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Speaker 1: We are live on Thanksgiving. Yes, and I always have

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Speaker 3: Let me welcome in my co host for the night.

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Speaker 3: He is Marvin Martin. White, Martin wh who Martin? Never

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Speaker 6: What's happening to my man? Happy Thanksgiving? Happy Thanksgiving? Much

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Speaker 3: We are at work. Yes, people work on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Alex again, a million thanks. Alex is our engineer.

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Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely, Alex and I this is eight years strong.

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Speaker 1: Start with obviously, the first game of the year, the

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Speaker 6: I don't think this window is closed, but I do

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Speaker 6: I think the fallout from today's game and that fourth

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Speaker 6: You know, prior to Matt Lafleur had only I know

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Speaker 6: The Lions letting this one go obviously impacts their playoffs,

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Speaker 6: But if the Lions wins, though is closed, then you

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Speaker 1: The only thing I'm gonna say it's different is that

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Speaker 6: No, to me, the Lions have taken a step I

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Speaker 6: So I'm not saying that I think that now you

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Speaker 3: Things for this season. But when I look at the Lions, I.

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Speaker 6: Look at the structure that they have, especially on the

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Speaker 1: They're gonna like call her with Dan Campbell, Dan Gamble,

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Speaker 6: I like him better than like John Morton last year.

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Speaker 6: And I think this when it comes to Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Yes, in the first half of this year.

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Speaker 6: Dan Campbell to me is the scheme and like Wed

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Speaker 6: Blump cut coaches into two different groups, tough guys and

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Speaker 6: and then I think the whole team will get better.

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Speaker 6: I think they missed on offensive coord end of this year,

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Speaker 1: Well they have gone outside of the room, sure, instead

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott just threw a touchdown pass and completed a

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, all right, there you go? All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's start with John in Indiana. You're in the odd

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Speaker 3: What's up, John? Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 4: Happy Thanksgiving to you guys. Dan Campbell is Detroit Sellingworth's enemy.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, tell me why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are fans who have who love Dan

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Speaker 4: That's exactly why I think he is because you're passing

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Speaker 9: I haven't called for a while. I love you, I

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Speaker 9: love your program.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 9: I'm happy Thanksgiving to the troops in all America, but

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Speaker 9: the Detroit.

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Speaker 10: A couple of things.

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Speaker 9: Number One, Dan the coach, you gotta take the field

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Speaker 9: goals in playoffs. She got this guy before you was

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Speaker 9: totally right. When you're in the playoffs, you gotta take

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Speaker 9: every point. You gotta fight for those in life's the

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Speaker 9: game of football, and so you know you gotta flight.

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Speaker 4: For the interest.

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Speaker 9: Number two, Another thing about Detroit, you guys haven't talked about.

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Speaker 4: Had so many.

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Speaker 9: Injuries this year and full player you gotta be lucky.

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Speaker 9: It's the same thing with the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: But Martin beating up.

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Speaker 9: He got sack seven times, sacks five times, and he's

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Speaker 9: still recovery from this.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 1: But that's why when you have when your windows open

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Speaker 1: and you have those opportunities, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: that's why you don't want because because it's not the

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Speaker 1: same you lose coordinators, players get hurt, players.

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Speaker 3: Aren't you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And you look up the last time the Lions went

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Speaker 1: to the NFC championship game.

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Speaker 3: It took them thirty years to get back. Like that's

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Speaker 3: it could happen.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you're right, And I was watching that game a

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Speaker 9: couple of years ago and I said, take the damn fidergals.

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Speaker 9: Look with record, the season and postseasons different things. And

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Speaker 9: in the postseason, you're gonna take every point you can get.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: All Right, appreciate the call. Happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for supporting

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Speaker 1: us during the holiday. All right, let's get you caught up.

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Speaker 1: Martin Weiss has that, let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes and just through an incomplete pass that she

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Speaker 6: Rice went right through his hands on a third down.

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Speaker 6: Waiting to see what the Chiefs do here. They trail

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Speaker 6: by seven to the Dallas Cowboys. Is twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 6: one nine thirty five left Chiefs lining up to punt here.

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott twenty two for thirty three, two touchdowns, one interception.

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Speaker 6: The interception came in the first quarter. Mahomes is twenty

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Speaker 6: for twenty nine, three touchdowns, but again, one of those

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Speaker 6: twenty nine incompletions are twenty I'm sorry, nine incompletions over

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Speaker 6: she Rice drop that would have been a first down.

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Speaker 3: Earlier today was other Packers.

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Speaker 6: Beat the Lions thirty one to twenty four, and according

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Speaker 6: to Rod Parker, the fall of the Dan Campbell dynasty

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Speaker 6: in Detroit threeen Bay aggressive and going forward on fourth

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Speaker 6: down three times, getting two touchdowns and a game a

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Speaker 6: ceiling catch from it.

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Speaker 3: So not taking the points worked out for the Packers.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna Saint Brown suffered an ankle injury not to

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Speaker 6: be significant. He'll will likely miss one to two weeks.

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Speaker 6: Per Dan Campbell. Michael Parsons is the first player in

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Speaker 6: the NFL history that have twelve sacks twelve plus act

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Speaker 6: in each of his first five NFL seasons. Elsewhere in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, coach quarterback Daniel Jones suffered a fractured in

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Speaker 6: his tribula. Full participate in practice today, will attempt to

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Speaker 6: play through it for week thirteen. Steelers respect Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 6: to return for Week thirteen on that fractured risk. Full

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Speaker 6: participant in practice. Vicker Mayfield is still up in the air.

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Speaker 6: Jackson Dart has clearer coach protocol. He's in the line

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Speaker 6: to start Mother the Night Football against the Patriots. Bear

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Speaker 6: attactivate Kyler Gordon and Jalen Johnson from injury reserve, getting

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Speaker 6: some defensive backs back in the lineup. Devonte Smith the

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Speaker 6: Saymon Barkley good to go for the Eagles offense after

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Speaker 6: fully participating in practice. They have played tomorrow against the Bears.

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Speaker 6: Eli Drinkowitz and Missouri have agreed to a six year

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Speaker 6: contracts Now, he's not making an average of ten and

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Speaker 6: a half or sorry, ten and a quarter, ten and

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Speaker 6: three quarters. Here we go, million dollars and getting more

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Speaker 6: of the nil money to stay the head coach at

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Speaker 6: the University of Missouri through twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, I here is the Odd Couple, Rob

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Speaker 1: Parker Martin Weiss in for Kelvin Washington on this Thanksgiving evening.

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Speaker 3: There you go. I love it, Parker Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 1: And now let's welcome in our guest, Keith McPherson, of course,

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Speaker 1: our New York sports talk radio host. You know he

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Speaker 1: worked at the Fan and he does all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 1: You see him on social media. Let's welcome into the

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Speaker 1: Odd Couple. Keith, what's happening? Say hi to Martin Wis's

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 5: Yo, yo, Marin? Was that you doing the turkey sound?

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Speaker 5: Do not do that sound?

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Speaker 3: That was definitely that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not good at doing the turkey impersonations,

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Speaker 1: but it's all good.

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Speaker 3: No sounds.

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Speaker 5: We eat the turkey. The Turkey day is about to

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Speaker 5: be done, man, Thanks for having me. Happy Thanksgiving. I'm

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Speaker 5: ready for Christmas to start.

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Speaker 3: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, there's a lot of stuff going on

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Speaker 1: in New York, so we definitely want to get Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's start with Aaron Glenn and the Jets disastrous first

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Speaker 1: year kind of put you know, a lot of stock

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Speaker 1: into the quarterback and you know and cutting people early on.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of been a disaster. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: they're going to keep him around. Should Does he deserve

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Speaker 1: a second season? Is it just a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: that has to happen where you want Aaron Glenn?

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, he's gonna get more than a second season. Whatdy?

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Speaker 5: Johnson came out and told the media that he gives

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Speaker 5: him a hug every day and tells him keep the faith.

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Speaker 5: So if the owner is giving you a hugs and

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Speaker 5: the owner is telling you keep the faith, like, who

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Speaker 5: else you need to talk to? Who do you who

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Speaker 5: else he need ashorance from? And I mean it's the Jets.

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Speaker 5: What do you expect? Like we weren't really expecting him

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Speaker 5: to come in here and lead them to the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: But I think his bravado, I think him being such

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Speaker 5: a tough guy, you know, going at the media like

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Speaker 5: all that is blown up in his face, right, you know,

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Speaker 5: he didn't want to tell us who the quarterback was.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you don't really even have a quarterback between

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Speaker 5: Justin Field and Tyrod Taylor. But I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 5: the two wins that they got over the state of

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Speaker 5: Ohio beating Cleveland and be in Cincinnati. That's enough. And

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Speaker 5: then Darren Mougi who came in with him, they're trade deadline,

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Speaker 5: they're good. It's all gonna line up for them to

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Speaker 5: draft Fernando Mendoza or Dante More or Tye Simpson or

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Speaker 5: one of them, and then once they get their quarterback,

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Speaker 5: then we'll be able to actually judge him.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, he was the one that

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Speaker 1: was high on Justin Fields. How surprised were you that

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Speaker 1: he was that high? I mean, he thought he's gonna rewrite.

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Speaker 1: He was gonna be the next Baker may.

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Speaker 5: For me exactly had me fooled. I thought he was

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Speaker 5: about to be the next Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield like

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Speaker 5: a third stop, and you know he figures it out.

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Speaker 5: And also because ag was the defensive coordinator with the

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Speaker 5: Lions in the division with the Bears, I'm like he

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Speaker 5: saw something on film. He saw something, and he knows

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Speaker 5: he could work with something. Tanner Ainstran, his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure that they had a plan for him. Nah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what they thought he was gonna be.

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Speaker 5: They gave him thirty million dollars guaranteed, and he regressed

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Speaker 5: like they can't run the regular offense, Like the offense

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Speaker 5: stalls too much with Justin Field. So I say that

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Speaker 5: to say this, better go get help evaluating these quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: coming out of the draft, because clearly they didn't know

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Speaker 5: what they were doing. They kicked Aaron Rodgers to the

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Speaker 5: curb and they signed Justin Fields. Now whoever decided that

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Speaker 5: cannot decide who they're picking with that topic in the draft.

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Speaker 5: They need to I don't know, we get Chad Pennington,

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Speaker 5: Vinnie Testa, Verge, Go get somebody like, go get somebody

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Speaker 5: that was with the Jets playing quarterback that could help

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Speaker 5: you out as far as identifying who the next guy

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Speaker 5: should be.

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Speaker 6: So is it just something in the water in New

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Speaker 6: York because I could have sworn going into the offseat.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, man, is Russell Wilson the third best quarterback

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Speaker 6: on the New York Giants? And I feel like, at

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Speaker 6: this point in the season, my suspicions have been confirmed

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Speaker 6: that Russell Wilson was in.

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Speaker 3: Fact the third best quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Jackson dark clears concussion protocol and looking like he'll play

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Speaker 6: Monday night. What's the state of the Giants in their

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Speaker 6: quarterback situation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tricky one, right because they move on

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Speaker 5: from Daniel Jones and they bring in Russ after they

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Speaker 5: signed Jameis, and we're like, okay, why do you need

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Speaker 5: both of them? Then you get hit in the draft,

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Speaker 5: you get Dart, you kick Tommy cutlet's to the curve.

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Speaker 5: It's like, Okay. Russ to me was always fake. I'm

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Speaker 5: not talking about his personality, but I just like, I

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Speaker 5: never thought it was gonna work. We saw him lose

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Speaker 5: out in Pittsburgh. What do he lose the last five

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Speaker 5: games straight? Like they wanted him out of there, and

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Speaker 5: I knew it wasn't gonna work here with the Giants

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Speaker 5: just the first couple of games. So James been balling.

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Speaker 5: Everybody is high on Jamis. Jamis catching touchdown, stiff arming guys,

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Speaker 5: doing the heidsmen and when he is on his cell,

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Speaker 5: he is ready. He's got his chances ready. But now

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Speaker 5: he's got to step aside again like he did in

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Speaker 5: the beginning of the year when they announced dart Is

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Speaker 5: the quarterback number two and we were like, wait, the

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Speaker 5: rookie is QB two not Jamis. Yeah, he's got to

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Speaker 5: step aside again and they're about to get back to

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Speaker 5: young Jackson Dart unless see if Dart has regrets. Let's

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Speaker 5: see if Dart with all his time off, not having

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Speaker 5: Brian Dable coming back from the concussion, is he gonna slide?

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Speaker 5: Is he gonna get out of bounds? Is he going

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Speaker 5: to be the same player now against his Patriots defense

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Speaker 5: on Monday Night? They got nothing to lose here. You know,

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Speaker 5: they're already cooked the most, losing his franchise last some

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Speaker 5: like seven or eight years in the NFL. So you know,

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Speaker 5: the fans just want to see this young guy go

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Speaker 5: back out in ball and see if he learned anything

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Speaker 5: about protecting himself.

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Speaker 1: All right, our guest is Keith McPherson, new York sports

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Speaker 1: talk radio host, joining us here on the Odd Couple

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Night. We appreciate you so much. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: baseball in New York in the off season. We know

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Speaker 1: that Yankees losing the postseason to the Blue Jays, who

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Speaker 1: got to the World Series.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have Garrett Cole.

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Speaker 1: They were tied with the Blue Jays and the al

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Speaker 1: least I know people make it like it was a

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Speaker 1: horrible year.

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Speaker 3: You lose your ace and.

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Speaker 1: You still tie for the record best record in the league.

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Speaker 1: But hal Steinbrenn a belly ache and the owner about

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, what do you make of that the Yankees

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Speaker 1: have money?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Like the idea that he's complaining that the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: spending money is comical to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is comical because now the Dodgers are the

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Speaker 5: new evil empire that we once knew the Yankees to be.

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Speaker 5: Right now, the Dodgers don't spare any expense. Back to

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Speaker 5: back years, they have the highest payroll and they go

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Speaker 5: win the World Series. They got all the superstars, they

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Speaker 5: got all the pedigree. And here's how Steinberner talking about,

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Speaker 5: we can't do what they do now. You can't because

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Speaker 5: you can't defer contracts to come play in the Bronx

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Speaker 5: to live in New York. Right, it's na Chavez Ravine.

666
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Speaker 5: It's not sunny California, and you're not playing with sho

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Speaker 5: Hey and Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. Is not Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 5: You got to pay these guys. And the Yankees they

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Speaker 5: always stopped short, right, they didn't want to pay Yamamoto

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Speaker 5: as much as the Dodgers wanted to pay them, like

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Speaker 5: they always stopped short. They didn't want to pay Juan

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Speaker 5: Soto what the Mets wanted to pay them. And here

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Speaker 5: we are now. You know, House speaks to the media.

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Speaker 5: And the only thing I was interested in getting from

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Speaker 5: how Steinberner was is there a salary cap on how

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Speaker 5: much you'll spend? Is it three hundred Is it three

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Speaker 5: hundred and eight? And he pretty much said no. But

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Speaker 5: then he cracked me up with the like, Hey, you

679
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Speaker 5: guys don't know how much our expenses are. You see

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Speaker 5: our profit in Forbes, you see our profit on Twitter

681
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Speaker 5: and on the internet, but you don't know about the cast.

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Speaker 5: We had to pay one hundred million to the City

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Speaker 5: of New York. And we're like, yeah, all right, all right,

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Speaker 5: right to hear all that. Hey, yeah, nobody want to

685
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Speaker 5: hear that. We know how rich you guys are. We

686
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Speaker 5: know how expensive it is in Yankee Stadium. We know

687
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Speaker 5: everything associated with the Yankees costs money. And it's been

688
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Speaker 5: sixteen years without a championship, So make sure you spend

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Speaker 5: top dollar to get Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole and

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Speaker 5: John Carlos standing back to the Fall Classic this year.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got about a minute left. One's got one

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Speaker 1: more thing he wants to ask. Yeah, I just want

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Speaker 1: to get the state of the Knicks. Mike Brown.

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Speaker 6: I saw him making jokes today at his press conference,

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Speaker 6: So I mean, things can't be that bad in New

696
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Speaker 6: York if the media is still laughing eight and one

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Speaker 6: at home. But Nicks have a lot of expectations of

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Speaker 6: the first year head coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, listen, they're banged up. They've had early injuries.

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Speaker 5: Landry Shammitt ogn Andobi Brunton was down for a minute,

701
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Speaker 5: came back, and we all know they're expected to win,

702
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Speaker 5: but they're not going to win the whole thing. Like him,

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Speaker 5: We'll see. They're a good team, and they kick Tom

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Speaker 5: Thibodeau to the curb for Mike Brown. And Mike Brown, hey,

705
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Speaker 5: what a lucky guy. He inherited a ready made squad.

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Speaker 5: They made the squad better. But I think state of

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Speaker 5: the Knicks, we know they're good, but we know there's

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Speaker 5: some cracks in their armor. Karl Anthony Towns, Jalen Brunts

709
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Speaker 5: and your two best players. They're not gonna play any defense.

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Speaker 5: You need og back, you need, but Cal bridges to

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Speaker 5: take that next step. And I just think ultimately, when

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Speaker 5: we get to the end of the year, if they're

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Speaker 5: not healthy, they're not gonna get to where they got

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Speaker 5: to go. And with all the hype and all the

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Speaker 5: expectations in New York, it is finals or bust. And

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Speaker 5: like the Knicks were never in that type of group.

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Speaker 5: That was always the Yankees, right win it all, where

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Speaker 5: it's a failure. Now the Knicks are in that group,

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Speaker 5: and I just don't think that they could do it.

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Speaker 5: But hey, they're going to enjoy the ride. And you

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Speaker 5: know they don't they say, you know, NBA don't start

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Speaker 5: so Christmas anyway, So right now to have a nice

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Speaker 5: record at home. They did struggle on the road a

724
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Speaker 5: little bit, they're not sweating it because they're still getting

725
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 5: their chemistry together, their rotations together, and figuring this thing

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Speaker 5: out very early on.

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Speaker 1: All Right, his name is Keith McPherson from NYC of

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Speaker 1: course sports talk show host and Keith my man, great stuff,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, Happy Thanksgiving to you and the fam man.

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Speaker 5: Good looking out. Big week for me, big big buzz,

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Speaker 5: big viral buzz for me this week. And yeah, I'm

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Speaker 5: not hot and I'm available, So I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 5: having me on, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, my man. We'll talk soon, all right. Coming

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Speaker 3: up next, we're gonna talk to a legendary radio.

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Speaker 1: Host from Detroit. He will give us the inside on

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Speaker 1: the Lions. It's Michael Stone from the Ticket ninety seven

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Speaker 1: to one.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: So coming up next, we got Stony. It is the

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Speaker 1: odd couple here on Fox Sports Radio. Rob Parker, Martin

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Speaker 1: weiz In for Kelvin Washington. Right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Stick and stay, especially if you've had any kidney stonies

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Speaker 3: in the USFA.

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

747
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

748
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Speaker 7: listen live.

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Speaker 3: It is the odd couple on a Thanksgiving little gig.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Rob Parker, Martin wise In for Kelvin Washington. We

751
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you hanging out with us on this holiday and

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: enjoying the sports. And maam, we got a barn burner

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Speaker 1: in Dallas thirty one twenty eight.

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00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 3: The Cowboys have the ball and the lead.

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Speaker 1: UH need a two first downs probably to win this

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Speaker 1: game because there's about three minutes and twenty one seconds ago,

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Speaker 1: So there's still a lot of time to go. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they need to drive definitely. Now let's welcome in here.

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Speaker 1: On the odd couple a guy Martin and I both

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Speaker 1: know Mike Stone, better known as Stony from ninety seven

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Speaker 1: to one.

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Speaker 3: The ticket in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: He was at the Lions big game against the Packers today, Stony.

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Speaker 3: What's happening? Couple on Stony?

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Speaker 10: Happy taks getting I knew I was gonna talk to you,

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Speaker 10: I didn't know. I get to pleasure to talk to

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Speaker 10: Martin two was probably a lot better than you.

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Speaker 3: Every danks giving stnty to get to hear from you,

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Speaker 3: my friend.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sure, Stony, that was a big loss. I mean

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Speaker 1: how big was that? As far as obviously the Lion's

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Speaker 1: trying to win the division, the playoffs, everything. They got

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Speaker 1: a gift last week from the Giants at home, and

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Speaker 1: now they lose this game.

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Speaker 3: What's what's the temperature on the Lions?

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Speaker 10: Well, now the temperate share in the Lions. I was

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Speaker 10: just on the air for two hours, people venting and basically,

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Speaker 10: you know, people are playing a lot of playing two

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Speaker 10: around Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell, injuries, whatever the bottom line

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Speaker 10: is they're not going to be in the playoffs and

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Speaker 10: because they would have to basically go four and one,

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Speaker 10: and I don't see them beating Dallas and the Rams.

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Speaker 10: So I think they're done forget about the division. If

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Speaker 10: they get lucky in some out in the sweek by

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Speaker 10: Dallas next week, the general see, Saint Brown's probably not

786
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 10: gonna play. Team is banged up, especially up front. The

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Speaker 10: if the offensive line and their defensive line gets the

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Speaker 10: dust and nothing. So, hey, that's looking mock draft like

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Speaker 10: we used to do.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but Stony, Okay, so we're looking at mock drafts

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Speaker 6: like you used to do. And it is probably around

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Speaker 6: the same time of year where you start to really

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Speaker 6: look at mock drafts like you used to do. But

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Speaker 6: how is it does on the concept of Dan Campbell

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Speaker 6: In general?

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker is ready to fire them, man, And I.

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Speaker 1: Just said that the windows closed, Tony, and you'll go

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Speaker 1: back to me. They had a great opportunity to get there.

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Speaker 3: So is the window closed on this iteration of alliance?

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's closed, depending on what happens in

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Speaker 10: the off season, because they're really good players are signed

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00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 10: long term, right, Gips has to sign it. Branch has

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Speaker 10: to sign it, but they will. You got Saint Brown,

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00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 10: you got sool, you got hunch shoes. You know you

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00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 10: needs help. So if your foundation is there, uh so,

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Speaker 10: that's why I don't think the window is closed percent. Now. Eventually,

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Speaker 10: maybe two years, you're gonna look at who the next

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Speaker 10: quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: Going to be.

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Speaker 10: To tell you, Shampfort, they decide what they're gonna do

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Speaker 10: it They obviously this Jammy's probably done the rest of

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Speaker 10: the season, and that's not why they're losing that. Look,

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Speaker 10: Campbell is done a great job falling off. He made

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Speaker 10: these thinks addiction decisions today I didn't like, but that's

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Speaker 10: what that's what they do. I mean, great day, I

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Speaker 10: can't play start winter fourth Nity in there. So he

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Speaker 10: got away with it. But that's football today. They should

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Speaker 10: have canceled, should have taken a field goal earlier when

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Speaker 10: I was still a too possession game. He should have

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Speaker 10: punted at one point, but from the bottom behind you

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Speaker 10: think I pied up in the trenches. That's the most

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Speaker 10: important thing. And then a lot of mascular injuries and

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Speaker 10: as you know, one of the best centers in the

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Speaker 10: last decade is coming back.

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Speaker 3: But it's too little, too late, all right?

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Speaker 1: Uh so again, last things, Tony, Uh, you do not

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Speaker 1: believe they'll make the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Martin?

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 3: I'm with you? I actually picked it. Did you pick

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Speaker 3: it before the season or did you pick it now? Questions?

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Speaker 10: I thought they'd make the playoff because I thought that

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Speaker 10: I picked them to finish ten and seven basically for

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Speaker 10: eleven and six, I don't remember which, and I didn't

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Speaker 10: see how Look, if nobody puts the Bears, we're gonna

836
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Speaker 10: have the record they're having, So Minnesota would be better.

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Speaker 9: I could be day.

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Speaker 10: I thought, keep tweeting them with the Packers, and once

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Speaker 10: the Packers did the right thing and got Michael Parsons, Hey,

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Speaker 10: well that's that's what won the commission that I think

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Speaker 10: for them.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hey, thank Stony. We appreciate you taking some

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Speaker 3: time with us.

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Speaker 1: Michael Stone, Stony my old radio partner from the Odd

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Speaker 1: Couple back in the original version of this show back

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Speaker 1: on WDFN and Detroit. Stony, my man, Happy Thanksgiving as you,

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Speaker 1: Cindy and the girls and the family with you, Hey, Martin.

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Speaker 10: One question, did Jla honor of a chance on Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? The hands one hundred. There's Martin to Holmer. Of

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Speaker 3: course they do.

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Speaker 1: He picked him every year. That's what they said last year,

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Speaker 1: year before, a year before. You Now, all right, Tony,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Michael Stone. Uh were you surprised that

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00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Tony said that they're not making the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean I think they have a better

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Speaker 3: shot than he has.

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Speaker 6: I think they split between the Cowboys and Rams, but

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Speaker 6: they're only outside looking in.

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Speaker 3: It's not crazy, no.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, coming up our number two of

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Speaker 1: the program. Uh, it's real simple. Are you rooting for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs not to make the playoffs?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: They are losing thirty one? What happens on the next

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Speaker 1: three minutes, It might be easier for you to root

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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, but I'm just saying in general, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think they've used all that

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Speaker 1: timeouts now, haven't they have? They used them all?

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Speaker 3: Okay, the city's out of timeouts, Dallas still as them.

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Speaker 1: So we'll do that and much more our number two

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Speaker 1: on the odd couple on this so Thanksgiving evening.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you know what you better do, stick and

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Speaker 3: stay America