WEBVTT - You've Got Mail: One More Dive into the Ridiculous Crime Mailbag

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeart Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Saren.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, he's my favorite person who I do this show with?

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth Duntan.

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<v Speaker 2>How I'm good, I'm good. Listen. You know what's ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? You know about my cinematic favorite route, Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, I put emphasis on that my favorite road.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like it's continental because it's it's it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more than American. This is my love is it's expanding.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why. It's much like the Mission Impossible series,

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<v Speaker 3>it's international, Like like, why, Liza, why do I love

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise? Like I've told you before about the running

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. I told you about how he had.

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<v Speaker 2>Like pumps his little arms.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah run, why did you talk about that? Was you

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<v Speaker 3>talking about that? He has a he had a fame

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<v Speaker 3>that I told you about the knee injury. And if

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't for the knee injury wrestling, he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>become a multi billion dollar movie star. Yeah. Think of

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<v Speaker 3>all the all those jobs he created because of that

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<v Speaker 3>one knee injury. Well, I've got another thing for you, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is ridiculous. Tom Cruise, my cinematic guy. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a scientologist now, you know, right, But he didn't always

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<v Speaker 3>want to be a scientologist. But he and I have

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<v Speaker 3>a commonality. We both thought about becoming Catholic priests.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he did, did he?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And you did? I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about joining the Seminary when I was a Jesuit.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I thought about it. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>could totally be a priest. I could rocket to sit

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<v Speaker 3>there and do like math and like you know, sit

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<v Speaker 3>there in the castle. They're like, you don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't be a monk. I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>be like like my man Meerson. No, okay, probably could.

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<v Speaker 2>There's probably some monk positions open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's very few of them, though I think the

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<v Speaker 3>old guys would lock him down. Anyway. My point was

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<v Speaker 3>he got still time, I got knocked off my path.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how Tom Cruise got knocked off his path?

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<v Speaker 2>El Ron Hubbard hit him with a volcano.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he was at the Seminary. He took a step

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<v Speaker 3>further night did he actually getting like he signed up?

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<v Speaker 3>Was at the Seminary. But then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>like his Thomas Cruise just jumped out and He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta run, and he ran to a bar and

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<v Speaker 3>he got drunk, and he got some drunk with his

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<v Speaker 3>friends that when the priests saw him, they're like, this

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<v Speaker 3>life aid for y'all. And then you got kicked out

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<v Speaker 3>of the seminary and he became Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, So we had all these opportunities to not have Tom.

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<v Speaker 3>Cruise exactly like the guy who invented the saxophone. He

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<v Speaker 3>could not be stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous, right, that is? You know what else is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>The state of our email inbox? Oh yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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<v Speaker 2>and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I say something up for up Top? Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I normal I would say you damn right, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have to correct myself. I'm gonna use this moment to

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<v Speaker 3>say I said you're my favorite person I do this

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<v Speaker 3>show with, But really I do it with two people,

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<v Speaker 3>you would, producer d I'm sorry, Producer. I didn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>to like step on you. I met co host, but

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<v Speaker 3>my brain goes so quick. I'm like, I do the

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<v Speaker 3>show with mostly I'm at the talking part, but producer,

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<v Speaker 3>do you do the talking? So forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're my favorite person who talks. That's not me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like that I hear in my headset.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if listeners, if you hear a bleep earlier over person,

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<v Speaker 4>is that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So please forget me. Producer.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to be like a parent. I love you

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<v Speaker 2>both equally. Yeah, I know I'm terrible to navigate this.

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<v Speaker 3>I step on myself all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We always ask people to send us emails. We do,

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<v Speaker 2>and we read those emails. Yes we do, but no

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<v Speaker 2>one answers those emails.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think it has a send function.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think so we broke it. I snapped that

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<v Speaker 2>button off. We do read them, though, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>have proof of that today, do you. I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to go through the mail bag from the last few months.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually brought a bag. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this this is from after the point where one

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<v Speaker 2>of our interns, Breakston, accidentally deleted all the messages.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got rid of him so I can name

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<v Speaker 2>names now. He was the worst Breakston. He was like

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<v Speaker 2>a version of that classic Reddit post about that kid Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you aren't familiar, google Reddit classic Kevin and

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<v Speaker 2>then prepare to laugh so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>You far.

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Oh yeah, yeah this up.

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>I like his parents didn't know what school he went to,

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<v Speaker 2>and he went to a public school and they tried

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<v Speaker 2>to pay tuition.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So Breakston was almost like that. I made a cake

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<v Speaker 2>one time to bring in for everyone here in HQ.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember this? I think I do, And I

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<v Speaker 2>put it on the counter in the kitchen and it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, so cute, all these decorations case and Breakston

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<v Speaker 2>put his grubby hands right into it and pulled a

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<v Speaker 2>chunk out of center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, he said he want the best part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then we couldn't We couldn't let him answer

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<v Speaker 2>the phones here because he always said, no, I hate

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<v Speaker 2>that his hands like they'd be like, hello, oh can

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<v Speaker 2>I speak with Dave Coustin. No, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Lake Breakston, stop that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we were free of him. And now I've been

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<v Speaker 2>forwarded most of the messages that we were able to recover,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God, I know. And here we are. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>got some good messages and some good shorties that people

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<v Speaker 2>have suggested. You know, the crimes that are great and ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't have enough information to make a full exive,

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<v Speaker 2>so like I can vamp for time, but not that much.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start with a message.

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<v Speaker 3>Please.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from Jade in Manchester, UK.

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<v Speaker 3>I know where that is. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just listening to your ice cream van episode

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<v Speaker 2>and it reminded me of a story my father used

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<v Speaker 2>to tell when we were kids in the early nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Living in Manchester, the local ice cream van was very

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<v Speaker 2>popular with the parents. As well as selling ice cream

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<v Speaker 2>for the kiddies, the ice cream man also had an

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<v Speaker 2>illegal side gig of selling slash renting bootleg movie videos.

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<v Speaker 2>My father told me the ice cream man would be

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<v Speaker 2>one of the first people in line whenever a new

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<v Speaker 2>movie came out at the cinema. He would then record

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<v Speaker 2>the latest blockbuster Ghostbusters Indiana jonesleg make copies and sell

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<v Speaker 2>them out of the van.

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<v Speaker 3>Got bootlegs.

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<v Speaker 2>They were always really dodgy and would have people coughing

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<v Speaker 2>and standing up to to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>In them in the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the cheapest and quickest way for a family

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<v Speaker 2>of five to see a new movie. Years later, my

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<v Speaker 2>father also told me the ice cream man would also

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<v Speaker 2>rent bootleg poorn videos to the dads, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>never told how he got hold of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, with the camera, what do you know that

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<v Speaker 3>walking back and forth Jade was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So bootleg movies, I think they're the best. And to

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<v Speaker 2>buy them from an ice cream from Manchester. Perfect. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's stay over on that side of the pond.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a brit who pulled a pretty ridiculous crime.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was recommended to us by Soren r Over

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK. He just said, he said he was

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<v Speaker 2>just from the UK General Ballpark. He didn't give us

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<v Speaker 2>a county or city or what have you, just UK.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Soren, he tipped us off to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Michael Fagan, a cursed name if ever there was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born. Michael Fagan was born in Clerkenwell, London,

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty eight. His dad was a safe cracker,

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<v Speaker 2>like a cracker of safe, not a non dangerous cracker,

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<v Speaker 2>and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Was when he was thirty four MIAs.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was thirty four, Michael broke into a place,

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<v Speaker 2>not just a place, he broke into a palace. A palace,

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<v Speaker 2>oh Buckingham palace, Oh and he did it twice in

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<v Speaker 2>one month. What Yeah, so it check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>early nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty two, Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>And it should be noted that security was pretty tight there,

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<v Speaker 2>or it should have been, because when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about nineteen eighty two. I've been reading a

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<v Speaker 2>really great book that I was tipped off to by

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<v Speaker 2>a number one badass journalist and all around hilarious and

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant guy, Zach Budrick. Yeah, he's an environmental reporter for

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<v Speaker 2>The Hill. He referenced a book called There Will Be Fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the Ivory plot to blow up Margaret Thatcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic book, really lucky. Yeah, I recommend it. I'm loving

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway. So this nineteen eighty two, we're in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the troubles the Buckingham Palace. You know, break in.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think that, like the rest of the country, the

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<v Speaker 2>place would be a little long guard. You think they did, though,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they had revolving spikes and barbed wire at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the wall around the outside. Really, that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't stop Michael. The first time he gained entry by

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<v Speaker 2>shimmying up a drain pipe and popping in a window.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how do you get over the fence?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And he poked around for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>He had legitimately he had cheese and crackers. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>went and got himself some cheese and crackers. Someone saw

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<v Speaker 2>him and called security and so he hid and was undetected.

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<v Speaker 3>He just broke in and had a snack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just wandered around. He gets away from a snack, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And he was trying to get out, and he set

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<v Speaker 2>the alarm off and then security thought it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a glitch in the system, so they ignored it. They

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<v Speaker 2>just shut it off. So we wound up hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more and then.

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<v Speaker 3>He left, took a little nap.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Fast forward a few days, He's hanging out at

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<v Speaker 2>his local Irish pub and it comes on TV that

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<v Speaker 2>the Queen fellow. Yeah, well, Sagan, I know I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>making any guesses. It comes on TV that the Queen

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<v Speaker 2>is staying at Buckingham Palace over the weekend. The flag

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<v Speaker 2>is up over the palace. You can guess how this

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<v Speaker 2>fun fact went down at the pub. Yes, so Michael

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<v Speaker 2>bets these pals that he's drinking with five pounds each

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<v Speaker 2>that he could get into the Queen's bedroom that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they know he's done this?

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<v Speaker 2>No, So seven people at the bar and each of

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<v Speaker 2>them gave him five pounds. They're like, you're on, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no kidding. So he gets to Buckingham Palace. He's like, later,

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<v Speaker 2>chaps off he goes. He gets to Buckingham Palace, he

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<v Speaker 2>climbs that twenty foot spiked wall. And this time he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just get into like the public area of the

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<v Speaker 2>palace where he had done before. He went into the

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<v Speaker 2>area where the royal family actually lived and ate and

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<v Speaker 2>slept and just like lazed about. Wow, he got into

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<v Speaker 2>the royal apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to their like chambers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So he grabs a bottle of wine, starts strolling around.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to Prince Andrew's place. Go on.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was said to be the biggest breach of

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<v Speaker 2>security in the modern history of the English world.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe that this would be massively embarrassing for them.

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<v Speaker 2>He did the old drain piped a window trick again,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he made it onto the balcony of a

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom and there's there are more than two hundred bedrooms

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<v Speaker 2>in Buckingham House with the Queen. Well, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>one and two hundred chance of selecting a very special bedroom. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and he hit the jackpie. He got onto the balcony

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<v Speaker 2>of Queen a in this bedroom. He goes in. Queen's

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<v Speaker 2>asleep and according to him, like she sleeps sitting up

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<v Speaker 2>in a four poster bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Get out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Her eyes. Her eyes are covered with a sleeping mask,

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<v Speaker 2>so she may have her eyes open like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Horse, Elizabeth. I am still stuck with her sleeping sitting up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe she broke her collar bone.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but what So he comes in and there's the

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<v Speaker 3>Queen and she's sitting up like.

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<v Speaker 2>With a sleeping mass. Think she was snoring, but probably,

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<v Speaker 2>but she couldn't see who he was. She just hears something.

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<v Speaker 2>She does hear him though, Yeah, So he creeps over

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<v Speaker 2>to the bed and he sits at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She she wakes up. She's like, is that you Philip Way?

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<v Speaker 2>And so he like clears his throat and he does

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<v Speaker 2>this super posh English accent. Uh huh, No, it's me Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>And so she just freaks out.

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<v Speaker 3>She's just like, why put on the name because.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun and cups So he like she rips off

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<v Speaker 2>hersking was like ah, she's positive as curtains for her.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, she's got an irishman sitting on the end

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<v Speaker 3>of her bread in nineteen eighty two.

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<v Speaker 2>He's full of beard. He has love in his heart,

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<v Speaker 2>agape love.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's like a bed warmer.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to soothe her soul. He says to her,

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<v Speaker 2>quote relaxed, sister, you don't have to worry. I'm Irish.

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<v Speaker 2>Like at this point she's probably just peeing. Like that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the punchline of the century. So she says,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you want from me?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, negotiate?

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<v Speaker 2>She says, all I want is a kiss?

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<v Speaker 3>What? Yeah, he wants a kiss from the queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yikes?

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<v Speaker 3>Why peopleways want to kiss from queen?

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<v Speaker 2>What does she say?

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<v Speaker 3>What did she say?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you in like a thick Brooklyn accent,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, do you know who I am? I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen of England.

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<v Speaker 3>She name checks herself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, p s yeah, I'm the queen. Like

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<v Speaker 2>do you have the right room where you're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know totally, I I own everything here, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That right Ann's places down the hall and so he's too.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, quote, I don't care who you are. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Fagan from Ireland and I'm here for a kiss,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I'm one hundred percent sure I'm about to die.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah where he's a kind of an Irish poet, like,

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<v Speaker 3>give me a kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Now He's like, no, kiss a shooter in the post.

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<v Speaker 3>Apocalyptic movie and he's like, oh did the beat?

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<v Speaker 2>So she would say no, and then he'd try to

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<v Speaker 2>convince her, and this went on for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Kidding she can't scream or do anything. She's no bell

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<v Speaker 3>to ring.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there is? She She picks up the phone next

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<v Speaker 2>to the bed. Okay, guns, no one answers for answers,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets impatient. He said, quote, for God's sake, woman,

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<v Speaker 2>would you give me a kiss? And then the queen,

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<v Speaker 2>according to him, said quote, I shouldn't even be massaging

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<v Speaker 2>your back, Like wait, what.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you are you making?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm missing something in this that what I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>does the queen insist on bodyworks on someone? She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even rubbed your back yet. You think I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kiss you anyway? So Michael he told this story

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<v Speaker 2>when he was arrested, but then he took it all

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<v Speaker 2>back into a twenty twelve interview with The Independent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because of course the Queen's not gonna yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he said in that interview that as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>he appeared in the room, she cut out to go

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<v Speaker 2>get help. She called the palace switchboard twice to ask

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<v Speaker 2>for the police, but no one showed up. That part

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<v Speaker 2>it did happen. So she went back to the room,

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<v Speaker 2>used her bedside alarm bell and then no one shows up.

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<v Speaker 3>T which he leaves the bedroom and then comes back.

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<v Speaker 3>God has to come back to the bedroom. She realized

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<v Speaker 3>that's where her alarm is.

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<v Speaker 2>Her like, you know what, I've fallen and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>get yeah, exactly, life alert. So she then runs back

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<v Speaker 2>out in the hall, she sees a maid who's just

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<v Speaker 2>like doo.

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<v Speaker 3>Do do twos. It's like a clapper like clap off.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and so the maid she yells out and the

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<v Speaker 2>maid comes to help her, and the queen and the

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<v Speaker 2>maid usher Michael quote into a nearby pantry on the

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<v Speaker 2>pretext of supplying him with the cigarette. What they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what you need to smoke?

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<v Speaker 3>Total, are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>I got a case of Benson and hedges the roll. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so let's just go on the pantry. There was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be an armed guard outside of her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Door all night long, I would assume.

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<v Speaker 2>But this all happened during a shift change. What, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have. There was this guy, the dooty footman,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Wybrew. He was out walking them corgies when this

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<v Speaker 2>all went down. Uh huh, taking him out for a piddle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets back, he sees this whole messoudn't be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>runs to help. They're pushing Michael into the pantry, but

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<v Speaker 2>he still wants more time with the queen. So why

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<v Speaker 2>Brew he stalls Michael, He's like, quote all right, but

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<v Speaker 2>let her get dressed first. That's what he tells them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're so British about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the footman asked Michael if he wants a drink,

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<v Speaker 2>and Michael says, quote yes, please, I'll have a scotch.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they don't want to embarrass the men, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to. Let's let's get you a smoke and

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<v Speaker 3>a drink.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how Michael tells it.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote, Wow, nobody's swinging. Nobody's like you don't need to

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<v Speaker 3>get here?

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<v Speaker 2>What oh? He would have been Yeah. In in modern time,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway. This is how he tells it.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote the footman came and said, cool, right, you look

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to drink. He took me to the

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<v Speaker 2>Queen's pantry across the landing, where I presume she cooks

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<v Speaker 2>her baked beans and toast and whatever, and takes a

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<v Speaker 2>bottle of famous Grouse from the shelf and pours me

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<v Speaker 2>a glass of whiskey.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hello, J Yeah, I am, I'm so judging.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael told The Independent that he really needed to find

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<v Speaker 2>a bathroom. You know, he'd had a bunch of paints

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the Puppy's been drinking on that one

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<v Speaker 2>long night. But like he said, everything was poorly marked. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I found rooms saying Diana's room, Charles's room. They all

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<v Speaker 2>had names on them. But I couldn't find a door

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<v Speaker 2>which said WC. All I found were some bins with

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<v Speaker 2>quote corky food written on them. I was breaking my

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<v Speaker 2>neck to go to the toilet. What do I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Pee on the carpet? So I had to pee in

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<v Speaker 2>the corky food?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? He's like, I couldn't find an umbrella,

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<v Speaker 3>stand a peon.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally security shows up, then the cops, then more security.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael gets arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally somebody actually shows up like hey, let's get rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the and.

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<v Speaker 2>They gently escored him up. He got sentenced to two

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<v Speaker 2>years in jail, but he only served a few months

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<v Speaker 2>and then they let him out for good behavior. And

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<v Speaker 2>legend has it that the queen sent him a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of letters while he was in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I do not believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that's what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>What Yeah, the actual which is amazed.

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<v Speaker 2>So when he got out, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that they actually had like a real conversation and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe she was like, you know what, I took your

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<v Speaker 3>advice and I thought about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe he influenced all sorts of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's working on trucks, like so maybe like

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<v Speaker 3>they like they were talking about like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was working on this, uh you know lander over

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<v Speaker 3>the other day. Maybe they kissed maybe and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the maid was like make them kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he's Charles's real dad, like you know, a retcon. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets out, he goes back home to dairy

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<v Speaker 2>in Northern Ireland. Years later, he said he didn't regret

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<v Speaker 2>the trespassing.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet not.

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<v Speaker 2>What did he say about this episode in his life?

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<v Speaker 3>I made fifteen pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brought me adversity, but I can laugh about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the main thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So irish, I love that way to go. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Is this what inspired the now disgraced Morrissey to sing?

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<v Speaker 4>So I broke into the palace with a sponge and

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<v Speaker 4>a rusty spanner and the queen is dead?

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't wow, deep pull producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually could be.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like top of mind for me as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you started. I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, apparently this whole episode was depicted in that show

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<v Speaker 2>The Crown, but I don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, yeah, I don't watch The Crown. I'm not really

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<v Speaker 3>a royal. My sister loves the Royals shot on Mags,

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<v Speaker 3>but I personally, you know me, it's all osmotic process

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<v Speaker 3>of like, oh, I've heard about this, I've seen that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, that's not a great story, Thank you, Soren. Yeah, excellent,

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<v Speaker 2>excellent tip. Let's take a break. I'm gonna go pee

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<v Speaker 2>in the corky food and you get a glass of

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<v Speaker 2>scotch and when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Dave, you want to give me a kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>More from the mail bag. Hello, Saren.

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<v Speaker 3>Done pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I peed in the corky food.

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<v Speaker 3>You look relaxed that so I was about to say, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be my new you know, we had what was it,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cincinnati ice cream truck. My other new euphemism is oh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's been peeing in the corky food.

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<v Speaker 3>Uhbeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I got more listener mail and suggestions. I do need

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<v Speaker 2>to note that if you sent something and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it today, and that's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people because we get a lot of mail, well,

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<v Speaker 2>please do not have hurt feelings. I just want that

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Yes, Like you know, we never want to

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<v Speaker 2>slight anyone or ignore them. There's a lot to juggle

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<v Speaker 2>and we're not always very good at it, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever. Definitely and definitely deeply appreciate any emails readers. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, completely, you guys are some funny people.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a note that we got. Hello. First off, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for the podcast. It's my favorite and always gives

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<v Speaker 2>me an interesting story to tell my sister. Second, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a story on my own. It's not too illegal,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, but hopefully it's still interesting. Before the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>my sister, Mom and I visited my grandmother living in Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>We traveled to Moscow and went through a lot of museums,

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<v Speaker 2>one of which was the Diamond Fund, which housed the crowns, scepters,

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<v Speaker 2>and other jewels of the Russian royal families. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing is traveling in Russia as a foreign tourist is

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<v Speaker 2>a different experience than traveling as a Russian tourist. The

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<v Speaker 2>line ticket tickets to see this museum for regular tourists

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<v Speaker 2>was incredibly long outdoors and not even opened the whole

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<v Speaker 2>business day. My mom read about another ticket office specifically

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<v Speaker 2>for foreigners. We found the spot, which was a nice

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<v Speaker 2>indoor office with plenty of empty room, but we had

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<v Speaker 2>to keep up the foreign act. My sister and I

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<v Speaker 2>speak English natively, so we were instructed to approach and

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<v Speaker 2>ask for tickets for all four of us. The woman

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<v Speaker 2>at the front friendly started this process, and then my

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<v Speaker 2>grandma passed her Russian retirement card as she's used to

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<v Speaker 2>in case that gives her a discount, so the jig

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<v Speaker 2>was up. The woman spoke to my mom in Russian

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>with a hushed angry tone. This office is only for foreigners.

0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 2>My mom beckoned to us, replying, they're foreigners. You aren't

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.119
<v Speaker 2>going to separate them from us, are you. Meanwhile, I

0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 2>stood there trying to look clueless, as if I had

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.920
<v Speaker 2>no idea what they were saying, trying to save the act,

0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and thankfully the woman right, the woman sold us the tickets,

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.800
<v Speaker 2>though begrudgingly. I don't think you can really consider this

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.359
<v Speaker 2>a con It wasn't even completely successful, but I sure

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 2>felt like a con artist in the moment. Finally, I

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 2>have a story suggestion. Search up the Morris Worm. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen eighty eight internet virus that shot off ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent of all computers connected to the Internet, and it

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 2>was all because of an accident. Still, its creator was

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<v Speaker 2>credited as the first person to be convicted under the

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. And that's from Alexia RK.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you, Alexia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Alexia, I love a little bit of ticket soft scamming, Like,

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.560
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I support it, I mean, and I really

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.920
<v Speaker 2>love the wall me part of it, like you gotta

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 2>sell the performance. Well done, Alexia. So what's the Morris Worm? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a actually nineteen eighty eight, Elizabeth, Okay, what is

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<v Speaker 3>the Morris worm?

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth, Well, I looked into it, look at me, look

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 2>at me, and I can tell you about it. November two,

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty eight, eight thirty pm. I don't know the times,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. And so this was in the early days

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>of the Internet, as she told us, when it connected

0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 2>colleges and or like military and governments systems. This was

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 2>one year before the quote Worldwide Web was invented. So

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>at this point, again just government research. So you know that,

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:15.159
<v Speaker 2>like Massachusetts Institute of Technology MIT sh yes, So computers

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>on the network started like seizing up, going black on

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 2>this on this fateful day. Quote, we are currently under attack,

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>wrote a concerned student at UC Berkeley in an email

0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>later that night, very dramatic. Six thousand of the sixty

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 2>thousand computers connected to the Internet at that point were hit.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Whoa yeah, and this this wasn't a virus. A virus

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 2>needs software to host on a device. This was a

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 2>computer worm and those can just spread on their own,

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>which is so gross. So I don't know you asked

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 2>me how.

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:48.879
<v Speaker 3>I just really wanted to see your face whatever.

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. You're like, oh, well, it's I

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know. It worms.

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 3>It wormed around mostly and it just works.

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.959
<v Speaker 2>Wah, inch worm, inchworm? How do you do? So it

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't just Berkeley. All the big dogs got hit. I'm

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>talking Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, NASA, University of Chicago,

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, right in your backyard.

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 2>It didn't strike every computer on the network. It only

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<v Speaker 2>hit those that ran a certain version of the is

0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it eunix operating because people might be U, N I

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>X Y, you don't know. It's okay whatever, eunix. But

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.959
<v Speaker 2>it was still enough to wreck shop and it snuck

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>in through an email, and it was designed to stay hidden,

0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:38.120
<v Speaker 2>so it's just worming around. It didn't damage or destroy files.

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 2>It just slowed things down to like molasses speed. And

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind they didn't have the like supercomputer processing

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 2>levels that sure, yeah, definitely, things were already slow, and

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 2>you know they they didn't have like the mainframes and

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>the matrix and the hackathons and whatnot, yes, please talk,

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>so nothing would process or send and the U users

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>were stumped as to like how to find the thing,

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and remove it. Some some places they just went ahead

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 2>and wiped their systems.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 3>On the start fresh new computers.

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 2>They're like, control all, delete, boom everything. Others yeah, others

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>just unplugged from the network and they're like, we can't

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 2>risk this, and they were offline for a week working.

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>It was frustrating, but it was also really expensive. Losses

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:24.879
<v Speaker 2>started out at like one hundred thousand dollars and then

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>went into the millions. Oh really, yeah, I mean because

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>no one could sell anything on eBay. It's terrible. So

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 2>there were those who spent every waking hour trying to

0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>fix it, like, you know, just a lot of coffee,

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>a lot of like hunched over a.

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Screen, computer ratchets.

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 2>Everyone wearing like weird earth tones and oatmeal colors. You

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>know that there were those who, you know, probably like me,

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 2>who wanted to know who was to blame, who's the purp?

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So right after the worm went live, the purp spoke, Yeah,

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 2>but not publicly and not with identification. The hacker had

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>been tinkering with his creation, honing it, like playing around

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and thinking about what a god he would be if

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 2>he were to release this worm. Release the worm, that's

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>what he said. And he released it saren, he released

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 2>what happened? Then he felt really really bad. He felt terrible.

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 3>He's like, why did I do this? It's like, oh,

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm ashamed.

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I am become death destroyer of worlds. He's just, you know,

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the bag of a gida everywhere. He called two friends.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like, hello, Michelle, guess what And he told him

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>what he did. He confessed and he's like, got totally

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.239
<v Speaker 2>out of control. I thought it would be cool and

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>now it's not cool. And he asked a friend to

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>send an anonymous message across the internet on his behalf,

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>telling everyone how sorry he was and explaining how to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of the program.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that'd be the important part.

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, here's the problem. No one could get messages on

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>the network because it is stupid worm. Right, so they

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.080
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get his stupid message. They could send postcard or

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 2>like they still did telegrams Western Union.

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they still do today.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 2>I know, well, Elizabeth, do you know? So? Uh? The

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>other friend that he talked to was like, forget this bro.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>He called the New York Times. Wow, he left an

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>anonymous tip.

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>He didn't even hold out to get paid. Now he's

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 3>just like I was going to get this off my hands.

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I am so enraged with Yeah, he was like this,

0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>someone needs to put a stop to this.

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't want to call the police. He's like, I'll

0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 3>call the Yeah.

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, the police aren't going to understand what I'm talking.

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just I'm just position. So he

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 2>told the paper that he knew who built the program.

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 2>And he did explain that the creator didn't mean to

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>do harm and that it was just this experiment and

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 2>that it was actually so infectious, not due to the

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.439
<v Speaker 2>guy's ace programming, but because there was an error in

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the programming.

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Replicating he had put.

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>Like a zero to put one, and then.

0:27:58.400 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 3>He couldn't even fix it.

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>He could Yeah, He's like, oh no, oops. And so

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 2>the hacker oops his way to infamy.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 2>And when he left the tip, the source referred to

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the worm's author by his initials RTM. Okay, Well, so

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the New York Times was back then full of very

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>smart people and.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Only sixty thousand. We have to check on these.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Universales, right, So they took the information and they deduced

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that the rogue hacker programmer had to be twenty three

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>year old Cornell University graduate student Robert Tappan Morris, Oh

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 2>there it is. Meanwhile, the worms cruising through the internet quickly,

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 2>crashing computers left and right. Everything's freezing, and who is

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>this Morris Zarin.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Do we know that he was intentionally trying to create

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the worm's functions or because you said that it was

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of a mistake the functionality.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like the respectively, I could create a

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>worm that would that would like really like slow everything down.

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 3>On so he intentionally wanted to.

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>And then it's as if like I was like, I

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>bet I can make like a big firecracker that would

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>go off, and then instead of putting like an M

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>a D and then like slide a stick of dynamite,

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>I bet that's gonna be great. And then oh so

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 2>he this Morris cat right, Harvard graduate in computer science.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>His dad was an early innovator at Bell Labs.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow Central.

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he grew up surrounded by computers and networking

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>in mainframes and database the cybers and whatnot. The matrix.

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget the matrix.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It comes later, but yeah, no, it was then.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 2>At Harvard Morris made a name for himself with his

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>text skills. He was like Scooter Computer and mister Chips. Yeah,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>total b b bops, so many bes. And he was

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>particularly adept with Unix. And that's a code, and that's

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>all I know about it. We're going to just leave

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it lest it's like the O G Hipster code. It's

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the drip coffee of code. I have no idea what

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about anyway. So he went to Harvard and

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>then he got into grad school at Cornell, future alma

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 2>mater of Andy Bernard, and so he this this right.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 2>He was known for his technological prowess, especially in Unix.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>And he's you know, so he's waiting for the academic

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>year to begin. He did some tinkerings his bored He

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>built a program spread slowly and secretly across the Internet.

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>How do I make digital cancer?

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I am hoping that, as he was like tep tap

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>tap tap on his Amiga computer, that at some point

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping that at some point in the process he

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 2>leaned back in his desk chair and did like the

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>full throated volume building Villain's lab. Oh yeah, I hope

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he dident.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Let's se him.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he wanted to release his little darling into

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the world, like me, writing inside jokes into my show

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>outlines that only Sarah TACIONI will understand that was his.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>It was for him.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Are me pouring salmon oil into someone's air conditioning of

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>their cars?

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 3>Like come this summer, this is gonna be awesome.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>So Morris is a smart puppy little fella. He didn't

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.479
<v Speaker 2>release the worm from his computer at home or at

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Harvard or at Cornell. He stuck it to those pricks

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>at MI T and he hacked into their system and

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 2>sent it from there. So it wasn't that much of

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>a mistake. It wasn't that much of a noopsy, doesn't

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>at all. He's like, boom, how do you like them apples?

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>That bay.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Of course, the FBI got involved, and of course they

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly figured out it was Morris, And so all

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, he's got guys and suits on his doorstep,

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 2>not the Kuza, and more of them are interviewing his friends,

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>which they're calling his associates, which they're like, I am cool.

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, and they're seizing his computers and

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they're decrypting his files and so so much evidence and

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 2>it's all incriminating. This was a new frontier, this hacking,

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Like what law.

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Had he I did not ask, but did they even

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>have laws?

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Because people hadn't even heard the word internet, daren. I

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't hear that word until twenty fourteen.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.239
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if they even come up with like, oh,

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>this is like you know, I don't know, trespassing or

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 3>like electronics.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Check it out. Two years before he unleashed his worm. Yeah,

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Congress passed the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of nineteen

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 2>eighty six. I am not kidding you. They saw so

0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>many radio shack commercials and they're like this.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 3>We got to make some staws here.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 2>So this outlawed unauthorized access to protected computers.

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 3>They watched Rocky Ford, they went nuts, they.

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Welled war games. Yeah, so like gatcha Morris, we got

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 2>a law. He was charged in nineteen eighty nine. In

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.239
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety, he was found guilty, and that made him

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the first person convicted under the nineteen eighty six law.

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Ow.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Interesting didn't do any time.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 3>No, no, this is like I'm not root form, just surprised.

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>He got a fine, probation and four hundred hours of

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<v Speaker 2>community service. Okay, and then I feel like we're at

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of Sneak at this.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, Yeah, one of your favorite films.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, in my top five. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>movie so much. I think I have to watch it

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<v Speaker 2>again though. But what he did do is wake people

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<v Speaker 2>up to the dangers lurking on the Internet. Right after

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<v Speaker 2>the worm attack the Department of Defense, they created the

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>country's first computer emergency Response team, and then developers started

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>creating intrusion detection software and so on.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>This was like early MacAfee kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much. And then on the dark side of

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<v Speaker 2>the coin, the Morris Worm inspired a new generation of hackers,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and some say, on a quiet night, you can still

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>hear the haunting screams of the worm as it makes

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>his way through the tubes and caverns of the digital frontier.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that what that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the matrix, brot hear. Let's hear from a listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's shift gears a little bit. Do you remember Hondo.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>He's the rude dude who his house got broken into

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted to remind us all that property crime

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>still hurts.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, Yeah, it was a important message.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And we were letting him and the other listeners

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 2>know that we totally miserate, and we really only cheer

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>on burglars who steal from the violently rich. Yes, and

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 2>every day stuck, every day working folks like you and

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 2>me and Hondo don't deserve these sorts of things. Anyway,

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 2>Hondo reached out again. Here it is. Hey guys, it's

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Hondo again. Thanks for the shout out a few weeks ago.

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 2>It meant a lot. You want to hear something ridiculous.

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>While we were cleaning up the mess where the burglars

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 2>broke into the safe, we found a receipt from a

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>local supermarket. The receipt is for a scratcher redemption a

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks before the break in. It has the date, time,

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 2>store location, even the cashier's name on it. I'm one

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure that the receipt does not belong to

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:43.360
<v Speaker 2>myself or any of my family. LAPD has done nothing

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>with the lead, though, but I thought it was funny

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>that the burglar dropped a receipt with all the information

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to get a space on camera and perhaps a license

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 2>plate in the parking lot. I went to the store

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and I asked to see the footage, but the manager

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>said they need a police order. Hopefully the detective will

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 2>get off his button do something. But unfortunately this kind

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of crime in LA is not very important to them.

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's pretty rampid. I had people break into security.

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I had one of those personal storage units. Yeah yeah,

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>and there's a little like gap at the top of

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 3>the wall, and so it's the person in the in

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 3>the storage unit next to mine broke through the top

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>of that and then pulled everything they would squeeze they

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 3>could squeeze through. But it turns out what they could

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 3>squeeze through was like fifteen guitars. Wait, yeah they were

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 3>my guitars there, my cousin guitars. Yeah, well my cousin,

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 3>my cousin SKA bands guitars. But yes, like so he lost,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 3>like and I went and I contacted the LAPD. I

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.800
<v Speaker 3>showed them all the stuff I had, all these pictures.

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 3>They have all of the cameras down in the self

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 3>storage place and they're like, yeah, man, I don't know

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>what to tell you. If you checked the eBay, maybe

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>you can get lucky and like what buy some of

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>them back, And that was their best advice.

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 2>So frustrating, and it happens so often, like they have.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 3>The information I feel for you, Hondo.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I know someone who had their bike stolen and it

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>had an air tag on it and you could track

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>it to like an apartment building, and they told the cops,

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and the cops were like, I can't really, you know,

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 2>we don't know. They had all these reasons they couldn't

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 2>knock on the door. So the person got a group

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 2>of fools and went down there and taught themselves, which

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:11.840
<v Speaker 2>is not smart. It depends on who you posse. You

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 2>need at least like three four furries.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I was as close as he could get.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 3>He was like, you got a Mophead.

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Back to Honda. He continues, Anyway, I heard an interesting

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 2>story recently and thought you guys would do a great

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>job of telling it because it's funny. The story of

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Lothar malscat an artist who was supposed to restore medieval

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>murals on churches in Nazi Germany. Instead, he had to

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 2>recreate the murals entirely. He made the mistake of leaving

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>wild American turkeys done by another artist in a mural,

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and the Nazis said it was proof that the German

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 2>race had discovered the New World first. And after the

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 2>war he wanted credit for faking the Beloved and Beautiful Murals,

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.600
<v Speaker 2>but no one believed him, so he sued himself to

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>get the credit. There's much more to the story, involving

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 2>more artists and crime, but I've written a long enough email.

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to hear you guys cover the story. Keep

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>up the good work. Thanks. So I am going to

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 2>look into loth Art and if I can't work up

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 2>an entire episode for this cat, then I'm going to

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>try and put together some sort of art forger grab bag.

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>You know I love art forgers. So thank you for that. Honda.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>One quick email before we take a break. Hi, Elizabeth,

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I know you hate the emails, so sorry. So not

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>that you would ever watched nine one one, but do

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 2>you think they've gone too far with the cruiseh disaster. Also,

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I finally checked out the website and it's epic. Love

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>you guys, Mikayla. I don't even know where to begin

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>when talking about the latest season of nine to one one. Mikayla,

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, for real, it's so unhinged and so campy.

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.720
<v Speaker 2>It so there's like the Cruise Ship three parter was nuts,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 2>nothing made sense, it was pirates, and then it was

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 2>like a lady from an old episode having an affair,

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 2>and then it was a hurricane, and then LA Fire

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Department performed a dangerous sea rescue in international waters. It

0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>was just so much, and that's why I love the show.

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 2>It's all just too much Eddie causing that store clerk

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.320
<v Speaker 2>to go nuts and impersonate his dead ex wife. I

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>just can't. And I've recently been introduced to another show

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>full of crimes that I missed the first time around.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it now and I'm currently on i think

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>season three, a little show called Scandal. Scandal walked so

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>nine to one one could run. Yeah, it's the wildest

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>nonsensical telenovela and I can't stop watching it. And apparently

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>there are only a dozen people in Washington, d C.

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And they're all plotting for and against them with each other.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Let's pause, MICHAELA. You can take a commercial break two

0:38:36.719 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>and two and all that be right back. This just

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 2>in a bunch of rude dudes. Hepped us to this

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 2>update to one of our most iconic stories. I'm talking

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>about Democracy manifest Yes. Yes, it was on October eleventh,

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety one that the cameras captured a guy protesting

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 2>his innocence from dining and dashing as police escorted him

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>from the China Sea restaurant, Iconic, Iconic Australian. He did

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:28.799
<v Speaker 2>his whole speech about his succulent Chinese meal and someone

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>touching his penis and is great, Well, there's been a.

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Reunion between him and the guy who touched him.

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>So Jack Carlson was the guy, and the arresting officer

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is a guy named Stole Watt. Stole Watt, Yeah, not

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>pole pot, stole stole so like like like.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>A mink stole, like stalls.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, star wars, Yes, in the snow. So those

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 2>two they get together. They went back to that very

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>same Brisbane restaurant. Decades later, they enjoyed a succulent Chinese

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 2>meal together.

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Did you know video of that rant has been watched

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of times, that has been memed to

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>death And this was the first time they spoke since

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.880
<v Speaker 2>becoming viral sensations. Yeah, So the press joined them as

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>they sat down and broke noodles together. They said that

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't believe how notorious and well known the video

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>had he come. Jack told ABC News Breakfast that the

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>whole skipping out on meals or like paying was stolen

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 2>credit cards? Thing was quote a case of mistaken identity.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>It was no, he said, quote, I was released. I

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the person they thought I was.

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 3>They went with the shaggy defense, just Australia style.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't night and so good, thank you. And then

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>the claim that someone you know, like touched on his

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Jenny's that was quote probably made up, according to Jack.

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 3>We all heard it, I know.

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>But then Stole he was like quote. Jack has since

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 2>said that he exaggerated that one.

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, so he didn't. The moment he decided to go.

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:06.320
<v Speaker 2>For it, he gave quite the performance and mc patrick

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 2>reporters asked him the classic question about his acting. What

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>was your motivation?

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 3>Did they?

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>And he said he didn't remember. But what like Stole,

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 2>he's chatting the cops chattier. He's like, quote, I think

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>he would have been a great actor. I must say

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Jack would have made a good detective in a different

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 2>line of work.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Good detective.

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess the criteria were, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So the two got a marvelous voice. I could listen

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 3>to it all day.

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>He has a presence, So.

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.840
<v Speaker 3>That's not a detective. You're talking about maybe a radio announcer.

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's to say anyway, So they get

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>together and the reason was to unveil plans for a

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:46.359
<v Speaker 2>documentary about that fateful day Wow and Jack's troubled life.

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 2>And it's called The Man Who Ate a Succulent Chinese Meal.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the name of the came down a mountain I know, right,

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:55.919
<v Speaker 2>And it's going to come out early twenty twenty five.

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>It's going to delve into Jack's troubled past. Before the arrest,

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>he said that most of his life since the age

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of seven had been spent in institutions, homes, prisons. He'd

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>been a criminal and escape from jail three times. I

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>love it going on.

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>An Australian show.

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Told Your Freedom with his motivation, I sense that.

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, guy, that's his motivation. An Australian show called Earshot

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>recently covered his crazy life, including his first escape from

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 2>jail in nineteen sixty six, the Bogo Road jail and

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>he jumped in order to escape. He jumped from a

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 2>train on the way to the court hearing. I know

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>he'd been busted for breaking and entering, but at the

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 2>restaurant for the press off. Jack said that there's one

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>escape that he's quote pretty proud of. Apparently he impersonated

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>a detective and walked out of his court cell before trial.

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 2>On another.

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 3>He knows how we walk, how we talk.

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 2>He'd been arrested for he broke into these cars and

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 2>they found all the tools on him total. Anyway, he

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>walks right out. He's had a lot of health challenges

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>of late, and I think he's come forward in order

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to get some help with fundraisers and such. Yeah. Remember

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.840
<v Speaker 2>there was controversy as to his real identity. There was

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that artist called Jack Kay whose real name was supposed

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 2>to be Cecil George Edwards. Cecil George Edwards. I think

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 2>that's him, but the story's still really muddy. Anyway, that's

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the update. We got a great email from a listener

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>named Kit. It begins, I run an out patient's psychiatry practice.

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Someone broke into our office and it was totally ridiculous.

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Close your eyes, oh snaps, eren kid wants you to

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>picture it.

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh kid, bring it. Eyes are closed.

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>It's two am and you are a half eaten Costco

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>sized bag of checks picks just hanging out in a

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 2>cabinet with some fellow snackis next to a first aid

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 2>kit in the kitchenette of an office suite shared by

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>a group of mental health providers. Suddenly, the piece is

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 2>disturbed by a loud crash. It is the sound of

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>someone's smashing down the back door, an emergency exit that

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>apparently is not connected to any sort of alarm. For

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the next few minutes, you hear the thieves rummaging around

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>each office. Some f bombs are dropped as soon as

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>they realize there's literally nothing valuable in any of the

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:22.800
<v Speaker 2>offices you've been in. Some of them pretty much just couches,

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 2>coffee tables, and inspirational wall art, like the cat dangling

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 2>from a branch with the caption hang in there. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you. One thief yells to the other, I found

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>one of those machines that squeeze your arm. The other

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.200
<v Speaker 2>yells back, I saw a projector in the conference room.

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<v Speaker 2>Go grab it. I'm gonna look in the kitchen. You're

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>blinded by light as the cabinet door swings open. The

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 2>next thing you know, you're tossed in a sack with

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<v Speaker 2>the first aid kit, a couple kansas soup, a box

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>of tissues, the projector, San's power cord, and a blood

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 2>pressure cuff. I am dying, Zaren, and I'm worried that

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Kit is going to steal my jibs.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously amazing.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 2>That was so amazing. The email continues. The thing that

0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>makes this crime even more ridiculous is that one of

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>the providers left their office keys on the desk and

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 2>the thieves stole them. I guess they wanted to let

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>themselves back in if they got hungry for another can

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of soup. All told, the burglars made off with about

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven dollars of loot. It cost about fifteen hundred

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars to fix the back door. Because the stolen keys

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.480
<v Speaker 2>included the key to the front door of the building.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>We had to change that lock and make a new

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 2>front door key for everyone in the building. Locksmith bill

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty six hundred dollars. How's that for ridiculous? Love the show.

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Keep bringing us the hilariously ridiculous Kit.

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Kit.

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>That was a legend.

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you served it up.

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 2>That's totally ridiculous. I'm always blown away by like low

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 2>stakes crimes, and I suppose that's a sign of serious

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 2>desperation or drunken or drunken, but it's still ridiculous and

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it's so frustrating with those repair bills. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>unspoken part of time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing I regret most about my adolescent crimes

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 3>is how much damage I did to people who would

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<v Speaker 3>then have to pay for it. I didn't think obviously,

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't think about it at the time. If I'm

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 3>from graffiti to like, hey, let's you know, boat across

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that lake and break into that cabin or whatever we

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.479
<v Speaker 3>came up with as an idea, I regretted people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there you maya culpa. I have another update.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Remember your nuns, not the Belgian ones, but the Texas ones.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, fighting the good fight. O fallen in love

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>with the priest. So the bishop had accused Mother Girlock

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 2>the mother Superior in Austin. Yeah, she was like sexting

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and drugs. She admitted to breaking her vow of chastity

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 2>on two occasions, but she said that she only spoke

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>to the priest by phone.

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they didn't know.

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of heavy breathing. I was not

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>in my right mind, she said. Even the nune can fall,

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.520
<v Speaker 2>which like yeah, you're human, get it. I'm not going

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:49.279
<v Speaker 2>to start in on that. Like, let's just leave it

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 2>lay where Jesus flaying it is, I like to say,

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>because I can go on a rant anyway. The bishop

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.439
<v Speaker 2>released photos of Weed inside the monastery that he said

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>he got the pictures from a maintenance.

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Her and the is in the photos.

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the nuns lawyer is like hash.

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's like a little plastic bong like it's

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 3>a terrible novelty from the headshop. Yeah.

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh so she mother girl like she was hospitalized in

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 2>November twenty twenty two for seizures. She's taken pain medication, Like,

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 2>was that medication the good er? Well, it's nobody's business

0:47:22.120 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>but the sisters. She uses a wheelchair and a feeding tube,

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 2>so let's just let the lady do her thing. The

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Vatican initially gave the bishop authority over the nuns as

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<v Speaker 2>part of his land grab to get his grubby paws

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<v Speaker 2>on the monastery. He went to fire Mother girlock nuns

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't budge. Bishop said he was going to excommunicate him. Okay,

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>so the Vatican stepped in, Yes they did, and the

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 2>nuns now have a new boss. Yeah, oversight will now

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 2>belong to the Association of Christ the King in the

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 2>United States of America. Oh and that's the association that

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 2>oversees all Carmelite monasteries, and the Vatican is the one

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>that decreed it. So the bishop's out of a picture.

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Nice right, here's a good email. Here we hear, we

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 2>go email. I am a fan of your podcast. I

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 2>started listening recently from the beginning and it's been a

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 2>riot to listen to. I feel like you might get

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 2>a kick out of the shenanigans that have become commonplace

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>for my university town. Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada,

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 2>gained the reputation of a party school in two thousand

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and five when during homecoming celebrations, a car was flipped

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and burned during a large street party.

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:34.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh down.

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Each year since then has been a spectacle of some sort,

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 2>with twenty sixteen being my absolute favorite, when three people

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 2>were charged after a police horse was slapped the pandemic

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>front end or back. You'll find out the pandemic changed

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 2>homecoming in twenty twenty one to a virtual event, so

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 2>faux coming happened on Saint Patrick's Day and caused students

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>at a street party to cause a roof to collapse.

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's so much more that I'm forgetting, which

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt you could hunt down if you're interested.

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Stuff like students swinging from power lines. It's usually pretty ridiculous.

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I was prompted to send this email when I hosted

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.240
<v Speaker 2>a clothing exchange and someone brought a Queen's Homecoming Volunteer

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five ball cap, Big Fan, Thanks, Aaron.

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 2>I was intrigued by the horse slapping. Let me fill

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you in. I think I think we all are so

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.839
<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, like Aaron said, Now, you would usually think

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.760
<v Speaker 2>that I'd be outraged at a crime involving slapping and animals.

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Why I tried to apologize for my laugh, I don't know.

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 2>This one has something I really love in it. Buckle up, FRIENDO. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Three people, as she said, were charged after slapping Murnie,

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a Kingston, Ontario police horse, and that during that homecoming celebration,

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Murnie was a new recruit, all bright eyed and silky made.

0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>In all the present information, the officer riding Murnie is

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 2>referred to as her partner, which I love so much

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 2>it hurts. Oh yeah, so Mernie got slapped the first

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 2>time at two fifty five pm, and then again five

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.760
<v Speaker 2>minutes later, and then a third time around three thirty pm,

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.879
<v Speaker 2>and a woman was detained and then released. At the scene,

0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 2>two guys were arrested and they were charged with causing

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 2>injury to a law enforcement animal.

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh so they really tried to slap it hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing. You know how, I love when

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 2>wild animals turn on people who are trying to keep

0:50:22.200 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>them in captivity. Like the lady who had a chimp

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 2>in her suburban home and it ripped her face off.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Do it a good I love it. So the horse here,

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the victim took back some agency. There's a video and

0:50:35.960 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 2>it's glorious. The woman who was detained to the scene,

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>she like runs up behind the horse. But the horse

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 2>is beautiful.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 3>But I hope she didn't hit the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it gives the rump a big old slap. Oh

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:52.359
<v Speaker 2>she's funny. Now you've been around horses. Yeah, common sense, Yeah,

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.560
<v Speaker 2>this action lacks a sort of common sense. The horse

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 2>does what a horse would and should do. It gives

0:50:58.880 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>old girl a swift backwards kick and sends her tumbling.

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.800
<v Speaker 2>It is a thing of glorious beauty. I have watched

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 2>it so many times. You know how seeing people get

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 2>hurt in videos or in real life gives me those

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:13.839
<v Speaker 2>shooting pains, mostly my legs.

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Its Yeah huh.

0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 2>We still haven't figured out what that's all about. But

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 2>this I felt no pain. Really, I felt power, because

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what, the summer of Dark Elizabeth continues.

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 3>It's so fired.

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>After the incident and the video showing up on Instagram,

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Constable Steve Coopman told Global News quote, it could have

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 2>been a much worse situation. The animal still kept its composure.

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.879
<v Speaker 2>Luckily the animal didn't bolt and the officer wasn't armed.

0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, bless oh yeah, because just go right open. Okay,

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.800
<v Speaker 2>here's an email that's a little different. Hello, Elizabeth and

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 2>zaren So. I started listening to Ridiculous Crime about a

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 2>year ago, and only started listening from the beginning a

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>few months ago. It has come to my attention that

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 2>we know a weird amount about y'all, but have some

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 2>very large gaps missing. Me and a friend I listen

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 2>with have started referring to anything we know about your

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 2>and y'all's lives has since been coined ridiculous crime lore.

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Please enlighten us and fill in a few of my

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>blanks by answering some or none or all. Pick your

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>poison of my various questions.

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 3>Oh they got real questions?

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm going to read you the questions here

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 2>and we'll pick some. Sure, Elizabeth, how did you get

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:27.480
<v Speaker 2>into podcasting?

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Great question?

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 2>How did y'all meet? It's obvious you knew each other before,

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 2>But for how long and how well? Is there actually

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a wall full of story ideas? Why did you stop

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.319
<v Speaker 2>asking us to confess to ridiculous crimes at the end

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:45.080
<v Speaker 2>of every episode? Who writes the show credits? What's your

0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite type of hot sauce?

0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 5>Say?

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I was a dog in sunglasses? How would I get

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 2>an intern position? What jobs have you had in the past?

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I know Zaren was a journalist and Elizabeth was a

0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>teacher and author and for a short time work today's hardware.

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 2>How old are you? Guys? You don't sound old at all,

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 2>but Elizabeth has talked about cassette tapes and it makes

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>me wonder, how, Elizabeth, how old is your Goodreads author profile?

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Because I know you now live in California?

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Again?

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 2>If you ever do end up reading this email. Thank

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:16.600
<v Speaker 2>you for your time, Brent.

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Those are great questions, Brent.

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Those are good I can tell you about I'm locked

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>out of my good Reads author profile. They don't believe

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that I'm the author, of course, and they don't let me.

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I do all their little thing of prove it up,

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and they keep saying sorry, it doesn't and I don't

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm doing wrong.

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 3>That's weird.

0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 2>So whatever, I hate good Reads for a lot of reasons.

0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's see. So is there a wall full of story ideas?

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>There is the big boards we called it literally is

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 3>a corkboard too. I have a giant corkboard that I

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 3>maintained for Elizabeth because she doesn't like poking things into

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 3>the corkboards. I'm like, I'll take care of it. So anyway,

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:55.280
<v Speaker 3>it's a big.

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Board question writing. So I write the cards.

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Much better handwriting. And then Dave's got best taste in

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the stories. So between the three of us we generally

0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:04.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of figure out.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Some fox cards the index cards. Yes, I'm sorry I

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 2>should describe that subject on it.

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 3>So there has some like mention of either like a

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 3>recommendation from you guys, or possibly just like a three

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 3>word phrase that Elizabeth came up with and like some

0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 3>fever dream and then wrote down and the interns like

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.760
<v Speaker 3>gave it to us. We put on the big board.

0:54:22.800 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 2>So you have some on the here at headquarters, on

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 2>the big board that will never get made.

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, like Nigerian dick theft.

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Nigerian dick theft. It's just fun to have up there.

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we just keep that one up there, like, oh,

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 3>we'll get that there. It is never doing that.

0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Why why did we stop asking people to confess to crimes?

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it was twofold.

0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 3>We didn't want to encourage people to do criminality and

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 3>some of them.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Are like, that's not really crime. Yeah, it was just

0:54:46.200 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't work it out.

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And sad stories, a lot of sad stories.

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Who writes the show credits? We take turns telling the story.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Elizabeth writes hers, and I write, Elizabeth, what.

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Is your favorite type of hot sauce?

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Daring, stolen? What's yours? Elizabeth?

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Tiger sauce? I like tiger.

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I think, in all honesty, I'm pretty boring because the

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>I still love the taste of mckilney's and everything. I

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 3>just compared to that, So really That is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>The Maclanies like the old school tabasco sauce.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I walked into the kitchen at headquarters the other

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<v Speaker 2>day and you didn't see me, and I watched you

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<v Speaker 2>grind half a container of pepper onto a sand. Love

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<v Speaker 2>pepper so he gets more pepper?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah no, but I love like. I had to

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to say pimiento when I was traveling in

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<v Speaker 3>Colombia because they don't keep it on the table. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what does this just salt? Just salt? Like, where's my pimiento?

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<v Speaker 2>I stood there in the in the doorway and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I hope he doesn't see me. This is creepy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always in the air. Can smell it in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm dune. I grind so much pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I've never seen a person eat that much pepper.

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<v Speaker 3>People like, you know, when you go to a place

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<v Speaker 3>where they have like actual pepper grinder and you have

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<v Speaker 3>to ask for it. Now they do always the joke

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<v Speaker 3>with the cheese and there, oh I got to grind

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<v Speaker 3>the cheese. I'm bad for the pepper grinder. But the

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<v Speaker 3>person's like, I didn't know it was going to work

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<v Speaker 3>out today, sir, what about the vinegar peppers? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>like to use that for hot sauce? That's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>my thing for barbecue. You have much better taste than

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<v Speaker 3>I do, do you. Well, it's it depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eating.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they as has been revealed on the show previously,

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<v Speaker 4>that Red's hot sauce, which comes in a couple of kinds,

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<v Speaker 4>I really like as a kind of all purpose uh

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<v Speaker 4>trulula for Mexican food, sure, and those like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's like a bottle, a clear bottle of peppers with

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<v Speaker 4>covered in vinegar, and that's the best for barbecue for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely the best for barbecue. I agree with that. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're a dog in sunglasses and you want an intern position,

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<v Speaker 2>then you just submit your resume to our head intern Mickey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and we do need a pawprint, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as far as other interns, don't you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want It's the worst job in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of butts sniffing.

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<v Speaker 2>The aren't the dug So that I have one more message,

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have any other questions?

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<v Speaker 3>Some other ones?

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<v Speaker 2>How did we meet a long time ago?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not telling you that. Next question, how old.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we a lady?

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<v Speaker 3>Never tell yes? Next question I like skipping.

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<v Speaker 2>What jobs have you had in the past, is Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>you were a journalist?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been a lot of things as a journalist.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been a house spanner. I've delivered kosher pizzas, I've

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<v Speaker 3>delivered Chinese food. I have gone around and tried to

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<v Speaker 3>sell TV shows to people. I've done all sort of

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<v Speaker 3>been an ad man for a while. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of stuff. What about you, Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, drifter, smoker, hobo, nickel collector and saleswoman exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly America's Sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>That's lasting title.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had that job for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>You're what america sweetheart emeritus?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly a Maratha. How did I get into podcasting?

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<v Speaker 3>The show opened the door and I walked right in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where we record men.

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<v Speaker 2>I told them. I told them that my name was

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<v Speaker 2>something else. I was like, Hi, my name's Hillary Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for my podcast, and they bought it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then here I am.

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was actually woken up from induced coma,

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<v Speaker 3>and they said, do you know what a podcast is?

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<v Speaker 3>And when I said no, then they gave me.

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<v Speaker 2>One exactly see that's how it works. I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all the story. Yeah, that's good on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me give you one last message, Zarah and

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth and Dave. I know that no one, not even

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<v Speaker 2>the poor poor interns, will check this email, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have no social media, so this is my only option

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<v Speaker 2>to reach out to you all. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>send a quick thank you message to all of you

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<v Speaker 2>for the wonderful show you all produced. As a physical therapist,

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<v Speaker 2>I spend all day focused on my patients and their

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<v Speaker 2>complex medical, physical, and mental situations. I very much appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your show as a part of my unwinding and self

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 2>care when I get home. I'm not so sure how

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 2>much my cat's appreciate my snorting laughs, but they perk

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<v Speaker 2>up at your voices. I very much appreciate your contributions

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<v Speaker 2>to the world via Ridiculous Crime. I learned so much,

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<v Speaker 2>laugh heartily, and regain my faith in humanity when I

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<v Speaker 2>listen to you all, and wish y'all were my best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Cc oh we hear this that

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<v Speaker 2>the show is a relief from the garbage around us

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<v Speaker 2>in a way to unwind and like connect with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to say that the feeling is one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred percent mutual.

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<v Speaker 3>We do it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because like the insanity that is ridiculous crime

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<v Speaker 2>keeps us sane. I can't properly explain to you what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to connect with people I've never met like this,

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<v Speaker 2>And like, sometimes I have a tough time of things,

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<v Speaker 2>like we all do, and when I come into headquarters

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<v Speaker 2>and I get to sit with my friends and tell

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<v Speaker 2>stories and escape, it is the greatest feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so knowing that that great feeling makes other people

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<v Speaker 2>feel good goly. And I don't usually think of it

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, right like I think of us we make it.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we hear from listeners who have us in

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<v Speaker 2>their lives twice a week, and it's a little overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And people all over the world in places

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<v Speaker 2>I would only dream of visiting, like I'm looking at you, Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>they hear us, and they and they enjoy being part

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<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, And they are there. The listeners

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<v Speaker 2>are totally a part of this. They're part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we get messages like this, my heart gets full.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's something very necessary in this world totally.

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<v Speaker 3>My little grinch heart just grew to twelve sizes. So

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<v Speaker 3>thank you, honestly, I mean it means the world to

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<v Speaker 3>us because we do this for you guys. You know

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there there is you know, iHeart and stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>we have to. We have people going, hey, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>do stuff, but we really do it for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. That's all makes it so.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy to come in here and tell stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that we are all together in this. We're

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<v Speaker 2>totally together, is so, Zaren. What's your ridiculous takeaway?

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<v Speaker 3>My ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth, thank you for asking is I

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<v Speaker 3>think we need to tell more stories about crime, evolve,

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<v Speaker 3>living legends who are still around so we can hear updates.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this here and the updates.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the updates.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nothing against like the history ones. I love those two.

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<v Speaker 3>But being able to be able to hear from like

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<v Speaker 3>succulent Chinese meal man is awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what my ridiculous takeaway is. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for asking me.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really care, but okay, fine, okay, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to take on your callous attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels good, dark Elizabeth. Kids coming from a job

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<v Speaker 2>with her picture or there picture it. That's all I have. Oh, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>do we have a talk back?

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<v Speaker 3>We sure do? Oh God, I love je. Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>What you guys do is amazing and I think you

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<v Speaker 5>guys couldn't really keep it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching them on your past episode. Reason it

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<v Speaker 2>was really good.

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<v Speaker 5>No, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very nice. I thought there was more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, what a sweet voice, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave's like, then she threatened your life, so I cult it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's the last half.

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