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Speaker 1: See right here for our final news roundup and information overload.

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Speaker 2: All right, News Roundup and information overload. Our toll free

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Speaker 2: our number is eight hundred and nine to four one. Sean.

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Speaker 2: If you want to be a part of the program,

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Speaker 2: let me take you back to twenty ten. And you

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Speaker 2: would think that we have made some progress in the

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Speaker 2: last fourteen years. But we haven't. And I'll explain why

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Speaker 2: in a moment. But remember Nancy Pelosi famously or infamously

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Speaker 3: It's going to be very, very exciting, but we have

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Speaker 3: to pass the bill so that you can find out

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Speaker 3: what is in it.

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Speaker 2: You have to pass the bill so you know what

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Speaker 2: is in it. Now we have been in continuing resolution

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Speaker 2: meet the deadline of passing their appropriations bills. There are

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Speaker 2: twelve of them. They're supposed to be passed before the

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Speaker 2: twenty three. And they've been, you know, now, passing the

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Speaker 2: a situation where Congress would like to pass a massive

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Speaker 2: omnibus bill. Usually you get these while I'm on Christmas vacation,

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Speaker 2: because that's that that is the most convenient time when

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Speaker 2: going on in Washington. Thankfully that didn't happen this year.

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the House have tried, they've not had a

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Speaker 2: bill get passed. This was one of the reasons that

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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy was is no longer speaker today. But here

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Speaker 2: we find ourselves up against a Friday deadline and what

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Speaker 2: will be well over one thousand page omnibus bill, and

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Speaker 2: as far as I know, as of this hour, the

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Speaker 2: my last understanding was on Friday. Anyway, Senator Mike Lee

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sean going to be with you as always.

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Speaker 2: All right, So can you explain to me that I

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Speaker 2: did I fairly accurately describe the scenario, the situation in Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you stated it well. And what's so sad here, Sean,

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Speaker 3: They expect us to pass this thing by Friday, before

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Speaker 3: and they still refuse to show us the legislative text.

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Speaker 3: So what would any normal legislative body do in the circumstance, Well,

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Speaker 3: they shouldn't have waited this long. But if it's taken

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Speaker 3: you still have to give members the opportunity to read it,

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Speaker 2: It's an artificial deadline that they have created. And considering

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Speaker 3: Right exactly. All I'm trying to do is extend this

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Speaker 2: Well, now let me ask you. You have fellow Republican senators,

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Speaker 3: That's what we were elected to do, to make law,

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Speaker 3: We're given adequate opportunities to debate this thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I know you're going to have conservatives.

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Speaker 3: Some of them, I fear, will look at what happened

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Speaker 3: That was unfortunate and they shouldn't have done that. I

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Speaker 3: But it passed his prologue, we could be heading for that.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 3: The problem here is that the American people are tired

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Speaker 2: Well, if people, by the way, if they would like

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Speaker 3: Right again, passes prologue. What happened last time to the

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Speaker 3: unfortunate and doesn't vogue well for our chances here. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: we have yet to see the bill, which tells me something, Sean.

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Speaker 3: What it tells me is that these guys who are

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Speaker 3: This is our last shot, our last opportunity this year

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've been telling Republicans that they really need

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Speaker 3: But it's impossible to agree to something that you can't

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Speaker 3: We owe the people nothing less than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I tend to agree with you, and I hope

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Speaker 2: people will follow your lead on it again. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'll give out the number I ask people be respectful.

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Speaker 2: Call you congressman or a congresswoman. Call your senators two

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Speaker 2: We appreciate your time, and we'll see what happens in

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Sean good good. I have a comment on the fine

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Speaker 5: How does that make any sense?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. And this is excessive. And

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Speaker 2: The person that is most guilty of a false evaluation,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, hell it's true, but turned out was true.

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Speaker 2: say hi to all right, we'll go to a liberal first,

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Speaker 2: Liberal Bob or Rob in Ohio? Liberal Rob? How are

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Speaker 2: you glad you called Sean?

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Speaker 4: Thanks for taking my call. I just had a quick

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, you're asking a very fair and

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Speaker 2: good question, and I give you a credit for that.

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Speaker 2: I thought he gave a very interesting answer responding to

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Speaker 2: but anyway, Mark Cuban actually said, you know, and the

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Speaker 2: That's what Lu said. Now, I've had debates with Mark Cuban.

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Speaker 2: former Shark Tank host. And he came to Trump's defense

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Speaker 2: with a very lengthy response. And it might be valuable

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Speaker 2: damn sure. He says, but how anyone can vote for

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Speaker 2: He said something as well, And what he's saying is

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Now at least you can get a treasury for a

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Speaker 2: the absolute astronomical figure. Now you got to have the

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Speaker 2: same page. You do know this was a civil case, correct, correct?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: You do know that this was about valuations when Donald

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars for insurance. You understand that,

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Speaker 2: right right, We're all in Oh no, no, no, stay

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Speaker 2: with me, don't don't go rogue here, Okay, follow me. Now,

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Speaker 2: you do know that valuations are subjective. In that there

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Speaker 2: business dealings with Donald Trump. They all got paid back,

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Speaker 2: they all got the interest they agreed to. You are

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Speaker 4: Yes, But Deutsche Bank did have issues so.

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Speaker 2: Long, so long, not in this case. And you do

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Speaker 2: that stated very affirmatively not to go by their valuations.

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Speaker 2: You're aware of.

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Speaker 4: That, right, yep. Everybody do their own due diligence, and.

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Speaker 2: You do know that it would be the fiduciary responsibility

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Speaker 4: Correct, correct, So Deutsche Bank right now?

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Speaker 2: Can I finish now? You also are aware that one

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Speaker 4: Right, yep. And it was unfair.

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Speaker 2: It was unfair. Oh interesting, so that the very thing

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Speaker 2: percent Okay, so he's valuing a place like mar Lago.

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Speaker 2: Now do you watch my TV show I do a

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Speaker 2: little bit, all right? Have you ever seen me put properties.

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Speaker 2: There's one two acre parcel of oceanfront property in Palm

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Speaker 2: Beach that is was I don't know if it's for

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Speaker 2: Did you see that?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: And another one for one hundred and fifty million that

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Speaker 2: the property. You know that too, right, And it was

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Speaker 2: an this is dirt. We're talking about, no property built,

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Speaker 2: no home built on the property, right, correct?

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 2: All right? So, now if you extrapolate out that money

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Speaker 2: and Goron's eighteen million dollar pony valuation, and you've got

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Speaker 2: twenty two acres at mar a Lago, you've got the

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Speaker 2: inner coastal side, and you've got the beach club. You've

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Speaker 2: got a property in pristine condition that has over fifty

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Speaker 2: some odd rooms, and it has other properties adjacent and

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Speaker 2: on the property that people can live in and forty

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Speaker 2: some odd bathrooms and two clubs associated with it. And

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Speaker 2: it is officially a historic property in Palm Beach, Florida.

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Speaker 2: You are aware of that.

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Speaker 4: Too, right, yep, none of that is being discredited.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So then you tell me how is that fair?

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Speaker 2: In your liberal mind? How is it fair that a

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Speaker 2: judge can use the worst valuation off by simple math

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Speaker 2: by nearly a billion dollars and then adjudicate a foreigner

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Speaker 2: in sixty four million dollar judgment against Donald Trump? Does

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Speaker 2: that sound like justice to you?

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't, And if you give me a moment,

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Speaker 4: i'll explain. I agree with you. I think he was

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Speaker 4: treated very unfairly, and I think the evaluations were wrong.

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Speaker 4: But the question I had was how come we can't

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Speaker 4: pay the bonds? And why isn't someone loaning him like me?

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Speaker 4: Can you answer those two questions?

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Speaker 2: I don't know people that have that kind of money,

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Speaker 2: but I you know, I don't know if people are

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Speaker 2: maybe in the process of helping him that that would

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Speaker 2: be a separate issue. However, you agree that all of

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Speaker 2: this is unfair. If all of this is unfair, why

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Speaker 2: would the judge demand the payment before he even gets

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Speaker 2: a chance to appeal. Doesn't that sound like mob justice,

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Speaker 2: as Jonathan Turley called it, No.

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Speaker 4: Because then everyone would appeal everything. If you don't really

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Speaker 4: put up.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, you don't answering. You admit that

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Speaker 2: this was a very unfair case. I've got you to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that, and that the judge is more guilty than

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Speaker 2: the person accused of a phony evaluation. Would you agree

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Speaker 2: with that statement?

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Speaker 4: Yes, But this whole conversation, you're turning it around to me.

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Speaker 4: I'm just asking you a question.

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Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying so you're expecting somebody a judge

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't even allow an appeal, even though you are

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Speaker 2: saying there are egregious problems with this case, even though

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Speaker 2: that that this should not happen in America, you would

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Speaker 2: agree that shouldn't happen. If there's a conservative judge and

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Speaker 2: they did this to Mark Cuban or any you know,

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Speaker 2: a wealthy liberal, you wouldn't think it's fair either, and

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't want that. You would want the person to

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Speaker 2: have an opportunity to appeal, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 4: Yes, Sean, life's not fair. My question is does he

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Speaker 4: have life?

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Speaker 2: Life's not fair? Four hundred and sixty four billion dollars

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Speaker 2: million dollars, a half of billion dollars, and you think

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Speaker 2: he should just have the cash laying around now? To

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Speaker 2: his attorneys filed with the court that they have gone

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Speaker 2: to every bond company that does the kind of work,

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Speaker 2: and none of them will ever issue a bond with

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Speaker 2: that kind of money because it's not the business that

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Speaker 2: they're in. The I used to ever seeing a judgment

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Speaker 2: like that, So is it now? Donald Trump is then

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Speaker 2: put in the position either to fire sale his properties

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Speaker 2: or you know, every case I should have a right

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Speaker 2: to be appealed, and then I would turn to the

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Speaker 2: Eighth Amendment of our Constitution and file a petition in

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Speaker 2: federal court. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive

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Speaker 2: fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that that is likely what happened here? Listen, No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I asked you.

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Speaker 4: Agreed with you. I have agreed with you that.

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Speaker 2: So if you agree that the Eighth Amendment to our

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Speaker 2: Constitution is applicable, then why don't you just stand for

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Speaker 2: justice and stop asking silly questions about why can't a

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Speaker 2: billionaire liquidate his properties and sell them, because that's what

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Speaker 2: you're asking him to do. You're asking in thirty days now,

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Speaker 2: there's no good investor that's going to buy a property

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Speaker 2: in thirty days at the cost that we're talking at

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Speaker 2: cost point we're talking about anyway they're gonna do their

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Speaker 2: due diligence, which they should do, so that would be

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Speaker 2: physically impossible. Also, but any reasonable judge would give him

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Speaker 2: the time to appeal, and while he's appealing, figure out

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Speaker 2: a way, a plan B if this judgment stayed, which

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Speaker 2: I don't think it will stay.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the facts are and we agreed that this is

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Speaker 4: very much a bad precedent to go on. But only

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Speaker 4: question I'm asking you is he said he had four

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty million dollars cash last year. Where is

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Speaker 4: that money that he said he had.

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Speaker 2: I don't recall him ever saying that. However, I defer

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Speaker 2: to a billionaire, of which I am not like somebody

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Speaker 2: like Mark Cuban, who I think was being very fair

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Speaker 2: and he hates Trump as it as a billionaire, But

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Speaker 2: you're not. I assume you're not a billionaire. There aren't

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Speaker 2: very many of them. Are you a billionaire?

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Speaker 4: No, not even close? Some a thousand h Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, and by the way, you can thank Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: for paying more for everything. Say thank you, Joe. He's

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Speaker 2: your president, and so I'm just saying to you, you're

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Speaker 2: asking something that is maybe sounds easy for you to

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Speaker 2: pull off, but I am just telling you the reality is,

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Speaker 2: I agree with Mark Cuban, that is a near impossibility

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Speaker 2: for somebody that is as an even you know, low

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Speaker 2: level of investing intelligence, you wouldn't have anywhere near that

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Speaker 2: amount of cash laying around. You just wouldn't. And it's

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Speaker 2: impossible to liquidate in thirty days. There's your answer.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a self proflaimed billionaire though, who said, who

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Speaker 4: has you know, no reason for special interest? And he's rich,

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Speaker 4: so that's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just telling you there is no way to

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Speaker 2: liquidate his money in that short period of time. It

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Speaker 2: is impossible. And they're asking the impossible, and they're adding

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Speaker 2: more than this. This is more injustice that is thrown

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Speaker 2: and heaped upon Donald Trump because people, hey, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: And that's the sad part of it. And you've acknowledged

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Speaker 2: all of it. And what you should the question you

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Speaker 2: really ought to be asking is what the hell is

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Speaker 2: going on in this country that our Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: has been so weaponized that this can happen to any American.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you any conservative ever does this to

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Speaker 2: a liberal, I will stand with you and defend them

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Speaker 2: against the injustice. Okay, all right, God bless all right.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the call, and I appreciate you actually being honest

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Speaker 2: and answering the questions honestly, because not all liberals would. Oh,

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Speaker 2: good for you. That's a credit to you, right, Linda.

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Speaker 2: I think he deserves profs with that.

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Speaker 5: Honestly.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was great. Yeah, great caller, asking a

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Speaker 2: great question. All right, that's gonna wrap things up with today.

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