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Speaker 1: we have our best Bets NFL Week four Good podcast. First,

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Speaker 1: my top takes of the week Number one the Rams

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Speaker 1: pretty much dominating Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. There are

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Speaker 1: games throughout the course of a season which are really

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Speaker 1: difficult games to win. For instance, we always know that

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Speaker 1: road teams on Thursday Night football, that's a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: You know, if a team was opening a stadium, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bears playing the Rams at SOFI first time with fans,

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Speaker 1: so big in Los Angeles, Sean McVay, Matt Stafford facing

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champions. And that is not a knock

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Speaker 1: on the Buccaneers, Bruce Arians and Tom Brady, but you

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Speaker 1: know the NFL, there are upsets. There are certain games

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Speaker 1: they just evaporate. I thought the Buccaneers just stepped into

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Speaker 1: And I don't think Tampa ever matched the urgency I

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Speaker 1: You know, I had the toughest time with with Mistra Sports.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm really surprised that he's not on the

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Speaker 1: team right now because I always had the toughest time

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Speaker 1: with Mentroll Sports. I think he's the one officers along

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Speaker 1: in that only healing gave me one like sack wow.

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Speaker 1: He he would always it would always be so tough

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Speaker 1: to play mental Sports. And then the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes and everybody else was hands was it

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Speaker 1: hands was le I don't know what it was. He

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Speaker 1: was a smaller, he was a small office. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: was a smaller officers along, but he just I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I just maybe I was in my own hid but

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Speaker 1: I always had such I always had the toughest time

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Speaker 1: with Mittell Sports, and I would see other guys have

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Speaker 1: success versus Mintraal sports. But whenever I went against him

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Speaker 1: and would I wouldn't. It would be the weirdest thing

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Speaker 1: for me. Like any movie I would try, he would

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Speaker 1: be sitting on there and anything, any good rush that

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Speaker 1: I would have. Patrick Mahomes would you know he would

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Speaker 1: trump that and you know Scrambo, you know, throw the

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Speaker 1: ball the way. But playing against the mister Surts and

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Speaker 1: the kNs City Chiefs is always a tough you know

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Speaker 1: tom For me, I don't know what it was. And

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Speaker 1: it's shocking to me that mister s Wars is not

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Speaker 1: on a team right now, because I know he said

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Speaker 1: that's a good foot bog. All right, let's bring on

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Speaker 1: Tyler Dunne, founder of golongtd dot com, a newsletter dedicated

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Speaker 1: to enterprising pro football journalism, and a guy eileena on

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00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: when it comes to Green Bay Packers, where do you

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Speaker 1: land today? I mean, you know, it's funny. I look

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Speaker 1: at the Packers. I think they missed David Baktira at

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Speaker 1: left tackle. Um. Sometimes I worry about them at corner

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Speaker 1: beyond Jay Alexander, I worry about their second corner. I

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Speaker 1: worry about David Baktira. They got a pretty good pass

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Speaker 1: rush tonight, I gotta tell you, And that's a good

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Speaker 1: Niner offensive front. Where do you land with the Packers today?

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Speaker 1: What are you really happy with and what concerns you?

463
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Speaker 1: I think you have to be thrilled number one with

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers's play. I mean two weeks ago, rightfully, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of us were questioning his desire, how vested

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Speaker 1: he was into this season. It did not look good.

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00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: It was ugly against New Orleans, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that was a quarterback tonight that delivered in big moments

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Speaker 1: like he has his whole career. So that's probably was

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Speaker 1: giving them a sigh relieve more than anything is the

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Speaker 1: quarterback that was MVP last season. That's what you saw

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Speaker 1: against San Francisco defensively though, man, I mean, that's about

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Speaker 1: as impressive as Green Bays defense. He looked in a

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Speaker 1: long That's what I thought. I mean, they got pressure

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Speaker 1: from guys like Dean Lowery. I mean you see that

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Speaker 1: spin movies around Roppolo's face at corner. You know Eric Stokes,

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Speaker 1: I know he's young, He's gonna give up play. Hey,

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Speaker 1: he had a couple of He'll tell you what, Tyler,

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00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: he's sticky. You don't separate from him when they took him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a couple of scouts reach out

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Speaker 1: to me as a listening like, whoa this guy can play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just got themselves a player. Maybe Aaron

483
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Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't like it. It's not a weapon, that's a

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Speaker 1: cornerback that's going to play sooner rather than later, which

485
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Speaker 1: is such a premium position as we're talking about with

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Speaker 1: this game in San Francisco needing an Eric scope. So

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Speaker 1: I think the upgrade from Kevin King in a big

488
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Speaker 1: way there. And I mean, yeah, there were penalties that

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00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: kind of mundy the game up a little bit. But

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Speaker 1: I think defensively, after what you saw against the Saints

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Speaker 1: and really that first step against the Lions was just

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Speaker 1: as ugly, that's about as good as great based defense

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Speaker 1: has looked in a long long time. You know, the

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Speaker 1: Rams really match up with Tampa well, Tyler, because they

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Speaker 1: have a great corner and Jalen Ramsey, as do the Packers.

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Speaker 1: So you can kind of take Mike Evans out and

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Speaker 1: force Tom to go to second third options. The second

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Speaker 1: thing of which the Packers had tonight. Kenny Clark creates

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Speaker 1: an interior pass rush. Aaron Donald creates a rush on

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady's feet. That's the way to kind of make

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Speaker 1: Tom move. And those are two big things. I think

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Speaker 1: the Packers have an elite corner they can get sometimes

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Speaker 1: they can get that interior rush, which is big. You know,

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00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: we forget that Green Bay had Tampa in real trouble.

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Speaker 1: When I watched this game tonight, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I've felt this way about the Packers in two years.

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00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: I thought they kind of physically took it to the Niners.

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Speaker 1: I really did a lot on the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: It's a very good point, you know, just that that physicality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: every time they go up with Santa Clara, it's like,

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Speaker 1: and you know, throw in Seattle too that you know,

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Speaker 1: we're going back a few years. But those legions of

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Speaker 1: Boom teams and then it kind of spilled into San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: It's it's kind of year to year coach to coach,

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Speaker 1: Eric to Er, the Packers just look soft against the

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Speaker 1: big teams. Yeah, and they get their butts kicked, and

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: even if they would have lost that game. You're right

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00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: up front, they were pushing people around, and they're pushing

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Speaker 1: people around without some of their big bodies in there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're missing a lot of their big men

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Speaker 1: that do a lot of that stuff. So offensively and defensively,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that, you know, San Francisco didn't

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Speaker 1: just play downhill the whole game and run for two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards says a lot about your progress as a

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Speaker 1: defensive It says a lot about Brian Grutikins, you know.

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00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the GM that the quarterback himself put

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Speaker 1: under fire for six months, and that was a team

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Speaker 1: with a roster ready for this moment right right, ready

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Speaker 1: to kind of beat a team that's pushed them around

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Speaker 1: year to year. I think that top to bottom the rosters,

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: it's strong, and it's strong with that kind of player,

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Speaker 1: with that kind of mentality that Green Bay has been

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Speaker 1: lacking most of Aaron Rodgers' career. Yeah, I feel like

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00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: a Marie Rogers or Randall Cobb. Probably Randall cobbed in

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00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: the next month, but a Mari Rodgers probably beyond. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's going at practice, and I

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00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: don't get the inside stuff on this. I think he

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Speaker 1: has to emerge at some point this season. Is that fair?

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Speaker 1: The Clemson kid. I just when I watched Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: my one big push is listen, man, you face you face.

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Speaker 1: Like let's say the Packers face the Rams and Jalen

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00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Ramsey takes Davante to some degree out of it. Like,

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Speaker 1: you've got to have a second and a third weapon. Now,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, Green Bay has done a great

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Speaker 1: job to develop some young tight ends over the years,

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Speaker 1: and they've they've got another one. But um, I just

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00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: feel like they've got to They've got to develop a

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00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: second I mean because now you look at the Rams.

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Speaker 1: If you get into a shootout with the Rams, I

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Speaker 1: got Cooper cup I go Robert Woods. They use their

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00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: tight ends. I have Deshan Jackson, I have Van Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Like gay, it's not going to be as you know

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Speaker 1: you can. You can just throw the ball on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the field. You When I look at

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: the it's really funny title. I look at the AFC.

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00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: I really like Buffalo and you cover the entire league.

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00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are for real. Kansas City will

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00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: be fine. Baltimore is a tough out, so's Cleveland. When

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Speaker 1: I look at the NFC, I really I'm Tampa ram Ms.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the Packers match up with the Rams?

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Speaker 1: Because I think they match up with Tampa, I do.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Alexander can take Evans out. They'll

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Speaker 1: get a bullrush. I don't know if they match up

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. The Rams, I mean they just dragged

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Speaker 1: Tampa and it was shootout. Tampa couldn't keep up, couldn't

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Speaker 1: keep out it. That score doesn't really do that game,

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Speaker 1: just as I think anybody watching that drive for drives,

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00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean they just slapping around. It was ugly. So

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Speaker 1: I think it right now the Rams, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they keep this up, right. I mean, eventually, you got

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00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: to think some smart coaches, smart coordinators are going to

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Speaker 1: throw something at John McVeigh similar I mean, Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: and that Super Bowl. He made Sean McVay look like

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Speaker 1: a high school coach. He had no answers for anything.

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Speaker 1: So at some point in that can they figure this out?

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Speaker 1: Right now? They can't. Right now the Rams are scoring

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Speaker 1: at will. Every game is going to be a shootout.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Stafford looks like a robot back there.

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Speaker 1: I mean just picking and choosing whoever he wants, whenever

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Speaker 1: he wants. And if you're Green Bay, you're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: play that type of game. I tend to agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win in the thirties and never

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: have to win with somebody else stepping up, because in

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Speaker 1: their defense, I mean, that's the standard. I mean, teams

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00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: are copying what the Rams have done with Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have one corner, you let him

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Speaker 1: take somebody away, and you kind of bring a safe,

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00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: another safety over there to the other side. You brack

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Speaker 1: a two back there. If you need to force teams

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00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: to go the long way, they're they're they're gonna have

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00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: to score to keep up. And I come kind of

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Speaker 1: like rationalizing and conditioning everything I say, because I do

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Speaker 1: like markuez Valda Scandaling. I think that there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to love there. His size and speed, there's so much good.

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Speaker 1: And then you know he might have a drop, he

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: might fall down to the top of a route. He'll

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00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: have that one mistake that kind of drives fans nuts.

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00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: The fumble against Indianapolis last year. They're relying on him,

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Speaker 1: so one way or another, the season could come down

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Speaker 1: to Valda scandal. All right, my buddy, Chadmill, Chief content Officer,

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Speaker 1: Action Network, this game, I'm gonna let you lead me,

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Speaker 1: because I when I don't understand something, I am willing

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Speaker 1: to acknowledge. I'm not the smartest guy in the room,

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00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and I take advice and I listen. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the Patriots buccaneer's line. The Buccaneers are better. The Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: are good news coming off a loss. Anything about overlooking

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00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Mac Jones not going to happen. Brady's not going to

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Speaker 1: overlook going to Foxborough. If you really look at what

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Speaker 1: the Patriots do, they're averaging about three yards an air pass.

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Speaker 1: They have no ability to beat you deep, which is

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneer's primary weakness, their secondary with injuries. So the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneer's weakness is really the weakness that can't. It won't

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Speaker 1: be beaten by New England. This line should be bigger.

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Speaker 1: I think New England is over their head. I think

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: if any player in this game is nervous, it's mac

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Speaker 1: Jones facing is idol. I don't think it's Brady returning

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00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: to a familiar environment. I think Vita Villa and that

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Speaker 1: defensive front. I think Todd Bowls to this point has

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: not had many zero blitzes. They've been playing a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a bend, don't break defense. I think they're

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Speaker 1: going to be a little more aggressive for the first

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Speaker 1: time this year. I think it could get ugly. I

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: would take Tampa Bay to win by ten or more,

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00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: but I don't understand the line. So explain it to me.

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00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: The line is the way it is right now because

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00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: bookmakers are deathly afraid of what happens if they go

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Speaker 1: any higher. Because right now it's at seven points. Every

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Speaker 1: time it goes to seven and a half. If it

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Speaker 1: gets there, huge, huge money will come in on the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: And it's not because everyone thinks it's going to be

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00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: a very close game. It's not because people think Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is the genius that he is or is not,

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Speaker 1: depending on if he has Tom Brady. It's only because

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00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: of how these games play out. And this is where

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Speaker 1: it always gets interesting about betting. It's what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: right It's not about the Buccaneers and the Patriots. It's

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Speaker 1: about the number. It's not about the Jets game and

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Speaker 1: the Titans game. It's about the number you play home

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Speaker 1: dogs at that big of a number, because over the

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Speaker 1: long term, that's how you make a bigger ROI. It's

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Speaker 1: not a sexy answer, like it's not a Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: what happens in this game, and this is why you

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Speaker 1: want to play the Buccaneers or the Patriots. It's only

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Speaker 1: about the number. So many times I can tell you

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Speaker 1: betters won't even look at the teams. They'll just look

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Speaker 1: at the number and see who's home in a way

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Speaker 1: and feel like they have an edge by playing the

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Speaker 1: side where there is a huge home underdog. That's just

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Sometimes in this game, there is ninety

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Speaker 1: three percent of the money and two percent of the

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Speaker 1: tickets coming in on the Buccaneers. Every scenario there is

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Speaker 1: says play the Patriots. I'm not gonna like. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's just like if I'm playing the Patriots. It's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a taste because that's what you do

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Speaker 1: with that kind of number. But I don't love it.

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Speaker 1: I like the Jets on the money line more than

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Speaker 1: I like the Patriots against the Buccaneers. All right, Melman,

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Speaker 1: good good talking. Anybody see your brother. The volume