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Speaker 2: And hey, it's time to get weird. It's time for

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Hello everyone, on this thirtieth day of March,

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Speaker 2: here twenty twenty six, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Holy smokes, we got a lot to talk

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Speaker 2: about today. I am merely one half of your hosting duo.

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Speaker 2: I joined you from the capitol of the Stabs right

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Speaker 2: here in Washington, d joined by my brethren from Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: And yet he's a trader to the city of Detroit.

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Speaker 2: It's Chuck Minton Hall. What's up, Charles.

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Speaker 3: It's baseball season, throwing a baseball cap, you know, the

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Speaker 3: city alternative whatever they call that.

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Speaker 1: So says Detroit. I like Detroit. You're a Tigers guy. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm a whore. Remember I was wearing

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Speaker 1: the ZUFA boxing hat. One fucking whrror. It's a good

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Speaker 1: start to the show right there. Yeah, exactly, dude. This

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Speaker 1: weekend was great.

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Speaker 2: UFC Seattle, great BFL Pittsburgh not for nothing. Also pretty great.

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Speaker 2: RAF had kind of some fun moments as well. All

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Speaker 2: the boxing basically came with finishes. I'm like, man, if

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Speaker 2: they could all be like this, I don't think I'd

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Speaker 1: That was all blast right.

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Speaker 3: Every now and again we get one of these right,

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Speaker 3: like where you get everything alignes, you get like several cards,

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Speaker 3: everything pays off.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of like having fun no matter which event

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Speaker 1: you're watching. That was. That was really what it was. Like.

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Speaker 3: I saw you tweet that, and I think you might

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Speaker 3: have even said it before the PFL, but whatever it was,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, man, you can't get better

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite nights, Chuck, this is true if

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Speaker 2: you'll recall correctly, the night of Michael Chandler versus Eddie

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Speaker 1: Was the same.

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Speaker 2: That's right, shogunhendo dude, and both of those fights are

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Speaker 2: just all time I know, man madness, and they happened

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was thinking about that, man.

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Speaker 3: That was like I told I was like, you know

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Speaker 3: what's funny is that that actually occurred to me too.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you remember that.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about that because we had those fights

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Speaker 3: and they were both ridiculous. You get maybe one of

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Speaker 2: Let's bring in the third member here of the show.

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Speaker 2: He is the intrepid producer and professional girlfriend ignorer. He's

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Speaker 2: my friend in yours. It's Long Island Luke. Hello, fellow Luke.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys?

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Speaker 4: It was a great weekend of combat sports. Huh UFC

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Speaker 4: Seattle definitely delivered. I let my watch along go a

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Speaker 4: little long. We had rif we had PBC, we had PFL.

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Speaker 4: It was a you know, a great ignorance weekend, as

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Speaker 1: LT.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of things to get to here

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Speaker 2: Island put up the picture of our dear friend. Look

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Speaker 2: at this. Look at this fucking photo. Hey, which one

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Speaker 1: It's not like the other.

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Speaker 2: From left to right, it's Brian Custer, who of course

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Speaker 1: It's Brian fucking Campbell. Can you believe this picture?

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Speaker 2: So I actually told bc BC hit me up. He's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: He's not afraid.

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Speaker 3: Remember him, Oh you weren't with us, But like he

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Speaker 2: good job on the broadcast. We'll talk about that Keith

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Speaker 3: I know what though, Man, just looking at that real

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Speaker 1: All right, So there you have it, all right, Chuck?

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Speaker 1: Am I missing anything else? No?

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Speaker 2: I think you've hit it all all right. With that

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that main event.

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Speaker 2: Joe Piper stops is Real at Asnia in the second

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Speaker 3: I did see a lot of people, man, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: And I just don't know how you can watch this

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Speaker 2: He looks diminished to me, And how could he not?

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Speaker 2: I don't take any great pleasure in saying this. I thought, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen its scene. We've seen it before too.

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Speaker 3: With these guys who've been elusive over their careers, they're

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Speaker 3: But I always feel like the guy, like you're mentioning

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Speaker 3: It's almost like because he's been so different, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if.

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Speaker 2: These decisions about when to walk away are tough for anybody,

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Speaker 2: He could not do that here. He couldn't even get

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Speaker 2: He cannot bring himself to do it. You're asking why

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, And then you know, we've seen him lose

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Speaker 1: It's not the worst way to go out.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, like you said about you.

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Speaker 3: Know why he chose to basically go that direction, But

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Speaker 3: about where he won, he wasn't doing great in that fight.

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00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 3: He was on the verge there too, right of maybe

437
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 3: going out. So yeah, it's just it's it's rough, but

438
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 3: I felt, you know, maybe he just felt like that

439
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 3: was his best opportunity to get it done, you know

440
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 3: what I mean.

441
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: And one last thing, I'm glad you brought that up again.

442
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. I have no

443
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 2: idea speculative show, Luke, I mean, yeah, I mean, this

444
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 2: is what we do in the show.

445
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: We baselessly speculate.

446
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 2: But the thing for me is, I think it took

447
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 2: him more of himself to get that win over Poeton

448
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: that way, you know, this sort of triumphant final, say

449
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 2: not in their overall careers, but.

450
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: In their particular fighting history together.

451
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 2: I think it took so much resources for him to

452
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 2: get there, and he had to give so much to

453
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: that process, and I think it meant so much to

454
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: him in terms of like just satisfying his soul that

455
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that he had the same fire afterwards.

456
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you haven't realize, dude.

457
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 2: Think the older you get, you'll realize events in your life.

458
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,439
Speaker 2: Sometimes they can add things to you, and sometimes they

459
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: can take things from you and your character and who

460
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: you are. Again, it can go both ways. I'm not

461
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 2: saying it's all negative or all positive.

462
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: Chuck.

463
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: Life is a funny way of just changing you. But sometimes, Chuck,

464
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 2: and I know you can speak to this too. I'm

465
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: not making this up. Sometimes you can feel it, like

466
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 2: if there's a traumatic event right in them mediate and something,

467
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 2: you can feel it happened to yourself. But a lot

468
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: of times there'll be an inflection point in your life

469
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 2: and it takes you years before you can even see that.

470
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree with that, but I

471
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 2: feel like that's true. I agree one hundred percent.

472
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: And remember too, like the psychological toll of the Perreira series,

473
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,439
Speaker 3: essentially because we were talking about everybody talked about like

474
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 3: this goes back to Glory. This guy was basically invented,

475
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: you know, to come into the UFC and be the

476
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 3: guy to kind of be the boogeyman for Israel out

477
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 3: of son and at the time it seemed like it

478
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: was even a thing. But as he got closer and closer,

479
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: it felt like, Okay, this guy was put on earth

480
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: to come and you know, haunt Israel out of Sonya.

481
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: And then he does. And I think, you know, we

482
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: talked about this.

483
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: I know BC used to bring it up because we

484
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: talked about on a show where like maybe this has

485
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: never been about Israel out of son Maybe this has

486
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 3: been Alex Perreira's story the whole way, you know, And

487
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: he kind of took that attitude like he was sort

488
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: of like I felt like a little bit of his

489
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: identity where he was like, you know, what is unfolding here.

490
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 3: I remember him talking a lot about this and he

491
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 3: was able to get that victory. So when you say

492
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: that the toll it took to get it, I really

493
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: believe that he probably had to go to some places

494
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: in his mind, just like you were mentioned with Gasolon,

495
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: like some places in his mind that you know, it

496
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: would be like ordinary people wouldn't understand, Like he just

497
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: such that finally sense Now did he leave it all there?

498
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: That's the question, man, That is the question. But that

499
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: there was a big psychological, a big mental toll that

500
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 3: he took to to win that series or at least

501
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: even it out on that scale, and he hasn't really

502
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 3: been the same since, right, So sometimes you don't know, man,

503
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: Like you just don't know how much you're you're giving

504
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 3: way and you think you're the same guy, you think

505
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: you're walking in the same but clearly you've lost something.

506
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: No.

507
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean, we all treat it like you can just

508
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: cut you know, not that you can reproduce the same

509
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: kinds of will you know forever. Of course it all

510
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: comes to a close, you know. But I think there's

511
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: times that fighters don't realize that they have to give

512
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: something to a mission that takes something from them where

513
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna succeed, but then they're not going to be

514
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 2: able to be the same afterwards as a result of

515
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: what that contribution took. How true that is with this,

516
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see.

517
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: He seems to be and I mean, maybe you can

518
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: speak to this a little bit, but like he seems

519
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: to be dissociating almost with victory, Like so the wins

520
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 3: and losses, He's like, all right, that's great, I might lose,

521
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 3: but I'll stay undefeated. And I mean this is an

522
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: attitude to take, you know, And especially I wrote about

523
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: this like a cruel game that basically takes away everything

524
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: that it gives you in the end. You know, he's

525
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: he's got the attitude of I'm gonna take losses. That's okay,

526
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just keep going until you guys kicked me out.

527
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: What do you think of that, man, Because obviously we're

528
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: sitting here talking. Yeah, I mean, but this is because

529
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: we've seen this a lot. Right, he's a very different fighter. Like,

530
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: he's very different. His mindset is very different. So it's

531
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: not like you see you know this recurring. You know,

532
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 3: it's not like the same person. It's it's always comes

533
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: from a different lays. You might give him a little

534
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: more leeway, but it's like one of those things that

535
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 3: you're like, man, that's scary, right, Like the guy wants it,

536
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 3: like he's like, I don't see an end of the sight.

537
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: I want to keep doing this. Let me say something

538
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: about that. I'm so glad you brought this up, Chuck. Yeah,

539
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm really, really, I'm quite glad. One of the arguments

540
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna make this work. Just follow me

541
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: for a second. One of the arguments actually in favor

542
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: of boxing's pay structure relative to MMA. Is what you'll

543
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: hear is this is common chuck you for just a

544
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: million times. I'm sure, hey, MMA may not pay the

545
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: high end guys the same. But it's got a middle class.

546
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: You've heard that right, Yes, it's like a middle class.

547
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 2: And that sounds real nice because we associate middle class

548
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: with our own middle class, like, you know, having the

549
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: opportunity to send your kids to school, get an education,

550
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 2: you know, live a decent life, own your own home.

551
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: You know what we all associate middle class living to be.

552
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: It sounds intuitively quite nice. But the older I get,

553
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 2: and the more fights I watch, and the more I

554
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: see the life cycle of everyone's career, the more I'm

555
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 2: beginning to think you actually don't want a middle class

556
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: in fighting. That's actually not a thing that you want.

557
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: What you want are haves and have nots. Because and

558
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: this is why, not that you want people to be abused,

559
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: but that the game is so brutal and it does

560
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: nothing but take from you that the only real way

561
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: that you can justify doing it for a long time

562
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: is if it confers extraordinary, very financial reward.

563
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: Right, that's the way.

564
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: Or you get out early enough, like Habib got out

565
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: early so that the trade was pretty good actually in

566
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: the end. And if you have a middle class, what

567
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: ends up happening is you just have guys that you know,

568
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: they have to fight for a very long time. They actually,

569
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: you know, they earn a respectable living by middle class standards,

570
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: but they end up taking like an enormous amount of

571
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: abuse because they go much longer than they ordinarily would.

572
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: It's something to think about. Why do I bring this up?

573
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: Obviously I don't think Izzy is in that financial condition,

574
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: but he's in this kind of same competitive condition where

575
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: you're just keeping going well past the point of sanity,

576
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: well past the point of like, here's why we do this.

577
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: We do this so we can make a shitload of

578
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: money and then get the fuck out. That's the job.

579
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: If you're not able to be a part of that

580
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 2: track and the things that are part of it, Yeah,

581
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: this is this is nothing but a depletion machine.

582
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: It will just destroy you. There's no way to beat this.

583
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: It cannot be done.

584
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: And I really really think that people around him need

585
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: to be in his ear to make him see this

586
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: is going to do nothing but deplete you from here

587
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: on out.

588
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: That's what I believe. It's one hundred percent well stated.

589
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: And I mean the Anderson Silva thing is very similar, right,

590
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 3: like in in a way like because Anderson Silva. In fact,

591
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: they kind of fed Anderson Silva too, Israel out of

592
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: sending to kind of get him over and take the juice. Remember,

593
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 3: but it's kinda he knows that he knows how this goes. Man,

594
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: he knows the dog eat dog nature. That's what's so crazy.

595
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: He's very self aware of his situation. But you're right

596
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: because it's an ever narrowing path that you're on as well,

597
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: Like not only are you losing, but now you're sort

598
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,479
Speaker 3: of like making the matchmaker say who do you?

599
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: Who do you put him against? Do you? Are you

600
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: trying to get him back on track?

601
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 3: Because there's a there's a little bit of a you know,

602
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 3: and I remember talking about this with BJ Pennet. Didn't

603
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: work out for him obviously, but like if you if

604
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: you put him against the guy that he should beat

605
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: and he ends up winning, what does that do? Does

606
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: an extend his kind of mindset as to how far

607
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: he wants to take it again? That can be a

608
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: brutal thing, right, just giving somebody some false, you know, confidence,

609
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: Not that he he's very mentally strong guy. I'm sure

610
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: he sees it all the way that it's meant to

611
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: be seen, But I it's it's a narrowing path and

612
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, like, you know, I'm not sure what

613
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 3: the what are the what are the matchmaker's even gonna do?

614
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, what would you do

615
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: with him?

616
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure you can get another one of these type

617
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: of events where he can be a main event and

618
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: and some fight night or something like that. But if

619
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: the stakes, like he's a guy who's a high stakes guy, right,

620
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Like he's played the high stakes the whole time, I'm

621
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: not sure what it does for anybody here other than

622
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: the make I mean, especially if he goes out and wins.

623
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's a weird situation because I think,

624
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: how did you did you think that he might hang

625
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: it up after this fight? I was under the suspicion

626
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: that he might, you know what I mean, Like he's

627
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: one of those guys who sees the big picture and

628
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: he might walk away. I guess the revelation was that's

629
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 3: now not how he's thinking.

630
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I didn't think he would call it

631
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: a day at Seattle, But I thought if he lost

632
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: this way, he might like, hey, you know, I don't

633
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: know what's left right and have to go back and

634
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: think about it something like that.

635
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 3: And then no, Yeah, I mean so it's would you

636
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: who would you match him? If he's going to fight? Like,

637
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: what what do you do with this guy?

638
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: At this? So it's a great question.

639
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: I mean, Robert Whitaker sitting at nine that one again,

640
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: I guess he's going to two.

641
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Five or whatever.

642
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I talked about this yesterday's Mission Radio.

643
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: How about Kelvin Gastolam rematch?

644
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: Wow, It's like, yeah, I know you're scoffing at it, Luke,

645
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: and I know fame Luke as relevant as he is today.

646
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: But you can make that a fun fight and you

647
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: don't have to make it a main event either. You

648
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: could have it. And I'm just honest. Can I just

649
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: be honest? Man?

650
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Like I when I say this, I mean this with

651
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sincerity.

652
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't care if he never fights.

653
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean I do care, but I'm saying I don't

654
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: want him to fight another round ever. Again, I agree,

655
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: and like to the point where you're asking me, who

656
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: could you put him against I don't even want to

657
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: think about it, you know what I mean. I'm at

658
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: that place like I don't it doesn't like this has

659
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: come to a close for me in all its usefulness.

660
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Everything after this is bad.

661
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: If he walks away right now, you still think, like

662
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: in my mind because you even look at the reception

663
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: he got eighteen thousand people Seattle. It's not his hometown,

664
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: right obviously, like they drop the lights, he comes out,

665
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: big pop. I felt like the whole room was a

666
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: partisan crowd for him. He walks away right now, don't

667
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: you think that he's still like his legacy is intact.

668
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 3: I think that most people would look at they're going

669
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: to look at his run ahead of all of this

670
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: stuff at the end of it, and there was nothing

671
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: really because he was fighting monsters and even Joe Pifer

672
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: was a hard fight, right. There's no shame in kind

673
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: of the way it went down in the end. The

674
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: bottom line is, I think everybody at this point he

675
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: had such a weird it factor through his process that

676
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: that's what I'm going to remember. That's if he gets

677
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 3: in now. The only thing you start to do at

678
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: some point is to take away from that.

679
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: He's the second best middleweight of all time.

680
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he just is. There's not really much

681
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: debate about it.

682
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Poeton, you know, went to get a belt

683
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: in another weight class, and he might do it again

684
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: in another weight class, and that's its own separate level

685
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: of achievement. But like within the middleweight division, this is

686
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: the second best guy.

687
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: To ever do it, period.

688
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: It's not a very difficult argument to make, you know,

689
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: so to me, yes, it is intact.

690
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, I heard somebody mention putting him against I

691
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: know you don't want to talk about who he should fight,

692
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: but if you're going to like it out, a step

693
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: backwards would probably be the right way if he's trying

694
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: to get back on track. But like, what about the

695
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: U Stree thing, like they fought and kick by I

696
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: think I think r we would fucking beat him.

697
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: They fought.

698
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: You remember you were at the Broomfield in Colorado, right

699
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: like the Glory where they fought, and it.

700
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Was I believe I was. I'm not sure if I

701
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: was at that one.

702
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: Okay, I was eminly at that one. I remember That's

703
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: when I was introduced really to both of them. I

704
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: didn't really know both the guys, and uh, you know,

705
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: good fight, and I know they had one previously that

706
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: year that was like a split decision or you know,

707
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: it was very close as well. So I mean, if

708
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: they were looking to play backstory type things against the

709
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 3: guy and you're trying to get a guy over, and

710
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: that's where that's unfortunately the way that matchmakers might see things.

711
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you get guys over on Izzy?

712
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: If he wants to keep going around, you know, that

713
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: might be an option.

714
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: They might do it that way.

715
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: I'll say this for the UFC and Joe Pifer, the

716
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: UFC wanted they always get guys. This was not a

717
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: title fight, but they always get guys like leaving a

718
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: division before someone else can even threaten to the to

719
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: beat them, and there's no transfer of star power, you know, generationally,

720
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: Piper makes it very difficult to like him, right, Oh

721
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: my god, do you hear these revelations? He was like,

722
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: I nearly killed myself and then you find which is

723
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: and I you know I'm not this is.

724
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: You know, you have to take those things seriously.

725
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: I was really mad at DC at first for not

726
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: even we're just skipping over it, but go ahead, go ahead.

727
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Well maybe he knew what I know was which was later.

728
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: He admits to Chee and his girl, which then made

729
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: him want to kill himself and then found Jesus through that.

730
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: This is all like in like what a month or

731
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: something like, you just can't believe how insane like some

732
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: of these people are. But all right, putting that aside,

733
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 2: the UFC did their job right to an extent, because

734
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: now you got a young guy beating an older guy

735
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: with a lot more star power. The younger guy's American.

736
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Like as a promoter, you're gonna be to have to

737
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: be happy with that. But to the point you rais

738
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: about what should be next for ply for them, we'll

739
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: move on from this. Is that you've got Sean Strickland

740
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: sitting or is he currently Again they're gonna update this,

741
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: but before they've updated it, is he a sitting at four?

742
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: So he might go joemightz co somewhere around maybe four

743
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: or five. Above that is Strickland, Imovov and then Dupless.

744
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Those are not fights that I mean, Strickland's going to

745
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: be fighting for the title. I don't care about him

746
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: fighting Drikas, I mean, I know, but to me, the

747
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: more interesting fights are the ones below that. That's what

748
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: I yes, yeah, yeah, let me read.

749
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: Them off if I may.

750
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Kyle Bahalio, I'm sorry, Kyle boholliow at five, when Brendan

751
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: Allen at six, Fluffy it's and Rnier de Ritter at eight.

752
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you in Whitikard nine ken a near ten.

753
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: RoboCop eleven RoboCop would be a good one like that

754
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: whereat fights seriously, that's the type of fight he should take.

755
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: That's the kind of fight he should put in.

756
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: But be put in next because I was saying it, man,

757
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: I just don't think a little too raw still to

758
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: be like, let's just catapult him.

759
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ends up.

760
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the rankings themselves, the UC rankings are

761
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: a mystery in terms of how they end up where

762
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: they are. But if he ends up in that, like

763
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: number five or something like that, I think he should

764
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: fight below him, like it should be the guys still

765
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: coming up. I don't think that he I don't think

766
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: he belongs yet in that top five conversation. I think

767
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: there we need to see one more thing at the

768
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: RoboCop one. I don't know where where'd you say he

769
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: was sitting like tenth or eleventh, eleventh as it stands,

770
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: and I mean he was fourteenth coming in here. And

771
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: if we're saying that Israel Adisania obviously was kind of

772
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: honorarily at number four, you're like, Okay, let's take that

773
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: with a little grain of salt. I think that somebody

774
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: like RoboCop makes the most sense. It's still above him

775
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: where he was going into this fight.

776
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I agree with it.

777
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, but certainly a dramatic finish for

778
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: topic number one. All right, let's go to topic number two.

779
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Let's talk the rest of that Seattle main card if

780
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 2: we can, which the best UFC main card of the year, Chuck,

781
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: before we even talk about anything else, I know, we've

782
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: got a bunch of questions here to answer due that

783
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: main card that was the first of all. The UFC

784
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: Seattle event was the best event of the year for

785
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: UFC by a million miles. We've talked about it on MK.

786
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: Not the low tier, not the meta apex overflow. No

787
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: one cares about the top of them one, the top

788
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: of the numbered events. You would like those to be better,

789
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: and certainly they have bigger names for sure, But to me, Chuck,

790
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: the part of the product that's working. Is this one

791
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: on the road fight night with a semi celebrity main

792
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: event that shit works?

793
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, man, And I mean sometimes I think that

794
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: things feed off of like every now and again, it's

795
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: like a baton pass. The kind of electricity just keeps

796
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: going through the event. We've seen events like this before.

797
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you get that at the Apex

798
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: because there's no crowd to kind of push forward. And

799
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I mean, obviously this is just me speculating,

800
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: but I do think that the ambiance of a room,

801
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: the atmosphere of a room, really plays into this. And

802
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: isn't it a lot better when you watch something like

803
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: the Seattle There's eighteen thousand people. It felt very alive

804
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: the whole way through it, and we had nothing but finish.

805
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: I think the whole main card was finishes, right, So

806
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: that's I mean, it's it's probably more than coincidence.

807
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: You know, right, all right, So let's talk about that

808
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: co main event. I'm not even sure where to start this.

809
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: Alexa Grosso just I mean sends Maycy Barber Chuck and

810
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 2: I think the official description in the records is sent

811
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: her to the land of wind and ghosts. Look at

812
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 2: this scene here. I was scared for her. Man, Yeah,

813
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: me too. This was the most scared I'd been since

814
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell. God was twitching, yeah when Josh Emma hit

815
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: him with that nuclear bomb. All right, So let me

816
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: just ask this and if the answer is no, that's fine.

817
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's an unfair question to ask.

818
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Is Grosso's win over Barbered the best finish.

819
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: In the history of women's MMA? Oh?

820
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, okay, so you've had You've had more

821
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: iconic moments, right, Obviously, like Holly Holme beating Ronda Rousei

822
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: a UC one ninety three would be hard to top

823
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: if you're talking about it from a certain way. And

824
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 3: I mean like rosenaum Munis has been involved in some

825
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: of the craziest finishes, including the slam that she got

826
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: knocked out in with with andrage. Remember that was like

827
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: one of those ones you're like, oh my god, that's

828
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: quintin Rampage Jackson come back to life. And then of

829
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: course her stunning Jianguilie with a with a head cake

830
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: and Johanna. I would put all of those in there.

831
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: But if you're just talking about pure savage.

832
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Like animal like.

833
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't it was it was it was predatorial the

834
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: way that she put her away, that that punch straight

835
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: into snatching that neck and I mean so deep into

836
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: the neck and just laying like laying her down like

837
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 3: a carcass at the end. It's just like, I don't

838
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: think I've ever seen anything like that. If it's not

839
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: the best, it's gonna be the most memorable. I think

840
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 3: that that was one of those that you will not

841
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: soon forget.

842
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Man.

843
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, I think that's exactly the right analysis. You know,

844
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: that win that Holly Holm had where she pushes Ronda

845
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: into range and then fires the head kick as she

846
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: wanders into just the right spot. I mean, I don't

847
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: know if anything's gonna top that, but I agree with

848
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: you in terms of like the kind of mma is

849
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: very good for a level of brutality that you hadn't

850
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: even contemplated.

851
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 3: You know, where that wakes it up when you see

852
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: some shit right like that that wakes that thing back up,

853
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: spins her like a top with the left and then

854
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: hits her with another shot and then jumps on the

855
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: back to the point where like put the.

856
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Picture up one more time. I don't know if you

857
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: can see it.

858
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't see it great from this angle top

859
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: right corner. Macy was almost biting her own tongue off. Yes,

860
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: I did see that, Like I mean, just like do

861
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: you you know, like an animal on the side of

862
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: the road. I'm not I'm not trying to be difficult

863
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: about it, but you know what I'm saying, Like, here's

864
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: but by the way it responded to all this, saying quote,

865
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: God is good all the time. No place else I

866
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: would have rather been than last night. Excuse me, even

867
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: though I don't remember much. This is just another piece

868
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: of the story. Thank you to the UFC for the

869
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: opportunity and congratulations Alexa Grosso, love you all. I will

870
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: be back, which is good to see. Certainly we're very

871
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: happy about that. But dude, that was fucking incredible. And

872
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: I know we kill women's MM a lot because a

873
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 2: lot of times it's shut opposit to this. So when

874
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: they deliver, it's really important to be like, did they deliver?

875
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: They over delivered to an extraordinary degree.

876
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: Especially because if you looked at this main card, the

877
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: six fights on it, you'd be look at this one.

878
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: I like, well, that one's going to decision.

879
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: I was talking to Long Island Luke before we started

880
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: taping here, and we were like, you know, if you

881
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: were to pick a fight that you're like, Okay, this

882
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: one's going the distance and probably Maycy Barber comes out

883
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: on top. This was the one right like, and that's

884
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: what made it that much more of like a shock

885
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: to the system. Was just Alexa Grasso. We'd seen her.

886
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: We were talking about diminishing form of Israel at a

887
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: cent I kind of felt like she might be on

888
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: that track a little even though she's not nearly as

889
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: old or whatever.

890
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: She's been around a little bit.

891
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: But to land that, to land that punch as clean

892
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: as she did, and then to like just snatch the

893
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: neck all in one motion like like a like an

894
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: animal Like, that's what it looked like to me. And

895
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: and to kind of have that finish and the visual too,

896
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: because for just a second Barber is trying to go

897
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: for a single leg on the uh or grabbing the

898
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 3: leg of the referee as a last you know, the

899
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: last moment before she kind of falls away like and

900
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: fades out for the next like five It was just

901
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,959
Speaker 3: cinematic almost. I mean it's almost like you're like, dude,

902
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: that couldn't have happened, but it's it was way more

903
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: shocking just given that it was Grasso who did it,

904
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: and you know, we've known that she did, Like, who

905
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: are getting that Chef Chenko? You know that Chef Chankos

906
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: submission a few years ago always sticks in my mind

907
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: of what she's capable of. But dude, that was savage

908
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: on another level like that, we we get immune to

909
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: watching certain things, like I can see cuts like that

910
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: Bahamandas fight earlier, Like you can see blood and all

911
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: that broken bone sometimes and it doesn't phaze me at all.

912
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: But there's something crazy.

913
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: Animal about like when you see something like that, you

914
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: oh my god, it awakens this thing back in you

915
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: what you're watching.

916
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the way her like Barber's body gets just like

917
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: grabbed and whipped, you know, to your point, it's like

918
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 2: it's like a hawk or an eagle coming down and

919
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: then grabbing a fish off the top of the water.

920
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: You can see it kind of flailing in. It's why

921
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: I know it in its talons. All right, But let's

922
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: talk about the fight itself. So what does this mean?

923
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: On the one hand, Chuck, I mean a massively redemptive

924
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: moment for grosso.

925
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: You could start there if you want.

926
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: But the other the other question here is okay, this

927
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: is a bad loss for Barber, but there is an

928
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: open question of at twenty seven years old, how bad

929
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: of a loss is it?

930
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Exactly? Was way in here? Please? Well?

931
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean, do you remember the rockstam out a fairy

932
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: fight where she was like a heavy favorite I'm talking

933
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: like minus of one thousand type favorite and she ends

934
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: up losing it. She was very young, and I remember thinking, then,

935
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: you know, it's either she's too young or she has

936
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: a mindset that something something with Haywire and how she

937
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: perceived herself, And I didn't quite I thought that she

938
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: was building herself with the victory she's had this last

939
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 3: time correctly. So something like this you wonder, like, does

940
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: it take away sort of this the sheine of your

941
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: own feeling of your invincibility because she had like something

942
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: that she was like I felt like she was in

943
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: the right place mentally. But something like this really does

944
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: change that. We've seen it happen so many times when

945
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 3: somebody gets knocked out in a big way and they're

946
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: not able to come back. I now, now that's the

947
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: question for her, is like how do you respond to

948
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: something like this. You mentioned her age. She's very young,

949
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: so I'm not putting it past her to come back,

950
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that these can be very mentally hard,

951
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: and just the optics of it too, right, Like everybody's

952
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,959
Speaker 3: gonna you know, we're gonna be seeing this on a loop.

953
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: She's gonna be seeing it on a loop. It's gonna

954
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: be a tough mental hurdle for her man to get

955
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: back on track.

956
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has time and she has the opportunity. The

957
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: lesson to me just when the ex's and O's chuck

958
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: is you know, you go back and you watch the

959
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: first fight. It was in the APEX, but I think

960
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: this was like the middle of the pandemic. I'm not

961
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: sure exactly what year was, maybe twenty twenty one, so

962
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: something like that, and Barbara had a hard time closing

963
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: the distance. She was able to do it a little bit.

964
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: She was able to in the first fight, was able

965
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: to wing overhands and then you know, clinch against the fence.

966
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: There's a couple of times she failed on that, but

967
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: then there was the longer the fight went. She had

968
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: a little more success in the third in that regard,

969
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 2: but closing the distance. That was the big one here.

970
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: And the problem with this loss for Barber is not

971
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: just the violence of it all. But I did, like

972
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: Chuck that she was stepping into range more right.

973
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: She was.

974
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: She was electing to take the fight to those places

975
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: much more readily, which I do think is a good,

976
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: good thing. However, she got in trouble here because she

977
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: like grossly overstepped and then had to go off balance

978
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: and then her head in the line and couldn't move,

979
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: And so as a consequence, like so overstepping and then

980
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: using you know, kind of suspect defense for that position,

981
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 2: you know, a Luke Rock hold against Michael Bisping right,

982
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: or you're just leaning but you've over committed that it

983
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: just causes constant problems. And it's like, it still seems

984
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: to me that the things that were affecting her in

985
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: the stand up they're not the same as they were, Chuck,

986
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: But there's still there's there's a lot of improvement that

987
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: needs to happen.

988
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that she just did not view

989
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: Grasso as a threat to put her away that way?

990
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: Because I just was checking. I'm like that has Grasso

991
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: had a KO before it? And I don't think she

992
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: had in the UFCA. You have to go back to

993
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: Invicta before she put somebody away on the feet.

994
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: I mean, she definitely wanted to pressure hard.

995
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I mean in the end, I'm not

996
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: that it was.

997
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: It seemed incautious exactly, but it just it didn't feel

998
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: like the respect fact. I don't I don't think she

999
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: really believed that she could get knocked out with a

1000
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: single shot like that. And that shot was so violent

1001
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: and it was like a piston bom. It was just

1002
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: on her flush, right on the chin. I mean, as

1003
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 3: beautiful as they get. Like you had two crazy sequences

1004
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 3: in one there with the with the choke, the way

1005
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: like the visual of that choke, with that punch, I

1006
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: mean like that that's that's it's almost like a double finish, right.

1007
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: Yes, I felt I initially had tweeted, oh my god,

1008
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: submission of the Year. I couldn't quite I knew she

1009
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: was she was obviously dazed from the punch, but I

1010
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: didn't know she was out.

1011
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

1012
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: And then I showed the replay and I was like, no,

1013
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: she was fucking out, Like.

1014
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: I know, Long Island. You said that somebody, what was

1015
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: your story? You were saying that, like somebody thought that they.

1016
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 5: Gaff had gaff had Grosso by Ko and we were

1017
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: all disappointed because we thought it was a sub win.

1018
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: We found out like five minutes later they called it.

1019
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't remember that happening before. I don't

1020
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: remember where. You're like, oh, that was a submission. They're like, no, no, no,

1021
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: she was well out by the time her neck was

1022
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 3: being wrong.

1023
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine it's like, uh, hey, so bad news.

1024
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Uh we don't know how to describe how badly you lost.

1025
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1026
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: Well, she was one of the I remember talking to

1027
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 3: Ben Askrin and I was like, when did you you know,

1028
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: because when you get knocked out or you get like,

1029
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: it's to create, like when did you really come become alert?

1030
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: And he's like in the hospital and I was looking around.

1031
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I get I'd taken it. I didn't win,

1032
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 3: And you're like, well, that's kind of I felt.

1033
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt like she was.

1034
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: I felt like she was in that space you could

1035
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: see them kind of like telling it and she was

1036
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: just looking around in a bewildered way when she came

1037
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 3: to which I was just happy that she came back

1038
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: for a minute there, Man, I was like, it was

1039
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: a little nerve racking to see her just staring off

1040
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: into the distance with the lifelessness in her eyes.

1041
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, amazing. All right, so we'll see what

1042
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: happens from here. Let's talk about it. Usually Bill Gari Man,

1043
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: this was for me his best performance at MMA, and

1044
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I just I don't know which one would be better,

1045
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: because you know, did everything go perfectly? No, However, this

1046
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: was a very good opponent in front of him and

1047
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: Mansort abdel abdul Malick. So let me just ask you, Chuck.

1048
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: I have my own thoughts, but I want.

1049
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: To hear yours. Yeah, what to you?

1050
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: Really made this performance from Bill garwiso special.

1051
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean he was just able to make like he

1052
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: kept the thing, who is he six ft six, He

1053
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: kept the thing in his in his you know, his

1054
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: realm of expertise, which is the kickboxing. But he was

1055
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: also his strength has gotten much better, like totally. You

1056
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: could see him just thwarty, and you could see Manser

1057
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: basically not sure what to do with it because the

1058
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: times he was kind of going in there and doing

1059
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: he he was being not manhandled, but he was being

1060
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: easily shucked off, and I think he was like, this

1061
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: isn't going to be as easy as I had hoped

1062
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: to kind of take him to the mat. So I

1063
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: think that his strength is one of one of them.

1064
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 3: And I mean, dude, like when you look at Usuri,

1065
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: like the guys he's training with, and I live just

1066
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: like a few miles from from where he trains with

1067
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 3: Glover to Shera and Alex Perera and all the guys

1068
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: who come through. They have a lot of wrestlers and stuff.

1069
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: They go hard, man, and I just think that they

1070
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: kind of know how to build a guy the right

1071
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: way so that you can you can handle like that

1072
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: basically to cover up in the Glover. The Glover was

1073
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: excellent to any of your weak spots and make it,

1074
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: turn it into a strength, to put it back into

1075
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: you or realm of where you want it.

1076
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: And that's what he did, man. He made the fight

1077
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: his own.

1078
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: He kind of dictated the terms and he used the

1079
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: range and stuff when he had it because he that's

1080
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: his advantage, right. He was able to use that brilliantly

1081
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: in that fight. And I agree with you one hundred percent.

1082
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: I think that that was his best performance. And now

1083
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: he feels like, I don't know how you feel. I

1084
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: felt like he was the B side a little bit

1085
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: in this matchup, but now it feels like suddenly he's

1086
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 3: one of those prospects you got to keep an eye on.

1087
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: Well, it was against another decent prospect prospect. Yeah, yeah, Malick,

1088
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: like Malick wrestling out of Maryland. Like he had looked

1089
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: really good prior to this one, and I still think

1090
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: there's plenty of potential for him.

1091
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: This was.

1092
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a lot of fights, this was. I mean,

1093
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: let me look it up exactly here. I've got it.

1094
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: Malick has only excuse me, Yeah, he only has eleven

1095
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: fights total.

1096
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: This was. This was his eleventh fights. So I was

1097
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: in education then, you know, educational fight. Yeah, this was

1098
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: a step up.

1099
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, he certainly felt it, and I think he's

1100
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: definitely gonna learn from it. But dude, this was I'm

1101
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: so glad you brought it up to me. It's like,

1102
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: obviously he's good on the feet one, you know, between

1103
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about the Douglas fight.

1104
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: A good jab and a good leg kick.

1105
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: If you have strong fundamentals, you can win a UFC

1106
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: title with just those two things.

1107
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: I swear to God that that is true.

1108
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: I fully believe that, and you saw just you know,

1109
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: did he build more offense around it as the fight

1110
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: went on, Yes, of course, but what set up everything

1111
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 2: the jab in the leg kick.

1112
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1113
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: And then in these wrestling positions, you know, is he

1114
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: objectively stronger than Abdel Mallick and some of these probably

1115
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: you know, like who can bench more or whatever? Maybe

1116
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: maybe not, but in those positions he has clearly worked

1117
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: on how to leverage his strength more maximally. And it's

1118
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: sent like, you're right, dude. Abdell Mallick locked up with

1119
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: him and was like, oh.

1120
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: This is not I can guarantee you. Yeah, six foot

1121
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: six frame, very lanky.

1122
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 3: You think you know, if you come in there and

1123
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 3: the leverage you get low, you're gonna be able to

1124
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: dump the guy. But it was it was you could

1125
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 3: see that that was a problem man, and that I mean,

1126
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: if you get that's what makes it so intriguing. A

1127
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 3: six foot six frame that knows how to you know,

1128
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: kind of keep it in his room, stay on the

1129
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: feet and like, uh, basically kind of make it ugly

1130
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: and where he needs to to stay on his feet.

1131
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: That's going to be a problem for guys. And I

1132
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: think that they obviously getting tape on this guy. Maybe

1133
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 3: other wrestlers handle him differently if they get the chance

1134
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: to fight him. But that was like almost a declaration

1135
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: in my mind of Hey, if you want to put

1136
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: me against a guy who's going to be one sided

1137
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: like he wants, he wants to dictate his will in

1138
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: the wrestling realm, it's going to be a disappointment for

1139
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: you when you try that with me. That was I mean,

1140
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: you rarely see it from a kickboxer coming in and

1141
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: having to learn that side of it. It's usually the

1142
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: wrestler will have an advantage in that situation just because

1143
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: they've you know, a kickboxer doesn't know what to do

1144
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: in that situation, right, Like a kickboxer, the hardest thing

1145
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: for them to do is to adapt to a wrestler.

1146
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: They don't they've never trained wrestling and all that. That's

1147
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: what he's done, though, I think for these last few years.

1148
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he low on the Contender Series to Marco Tulio,

1149
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: which I don't think is a terrible loss, but it's like, yeah, yeah,

1150
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: I think Abdoll Malik is way better than him, and

1151
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: you saw this from him, like he is clearly leveled up. Dude,

1152
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: those fucking guys out of your state, Connecticut, Old Glover man,

1153
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: Old Glover to share a boy man, Yeah.

1154
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: He sure does.

1155
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: Like it's easy to walk away from fighting when you've

1156
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: got like these monsters in your gym here, you're like, well,

1157
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like vicariously go through you guys. But

1158
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he the way that they train in there,

1159
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it's it's like this in other places.

1160
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of coddling going on, you know

1161
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's kind of baptism by fire in

1162
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: that gym. And I mean for some guys that works.

1163
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: And I think that Ustre is one of those guys

1164
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: who came in and it has benefited him tremendously from

1165
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: being a kickboxter in too now like a very well rounded,

1166
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: you know, mixed martial artist.

1167
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: Also, Glover is one of the things that was underappreciated

1168
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 2: about him was he he was not the best guy

1169
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: two five suck. He was never he didn't. He didn't

1170
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: have like that refinement of ability. But one of the

1171
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: things you have to say about Glover's abilities when you

1172
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: watched him fight was he was very technical and He

1173
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 2: was a big believer in fundamentals. His game represented fundamentals

1174
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: as like that's a great point, as like this is

1175
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: this is what counts is doing this. So taking some

1176
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: of these guys and then giving them some like like

1177
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: real like you you need to be good in this

1178
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 2: position no matter what, and then forcing them to do it. Yeah,

1179
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 2: I think it's just it's working out really fucking well.

1180
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: It's great, man, because I do think that the you know,

1181
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: how old is I don't know how a user is

1182
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: not Super year three, Okay, I mean, but you know

1183
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: he's got he's got a run in him, Like if

1184
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 3: he can, if he can put it together in these

1185
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: next couple years, it'd be fun to watch him and

1186
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 3: how far he's able to get.

1187
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Let's move through these as quickly as we can.

1188
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: Hear. Anything to say for Michael Kass's retirement, Not really.

1189
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: It almost seemed to me that Nico Price was booked

1190
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: into this, Like I kind of convinced, you know, in

1191
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: the way that he he didn't put up much of

1192
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: a resistance in this fight. He was almost like they

1193
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: were like, hey, man, don't retire yet. Fight one more.

1194
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 3: So it felt it was just too easy. But I

1195
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, there's always a little bit of a hey man,

1196
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 3: like this is great for a guy who's been around

1197
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: the game. I don't know when he broke in in

1198
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 3: terms of Michael Kissa, but it's been it's been over

1199
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: twelve years. And to give him a good send off

1200
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: like that, we just don't get it. We're just talking

1201
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: about how you don't get graceful outs in this game

1202
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: and he got one.

1203
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: So great for him, man, And then I don't have

1204
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: much to add.

1205
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean people were bitter he got a highlight package

1206
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I mean.

1207
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: He was the UFC gives it to people that they like,

1208
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: what do you want me to say?

1209
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, that's true. And he's like, you know,

1210
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: he's one of their broadcast guys. You know they're going

1211
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: to give him the special treatment.

1212
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: Yep.

1213
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 2: Leke On Douglass just absolutely demolishing, juicy j Juliana Rossa

1214
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: on the feet, takes him off of his feet three times, Chuck.

1215
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: You can see it in the top here with a jab.

1216
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: How legiti of a prospect does he appear to be?

1217
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean he looked pretty legit.

1218
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: This is a dude too, who had like some losses

1219
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 3: in his career, and I think that that sometimes blinds people.

1220
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: They see, oh, he's he's a journeyman guy. He got

1221
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: in the UFC. Okay, but he's got like what four

1222
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: or five losses on his record. He's probably not that great.

1223
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: But then you see that kind of performance, and you

1224
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: see how refined he was in the stand up game,

1225
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: and just how vicious he looked, you know, once he

1226
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: got rolling, and also just how rhythmic it all became,

1227
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 3: like I I to me, that was a huge statement man,

1228
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: Like I would I would definitely be keeping my arm now.

1229
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: He lost via basically like a head kick and the

1230
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: subsequent punches in LFA back in twenty twenty three, and

1231
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: then went on an absolute tear in that organization, winning

1232
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: a title in twenty twenty four, then defending it in

1233
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, stopping Cam Tigue, who I did not

1234
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: see as a particularly difficult threat in the Contender series. However,

1235
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 2: Harry steps into fight Julian Rossa, who is certainly older

1236
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 2: Chuck juicyj is what thirty six not that old actually,

1237
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: but your point, to your point, Douglass, just thirty years

1238
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: of age, so certainly had some you know, tripped up

1239
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: early but since that last one, you can just tell

1240
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: has clearly decided to level up.

1241
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: Arosa may have been like the best dance partner for

1242
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: him too, just given that he was going to kind

1243
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: of accommodate the style that would that he could showcase

1244
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: on like that that that seemed like it was an

1245
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: evidence as well. There were some good exchanges in that fight,

1246
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 3: you know.

1247
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, but it was I mean,

1248
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: it was for the most part one way traffic.

1249
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.

1250
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, I mean, what is

1251
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: there to say about Terrence McKinney, Chuck.

1252
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: The evil Knievel of MMA. This guy, look at it,

1253
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: he gets up.

1254
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the most amazing part to me

1255
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: about Keep this picture up. Look at the top photo

1256
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: here of Kyle Nelson. He's raising a leg to Annie's

1257
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 2: getting his arm down. Annie's burying his head. The foot

1258
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: even of McKenny even lands on the shoulder, and it

1259
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: still does enough to rock.

1260
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Him the shoulder. Was it the shoulder the winner in

1261
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: the chin?

1262
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: Because it did look like his head snapped as this happened,

1263
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: Like mss must have been a connective impact there or something.

1264
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean.

1265
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: He's got to be one of the like you you mentioned,

1266
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: like is he one of the most exciting fighters or

1267
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 3: is the most fun fighter in the UFC. He's got

1268
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 3: to be up there, right. The dudes fought twenty six

1269
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: pro fights and he's there's never went to a judge's scorecards.

1270
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean that that tells you, and that so that

1271
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: tells you that he's going to play roulette with whoever

1272
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: he stands in there against. He has plenty of losses,

1273
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: but you just know he's going to deliver on something right,

1274
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna either go in there and get knocked out,

1275
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: or he's going to knock somebody out, or it's going

1276
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: to be something crazy and we're gonna be talking about it.

1277
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: The more astonishing thing for him, man, is that in

1278
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 3: those twenty whatever amount it is in the UFC, he's

1279
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: never won a performance at the night bonus. If anything,

1280
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: he's a good look charm for the UFC because his

1281
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: performances are always good. But he's always on very good cards.

1282
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: And I kind of look back he's been on like Elliot,

1283
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: it's a pitious cards. And you know some of these

1284
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: like where they just had like incredible performances and you're like, well, McKinny,

1285
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 3: it's bad luck. But it's also like when he's on

1286
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 3: a card, it seems to deliver the whole card.

1287
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Does here's his run if you count Contender series and UFC.

1288
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna read everything, just just the rounds, ready,

1289
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: So round two, Round one, Round one, Round one, Round one,

1290
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Round two, Round two, Round one, Round one, Round one,

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Speaker 2: Round one, Round one, Round one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, round one, Round one. He's not even a three?

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Speaker 1: Did you even name it? Three? No?

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Speaker 3: He hasn't touched on this third round. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm waiting to see. What does he do in

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Speaker 2: this UFC Seattle card. We'll talk about the preliminary side

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Speaker 2: of things. Actually, yeah, I'll go to you first. I'll

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Speaker 2: go to you first, Chut, what should have?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Musaiav and bab Mondes fight?

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00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: A fun fight in general, Musaiav gets the nod, but

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00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: there's a fair amount of cheating that happens between fence grabbing,

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: headbutting and the like what how do you understand what

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: happened here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean watching it in real time, the most

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Speaker 3: pivotal moment in that fight, do you guys hear me? Yeah, okay,

1338
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 3: I saw that this thing was like, okay, the most

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00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: pivotal moment in the fight was I think second round, right,

1340
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: and uh Bahamandez is getting like he looks like he

1341
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: has a chance to either put the fight out, like

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: he can finish the fight, or he's going to put

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Speaker 3: himself in a dominant position by suplexing him off that,

1344
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: you know, off the fence. The obvious It was so

1345
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: obvious that fence grab that it changed the momentum of

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00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: that fight. And it's rare that you see something that

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 3: blake and go unpunished where it actually swings the momentum

1348
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: in the reverse favor. And then later in that round

1349
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: there's an obvious headbutt and you see this Land and

1350
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: you're like, okay, what is happening? It almost was like

1351
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 3: bam meanders was you know, And it's some kind of

1352
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: like bad dream, like a nightmare because what was happening,

1353
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: Like he went from winning that fight to losing it

1354
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: to getting bloodied up and bludgeoned at the end.

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Speaker 1: What a turn of events.

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Speaker 3: And I honestly I was racking my brain to remember

1357
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Speaker 3: something where it changed that drastically off a fence grab.

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Speaker 1: Can you come up with a fight that did?

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Speaker 3: I know, we've had some bad ones in the past,

1360
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: but like in a moment of clear offense where you

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Speaker 3: have the moment to put a guy away or to

1362
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Speaker 3: at least really establish and dominate with the position, and

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Speaker 3: the fence grab changes everything.

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Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke come on in this one where on

1365
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Speaker 2: all time fence grabs relative. Chuck's question, are you and

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Speaker 2: also what did you make of this fight?

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Speaker 1: Well? I told you pre show that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was, you know, gone few beers in

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: twenty bond hits and by the time this fight is happening,

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Speaker 4: I didn't even notice the fence grab in real time.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going, Wow, what a war. This is a

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Speaker 1: crazy fight. But again, you know, I'm juggling, I'm reading

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Speaker 1: the chat. You know, I'm doing a bunch of shit.

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Speaker 4: So I'm really not a good person to ask for

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Speaker 4: that as far as it changing the momentum of like,

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Speaker 4: as far as egregious fence grabs and UFC history, I'm

1377
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: really trying to think of a different one.

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: There was, like, there's got to be one. I gotta go.

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01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: There're so ubiquitous that it's honestly it is hard to remember.

1380
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Speaker 3: But but one that just clearly one eighties the fight

1381
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 3: from where it was heading to something else like that's

1382
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: it's that was drastic.

1383
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if the Commission would do

1384
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: anything about it, because at the end of the day,

1385
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: it's they give so much latitude to referees to be

1386
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: shitty that Yeah, I don't know the I don't even

1387
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: know if this is reviewable. But if I was bombed

1388
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: one as this team, I would absolutely be bringing this up.

1389
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Speaker 2: Chase Hooper has now been stopped twice in two fights.

1390
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Speaker 2: What do you what do you think here?

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01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: What? What?

1392
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 2: What lesson can we in for from the results in

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: this one?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it feel like?

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he started very young, but it

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01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: feels to me like he's got to bulk up a

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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know, I like this this particular fight. Who's

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Speaker 1: the Who's the cat?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Who's Lance Gipson Junior? Lance Gibson kind of

1401
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: knew what he was going to do. It was obviously

1402
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: he knew what he was going to do. They had

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Speaker 3: a plan to counter it, and that plan worked, and

1404
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 3: it didn't feel like Chase had a plan B of

1405
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: his own. And so like he just went in there,

1406
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, trying to get the fight to where he's

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01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: comfortable and you know, on the ground and where he's

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: got some submissions and we know he's very good, but

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01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: he couldn't do it. And then that's what gets him

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01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 3: in trouble in the end, is just kind of selling

1411
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: out for was it a big elbow?

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01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: Right?

1413
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Like a big elbow he ate in close and then

1414
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 3: like that changes the fight. And I feel like in

1415
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: his last fight too, uh, he was fighting Alexander Hernandez,

1416
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: he wasn't able to kind of get it into his

1417
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 3: realm and then he gets knocked out in that fight

1418
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 3: as well. It just seems to me like if you

1419
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 3: need if you're going to dictate, if you want to

1420
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: put the fight where you need it, you need to

1421
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: bulk up a little bit. I just feel like he's

1422
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: not able to get the fight where he wants it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just I agree in general, and

1424
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: I think, you know, just working on his athleticism through

1425
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: training is really I think quite important, both for like

1426
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: static isometric strength as well as you know, working on reflexes.

1427
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Speaker 2: And I mean one of the people always think like, oh,

1428
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: being rangy is good.

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01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: Being rangy is good if you know how to use range, But.

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Speaker 2: If you don't, it's actually like yeah, no, no, no, you know,

1431
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: if you but if you're tall and you're not like

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01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, if you're Stephan struving it, you're just gonna

1433
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: get bombed.

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Speaker 1: On, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's was he twenty six, he's still

1436
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: very young. He's like, I know, he's in his six,

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01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 3: twenty six years old, and you're like, you can't He's

1438
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 3: got time to do what we're talking about. He's got

1439
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: time to put some tools together and to get better

1440
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: into bulk up and to like you know, get gettle

1441
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: more a little more wily in there, maybe like mix

1442
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: things up a little more to fool his guys. But

1443
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: you know, I always, I always kind of point to

1444
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 3: Charles Oliver, who started very young, and I think he

1445
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: was I look the up, he was eight four and

1446
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: one through thirteen fights. Chase Hoopers thirteen fights in he's

1447
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 3: eight and five. If you want to look to guys

1448
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: who were able to put stuff together, look to guys

1449
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: like Charles olivera right who made a crazy career after

1450
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: a kind of an inauspicious beginning.

1451
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: And Chase Hooper's got time.

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01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 3: I just think he's got to like dedicate himself to

1453
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 3: some aspects of the game and then he, you know,

1454
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: well get himself a little more well rounded.

1455
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would largely agree with that.

1456
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 2: Then we have Okay, give me your score for the

1457
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: Ricky Simone versus uh Adrian jan Yez fight.

1458
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: I had Yanez so okay. The first round on this

1459
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: scorecards is where it all went wacky, right, because I

1460
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: had Janaz winning. I thought, I mean, I was a

1461
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 3: close round, but I thought it was definitive enough. But

1462
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 3: then you see these scorecards and you're like, okay, wait

1463
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 3: a minute, this is we're all off on the wrong

1464
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: foot here, or at least us who believe that Janas

1465
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: was winning the fight. So I either had it twenty

1466
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 3: nine to twenty eight Janaz or twenty nine twenty seven.

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 3: If you wanted to give that ten eight at the

1468
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily think you had to, because the the

1469
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 3: finishing moment came at the very end. It wasn't like

1470
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 3: he had him at death's door for like a minute

1471
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: of that fight before it ended or something like that.

1472
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: So the ten to nine score I would have been

1473
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: okay with. But either way, Janis wins either twenty nine

1474
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: twenty eight or twenty nine twenty seven.

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think twenty nine twenty eight.

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01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: I could even see a draw if you to me,

1477
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 2: it's one in three Yan Yeas third round ten eight,

1478
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: although in one of the cards that only gave him

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01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: ten nine, right, but I could so for me, it's

1480
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 2: round two, simone, round three ten eight, Yan, Yes, like,

1481
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: no question about it. Yeah, question is round one. I

1482
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: think you can go either way on it. It really

1483
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: just depends, but like death, so I don't hate that

1484
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 2: it was a draw. The thing that felt unfair was that,

1485
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: like by Pride rules, like who won the fight overall

1486
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: has clearly yan Yas won the fight overall under that.

1487
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: That's the Stockton rules as well. That's the way an ideas.

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01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: Uh well, but you know what, it is an interesting

1489
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 2: way of thinking about a fight, like there's you know,

1490
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: like dividing it up by rounds and then counting who

1491
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: won those without a consideration like you're just judging each

1492
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: as a individual unit. This has many benefits, but it

1493
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 2: has downsides too because it doesn't capture like that scoring criteria.

1494
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: I can't capture the example clear essence of the fight.

1495
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: And also I'll say this for you, and yes, people

1496
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: were kind of burying him, and I was a little

1497
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: bit worried too, to be honest with you. But that

1498
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: was I think, in general, pretty resilient performance from him.

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Speaker 2: Especially in the third round.

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Speaker 3: It was like suddenly like if there was a lot

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: a lack of confidence or maybe a little bit of

1502
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 3: a gun shy feeling towards I don't know what, like

1503
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 3: you saw it a little bit in the first round,

1504
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: second round certainly like he got kind of nullified. But

1505
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: that third round, man, he found a rhythm, he found

1506
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: his range, he was landing, those shots were clean. He

1507
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: almost puts them away at the end to come in

1508
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: in the third round and really take it at that point.

1509
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: Man, that was I thought that that was eye opening. Yes,

1510
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: I totally agree.

1511
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: So I think he unfortunately does not get the nod,

1512
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: but he definitely showed me there's still a little bit

1513
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: of gas in that tank for sure. All right, okay,

1514
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: what the fuck marching Tybora Tyrrell fortune Man, Chuck, Chuck.

1515
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: I don't know about old Buffy. Dude.

1516
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Buffer might be losing this fastball, y'all.

1517
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying to kill him,

1518
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: but this is a great like look at that. Yeah,

1519
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: I know, man, Ever, since this was.

1520
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: Bad, dude, because like the guy left the fucking cage,

1521
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: they had to call him.

1522
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 3: Back like that was bad. You know, Bruce has never

1523
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: been the same. So was it UFC one hundred when

1524
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 3: he tore his a cl trying to do the three sixty?

1525
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: Remember that? Yes, yes, that was the beginning.

1526
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: And no, I do you know that's a lot of

1527
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 3: shows that that dude, That dude has gone through and uh,

1528
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: you would expect some mistakes, but that these types of

1529
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: mistakes are always so bad, aren't they.

1530
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: Again the Long Island you had a story about this

1531
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: one too, right, I bet on marching Tya.

1532
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 5: So they they say ty Bora and I'm celebrating, and

1533
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 5: then and then they're just staring at him, and I'm like, oh,

1534
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 5: he's waiting for a post fight.

1535
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: Interview and they don't want to give him one.

1536
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 5: But no if they were waiting to call back Tyrrell Fortune.

1537
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, the whole card was wacky with that.

1538
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give a fuck about the fight. Although

1539
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: I thought Fortune was the rightful winner too, I was like,

1540
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: what the fuck?

1541
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 3: The only thing the only thing with him is remember

1542
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 3: when he came up and Bellatorre was kind of like

1543
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 3: they had signed this pack of wrestlers and we were like, okay, man,

1544
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 3: this is this could be the future. They might have

1545
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys. Aaron Pico and these guys that

1546
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: are going to do something. Stuck him on it, and

1547
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: it's like they never got out of that prelim mode,

1548
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: you know, And here we are with this was his debut, right, like,

1549
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 3: this was his debut in the UC and.

1550
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Still on the prelims.

1551
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes, it's just been insanely strange to

1552
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: watch that Casey O'Neil gets an absolute barn. We talked

1553
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 2: about the women's of m A side. This was another

1554
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: example of that, where Casey O'Neill beating Gabriella Fernandez Fernandez

1555
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: however you say it properly just bodying her. And this

1556
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: is what I love, Chuck, is that you know, I've

1557
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: been waiting for, like so often these women's fights that

1558
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 2: are like you could say, you could say they're competitive

1559
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 2: because there are a lot of you know, twenty nine

1560
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: to twenty eighths or split decisions or whatever. But the

1561
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 2: problem with these fights have been that one of them

1562
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 2: is not effectuating change on the fight, like they're just

1563
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 2: kind of doing a little bit to each other over

1564
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: the course of fifteen minutes. Whereas in this one and

1565
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: certainly in the Comaine right, like they put the fucking

1566
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: boot to their opponent. That's what I've been waiting.

1567
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: To see, you know, you know, And doesn't that like

1568
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 3: when you talk about the overall product you know of

1569
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 3: a car like a fight night if you get too

1570
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 3: crazy finishes in the women's ranks because I fairly or

1571
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 3: unfairly like, you look at those and you're like, okay,

1572
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 3: those may that may be a distance fight, and in

1573
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: the prospect of it, you're like, well, you know, these

1574
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: fights may not be that, they may not stand out,

1575
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: but they both stood out right like, and I think

1576
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: that that's big when you have an event like to

1577
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 3: get unexpected results like that. Cases she's always kind of

1578
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 3: been like a you know, a nasty fight. She goes

1579
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 3: in there and she wants to throw down. But good

1580
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 3: for her to kind of get something that was the

1581
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 3: first round, right like that was in the first round.

1582
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 3: So yes, it good for her to kind of, you know,

1583
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: showcase that way. I felt like she needed that long island.

1584
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: Should I care that Nava host Sterling be Bruno Lopez?

1585
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: No, but I did cash the over one and a

1586
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: half and Sterling by Ko and that lets go lunches

1587
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: on on island.

1588
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Casey O'Neil got robbed, dude, Casey O'Neil should have

1589
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 5: got the performance bonus.

1590
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: It's honestly, it's about McKenny, that poor guy.

1591
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 4: Sure, Terrence McKinney should have too, you know, I mean no,

1592
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 4: but let's be real Terrence wasn't as aesthetically pleasing as

1593
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 4: Casey's was.

1594
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 5: Casey and Grosso should have got the bonuses. They give

1595
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 5: it to Joe Pifer, like Joe Pifer, nice win. Wait

1596
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 5: a minute, Grasso didn't get it. No, no, Grasso did. Okay,

1597
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 5: I was like, what but with Joe Pifer and I

1598
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 5: feel you should have gone to both girls.

1599
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Fight of the night was Mussaiah Bahamundai's Rifley. So that

1600
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: was a banger.

1601
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good fight, just weird that it

1602
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: went the way it did because of laytant cheating. Okay, yeah,

1603
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: uh so that What is the UFC Seattle card? Quite

1604
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: a fun one. Let's go to topic number four. If

1605
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: we can't hear Chuck pfl Pittsburgh, honestly they had a

1606
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: great night too. Let's start with that main event. Johnny

1607
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: Eblin bulldozed Brian Battle. I mean, this was one way traffic.

1608
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: If ever there was one gets it in the first round,

1609
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: chokes him from the back. That's the whole show. Let's

1610
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: ask though, how redemptive to Eblin stock was this victory?

1611
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was great, Like, we know the dude

1612
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 3: is a competitor, like he's gonna be that guy. He's

1613
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: coming off a loss in which he was kind of

1614
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, he was winning that fight. He was when

1615
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: he was going and going away until he gets caught

1616
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 3: in the last minute against Costello Vansinaz ends up losing.

1617
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 3: This felt to me like a little bit of a

1618
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: buzzsaw moment, because if you got a competitor like that,

1619
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 3: they just they pin their ears back and they get

1620
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 3: back to work. And a guy who's wrestled like that

1621
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: is just like, I'm going back to what works for me.

1622
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 3: And you knew that this was coming, and I think

1623
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 3: that the in that sense, I thought it was fully

1624
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: redemptive for Eblin to show like, hey man, I am

1625
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: not going anywhere. I'm still the most dominant middleweight in

1626
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: this in this promotion. The more glaringous side of it

1627
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 3: was the lack of resistance right from Brian Battle. I

1628
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: think that he you know, I talked to him before

1629
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: the fight and there was just some there's red flags

1630
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 3: with guys who are taking a wrestler like what they

1631
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: don't understand that they're kind of going into a buzzsaw

1632
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 3: a little bit and they're like, ah, that she's just

1633
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 3: a name to me, man. I'm gonna be able to

1634
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 3: do what I do in there, and you're thinking that's

1635
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 3: probably not the right mindset going into this fight, and uh,

1636
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 3: and it certainly played out. I actually, when after I

1637
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 3: talked to Brian Battle, I felt pretty convinced that Eblin

1638
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: would win. I did not think it would look that easy.

1639
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: I mean, on Friday's MK, I was I've said it,

1640
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: you can look it up. It's not that I didn't.

1641
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't curious about Brian Battle. I was curious, but

1642
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 2: I was not. I was because the fan basic responded

1643
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: really favorably to him before he left the UFC in

1644
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: a way that kind of surprised me. And because they

1645
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: were all like, well, you got it. This guy's marching

1646
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 2: people downla blah blah blah. And I'm like, that's true,

1647
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: the long jab, powerful puncher, Like again, there's reasons for enthusiasm,

1648
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: but he hadn't beaten anybody good. And I was like, well,

1649
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing here?

1650
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1651
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: Uh, and then he goes up against Evelyn. To your point,

1652
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 2: who's not just a competitor. You know, you could comfortably

1653
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: put Eblin in top ten middleweight division of UFC, and

1654
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: it's just a dogged wrestler. Randy Brown took Battle down

1655
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: twice in the first round of their thing.

1656
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm like it did.

1657
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: If Randy Brown is taking you down like that, I

1658
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: fucking Johnny Eblin is going to put you into the woodschipper,

1659
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: And that is exactly what he fucking did. So I

1660
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: don't you know, you can question the value of the

1661
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: win in the sense of Battle is good, but against

1662
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: this kind of calor of opponent is definitely untested. But

1663
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I think it's pretty redemptive for Eblin.

1664
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 2: He needed a dominant, good, okay, solid win and he

1665
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 2: got it. And I think that that is clearly he's

1666
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 2: the next guy for Van steinas in a very strange way,

1667
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: Brian Battle's you know, kind of trajector because he he

1668
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: was like six'.

1669
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: One in one or something like that.

1670
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 3: In the UFC misses wait a couple of times, you know,

1671
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 3: and the second time as a middleweight, he still comes

1672
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: in over and they they part ways, but they were

1673
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,879
Speaker 3: trying to book him for the fight that got canceled

1674
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 3: in Chicago. I'm trying to remember the guy they had

1675
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 3: him against, a guy who would have probably exposed Brian

1676
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: Battle in the exact way that Eblin did, and I

1677
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: was kind of when the fight was supposed to happen,

1678
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: I thought that was maybe going to be the case.

1679
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 3: It's almost like he got he bought some time though,

1680
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: to build up his own cult to personality over that time,

1681
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 3: because he goes over to dirty boxing, stands in there

1682
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 3: and is you know, was able to you know, have

1683
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 3: some exposure and kind of like land on his feet

1684
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: and then he ends up in a main event in

1685
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: PFL and I kind of felt like what we were saying,

1686
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: like obviously this was not a good matchup for him,

1687
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: but it was like, dude, I don't know if he

1688
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: was If he if he goes through with that fight

1689
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: in the UFC, probably none of this happens. It almost

1690
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: like bottom this year, like this kind of strange victory

1691
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 3: lap over the last year.

1692
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been kind of weird. Well, that one

1693
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: came to a screeching halt. Nevertheless, Brian Battles still good

1694
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: signing for PFL. I think still can be a part

1695
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: of some fun fights there. I don't think it's a

1696
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: bad thing that he's part of that organization. I just

1697
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: think Evelyn put out a reminder being like right, I'm

1698
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do things this division that only

1699
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 2: a couple of guys at PFL are gonna be able

1700
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: to deal with, if at all.

1701
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 3: Rusov, Right, that's that's who the guy that the Long

1702
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: Island is supposed to.

1703
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the guy.

1704
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: I mean, if we didn't find out against Eblin, we're

1705
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 3: gonna find out at that moment, right.

1706
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, good point.

1707
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 2: Uh In Kasanga and I in the comain. I'll tell

1708
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: you what, man, look at this photo, bro, look at

1709
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: this photo of him just gyrating and cavorting people.

1710
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, in that in that octagon.

1711
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stops fucking a Dalton Rosta in the first

1712
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 2: round just three minutes and eighteen seconds. Dalton Rosta from

1713
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,919
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh area. PFL was in Pittsburgh. Unfortunately, IMPA silenced

1714
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: the crowd, which was not great. However, however, I gotta

1715
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: tell you, dude, Implicasang and I just continues to be

1716
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: a part of, like, I don't know, memorable fights, memorable action.

1717
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1718
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: So what do they do here with him? Do they

1719
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: give him a title shot? What do you think?

1720
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: I mean, they've seem to think so on the broadcast,

1721
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean, the the Eblin fight like if Evelyn and

1722
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 3: obviously he showcased very well, but you're like to put

1723
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 3: him against Costello, right, It's it's an obvious slam dunk.

1724
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: It's the way the fight down went down. It was

1725
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 3: almost cinematic storybook ending for one guy. You give the

1726
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: other guy the chance to get it back, but you

1727
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 3: do set up the possibility of a trilogy all that stuff.

1728
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 3: I would almost like put that on the back burner.

1729
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: You got Castella, like he just went into Spain and

1730
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 3: we were talking about this and kind of, you know,

1731
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 3: a tailor made event was able to win against Babe

1732
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 3: and Edwards capitalize on that a little bit. I think

1733
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 3: you would have a very fun fight if you were

1734
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 3: to put him against Impa right, Like, I think if

1735
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: you put those two guys together, that's a fun fight,

1736
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 3: but you still have that Eblin fight in the future.

1737
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: That would be the way that I would handle it

1738
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: if I'm the PFL. But it'd be interesting to see

1739
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: if they just automatically run back. Sometimes you're like, do

1740
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 3: you want to be in business with Costello Vansinas who

1741
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: they took to Spain and they think that they believe

1742
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 3: that he's got a little bit of the you know

1743
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 3: that kind of Spanish. You know that that rabid fan

1744
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 3: base is like part of what's happening. So they've got

1745
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: a guy who represents more than just a champion. Or

1746
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 3: do you want to be in the Eblin business where

1747
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 3: you know they were they've been at Belator was in

1748
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 3: it and you're like, well, that's good. He's a very

1749
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: dominant guy, but maybe not a needle mover. If if

1750
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: you're thinking like that, I'm putting him in that in

1751
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 3: that title fight.

1752
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

1753
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: Uh Impkasanganai's last UFC fight was against Carlston Harris. Oh wow,

1754
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: and he lost in the first round. Uh, getting punched

1755
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: out and then finished off on the ground. It's like, dude,

1756
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: they rematch today. Who's picking Carlston Harris?

1757
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 3: Nobody? I forgot all about that fight. But that's that's

1758
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: good on him.

1759
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 1: Again.

1760
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 3: There are certain guys who go over and they make

1761
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 3: the most of their transition, right like they they He's

1762
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 3: he'll always be part of that Joquing Buckley, you know

1763
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: footage forever, the b roll like it's it's going to

1764
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: exist forever. But he has been like you said, man,

1765
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: there's something about him. You see his name and it's

1766
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 3: it's all, it's not in the it's it almost has

1767
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 3: that feeling of something will happen, right, Like something good,

1768
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 3: something wild is going to happen in his fight.

1769
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you want with a guy like that.

1770
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: For sure.

1771
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: With Dalton Rosta, I feel bad, but like it's kind

1772
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,879
Speaker 2: of you know, like students of the game pay attention.

1773
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 2: Rasta over commits and Kasanga and I makes him pay

1774
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: for it positionally with his feet, I mean. And then

1775
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 2: same thing with Macy Barber chucks. She over commits and

1776
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 2: then has to get back up a little bit with yourself.

1777
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: Is it just dunk?

1778
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 3: Is it straight dunked them that they do this like

1779
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: it's going to be teached out of it, because I

1780
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 3: feel like it.

1781
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: Can definitely be teached out or taught out. It's just

1782
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: you got to have the right. I mean, the student has.

1783
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: To want it and the teacher has to demand it.

1784
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: And I often find that that's not the case. It

1785
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: isn't boxing, but it's not the case in MMA. You

1786
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 2: gotta remember, though, like it's a tough thing to do.

1787
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: Pressure in MMA yields so many rewards that getting people

1788
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: to not pressure is hard, Like pressuring just the right amount.

1789
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 2: It's actually much more difficult than it looks. Uh, and

1790
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 2: so that's why these guys just jump into range, you

1791
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because it seems like it's forcefull

1792
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: and it's immediate, but it's also just reckless against somebody

1793
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 2: who can punch your LIFs.

1794
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: Did you think you'd fare better better?

1795
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 3: I mean, like when you the promotion risks something, when

1796
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: they're like, all right, you're from Pittsburgh, gonna put you

1797
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: on a comin event against a guy who's could like

1798
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: silence the room, and I mean everybody kind of knew that.

1799
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: Did you think that it would be a closer fight

1800
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: than it ended up being?

1801
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I still would have favored Kasank and I what

1802
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: were the pre fight odds on that one?

1803
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: Long aland do you know.

1804
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dalton was like a minus one eighty five inpo

1805
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 4: was like plus one fifty.

1806
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rosta was coming in off of a fucking loss.

1807
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1808
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I thought that it would be kind

1809
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: of a back and forth fight, like you'd see some

1810
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: fireworks both ways, just guy fighting, no someter, But it

1811
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: ended up being you're we were talking about the you know,

1812
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 3: craziest women fights. Reminded me of the Jessica eye when

1813
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 3: she got knocked out. Wasn't that in Cleveland? I feel

1814
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 3: like it was in Cleveland she fought Valentino, but I

1815
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 3: could be wrong about that. But wherever it was, it

1816
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: shut the like it was like it was more of

1817
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: like a oh my god, what did I just see

1818
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 3: when jess guy went down?

1819
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: After that headgag?

1820
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 2: The rest of the card maybe up to your interest.

1821
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: Josh Fremmed got a very nice stoppage over Al Salawe.

1822
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure to say his first name, so there's

1823
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: some interesting moments on that one. I will say that

1824
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: this young up and coming twenty four year old prospect

1825
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 2: Alexei Paragonde pra Gone. I'm not sure he pronounced his name.

1826
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 2: I gotta start watching these broadcasts with the volume up. Yeah,

1827
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: he'd beat Arse Arse arguably made a run back in

1828
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: the third round, but nevertheless of twenty four at eight, No, no,

1829
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good win by him.

1830
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: Are you have two TV set up? Like? Or is

1831
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: all of it?

1832
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 3: Because I went from the UFC over to PFL and

1833
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: it was kind of already on the comain, but I

1834
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 3: didn't have two TV setups.

1835
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: I had to watch it after the fact because I

1836
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: went out to my post fight show, so I was

1837
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: actually I was getting updates.

1838
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: About it when I was doing Diligent. I know, well,

1839
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: gotta make that money, you know what I'm saying. Very

1840
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: quickly before we go to topic number five, Let's talk

1841
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: about our good friends at I got it right here.

1842
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 1: How about this Clervo.

1843
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: Yes, April eighth, you can join us again in studio.

1844
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be a fun ass time April eighth.

1845
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: That's right when we get ready for UFC three twenty seven.

1846
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: From face off to final decision, Fight Night delivers the

1847
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: adrenaline and Quervo the energy to match it. Whether you're

1848
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: hosting your crew at home or catching the action at

1849
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: a bar, Quervo brings the good vibes that turn every

1850
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 2: round into a celebration. From Margarita's to Palomas, every main

1851
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: event simply tastes better with the world's most iconic tequila.

1852
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: No matter who.

1853
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Walks out with the belt with Quervo in hand, everybody,

1854
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 2: you're already celebrating like an undisputed champion for every round.

1855
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: Keep it fun, keep it.

1856
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 2: Quervo, and we're gonna be enjoying some querrevo April eighth,

1857
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: April eighth in New York City to get you ready

1858
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 2: for UFC three twenty seven. It's always the best, all right,

1859
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: very good, big thanks to our friends at Quervo. Let's

1860
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: go to topic number five here if we can chuck

1861
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 2: just combat sports from around the weekend. There was a

1862
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: lot going on in all of this. So one of

1863
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: my favorite results this weekend, I mean, Moses e Tama

1864
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: just absolutely sending. You could see it here, Jermaine Franklin

1865
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: to the fucking Land of Winding ghosts, twenty one years old, dude,

1866
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: true or false, chuck in either MMA or boxing, Moses

1867
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 2: Etama is the most exciting thing in heavyweight combat sports.

1868
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean we've still got marchenz Heborah. Let

1869
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: me thank here.

1870
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: No, I mean, come on, in the UFC, it's like

1871
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: in the UFC, there's nobody right now who's matching this.

1872
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 3: And honestly, in boxing, when you get a young dude

1873
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,440
Speaker 3: like this, I mean I hate them. Mike Tyson references

1874
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: to stuff like this. But you see an uppercut from

1875
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 3: a twenty one year old guy, does it not remind

1876
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: you of before? Trevor Burberck, like kind of the the

1877
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: Marvin Frasier type. The guys he was just knocking out

1878
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 3: before he got to that moment, and you're like, this

1879
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: dude is coming. That's exciting. When you see young guys

1880
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: do this, it's always very exciting. And dude, look at

1881
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 3: that knockout, the spray that comes off of him, and

1882
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 3: just the stagger. I mean, lile, what look at this boom.

1883
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 3: It's almost like you see the ghosts come out. But uh,

1884
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: it's that's just that's phenomenal stuff he uses. Even in

1885
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 3: the Dillian White right league, he's he's he uses his

1886
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 3: spotlight really well, the little the escalation and talent stuff

1887
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: on guys he's face and who should give him more

1888
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: problems and they're not at all.

1889
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: That's exciting stuff. Man. Yeah, he sets up shots.

1890
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: You know, he takes his time, he picks his punches,

1891
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: but he's fast, he's athletic.

1892
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 3: Holy shit, boys like he just looks like it's not

1893
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 3: even bothered by it. You know, he's ready for the moment.

1894
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 2: He looked incredible. All right, let's go to what our

1895
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: friend of the show, Brian Campbell, was commentating this weekend.

1896
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: Sebastian Fundora basically stops Keith Thurman, I believe a six

1897
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 2: round stoppage and not it didn't just stop. It mean,

1898
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 2: this is basically a pretty good indication this is the

1899
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: final sequence obviously, Chuck. But like it was, I mean,

1900
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: Thurman got bombed on here. This was you know, kind

1901
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: of hard to watch, to be honest with you, a

1902
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: little bit, at least at least the last couple of

1903
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: rounds when it was starting to go real fucking.

1904
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: Bad for him.

1905
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,799
Speaker 2: Has Sebastian Fundora, who looks like a gigantic praying mantis.

1906
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: He does, Man, is he convinced you to take him seriously?

1907
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: Now? I think so.

1908
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: Man, it was a six foot six at one hundred

1909
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 3: and fifty four like fighting it. Yes, it's just it's

1910
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: such a it's a it's a bizarre a praying mantis

1911
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,799
Speaker 3: is exactly what I say it. But man, he he's

1912
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 3: he's in there now, and there are fun fights. Did

1913
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 3: you just see it looks like they just made the

1914
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: Boots Zayas fight by the way, Yeah, yes, no oh,

1915
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean I was actually gonna say, like one of

1916
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: those types of fighters might be a lot of fun

1917
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 3: for him, But but that fight's a great one too.

1918
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm not taking anyway away. I think that that's a

1919
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 3: very fun fight. I think that you should take Fundora

1920
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 3: the serious. I mean, it's it's fun to You've got

1921
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 3: like the sibling between him and his sister, kind of

1922
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 3: ruling two sides of the boxing world. And yeah, man,

1923
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing more from this kid.

1924
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: I thought he was great. The only thing that wasn't

1925
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: so great was after the fight. I don't know if

1926
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: you saw this, he basically was like, you know, I'll

1927
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: fight anyone, but you know he's going to prioritize a

1928
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 2: PBC opponent. And it's like, dude, Fundora is I believe

1929
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: the regular, like the normal WBC champion. Virgil Ortiz is

1930
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: the interim one right of the same weight class, same

1931
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: sanctioning org. And he's like, oh, I don't want to

1932
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 2: fight Virgul because he's not PBC.

1933
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'm like, boxers, this is the worst time.

1934
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little late now. I suppose maybe

1935
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anymore.

1936
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: But like while they're going through Congress to get laws

1937
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: rewritten about how this shit's gonna go, these guys are like, yeah,

1938
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: I still don't want to fight outside of people in

1939
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 2: my organization.

1940
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: You're you guys, you deserve what's coming to you, you

1941
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1942
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 3: Also, such a buzzkill on the microphone to do that,

1943
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: like you're like, dude, just let people believe that it

1944
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 3: might happen at least, why you don't have to express that,

1945
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, just lie to us. That is the

1946
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 3: fight to make. That is the fight to make. Now

1947
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: that the other guys, yeah.

1948
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: Arvin sar Yuki in side Quest Chuck, they keep yielding

1949
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: good results.

1950
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: He wins nine to three.

1951
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 2: Over Georgia o'poulis, and he gets watch here, he's gonna

1952
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: pinch him down right here, and then he's gonna go

1953
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 2: to the back and scoop around and here comes a

1954
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 2: four point throw boom. So he closed it out. He

1955
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 2: was five to three and that made it nine to three.

1956
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: He wins the rivalry. I don't know, you still enjoying

1957
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: these What do they do for you?

1958
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I am, but it's like it's it's kind

1959
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: of new. I've told you before, you know you. I

1960
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 3: confess I don't watch a ton like I should watch

1961
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: the n C Double A's as they're kind of happening.

1962
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 3: I know you you check in on those, I just

1963
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 3: don't do it. So even the scoring and stuff like

1964
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: what we're what we're looking at, especially tactically, I'm like,

1965
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know what everything that's going on.

1966
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 3: But dude, when he makes that and it's a four

1967
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,639
Speaker 3: point and it's in a fairly close match at that point,

1968
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 3: and it brings the house alive. I mean that's kind

1969
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 3: of fun, isn't it. Like I thought it was a

1970
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: cool moment. RAF puts on good shows. Yeah, Yeah, their

1971
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 3: matchmakers are clever there. I really like their products. Yeah,

1972
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 3: and they got like a big show. Their next one

1973
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 3: is like Morob is on it and uh in Philadelphia.

1974
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just I love to see these guys

1975
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: kind of thrown into the You It's it's kind of

1976
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 3: a reverse way of looking at wrestling, like you see

1977
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: it filtered in through MMA and then you're like, okay, wait,

1978
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 3: now let's just strip it down to its essence and

1979
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 3: watch these guys that I'm at.

1980
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun to do it this way. It

1981
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: certainly is. Uh.

1982
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: Colby Covington gets the win over Dylan Danis. Here's the

1983
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: end of it via tech Fall. For folks who don't

1984
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: know what tech Fall is that basically means mercy rule

1985
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 2: when you just absolutely I mean it's twelve at the

1986
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: n C douable as I forget what it was for Raf,

1987
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: but you know, look at this, he's gonna he's gonna

1988
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: turn him here. This is called a gut wrench right there, boom,

1989
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, just just beating the bags off of him.

1990
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:27,720
Speaker 3: He just ran out of gas. And it seemed like

1991
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 3: that like he didn't have the stamina to it's. I mean,

1992
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 3: he started off, it started off a little more competitive,

1993
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 3: but just as it went on, it felt like he

1994
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: had nothing for Kobe.

1995
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, these guys who've been wrestling since they were

1996
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 2: my daughter's age, you know, they've just got a certain

1997
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: level of comfortability with it all. And it was hilarious,

1998
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: like chill Son and asked these questions and then Colby

1999
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: did a chaill Son and on him where he answers,

2000
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 2: not the question he was asked, just whatever he wanted to,

2001
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: like make it a focus.

2002
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 1: On you know, Chie could appreciate that he better.

2003
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 2: He's the one who did it, you know in MMA. Anyway,

2004
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: all right, that's our five. What a great weekend. With

2005
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: that in mind, let's go to our segment. Where you

2006
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: get to ask us questions. It's time for dms from dogs. Yeah,

2007
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: that's the first thing you hear before the police come

2008
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: out and say this is a prostitution bust, all right?

2009
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: Topic number one from Perk three thousands, three thousand.

2010
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

2011
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: I understand the fans calling for Iszzy to retire, not

2012
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: wanting to see him lose another fight, But other than that,

2013
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: why should he He gets paid a couple million every fight.

2014
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 2: He does not get paid a couple million every fight,

2015
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: let me fucking assure you. And this is the thing

2016
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 2: he loves to do most in this world. It's not

2017
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: like he's getting destroyed as he is, like Tony Ferguson

2018
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: was on his way out. If he wants to keep

2019
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: going and this isn't taking serious damage, why not. Every

2020
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 2: part of the premise of this question is wrong. He

2021
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 2: doesn't make two million a fight and he is getting destroyed.

2022
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tough thing.

2023
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, we covered this pretty addnuging, but like it's

2024
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 3: just it's a tough thing, right. I don't know why.

2025
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: I guess I just don't like the open endedness of

2026
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 3: what he's doing.

2027
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't really love that.

2028
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 3: You guys, got to kick me out, Like I there's

2029
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 3: something about his comportment and his makeup that I feel

2030
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 3: like I should know better than that. Maybe he's just

2031
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: saying it, but I'm like, I don't like that kind

2032
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 3: of mentality. When a guy doesn't seem to be meeting

2033
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 3: the standard of who's standing in front of him.

2034
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it's amazing that people would think

2035
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 2: in a non title main event, he's making two million dollars,

2036
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: No fucking chance that's true. That's probably three or four

2037
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: times what he's actually getting.

2038
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: That's an insane thing, I think. Yeah.

2039
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: But the the other part too, is like, Okay, is

2040
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: he getting abused like Tony Ferguson was getting abused against

2041
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: Justin Gachee. No, he's not getting that, but that's what's next.

2042
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: You keep going, and that's what's going to happen.

2043
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: You can't get out of the way the punches, man.

2044
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other part two is like, dude, like

2045
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 2: getting battered like he did, Like maybe his nose got broken.

2046
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm saying just the punch is

2047
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: like he took generally, Dude, these these are gonna fuck

2048
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 2: your life up if you take enough of them, like

2049
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: looking at this and thinking, oh, this is the thing

2050
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: you can just he's treating it like the question was like,

2051
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's like playing pickleball, Like you know, he's

2052
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: everything's fine. We're just you know, hitting the ball out

2053
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,440
Speaker 2: in the old pickleball court. Dude, this is not fucking pickleball,

2054
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: tru man.

2055
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: He used to have a little bit more of It's

2056
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 3: just like a spring springy evasiveness, so he could just

2057
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 3: kind of get out of the way. And once that goes,

2058
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: it just changes everything, you know. And so like there

2059
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 3: was one, I know, there was one big punch. I

2060
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 3: think it was a right hand that Piper landed. That

2061
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 3: was pretty telegraphed, and I mean it was just it

2062
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 3: was just standing there and then just telegraphed and and

2063
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 3: it connects full of connects, and you're like, that's just

2064
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 3: not a punch he would have gotten.

2065
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: Hit with earlier in his career.

2066
01:30:54,600 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 2: All right, Question number two from pursue uh or no

2067
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 2: excuse me, per uh, per use dreams uh or whatever

2068
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 2: the per us dreams, whatever the fuck?

2069
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: Who cares? What are your.

2070
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Thoughts on the AI slow. I'm so glad someone asked

2071
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,799
Speaker 2: about this. What are your thoughts on the AI slop

2072
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 2: argument from Dana or lack thereof Just shut the fuck

2073
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: up and watch the fights our Dana's thoughts. By the way,

2074
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Let's let me set this up for the audience, Chuck,

2075
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: if they didn't see it. Someone in the postfight press

2076
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 2: conference asked Dana White about, Hey, some of the fans

2077
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 2: are upset that you guys are using AI to generate

2078
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 2: you know, some of these graphics or images that you're

2079
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: using for you know, both the television broadcast but beyond

2080
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: that as well. And Dana first of all didn't understand

2081
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: the question, like what's the problem, And then someone had

2082
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: to explain to hims like they're using AI, and his

2083
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: response was, here's my response, shut the fuck up to

2084
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,879
Speaker 2: the fans and watch the fights.

2085
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: What do you think, Chuck, Well, you did have a

2086
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 3: good night of fights, so you understand. Like he's like, Hey,

2087
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: why are we talking about this. We just said that

2088
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,519
Speaker 3: we finally have the best night of twenty twenty six

2089
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 3: with on paramount plus.

2090
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same made it worse. Here we are talking

2091
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 1: about made it worse.

2092
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like that Unfortunately, anything that feels cheap or

2093
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 3: lazy is going to glare at you, and especially in

2094
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 3: a new era like where you think they're going to

2095
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 3: go the extra mile to do these things. I noticed

2096
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 3: it right away, did you. Like when you're watching it,

2097
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 3: you're like, wait, what is this? I mean, it's just

2098
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 3: like anything like you go see a you seem like

2099
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 3: a man of taste, So like you would probably rather

2100
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 3: watch a think piece of a movie at the limity

2101
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: theater rather than like some you know, explosion CGI type movie.

2102
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 3: You might you would choose that, And I feel like

2103
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 3: that's kind of the cheapening effect of something like that.

2104
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 3: Come on, man, have something you have, like you have

2105
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 3: the monopoly on the sport, like it puts some effort

2106
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 3: into it. I'm maybe I'm nitpicking, but that's why it

2107
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 3: feels to.

2108
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 2: Me, like, dude, just think about something for a second. Like,

2109
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 2: you know, Dana White makes probably a lot of money.

2110
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 2: Does he make as much money as like the McDonald's

2111
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 2: CEO or something like that, right, Like, yeah, maybe it's

2112
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 2: maybe it's on par maybe it's even a little bit more,

2113
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: but you know, like the McDonald's CEO is a pretty

2114
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: well compensated position, right, tens of millions probably a per annual. Yeah,

2115
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: could you imagine the McDonald's CEO responding to someone saying

2116
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: something about how his product is a little lazy, and

2117
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: him responding, shut the fuck up and eat the fries.

2118
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: Can you imagine something like that?

2119
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 2: The reason why you can't imagine it, even though that's

2120
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 2: a huge company and they have a big market share

2121
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: and the owner, I should say that the owner, but

2122
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 2: the president of the McDonald's or the CEO makes a

2123
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 2: lot of money, is that it would be automatically ruinous

2124
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 2: for any brand that still has to answer to their customers.

2125
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 2: This is the kind of thing that not even a

2126
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 2: fucking power company, an electric fucking company says to you

2127
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: about your fucking bill, even and they don't do it.

2128
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 2: I want everyone to understand, Yeah, this is the problem

2129
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 2: with the UFC, and it's been the people like, oh,

2130
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 2: it's the Paramount Era, it's Hunter Campbell. It's monopoly everyone.

2131
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 2: It is fucking time to stop blaming Paramount or Hunter

2132
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Campbell or whoever the fuck it is monopoly.

2133
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 1: They don't, they know it. They know they.

2134
01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Don't owe you shit, and they there's nothing short of

2135
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 2: just leaving the shit completely alone that you can do

2136
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:39,919
Speaker 2: about it. And they fucking know it. That's the fucking problem.

2137
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: Well said man, It's true. It drives me fucking crazy.

2138
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is even us talking about it

2139
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 3: and pointing this out, like you know, there's a there

2140
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 3: is such a knee jerk fan reaction from certain fans

2141
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 3: who are who are being talked to that way, that

2142
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 3: will be like dude Dane's worries that because you know,

2143
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 3: they're just gonna defend it anyway it does. That's the

2144
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,760
Speaker 3: craziest thing. There's certain dogs beneath the hail who liked

2145
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 3: the abuse.

2146
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Oh, dude Dana told us to go fuck ourselves.

2147
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, he's so cool for that. You know. It's like, dude,

2148
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: you ate paint as a kid.

2149
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 2: I can just tell bro, you don't have any sense

2150
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 2: of self whatsoever. And then the other part two here

2151
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 2: chuck last thing on this and we'll move on. But

2152
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 2: the other part two is it's like part of listen.

2153
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 2: I use AI at times as a way because I

2154
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: just don't happen twenty four hours in a day to

2155
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 2: be able to do all of the things I want

2156
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 2: with the kind of manicured process, with all the things

2157
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: I've got going on, I just don't have the ability

2158
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 2: to do that, but I try to.

2159
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: I gave up my chat GPT account.

2160
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 2: I only use Anthropic, you know, So I try, and

2161
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 2: there's no responsible to choice, but I feel like that's

2162
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 2: a better one than open AI. And I try to

2163
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 2: be very very limiting in the ways in which I

2164
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 2: use it, either for research or to help up with

2165
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: thumbnails on my political channel, because I just don't have

2166
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 2: time to sit there and make them, and so there

2167
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: can be use cases for it, and I try to

2168
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: lean into those, and I try to be my full

2169
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: of it for any number of reasons. But like the

2170
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,520
Speaker 2: UFC just signed a seven point seven.

2171
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Billion dollar deal.

2172
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: They could easily afford the kinds of teams that they

2173
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 2: need to be able to make stuff that looks really

2174
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 2: great on camera. They're just doing it cheaply. And it's

2175
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: like this is emblematic of everything. You're giving us a

2176
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: worse product because you're cost cutting and.

2177
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: We're all poorer for it.

2178
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 2: For then Dana to be like, go fuck yourselves, it's

2179
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 2: like it's like, dude, they don't customers understand. They don't

2180
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: give a fuck about your opinion because they know you

2181
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: can't do shit about it. That's the truth. A man, right,

2182
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 2: it's true, all right. Topic question number three, you don't know,

2183
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Tyler says, is it time for UFC to change out

2184
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: commentary teams more frequently?

2185
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: Do we need to rotate shock? What do you think?

2186
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they already rotate obviously. Do you ever go back?

2187
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 3: Like I you know, you go on the fight pass,

2188
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 3: which I love because you can go watch old fights

2189
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 3: and just get a sense of whatever happened and or

2190
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:10,759
Speaker 3: just revisit.

2191
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: But like you get Mike Goldberg and he's just like,

2192
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 1: that's it's.

2193
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 3: Hard to be a rock star, right, well, you know,

2194
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 3: or something like that, right when Ronda Rousey's getting knocked

2195
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 3: out and you're like, oh my god, every's panicking and

2196
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 3: he's like throwing out.

2197
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: It has gotten so much better from those days.

2198
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: We don't realize it because you just kind of watch

2199
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 3: it in a linear way and you just keep going.

2200
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 3: But it's so much better than the old days. Yet

2201
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: I understand the question. I understand the concern because there

2202
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 3: are times where the booth gets almost a little too giddy,

2203
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 3: where they just go off on these little side johnts,

2204
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: and that can be fun, but when it becomes too fun,

2205
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 3: like where it becomes a little too loosey goosey. There's

2206
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 3: times that that bothers me. I don't know why.

2207
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 1: Like it's usually a Cormier booth, you know, where he's

2208
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: just laughing and having a good time and talking about

2209
01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: something a little bit. That's cool.

2210
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,160
Speaker 3: But there's there's all also, I don't know there's a

2211
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 3: great jew at all. Like there's just times where I'm like,

2212
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 3: come on, guys, stay on point here a little bit,

2213
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: you know.

2214
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 2: I think that we got like you got to be

2215
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 2: kind of precise about the criticism. First of all, I

2216
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 2: feel like the play by play side that UFC has

2217
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 2: is super strong. Yes, so that'd be John Annick, Brendan Fitzgerald,

2218
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 2: John Gooden, and even Dan Helly.

2219
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 3: I'd throw in there as well. Yeah, yeah, they're all good.

2220
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: And John Anna keeps everything on point. Like the thing

2221
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, he'll reel it in. He'll he'll know

2222
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 3: when it's going too far like the I don't.

2223
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 2: I just don't have any meaningful criticism about that side

2224
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 2: of the Ledger at all. To me, the real problems

2225
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: are on the color side. I think Paul Felder's good.

2226
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 2: I think Laura Senko is good. I recognize that there

2227
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 2: are limits because you know, DC can get a little

2228
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 2: bit giggly with Rogan. That's not a great combo. But

2229
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 2: in general, especially when he's really leaning into the wrestling,

2230
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 2: when DC is focused and talking about technique, I love

2231
01:38:59,160 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: his commentary.

2232
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Cruise, he's just I feel like he's

2233
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: really up on what's happening. Like I'm not trying to.

2234
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 3: I know, it's a big workload. Man, They're running shows

2235
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 3: every week and there's seven hour shows. It's a lot

2236
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:11,640
Speaker 3: of fights, it's a lot of knowledge you have to

2237
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 3: carry around from week to week. Sure, so you have

2238
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 3: to give him some grace on this, but I do

2239
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, you know, I don't know, maybe the

2240
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 3: like the research part of it could be stronger, and

2241
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, not just with DC.

2242
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying like in general, Uh, there's there's some of that,

2243
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: and there's some other ones in there.

2244
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not going to go through all

2245
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: of them, but you know, I like most of what

2246
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 2: I I just feel like they haven't they kiss coming

2247
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 2: up and I think they're still trying to get him. Yeah,

2248
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 2: you know, some reps, I feel like they need to

2249
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: be a little bit more aggressive with trying out some

2250
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,440
Speaker 2: other names, but they'd like to keep their guys.

2251
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 1: So I agree with you, Dominic Cruz, Paul Felder.

2252
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 3: Those types of guys really do a great job if

2253
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 3: you were just like kind of towing that line between

2254
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 3: the aficionado who's watched a lot of fights and the

2255
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 3: person who hasn't watched a lot of fights, kind of

2256
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 3: given you the basis of what you're looking at, you know,

2257
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 3: and it's especially certain setups, and you know where why

2258
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 3: it's why it's effective. But whatever it is, they do

2259
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 3: a very good job of toying that line, and that

2260
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 3: that to me, is very good commentary.

2261
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: It's good to the next question, This is from v

2262
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Sanchez Underscore eighty eight Well Long Island. Luke ever do

2263
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: a fan edition? Oh, prop quiz Long Island.

2264
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 1: I'm not against this, not against this whatsoever.

2265
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 5: The problem being is that obviously I cater every topic

2266
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 5: to the guests, and like if a random fan is

2267
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 5: doing it, I obviously know nothing about this fan. So

2268
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 5: maybe if I come up with just some generic topics,

2269
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,759
Speaker 5: I'd be into it. But I definitely need to broaden

2270
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 5: the contestants. We need to bring more people in. So

2271
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 5: anyone seeing this hit me on.

2272
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 3: He's like, I'll take any fan as long as they're

2273
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 3: celebrity and they're gonna bring a lot of traffic to myself, as.

2274
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: Long as Brian and your wife. Yeah, all right, last,

2275
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: but not least, that's the best one I know. Question

2276
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:00,080
Speaker 1: for five, do you do.

2277
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: You have any April any funny April Fool stories? No,

2278
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm not a fucking idiot.

2279
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: No. I mean, do you remember, though, who was it?

2280
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 1: The dude?

2281
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 3: Like, there was fighters. There were a couple of fighters,

2282
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 3: and they were bad. They were in really bad taste.

2283
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 3: They when Twitter became a thing and they would he's

2284
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 3: out say yeah, or they they'd be like, my fight

2285
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 3: is canceled or whatever, and you'll be like, it's news outlets,

2286
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 3: whitn't you know?

2287
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: They would almost be trying to run with this, and

2288
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: then they'd be like, no, it's all a joke. You know.

2289
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 2: There's been some bad ones. April fool, I'm not fools

2290
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 2: is for dullards, just straight up. You can you can

2291
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 2: quote me on that for dullards or kids, But I

2292
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 2: mean the adults who play it out.

2293
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, heay listen. If you're my daughter's

2294
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: age and you want to do April Fools.

2295
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 2: Cool exactly, I'll play along, but for anybody else go

2296
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 2: fuck yourself.

2297
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah here, I want to turn to Dana White.

2298
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up and watch m k okay, who

2299
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 2: the fuck do you think you are?

2300
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: Brother, You're gonna you're gonna have to long Only.

2301
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to get the snippet of the the

2302
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 3: uh of the you know whatever we're just talking about

2303
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 3: where he's going on about the AI.

2304
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: You need that one in the in the repertoire here, Yeah, exactly,

2305
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 1: I'll add it. But for now, I got this. This

2306
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: weekend I'll be doing the crack do.

2307
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 2: Long Island's gonna get you with that sound machine. Don't

2308
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 2: think he won't, Oh baby, all right, With that in mind,

2309
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 2: remember we're still running a contest, so keep sending him

2310
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com. But it's time now

2311
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 2: for some fan subs.

2312
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Let's do it. You've got mail futures, all right.

2313
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 2: This is from first one. It's from Quinn. It's a

2314
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 2: meme and she's are he or she says? What the

2315
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 2: fuck are those hats?

2316
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

2317
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 2: Chuck Mintenhall Whenever Long Island Luke puts him on full

2318
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: screen with that wide angle shot. Yeah, because you go

2319
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 2: see all the hats in the background. Yeah, I got

2320
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: to pile them over there.

2321
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: You know.

2322
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 3: That's how I end up with Detroit. So I could

2323
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: just grab something put it on. I wish I had

2324
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 3: that many hats.

2325
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 1: I have like three hats.

2326
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't think i've ever seen you

2327
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 3: where at only when you're going into public and you're

2328
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 3: trying to avoid like fans.

2329
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen you do that.

2330
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 2: I definitely put a hat on in a hood up

2331
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 2: and then like just walk around like this, middle fingers.

2332
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Just don't fucking talk to me.

2333
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm teazing, all right, topic number I'm not talking,

2334
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 2: but number two here on this says good day gents.

2335
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 2: Is from Jeff making a meme competition has stirred my

2336
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 2: creative juices. All right, we've got five memes and a

2337
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 2: video as well. Here we go UFC champions reading legal

2338
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 2: documents defining what their championship belts actually mean.

2339
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:39,879
Speaker 1: All right, off.

2340
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 2: BC as an orangutang and then the strawweight.

2341
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: He's going to interview how it appears to them at

2342
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: least I don't know if you can ride a tricycle.

2343
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 2: Here's Mark Zuckerberg. Hi, I'm your neighbor that booed you

2344
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 2: at a UFC event. If you need anything, I'll do

2345
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 2: my best to make it worse. Come by the Data

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01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,200
Speaker 2: Center anytime.

2347
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I do hate Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, look at that, all right.

2348
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 2: Your choice is become a lawyer or cover the most

2349
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 2: racist and sexist sport ever.

2350
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 1: And then there's Jed who's sweating it out. That's pretty good.

2351
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 2: It's the this is this is MMA is the official

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01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 2: sport of fascism. It is just I mean, in funnsane,

2353
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: how full of awful people?

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01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: It is? All right?

2355
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 2: Next, uh, here's the urinal And then coming up, did

2356
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 2: you hear Kid Rock is performing at UFC Freedom to fifty.

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01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Do you think they're gonna have Kid Rock at the

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01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: White House? I think i'd sprits on that guy if

2359
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: that happened, like if somebody came up to me empty years.

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01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 3: I don't know, but it does feel that fits kind

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01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 3: of the the motif they've been going with. Every time

2362
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 3: you see trumpet event, isn't Kid Rock right on his side?

2363
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: Like they come out together. The oil is gonna.

2364
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: Be at like two hundred and fifty dollars a barrel

2365
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 2: and there's gonna.

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01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: Be dying Digger Digger.

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01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 2: And people are gonna be like, yeah, we want you

2368
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 2: to take mma. Seriously, that's not no, what's the video?

2369
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: Fire the person that does that. But now you have

2370
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: been promoted.

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01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 3: You are now one of my elague employees.

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: Uh, you missed some trash over there, honey.

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01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 2: It's not bad, not too dissimilar from Halliwent. All right,

2374
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 2: this is from Kelsey.

2375
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Is this a girl? Is this a girl? Apparently? All right?

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01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: Longtime fan of the show, Kelsey Wrights listening for a

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01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 2: few years now, So yes, you do have female listeners

2378
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: slash donks.

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01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: She might be the only one. This is the meme

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01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I came up with.

2381
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 2: I think the Netflix card is better than the White

2382
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: House card and agree with the sentiment that it should

2383
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 2: have been better star power matchups, But Long Island's hate

2384
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 2: for it is high for how much he loves Fight

2385
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Night prelims.

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01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: It's a good point, fingers crossed.

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01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: The cards get better matchups that are more relevant to

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01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 2: the rankings. Keep up the great work. What's wrong with

2389
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 2: this meme? This is a great meme.

2390
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's wrong with this meme is I've actually defend

2391
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 5: did the White House card.

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01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm anti it. Oh, so she should have put the

2393
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: m v P card. There you go.

2394
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 4: But her point was that she's holding the m v

2395
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 4: P card higher than the White House card.

2396
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 3: You know what your problem is with the m v

2397
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 3: P card. It's just that there are too many prohibitive

2398
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 3: favorites on it.

2399
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 5: And you're like, nah, yeah, it's not a good betting card.

2400
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 5: That's how it is, you know what it is. People

2401
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 5: gave me a lot of ship for those comments, by

2402
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,839
Speaker 5: the way, and they're like, bro, you stream, you stream

2403
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 5: apex prelims, and I'm like, I never said I'm not

2404
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 5: going to stream the m v P card.

2405
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 1: I said I'm not going to go to it.

2406
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 4: I said I wouldn't go to it if it was

2407
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 4: the local thing in town, just like I wouldn't go

2408
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 4: to a shitty APEX card if it was the local

2409
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 4: thing in town.

2410
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: What if they were giving out free banana head liqueur

2411
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, cowlderhead.

2412
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know.

2413
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 3: I don't think they're still involved with that, are they.

2414
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that around much anymore.

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01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 5: They are involved with bud Light though, and anyone who knows.

2416
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:54,919
Speaker 5: But that's how you got me to a place.

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01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: Is that your beer of choice bud Light?

2418
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Sadly, yes, I'm not a beer snob at all, Like

2419
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to drink great beer, but

2420
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 2: bud Light is also just bad, you know what I mean.

2421
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm dumb tea and I really want to vape. That's fair,

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01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 1: all right?

2423
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 2: From Donagan Donagan Anderson Day one. DONK still sad over

2424
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 2: Brian's leaving, but I'm excited about the new full time

2425
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:24,160
Speaker 2: Friday host, the famous and talented glup Shitdow. And just

2426
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 2: like Brian, he is a huge fan of women's one

2427
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen pound of age.

2428
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 1: So do you know who? Glup Shadow is? A Shock

2429
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Words character? I know, not really.

2430
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 2: Sort of so yes and no, so he's not a

2431
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 2: real Star Wars character. Okay, someone had to explain this

2432
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 2: to me a while ago, but I learned it my understanding,

2433
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 2: and if I'm getting this wrong, some nerd can correct me.

2434
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 2: My understanding is that like the Star Wars fan base

2435
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: is so accommodating of like new characters that they don't

2436
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 2: ever quite like like, oh, we like jar Jar Binks,

2437
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 2: we like like all the awful ones.

2438
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like they could roll out one called

2439
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: glup shitdow. You don't know anything about it.

2440
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 3: You'd be like, yeah, he fucking rules, you know, glup

2441
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 3: shidow the banana slug, you know, the.

2442
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: Banana slug that no one gives a fuck about.

2443
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 3: You know, did you I don't know if you ever

2444
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 3: gave me like a do you have an opinion of

2445
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 3: like the Star Wars charge of being said episode?

2446
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Though all of those like did you like those?

2447
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: Or George Lucas and that whole crew should be sent

2448
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: to the Hague?

2449
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Dicks everywhere? Dicks dude.

2450
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 2: These people who grew up with the Phantom Menace when

2451
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,639
Speaker 2: they were kids arguing with me that it's actually great

2452
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: cinema is one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen.

2453
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 2: I genuinely am like, I like, if I see that,

2454
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 2: and then I also see that you got charged with

2455
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: like some sex crime.

2456
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna think poorly.

2457
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: Of you in either way, but like you'd be surprised

2458
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: how competitive. Not thinking Phantom Menace is bad is on

2459
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 2: par with me looking at your sex crimes on your

2460
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 2: rap sheet. I'm like, these are not These are both

2461
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 2: really fucking bad.

2462
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, what are you doing with your life? Exactly?

2463
01:48:58,840 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 1: Embarrassing that people.

2464
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,599
Speaker 2: All Right, from Matt we got a meme here, he says,

2465
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm coming for that signed.

2466
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: Poster Brian Campbell. Holy smokes. I'm so glad I was

2467
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 1: there for that event in Vegas when you guys were Yeah,

2468
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember you being there.

2469
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 3: I tell you, I showed up on stage. I showed

2470
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 3: up on stage for a little while.

2471
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 2: I know I do remember that on teasing, but like Jesus,

2472
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna.

2473
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Live that down.

2474
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 2: All Right, last min alleys, we have one from John

2475
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 2: McClain says Long Island Luke's brain ten beers and bong

2476
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 2: hits into the main car.

2477
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: Oh god, this is accurate. That was me in that moment.

2478
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: I was.

2479
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,600
Speaker 5: I was, you know, I lost my Nacy Barber moneyline

2480
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 5: bet and that was me.

2481
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:39,639
Speaker 1: It's like so funny.

2482
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 2: It's like I missed the Mussaiah bab Munda's fight live

2483
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:43,760
Speaker 2: and then I went back and watching him, like, oh wow,

2484
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 2: this is so fucked up. And then I talked to

2485
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 2: the Long Alley He's like, I didn't even notice.

2486
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 4: I made a fans up while we were live, Luke,

2487
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 4: because I noticed you were wearing the UFC Seattle flannel.

2488
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: So who wore it better? Guys? Kyle Nelson? Wait, is

2489
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: that legit? Dude?

2490
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 5: They were giving these out there? It looks exactly like

2491
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,719
Speaker 5: what sharing. Yeah, so every fighter was in macy Ward

2492
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 5: for media day. You know everyone had.

2493
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, bro, this is the only car heart thing

2494
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: that I think I own.

2495
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 3: So this wasn't deliberately a homage to like the fight.

2496
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Oh no, I just wore like a fucking idiot incidence.

2497
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Chuck, why don't you tell the good

2498
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: folks what you have that they can read or they

2499
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 2: can watch.

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01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 1: This weekend, I'll be doing the crack. Yea, yeah, I'll

2501
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: be doing the crack. I'll be besides Spendel I h

2502
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:29,719
Speaker 1: this week.

2503
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 3: Are doing the crack on Wednesday, so you can cut

2504
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 3: that off Long Island, Luke.

2505
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2506
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure why, but it's a Wednesday show

2507
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 3: this week, and I'll have a couple I have like

2508
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 3: some columns coming up, and I'll have a feature probably

2509
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 3: rolling out on Monday in bols Cup of Swansen.

2510
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Very good, long, Luke, what you got cooking?

2511
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 5: I have a bet breakdown for this really terrible UFC

2512
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 5: Vegas one fifteen event.

2513
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: We got this. Have you looked at this card? It

2514
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 1: is awful. Shout out to the main event. It's a

2515
01:50:57,320 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 1: fun main event. But what's the main Chris Donk?

2516
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 5: Al Right, it should be a bloodbath, you know, but

2517
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 5: I'll bet breakdown for that.

2518
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 4: New tourny for Pop Quiz starts on Friday. Hopefully, you know,

2519
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 4: I can get an episode before that.

2520
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, so tune out for that, and you know,

2521
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,799
Speaker 5: watch along for this apex slop on Saturday.

2522
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: Hell yea, I will not be watching the Apex Slop

2523
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 2: this Saturday, you can. I'm gonna be spending time with

2524
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 2: my family. Let's see what do we have going on

2525
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 2: for me? You can just go to my YouTube channels

2526
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 2: and all that good stuff there.

2527
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 1: Go check that out.

2528
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 2: Of course we're always on social Chuck is as well. Yeah,

2529
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: we can find everything on ig and Twitter for him.

2530
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 2: Reminder Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Keep the memes coming.

2531
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna announce the winner for the last month this

2532
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 2: coming Friday, so be on the lookout. We'll get that done.

2533
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 2: To keep sending them in. We love them, we appreciate them.

2534
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 2: They make the show better. So thank you to everyone

2535
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 2: who contributes them. Even if we like them where we don't.

2536
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 2: We appreciate all of them that come in, so thank

2537
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 2: you very much, shut the fuck up and keep sending

2538
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: them anything else. Oh, yes, Morningcombat Dot Shop. Today and tomorrow,

2539
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: these are the last two days to get forty percent

2540
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,679
Speaker 2: off on all the T shirts, all all the designs

2541
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 2: you see, forty percent off just today and just tomorrow, and.

2542
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 1: Then that is it.

2543
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 2: All right for Long Island Luke for Chuck Mindenhall, I

2544
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 2: am LT. We'll see you guys on Friday. Appreciate you

2545
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 2: guys watching until next time. May all of your gains

2546
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 2: be loyal