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Speaker 2: All right, So just to get out of for those

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Speaker 1: in the last few years. So they come in and

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Speaker 1: then they go to a certain point, right, certain cities

432
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: have kind of like a welcome point, is the best

433
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: way to put it. And they go there and they

434
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: already have a job lined up. They already kind of

435
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: join their cell, and they have the community involved around

436
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: them as part of their Terra cell. So they don't

437
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: come here as a one off and have to make

438
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: it work. It's all set and ready for them. Now

439
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: when they come here, they have lots of times a

440
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: regular cover job. But a lot of people call them sleepers, thinking, oh,

441
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: they're just waiting until the date of the attack, but no,

442
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: they all have something they're supposed to do. Some like

443
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: their job is really to make IDs, like this guy

444
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: just makes pipe bombs, this guy just makes sticky bombs,

445
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: this guy just makes suicide. That's and that's their job

446
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: for months and months and months. There's chemicals. Unfortunately, there's

447
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: a chemical piece of this. Your job is in the

448
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: chemical lab. There's surveillance, counter surveillance, a lot of intelligence collection.

449
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: Member they want to go into veteran communities. Well, a

450
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: piece of the part of going into veteran communities there

451
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: are certain vedorans they are interested in targeting, so as

452
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: you can imagine, they need to get their pattern of life,

453
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: those type of things. So there is a lot of

454
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: work going on by sleeper cells, and some would have

455
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: been in country two years doing these processes, and so

456
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: people need to understand and they're well employed, they're active. Now.

457
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Another piece that's really fascinating is some of them have

458
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: a job to where they have to build the cell

459
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: within the United States. They have to bring in more

460
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: cell members recruited on your soil, which is very very fascinating.

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: But also those should be easier to find because they're

462
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: actually making outreach, they're retreating people, et cetera. So so

463
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: just to let you know, the sleepers are very very active.

464
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I think you know when we

465
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: see those those ideas of you know, dearborn Michigan that

466
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: have you know, the streets are covered with midday call

467
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: and they block the streets and you're like, all right,

468
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: then it's it's the local moss. That's the traditional place.

469
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Is that if if you're if you're in quote sleeper cell,

470
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Speaker 2: are you going to facilitate or utilize the cultural pockets

471
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: within these different cities or will they be in the

472
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 2: will will they be unique? Will they be you know,

473
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: the one or two people living in an apartment you know,

474
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: in some random city away from those larger pockets of

475
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: what you know, American citizens will be like, oh well

476
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: that's a unique pocket of foreigners.

477
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: That is what it is.

478
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 2: Right Like in Portland, there's a large contingency of Somali's

479
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: right wherever it is. Is that what they utilize to

480
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: help foster not only the financing but the relationships for

481
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: to be employed. Also the ability the outreach community outreach

482
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: to bring people in.

483
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 3: Is that or is it ultra covert, low profile stuff.

484
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, First off, they wanted to do the complete opposite

485
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: of nine to eleven. So they're not going to put

486
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: like three people in a small town. And then people

487
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: like these guys are strange, they're not fitting in, they're

488
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: not joining anything, they don't seem to be getting jobs.

489
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: Like that's over right. So they are all in communities

490
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: where they make sense that it doesn't mean they're and

491
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: fully Muslim communities or housing of course. So because remember

492
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: these are gonna be very westernize people. So this isn't

493
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna be someone who comes off as a very extreme

494
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: as lawness, right, that's not his cover. So he's gonna

495
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: be able to hang out to New Orleans just fine. Right,

496
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: So people have to stop focusing on they're in these

497
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Muslim only communities, like that's like just not how it's working.

498
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: Especially the ethnicity that I know here, like the Somalie

499
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: I know that's here is not in one of the

500
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: smaller communities, right, So you know just from the backgrounds,

501
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: and again it's not like different terrorist groups are go

502
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: in certain ways. They really are intermixed. And what I

503
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: feel a lot of location is based on is the

504
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: skill set of what they're in charge of doing or

505
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: what piece of the plot is there. So you know,

506
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: so if they're gonna be the vbid guy, they got

507
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: to go into the part of the country where they're

508
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: going to make the vbids. Obviously, if you're the suicide bomber,

509
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: let's say you're the suicide bomb in aviation, would you're

510
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: going to go near where the first pub airport is

511
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: right for your operation? So those so it's based more

512
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: on the operational strategy. And then you're in a community.

513
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: Of course, the where you blend in and makes sense.

514
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: Now there aren't little tells that have always been there.

515
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: So one thing al Qaeda always does is they're still stripped.

516
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: So if you have let's say it's a safe house,

517
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be an apartment. And there's rules involved

518
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: in the safe house. One is women never come to

519
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: the safe house, right, so you got these young, good looking,

520
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: educated guys, a few of them always go to this

521
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: building and never bring a woman, never bring a child.

522
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of a tell. I don't know. If you

523
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: read over the Manchester Manual, no, I don't know, if

524
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: it's like fifteen or twenty years ago. It got pulled

525
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: out of an AUF and Britain. You can get a

526
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: really good copy of it a line because that was

527
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: using a court case. But there's a piece in there

528
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: that actually walks through what they look for when they

529
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: get a safe house. But it's really just an apartment,

530
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: and it's actually really interested and fascinating. I think people

531
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: should read it because they still look for like their

532
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: safe houses the same way. And there are some unique

533
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: features like especially two doors, like you know, which in

534
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: a lot of apartments at one door. So there's also

535
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: weird things like you can overlook courtyards or pools they

536
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: don't want you to see women and all these type

537
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: of things. So there's all these interesting things. They have

538
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: also multiple documents, right, multiple identities. So I do think

539
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: people should look at that because you can learn a

540
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: lot from it.

541
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: That's fascinating.

542
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: That's the type of thing I think people are hungry for, right,

543
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: They're trying to figure out, all right, if because you

544
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: put in any small municipality and certainly the counterterear and

545
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: budgets have you know, shrunk into almost nil. And you know,

546
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: I mean I remember in the heyday when I was

547
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: at Blackwater, you know, we'd had three thousand people a

548
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: day training at the you know, at the facility. You know,

549
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: and most of those were small community law enforcement agencies

550
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: because they got some federal funding to be on the

551
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 2: look well that's not happening right now. So how is

552
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: the message being received in your mind or what you

553
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: know on the smaller municipalities, the smaller agencies. The place

554
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: that has you know, two hundred police officers and you

555
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: know a small SWAT contingency is you know, is what

556
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: are they doing in preparation for all of this?

557
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I've met a lot of law

558
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: enforcement organizations since January, very large ones, the very small ones.

559
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: And it's more than based on if they had like

560
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: some go getters and apartment that like press their leadership

561
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: and like this is important. We got to get briefed

562
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on this. There's a lot of SWAT teams who don't

563
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: have the funding to do it, but they're changing their tactics.

564
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not going to explain how so Terear Stone now,

565
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: but anyway, so it's really a lot of go getters. Unfortunately,

566
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: we started off, as you can imagine a lot of

567
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: people in law envoys and being like, well is it

568
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: going to happen in my town? What I like to

569
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: say is well, what percentages of your town with veterans? Right, Like,

570
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: that's where you start. Also, if it's going to go

571
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: on for multiple days, potentially, well are you going to

572
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: get called to backup? All far away? Are these cities

573
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: from you? Now, we don't know a lot of the cities.

574
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: We know some of the state's isis is focused on

575
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and then the AQAP video has a few cities, but

576
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that's where they'll be. But there's a

577
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: lot of focus on Pennsylvania in this threat a lot.

578
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: If you are in any city in Pennsylvania, you should

579
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: be preparing and in my opinion, right so, there are

580
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: certain states so that have been very forward landing. Florida's

581
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: very forward landing, Alabama, Georgia, the Carolinas, Tennessee. We've been

582
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: up to New York multiple times. So luckily there are pockets.

583
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: The problem is, until mister Kent put out this memo

584
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: this week, a lot of them didn't have anything to

585
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: stand on when they went to try to sell, hey,

586
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: we need to move funds to do this kind of training.

587
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: So a lot of them were doing like, we need

588
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: to do different kinds of active shooter training and this

589
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: is really smart. So what they did, and I think

590
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: people should do this. If you don't get support, you say,

591
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: we need to do an active shooter drill, but we

592
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: need to do an active shooter drill with three shooters

593
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: hitting two locations. Right, very simple change, but it does

594
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: help with this threat and you don't have to say

595
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of tears and really and unfortunately, right, you

596
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: got to play other ruses to sometimes get money or

597
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: the funding or the support. But we've seen a lot

598
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: of people do really creative things.

599
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: That's fascinating to me because you know, that's the one

600
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: plot that I think is.

601
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: The one that resonates with me.

602
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: It's it's the one I'll never forget when Mumbai took place,

603
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: you know, not that you know, I'm praising the tech,

604
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: but the tactics in that were the best I had

605
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: ever seen. Right, they were just ten guys where you

606
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: can havoc holding the city hostage for fit well with

607
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: fifty eight hours or whatever it was. And if imagine

608
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: that with you know, in in you know, a smaller

609
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: city of two hundred and fifty thousand, three hundred thousand people,

610
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: you know, a smaller police force, you know, not a

611
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: lot of big government entities that can respond.

612
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: You know.

613
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: It's it's like that's the thing that is really the

614
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: most alarming. In particular, if people like you're saying, had

615
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: a year, year and a half of training in preparation,

616
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: then you know, access to the other things because a

617
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: lot of things I think people are like, well, where

618
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: are they going to get their guns?

619
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: How are they going to get their tactical equipment?

620
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

621
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's like how are they going to get

622
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: their tactical equipment? Where are they training? You know, and

623
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: it's like it's just not realistic. And that's what I

624
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: hear a lot of people and read a lot of

625
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: people as I you know, comb through your trolls when

626
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: you make your posts and you know and want to

627
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: go after I'm like, you don't know what you're talking about,

628
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, that's what I think people are

629
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: kind of, uh what I'm concerned of. And and so

630
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: how do people in their local community, civilians, what what

631
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: can they do to kind of be heads up, head

632
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: on a swivel, increase their essay and then if one

633
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: of those incidents does take place and they're engaged in

634
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: around it, you know, how do you how do you

635
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: I mean Obviously, I think all the veterans that they're

636
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: going to be going. Most veterans that I know, at

637
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: least my friends all carry you know. Now I know

638
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: a lot of dudes that are actually carrying backpacks with

639
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, suppressed automatic or some automatic you know, long

640
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: guns in there. You know, what is the deconfliction and

641
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: what is the reaction that people can have in those

642
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: searches in those situations.

643
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, your hope is to not be on

644
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: the X or in the location where it happens. What

645
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: I like to try to tell people is you focuses

646
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: on your family emergency plan and being home and protecting

647
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: your family or at least protecting your neighborhood. Right, have

648
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: a neighborhood group, watch the block off the neighborhood if

649
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: something is happening, and then your police handle the city

650
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: in the roads, your sheriff hand or you know, the

651
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: main highways, et cetera. Now, as you said, we're gonna

652
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of people rolling on this attack if

653
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: it happens, We're just going to because we've had war

654
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: fighters training for twenty years. So what we've been at

655
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: least trying to do in Florida and we're pushing in

656
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: other states is have those meetings and conversations now, especially

657
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: with the veteran organizations in your town. Know who they are,

658
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: because we are a problem with the terrorists might dress

659
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: as law enforcement. So now when you see this veteran

660
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: you've never met, you know, well trained, well armed, he

661
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: looks like law enforcement. Is he an attacker? Is? There's

662
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of confusion in this. So we're

663
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: telling everyone make all the relationships you can now, right,

664
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: bring community into it now because you're in a better spot. Also,

665
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: as you can imagine, let's say they hit the hospital, right,

666
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: and then they do a second round. Well, now you

667
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: can't use the hospital. Well, did you have conversation with

668
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: the local schools, the local churches. Did you stop by

669
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: pile medical supplies elsewhere? Do you even have the blood

670
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: levels where they need to be at the blood banks

671
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: in your town. There are very very simple things that

672
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: will help in any emergency that people are not doing,

673
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: and we need to get citizens involved. Right. I get

674
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: my house in order, I get my kids school in order,

675
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: I get my church in order, and then I work

676
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: with the mayor, the police chief or to get the

677
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: community in order and I think that's the best way

678
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: we at least handle how we protect and defend ourselves. Now,

679
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: when something like this happens the scale it's going to

680
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: happen at it's going to be like Not eleven. You

681
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't know what Not eleven was, but you went the

682
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: hell home And that's what we really that's what you

683
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: need to really focus on. The majority of people are

684
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: going to need to keep themselves and the people they

685
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: love safe.

686
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Speaker 3: Awesome, that's fantastic. All right, last question.

687
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Speaker 2: You know, obviously we saw the President of Syria on

688
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: stage with General Petraeus recently, and the acknowledgment of of

689
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: of this is is for me in particular, I know

690
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: for you it's I've I've listened to you. I know

691
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: all my friends are just an absolute, you know, astonished

692
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: disbelief that this is taking place. What, in your opinion,

693
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: is the right way for the government to begin to

694
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: acknowledge this is real and then and then you know,

695
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: to really what what would you like to see with

696
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: them working with in and around the IC community, but

697
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: all the other government agent, Homeland Bureau all that, what

698
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: would you like to start to see take place?

699
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean our government first has to be honest,

700
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: right al Kaeda is going to do this massive attack,

701
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: then they have to cut off the pieces of a misinformation.

702
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: That's obviously the information coming from the Taliban and the

703
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: information coming from the new Seyan government. This is now

704
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: tainted intelligence and we need to handle it as such.

705
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Even if you take it from them, fine, but it

706
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: needs to be marked. So if I'm an analyst in

707
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: DIA and I read the CIA report, it says on

708
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: it the CIA got it from the Talband, because that

709
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: is not happening right then, So you have to do that.

710
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: You also have to have the real discussion the terrorists. No,

711
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: we collect plenty of things over the phones. Most of

712
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: them got captured on their phones, so they actually sit

713
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: and do planning and strategy meetings for what they're going

714
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: to say on the phone, so NSA can collect it.

715
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: So we have to stop saying NSA information is coroboration, right,

716
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: because that is also tainted. We have to be very honest.

717
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: It's hard for people in the intelligence community to admit

718
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: fooled by terrorists, but we have been. Doctor Aiman al Zaarihir.

719
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: He fooled us with the coast bombing. He fooled us

720
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Speaker 1: with Hams and sad Bin Laden like there are real

721
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: fashionable things where the intelligence community failed. Now this is

722
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 1: just another one. So we first started to be honest

723
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Speaker 1: about that. I do think with a Tulsa and Joe

724
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: at the Helm, I do think they don't have the

725
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: hoot Hubris, and I think they'll care more to protect Americans.

726
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: And now they've got to get to everybody else on board.

727
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. The other part is the only

728
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: way to authority terrorist attack is you got to be

729
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: proactive against it, which we haven't been. One way to

730
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: be proactive against it is you've got to go after

731
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Speaker 1: the masterminds. I know, no one's gonna put Julani in

732
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: the ex right now, so unfortunately we're gonna have to

733
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Speaker 1: ignore probably the Seria piece of it, which I don't

734
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: think we should be doing. But we should be going

735
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: after sciphil Auto. There's no argument siphial Auto is the

736
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: most one of the most wanted terrafts in the world.

737
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Speaker 1: And you know Sencom is actually ignoring information being provided

738
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: to them on his location. They are not actively targeting him,

739
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: which is crazy. He's the mastermind of this plot. Obviously,

740
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: they have to be honest about the big Laden sons

741
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: start collecting on them. Think about it. They have not

742
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: collected against Sabin Laden since two thousand and nine. That

743
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: is an intelligence failure like you could never believe. So

744
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: there has to be a lot of honesty. You got

745
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: to say, hey, we mess this up. Let's get it

746
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: straight out and SAIDCOM has not been honest about the

747
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: ISIS fight. I don't know if we need this Secretary

748
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: of War to say, hey, I'm gonna do some sort

749
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: of counterintelligence review, just like the CIA chief needs to

750
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: do a counter intelligence view of the Afghanistan department. But

751
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: something is wrong now. Is it just bad reporting? Is

752
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: it these relationships with the terrorists, et cetera. I don't

753
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: know what it is, but we have to find the

754
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: root causes of some of these problems. Lastly, we brought

755
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: in all these terrorists. We got to move them out faster.

756
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: We have to prioritize at least their nationalities. Right now,

757
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying block everybody from those countries, but we

758
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: know there's certain passports at a compromise Afghanistan, Syria, Turkey, Libya.

759
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, every single person with one of those passports

760
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: that'll be in rooms all week long being questioned because

761
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know if there's people in Afghan passports

762
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: are Afghan, well, I want to Afghan sitting in front

763
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: of them, talking to them. You know, let's do some

764
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: in the hands betting.

765
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: From your lips, Sarah, from your lips to his ears. Man,

766
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: I just hope people are listening to you. I know

767
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: your audience has certainly grown. I just can't thank you

768
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: enough for having the courage. Obviously it doesn't always put

769
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: you in the safest space, but I know you're protected,

770
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: I know you're smart, and I know you're watching your

771
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: six all the time. I just can't thank you enough

772
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: for spending time with my audience and me. God bless

773
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: you for what you're doing. And just keep it up.

774
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks, thanks for having me. What's up, everybody?

775
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: I am here to talk to you about out fear.

776
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Well.

777
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: You know, one of the things that I hear so

778
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: much when I travel the country, speaking to thousands of

779
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: people every year is people want to always know was

780
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: I afraid? And they asked me, you know, were you

781
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: afraid in combat? Were you afraid in training? And you know,

782
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you that those are really intimate questions.

783
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: Because the answer is holl yes, I was afraid. I

784
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: was afraid all the time. Imagine every single day you

785
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: go into work is a day you could die. Well,

786
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: you know, it took me a long time to get

787
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: comfortable with being able to answer that question.

788
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: Sincerely.

789
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: I used to blow it off in some snapper head responsible, like, well,

790
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: have you ever had a three hundred pound boat on

791
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: your head and stayed awake for five straight days with

792
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: some instructor screaming in your face all day?

793
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: And they'd be like no, And I go, well, you'd

794
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: be afraid, do right?

795
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: And I kind of blew it off in this kind

796
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: of snapper headway, as I said. And the reality is

797
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: people actually want to know. With the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

798
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: with an eminent terrorist attack threat, and on the homeland

799
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: with financial chaos on the precipice of thirty eight trillion

800
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 2: dollars in debt, you know, there's a lot of fear

801
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: going on around the world and most importantly in our country.

802
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: And so what I've done, in conjunction with.

803
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: The past thirty five years of me really trying to explore,

804
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: experience and research everything that I could I could within

805
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: the human condition to try and understand what drives success

806
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: and what ultimately creates failures with teams or individuals. The

807
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: first place that I wanted to focus on was embracing fear,

808
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: because there's no such thing as fearless. Right. If you

809
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: hear somebody tell you, Oh, that person's fearless, you know

810
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: what I say to that, it doesn't exist. Right, You've

811
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: got a limbic system. We've got these three beautiful components

812
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: of your brain called the amigndalism hip campus. Those produce

813
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: stress hormones. Therefore, you have fear plus. Fear has been

814
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: integrated into our consciousness since well since consciousness began. Right,

815
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: Fear is ultimately the thing that enables you to either survive, thrive,

816
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: or die. It's just built into the whole capacity.

817
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: On top of.

818
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: That, you learn fear from the moment you're born. You

819
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: learn fear. Don't touch the burning stove, don't cross the

820
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: street without looking twice, don't go around the freak who's

821
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: trying to you know, suck you into the van.

822
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: Right.

823
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: We have all these things in our lives that are

824
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: integrated into how we process fear, how we experience fear,

825
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: how we feel fear, how fear affects us in our

826
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: daily routines. Well, after a considerable amount of time spent

827
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: trying to understand fear itself, I spent about two years

828
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: really digging into fear. I came up with the idea

829
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: that fear cannot be defeated obviously, so what do we

830
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: have to do. We have to embrace fear. So after

831
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: that two years of dedicated research and exploration into the

832
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: mindset behind fear, I began to develop what I call

833
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: my Embrace Fear Seminar. Now I've been teaching this for

834
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: well over ten years since I left the Central Intelligence Agency,

835
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: where I was both an instructor and operational and I

836
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: began teaching.

837
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: The seminar well a few years ago.

838
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: I finally decided to put it into a form for you. So,

839
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: if you have the inclination, if you have any little

840
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: bit of fear in your life, or even a lot

841
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: of fear that seems to impede your ambition, or distract

842
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: your performance, or really overwhelm your ability to operate in

843
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: a functional way in your life, then what I'm asking

844
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 2: you to do is that leap of faith and go

845
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: visit David Rutherford dot com look under courses and sign

846
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: up for your Embrace Fear course. Now, in this course,

847
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: there are five modules or I call missions. First is

848
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: to search for the truth of your fear. Right, that's

849
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: first thing, and within that there are four sub steps

850
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: that you do there. Now, this course is designed to

851
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: be take place over a four month period where each

852
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: subsetet takes one week to focus on right. And these

853
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: are journal based entries or activities that we provoke you

854
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: to do. You know, Mission number one is search for

855
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: the truth of your fear. Mission number two except the

856
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: reality of your fear. Mission number three is to retrain

857
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: your brain to deal with your fear. Mission number four

858
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: is to test yourself in your fear every day. And

859
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: then mission number five, the ultimate mission of all is

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Speaker 2: to be able to live with courage as with fear

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Speaker 2: in your life. Now, I spent a tremendous amount of time.

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Speaker 2: I've given this course multiple times to multiple organizations, and

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Speaker 2: I've worked extensively with individual professional athletes, CEOs, businesses, other

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Speaker 2: operators and people that were struggling with this profound impediment

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Speaker 2: on developing your performance capabilities, which is fear itself. So again,

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Speaker 2: if you want an excellent way to learn to live

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Speaker 2: with that fear, not only with strength, but also being

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Speaker 2: able to manipulate that perception of it in such a

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Speaker 2: way that it actually drives you forward. It becomes a

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Speaker 2: motivational tool for you to accomplish your dreams, to achieve

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Speaker 2: the things you've always wanted to achieve by learning to

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Speaker 2: embrace your fear. So go to David Rutherford dot com,

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Speaker 2: look under courses and find the Embrace Fear course. Take

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Speaker 2: five months or five weeks to accomplish this, and I

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Speaker 2: promise you at the end of this you will be

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Speaker 2: able to embrace your fear and go after the ultimate

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Speaker 2: dream in your life.

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Speaker 3: Thank you U yah

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