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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: Is this this Morning Combat?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah? I mean oh yeah, right, you know, French

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Speaker 3: creepiness aside. Oh yeah, we're back at it with a bang.

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Speaker 3: It is Friday, June second, twenty and twenty three. This

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Speaker 3: is the show that wins all them awards. Right, It's

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Speaker 3: called Morning Combat, your Combat Sports showcase. I am one

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Speaker 3: half of your hosting duo, the BBC with that bde

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Speaker 3: the way I was raised, folks, Brian Campbell coming at you.

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Speaker 3: A great show today and a great co host next

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Speaker 3: to me this Friday. He's Washington, DC's finest. He's also

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Speaker 3: watched his shit. Ah that's Luke Thomas baby, Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: What up? BC? How are you, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You know, skitzing bits, A couple other things going

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Speaker 3: on in my life. That's about it, Luke. Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: all I got going on at the moment. But uh,

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Speaker 3: happy early summer to you. The weather, Luke today and

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Speaker 3: Connecticut's is gonna be in the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Then tomorrow's a high sixty one. You gotta love it, Luke,

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Speaker 3: you gotta love.

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Speaker 2: It, right, Uh, you don't have to love the heat,

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Speaker 3: No, you love the uncertainty. Who's been messing with the

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Speaker 3: Morning Combat. But no, thank you for joining us. Fans.

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Speaker 3: you know, look, we do have some of those listeners,

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Speaker 3: Luke right of Society.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but you know, everyone's got an expiration date. Perhaps

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Speaker 2: they have hit theirs.

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Speaker 3: There it is, Luke, we want to keep you alive.

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Speaker 3: right Speaking of trials, yeah, we're talking about the best thing.

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Speaker 3: Combat sports, documentaries, movies, all that great shit. Pound the

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Speaker 3: let me tell you what you will, you definitely will,

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Speaker 3: Luke Thomas. We don't do long intros anymore, and I

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Speaker 3: don't even think we have sponsors anymore outside of this

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Speaker 3: have anything to say to the people heading into this

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Speaker 3: Did you enjoy Luke Memorial Day weekend four days off?

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Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that could have easily made my top five. Luke,

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Speaker 3: How am I skitting or bidding? When I just said

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Speaker 3: number five, Luke, and then you cut me off.

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Speaker 2: You said, in totality you doing my bit there?

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Speaker 3: Because I get yeah, I mean, I thought you'd be

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Speaker 3: forces with you. Correct, true, yeah, fair enough? Maybe all right, Luke.

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Speaker 3: The UFCPI the Performance Institute. We rightfully give a lot

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Speaker 3: That's all very fair and polite. Look, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would like to see some elements

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Speaker 2: But it is to me, while initially creative, it's always

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I've been I've been there. I've been lucky

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Speaker 2: really really bugs MEBC that like a great fighter like

433
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: Vedem Nemkov who's in Baltore, you can pick you know,

434
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 2: Anatotlely malikin in one, we're just not getting an accurate

435
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: statistical read of what kind of fighters they are. They

436
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 2: can pass the eye test, which is valuable, but I

437
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 2: think you just miss a certain degree of really understanding

438
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: who a fighter is, especially when they've got twenty thirty

439
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: fights in their career, really getting a much better, cleaner,

440
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: more precise picture of it. I love that this is

441
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: such a part of their product, in addition to already

442
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 2: being tied to that library. It's a big, big one

443
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: two punch for me in their favor.

444
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there you are, you sub tweeting shouting out

445
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: dick boy, Richard Mann. Are are our friend there in

446
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: the stat game for being one of those fantastic members

447
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: of that society.

448
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 2: Lug Well, a subtweet would be an insult, so I

449
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: don't think I'm insulting him. But yeah, well, our.

450
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: Compliments tend to toe the line, right. I just called

451
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 3: the guy dick boy, So I'm saying it's just it's

452
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: kind of it's kind of close, Luke.

453
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's you. But yes, but I knew

454
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: the original founder. I have lunch with him usually like

455
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: once a week, once a year. Ronnie is the original

456
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 2: founder and they work in there based here in DC.

457
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 2: It's a DC outfit, but it's the official stats provider

458
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: and they're they just don't have a great competitor at all.

459
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: In terms of who can provide these services to me,

460
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: it has really made a difference in what how I

461
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: view the sport and how I enjoy it.

462
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: I thought that was a very positive soliloquy you gave.

463
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: You even put UFC in the term full throated in

464
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: the same sentence, Luke, without talking about Octagon Girl tryouts.

465
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 3: And I also can respect that, and I think it playsure.

466
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 3: I think it plays perfectly into my next point, Luke

467
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: number three, at the moment of what I love about

468
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: the UFC, I mean this, and this ain't no virtue

469
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: signal women getting equal billing and respect across the board.

470
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: So here's what I actually mean by that. This is

471
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: something that even though UFC was late to the game

472
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: on women's fights, and it took you know, Strike Force

473
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: and Showtime and Cyborg and Coronto and then you know,

474
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 3: Rousey and Tate to really help this sport go full

475
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: bloom and get to where it did. But once UFC

476
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 3: hired are signed around to Rowsey, excuse me, Look, I

477
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: think overnight they not only made female fights a destination,

478
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: but they from the beginning presented it as equal to

479
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 3: the men. Even to this day, how many times do

480
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: we see female main events and we don't have to say, oh,

481
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: history made again, this is the fifth time. No, it's

482
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: like no that like not only Luke are these fights

483
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: hella exciting. But a lot of times, whether we're talking

484
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: about strawweight or now flyweight, bantamweight and featherweight have their

485
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 3: issues in terms of competition and depth, but we are

486
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: talking about the best in the world, very high quality.

487
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: Some of the biggest struggles for women's boxing in the

488
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: times that it's been so up and down, and right now,

489
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: by the way, it's very up and I'm happy to

490
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: see has not only been a lack of depth, but

491
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: I think a lot of times a lack of elite

492
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: consistency across the board. You have like one or two

493
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: very good fighters and everyone else. You know, from day

494
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 3: one of launching the straweight division in particular, it's been

495
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: you know, this, this is world class, this is this

496
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: is high level skill. This is great. So I think

497
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 3: that's something that doesn't get talked about enough. And it

498
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: extends obviously to things like lris Cenko and pioneering and

499
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: becoming the second female announcer in company history, and but

500
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: I think in general it's like we don't he in

501
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: the fighter pay issues, which is big. We're not hearing

502
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: a big argument on the disparity between male and female Luke.

503
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: And it's never been like, oh, we're rolling out the

504
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: female fights, let's go get a bathroom break. From very

505
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: early on, it was presented as equal. It was received

506
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: as that, and the product is, you know, one of

507
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: my favorites when I look up and down a card,

508
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 3: and that's not for Instagram reasons like you may think.

509
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 3: And if you are an absolute dirt hole, by the way,

510
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 3: you also have unrivaled access to your favorite female fighters

511
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: through various websites that we joke about too that grossness acide, Luke.

512
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: I think this is important, and I think if you

513
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: ask yourself truthfully, like like, there are some women's sports

514
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: that are great that I watch that people get behind.

515
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 3: You know, college basketball is a big one, but I

516
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: don't know if it's as like professionally presented as the

517
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: as the women's of a may side is. And I

518
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: think the UFC has been a huge part of that

519
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: taking the baton from Strikeforce fair enough.

520
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 2: I very much agree with that. Obviously, people think that

521
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: Scott Koker, who discovered run around, he was actually Sean Shelby.

522
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean she was well known because she was a judoka,

523
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: but I mean I think the recruitment process sorted through him,

524
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: and so you know, they have been Dana was famously,

525
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: of course against it until he wasn't but to your point,

526
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: once they brought it over, it was full steam ahead.

527
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 2: And very few sports operate in the way MMA does

528
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: where women are is accepted at this level, like the

529
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 2: NBA can't figure out a way to do that, right,

530
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So the UFC actually has

531
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: all right for number two. For me, there might be

532
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: some similarity with this with BC, so I'll keep mine

533
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: a little bit on the brief side, but I'm gonna

534
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: call it priming the Latin American pump. And now you're

535
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: actually seeing something like this. We think the early early

536
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: stages in China right with the UFC is opening up

537
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 2: a performance institute and they're using the Ultimate Fighter over

538
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: there as a way to recruit not just from China specifically,

539
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: but you know that sort of general part of the

540
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: world East Asia. And I think they're in such an

541
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: early stage that you can lose sight of what value

542
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: that that might provide. I looked up something I had

543
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: written actually for MMA fighting all the way back in

544
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, actually June first, twenty fourteen, so almost hitting

545
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: the anniversary here by a day, and I had spoken

546
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: to Jamie Pollack. Jamie Pollack was the guy the UFC's

547
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: frontman in Latin America. And the article is not just

548
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: about Mexico. In fact, it's mostly about the entire Spanish

549
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 2: speaking region, and it goes through all of the things

550
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: that they were trying to do, including launching a UFC

551
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: network in a lot of these countries that was on

552
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: over the air television of course BC. I think we'll

553
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: talk more about the Mexican efforts, but beyond that, I

554
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: want to say, like we are so accustomed out of

555
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: seeing shows in the Apex, we have kind of forgotten

556
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: that there were times when the UFC was visiting Montevideo,

557
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: they were visiting Chile, they were visiting all these are

558
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: other parts of Spanish speaking Latin America. I know they've

559
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: got their site set. I think on doing shows in

560
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: column and at some point and beyond, and I cannot

561
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: tell you that every time I go to this part

562
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: of the world, I see more and more and more

563
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: enthusiasm just general visibility for Mma, and you can lose

564
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: sight of the fact that these efforts that pay dividends

565
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: down the line. And I think a lot of people

566
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 2: want to say, well, it's the people indigen you know,

567
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: who are native to these countries, who are the local promoters,

568
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: who are you know, they are really the backbone of

569
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: the sport there, which is absolutely true. But but you

570
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: cannot overstate the impact it has when the UFC puts

571
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: its effort and real branding and promotion into launching into

572
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: these other markets. And I think it has paid an

573
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: enormous dividend that we're only collecting from right now, really

574
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: on the Mexican side, but I think there's going to

575
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: be a wave, probably in the next ten years at least,

576
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: a certain much more visibility from a lot of these

577
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: other countries in Spanish speaking Latin America, by no small

578
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: part by the effort that Pollock was let go two

579
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: years later when the UFC ended up getting sold to Endeavor.

580
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: But that effort that they undertook, this are from Mexico

581
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: all the way down to Argentina, it continues to pay off.

582
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: It is still building on itself and already we've seen

583
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: some of these rewards and I think there's a lot

584
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: more where that came from in the next five to

585
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: ten years.

586
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember it's Colombia, not Colombia. But look, real question

587
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: tied to that. Your wife is a fan of combat sports,

588
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 3: she's trained in jiu jitsu, like actually legitimately respects and

589
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: appreciates it. Would a Colombian born UFC champion be like

590
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: Elvis Presley in your house?

591
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Seriously, it would be a big deal. It would be

592
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: a really big deal. You'll see this like the there

593
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: are a couple of sports that the Colombians are good at.

594
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Cycling they're good at and soccer, and so you see

595
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: some heroes there. But what you'll find is like they'll

596
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: be like a famous BMX writer or like a famous

597
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, something you've never paid a lot of attention to,

598
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: but as a very specific kind of niche world and

599
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: if they excel in those worlds, they become national heroes.

600
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing. A Colombian born UFC champion would

601
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: be an absolute game changer for that country, no doubt,

602
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: no doubt in my mind at all.

603
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in your house, Luke, That's what I'm talking about.

604
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, Well my house is a given, but

605
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: yeah for sure.

606
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: All right, Uh yeah, luke. Uh what's the word I'm

607
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: looking for again? Transgentially that's the word, right, transgentile? No, no, transgenital.

608
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. What I'm trying to say is, Look,

609
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: I put the rise of Mexican MMA, and it ties

610
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: into what you're saying, but it also is its own thing.

611
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: Why because look, I come from boxing, where not only

612
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: is the Mexican fan base just you know the backbone

613
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 3: of the sport who's got the best when we tie

614
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: like stereotypes, not negative ones, but positive ones in combat

615
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: sports to certain regions, and it's like, you know, these

616
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: Russian hammers or whatever. I mean, Look, you know what's

617
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: more synonymous synonymous with the idea of the toughness that

618
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: comes with being a Mexican boxer, and it's it's it's

619
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: you know, it's like that in other areas too. Obviously

620
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: I'm boxing. The island of Puerto Rico has always been

621
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: on fire for boxing, but I mean fighting boxing has

622
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: always been part of that great nation of Mexico is

623
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: like fabric So I did always wonder, like how long

624
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: would that actually take to make legitimate inroads on the

625
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: MMA side, and I know that something UFC has tried forever.

626
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: Why because they come from boxing themselves, you know, the

627
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: Fertidas and Dana who made this company what it is today,

628
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: and know of that. But I think they always looked

629
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: at it more as like, if we could just get

630
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 3: that one star who can talk, who could become champion,

631
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 3: it could just inject that population and bring over the

632
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: boxing fans. And certainly that could have worked if they

633
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: could have gotten that. They never quite got that that

634
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 3: one individual star who was also great on that level.

635
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: But sometimes, Luke, that can just be a little and

636
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: you know, injection, and it can go away what they've done.

637
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: And it's a long road and it's a long game,

638
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: but it's great to see have changed the culture there.

639
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Now you're seeing for the first time kids that are

640
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: growing up saying I want to be mixed martial artists,

641
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: and Luke, when we do talk about those, I'm saying

642
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: positive stereotypes. Mexican born people connected with the fight game.

643
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: The toughness is there, the focus, and now you're seeing

644
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: it go full bloom with two full Mexican born champions

645
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: at the moment in Brandon Moreno and Alexa Grosso. Yeah,

646
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: you're Rodriguez with that interim featherweight strap. I Rene Aldona

647
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: fighting for the title against Amanda. Nona's coming up and

648
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, great super powerful super gyms popping up. We

649
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: know the UFC's expansion ideas with pis in Mexico and

650
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: China in the hopes of you know, eventually Africa. But

651
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: it took time, but they did it the right way,

652
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: and they did it the organic way. And I think

653
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: now this is the first generation growing up wanting to

654
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: be MMA stars. What will the cyclical you know, fall

655
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 3: out of that be with all of these actual Mexican

656
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: born champions atop of the marquee right now, it's great

657
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: to see. Luke. I've got so much love for Mexico

658
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: and the culture in so many ways. And it's you know,

659
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: fighting is fighting, right. I mean, I don't know if

660
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: you've heard it before, Luke, Dana said a few times,

661
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: but we all have fighting in our DNA, but in

662
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: the Mexican DNA, it's it's it seems to be extra special.

663
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: So it's happy. I'm happy to see that transition being made.

664
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: That's still a boxing nation, yes, but MMA is legit, Luke,

665
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying absolutely legit there and it's

666
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: good to see.

667
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: It's funny like MMA fans here in the States have

668
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: witnessed in front of them the power and the and

669
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: the passion of Irish fight fans, right, they've seen it

670
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: with their own eyes by virtue of Connor, Like you

671
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: haven't quite seen that yet in my mind with the

672
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 2: Mexican fight fans who were here at least, not like

673
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: for example, you if you go to big fights in boxing,

674
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: you will see the Mexican fan base rally in a

675
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: way that I don't think I've quite seen that in MMA,

676
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: And obviously when you go to Mexico that's different or whatever.

677
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, Cain had a couple of moments against Brock

678
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: but that they got pretty close. But you know, event

679
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: to event or you're month to month anyway in boxing,

680
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: like you go to Vegas, dude, they just they are

681
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: a resence. They cannot be missed when you go. I

682
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: would love to see something like that here for the

683
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: Mexican fans of Mexican fans, yes, but also the Mexican

684
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: fighters and the general fight community that we have in

685
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: general in the States. Indeed, indeed, all right, so I know,

686
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: I know what people are going to say is that

687
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: I was kind of sandbagging here a little bit and not. Oh,

688
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: you can get a lot of their content and they

689
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: have stats, and people think that, you know, I'm not

690
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: giving them enough do with other things. These things matter

691
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: to me greatly number one. But okay, if that's not

692
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: enough for you, how about my number one answer? This

693
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: is real simple in this one very simply stated. Some

694
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: of my happiest days of my life in the last

695
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: twenty years have been watching UFC programming. That means quite

696
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: a bit to me. I've been doing this a long time.

697
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: I've been doing it almost twenty years. And yeah, of

698
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: course I've had a lot of bad times too, and

699
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: even whether what was going on in the sport was

700
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: good or bad, sometimes life outside of it affects it

701
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: one way or the other. But just being quite candid,

702
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: when I think back on my life, even sometimes when

703
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm working, sometimes when I'm not, sometimes when I had

704
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: friends over, sometimes when I didn't, But just in general,

705
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, to the extent, I've had some happy

706
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: moments in the last seventeen years or whatever it's been,

707
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: so many of them have been filled with UFC content.

708
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 2: That's a real thing. You know, I've spent a big

709
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: part of my life being whether through work or recreationally,

710
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 2: I've been a big part of my life being associated

711
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: with what that company has done. And of course, not

712
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: everything they've done I've liked, and not everything they've done

713
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: has made me happy. But I've just had a lot

714
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: of great fun, but like not just like day to

715
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: day fun, but like memorably like fun, memorably joyful moments,

716
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: from big fights, from crazy endings, from things that got

717
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: me thinking about fights, you know, week at weeks and

718
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: months and years after a time. A lot of that,

719
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: and maybe the majority of it in the last seventeen years,

720
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: has come from UFC content. So I don't take that lightly.

721
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: I think that actually, I don't know how that sounds

722
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: to the audience, but I'm trying to be as honest

723
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: as I can. I don't know if I can give,

724
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, much more of a higher compliment than saying

725
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: I chose to spend my life around this thing. And yeah,

726
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: mostly that thing is m m A. But the UFC

727
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: has been the biggest winner in that and some of

728
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: the biggest winning so to speak, moments of my fandom

729
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: and my work life have happened through that, and that

730
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: is about all you can really do as a person,

731
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: not so much to show loyalty or whatever, but to

732
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: show I think gratitude. You know. I chose to spend

733
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: my life around it, and I would say it's given

734
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: me some of my happiest days.

735
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: I would say, Luke, the UFC two, KI and MK

736
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: have conspired to save your life and restore your heart.

737
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: I've had some other good ones you're leaving out, but

738
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: those have been those have been pretty good.

739
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: I'm sure you gotten laid once once or twice too.

740
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: I mean, rats on the sex and stuff. But Luke,

741
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: you know my number one. You know, if you can

742
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: combine my two favorite things, fighting and gas station food,

743
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: then you'd have fuck it Friday, Luke. Right, yeah, right,

744
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: But that's not my number one. Wow, all right, Luke,

745
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: My number one is very easy. Every top ten lightweight

746
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: foul right now in the UFC is a fucking banger,

747
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: bro okay, banger I'm talking about There's not one. There's

748
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: divisions that might be deeper and better at the moment,

749
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: and my number one could just have been the bandam

750
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: white title picture, right, it could have been Let's try

751
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: I'm making the Maynard what he's done to the men's

752
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: flyweight division to save it and make it so fun.

753
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 3: Like a lot of those things. But Luke, what draws

754
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 3: me to the screen most excitedly, It's a top ten

755
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: lightweight bout. It's the perfect mix of names that are

756
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: coming on, old names that are lingering at the title level,

757
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: and even older names that still have something left and

758
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: are willing to go in there and mix it together.

759
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 3: This is a non scientific experiment, but if you ask

760
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: me right now to write down the best twenty five

761
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: UFC fights I've watched over the past like five years,

762
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 3: I bet you they'd all be at lightweight. I'm in seriously, Luke,

763
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 3: outside of Joanna and way Lee one, it would all

764
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: be at lightweight. We're getting a BMF fight in this

765
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: great rematch of what I think has been the best

766
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: fight among all of these all action lightweights of this era,

767
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: which is Gae Chee and Pourier. And we're not even

768
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: mad that the gimmick belt is back, because it actually

769
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: fits and it works. Only the thing is you don't

770
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: need to go out of your way and just mix

771
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: aging veterans that are known for brawls to make brawls

772
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: happen in the top ten pairings in this The title

773
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: bouts have been as exciting as any, particularly Charles Olivera's

774
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: recent run in which he's getting hurt or compromised early

775
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: in a lot of them, but just dramatically outlast the

776
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: guy across from him later on in the fight. That's

777
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: what this division's all about. That's why up until recently

778
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: it was the best division I think of all time

779
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: in terms of its depth in one moment, you know,

780
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: just barely eclipsing that great run at light heavyweight in

781
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: the pre John Jones takeover. But damn, Luke one five five.

782
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: You know there's people like Jed Meshu, that absolute dirt

783
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: hoole who I like a lot, Luke, who think that

784
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: lightweight is still the best division in this sport just

785
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: because of what I just said, and I have to

786
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: say in terms of my interest as a fan, when

787
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: that red light goes on, when that lightweight bat phone rings, Luke,

788
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: I tend to answer on the regular Okay.

789
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I don't think that's the craziest opinion in

790
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: the world. It's pretty clear that bantamweight has caught up

791
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: to lightweight. There used to be like one was like

792
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: both were good, but one was clearly better. And that's

793
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: not the case now. Bantam Weight still I think has

794
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: made some strides. But to your point, like pound for

795
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: pound bangers, I don't know, man, that the top five

796
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: at lightweight, that's tough to beat. That's tough to beat.

797
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you good in like across the board,

798
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: across the entire ten to fifteen, it's it's just killers, bangers,

799
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: aggressive brawlers, spectacular finishers. It's just you know, it's that

800
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: perfect intersection, Luke, of greatness. And they keep doing it.

801
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: And I hope we talk about this lightweight era one

802
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: day as having been so super special, you know, I mean, damn,

803
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: I love it. But you know, look, it turns out

804
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 3: we do like a lot of things going on in

805
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: the UFC right now.

806
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: Who would have thought, yeah, well again it's a silly

807
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: little exercise, but you got to you got to hear

808
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: five things I legitimately really do like about the UFC.

809
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: How about that?

810
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: All right now, Luke, next topic is five things you

811
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: don't like about me?

812
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: Let's all right? That was good. That one surprised me.

813
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: I didn't see that one coming.

814
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: Well done, all right.

815
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

816
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: A couple of quickly mentions here on the way out

817
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: before our next segment related to news and related to

818
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: the UFC. How about this fight heavyweight a main event? Salpa?

819
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: How do I say that? How do I? How do

820
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: you say? Sao Paulo?

821
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: Luke?

822
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: How do you say?

823
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: So? My best? Again? This is gonna be my gringo version,

824
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: which is only marginally better than yours, Soo Paulo?

825
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Or November fourth, dude, Curtis Blades versus Johnson Almeida.

826
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah right yeah dude, yeah, dude, that fight

827
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: is so fucking sick. I love this fight, and I

828
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: know what the complaint is, which is a fair one.

829
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: It's a fair one, which is okay, great fight, but

830
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: if Blades beats Almeida, he's just killing off contenders that

831
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 2: could make for eventually a fun fight against whoever ends

832
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: up being champion with whatever John Jones does. Like you know,

833
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: there are in other words, like feeding everyone to Rich

834
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: Franklin so they can never get to Anderson Silva. Okay,

835
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: fair enough, they're running a risk there, but it's a

836
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: fun one to run. It's gonna be back in Brazil,

837
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: which you're gonna love. Almeida's momentum already, plus with the

838
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: crowd hyping them up, Curtis Blades will go to any

839
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: place to fight anyone shouta Curtis Blades will being a

840
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: fucking dog. I love this, and also I think he's

841
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: got the upper hand. He can sprawl on brall, He's

842
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: gonna be much better on the feet. This is gonna

843
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: be a real big test of exactly what Almeida can

844
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: do in making his grappling game come to life, because

845
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: I don't think he can beat Curtis Blade strike.

846
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you just Curtis Blaze. We've always talked about,

847
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 3: even though when he does get up to the highest level,

848
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: we'd somewhat consistently seen him come up short and you know,

849
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: dramatically come up short. But he's still, you know, I'm

850
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: arguably the most well rounded heavyweight in terms of what

851
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: he can bring in certain points across the board. We

852
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: want to see that from Almeida. So how about a

853
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: guy that can kind of keep you honest in every

854
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: area but also obviously as dominant wrestling. Damn, I can't

855
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: wait to see Luke. If this ends up being a

856
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: five round fight on the feet, We're gonna find out

857
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: how much the influence of Almeida's dad and uncle having

858
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: been pro boxers in Brazil will play into Luke, because

859
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: that's what we want to see, right I'd love to

860
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: see him get to the tidle level where we have

861
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: no idea if he can go more than a round,

862
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: or if he can do it on the feet, because

863
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: I like that intrigue sometimes. But as a fan, you

864
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: want to see how good that's striking is. Right now,

865
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: maybe this is the fight that forces that.

866
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: It could, but I don't think that's really what you're

867
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: gonna get. I think this is a bigger question of like, Okay,

868
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to outstrike him, and you

869
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: probably are not gonna be like man to man be

870
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: able to out wrestle him, but there might be like

871
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: other tricks you can pull to win. What are those

872
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: grappling tricks like again, just creating back exposure stuff like that.

873
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: What else can you do? I want to see?

874
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great. Also, Luke news related

875
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: to this Saturday's UFC Fight Night card, We're gonna get

876
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: to okay bet soon with our picks, But Luke, it's

877
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: been less than forty days and forty nights since Jared

878
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 3: Gordon was knocked out cold against Bobby Green in a

879
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: fight that was changed to a no contest. Gordon was

880
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: supposed to be back this week against Jim Miller. The

881
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: picture kind of feels like it's painted like this. Tell

882
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong. The word came out that after

883
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Wednesday's media day, the UFC medical team became aware, they say,

884
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: of something that forced Jared Gordon out of the lineup.

885
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: Is that awareness related to the fact that he just

886
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 3: had a concussion thirty something days ago. He's been taken

887
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: out of this fight. Jesse Butler is going to step

888
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 3: in last minute, and Jim Miller, who will fight anybody

889
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: at any time. That's not the question here, Luke. He

890
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: actually made an Instagram video to come back at those

891
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: in the media who have taken the pursuit of finding

892
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 3: out his new opponent a little too aggressively. Let's go

893
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: to this video too.

894
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 5: Yes, Unfortunately shared is not cleared by the commissions. As

895
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 5: a question that I had asked when his name was

896
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 5: brought up, was told everything was good, but apparently some

897
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: new details came out working on a new opponent. Please

898
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 5: love God, folks to all, like the MMA media people

899
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 5: out there, stop asking my fucking wife, like sending her

900
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: messages asking her about what's going on, like.

901
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 2: Fucking a leave her alone?

902
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: Is that a subtweet at Mike Bone? Or did I

903
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 3: just create an enemy?

904
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 2: Look good? And what's going on here?

905
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: Were they flying together? What's happening? Uh?

906
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: I would want to know. I mean, obviously he's not

907
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: gonna say, but like I would want to know, like which,

908
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: you know, I doubt that that's I doubt that people

909
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: working for Junkie are you know, texting him or trying

910
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: to d m his wife. It sounds to me like

911
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: the people from Clown Penis not Fart were doing that

912
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: number one.

913
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean, who's doing SI's MB.

914
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, but it's a dude, like

915
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: you know. First of all, here's the weird part about that, scoop.

916
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: It's like messaging his wife is weird. I agree with

917
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Jim Miller. He's very right about that. And secondly, even

918
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: if you got it, it's not going to be like

919
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: a high traffic news bump, you know what I mean,

920
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: Like you're not going to get like some avalanche of

921
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: traffic because you broke who the new uh, who the

922
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: new opponent was. So it's just weird in every direction.

923
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: It's a bunch of people who just don't know what

924
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: they're doing.

925
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: Basically, Yeah, do you find it weird that Gordon was

926
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: pulled out after he talked at Media Day about having

927
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: just been concussed, Like, is this is this too? What

928
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 3: is the medical limit on coming back this quickly from

929
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: a damaging fight like that or what should be the medical.

930
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: Well you're if you get if it's so. Basically I didn't.

931
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: I haven't looked this up, but after that event with

932
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: Bobby Green, he should have been medically suspended for a

933
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: certain amount of time coming out of that. And then

934
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: the only way you can get that cleared before it's

935
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: eventual time where it expires, which is usually like somewhere

936
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 2: between six to nine months, is to go to a

937
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: doctor and then have whatever the doctor is supposed to

938
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: give them that says, hey, he's actually fine, which again

939
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't really know what you can do besides cat scans,

940
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: which only show you bleeding on the brain. They don't

941
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: show you you know, TBI. But okay, either way, you

942
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: have to get that cleared, and I guess he did.

943
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: But perhaps that was insufficient.

944
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, I don't know. I mean Michael

945
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: Bisping was allowed to do that when he got up

946
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: from the canvas after losing his title to GSP and

947
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: hopped on a flight to China to fight Kelvin Gastolon.

948
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: That was weird, Luke. But yeah, I don't know. It

949
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: just doesn't Things don't seem to match up here. But

950
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: either way, new opponent for Jim Miller this Saturday, that

951
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 3: would be Jesse Butler, Luke. Before we go to segment

952
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: number two. Also in the news, this came out late yesterday.

953
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 3: Things have turned for Davonte Davis. So he had a

954
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: hearing in Baltimore yesterday that at the end of it,

955
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: he was taken into custody by the Baltimore City Sheriff's

956
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: Office and he was serving as we talked about a

957
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: ninety day house arrest at it, but still allowed to train,

958
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: and that house arrest was at the home of his trainer,

959
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: Calvin Ford. But Luke, they took him in and now

960
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: he has to serve the rest of his ninety day

961
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: sentence inside jail. What they haven't said is the reason

962
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: why all news outlets have been very generic and the

963
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: spokespeople from the Baltimore courts have not gone into detail,

964
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: but it's assumed, I think it's safe to say it's

965
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: assumed that there's been some violent of that order, of

966
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: that court order that set up that ninety day house arrest.

967
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: And now we see Tank Davis gonna finish that off

968
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: Luke behind bars. Interesting turn of events here, and not

969
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: a positive development for a fighter who is really pretty

970
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: much out of second chances in a lot of areas.

971
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: No, dude, I mean he's in his situation. Is impossible

972
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: to show any sympathy for dude, how do you fuck

973
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: up house arrest? Seriously? Like, again, my buddy, he is

974
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: a criminal defense attorney, and I showed him everything from

975
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: this case and I was like, did he get off light?

976
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: And he was like, yes, he absolutely got off light.

977
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of people who would have been

978
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 2: in that kind of a circle, not the Lamborghini per se,

979
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: but a similar kind of circumstance who absolutely would never

980
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 2: have gotten house arrest or anything like that. It's rather

981
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: remarkable that he did and he fucked that up to like,

982
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: just you cannot sympathize with him at all at all.

983
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: He has one billion. He pled guilty to those crimes.

984
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 2: The judge gave him an opportunity to apologize to the

985
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: victims during the final sentencing hearing. He refused to do it.

986
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: He gets house would have been I.

987
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Thought that, by the way, just to cut you off there,

988
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: I thought him not being willing to publicly apologize in

989
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 3: the court. I thought that would have been enough for

990
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: them to like be like, Okay, you're going You're going away.

991
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: I thought so too, But again this point like that, yeah, yeah, one,

992
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, they let it ride. He gets house

993
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: arrest and then he fucks that up too. Yeah. I mean,

994
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: not only does it make you worry that this dude

995
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: in no way has learned his lesson, which is just

996
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: mind blowing given how many chances he's had, but then

997
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: on top of it, he's going to have to learn

998
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: the hard way. You cannot he he has he has

999
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: more than earned everything he has heaped upon himself, and

1000
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: he has to figure this out. I mean, it's just crazy,

1001
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: fucking insane to me.

1002
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: It is. It really is. Luke Segment number two on

1003
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: this Friday. Hey, we haven't done this in a while,

1004
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 3: but we got enough things going on in the news

1005
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: where I think it's pretty interesting. There is a segment

1006
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 3: You're Boy BC created where I present news updates and

1007
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: possibly provocative statements to Luke and Luke tells me, am

1008
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: I crazy or am I onto something? Luke, this is call.

1009
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Me crazy, chingity bang bang.

1010
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Luke number one and call me crazy has taken a

1011
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: traumatic turn in the past twenty four hours. But here's

1012
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 3: how I originally set it up. Armed with new trainer

1013
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 3: Derek James. Of course, there's Ryan Garcia. He told fight

1014
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: Hub TV this week that his preferences for a one

1015
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: hundred and forty pound return coming off the loss to

1016
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: Tank would be Roly Romero, Pipple Esac Cruz or Teo

1017
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: Femo Lopez, who's fighting Josh Taylor for all four titles

1018
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: at one forty on June tenth. By the way, Luke,

1019
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: none of those fighters happened to fight on his own,

1020
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: where Garcia's promoter, Oscar de la Hoya and Golden Boy

1021
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 3: have an exclusive deal. Then things got crazy. Two days ago,

1022
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: De la Hoya was quoted by the media and saying

1023
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: that he is actively trying to get a Manny Pacquiao

1024
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 3: fight back together for Garcia, to which Garcia quote tweeted

1025
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: and said, this isn't happening exclamation point. I said what

1026
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: I wanted. It's frustrating, tired of this. Then this video

1027
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: started making the rounds about the aftermath of Garcia's lost

1028
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: a tank. Let's throw to that one, Okay, so win,

1029
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have.

1030
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: I got to see it.

1031
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: I lost. I've seen everybody leave me, and then I.

1032
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 6: Just got to see who was really there for me

1033
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 6: after the fight. Nobody was there for me, like my team,

1034
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 6: but just didn't come to the press conference.

1035
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna do nothing to you, you know what I mean?

1036
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: That's so obviously I was.

1037
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 6: I was left with somebody betrayed me in camp. They

1038
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 6: weren't trying to look out for me after the fight.

1039
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: It was like I was left with that said, that's

1040
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 6: worse than the fight, Bro, it was the worst.

1041
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: Man.

1042
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 6: I had tanks team really caring about me more than

1043
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 6: my own team.

1044
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: I had guy with me the whole way.

1045
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna I'm gonna understand who was there.

1046
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 2: With Yad, my mom and the team.

1047
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have, Bro. I look forward to seeing more

1048
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: of man for sure. Well, look, a lot of that

1049
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: is referenced to the fact that his ex trainer Joe

1050
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 3: Goosen did not go to the postfight press conference, although

1051
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 3: Goosen said public afterwards it was just miss communication. He

1052
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: didn't know they.

1053
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: Expected him to.

1054
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: But Oscar de la Joya and Bernard Hopkins of Golden

1055
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: Boy also know showed that Oscar would go public later

1056
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: and say that there were death threats against his life,

1057
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: so he no showed a reference that did not have

1058
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: fans public. I don't know about that, Luke, but that

1059
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: was where we were speculating shit last night. There's no

1060
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: more speculation. Jerry Springer Rip pretty much broke out on Twitter.

1061
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: Here's Oscar de la Hoya saying, what the f Ryan Garcia,

1062
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: It's been almost two months and you're still crying about

1063
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: the post presser. The blame for your loss is on

1064
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: you and your advisor, Lupe. He is the only one

1065
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: who pushed you to accept that insane rehydration clause and

1066
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: that is the reason you lost. Man up own that dad.

1067
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: Who is this Loupe he's referencing.

1068
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ryan Garcia's lawyer slash manager is Guada Loupe.

1069
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: I got have to look up his last name. Apologies

1070
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 3: on that. In the moment, but Lupe is his uh

1071
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 3: who reportedly Luke from people I've talked to on both

1072
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: sides ahead of Tank versus Ryan, Ryan no longer even

1073
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 3: in the build of that fight was talking to Oscar

1074
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: de la Hoya at all, and his advisor and lawyer

1075
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: was handling all of the communication between Golden Boy showtime

1076
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: does not like everybody, Okay, so let's just where we

1077
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: were at. Can you throw that please? Mikey back up

1078
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: on the screen, He would continue, Oscar and saying, also,

1079
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 3: you keep saying Tank's team offered you more support, blah

1080
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: blah blah. Bro they set you up to lose with

1081
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 3: that rehydration clause. And most importantly, al Hayman didn't even

1082
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: show up the entire week. Actually he never shows up.

1083
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: How's that for support? End quote Luke? Before we get

1084
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: to what happened after that, Like, could I jump in

1085
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: and be like, what the frick is?

1086
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: Go?

1087
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: Well, how do you even respond to this, Luca? Like

1088
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: what is happening here?

1089
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: Dude? I mean it's amazing how like rank unprofessionalism among

1090
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: people in this sport gives us so much to talk about.

1091
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: It's insane. Here's my quick take on this BC why

1092
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: are both of them fucking doing this this crazy public

1093
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: battle that makes neither of them looking And I'll be honest, like,

1094
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: I don't really know who to trust here. I sort

1095
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 2: of see Ryan Garcia's point about especially the postfight pressor

1096
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: that is really weird and that was a big fight

1097
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: and they really should have been there, And I don't

1098
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: know what the fuck the truth is, but I am

1099
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: skeptical that death threats for really a reason he couldn't go,

1100
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: But who the hell knows? I don't know the answer

1101
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: to that. On the other side, when de la Hoya says,

1102
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: you know you signed up for this stupid ass rehydration clause,

1103
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: you made all these deals, you lost fucking own that,

1104
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: he's right, he's also right. But then on the other side, BC,

1105
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, why are you fucking tweeting about this?

1106
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: Stop doing this? Dude, If you're a good deal la Hoya,

1107
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: you had Canelo Alvarez who had a lot of issues

1108
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: with you, who walked out, and now you're battling with

1109
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: like your last big oldfuck.

1110
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: What was that fuck? Because it's going to play into

1111
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: how I te it up, Luke. That would continue overnight

1112
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 3: most of the tweets have been deleted, but Ryan and

1113
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: him went back and forth. Finally, Oscar was like, why

1114
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: are we airing this out publicly? Your job is to fight.

1115
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: My job is to promote the fight. Oscar patted himself

1116
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: on the back essentially during that fight week against Tank

1117
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: for causing the drama, right and talking shit that kind

1118
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: of like helped promote that. Oscar's taking credit for that.

1119
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: But look, the fact that he's doing it so openly

1120
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: is wild. So let's play into this. Call me crazy.

1121
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: All the opponents Ryan Garcia mentioned don't fight on his own.

1122
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 3: Ryan doesn't have the Zone deal which we talked about

1123
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,479
Speaker 3: ahead of the Tank fight. It's Golden Boy that does.

1124
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: Ryan resigned with Golden Boy. I believe to open twenty

1125
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: twenty two to a multi fight, multi year deal. No

1126
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: information in terms of the totals or how many fights left, Luke,

1127
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: call me crazy here, but losing Ryan Garcia could be

1128
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: an actual death blow to Golden Boy Promotions, and it

1129
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 3: doesn't look like King Ryan wants to stay with these

1130
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 3: folks at all. You were getting into, and I interrupted

1131
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: you the fact that Oscar recently had the biggest start

1132
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: in the game Canelo, and that fell apart disastrously. Yes,

1133
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: Golden Boy still has unbeaten Walthway Prospect, Virgil Artist Junior. Yes,

1134
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 3: they have some strong veterans like Jojo Diaz and couple

1135
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: other you know that are worth watching Haimi Mungia. But look,

1136
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 3: if this is setting up for this to blow up disastrously,

1137
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 3: whether that means Golden Boy keeps Ryan and Court to

1138
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 3: keep him out of the ring, to keep you know,

1139
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: because one thing Oscar tweeted about that he took down

1140
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: last night was in response to fans that were like,

1141
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: what are you doing, Oscar, He's like, dude, I've got

1142
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: him under contract, Like he's got a fight. You're fucking

1143
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: around with the calling card you have remaining. So Luke

1144
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 3: Thomas called me crazy, but like, this could actually be

1145
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 3: the death blow to Golden Boy if this thing happens

1146
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 3: in falls apart, disastrous, se tu or false.

1147
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: These names you bring one hundred percent tury these names

1148
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: you bring up. I respect them, But dude, who's paying

1149
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: for a disowned subscription? So Jimi Mungia can fight somebody

1150
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: that they're disappointed to see fight. Jimi Mungia, get the

1151
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: fuck out of here. You already had Canelo, who was

1152
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: the big hook for the Dezone promotion more generally when

1153
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: it launched in this particular market. He is now gone,

1154
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: and by the way, he hasn't gone out and necessarily

1155
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: like hardcore trashed De la Joya, but has not been

1156
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: quiet about some of his issues that he had with him.

1157
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: I will say that for Canelo, that's the first thing.

1158
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 2: Now you're back to back the two stars you had

1159
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: in Ryan Garcia one of the still to this day,

1160
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 2: certainly even more so than before the fight, one of

1161
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: the biggest stars in the boxing one of the brightest.

1162
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: I would still say young stars. I still think it's

1163
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: very early to say exactly how his future could go,

1164
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: but definitely really extremely well. Is one of the things

1165
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 2: on the table. You're gonna fuck with that, and all

1166
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 2: you've got left are like Jimi Mungia and your Mitch

1167
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 2: like at Virgil Ortiz two Okay, fine, but like dude,

1168
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 2: that's those other two names are like good for hardcore

1169
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: boxing fans, they're not good for a general audience. Ryan

1170
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: Garcia is good for a general audience. Canelo Alvarez is

1171
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: good for a general audience. You're gonna punt on both

1172
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: of those fucking guys because you want to tweet. Dude,

1173
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you doing? You gotta be out

1174
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: of your mind. I'm not even saying again, I want

1175
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: to be clear about this. I'm not even saying that

1176
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: I know or I can declare to you that the

1177
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: substance of Dalo Hoya's arguments are wrong. That's not necessarily

1178
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: what I'm telling you. What I'm telling you is get

1179
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: on the fucking phone or in person with this kid

1180
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: and work this out. Dude, this is madness to me,

1181
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: giving me another reason I'm a disowned customer. BC. You

1182
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: lose Ryan Garcia, You're giving me a very strong reason

1183
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: to be like, why am I? Why am I keeping

1184
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: this around? Get the fuck out of here.

1185
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: I mean, what's crazy is losing Canelo. Like the fact

1186
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: that they've been able to hold it together. I get

1187
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: that they're not the featured or they're the soul featured

1188
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: boxing promotion on his own right, Eddie Hern's Mattrium Sport

1189
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: fiells sort of the other half of that, or maybe

1190
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: bigger than other half, but still they kind of share

1191
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 3: that together. But like losing Canelo could have been the

1192
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: end Oscar has experienced as a fighter, getting into her

1193
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: rift with Bob Aarram and top ranking essentially before Floyd

1194
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: did kind of the same move, like went on his

1195
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 3: own way and then started his own promotional company. And

1196
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: and you know, I mean there was there were points

1197
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: when when Oscar was had Richard Schaeffer and was aligned

1198
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: with Al Hayman, where like you could argue that was

1199
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: the number one promotion in the in boxing at the moment.

1200
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: You know, they certainly had the biggest stars. And how

1201
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: are you gonna, like you said, take this chance that

1202
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: this happens, because look, even if it goes to court,

1203
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: even if Oscar's defense is well, we've got him under contract.

1204
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: Like remember what happened andre Ward when he tried to

1205
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: get out of his deal with Dan Goosen and went

1206
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: to court multiple times and lost, and it you know,

1207
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: it just basically was this big headache that eventually at

1208
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: the end all parties were like, all right, let's just

1209
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: go our separate ways. Like Golden Boy doesn't win if

1210
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: he's in court, Luke, right, you know, they only win

1211
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: if he's fighting. So I don't think it's a bad idea,

1212
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 3: by the way, to explore the many Pakiao fight, Like

1213
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that's promotional malpractice, like Oscar saying that publicly,

1214
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 3: even if that was their intention, and I know it

1215
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: was a couple of years ago, Like that's fine with me,

1216
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 3: but you're out right lying according to Ryan Garcia and

1217
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: how you could era. I mean, Luke, I don't go

1218
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: on Facebook much right for obvious reasons, like you know,

1219
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: grandmothers have kind of ruined it for people and moms

1220
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: and nons and stuff, Luke. But I've heard someone say,

1221
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: Luke that the only people left on Facebook are racist

1222
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: and grandma's. Do you think that's true. I don't think

1223
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 3: that's fair. But I will say this though, that a

1224
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: lot of people went to high school with her more

1225
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: than willing to air their dirty launchin of Facebook, like

1226
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: the dirtiest of the dirty. And sometimes you're like, you know,

1227
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 3: eating your popborn. But a lot of times you're like, man,

1228
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: that's pretty sad, like take that shit in house, Like

1229
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: I shouldn't know this about you.

1230
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 2: Some of the marines I served with putting up artwork

1231
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: that was like modeling the Crusades. I was like, okay,

1232
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: all right, I think we're done here.

1233
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think we're done here on this topic too.

1234
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Please please ask her for.

1235
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: Saying last thing, last thing on this truly the last thing,

1236
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: one last sentence. MMA fans might be accustomed to Dana

1237
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: White butting heads with fighters and then still just kind

1238
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: of putting up with it and reaching some kind of

1239
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: new arrangement or whatever. Just life moves on. Folks who

1240
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: are EMA top boxers don't have to put up with that,

1241
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 2: like at fucking all. Like they don't have to put

1242
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: up with that, not nearly as much as you might imagine.

1243
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: They have choices. Ryan Garcia at the end of this

1244
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: deal is going to have big time choices. Oscar is

1245
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: making a tragic mistake. There you go.

1246
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: Number two on call Me Crazy Luke A former UFC

1247
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 3: Flyweight Challenger title challenger Tim Elliott's back this week in

1248
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: the Cage. We didn't get into it here on MK,

1249
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 3: probably for reasons of decency, but I'm sure you know

1250
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: he posted a tweet a few weeks ago accusing his

1251
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 3: ex wife and UFC fighter Gina Mazzani of cheating on

1252
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 3: him with his own training partner, Kevin Krum. I'm not

1253
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: here to deal with those details, but Elliott did tell

1254
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: him in May media this week that he was overwhelmed

1255
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: by the positive support from the typically nasty MMA community,

1256
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 3: from fans, fellow fighters. All that, but Luke, this is

1257
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: another MMA power couple splitting up and doing so very publicly,

1258
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 3: and if you think about it, there tends to be

1259
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: enough salacious shit across the board regularly going on that

1260
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 3: UFC actually could follow WWE's lead here now that they're

1261
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: in the same company, and create a cable ratings bonanza

1262
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: similar to what WWE did with reality shows Total Divas

1263
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 3: and Total Belas, but using active MMA personalities and power couples.

1264
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 3: That would not only allow the fighters with big personalities

1265
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: in no shame, because you'd need no shame to be

1266
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: in these shows to pull in healthy side income and

1267
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: you can argue with that's shameless, well so is showing

1268
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: your buttthole and OnlyFans, Luke. It would also further promote UFC,

1269
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 3: the brand, the fighters individual brands. Sometimes a reality TV

1270
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 3: it's staged, but it's all a big show. There are fans, Luke,

1271
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 3: who aren't necessarily in this, watching this sport for the violence.

1272
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 3: Call me crazy, but the day to day lives of

1273
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: MMA couples and fighters would make very easy reality TV fodder.

1274
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: I hate how good this idea is. You are not crazy. Now,

1275
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: what I would say is I didn't talk about anything

1276
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: that Tim Elliott put on Twitter related to his marriage

1277
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: and everything that was allegend in there, because I don't care.

1278
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: And when I say I don't care, and I mean like,

1279
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't care if bad things happen to you. And

1280
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is, you know, that's a very sad

1281
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: thing that appeared to happen in his personal life, and

1282
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: I certainly extend sympathy to him, but I don't you know,

1283
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: that's not what I'm in the sport to cover. Is

1284
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: that aspect of people's lives, that version of their privacy

1285
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: seems to me not really relevant. So I didn't get

1286
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: into it. But what I would say is is there

1287
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: a market for what you're talking about? Like, without a

1288
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: question in my mind, the only problem is if you

1289
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: really like did this that you know eventually like someone

1290
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: either the fighter or someone in their orbit is going

1291
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: to be like, you know, all trans people should be shot,

1292
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, there goes the there goes the show,

1293
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: Like we can't.

1294
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 3: You don't have to put it on the air loop.

1295
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: It's not live.

1296
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but you know, with somehow I'll

1297
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 2: get in there and then he'd be like, wow, now

1298
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: the show's over. Because there's a lot of retrograde views

1299
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: going around. But I think what I would.

1300
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 3: Say, rumble sports might be interested in that.

1301
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Just that's true, that's true. But I would say, like,

1302
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, like my wife watches those ninety

1303
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: Day Fiance any thing. And I got into it initially

1304
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: too when it would seem more like semi document it

1305
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: was always entertainment, but semi documentary. Now it's just straight up, hey,

1306
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: we want you guys to wreck your lives and then

1307
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: we just want to film the I think the prostitution

1308
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: of people's own human failures is crazy to me.

1309
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: Well, look, I set it up as a prostitution, and

1310
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: I think inevitably if this ever happened, it would become that.

1311
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: But I have seen in my days covering WWE where

1312
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 3: female wrestlers who were not involved heavily in big storylines

1313
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: and we're not getting a lot of TV screen time

1314
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: for wrestling actually became much more famous through just showing

1315
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: up on Total divas and like going out for drinks

1316
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 3: and having drama, you know, in terms of their friendships

1317
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: and stuff like. You could kind of build your star

1318
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 3: that way, in ways that don't necessarily need you to

1319
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 3: show yourselves naked. Luke. That's all I'm saying. Okay, Oh,

1320
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 3: by the.

1321
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: Way, what what tell me? Tell me what is shameful about,

1322
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: in your words, showing your butthole on only fans? Why

1323
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: should they be ashamed of that?

1324
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: It's my personal take on on on certain things. And

1325
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: and look, you know my well, we're all we're all

1326
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: a we all contradict ourselves, Luke. I. I sometimes talk

1327
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: about ridiculous stuff for commedic purposes on this show, but

1328
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: I think you should have a line and draw on

1329
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: a limit. I've never been for, you know, not in

1330
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: my dad adult adjusted adult adjusted years, for things like

1331
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: strip clubs or things like that. Luke, Okay, all right.

1332
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: I mean I would be honest. I'd be lying if

1333
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: I said, like, you know, I don't have higher aspirations

1334
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: for my daughter. I certainly do. Here's what if we're

1335
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: being really fair, though, the only way you should be

1336
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: ashamed is if you show your buttthole and you don't

1337
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 2: get paid for it, Like like if you do it

1338
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: and you get a sick amount of money I feel

1339
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: like that trade off, you kind of just have to

1340
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: let it rock. But if you do it and you're

1341
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: also like not even getting money for it, that's when

1342
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well you do some questions.

1343
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes it just I think it

1344
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 3: comes down to your personal preference on how much you

1345
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: value money. I always give that comparison that my dad

1346
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 3: would always like get into arguments with me and say,

1347
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: for a million dollars, I'd be ided a plate full

1348
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: of poop right in front of you, right here, and

1349
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: I just be like, Dad, you're supposed to have more

1350
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: decency than that. Like, it doesn't matter the amount of money.

1351
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna eat the poop. Okay, I do have

1352
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: I do have non negotiable human limits here.

1353
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's just two and a half million.

1354
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 3: Looks like, what about if it was a Cleveland steamer, baby, Yeah,

1355
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: all right, there you go, all right?

1356
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1357
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: But also, Luke, you could present this reality show in

1358
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: a positive way too. You could follow around Mandy and Nino, Luke,

1359
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like it doesn't have

1360
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: to be all trash, is what I'm saying. Okay, thank you.

1361
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: Very much, kind does.

1362
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: It would eventually become that, Luke. Okay, but you can

1363
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 3: have competing storylines, That's all I'm saying, Luke. According to

1364
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: Sports Illustrated, Chris mannix is reporting representatives for David Benavidez,

1365
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: the unbeaten super middleweight star, are prepared to offer Canelo

1366
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 3: Alvarez close to fifty million dollars in guaranteed money for

1367
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 3: a fall pay per view showdown Benevitez, if you're wondering,

1368
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 3: is promoted by Sampson Lukwitz. Here's the problem for me, though,

1369
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 3: between fighting Floyd ten years ago, headlining countless pay per

1370
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: views over the ensuing decades, and having once signed a

1371
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: de Zone deal for three hundred and sixty five million

1372
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: that I know Canelo didn't already didn't get all of that,

1373
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 3: but you get my point. Alvarez has made a shit

1374
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 3: ton of money, probably more than any other fighter not

1375
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: named Floyd or Manny, right like, seriously, That's never necessarily

1376
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 3: been his motivation, but he does take things like honor

1377
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 3: very very seriously. So Luke, I love the fifty million

1378
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 3: dollar offer. I hope they do this fight this fall. Book.

1379
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: Call me crazy, but the quickest way for David Benavidez

1380
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 3: to lure Canelo Alvaz into a fight would actually be

1381
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 3: attacking his man hood publicly, and something you brought up

1382
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: in the past as a throwaway line that I loved,

1383
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 3: trying to turn the Mexican fan base against him. If

1384
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 3: you come out aggressive, nasty, in the persona you already

1385
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 3: employed against Caleb Plant to take no shit personality. Because look,

1386
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: the only thing I didn't like about Benavitez after the

1387
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: Plant fight in the ring, the postfight interview was he

1388
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 3: was way too polite in saying Canelo, if you want

1389
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: to do this like I'm here, I'm ready, You're like

1390
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: a little bit too much respect. Come out and wear

1391
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 3: the black hat. And I think you're gonna end up

1392
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: with Canelo in the fall, and you don't need to

1393
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: offer him fifty million. Call me crazy, Luca.

1394
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right. I actually

1395
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: think you're right. And again, just doesn't come without risk,

1396
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 2: because if Canelo ends up winning and it's stopping him,

1397
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 2: they're gonna, you know, it's gonna be a huge part

1398
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 2: of the story that it all blew up in his face.

1399
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: Although if he wins, of course, it would only cement

1400
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 2: his legend, and there's a risk in trying to turn

1401
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: the fan base against Canelo. That also could go a

1402
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: lot of bad ways for someone. But but if you

1403
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: were trying to do it by getting under Canelo's skin,

1404
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: by representing and positioning yourself as the true flag bearer

1405
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: for Mexican boxing, the true flag bear for what it

1406
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: means to represent that place, even though you know, obviously

1407
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: Canelo was the biggest star from that country. But to

1408
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: try to find a way to like kick him out

1409
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 2: of that kingly role he has assumed, Yeah, dude, I

1410
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: think that actually could go a really long way. You know,

1411
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 2: we have people always trying to pick fights with Canelo,

1412
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: and he's pretty good about getting out of them. Like

1413
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 2: when Kamar Ruthman wanted he was just like, yeah, pay

1414
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: day pay day. Same thing with Jorge Maswell was like

1415
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: pay day pay day. And that you know, Demetrius Andre

1416
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 2: showing up the press conferences and you know, being like,

1417
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 2: you know, just get out of here, like who are you?

1418
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 2: You're nobody. He's very good at deflecting it. But all

1419
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: those guys just didn't have a compelling pitch. David Benavidez,

1420
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: if he could actually make a case for himself as

1421
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 2: the true representative of Mexican boxing the face of it. Really, yeah,

1422
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: that would be kind of honestly, wonder what that might

1423
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: do because to your point, fifty million is great, but

1424
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 2: he's got fifty million, and then some so and some

1425
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: people might.

1426
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 3: Conder Luke that that Benavitez wasn't born in Mexico, so

1427
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 3: that wouldn't work as well. And he does have as

1428
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: proud of the Ecuadorian side of his heritage as well.

1429
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 3: So I guess, you know, maybe this is not the

1430
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 3: full proof angle of going I'm the all Mexican guy,

1431
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 3: but just being aggressive and abrasive. Like the one person

1432
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 3: that it worked was was Lara Arislandi. Lara tried that

1433
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 3: Andreid move years earlier and it worked. He crashed Canelo's

1434
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: press conference, you know, tried to do it politely, but

1435
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 3: Cane was like, fuck you. And then guess what he said, Yeah,

1436
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 3: I'll fight you. I'll fight you on pay per view

1437
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 3: for your we'll bring our titles together. So I just

1438
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: but look what about the people that will say, okay, BC,

1439
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: like a stop bringing up pro wrestling bullshit? But b

1440
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: does every fight have to start with this The like,

1441
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 3: shouldn't it just be about that they're both superstars, and

1442
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: they're both stars in this division, and it's the undisputed

1443
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 3: champion against the guy who might have next, Like do

1444
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 3: we have to go to this, well I'm boxing. Yeah,

1445
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to go to that because there's no

1446
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 3: structure in this game. Sometimes it's the way to do

1447
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 3: it right.

1448
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: Also, like Benavidez, Benavidez, like in terms of how he

1449
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: positions himself, I'm not saying he can be like I'm

1450
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: more Mexican. Maybe he can't do that, but he can

1451
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: be like who rewards you more? Who gives you more?

1452
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: Who flies the flag harder? Beyond just you know the

1453
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: what I say about it, like how do I fight?

1454
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: Look at look at the way I fight? Look Like

1455
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: when you actually look at the way I fight, what

1456
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: does it tell you about who I am? You know

1457
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 2: those kinds of things you can you can definitely do that.

1458
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: All right, Luke number four, call me crazy. As you

1459
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: may know. The July twenty ninth UFC two ninety one

1460
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: co headlining fight is an absolute banger. Alex Padeda making

1461
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: his light heavyweight debut against former champion Belohovitz Hey Luke

1462
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: Daniel Kormier, the UFC Hall of Famer, was on DC

1463
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: and RCNESPN this week and he said, quote, we have

1464
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: seen Atosania hurt Padata in two fights. He can't get

1465
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 3: hit by Yon Belohovich. He hits so hard, Bro, I

1466
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 3: have seen Blohovich almost decapitate guys end quote, and then

1467
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: he referenced the dom Reis and the other big big

1468
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 3: hits or Luke rock Hold fight where Yon punch holes

1469
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: through those guys. Luke, this isn't against DC, but I'm

1470
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 3: gonna counter his point here. Call me crazy, but with

1471
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 3: full respect to the legendary Polish power, Poton has only

1472
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: been stopped once in thirty three kickboxing fights in terms

1473
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: of with strikes. He's also a former Glory light heavyweight champion. Like,

1474
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 3: call me crazy, but you know he could get stopped.

1475
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't avoid this matchup out of any fear there. Okay,

1476
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 3: out of Sonia got him twice out of Sony's arguably

1477
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: the greatest striker in this sport's history. Call me crazy,

1478
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: but I think Polton will be fine. Luke in this Okay,

1479
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 3: there's no there's no major warning here. I'm not I'm

1480
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: not actively afraid at his of his durability now moving

1481
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 3: up and weigh and facing the elites who all can bang.

1482
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 3: But I'm not actively fearful of what that means for him, Luke,

1483
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 3: He's not gonna have to make that crazy weightcut anymore either.

1484
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: That's to play into the durability.

1485
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, actively fearful against the top of the pack. No,

1486
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 2: somewhat fearful for him against Blahovich.

1487
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, all right, you kind of medicin in

1488
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 3: the middle there, all right, Maybe I'm happy.

1489
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think cool I would say this.

1490
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't think Cormier is crazy necessarily either. MMA striking

1491
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: is just different. Dude. Again, Oh I mentioned this, Yes,

1492
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: I was talking about this yesterday. But BC, like, there's

1493
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: a video by a guy who was a it was

1494
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: a belitark kickboxing champ and that was the thing. But

1495
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: he's been obviously a champion, and I think, if not glory,

1496
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: I think k one. I forget exactly where so some

1497
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: of his best work has been done. But I'm not

1498
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,879
Speaker 2: a huge kickboxing fan, not pretending to be. But Gabriel

1499
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 2: Varga is a sort of a decorated Canadian kickboxer actually

1500
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: a very decorated Canadian kickboxer. He has a YouTube channel.

1501
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: He was explaining that the two styles that these guys

1502
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: have are different and very really important ways. Atasanya, however,

1503
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: you want to say, it has all of this in

1504
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: and out movement, a little bit more like a little

1505
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 2: bit like a boxer, the leaning and whatnot, right, the trunk,

1506
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: the shoulder, the head movement, and that's style just doesn't

1507
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 2: work when you have like neuro confined spaces, especially when

1508
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: you have like combination striking and kickboxing, you can't get

1509
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 2: away with that kind of stuff as easily. But it

1510
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 2: works really well. Making guys miss works really well in mma.

1511
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: Padata is the opposite of that. He has a much

1512
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: more kickbox of your friendly style built for those kinds

1513
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: of realities, that doesn't have as much movement and defensiveness

1514
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: built into it and evasion built into it. And so

1515
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: his striking style, at least in theory, we will see

1516
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: it light heavyweight may not necessarily translate as well as

1517
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 2: people might imagine. We'll just have to see so something

1518
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: to think about.

1519
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you have to respect not being in

1520
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: the pocket for Yan's power, of course, right, but let's

1521
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 3: give this guy a chance to shine in my Connecticut brethren.

1522
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 3: All right, number five here on call me crazy Luke.

1523
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 3: So I was effing around the internet and I found

1524
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: this weird ass Jerry Springer set looking video from twenty ten.

1525
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: Let's go to the videotape, Luke Bell.

1526
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're in the air.

1527
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 4: Hi, I've only had a question for Mike from Booty

1528
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 4: Elbow dot.

1529
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: Com said again, what is blood elbow? Bloody elbow?

1530
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: Oh, bloody elbow? To see the l I actually had

1531
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 4: a question.

1532
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: I saw just that.

1533
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 4: You know, I've seen other matches that you were in

1534
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 4: and I saw that clip there. Then there's been a

1535
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 4: lot of physiological casting recently done on the sweat and

1536
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 4: the press perspiration of facts. I'm if that's that evaporation

1537
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 4: off the human body and our respect to you know,

1538
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 4: work in stressful situations and get that so called extra

1539
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 4: competitive edge. Now there's spending a new developing period that

1540
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: working out in more workout gear actually will reduce your

1541
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 4: competitive advantage? Is that what prompted you to wrestle in

1542
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 4: the speed up?

1543
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: And not even sure to say, I just I just

1544
01:14:54,360 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: like to tell you, I just like I think I

1545
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: need to go to graduate school.

1546
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 3: Okay, look, hold the phone here. I have a lot

1547
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: of questions, but for the sake of this segment, call

1548
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: me crazy, but yes, it's about time you dropped that

1549
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: fucking vape Penn started working out in your front yard again,

1550
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: because twenty ten Luke Thomas would swoll as shit in

1551
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 3: that Georgia MMA T shirt. Luke, Okay, call me crazy,

1552
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 3: but stop fucking talking about it and be about it, dude.

1553
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: What was up with that?

1554
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Bro, Yeah, I'm trying to tell you I haven't

1555
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: always been a Dodge Omney haven't always been one. I

1556
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: just turned into one, and I'm working on it. Like

1557
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 2: I told you, guys, I'm just I just you know,

1558
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 2: you can't put all this business out on front street

1559
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: all the time. But believe me, there's I did tell

1560
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: you that I hired a personal trainer. That's a real thing.

1561
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot more than I've done than just that.

1562
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 2: So trust me, trust me, trust me. I am so

1563
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: tired of the way that I look. I cannot take

1564
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,879
Speaker 2: it anymore. Hopefully this is a part to an opportunity

1565
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: to get back to something approximating that. Yeah, I was

1566
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: in great shape back through all right.

1567
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: By Springer set Channel eight News there Adele asking about

1568
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: wrestling and speedos. Luke, what what was that? What is calling?

1569
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: So that was a local show that broadcaster was he's

1570
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 2: still around. He's a legend that showed off. Doesn't exist anymore.

1571
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: But that was like a real, big, big show in

1572
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 2: the DC area. And Mike Easton, I don't know if

1573
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 2: you can show a screenshot of it one more time.

1574
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: I want you to, if you can, Mike, Mike, if

1575
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: you can just take a screen shot.

1576
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 3: She called it pooty elbow.

1577
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen. They would take local callers from the area

1578
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: who were fucking weirdo was bro. I don't know else

1579
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: to tell you, just crazy a motherfuckers who would call

1580
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: up and to be like just say the most random shit.

1581
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: That was part of it. But there's a better story here,

1582
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: which is if I don't know if there's a way

1583
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 2: to get a screenshot of Mike Easton sitting next to me,

1584
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: If we can, you'll see he has a towel on

1585
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: top of his uh like arm or hand. I forget

1586
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: exactly where it was. But what happened was this was

1587
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: back in twenty ten. This was not This was totally

1588
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: above board. This was legal after cutting weight. They were

1589
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: they would get the IV. They would get the IV

1590
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 2: to rehydrate. And however he did his IV. Yeah, see

1591
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: how it's covering his hand. See how he did the IV.

1592
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 2: He fucked it up and the thing was shooting blood.

1593
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 2: So he had to put like a wrap on top

1594
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 2: of it and then the towel to cover up the

1595
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 2: fact that this shit was not going right for him

1596
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 2: from the IV. It was a bit of a weird

1597
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 2: moment and we had to drive like straight from the

1598
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: wig Ands together to get there. So shouts to Mike

1599
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: Easton legend. I saw him on U Street not too

1600
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: long ago. He's a DC legend. So there you go.

1601
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you were hyping up d C MMA in

1602
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: that video and hyping up Mike Easton. It was great

1603
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: to see. Look, I do have questions here. Were you

1604
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 3: thin as well? I couldn't really tell.

1605
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: Were you Yeah? That's uh again, put me on screen

1606
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: one more time. I'm gonna I'm gonna guess the way

1607
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: to twenty ten. I think that was I want to

1608
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: say about two forty something.

1609
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So where were you in your in your love

1610
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 3: life at this point, Luke.

1611
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: I had been dating my wife for maybe a year,

1612
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit less.

1613
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 3: So can I declare this is twenty ten hashtag prime Luke?

1614
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 3: Is that when it was Luke right here? Are we

1615
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: looking at prime Luke right here?

1616
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, no, no, no, actually I used to

1617
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: I was much bigger than this when I was twenty two.

1618
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 2: Remember this is me at age three, that's me at

1619
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 2: age thirty. I'm telling you, bro, I haven't always been

1620
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 2: at Dodge Omni. Your boy got out there and I

1621
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: was able to do some shit with My years were

1622
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 2: better and nicer to me. But you know, okay, a

1623
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: Dodge Neon sometimes yeah, well that was better than a

1624
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: Dodge Omni shit.

1625
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So Luke, twenty two was.

1626
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: My most jacked twenty two. I was fucking enormous. Uh yeah,

1627
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: but you.

1628
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 3: Were also crazy at twenty two and not so like

1629
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: maybe this was where everything came together, Luke Prime.

1630
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe? Yeah. I told you, bro, I haven't always

1631
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: been this fucking ugly. I used to be a little better.

1632
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: So respect respect my game.

1633
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 3: Oh there we go, Luke, speaking of TRT right, that's

1634
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 3: a good transition. Call me crazy number six. Logan Paul

1635
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 3: was recently in Australia grappling with your CKB legends Israel

1636
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: Ata Sonya and Alexander Volkanowski teasing a future in MMA

1637
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: for the former high school wrestler. Here's a pick of it, Luke,

1638
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: call me crazy, but you don't need a smart Cage

1639
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 3: or Jeff Novitzky to tell you that Logan Paul spends

1640
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 3: a lot of time in the weight room, a lot

1641
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: of time like twenty thirteen vtur elements of time in

1642
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: that weight room. He ain't passing no USADA tests.

1643
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 2: Right, No, in my in my opinion, there's not. It's

1644
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I want to be very clear about that.

1645
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: It's not possible to get that jacked without without drugs. Now,

1646
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: he is also quite clearly very athletic, and I know

1647
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: he does have a wrestling background. He did pretty pretty

1648
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: well ish in in high school wrestling in Hio, which

1649
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 2: is which is very very difficult to do well in.

1650
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: Don't misunderstand me, Like, I'm not saying he's not an athlete.

1651
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: He's an athlete, but but even the best athlete doesn't

1652
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: look that way doing calisthetics. Let me just fucking be

1653
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: very clear about that.

1654
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, by the way, he is, as we've

1655
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 3: shown video of here. Apparently I don't watch anymore, but

1656
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 3: a very good pro wrestler, very or you know, I

1657
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 3: can do the high could hit the high.

1658
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: St you showed me on. Have you seen this shit

1659
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: he did to jump off the rope with his phone

1660
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 2: doing the selfie thing on the way down. Crap? I

1661
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 2: mean that's you know, he's a showman. I'll give him that.

1662
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: He's a showman.

1663
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: All right, let's close here. Call me Crazy number seven, Luke.

1664
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 3: There was breaking news right uh Tuesday night, After Tough

1665
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:43,879
Speaker 3: on ESPN's plus' show called After Tough with Dean Thomas.

1666
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 3: Breaking news. It looks like Connor McGregor has finally entered

1667
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: the USADA testing pool. So we can stop complaining. Let's

1668
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 3: go to the videotape. It does hear that Connor McGregor

1669
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:54,440
Speaker 3: has entered the usadapool.

1670
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: I repeat, Connor McGregor has entered the USTADA pool and

1671
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: we actually have the footage.

1672
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 2: Just take a look.

1673
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 3: Michael Channelly, your little rat.

1674
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sever your head, clean over for your.

1675
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: Souness and you'll do nothing. You'll do Norton, You see me,

1676
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: watch it costs more than your entire apartment I'll see

1677
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 3: you at the end of Disease.

1678
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: And Michael, why why is Connor McGregor all of a

1679
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: sudden Jamaican in that accent? Dean, That's what I want

1680
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 2: to know, is.

1681
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 3: That him wearing orange face? Is that racist? Luca, I

1682
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 3: don't know, but it was.

1683
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 2: This is this is I'm like, this is humorously racist.

1684
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: And also I don't understand why he is drinking red

1685
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: stripe and sounding Jamaican. That's a little weird, but okay, Well, in.

1686
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: Case you're wondering, Luke, that breaking news is not true.

1687
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: But shout out to Rashad Evans our boy for being

1688
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: on that show as well. Uh after Tough In all

1689
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 3: seriousness to hear, Luke, I've watched Conor mc gregor's manic

1690
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 3: behavior online very closely over the past two years throughout

1691
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 3: his injury recovery. I've also caught both the Netflix documentary

1692
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: that I reviewed last Friday's episode and the first episode

1693
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: of Tough, and I've noticed a general rabid energy to

1694
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 3: Connor's movements and speech. And I've taken notice how many

1695
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: times in public of late he's shown up places and

1696
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 3: he's appeared to be visibly drunk or possibly even more

1697
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 3: than that, Luke, call me crazy, and don't sue me,

1698
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 3: but call me crazy. Here Luke Connor McGregor isn't living

1699
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 3: the spartan lifestyle anymore at all, and at his age,

1700
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 3: his fighting performances have and will continue to show that.

1701
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: Because watch episode one.

1702
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: It tough.

1703
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 3: It don't look like he's the same guy anymore mentally, Luke,

1704
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 3: I know what I see. I know what I see

1705
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:57,839
Speaker 3: when I look into a man's eyes on a crazy

1706
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 3: Sqwitter video. I know what I see. I think he's

1707
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 3: off the rails, Luke, and I don't. I don't think

1708
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 3: it bodes well for this comeback fight.

1709
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's off the rails. Hard to say,

1710
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: but I will say this. You and I have both

1711
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: been pretty adamant that we feel like, in the right circumstances,

1712
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: whatever Connor has left is good enough to get one

1713
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: more really great elite win. Right. Yes, I still think

1714
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: on some level that's probably true. But the listen to

1715
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: the caveat there. It's what your potential is and then

1716
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: your ability to actualize it, And it looks to me

1717
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 2: like his ability to actualize whatever he has left is

1718
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: severely compromised. Like he clearly isn't. And look, he's fucking

1719
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: enjoying his life. He's built a fortune forever, h you know,

1720
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: for generations of his family, Like that's such an enormous

1721
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: monumental thing. I'm not even mad. I mean, I'll be honest.

1722
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: Would fight fans be devastated if he never fought again?

1723
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, But how could you How would

1724
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: you really be surprised? Really think about that. Would you

1725
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: really be surprised if he actually found a way to

1726
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: never fight again? I don't know that I would be

1727
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 2: that surprised, to be honest with you, I was. I'm

1728
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: not necessarily predicting that. I'm just saying that seems to

1729
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 2: be on the table much more that we're readily admitting

1730
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: or getting back to a fight and then just really

1731
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 2: kind of underperforming in a very obvious way, and not

1732
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: just from ring rust. That seems to me a very

1733
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 2: likely scenario. So I'm not even like mad. If the

1734
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: guy's enjoying his life, he's earned it times a thousand.

1735
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: But you just cannot convince me he's living in a

1736
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 2: way that's gonna get him maximally ready for Michael Chandler

1737
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: or frankly, any opponent at this point.

1738
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: I never thought I'd compare Connor to Oscar de la Hoya,

1739
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: But Luke, for all the stuff we heave at Oscar

1740
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: de la Hoya, usually rightfully, so I mean, let's not

1741
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 3: forget that. Contradictor also sent a letter to the boxing

1742
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 3: media when Maywether McGregor was announced, telling them to boycott

1743
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: the fight, even though he had earlier tried to get

1744
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 3: Floyd to fight, you know, to fight his guy. I mean, like,

1745
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 3: you know, it's just bs right. But the second half

1746
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 3: Oscar's legacy is that he was a great fighter, an

1747
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 3: Olympic gold medalist, multi division champion, the face of the sport,

1748
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 3: one of the biggest pay per view artists ever, but

1749
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: also that he fought the best all the time, always

1750
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 3: tried to make the biggest event. But Luke, he lost

1751
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 3: more than he won, pretty dramatically in the second half

1752
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 3: of his career when he stepped up to the highest level,

1753
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 3: which was often by the way, and his honesty in

1754
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 3: his post life, the times he is telling the truth

1755
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 3: has been Look, you know I was partying like crazy

1756
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 3: throughout that run. Yes, I got in shape for these fights,

1757
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 3: but like my stamina was compromised here, you know what

1758
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, you know what happens when you don't

1759
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 3: give all of yourself. Connor made the same concessions after

1760
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: the loss to Habib, where he said, I didn't listen

1761
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: to my team, And you can see this in some

1762
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 3: way play out on that documentary. You know, all he

1763
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 3: was trying to do in training was to just spark

1764
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: like crazy and fight like a maniac. Because he's preparing

1765
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 3: for the fight of getting up off the ground against

1766
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: a beab and just trying to like rabidly fight him.

1767
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: And he says, you know, I was also partying like

1768
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: crazy and nobody was checking me. I was drinking way

1769
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 3: too much. And he almost said it without saying it,

1770
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 3: Luke that he was inferring that it went further than drinking.

1771
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 3: If you watch this documentary at length, which profiles the

1772
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 3: build to his last four UFC fights, what's the one

1773
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: that we thought ahead of time that he looked and

1774
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 3: sounded the best, the Cowboy Seroni fight. It's why, even

1775
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: though that was such a short fight and didn't necessarily

1776
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 3: answer all our questions about where he was at, That's

1777
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 3: why I still lament that the pandemic broke out right after,

1778
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: because it looked like Connor was dialed in ready to

1779
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: fight three four times that year and give the best

1780
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 3: of what he has left. Even in the documentary he

1781
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: admitted after the fact that when the pandemic hit, and

1782
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 3: remember that whole stretch where he couldn't get himself into

1783
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 3: a big fight and he was sharing danas DMS, that

1784
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: he started to dip back and get back into things

1785
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 3: he shouldn't have. What's the common denominator about that? About

1786
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 3: that Cowboy fight camp. Some people suspect he had the

1787
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 3: sexual assault issue, so he was trying to play the

1788
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 3: good guy. I don't know. Watch the documentary, it looked

1789
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 3: like he was sober for the first time in a

1790
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 3: while and going all in physically, no stones left unturned,

1791
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 3: which was a big part of the narrative that they're

1792
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: trying to sell you through this documentary that he's always

1793
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: a gamer, he's always ready for the next fight, and

1794
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 3: he is. But I think it's pretty clear to look

1795
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: at that and go, here's a guy who's just not

1796
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 3: as dedicated or as hungry as he once was for

1797
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 3: obvious reasons. But this shit he's doing on the other

1798
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: end of the candle. Luke it's dramatically holding back who

1799
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: he could be on this twilight second half of his

1800
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 3: prime run or whatever. Instead, it's just a dramatic twilight

1801
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 3: because he can get into a big fight, he can

1802
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: talk his way in first couple of rounds, even he

1803
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 3: can have some big moments. But that gas out moment

1804
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: is coming right around the cour and I don't think

1805
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 3: he's showing us evidence and especially now in this tough build.

1806
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 3: And that's one of the main reasons I'm willing to

1807
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: watch each episode and review it for cheap clips here

1808
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: clicks hereah on MK is I want to see during

1809
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 3: that process coming off of that movie now trying to

1810
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 3: get back into the mindset for the Chandler fight. Is

1811
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 3: he really even dialed in, Luke? If he's not challenge,

1812
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 3: gonna challenge, is gonna handle him? Luke? Even with the

1813
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: style matchup, you know, still offering Connor if he's sharp early,

1814
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 3: the opportunity at a KO, Yeah, that's still there. He

1815
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 3: may win this fight no matter what. But tell me

1816
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 3: you have the feeling of anything you've seen from the

1817
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 3: past two years that he's like mentally where you need

1818
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: to be to succeed at this level. No, No, dude.

1819
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 2: No, And also, and also, you don't even bring up

1820
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: the fact that, dude, even if none of that was

1821
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 2: in play, even if none of it was in play,

1822
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 2: that injury he had was devastating. That's a devastating, fucking injury.

1823
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: Just coming back from that with nothing else on the

1824
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: table is a herculean task. Now you're adding in all

1825
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 2: these other complication hating factors. Good luck, dude, good luck man.

1826
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: Dude, he's got it when it's time to Actually, I mean,

1827
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: we don't know when that fight's happening. We don't know

1828
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 3: when he's getting in the testing pool, We don't know anything.

1829
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,799
Speaker 3: They haven't even booked that fight. But when it's training campet,

1830
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 3: it's go time, dude. He's got to he's got to

1831
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 3: be clean, he's got to be the spartan again. But

1832
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 3: even then it might be too late, Luke, I don't know, dude.

1833
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: You know, so again, I talked about this yesterday ABC.

1834
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 2: Let me just bring us up again. Let's let's posit

1835
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 2: something that happens in July, right, so, same day as

1836
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Spence Crawford, same day you'll see two ninety one. You're

1837
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: gonna have justin versus Dustin BC we are, we are

1838
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 2: less than I mean, we're roughly what six seven weeks

1839
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: from that at this point, seven weeks or so right

1840
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: from that moment. Uh, if the fight isn't announced before then,

1841
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: and Dustin Partier wins and says Connor, let's put this

1842
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: one up between you and me. Fourth, you know, fourth

1843
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 2: fight for the BMF belt. Let's do it, dude. They're

1844
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 2: just gonna bypass Michael Chandler completely. Like there's I know,

1845
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: like the more that time expires, the more that it

1846
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: makes that fight unlikely. And now that still might be

1847
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: the likeliest scenario, but you see what I'm saying, Like,

1848
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 2: they just let this thing go. Connor's gonna have new

1849
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: options and that's just going to change the calculus completely

1850
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 2: if he fights at all.

1851
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: By the way, yeah, I mean, what if Nate loses

1852
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 3: against Jake Paul and then he's looking for the next

1853
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 3: big payday? Luke, I think that's why they convinced Tom's

1854
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: out to miss Wait, but ah, I'm not doing the

1855
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 3: conspiracy shit, you know me? All Right, Luke, let's finish

1856
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 3: the show with a big bang. We got two more

1857
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 3: segments and they're going to be fantastic. The first one

1858
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 3: is where you and I go head to head. We've

1859
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 3: already previewed the fights going on this weekend. Now we

1860
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:41,640
Speaker 3: make our picks, five picks against each other, five different categories.

1861
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 3: This one's called Okay, bet, Luke, you have been barely

1862
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 3: hanging above five hundred, and I've been preparing to watch

1863
01:30:56,360 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 3: a metal concert later this year. I'm still here, Luke.

1864
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 3: Last week you went three and two to improve to

1865
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 3: thirty six thirty two and one overall. Yeah, I went

1866
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: two and three. I am twenty eight and forty one.

1867
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm less than ten games behind you or ten picks,

1868
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 3: so there's still plenty of time. Maybe this is the week, Luke.

1869
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 3: You know our five categories, you have champions advantage? Are

1870
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:21,799
Speaker 3: you going first or second?

1871
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I will go first? Okay, So as we customarily start,

1872
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: we go with our main event pick. Both of us

1873
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 2: are going to be using There are some boxing events,

1874
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: but both of us are going to be using the

1875
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: UFC card this weekend for our picks. I'm going to

1876
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 2: go with Kai Carra France. I do think that this

1877
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: fight will be competitive. Not would not be surprised by

1878
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: an Albasi win, but I just feel like as good

1879
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: as he is, as defensively sound as he is, as

1880
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 2: well rounded as he's become, although again a little bit

1881
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: more of a game concentrated in the clinch and the

1882
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: ground specifically. I think that Kai car France is going

1883
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: to be a little bit too much for him at

1884
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: this juncture. Give me another ckb win, all right.

1885
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna take the opposite on there. Even though

1886
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: these are both minus one ten, they're basically a pick them.

1887
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go al Bosi and Luke when I do

1888
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,440
Speaker 3: the day, So I'm kind of doing this, man, I'm

1889
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 3: on till I'm behind. I need to come back. And

1890
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: I didn't even know you were picking KKF before this,

1891
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 3: but it makes even more sense now me going al Basi.

1892
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I actually can talk myself more into believing that Kai

1893
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 3: car France is gonna win this. But my record shows

1894
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 3: you that I keep trying to use logic to make

1895
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 3: a lot of these picks. Luke al Bozzi just might

1896
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 3: be that dude. He's coming on I talked about. I

1897
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 3: talked him up on Wednesday, big about you know, his

1898
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 3: road to get here, the finishing mentality, everything about him.

1899
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 3: The odds makers believe in him as well. Luke that

1900
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 3: he could be a problem here for Kai Car France.

1901
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 3: I expect, as always with these elite flyweight bouts in

1902
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 3: the post suhudo era here, that they're gonna be dynamic

1903
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 3: and high volume and awesome. Give me Albasi though, Luke. Okay,

1904
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make a comeback here. Okay, I'm gonna take

1905
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take him on reputation, the Iraqi and Hammer.

1906
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 3: I'm ready for this. Okay, there you go.

1907
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: What did you call him.

1908
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 3: The Iraqian Hammer?

1909
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 2: Iraqi?

1910
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 4: You mean?

1911
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

1912
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Do not think racist or insensitive about that?

1913
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: That was a compliment Iraqian?

1914
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry, I mean you say Tomato, I say Sadam.

1915
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: Thank you, George Bush?

1916
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, very good?

1917
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: Second category?

1918
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, for second category are favorites here on the card,

1919
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 2: he is a favorite, although surprisingly I didn't see him

1920
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 2: as a substantial favorite even with the late opponents switch.

1921
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 2: So it comes in just under our proposed limits for me.

1922
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Jim Miller over Jesse Butler.

1923
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 2: Jesse Butler fighting from the Fury FC promotion. Good fighter, certainly,

1924
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 2: thirty one years of age, hasn't fought since I think

1925
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 2: February of this year, so it was coming off the

1926
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 2: couch a little bit here though I'm sure he's been

1927
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 2: in the gym. Please don't mist understand me. You know,

1928
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 2: these do two aren't so far apart. Like Jim Miller

1929
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 2: is barely in the UFC right, Like he's still getting

1930
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 2: some decent wins, but he is so close to the

1931
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 2: end of his career it's not even funny. In fact,

1932
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 2: we've talked about it. If he gets this wins, he'll

1933
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 2: be the first one to twenty five wins in the UFC.

1934
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: It takes a long time to get there, so Jesse

1935
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 2: Butler could get it done. But I just feel like

1936
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 2: short notice blah blah blah, Jim Miller's crafty. Still give

1937
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 2: me Jim Miller for the win.

1938
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's go with my favorite, Luke. I'm gonna

1939
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: go to the biggest combat sports event of this weekend

1940
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 3: over in Poland. How about KSW Coliseum Ja.

1941
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about it at all.

1942
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 3: It goes down in a stadium tomorrow. They're calling it

1943
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 3: one of the two biggest combat sports events in Polish history.

1944
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 3: And Mary use Padjanowski is your minus two to twenty

1945
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 3: five favorite. Against former boxing heavyweight title contender Artur Spilka,

1946
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 3: who you may remember they peeled off the canvas after

1947
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 3: Deontay Wilder. I have always respected Spilka. He comes to fight, Luke,

1948
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 3: He's been in some good ones. He's gone all in

1949
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 3: and gotten taken all out in this one. Uh, he's

1950
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: transitioning to MMA. Dude, Poosha could take this guy down

1951
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 3: and wrestle up minus two twenty five er and give

1952
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 3: me those odds. Yeah, I'm gonna take Poosha as as

1953
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 3: the close favorite here, but he's gonna get it done

1954
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 3: in front of this crowd.

1955
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: Luke, you know it all right for my underdog pick

1956
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: this one I didn't feel was too hard for me

1957
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 2: to go with. I'm gonna go with Andre Arlovsky. He's

1958
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: a slight underdog at plus one fifteen according to our

1959
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 2: friends at Caesar's to Dantell Mays's minus one thirty five. Yeah,

1960
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 2: I like Arlovsky in this one. I've not been super

1961
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: blown away by May's. I know he's really worked there,

1962
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: getting back and making a name for himself in this division.

1963
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 2: And you know he's had some tough fights obviously against

1964
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 2: Gon and some other folks. But Arlovsky's kind of way

1965
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: to slow the fight down, work behind the jab, keep

1966
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: it moving, and kind of, you know, really work at

1967
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: his pace has been very effective against a certain quality

1968
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 2: of heavyweight, which I think Mays probably falls into. I

1969
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 2: like Arlovsky to upset.

1970
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, my underdog is gonna go to the

1971
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: UFC card the women's strawweight division. Who would have saw

1972
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 3: that coming? How about Ginu Fry, Luke, a plus one

1973
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 3: fifteen underdog against Alas Red Look. Fry fights hard, Luke,

1974
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 3: She's she's she's up there in age. She and tends

1975
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 3: to be fodder for the elite, but then we'll bounce back.

1976
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 3: And he had a couple wins against moderate competition, but

1977
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: she's tough as nails. When she does go up there

1978
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 3: against the elite, I think she gets by a leash.

1979
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 3: Read right here, Luke, I'm not. I don't think I

1980
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 3: could be convinced otherwise. Give me a strawweight win to

1981
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 3: come back here on the plus money.

1982
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: All right for my over underpick, I'm going to take

1983
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 2: the over. So the distance on Elliott versus Alta Morano,

1984
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 2: which of course is going to be on this UFC card.

1985
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 2: Tim Elliott coming back I actually feel like Elliott is better,

1986
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 2: but with all the weird ass things going on in

1987
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 2: his life, one doesn't really know. I feel like these

1988
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 2: two are going to have a bit of a back

1989
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 2: and forth. Al To Morano's pretty good but hasn't quite

1990
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: fought anyone the level of Elliott, so it's a bit

1991
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: of a coming and going scenario with one guy still

1992
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 2: being a little bit better but compromised. It just seems

1993
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 2: to me like also when you just look at their

1994
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,639
Speaker 2: individual styles, scramble heavy can do a lot of work,

1995
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 2: but not necessarily devastating finishers. To me, it could be

1996
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 2: a decent one to think that goes the distance. So

1997
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: that's what I've done, all right.

1998
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: The last time we saw a big divorce comeback was

1999
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 3: Mackenzie Deurn Luke great, So we'll see what happens here

2000
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 3: for Tim that regard my over I'm sorry, yeah, my

2001
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 3: over under Luke. I don't know if this surprises you,

2002
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take a chance here on a feeling.

2003
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 3: Clorisia Shields is back to defend all four of her

2004
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 3: women's middleweight undisputed titles on de Zonne in Detroit. She's

2005
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 3: from Flint, but this is somewhat of a homecoming bout there, Luke.

2006
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 3: She was supposed to take on Franchawn Cruz Desern in

2007
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 3: a rematch of what was Cruise Desern's pro debut, also

2008
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 3: Clorista Shield's pro debut, and Cruise Desern has gone on

2009
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 3: to win a world title since then and be a

2010
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 3: very good fighter, so this rematch was sort of inevitable.

2011
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 3: But Cruse Desern popped for peds and there's sort of

2012
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 3: a weird story mixed with it. After the Vada test

2013
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 3: where she's blaming on medication, she applied to her animals

2014
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 3: that was banned and got I guess into her skin, Luke,

2015
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 3: it's all weird, but they got a late minute opponent here,

2016
01:37:55,120 --> 01:38:00,839
Speaker 3: Maricela Cornejo. I'm gonna take the under even though Clarissa

2017
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 3: Shield only has two knockouts in her career and is

2018
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 3: often very much handcuffed by the women's boxing ten rounds

2019
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 3: two minute rounds set up, and I think it robs

2020
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,880
Speaker 3: her of more stoppages that would make her seem even

2021
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 3: more dominant than she is. But Clarissa might be the

2022
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 3: pomp for Palm Best at the moment, and certainly in

2023
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 3: competition for the greatest of all time. When we've seen

2024
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 3: her against the very toughest opponent she could they could

2025
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 3: find her, she still finds ways to look great and

2026
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 3: be dominant, like she did against Christina Hammer or in

2027
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 3: that fight against Vanna Marshall. What's probably the tough a

2028
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 3: is a pro career man. She found ways to get

2029
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 3: it done. They're just not on any level that's comparable

2030
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Maricella Cornejo, who's thirty six years old. She's done some

2031
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 3: modeling in the past, but I believe she's got a

2032
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: fighting spirit and she's bringing the whole Mexican angle here.

2033
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 3: But look, I had the chance to call one of

2034
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 3: her fights back on that NBC Sports series a couple

2035
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 3: of years ago. She's owned three in title fights. When

2036
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 3: she stepped up on a level. Even though she's got

2037
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 3: a size advantage here over Claria Shields, she's just more

2038
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 3: of a defensive boxer with a jab on the outside,

2039
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to keep up with Shields's output.

2040
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 3: And when you actually look at the level of competition

2041
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 3: that Cornejo has beaten, she beaten zero to one fighter

2042
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 3: last year or this year. The year before, she beat

2043
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 3: a seventeen and nineteen fighter. The year before, she beat

2044
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 3: a two and two fighter. Anytime she stepped up, she's lost.

2045
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 3: The best win of her career was against Aaron Tulfil,

2046
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,639
Speaker 3: who was coming off a thirteen year retirement. For that fight,

2047
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 3: everyone else she's fought and beat is like two and

2048
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: zero or making their pro debut. She's a good fighter.

2049
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be great to beat Clarissa. No

2050
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 3: one's predicting that. Clarissa's minus five thousand a favorite. I

2051
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 3: think she actually gets the stoppage here. I think she's

2052
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: gonna overwhelm Cornejo because they're just not on the same level.

2053
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: And I think Chloris is in a very good spot

2054
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 3: mentally right now. I don't know if you've watched any

2055
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: of her interviews, but she's very happy, very confident. She's

2056
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 3: changed up her looking hair. Luca give her a lot

2057
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 3: of congrats on that, and she just like I've watched

2058
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 3: the interview with Ariel, she's she's gonna come out in

2059
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 3: this homecoming and put it on. I think this is

2060
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 3: the right setup for her to get a stoppage in

2061
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 3: the dominant doing so, so I'm taking the under on

2062
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 3: his own.

2063
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, So last but not least

2064
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: we have KO or sub. This one is easy for me.

2065
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Karine Silva subbing Kaitlyn Susa. Silva a

2066
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: pretty decent submission threat. That's how she gets a fair

2067
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 2: number of her wins. She is heavily favored to win

2068
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 2: no matter what I think, the difference in the ability

2069
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: is going to showup pretty quickly. Give me Silva by

2070
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: sub All.

2071
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 3: Right, Luke, I don't know if you checked out the research,

2072
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 3: but I picked the same fight and picked by sub.

2073
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 2: Did you?

2074
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 4: Ah?

2075
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 2: Jesus? All right? Do I have to change? God? Damn it?

2076
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 3: Well, you can use your champions advantage and make me change, Luke.

2077
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 3: I mean if I can change, they can change, right,

2078
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 3: So what do you want to do?

2079
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry I did not see that. You're right,

2080
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 2: My bad fucking God.

2081
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if we should blame God

2082
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: for this one, Luke, it seems like.

2083
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 2: We're not blaming. I'm not blaming. I'm just exclaiming to

2084
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 2: the universe. Okay, let me ask you a question. If

2085
01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: I pick someone because it's only KAO or what if

2086
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: someone wins by like a clear TKO, not like a

2087
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 2: clean KO.

2088
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,919
Speaker 3: Yeah? T ko Ko or retired is all a stoppage

2089
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 3: win that counts as an.

2090
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I'll take on the fly. I'll take

2091
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Jamie Malarkey over Naimov this show.

2092
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 3: Well, look, just to remind you of the rules, you're

2093
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 3: not picking who's gonna win, You're picking the stipulation of

2094
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 3: how the fight.

2095
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 2: Is right by t KO, We'll take via t k O.

2096
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, BC, I apology.

2097
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 3: No problem, okay. Bet in the books, we'll see whose

2098
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 3: concert is going to ruin the other person's time. I

2099
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 3: wish this ended in time so we can go to

2100
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 3: a Dead and Company show, Luke, But they're on the

2101
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 3: they're on the final tour right now. Shout out to otel.

2102
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: They're they're tearing it up out there, and I know

2103
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 3: you don't care, but there we go. We close Luke

2104
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 3: with a fan submitted effort. Here we call it, uh

2105
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 3: what we call it the email address you could send

2106
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 3: it to, It's morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Yeah,

2107
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 3: Mikey Morms is on the other end of that rabbit hole.

2108
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 3: But look, we're willing to stand trial every Friday. We

2109
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 3: may have said something absolutely incorrect or stupid or insensitive

2110
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: or maybe we're just assholes. But here's your chance to

2111
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 3: dunk on us. But you better bring receipts and you

2112
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 3: better come original. This one's called dead wrong, ready for

2113
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 3: some angry male viewers. Luke always all right, let's go

2114
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 3: to David A. Is that David Appleton? He says, Hi, guys.

2115
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Speaker 3: On last week's have you seen the ship? Brian showed

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01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 3: us former German national soccer coach Joaquim low lou Lau.

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01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: They say, YURGI love I mean, but you know I

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01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:33,480
Speaker 2: don't speak German.

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01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 3: So indulging in disgusting private hygiene. Luke, ever, the phony

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01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 3: soccer fan and.

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01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 2: Always get them.

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01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 3: And always desperate to show us as foreign pronunciation skills, interjected,

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01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 3: I think it's pronounced Jurgen. How the fuck can even

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01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 3: the matt old degenerate vape sucker get that sound out

2125
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,440
Speaker 3: of those letters? Luke was visibly confusing him with Liverpool's

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01:42:59,479 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 3: German Man.

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01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,759
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't Jurgen klop No, I'm not. I'm not convinced.

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01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm not confusing him with the Jurgen klop No.

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01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 3: I'm not to be fair. In Brazil they pronounced it

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01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 3: Naldo Sonya. He wasn't far off. Keep up the shoddy,

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01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 3: unprofessional but entertaining work boys O g RSD was absolute genius.

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01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 3: David Appy Appleton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't speak German. I don't speak German,

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't watch Bundesliga and I don't speak German.

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01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, is Bundesliga as racist as you claim? La

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01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 3: Liga is or whatever? The series?

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01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 2: Well, La Liga is pretty bad. They've been having a

2138
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 2: scandal recently, but the SIII is the real, historically, very

2139
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: very bad one.

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01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, speaking of the only soccer I care about,

2141
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 3: did you see the ted Lasso season three finale?

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01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Confession time, I've never seen a single episode of ted Lasso,

2143
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:50,879
Speaker 2: not one. Wow.

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01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 3: That makes sense given his abject positivity and your dark ways, Luke,

2145
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,720
Speaker 3: but I think you'd enjoy it if you did. And

2146
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 3: the I have to say the the finale, which maybe

2147
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 3: the finale of the show in general likely is uh.

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01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 3: It's one of the best final episodes of any show ever, Luke.

2149
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 3: I laughed, I cried. I I you know, it was great.

2150
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was Luke, it was great. Tavy, it

2151
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:15,759
Speaker 3: was great.

2152
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 2: Sweet.

2153
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: I wish you cared about things that other people do,

2154
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You're such an independent, you know, Roamer,

2155
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 3: you're such a Yeah, you're such a piece of shit, Luke.

2156
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 3: Let's go over to Elliott. He says on the RSD

2157
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 3: one point oh, which needs to be renamed skitsing bitch. Whoa,

2158
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,960
Speaker 3: it's not a bit Elliott from England. Look, I'll admit

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01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't for changing keeping the RSD name and just

2160
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,480
Speaker 3: throwing it on the interview series, although I think it

2161
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 3: it works, It does work. But if we're gonna still

2162
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,720
Speaker 3: do RSD one point oh because we like it, we

2163
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 3: know you love it, and you know sometimes we just

2164
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: roll the dice on our own careers, we do have

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01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,759
Speaker 3: to change the name skits and bits, says l from England.

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01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Is that do we just name it? We do? We

2167
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: knighte you right now as that's the that's the news.

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01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: We might have to steal that. That's pretty good.

2169
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 3: Wow, all right Elliott, all right, here's what he says.

2170
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 3: Luke says that in Blackhawk Down they go inside a

2171
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 3: guy's arm to get a vein. They actually go into

2172
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 3: the thigh to clamp an artery. Might be a little pedantic,

2173
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 3: but along with Luke, I love this film and had

2174
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 3: to dead wrong him not going to abuse you.

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01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Guys.

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01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 3: Just want to say thanks for all the content from

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01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 3: an audio only listener who watches as you have you

2178
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:33,759
Speaker 3: seen this shit and a London live show attendee. Lots

2179
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:39,799
Speaker 3: of love from Norfolk. It's Elliott, not Norfolk, the Norfolk England.

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01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 2: I think.

2181
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Elliott. Look, do you accept that

2182
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 3: you take the ellifance?

2183
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, he's right, he's right.

2184
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's go over to dazz Da double z uh.

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 3: He's from Hawaii. Aloha, Luke and BC. At four fifteen

2186
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 3: of episode four four seven BC reference Stem and their

2187
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 3: song became a UFC fame. It's intro uh. Unfortunately BC

2188
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 3: called it bring the Pain. Oh Ship, you're right, BC.

2189
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 3: Your casual is showing. As any long time UFC fan knows.

2190
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,639
Speaker 3: The song is called face the Pain. Shouts to Stem,

2191
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 3: face the plane, Face the Pain and the just bleed guy.

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01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 3: Great content, especially the RSDs. Keep up the good work.

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01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 3: It's it's dazz mahallow, Luke, I will take that out.

2194
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:25,519
Speaker 3: It is face the Pain, but it brings pain to you,

2195
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 3: so that's why I like you.

2196
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 2: It's a terrible song.

2197
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is, dude. I have that CD that

2198
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:33,880
Speaker 3: the MM a guys gave me in England. Luke, you

2199
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 3: know that that is? I mean, I gotta just this

2200
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,480
Speaker 3: is I mean, this is great, right, I mean just

2201
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:43,719
Speaker 3: just look at how awesome this is, Luke, Ultimate Volume

2202
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,480
Speaker 3: two right, Yeah.

2203
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 2: We look, we got show me that, show me the

2204
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 2: track list we got Hate Breed.

2205
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:51,520
Speaker 3: Can you read it?

2206
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I do like Hate Breed, but

2207
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 2: I can't read it. Yeah.

2208
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,759
Speaker 3: American Head Chang Charges a Band, Shadows, Fall, Sepultura, Fear Factory,

2209
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:10,759
Speaker 3: ice Pick, Kill Switch, Engage, Yeah, Engage, UFO, Black Flood

2210
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 3: Diesel and Scars of Life. Yeah, that sounds like.

2211
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 2: Scars of Life and Black Flood Diesel. I think those

2212
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 2: were two like UFC signed bands like the band like

2213
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 2: the UFC had a record label back then, and they

2214
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 2: signed those two bands to that label.

2215
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 3: So and then they put out that CD. Wow, that

2216
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 3: sounds like m m A Volume two. Thats great. Yeah,

2217
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 3: that's sounds like absolute shit. Thank you, Daz, thank you.

2218
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 3: He didn't even dunk on us, Luke. He was very polite.

2219
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 3: I respect that. Finally we've got one more for yet.

2220
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 3: This one's from in Delicia. Delete. Look if someone is

2221
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 3: if something is spelled n d I N D I

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01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 3: L I s A. How do you say that?

2223
01:47:56,120 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? In Delicia, I guess I don't know.

2224
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:01,559
Speaker 3: And and Dealicia sounds sounds like and Luke, we'll find out, Hi,

2225
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Brian Luke. Luke thought I should emerge from the shadows

2226
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 3: to proudly declare myself as a black female fan of

2227
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 3: Morning Combat.

2228
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 2: What lies? I don't believe it.

2229
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 3: I've been following you both since the MMA beat days

2230
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 3: and well before that. Your show is fantastic and has

2231
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 3: helped my boyfriend Ben ease into the sport of MMA

2232
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 3: because of your insightful analysis and fun banter. Ben identifies

2233
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 3: with you both. One he's white. Two he's grouchy like

2234
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 3: Luke in the mornings and sometimes eats gas station food

2235
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,240
Speaker 3: like Brian. Despite it all, he's great and I'm happy

2236
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 3: to have someone to enjoy the sport with here in

2237
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 3: South Africa. Keep up the amazing work. Attacks are pictures

2238
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,440
Speaker 3: of your lone black fan. It's just like seeing Bigfoot.

2239
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 3: I know, PS Luke, Propa Gandhi isn't a SKA band?

2240
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 3: Hashtag dead wrong and Pps Brian, we need the nineties counterback.

2241
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, Mikey, you need to get up on some

2242
01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 3: nineties culture here, so you can work that button. But look,

2243
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 3: here's here's a picture of and de Lisa sparring your thoughts.

2244
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 2: That's good. I mean, okay, we got one. We got one. Uh,

2245
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 2: I'm blown away. I don't even I don't know if

2246
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 2: I believe it. I honestly don't know if I believe it.

2247
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 3: Ah. What a happy, beautiful couple there in South Africa.

2248
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 3: I just want them to know that I ain't gonna

2249
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 3: play sun City either, Luke right, unless unless you want

2250
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 3: to do like an MK live show there.

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01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,760
Speaker 2: And you know, dude, my neighbor was telling me. I

2252
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 2: told Mikey this before the show. My neighbor they have

2253
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 2: my neighbors have two kids that are like slightly older

2254
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 2: and slightly younger than my daughter, and so after school

2255
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: they all kind of play together on the block, which

2256
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 2: is pretty great. And she was saying, she was like,

2257
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 2: you came up in conversation at soccer practice today and

2258
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:47,600
Speaker 2: I was like, how did I come up in like

2259
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 2: your soccer team? Socker. She was saying that she was

2260
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 2: talking to one of her other moms who was at

2261
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 2: soccer practice, like I don't know any of these people,

2262
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 2: Like I don't know this at all. And she was

2263
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 2: saying that how this other woman, who lives in a

2264
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,759
Speaker 2: different part the town was complained that all her neighbors

2265
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 2: were lawyers, which that does sound very DC in certain ways.

2266
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 2: But my neighbor was saying, Oh, my neighbors are nothing

2267
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:10,599
Speaker 2: like that. Like one of my neighbors on the other

2268
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 2: side of this one works as like the head of

2269
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,400
Speaker 2: curation at the Smithsonian, and then on she's like, oh yeah,

2270
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 2: my other side, my neighbor is like this MMA commentator.

2271
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 2: She doesn't know what to call me, you know. And

2272
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 2: the other lady, who apparently was a African American lady

2273
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 2: in her mid fifties, goes, yeah, it goes goes ready

2274
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 2: for this, goes which commentator, and she goes, oh yeah,

2275
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. And apparently this is how this is how

2276
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 2: my neighbor described it. That woman let out a squeal.

2277
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:42,839
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe that I was this person's neighbor, a African

2278
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 2: American lady in her fifties.

2279
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

2280
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,840
Speaker 2: So we got two of them. We got one in

2281
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 2: South Africa and we've got one here in d C. Hey.

2282
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 2: That's a start. That's a start.

2283
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 3: Would you declare her as a kugar, Luker, is that insensitive?

2284
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 3: After such?

2285
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 2: I didn't, I didn't see her. I couldn't possibly say,

2286
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 2: but wow, I was blown away by that. Wow.

2287
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 3: We've got white male viewers, and a lot of them, Luke,

2288
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 3: but we've got the We've got others too, and I

2289
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 3: appreciate them all. Thank you Morning Coombat at gmail dot

2290
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 3: com for your dead wrongs, for your Wednesday's fan subs,

2291
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 3: and boy, Luke, we're gonna have a lot of shit

2292
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 3: on Monday, so I look forward to that one right there. Yeah,

2293
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 3: all right, all right, yeah, all right, Luke, that's all

2294
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 3: we got this. How would you grade this show too long?

2295
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 2: But you know that's I want to be clear about this.

2296
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 2: That's not me like trying to change the show. There's

2297
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,040
Speaker 2: been like a group wide agreement that we need to

2298
01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 2: make shorter shows, and they're harder to do than you

2299
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 2: would think.

2300
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 3: But like like Rocco Safreddie, I've just learned to not

2301
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 3: get insulted when you comment on the link.

2302
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2303
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, it's just that's just the way

2304
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 3: it is, right. You know. Bruce Hornsby knew it when

2305
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 3: he was playing pickup loops with you in Williamsburg, Luke,

2306
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:50,960
Speaker 3: things will never be the same after Roco invades that. Yeah,

2307
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 3: wow right, how gross? How gross? Can we end this show?

2308
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 3: That's really the question. Okay, for the great producer Michael

2309
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,640
Speaker 3: Moore Mile of CBS Sports and all the companies that

2310
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 3: back us into all you great great fans and listeners

2311
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 3: and even the audio only weirdos, we love you, We

2312
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 3: thank you. Have a great weekend. Enjoy the fights, Luke,

2313
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 3: any weekend plans, that's what the people want to know.

2314
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna take two key to the pool.

2315
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:20,639
Speaker 3: Be fun. Oh yeah, that's great, that is fantastic. All right, Uh,

2316
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 3: take care of yourself, guys, keep your head above water.

2317
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 3: Tip your waitresses. Uh something about host, Luke, but you

2318
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 3: know that they ain't never gonna be loyal, right, never

2319
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 3: cut it out? All right? I mean, look, you know

2320
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 3: you gotta give Uncle Joey credit for what happened in

2321
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 3: that movie theater, right, you do have to kind of

2322
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 3: give right, you know, you.

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 2: Know he got some he got some copys of that.

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Speaker 3: Day, didn't he knew that age old equation that crazy

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Speaker 3: is crazy, but it's also hot sometimes, right, Luke. Yeah,