11:09.559 this in this promotion. The more glaringous side of it 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:12.040 was the lack of resistance right from Brian Battle. I 1:11:12.040 --> 1:11:15.120 think that he you know, I talked to him before 1:11:15.200 --> 1:11:17.080 the fight and there was just some there's red flags 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:19.280 with guys who are taking a wrestler like what they 1:11:19.400 --> 1:11:21.400 don't understand that they're kind of going into a buzzsaw 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:23.120 a little bit and they're like, ah, that she's just 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:24.760 a name to me, man. I'm gonna be able to 1:11:24.840 --> 1:11:27.960 do what I do in there, and you're thinking that's 1:11:27.960 --> 1:11:30.760 probably not the right mindset going into this fight, and uh, 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:33.080 and it certainly played out. I actually, when after I 1:11:33.120 --> 1:11:35.240 talked to Brian Battle, I felt pretty convinced that Eblin 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:37.639 would win. I did not think it would look that easy. 1:11:39.479 --> 1:11:42.479 I mean, on Friday's MK, I was I've said it, 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:44.800 you can look it up. It's not that I didn't. 1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:48.200 I wasn't curious about Brian Battle. I was curious, but 1:11:48.240 --> 1:11:51.000 I was not. I was because the fan basic responded 1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:54.120 really favorably to him before he left the UFC in 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:56.040 a way that kind of surprised me. And because they 1:11:56.080 --> 1:11:57.880 were all like, well, you got it. This guy's marching 1:11:57.920 --> 1:11:59.599 people downla blah blah blah. And I'm like, that's true, 1:11:59.680 --> 1:12:03.880 the long jab, powerful puncher, Like again, there's reasons for enthusiasm, 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:07.880 but he hadn't beaten anybody good. And I was like, well, 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:09.120 what the fuck are we doing here? 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:10.479 Yeah? 1:12:09.800 --> 1:12:14.360 Uh, and then he goes up against Evelyn. To your point, 1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:16.560 who's not just a competitor. You know, you could comfortably 1:12:16.560 --> 1:12:19.880 put Eblin in top ten middleweight division of UFC, and 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:22.840 it's just a dogged wrestler. Randy Brown took Battle down 1:12:22.920 --> 1:12:24.760 twice in the first round of their thing. 1:12:24.800 --> 1:12:25.320 I'm like it did. 1:12:25.320 --> 1:12:27.519 If Randy Brown is taking you down like that, I 1:12:27.760 --> 1:12:30.720 fucking Johnny Eblin is going to put you into the woodschipper, 1:12:30.720 --> 1:12:34.240 And that is exactly what he fucking did. So I 1:12:34.280 --> 1:12:37.439 don't you know, you can question the value of the 1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:40.400 win in the sense of Battle is good, but against 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:43.720 this kind of calor of opponent is definitely untested. But 1:12:43.920 --> 1:12:46.160 I'm gonna say I think it's pretty redemptive for Eblin. 1:12:46.240 --> 1:12:51.640 He needed a dominant, good, okay, solid win and he 1:12:51.720 --> 1:12:54.960 got it. And I think that that is clearly he's 1:12:54.960 --> 1:12:57.599 the next guy for Van steinas in a very strange way, 1:12:57.640 --> 1:13:01.840 Brian Battle's you know, kind of trajector because he he 1:13:01.960 --> 1:13:02.880 was like six'. 1:13:02.600 --> 1:13:03.960 One in one or something like that. 1:13:04.000 --> 1:13:07.320 In the UFC misses wait a couple of times, you know, 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:10.200 and the second time as a middleweight, he still comes 1:13:10.200 --> 1:13:12.680 in over and they they part ways, but they were 1:13:12.680 --> 1:13:14.879 trying to book him for the fight that got canceled 1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:18.040 in Chicago. I'm trying to remember the guy they had 1:13:18.120 --> 1:13:20.920 him against, a guy who would have probably exposed Brian 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:23.439 Battle in the exact way that Eblin did, and I 1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:25.559 was kind of when the fight was supposed to happen, 1:13:25.600 --> 1:13:27.960 I thought that was maybe going to be the case. 1:13:28.000 --> 1:13:30.160 It's almost like he got he bought some time though, 1:13:30.400 --> 1:13:32.559 to build up his own cult to personality over that time, 1:13:32.560 --> 1:13:35.120 because he goes over to dirty boxing, stands in there 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:39.360 and is you know, was able to you know, have 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:41.320 some exposure and kind of like land on his feet 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:42.680 and then he ends up in a main event in 1:13:42.720 --> 1:13:45.120 PFL and I kind of felt like what we were saying, 1:13:45.120 --> 1:13:47.280 like obviously this was not a good matchup for him, 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:49.400 but it was like, dude, I don't know if he 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:51.240 was If he if he goes through with that fight 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:53.519 in the UFC, probably none of this happens. It almost 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.120 like bottom this year, like this kind of strange victory 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:57.080 lap over the last year. 1:13:59.240 --> 1:14:01.639 Yeah, it has been kind of weird. Well, that one 1:14:01.680 --> 1:14:05.080 came to a screeching halt. Nevertheless, Brian Battles still good 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:07.320 signing for PFL. I think still can be a part 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:10.040 of some fun fights there. I don't think it's a 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:12.080 bad thing that he's part of that organization. I just 1:14:12.120 --> 1:14:16.960 think Evelyn put out a reminder being like right, I'm 1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:19.160 gonna be able to do things this division that only 1:14:19.200 --> 1:14:22.000 a couple of guys at PFL are gonna be able 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:23.040 to deal with, if at all. 1:14:23.439 --> 1:14:26.120 Rusov, Right, that's that's who the guy that the Long 1:14:26.160 --> 1:14:26.800 Island is supposed to. 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:29.680 Yeah, that was the guy. 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:31.760 I mean, if we didn't find out against Eblin, we're 1:14:31.760 --> 1:14:33.200 gonna find out at that moment, right. 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:35.400 Yeah, exactly, good point. 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:39.519 Uh In Kasanga and I in the comain. I'll tell 1:14:39.560 --> 1:14:44.160 you what, man, look at this photo, bro, look at 1:14:44.160 --> 1:14:47.559 this photo of him just gyrating and cavorting people. 1:14:47.640 --> 1:14:50.000 Yeah, in that in that octagon. 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:56.439 Yeah, he stops fucking a Dalton Rosta in the first 1:14:56.560 --> 1:14:59.240 round just three minutes and eighteen seconds. Dalton Rosta from 1:14:59.280 --> 1:15:03.919 the Pittsburgh area. PFL was in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately, IMPA silenced 1:15:03.960 --> 1:15:07.760 the crowd, which was not great. However, however, I gotta 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:10.320 tell you, dude, Implicasang and I just continues to be 1:15:10.400 --> 1:15:14.320 a part of, like, I don't know, memorable fights, memorable action. 1:15:15.160 --> 1:15:15.360 You know. 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:17.360 So what do they do here with him? Do they 1:15:17.360 --> 1:15:18.880 give him a title shot? What do you think? 1:15:19.160 --> 1:15:21.200 I mean, they've seem to think so on the broadcast, 1:15:21.640 --> 1:15:24.240 I mean, the the Eblin fight like if Evelyn and 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:26.519 obviously he showcased very well, but you're like to put 1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:30.120 him against Costello, right, It's it's an obvious slam dunk. 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:32.200 It's the way the fight down went down. It was 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:35.840 almost cinematic storybook ending for one guy. You give the 1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:37.559 other guy the chance to get it back, but you 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:40.519 do set up the possibility of a trilogy all that stuff. 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.439 I would almost like put that on the back burner. 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.200 You got Castella, like he just went into Spain and 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:49.120 we were talking about this and kind of, you know, 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.679 a tailor made event was able to win against Babe 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:53.840 and Edwards capitalize on that a little bit. I think 1:15:53.840 --> 1:15:55.559 you would have a very fun fight if you were 1:15:55.600 --> 1:15:57.680 to put him against Impa right, Like, I think if 1:15:57.680 --> 1:15:59.439 you put those two guys together, that's a fun fight, 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:02.960 but you still have that Eblin fight in the future. 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:04.840 That would be the way that I would handle it 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:07.320 if I'm the PFL. But it'd be interesting to see 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:09.960 if they just automatically run back. Sometimes you're like, do 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:12.240 you want to be in business with Costello Vansinas who 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:14.360 they took to Spain and they think that they believe 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.240 that he's got a little bit of the you know 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:20.840 that kind of Spanish. You know that that rabid fan 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:22.800 base is like part of what's happening. So they've got 1:16:22.800 --> 1:16:25.960 a guy who represents more than just a champion. Or 1:16:25.960 --> 1:16:27.679 do you want to be in the Eblin business where 1:16:27.800 --> 1:16:29.519 you know they were they've been at Belator was in 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:31.360 it and you're like, well, that's good. He's a very 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:34.760 dominant guy, but maybe not a needle mover. If if 1:16:34.800 --> 1:16:37.160 you're thinking like that, I'm putting him in that in 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:37.840 that title fight. 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:38.719 Hmmm. 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:45.559 Uh Impkasanganai's last UFC fight was against Carlston Harris. Oh wow, 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:50.080 and he lost in the first round. Uh, getting punched 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:52.120 out and then finished off on the ground. It's like, dude, 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:54.320 they rematch today. Who's picking Carlston Harris? 1:16:54.360 --> 1:16:56.840 Nobody? I forgot all about that fight. But that's that's 1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:57.439 good on him. 1:16:57.479 --> 1:16:57.759 Again. 1:16:57.880 --> 1:16:59.680 There are certain guys who go over and they make 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:03.240 the most of their transition, right like they they He's 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:07.920 he'll always be part of that Joquing Buckley, you know 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:10.479 footage forever, the b roll like it's it's going to 1:17:10.479 --> 1:17:12.840 exist forever. But he has been like you said, man, 1:17:13.280 --> 1:17:15.160 there's something about him. You see his name and it's 1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:17.599 it's all, it's not in the it's it almost has 1:17:17.640 --> 1:17:20.120 that feeling of something will happen, right, Like something good, 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:21.960 something wild is going to happen in his fight. 1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:23.600 That's kind of what you want with a guy like that. 1:17:24.160 --> 1:17:24.519 For sure. 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:26.720 With Dalton Rosta, I feel bad, but like it's kind 1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:29.879 of you know, like students of the game pay attention. 1:17:30.479 --> 1:17:33.679 Rasta over commits and Kasanga and I makes him pay 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:36.680 for it positionally with his feet, I mean. And then 1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:39.640 same thing with Macy Barber chucks. She over commits and 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:41.760 then has to get back up a little bit with yourself. 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:42.599 Is it just dunk? 1:17:42.720 --> 1:17:44.680 Is it straight dunked them that they do this like 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:46.479 it's going to be teached out of it, because I 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:47.760 feel like it. 1:17:47.680 --> 1:17:50.640 Can definitely be teached out or taught out. It's just 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:53.080 you got to have the right. I mean, the student has. 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:55.040 To want it and the teacher has to demand it. 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:57.439 And I often find that that's not the case. It 1:17:57.479 --> 1:17:59.439 isn't boxing, but it's not the case in MMA. You 1:17:59.479 --> 1:18:01.800 gotta remember, though, like it's a tough thing to do. 1:18:02.840 --> 1:18:08.880 Pressure in MMA yields so many rewards that getting people 1:18:08.960 --> 1:18:12.639 to not pressure is hard, Like pressuring just the right amount. 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:15.720 It's actually much more difficult than it looks. Uh, and 1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:18.519 so that's why these guys just jump into range, you 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:21.120 know what I mean, because it seems like it's forcefull 1:18:21.160 --> 1:18:23.920 and it's immediate, but it's also just reckless against somebody 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:25.240 who can punch your LIFs. 1:18:25.240 --> 1:18:26.679 Did you think you'd fare better better? 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:29.000 I mean, like when you the promotion risks something, when 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:30.519 they're like, all right, you're from Pittsburgh, gonna put you 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:33.840 on a comin event against a guy who's could like 1:18:34.080 --> 1:18:36.479 silence the room, and I mean everybody kind of knew that. 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:39.479 Did you think that it would be a closer fight 1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:40.280 than it ended up being? 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:44.000 Yes, I still would have favored Kasank and I what 1:18:44.080 --> 1:18:45.599 were the pre fight odds on that one? 1:18:45.600 --> 1:18:46.400 Long aland do you know. 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:50.080 Yeah, Dalton was like a minus one eighty five inpo 1:18:50.240 --> 1:18:52.520 was like plus one fifty. 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:57.080 Yeah, Rosta was coming in off of a fucking loss. 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:57.280 You know. 1:18:57.680 --> 1:18:59.920 Yeah, I thought I thought that it would be kind 1:18:59.920 --> 1:19:01.640 of a back and forth fight, like you'd see some 1:19:01.800 --> 1:19:04.240 fireworks both ways, just guy fighting, no someter, But it 1:19:04.320 --> 1:19:06.800 ended up being you're we were talking about the you know, 1:19:08.080 --> 1:19:11.760 craziest women fights. Reminded me of the Jessica eye when 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:13.800 she got knocked out. Wasn't that in Cleveland? I feel 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:15.560 like it was in Cleveland she fought Valentino, but I 1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.960 could be wrong about that. But wherever it was, it 1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:20.479 shut the like it was like it was more of 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.360 like a oh my god, what did I just see 1:19:22.360 --> 1:19:23.360 when jess guy went down? 1:19:23.360 --> 1:19:24.479 After that headgag? 1:19:25.520 --> 1:19:28.639 The rest of the card maybe up to your interest. 1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:35.639 Josh Fremmed got a very nice stoppage over Al Salawe. 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.000 I'm not sure to say his first name, so there's 1:19:38.040 --> 1:19:39.800 some interesting moments on that one. I will say that 1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:42.000 this young up and coming twenty four year old prospect 1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:44.720 Alexei Paragonde pra Gone. I'm not sure he pronounced his name. 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:47.639 I gotta start watching these broadcasts with the volume up. Yeah, 1:19:47.760 --> 1:19:52.120 he'd beat Arse Arse arguably made a run back in 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:55.479 the third round, but nevertheless of twenty four at eight, No, no, 1:19:55.560 --> 1:19:57.400 it's a pretty good win by him. 1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:00.600 Are you have two TV set up? Like? Or is 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:00.960 all of it? 1:20:00.960 --> 1:20:03.680 Because I went from the UFC over to PFL and 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:05.320 it was kind of already on the comain, but I 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:06.599 didn't have two TV setups. 1:20:06.640 --> 1:20:08.040 I had to watch it after the fact because I 1:20:08.080 --> 1:20:10.160 went out to my post fight show, so I was 1:20:10.160 --> 1:20:11.880 actually I was getting updates. 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:14.400 About it when I was doing Diligent. I know, well, 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:17.559 gotta make that money, you know what I'm saying. Very 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.120 quickly before we go to topic number five, Let's talk 1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:22.439 about our good friends at I got it right here. 1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:24.560 How about this Clervo. 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:28.519 Yes, April eighth, you can join us again in studio. 1:20:28.640 --> 1:20:31.000 It's going to be a fun ass time April eighth. 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:36.120 That's right when we get ready for UFC three twenty seven. 1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:39.519 From face off to final decision, Fight Night delivers the 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:42.720 adrenaline and Quervo the energy to match it. Whether you're 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:45.559 hosting your crew at home or catching the action at 1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:48.439 a bar, Quervo brings the good vibes that turn every 1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:53.120 round into a celebration. 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So one of 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:34.599 my favorite results this weekend, I mean, Moses e Tama 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:38.080 just absolutely sending. You could see it here, Jermaine Franklin 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:43.240 to the fucking Land of Winding ghosts, twenty one years old, dude, 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:47.519 true or false, chuck in either MMA or boxing, Moses 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:50.479 Etama is the most exciting thing in heavyweight combat sports. 1:21:51.280 --> 1:21:54.559 Oh man, I mean we've still got marchenz Heborah. Let 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:55.240 me thank here. 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:57.240 No, I mean, come on, in the UFC, it's like 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:02.080 in the UFC, there's nobody right now who's matching this. 1:22:02.200 --> 1:22:04.639 And honestly, in boxing, when you get a young dude 1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:07.440 like this, I mean I hate them. Mike Tyson references 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:09.760 to stuff like this. But you see an uppercut from 1:22:09.760 --> 1:22:12.000 a twenty one year old guy, does it not remind 1:22:12.000 --> 1:22:14.040 you of before? Trevor Burberck, like kind of the the 1:22:14.080 --> 1:22:16.880 Marvin Frasier type. The guys he was just knocking out 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:19.280 before he got to that moment, and you're like, this 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:24.000 dude is coming. That's exciting. When you see young guys 1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:27.040 do this, it's always very exciting. And dude, look at 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:29.080 that knockout, the spray that comes off of him, and 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:31.799 just the stagger. I mean, lile, what look at this boom. 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:35.479 It's almost like you see the ghosts come out. But uh, 1:22:35.600 --> 1:22:39.320 it's that's just that's phenomenal stuff he uses. Even in 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:42.599 the Dillian White right league, he's he's he uses his 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:46.679 spotlight really well, the little the escalation and talent stuff 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.360 on guys he's face and who should give him more 1:22:48.360 --> 1:22:49.519 problems and they're not at all. 1:22:50.080 --> 1:22:53.400 That's exciting stuff. Man. Yeah, he sets up shots. 1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:56.080 You know, he takes his time, he picks his punches, 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:57.640 but he's fast, he's athletic. 1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:00.800 Holy shit, boys like he just looks like it's not 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:03.840 even bothered by it. You know, he's ready for the moment. 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:07.680 He looked incredible. All right, let's go to what our 1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:11.080 friend of the show, Brian Campbell, was commentating this weekend. 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:14.720 Sebastian Fundora basically stops Keith Thurman, I believe a six 1:23:14.840 --> 1:23:18.680 round stoppage and not it didn't just stop. It mean, 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:21.560 this is basically a pretty good indication this is the 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:26.040 final sequence obviously, Chuck. But like it was, I mean, 1:23:26.479 --> 1:23:30.360 Thurman got bombed on here. This was you know, kind 1:23:30.360 --> 1:23:32.040 of hard to watch, to be honest with you, a 1:23:32.040 --> 1:23:34.200 little bit, at least at least the last couple of 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:36.280 rounds when it was starting to go real fucking. 1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:36.720 Bad for him. 1:23:37.160 --> 1:23:40.799 Has Sebastian Fundora, who looks like a gigantic praying mantis. 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:45.000 He does, Man, is he convinced you to take him seriously? 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:46.400 Now? I think so. 1:23:46.600 --> 1:23:49.080 Man, it was a six foot six at one hundred 1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:51.840 and fifty four like fighting it. Yes, it's just it's 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:54.320 such a it's a it's a bizarre a praying mantis 1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:56.799 is exactly what I say it. But man, he he's 1:23:56.840 --> 1:23:59.599 he's in there now, and there are fun fights. Did 1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:01.479 you just see it looks like they just made the 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:05.120 Boots Zayas fight by the way, Yeah, yes, no oh, 1:24:05.200 --> 1:24:06.560 I mean I was actually gonna say, like one of 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:08.479 those types of fighters might be a lot of fun 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:11.800 for him, But but that fight's a great one too. 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:13.600 I'm not taking anyway away. I think that that's a 1:24:13.680 --> 1:24:16.760 very fun fight. I think that you should take Fundora 1:24:16.880 --> 1:24:19.040 the serious. I mean, it's it's fun to You've got 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:22.840 like the sibling between him and his sister, kind of 1:24:22.880 --> 1:24:25.760 ruling two sides of the boxing world. And yeah, man, 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:27.679 I'm looking forward to seeing more from this kid. 1:24:28.800 --> 1:24:30.840 I thought he was great. The only thing that wasn't 1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:32.240 so great was after the fight. I don't know if 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:36.120 you saw this, he basically was like, you know, I'll 1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:39.000 fight anyone, but you know he's going to prioritize a 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:45.719 PBC opponent. And it's like, dude, Fundora is I believe 1:24:45.800 --> 1:24:51.400 the regular, like the normal WBC champion. Virgil Ortiz is 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:55.439 the interim one right of the same weight class, same 1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:57.320 sanctioning org. And he's like, oh, I don't want to 1:24:57.320 --> 1:24:58.719 fight Virgul because he's not PBC. 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:04.360 And it's like, I'm like, boxers, this is the worst time. 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:06.080 I mean, it's a little late now. I suppose maybe 1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:07.040 it doesn't matter anymore. 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:10.479 But like while they're going through Congress to get laws 1:25:10.520 --> 1:25:13.360 rewritten about how this shit's gonna go, these guys are like, yeah, 1:25:13.400 --> 1:25:15.120 I still don't want to fight outside of people in 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:15.960 my organization. 1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:18.439 You're you guys, you deserve what's coming to you, you 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:18.840 know what I mean. 1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:22.559 Also, such a buzzkill on the microphone to do that, 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:24.760 like you're like, dude, just let people believe that it 1:25:24.840 --> 1:25:26.680 might happen at least, why you don't have to express that, 1:25:26.720 --> 1:25:32.000 you know, Yeah, just lie to us. That is the 1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:33.720 fight to make. That is the fight to make. Now 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:35.320 that the other guys, yeah. 1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:38.360 Arvin sar Yuki in side Quest Chuck, they keep yielding 1:25:38.400 --> 1:25:39.120 good results. 1:25:39.240 --> 1:25:40.639 He wins nine to three. 1:25:40.479 --> 1:25:43.719 Over Georgia o'poulis, and he gets watch here, he's gonna 1:25:43.720 --> 1:25:46.479 pinch him down right here, and then he's gonna go 1:25:46.520 --> 1:25:48.560 to the back and scoop around and here comes a 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:51.439 four point throw boom. So he closed it out. He 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:53.800 was five to three and that made it nine to three. 1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:57.040 He wins the rivalry. I don't know, you still enjoying 1:25:57.040 --> 1:25:58.040 these What do they do for you? 1:25:58.720 --> 1:26:00.800 I mean, I am, but it's like it's it's kind 1:26:00.800 --> 1:26:03.479 of new. I've told you before, you know you. I 1:26:03.560 --> 1:26:06.160 confess I don't watch a ton like I should watch 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:08.559 the n C Double A's as they're kind of happening. 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:10.960 I know you you check in on those, I just 1:26:11.000 --> 1:26:13.160 don't do it. So even the scoring and stuff like 1:26:13.200 --> 1:26:16.479 what we're what we're looking at, especially tactically, I'm like, 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:18.479 you know, I don't know what everything that's going on. 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:20.880 But dude, when he makes that and it's a four 1:26:20.960 --> 1:26:23.639 point and it's in a fairly close match at that point, 1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.599 and it brings the house alive. I mean that's kind 1:26:26.640 --> 1:26:28.240 of fun, isn't it. Like I thought it was a 1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:32.760 cool moment. RAF puts on good shows. Yeah, Yeah, their 1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:37.679 matchmakers are clever there. I really like their products. Yeah, 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:39.760 and they got like a big show. Their next one 1:26:39.840 --> 1:26:42.880 is like Morob is on it and uh in Philadelphia. 1:26:42.880 --> 1:26:45.320 I mean, it's just I love to see these guys 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:49.120 kind of thrown into the You It's it's kind of 1:26:49.120 --> 1:26:52.040 a reverse way of looking at wrestling, like you see 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:54.280 it filtered in through MMA and then you're like, okay, wait, 1:26:54.320 --> 1:26:56.280 now let's just strip it down to its essence and 1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:57.400 watch these guys that I'm at. 1:26:57.520 --> 1:26:59.280 It's kind of fun to do it this way. It 1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:00.360 certainly is. Uh. 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:03.920 Colby Covington gets the win over Dylan Danis. Here's the 1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:06.479 end of it via tech Fall. For folks who don't 1:27:06.479 --> 1:27:09.240 know what tech Fall is that basically means mercy rule 1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:13.600 when you just absolutely I mean it's twelve at the 1:27:13.680 --> 1:27:15.679 n C douable as I forget what it was for Raf, 1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:19.400 but you know, look at this, he's gonna he's gonna 1:27:19.400 --> 1:27:21.960 turn him here. This is called a gut wrench right there, boom, 1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:25.760 you know, just just beating the bags off of him. 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:27.720 He just ran out of gas. And it seemed like 1:27:27.720 --> 1:27:30.080 that like he didn't have the stamina to it's. I mean, 1:27:30.080 --> 1:27:33.519 he started off, it started off a little more competitive, 1:27:33.520 --> 1:27:34.920 but just as it went on, it felt like he 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:35.880 had nothing for Kobe. 1:27:36.240 --> 1:27:38.519 Yeah, well, these guys who've been wrestling since they were 1:27:38.600 --> 1:27:40.719 my daughter's age, you know, they've just got a certain 1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:44.120 level of comfortability with it all. And it was hilarious, 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:46.200 like chill Son and asked these questions and then Colby 1:27:46.240 --> 1:27:49.240 did a chaill Son and on him where he answers, 1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:51.640 not the question he was asked, just whatever he wanted to, 1:27:51.720 --> 1:27:53.080 like make it a focus. 1:27:52.720 --> 1:27:56.720 On you know, Chie could appreciate that he better. 1:27:56.560 --> 1:27:58.719 He's the one who did it, you know in MMA. Anyway, 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:02.080 all right, that's our five. What a great weekend. With 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:04.040 that in mind, let's go to our segment. Where you 1:28:04.080 --> 1:28:17.559 get to ask us questions. It's time for dms from dogs. Yeah, 1:28:18.800 --> 1:28:21.000 that's the first thing you hear before the police come 1:28:21.040 --> 1:28:24.120 out and say this is a prostitution bust, all right? 1:28:25.120 --> 1:28:29.000 Topic number one from Perk three thousands, three thousand. 1:28:29.040 --> 1:28:29.479 Excuse me. 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:32.360 I understand the fans calling for Iszzy to retire, not 1:28:32.439 --> 1:28:35.400 wanting to see him lose another fight, But other than that, 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:38.040 why should he He gets paid a couple million every fight. 1:28:38.360 --> 1:28:40.080 He does not get paid a couple million every fight, 1:28:40.160 --> 1:28:42.599 let me fucking assure you. And this is the thing 1:28:42.680 --> 1:28:44.800 he loves to do most in this world. It's not 1:28:44.840 --> 1:28:48.040 like he's getting destroyed as he is, like Tony Ferguson 1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:50.120 was on his way out. If he wants to keep 1:28:50.160 --> 1:28:52.960 going and this isn't taking serious damage, why not. Every 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:55.920 part of the premise of this question is wrong. He 1:28:55.960 --> 1:28:58.720 doesn't make two million a fight and he is getting destroyed. 1:28:59.080 --> 1:29:01.559 Yeah, it's a tough thing. 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:03.840 I mean, we covered this pretty addnuging, but like it's 1:29:03.880 --> 1:29:07.000 just it's a tough thing, right. I don't know why. 1:29:09.120 --> 1:29:11.280 I guess I just don't like the open endedness of 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:11.960 what he's doing. 1:29:12.160 --> 1:29:13.000 I don't really love that. 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:16.240 You guys, got to kick me out, Like I there's 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:19.080 something about his comportment and his makeup that I feel 1:29:19.120 --> 1:29:21.600 like I should know better than that. Maybe he's just 1:29:21.640 --> 1:29:24.240 saying it, but I'm like, I don't like that kind 1:29:24.240 --> 1:29:26.800 of mentality. When a guy doesn't seem to be meeting 1:29:26.800 --> 1:29:28.559 the standard of who's standing in front of him. 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:32.840 It's it's it's it's it's amazing that people would think 1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:36.439 in a non title main event, he's making two million dollars, 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:43.519 No fucking chance that's true. That's probably three or four 1:29:43.600 --> 1:29:44.920 times what he's actually getting. 1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:48.160 That's an insane thing, I think. Yeah. 1:29:48.200 --> 1:29:50.360 But the the other part too, is like, Okay, is 1:29:50.360 --> 1:29:54.240 he getting abused like Tony Ferguson was getting abused against 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:58.479 Justin Gachee. No, he's not getting that, but that's what's next. 1:29:58.560 --> 1:30:00.320 You keep going, and that's what's going to happen. 1:30:00.439 --> 1:30:02.000 You can't get out of the way the punches, man. 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:04.040 Yeah, And the other part two is like, dude, like 1:30:04.080 --> 1:30:06.759 getting battered like he did, Like maybe his nose got broken. 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:08.640 I don't know, but I'm saying just the punch is 1:30:08.800 --> 1:30:11.760 like he took generally, Dude, these these are gonna fuck 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:13.680 your life up if you take enough of them, like 1:30:15.080 --> 1:30:16.760 looking at this and thinking, oh, this is the thing 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:19.360 you can just he's treating it like the question was like, 1:30:19.800 --> 1:30:22.280 you know, it's like playing pickleball, Like you know, he's 1:30:22.360 --> 1:30:24.360 everything's fine. We're just you know, hitting the ball out 1:30:24.360 --> 1:30:28.440 in the old pickleball court. Dude, this is not fucking pickleball, 1:30:28.680 --> 1:30:29.240 tru man. 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:30.960 He used to have a little bit more of It's 1:30:31.000 --> 1:30:35.360 just like a spring springy evasiveness, so he could just 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:37.799 kind of get out of the way. And once that goes, 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:40.479 it just changes everything, you know. And so like there 1:30:40.560 --> 1:30:42.200 was one, I know, there was one big punch. I 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:44.680 think it was a right hand that Piper landed. That 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:46.720 was pretty telegraphed, and I mean it was just it 1:30:46.800 --> 1:30:49.280 was just standing there and then just telegraphed and and 1:30:49.280 --> 1:30:51.840 it connects full of connects, and you're like, that's just 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:53.200 not a punch he would have gotten. 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:54.120 Hit with earlier in his career. 1:30:54.600 --> 1:31:00.519 All right, Question number two from pursue uh or no 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:04.920 excuse me, per uh, per use dreams uh or whatever 1:31:04.920 --> 1:31:06.760 the per us dreams, whatever the fuck? 1:31:06.760 --> 1:31:08.920 Who cares? What are your. 1:31:08.840 --> 1:31:12.000 Thoughts on the AI slow. I'm so glad someone asked 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:14.799 about this. What are your thoughts on the AI slop 1:31:14.960 --> 1:31:19.120 argument from Dana or lack thereof Just shut the fuck 1:31:19.240 --> 1:31:22.240 up and watch the fights our Dana's thoughts. By the way, 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:23.880 Let's let me set this up for the audience, Chuck, 1:31:23.880 --> 1:31:27.120 if they didn't see it. Someone in the postfight press 1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:29.439 conference asked Dana White about, Hey, some of the fans 1:31:29.439 --> 1:31:33.519 are upset that you guys are using AI to generate 1:31:33.680 --> 1:31:35.960 you know, some of these graphics or images that you're 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:39.320 using for you know, both the television broadcast but beyond 1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:42.639 that as well. And Dana first of all didn't understand 1:31:42.640 --> 1:31:44.559 the question, like what's the problem, And then someone had 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:46.800 to explain to hims like they're using AI, and his 1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:50.880 response was, here's my response, shut the fuck up to 1:31:50.960 --> 1:31:52.879 the fans and watch the fights. 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:56.479 What do you think, Chuck, Well, you did have a 1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:58.760 good night of fights, so you understand. Like he's like, Hey, 1:31:58.760 --> 1:32:00.240 why are we talking about this. We just said that 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:02.519 we finally have the best night of twenty twenty six 1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:04.080 with on paramount plus. 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.320 Yeah, the same made it worse. Here we are talking 1:32:06.320 --> 1:32:07.960 about made it worse. 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:14.040 And I'm like that Unfortunately, anything that feels cheap or 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:16.920 lazy is going to glare at you, and especially in 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:19.320 a new era like where you think they're going to 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:21.559 go the extra mile to do these things. I noticed 1:32:21.560 --> 1:32:23.200 it right away, did you. Like when you're watching it, 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:25.680 you're like, wait, what is this? I mean, it's just 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:28.360 like anything like you go see a you seem like 1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:30.280 a man of taste, So like you would probably rather 1:32:30.360 --> 1:32:32.599 watch a think piece of a movie at the limity 1:32:32.680 --> 1:32:40.920 theater rather than like some you know, explosion CGI type movie. 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:43.479 You might you would choose that, And I feel like 1:32:43.520 --> 1:32:45.639 that's kind of the cheapening effect of something like that. 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:49.360 Come on, man, have something you have, like you have 1:32:49.880 --> 1:32:52.519 the monopoly on the sport, like it puts some effort 1:32:52.520 --> 1:32:55.120 into it. I'm maybe I'm nitpicking, but that's why it 1:32:55.120 --> 1:32:55.599 feels to. 1:32:55.560 --> 1:32:57.519 Me, like, dude, just think about something for a second. Like, 1:32:57.760 --> 1:33:00.519 you know, Dana White makes probably a lot of money. 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.240 Does he make as much money as like the McDonald's 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:07.360 CEO or something like that, right, Like, yeah, maybe it's 1:33:07.400 --> 1:33:09.360 maybe it's on par maybe it's even a little bit more, 1:33:09.360 --> 1:33:11.479 but you know, like the McDonald's CEO is a pretty 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:16.559 well compensated position, right, tens of millions probably a per annual. Yeah, 1:33:16.600 --> 1:33:21.160 could you imagine the McDonald's CEO responding to someone saying 1:33:21.200 --> 1:33:23.840 something about how his product is a little lazy, and 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:26.439 him responding, shut the fuck up and eat the fries. 1:33:27.200 --> 1:33:28.479 Can you imagine something like that? 1:33:28.520 --> 1:33:30.800 The reason why you can't imagine it, even though that's 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:33.679 a huge company and they have a big market share 1:33:34.280 --> 1:33:36.280 and the owner, I should say that the owner, but 1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:39.439 the president of the McDonald's or the CEO makes a 1:33:39.439 --> 1:33:45.080 lot of money, is that it would be automatically ruinous 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:48.840 for any brand that still has to answer to their customers. 1:33:49.640 --> 1:33:53.200 This is the kind of thing that not even a 1:33:53.280 --> 1:33:57.960 fucking power company, an electric fucking company says to you 1:33:58.160 --> 1:34:01.439 about your fucking bill, even and they don't do it. 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:06.599 I want everyone to understand, Yeah, this is the problem 1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:08.559 with the UFC, and it's been the people like, oh, 1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:14.600 it's the Paramount Era, it's Hunter Campbell. It's monopoly everyone. 1:34:14.760 --> 1:34:20.080 It is fucking time to stop blaming Paramount or Hunter 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:23.680 Campbell or whoever the fuck it is monopoly. 1:34:24.040 --> 1:34:27.759 They don't, they know it. They know they. 1:34:27.560 --> 1:34:32.120 Don't owe you shit, and they there's nothing short of 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:35.200 just leaving the shit completely alone that you can do 1:34:35.320 --> 1:34:39.919 about it. And they fucking know it. That's the fucking problem. 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:43.880 Well said man, It's true. It drives me fucking crazy. 1:34:44.000 --> 1:34:47.599 You know what's crazy is even us talking about it 1:34:47.640 --> 1:34:49.960 and pointing this out, like you know, there's a there 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:53.000 is such a knee jerk fan reaction from certain fans 1:34:53.040 --> 1:34:55.640 who are who are being talked to that way, that 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:58.200 will be like dude Dane's worries that because you know, 1:34:58.360 --> 1:35:01.040 they're just gonna defend it anyway it does. That's the 1:35:01.479 --> 1:35:03.760 craziest thing. There's certain dogs beneath the hail who liked 1:35:03.760 --> 1:35:04.240 the abuse. 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:08.200 Yeah yeah, Oh, dude Dana told us to go fuck ourselves. 1:35:08.200 --> 1:35:12.360 Hell yeah, he's so cool for that. You know. It's like, dude, 1:35:12.400 --> 1:35:13.679 you ate paint as a kid. 1:35:13.760 --> 1:35:16.040 I can just tell bro, you don't have any sense 1:35:16.040 --> 1:35:18.160 of self whatsoever. And then the other part two here 1:35:18.240 --> 1:35:19.880 chuck last thing on this and we'll move on. But 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:22.719 the other part two is it's like part of listen. 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:25.920 I use AI at times as a way because I 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:29.360 just don't happen twenty four hours in a day to 1:35:29.400 --> 1:35:31.080 be able to do all of the things I want 1:35:31.160 --> 1:35:33.200 with the kind of manicured process, with all the things 1:35:33.240 --> 1:35:35.439 I've got going on, I just don't have the ability 1:35:35.520 --> 1:35:36.880 to do that, but I try to. 1:35:37.520 --> 1:35:39.040 I gave up my chat GPT account. 1:35:39.080 --> 1:35:41.800 I only use Anthropic, you know, So I try, and 1:35:41.920 --> 1:35:43.960 there's no responsible to choice, but I feel like that's 1:35:43.960 --> 1:35:46.519 a better one than open AI. And I try to 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:48.439 be very very limiting in the ways in which I 1:35:48.520 --> 1:35:50.519 use it, either for research or to help up with 1:35:50.560 --> 1:35:53.479 thumbnails on my political channel, because I just don't have 1:35:53.520 --> 1:35:56.120 time to sit there and make them, and so there 1:35:56.160 --> 1:35:58.439 can be use cases for it, and I try to 1:35:58.560 --> 1:36:00.320 lean into those, and I try to be my full 1:36:00.360 --> 1:36:04.000 of it for any number of reasons. But like the 1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:06.520 UFC just signed a seven point seven. 1:36:06.360 --> 1:36:07.759 Billion dollar deal. 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:11.080 They could easily afford the kinds of teams that they 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:14.240 need to be able to make stuff that looks really 1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:17.960 great on camera. They're just doing it cheaply. And it's 1:36:18.040 --> 1:36:21.479 like this is emblematic of everything. You're giving us a 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:26.599 worse product because you're cost cutting and. 1:36:26.240 --> 1:36:28.320 We're all poorer for it. 1:36:28.640 --> 1:36:32.040 For then Dana to be like, go fuck yourselves, it's 1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:37.000 like it's like, dude, they don't customers understand. They don't 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:41.040 give a fuck about your opinion because they know you 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:45.760 can't do shit about it. That's the truth. A man, right, 1:36:45.880 --> 1:36:49.720 it's true, all right. Topic question number three, you don't know, 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:53.000 Tyler says, is it time for UFC to change out 1:36:53.040 --> 1:36:55.680 commentary teams more frequently? 1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:58.240 Do we need to rotate shock? What do you think? 1:36:58.560 --> 1:37:01.200 I mean, they already rotate obviously. Do you ever go back? 1:37:01.240 --> 1:37:02.800 Like I you know, you go on the fight pass, 1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:05.759 which I love because you can go watch old fights 1:37:06.640 --> 1:37:10.120 and just get a sense of whatever happened and or 1:37:10.240 --> 1:37:10.759 just revisit. 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:13.040 But like you get Mike Goldberg and he's just like, 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:14.799 that's it's. 1:37:14.720 --> 1:37:16.760 Hard to be a rock star, right, well, you know, 1:37:16.880 --> 1:37:19.160 or something like that, right when Ronda Rousey's getting knocked 1:37:19.160 --> 1:37:20.880 out and you're like, oh my god, every's panicking and 1:37:20.920 --> 1:37:22.240 he's like throwing out. 1:37:22.680 --> 1:37:25.080 It has gotten so much better from those days. 1:37:25.120 --> 1:37:27.200 We don't realize it because you just kind of watch 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:29.439 it in a linear way and you just keep going. 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:34.320 But it's so much better than the old days. Yet 1:37:34.360 --> 1:37:38.120 I understand the question. I understand the concern because there 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:41.280 are times where the booth gets almost a little too giddy, 1:37:41.479 --> 1:37:43.479 where they just go off on these little side johnts, 1:37:44.120 --> 1:37:48.120 and that can be fun, but when it becomes too fun, 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:50.280 like where it becomes a little too loosey goosey. There's 1:37:50.360 --> 1:37:52.080 times that that bothers me. I don't know why. 1:37:52.360 --> 1:37:54.920 Like it's usually a Cormier booth, you know, where he's 1:37:54.960 --> 1:37:57.200 just laughing and having a good time and talking about 1:37:57.240 --> 1:37:58.920 something a little bit. That's cool. 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:02.160 But there's there's all also, I don't know there's a 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:03.960 great jew at all. Like there's just times where I'm like, 1:38:04.000 --> 1:38:05.599 come on, guys, stay on point here a little bit, 1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:06.200 you know. 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:09.360 I think that we got like you got to be 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:12.680 kind of precise about the criticism. First of all, I 1:38:12.880 --> 1:38:17.519 feel like the play by play side that UFC has 1:38:17.680 --> 1:38:22.640 is super strong. Yes, so that'd be John Annick, Brendan Fitzgerald, 1:38:22.720 --> 1:38:24.679 John Gooden, and even Dan Helly. 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:27.639 I'd throw in there as well. Yeah, yeah, they're all good. 1:38:27.720 --> 1:38:30.040 And John Anna keeps everything on point. Like the thing 1:38:30.080 --> 1:38:32.280 I'm talking about, he'll reel it in. He'll he'll know 1:38:32.320 --> 1:38:34.960 when it's going too far like the I don't. 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:37.760 I just don't have any meaningful criticism about that side 1:38:37.760 --> 1:38:39.679 of the Ledger at all. To me, the real problems 1:38:39.720 --> 1:38:43.280 are on the color side. I think Paul Felder's good. 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:47.639 I think Laura Senko is good. I recognize that there 1:38:47.720 --> 1:38:49.800 are limits because you know, DC can get a little 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:53.479 bit giggly with Rogan. That's not a great combo. But 1:38:53.720 --> 1:38:56.160 in general, especially when he's really leaning into the wrestling, 1:38:56.240 --> 1:38:59.120 when DC is focused and talking about technique, I love 1:38:59.160 --> 1:38:59.880 his commentary. 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:03.040 Yeah, you know, Cruise, he's just I feel like he's 1:39:03.040 --> 1:39:05.200 really up on what's happening. Like I'm not trying to. 1:39:05.520 --> 1:39:07.679 I know, it's a big workload. Man, They're running shows 1:39:07.680 --> 1:39:09.960 every week and there's seven hour shows. It's a lot 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:11.640 of fights, it's a lot of knowledge you have to 1:39:11.680 --> 1:39:14.800 carry around from week to week. Sure, so you have 1:39:14.880 --> 1:39:16.720 to give him some grace on this, but I do 1:39:16.840 --> 1:39:19.800 sometimes I'm like, you know, I don't know, maybe the 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:21.920 like the research part of it could be stronger, and 1:39:22.040 --> 1:39:24.080 you know, not just with DC. 1:39:24.160 --> 1:39:26.800 I'm saying like in general, Uh, there's there's some of that, 1:39:27.280 --> 1:39:28.439 and there's some other ones in there. 1:39:28.439 --> 1:39:29.920 Like you know, I'm not going to go through all 1:39:29.960 --> 1:39:32.479 of them, but you know, I like most of what 1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:37.519 I I just feel like they haven't they kiss coming 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:39.360 up and I think they're still trying to get him. Yeah, 1:39:39.400 --> 1:39:41.760 you know, some reps, I feel like they need to 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:44.920 be a little bit more aggressive with trying out some 1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:47.440 other names, but they'd like to keep their guys. 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:50.639 So I agree with you, Dominic Cruz, Paul Felder. 1:39:50.720 --> 1:39:55.000 Those types of guys really do a great job if 1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:57.519 you were just like kind of towing that line between 1:39:57.560 --> 1:39:59.640 the aficionado who's watched a lot of fights and the 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:01.600 person who hasn't watched a lot of fights, kind of 1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:03.680 given you the basis of what you're looking at, you know, 1:40:04.080 --> 1:40:08.639 and it's especially certain setups, and you know where why 1:40:08.720 --> 1:40:11.240 it's why it's effective. But whatever it is, they do 1:40:11.280 --> 1:40:13.439 a very good job of toying that line, and that 1:40:13.439 --> 1:40:14.920 that to me, is very good commentary. 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:18.680 It's good to the next question, This is from v 1:40:18.920 --> 1:40:22.920 Sanchez Underscore eighty eight Well Long Island. Luke ever do 1:40:23.040 --> 1:40:26.439 a fan edition? Oh, prop quiz Long Island. 1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:29.559 I'm not against this, not against this whatsoever. 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:32.719 The problem being is that obviously I cater every topic 1:40:32.800 --> 1:40:35.120 to the guests, and like if a random fan is 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:37.360 doing it, I obviously know nothing about this fan. So 1:40:37.400 --> 1:40:39.639 maybe if I come up with just some generic topics, 1:40:39.960 --> 1:40:41.759 I'd be into it. But I definitely need to broaden 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:43.880 the contestants. We need to bring more people in. So 1:40:44.560 --> 1:40:45.680 anyone seeing this hit me on. 1:40:46.040 --> 1:40:47.720 He's like, I'll take any fan as long as they're 1:40:47.760 --> 1:40:50.080 celebrity and they're gonna bring a lot of traffic to myself, as. 1:40:50.000 --> 1:40:56.280 Long as Brian and your wife. Yeah, all right, last, 1:40:56.280 --> 1:40:59.080 but not least, that's the best one I know. Question 1:40:59.160 --> 1:41:00.080 for five, do you do. 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:03.760 You have any April any funny April Fool stories? No, 1:41:03.880 --> 1:41:05.000 I'm not a fucking idiot. 1:41:05.400 --> 1:41:08.880 No. I mean, do you remember, though, who was it? 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:09.280 The dude? 1:41:09.280 --> 1:41:11.400 Like, there was fighters. There were a couple of fighters, 1:41:11.400 --> 1:41:13.200 and they were bad. They were in really bad taste. 1:41:13.240 --> 1:41:18.160 They when Twitter became a thing and they would he's 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:21.320 out say yeah, or they they'd be like, my fight 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:24.000 is canceled or whatever, and you'll be like, it's news outlets, 1:41:24.000 --> 1:41:24.479 whitn't you know? 1:41:24.479 --> 1:41:26.280 They would almost be trying to run with this, and 1:41:26.280 --> 1:41:28.360 then they'd be like, no, it's all a joke. You know. 1:41:28.960 --> 1:41:32.759 There's been some bad ones. April fool, I'm not fools 1:41:32.840 --> 1:41:34.680 is for dullards, just straight up. You can you can 1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:37.439 quote me on that for dullards or kids, But I 1:41:37.479 --> 1:41:38.880 mean the adults who play it out. 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:40.759 I'm like, come on, heay listen. If you're my daughter's 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:42.320 age and you want to do April Fools. 1:41:42.400 --> 1:41:46.960 Cool exactly, I'll play along, but for anybody else go 1:41:47.040 --> 1:41:47.679 fuck yourself. 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:51.000 Yeah here, I want to turn to Dana White. 1:41:51.080 --> 1:41:53.679 Shut the fuck up and watch m k okay, who 1:41:53.720 --> 1:41:54.920 the fuck do you think you are? 1:41:55.000 --> 1:41:58.479 Brother, You're gonna you're gonna have to long Only. 1:41:58.520 --> 1:42:00.040 You're gonna have to get the snippet of the the 1:42:00.240 --> 1:42:03.160 uh of the you know whatever we're just talking about 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:05.080 where he's going on about the AI. 1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:07.639 You need that one in the in the repertoire here, Yeah, exactly, 1:42:07.800 --> 1:42:09.640 I'll add it. But for now, I got this. This 1:42:09.760 --> 1:42:16.880 weekend I'll be doing the crack do. 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:19.400 Long Island's gonna get you with that sound machine. Don't 1:42:19.439 --> 1:42:23.080 think he won't, Oh baby, all right, With that in mind, 1:42:23.200 --> 1:42:25.400 remember we're still running a contest, so keep sending him 1:42:25.439 --> 1:42:28.559 Morning Combat at gmail dot com. But it's time now 1:42:28.800 --> 1:42:30.040 for some fan subs. 1:42:30.120 --> 1:42:37.200 Let's do it. You've got mail futures, all right. 1:42:37.240 --> 1:42:40.240 This is from first one. It's from Quinn. It's a 1:42:40.320 --> 1:42:44.519 meme and she's are he or she says? What the 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:45.360 fuck are those hats? 1:42:45.640 --> 1:42:45.800 Oh? 1:42:45.880 --> 1:42:48.679 Chuck Mintenhall Whenever Long Island Luke puts him on full 1:42:48.720 --> 1:42:51.559 screen with that wide angle shot. Yeah, because you go 1:42:51.600 --> 1:42:54.360 see all the hats in the background. Yeah, I got 1:42:54.360 --> 1:42:55.200 to pile them over there. 1:42:55.240 --> 1:42:55.439 You know. 1:42:55.640 --> 1:42:57.760 That's how I end up with Detroit. So I could 1:42:57.760 --> 1:42:59.840 just grab something put it on. I wish I had 1:42:59.840 --> 1:43:00.559 that many hats. 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:01.719 I have like three hats. 1:43:01.880 --> 1:43:04.040 I don't even I don't think i've ever seen you 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:06.400 where at only when you're going into public and you're 1:43:06.400 --> 1:43:07.599 trying to avoid like fans. 1:43:07.800 --> 1:43:08.880 I've definitely seen you do that. 1:43:09.240 --> 1:43:11.000 I definitely put a hat on in a hood up 1:43:11.000 --> 1:43:13.080 and then like just walk around like this, middle fingers. 1:43:13.120 --> 1:43:14.640 Just don't fucking talk to me. 1:43:14.760 --> 1:43:18.080 You know, I'm teazing, all right, topic number I'm not talking, 1:43:18.120 --> 1:43:21.599 but number two here on this says good day gents. 1:43:21.680 --> 1:43:25.400 Is from Jeff making a meme competition has stirred my 1:43:25.640 --> 1:43:28.519 creative juices. All right, we've got five memes and a 1:43:28.640 --> 1:43:32.040 video as well. Here we go UFC champions reading legal 1:43:32.080 --> 1:43:37.760 documents defining what their championship belts actually mean. 1:43:38.200 --> 1:43:39.879 All right, off. 1:43:40.320 --> 1:43:42.640 BC as an orangutang and then the strawweight. 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:47.760 He's going to interview how it appears to them at 1:43:47.800 --> 1:43:50.320 least I don't know if you can ride a tricycle. 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:53.920 Here's Mark Zuckerberg. Hi, I'm your neighbor that booed you 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:55.760 at a UFC event. If you need anything, I'll do 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:57.840 my best to make it worse. Come by the Data 1:43:57.840 --> 1:43:59.200 Center anytime. 1:44:00.040 --> 1:44:02.040 I do hate Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, look at that, all right. 1:44:02.080 --> 1:44:04.360 Your choice is become a lawyer or cover the most 1:44:04.400 --> 1:44:05.960 racist and sexist sport ever. 1:44:06.520 --> 1:44:10.679 And then there's Jed who's sweating it out. That's pretty good. 1:44:10.960 --> 1:44:14.240 It's the this is this is MMA is the official 1:44:14.240 --> 1:44:17.280 sport of fascism. It is just I mean, in funnsane, 1:44:17.400 --> 1:44:18.920 how full of awful people? 1:44:18.920 --> 1:44:19.559 It is? All right? 1:44:19.800 --> 1:44:23.760 Next, uh, here's the urinal And then coming up, did 1:44:23.760 --> 1:44:27.559 you hear Kid Rock is performing at UFC Freedom to fifty. 1:44:28.600 --> 1:44:30.200 Do you think they're gonna have Kid Rock at the 1:44:30.200 --> 1:44:32.720 White House? I think i'd sprits on that guy if 1:44:32.760 --> 1:44:35.200 that happened, like if somebody came up to me empty years. 1:44:35.400 --> 1:44:37.599 I don't know, but it does feel that fits kind 1:44:37.600 --> 1:44:39.680 of the the motif they've been going with. Every time 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:42.000 you see trumpet event, isn't Kid Rock right on his side? 1:44:42.080 --> 1:44:44.240 Like they come out together. The oil is gonna. 1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:46.280 Be at like two hundred and fifty dollars a barrel 1:44:46.320 --> 1:44:47.280 and there's gonna. 1:44:47.000 --> 1:44:50.120 Be dying Digger Digger. 1:44:51.800 --> 1:44:53.880 And people are gonna be like, yeah, we want you 1:44:53.880 --> 1:44:59.280 to take mma. Seriously, that's not no, what's the video? 1:45:00.120 --> 1:45:03.400 Fire the person that does that. But now you have 1:45:03.560 --> 1:45:04.400 been promoted. 1:45:05.920 --> 1:45:09.080 You are now one of my elague employees. 1:45:10.000 --> 1:45:11.920 Uh, you missed some trash over there, honey. 1:45:15.040 --> 1:45:18.720 It's not bad, not too dissimilar from Halliwent. All right, 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:20.280 this is from Kelsey. 1:45:20.400 --> 1:45:24.160 Is this a girl? Is this a girl? Apparently? All right? 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:29.920 Longtime fan of the show, Kelsey Wrights listening for a 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:33.519 few years now, So yes, you do have female listeners 1:45:33.560 --> 1:45:34.320 slash donks. 1:45:34.400 --> 1:45:36.639 She might be the only one. This is the meme 1:45:36.720 --> 1:45:37.400 I came up with. 1:45:37.479 --> 1:45:39.400 I think the Netflix card is better than the White 1:45:39.400 --> 1:45:41.320 House card and agree with the sentiment that it should 1:45:41.320 --> 1:45:44.639 have been better star power matchups, But Long Island's hate 1:45:44.680 --> 1:45:46.960 for it is high for how much he loves Fight 1:45:47.080 --> 1:45:47.759 Night prelims. 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:49.559 It's a good point, fingers crossed. 1:45:49.560 --> 1:45:52.120 The cards get better matchups that are more relevant to 1:45:52.120 --> 1:45:55.479 the rankings. Keep up the great work. What's wrong with 1:45:55.520 --> 1:45:56.960 this meme? This is a great meme. 1:45:57.040 --> 1:45:59.920 Yeah, what's wrong with this meme is I've actually defend 1:46:00.120 --> 1:46:01.320 did the White House card. 1:46:01.479 --> 1:46:04.640 I'm anti it. Oh, so she should have put the 1:46:04.760 --> 1:46:07.200 m v P card. There you go. 1:46:07.320 --> 1:46:09.920 But her point was that she's holding the m v 1:46:10.040 --> 1:46:12.080 P card higher than the White House card. 1:46:12.080 --> 1:46:13.720 You know what your problem is with the m v 1:46:13.840 --> 1:46:16.000 P card. It's just that there are too many prohibitive 1:46:16.040 --> 1:46:16.680 favorites on it. 1:46:16.720 --> 1:46:18.760 And you're like, nah, yeah, it's not a good betting card. 1:46:18.800 --> 1:46:21.040 That's how it is, you know what it is. People 1:46:21.080 --> 1:46:23.040 gave me a lot of ship for those comments, by 1:46:23.040 --> 1:46:25.839 the way, and they're like, bro, you stream, you stream 1:46:25.920 --> 1:46:29.000 apex prelims, and I'm like, I never said I'm not 1:46:29.040 --> 1:46:30.800 going to stream the m v P card. 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:32.080 I said I'm not going to go to it. 1:46:32.120 --> 1:46:33.600 I said I wouldn't go to it if it was 1:46:33.760 --> 1:46:35.360 the local thing in town, just like I wouldn't go 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:37.200 to a shitty APEX card if it was the local 1:46:37.200 --> 1:46:37.639 thing in town. 1:46:39.720 --> 1:46:42.320 What if they were giving out free banana head liqueur 1:46:42.400 --> 1:46:45.400 or whatever it is, cowlderhead. 1:46:46.240 --> 1:46:46.680 I don't even know. 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:48.519 I don't think they're still involved with that, are they. 1:46:48.640 --> 1:46:50.360 I haven't seen that around much anymore. 1:46:50.520 --> 1:46:52.960 They are involved with bud Light though, and anyone who knows. 1:46:53.200 --> 1:46:54.919 But that's how you got me to a place. 1:46:55.080 --> 1:46:56.400 Is that your beer of choice bud Light? 1:46:57.400 --> 1:47:02.160 Sadly, yes, I'm not a beer snob at all, Like 1:47:02.200 --> 1:47:04.240 I don't think you need to drink great beer, but 1:47:04.360 --> 1:47:06.720 bud Light is also just bad, you know what I mean. 1:47:06.960 --> 1:47:09.920 I'm dumb tea and I really want to vape. That's fair, 1:47:10.360 --> 1:47:10.720 all right? 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:17.320 From Donagan Donagan Anderson Day one. DONK still sad over 1:47:17.360 --> 1:47:19.599 Brian's leaving, but I'm excited about the new full time 1:47:19.640 --> 1:47:24.160 Friday host, the famous and talented glup Shitdow. And just 1:47:24.240 --> 1:47:26.320 like Brian, he is a huge fan of women's one 1:47:26.360 --> 1:47:27.719 hundred and fifteen pound of age. 1:47:28.000 --> 1:47:31.679 So do you know who? Glup Shadow is? A Shock 1:47:31.720 --> 1:47:33.920 Words character? I know, not really. 1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:35.920 Sort of so yes and no, so he's not a 1:47:35.960 --> 1:47:39.080 real Star Wars character. Okay, someone had to explain this 1:47:39.120 --> 1:47:42.920 to me a while ago, but I learned it my understanding, 1:47:42.920 --> 1:47:44.960 and if I'm getting this wrong, some nerd can correct me. 1:47:45.439 --> 1:47:48.000 My understanding is that like the Star Wars fan base 1:47:48.080 --> 1:47:52.160 is so accommodating of like new characters that they don't 1:47:52.200 --> 1:47:54.280 ever quite like like, oh, we like jar Jar Binks, 1:47:54.280 --> 1:47:55.880 we like like all the awful ones. 1:47:56.200 --> 1:47:58.639 Yeah, and so like they could roll out one called 1:47:58.720 --> 1:48:00.760 glup shitdow. You don't know anything about it. 1:48:00.960 --> 1:48:03.519 You'd be like, yeah, he fucking rules, you know, glup 1:48:03.560 --> 1:48:05.800 shidow the banana slug, you know, the. 1:48:05.720 --> 1:48:07.519 Banana slug that no one gives a fuck about. 1:48:07.560 --> 1:48:09.240 You know, did you I don't know if you ever 1:48:09.320 --> 1:48:11.400 gave me like a do you have an opinion of 1:48:11.479 --> 1:48:14.519 like the Star Wars charge of being said episode? 1:48:14.520 --> 1:48:16.040 Though all of those like did you like those? 1:48:16.160 --> 1:48:19.160 Or George Lucas and that whole crew should be sent 1:48:19.200 --> 1:48:21.599 to the Hague? 1:48:21.800 --> 1:48:24.160 Dicks everywhere? Dicks dude. 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:28.880 These people who grew up with the Phantom Menace when 1:48:28.880 --> 1:48:31.639 they were kids arguing with me that it's actually great 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:34.080 cinema is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. 1:48:34.600 --> 1:48:37.800 I genuinely am like, I like, if I see that, 1:48:37.920 --> 1:48:40.200 and then I also see that you got charged with 1:48:40.400 --> 1:48:41.439 like some sex crime. 1:48:41.720 --> 1:48:43.360 I'm I'm gonna think poorly. 1:48:43.120 --> 1:48:46.240 Of you in either way, but like you'd be surprised 1:48:46.240 --> 1:48:50.200 how competitive. Not thinking Phantom Menace is bad is on 1:48:50.320 --> 1:48:52.400 par with me looking at your sex crimes on your 1:48:52.439 --> 1:48:54.800 rap sheet. I'm like, these are not These are both 1:48:54.840 --> 1:48:55.559 really fucking bad. 1:48:55.640 --> 1:48:58.360 You know, what are you doing with your life? Exactly? 1:48:58.840 --> 1:48:59.880 Embarrassing that people. 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:03.599 All Right, from Matt we got a meme here, he says, 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:05.400 I'm coming for that signed. 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:12.439 Poster Brian Campbell. Holy smokes. I'm so glad I was 1:49:12.479 --> 1:49:15.040 there for that event in Vegas when you guys were Yeah, 1:49:15.040 --> 1:49:16.120 I don't remember you being there. 1:49:16.200 --> 1:49:18.080 I tell you, I showed up on stage. I showed 1:49:18.120 --> 1:49:19.200 up on stage for a little while. 1:49:19.479 --> 1:49:22.000 I know I do remember that on teasing, but like Jesus, 1:49:22.280 --> 1:49:23.160 I'm never gonna. 1:49:22.920 --> 1:49:23.360 Live that down. 1:49:23.400 --> 1:49:25.160 All Right, last min alleys, we have one from John 1:49:25.240 --> 1:49:29.400 McClain says Long Island Luke's brain ten beers and bong 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:30.679 hits into the main car. 1:49:31.000 --> 1:49:34.519 Oh god, this is accurate. That was me in that moment. 1:49:34.640 --> 1:49:34.920 I was. 1:49:34.960 --> 1:49:37.600 I was, you know, I lost my Nacy Barber moneyline 1:49:37.680 --> 1:49:38.439 bet and that was me. 1:49:38.840 --> 1:49:39.639 It's like so funny. 1:49:39.640 --> 1:49:42.200 It's like I missed the Mussaiah bab Munda's fight live 1:49:42.200 --> 1:49:43.760 and then I went back and watching him, like, oh wow, 1:49:43.760 --> 1:49:45.439 this is so fucked up. And then I talked to 1:49:45.439 --> 1:49:47.680 the Long Alley He's like, I didn't even notice. 1:49:49.080 --> 1:49:51.200 I made a fans up while we were live, Luke, 1:49:51.240 --> 1:49:53.960 because I noticed you were wearing the UFC Seattle flannel. 1:49:54.040 --> 1:49:57.840 So who wore it better? Guys? Kyle Nelson? Wait, is 1:49:57.880 --> 1:49:59.000 that legit? Dude? 1:49:59.000 --> 1:50:01.160 They were giving these out there? It looks exactly like 1:50:01.200 --> 1:50:04.719 what sharing. Yeah, so every fighter was in macy Ward 1:50:04.800 --> 1:50:06.920 for media day. You know everyone had. 1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:10.320 Hell yeah, bro, this is the only car heart thing 1:50:10.360 --> 1:50:11.160 that I think I own. 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:14.479 So this wasn't deliberately a homage to like the fight. 1:50:14.600 --> 1:50:16.960 Oh no, I just wore like a fucking idiot incidence. 1:50:16.960 --> 1:50:19.880 All right, Uh, Chuck, why don't you tell the good 1:50:19.920 --> 1:50:22.360 folks what you have that they can read or they 1:50:22.360 --> 1:50:22.880 can watch. 1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:25.320 This weekend, I'll be doing the crack. Yea, yeah, I'll 1:50:25.320 --> 1:50:29.160 be doing the crack. I'll be besides Spendel I h 1:50:29.320 --> 1:50:29.719 this week. 1:50:29.760 --> 1:50:32.920 Are doing the crack on Wednesday, so you can cut 1:50:32.920 --> 1:50:34.000 that off Long Island, Luke. 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:34.439 I don't know. 1:50:34.479 --> 1:50:36.800 I'm not exactly sure why, but it's a Wednesday show 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:39.280 this week, and I'll have a couple I have like 1:50:39.320 --> 1:50:43.200 some columns coming up, and I'll have a feature probably 1:50:43.280 --> 1:50:46.000 rolling out on Monday in bols Cup of Swansen. 1:50:47.320 --> 1:50:48.920 Very good, long, Luke, what you got cooking? 1:50:49.840 --> 1:50:52.280 I have a bet breakdown for this really terrible UFC 1:50:52.360 --> 1:50:54.000 Vegas one fifteen event. 1:50:54.040 --> 1:50:55.519 We got this. Have you looked at this card? It 1:50:55.600 --> 1:50:57.320 is awful. Shout out to the main event. It's a 1:50:57.320 --> 1:51:00.519 fun main event. But what's the main Chris Donk? 1:51:00.520 --> 1:51:02.720 Al Right, it should be a bloodbath, you know, but 1:51:03.080 --> 1:51:04.120 I'll bet breakdown for that. 1:51:04.160 --> 1:51:06.960 New tourny for Pop Quiz starts on Friday. Hopefully, you know, 1:51:07.000 --> 1:51:08.080 I can get an episode before that. 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:10.160 But yeah, so tune out for that, and you know, 1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:12.799 watch along for this apex slop on Saturday. 1:51:13.040 --> 1:51:16.320 Hell yea, I will not be watching the Apex Slop 1:51:16.560 --> 1:51:18.559 this Saturday, you can. I'm gonna be spending time with 1:51:18.600 --> 1:51:21.519 my family. Let's see what do we have going on 1:51:21.560 --> 1:51:23.360 for me? You can just go to my YouTube channels 1:51:23.360 --> 1:51:24.320 and all that good stuff there. 1:51:24.720 --> 1:51:25.280 Go check that out. 1:51:25.320 --> 1:51:27.680 Of course we're always on social Chuck is as well. Yeah, 1:51:27.680 --> 1:51:30.160 we can find everything on ig and Twitter for him. 1:51:30.280 --> 1:51:33.519 Reminder Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Keep the memes coming. 1:51:33.720 --> 1:51:35.640 We're gonna announce the winner for the last month this 1:51:35.800 --> 1:51:38.679 coming Friday, so be on the lookout. We'll get that done. 1:51:38.760 --> 1:51:40.880 To keep sending them in. We love them, we appreciate them. 1:51:40.880 --> 1:51:42.679 They make the show better. So thank you to everyone 1:51:42.720 --> 1:51:44.760 who contributes them. Even if we like them where we don't. 1:51:44.760 --> 1:51:47.080 We appreciate all of them that come in, so thank 1:51:47.120 --> 1:51:49.120 you very much, shut the fuck up and keep sending 1:51:49.120 --> 1:51:55.280 them anything else. Oh, yes, Morningcombat Dot Shop. Today and tomorrow, 1:51:55.360 --> 1:51:58.360 these are the last two days to get forty percent 1:51:58.400 --> 1:52:00.679 off on all the T shirts, all all the designs 1:52:00.680 --> 1:52:05.800 you see, forty percent off just today and just tomorrow, and. 1:52:05.760 --> 1:52:07.280 Then that is it. 1:52:07.840 --> 1:52:11.080 All right for Long Island Luke for Chuck Mindenhall, I 1:52:11.120 --> 1:52:13.240 am LT. We'll see you guys on Friday. Appreciate you 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:16.360 guys watching until next time. May all of your gains 1:52:16.520 --> 1:52:17.040 be loyal