WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Cap Considerations

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he is Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Say, and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back,

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<v Speaker 1>heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks, but we are back. It's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Geico. Long awaited. After what has been a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy week around the state of Texas. Hope everybody once

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<v Speaker 1>again staying safe. The warmth is not necessarily the issue

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, but hopefully you were able to stay

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<v Speaker 1>warm and say through some crazy times. But we are

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<v Speaker 1>back to talk some Dallas Cowboys and to check in

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<v Speaker 1>on everyone there. Hey, Cowboys Nation. As of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big offseason for Dallas and there's plenty to reset about.

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<v Speaker 1>And after a long week, that's what we're gonna do today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna reset. We're gonna talk about what the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>top storylines are this offseason and how they can be

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<v Speaker 1>successful going in to twenty twenty one. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Yeoman's alongside Rob Phillips, heck My Harrison. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>our guy, Isaiah stand back, resident super Bowl champion as

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<v Speaker 1>always down in the bottom left hand corner. Guys, how

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing this week? Rob? You able to stay

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<v Speaker 1>warm throughout the last week? I missed you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>last Monday. Yeah, we missed you too, Kyle. What was

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature yesterday? Seventy two? So for people that don't

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<v Speaker 1>live in Texas, like, this is what we deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it might be minus two one day, might

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<v Speaker 1>be seventy two one day. But I think we're all good, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's okay now, hanging in there like a

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<v Speaker 1>hook cap and a fast lane over meging it happened, man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>negative two one day, seventy two to next. Would wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be Texas without it, you know, yep, Nope. Now this

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<v Speaker 1>has been the most popular week of weather I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we've had to experience as Texans, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the going trend is no one was ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>arctic blast that took over the metric plates or in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas period. So I am. I am loving it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's just one of those things where you see a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful day like this and you're like, well, where were

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<v Speaker 1>you a week ago. We gotta go ended up turning

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<v Speaker 1>from just like your normal I mean, not normal, but

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<v Speaker 1>out of the nowhere generational type of ice storm. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like, I mean, I was wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt and short yesterday going to the grocery store,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was just unbelievable. So yeah, the quiet ones

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<v Speaker 1>that you bought last Yeah, yeah, yeah, for surety, Now

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<v Speaker 1>I reck the grocery store and back like I did

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<v Speaker 1>to the store and back last year. That's exactly what. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been crazy, and feel free to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out if you guys still need help, and we're here

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<v Speaker 1>in need during the inclement weather and it's all there

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<v Speaker 1>how to help, how to donate blankets, codes, hats, gloves

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<v Speaker 1>plenty you can do for the community and show that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys Nation is always there to help and we've

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<v Speaker 1>known that very well over the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>and especially here in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's get away from that. Let's talk about some football.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk some Cowboys here over the next hour. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the biggest storylines this offseason are what quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>play right, contracts, garterbacks, salary caps, and rob There was

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<v Speaker 1>news the other day from the NFL that the salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap in twenty twenty one has the new floor. We

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<v Speaker 1>expected this. Teams on a Thursday memo said that the

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap floor has been increased from one seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>to one eighty following talks with the nfl PA. So

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty is higher salary cap than we really anticipated.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought it might have a chance to stay the

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<v Speaker 1>same or go down, as Cowboys fans, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great sign for the Cowboys who aren't necessarily in

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<v Speaker 1>the best place. Cowboys. Yeah, it's a little little extra

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<v Speaker 1>change in the Cowboys cushions. You know, you reach down,

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<v Speaker 1>you find a little extra five million. That's good. They

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<v Speaker 1>need every bit that they can because we know that

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about it, Kyle. The top priorities around the

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<v Speaker 1>league and in Dallas, our quarterback here, it's Dak Dak.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a whole lot of news right now. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to know if and when this deal is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get done. And obviously an extra five million helps if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, you can slot it to help pay for

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<v Speaker 1>your draft class when you have to sign those draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot the Cowboys need to work out

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<v Speaker 1>in the co weeks. What's interesting is, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL doesn't really have official dates, official official dates. We

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<v Speaker 1>know the NFL drafts at the end of April, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you know, I think teams are working off

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<v Speaker 1>of is a you know, tag window that starts tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>goes through March ninth, and then you got free agency

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<v Speaker 1>about a week later. And in that time, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys guy that find ways to create room. So

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<v Speaker 1>the raise cap floor is good, it might go higher

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<v Speaker 1>if the league decides to try to you know, kick

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<v Speaker 1>the can down the road and eat a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that salary cap space in future years when hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of this pandemic. So maybe there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>extra room the Cowboys will have to maneuver, not only

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<v Speaker 1>to slot Dak either on the tag or on ideal

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<v Speaker 1>Plus give you some wiggle room in free agency because

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<v Speaker 1>we all know they've got a lot of needs coming

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<v Speaker 1>up here. He whenever you look at this salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at kind of the situation that's at

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<v Speaker 1>hand in the NFL, it's positive that it went up.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, does it give you any

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<v Speaker 1>pause as to how the Cowboys would have to handle

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<v Speaker 1>the cap issue because of Dak Prescott, because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way these other teams, I don't know. I look around

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<v Speaker 1>the league and I see all these other organizations finding

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<v Speaker 1>ways to maneuver cap money, and I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys haven't necessarily done that. Are you? Are you still

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<v Speaker 1>hesitant on the Cowboys signing Dak Prescott to that long

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<v Speaker 1>term deal, and especially with the salary cap not going

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<v Speaker 1>up as much as it normally would. Well, I like

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<v Speaker 1>what Rob said, kicking the can down the road, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we've been doing with our salary cap for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while now. It's kicking the can down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of these things have come to ahead, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to make a decision on what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. And you know, the extra five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for the cap from seventy five to eighty is good,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're looking at a cap that's generally I think

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty was one ninety eight, So that's still

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen million dollars in cap that you've had to sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>because of COVID nineteen and no one's going to cry

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<v Speaker 1>for us because of that, but boy, we sure could

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<v Speaker 1>use that extra eighteen million dollars right now. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that they were banking on, But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to do I have pause with

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's going on with the franchise and Dak is

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, is the answer. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that when you when you say kicking the can down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. We've restructured a lot of contracts and we

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<v Speaker 1>can still do that. But it's not impossible to get

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<v Speaker 1>the Dak Prescott deal done. But it's going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to stress the hell out of your cap

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to give you a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>room to get other things that you need. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about need verse one with the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>right now, we have some bigger issues at foot with

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<v Speaker 1>our organization and that's bad contracts and you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>aging offensive line and injuries to guys that we may

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<v Speaker 1>not even see anymore and the Dallas Cowboy uniform. So

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<v Speaker 1>the priority right now, you can say, would be to

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<v Speaker 1>sign Dag. But again, when you look at your cap

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at the future, kicking the can down

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<v Speaker 1>the road, you may have to start making some bigger

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for down the road, Isn't that what's frustrating the

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<v Speaker 1>most about this situation, though, is that you had so

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<v Speaker 1>many opportunities and you still haven't figured it out. Like

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's frustrating to me. It's the fact that you've

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<v Speaker 1>kicked the can down the road and now you've run

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<v Speaker 1>out of road. It seems like, I mean, you really

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<v Speaker 1>have run out of road to kick it down. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to turn around and go to the

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<v Speaker 1>other direction. And I hate that as a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and as somebody who's been around the organization now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really a frustrating from a fan standpoint whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback like that, you have these contract issues,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it's frustrating from a players standpoint too, Isaiah.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you played in the league, You've had contract

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<v Speaker 1>negotiations more so than any of the rest of us have.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this frustrating. Is this insulting from a player's perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is something we've probably hit already, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it just continues to be so as

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<v Speaker 1>we get closer and closer than this deadline. Yeah. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously the injury to Deck did not help

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<v Speaker 1>the situation at all. M complicated things substantially. So obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>now you got the curveball, are you going to be healthy?

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<v Speaker 1>When are you going to be healthy? Are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the same player that you were? All? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have to put that in a contract so

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to prove it to us? Or are

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<v Speaker 1>we just gonna give you the benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 1>because you've been so good to us, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. So there's so many things now that are

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<v Speaker 1>convoluted um. They we're gonna have to see. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested and I'm curious to see um as to how

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<v Speaker 1>good our general manager skills are. Now, this is when

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<v Speaker 1>you find out exactly how great of a manager um

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<v Speaker 1>you have within your organization. And because you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get so creative, because you have to figure out, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new coach in, we have a general

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<v Speaker 1>manager who's been there since since since birth, and now

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<v Speaker 1>with a figure out. Okay, what's our vision for our

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<v Speaker 1>for our team? What's the vision for this organization? Do

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<v Speaker 1>we want to win right now? Do we want to

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<v Speaker 1>are we trying to win championships right now? Or are

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<v Speaker 1>we trying to set up our team for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got those two those two organizational hands that

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<v Speaker 1>are coming to coming to one and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure things out. And obviously the deck situation is the

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<v Speaker 1>most highlighted thing of them all. But there's like, as

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<v Speaker 1>you guys already alluded to, there's so many gaps, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things that need to be addressed. And you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>be eighteen million dollars short doesn't help you, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot better to be in twenty three million dollars short.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see, we'll see what happens. Man. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to see the maneuvers they're making because you see how

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive some of these other organizations are being. Um, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what our what our organizations made of. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I do too, and it is it is like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the biggest offseason for the Cowboys I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember since I've been covering the team because it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a crossroads. It's like what's your future going

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<v Speaker 1>to be and what's your outlook for your team? And

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<v Speaker 1>Heck mentioned creating room and getting creative. They can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They can, you know they can. They can slot for

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<v Speaker 1>this tag. It's it's not pretty. It's a monster number

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven point seven million if they have to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's a distinct possibility that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to do it in fifteen days or sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>days to buy more time, unless less they can figure

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<v Speaker 1>something out in two weeks. I mean, they haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>it in two years, two plus years. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>would probably have to tag him again. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that can be done. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm sure they don't want to do that because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have some flexibility in free agency. A

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<v Speaker 1>week later, but but Heck mentioned the restructures, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of speculation on what they'll do to create space.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the most logical thing. Look, they restructure Tyrann Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence last year and took all of

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<v Speaker 1>that space and saved it for this year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>NFLPA said They've got the third most unused cap room

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<v Speaker 1>carried over into this year twenty five million or so.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's good, and they can restructure more deals.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been doing this pretty much as long as I've

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<v Speaker 1>been there covering the team, and they do they just

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of you can do this forever. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>you can kick this down the road. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the back end of those deals.

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<v Speaker 1>If if a guy doesn't reach the end of his

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<v Speaker 1>deal or is not playing to the level of his deal,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've got a lot of dead money at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about twenty eighteen, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a year after they released Tony Romo, he counted nine

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<v Speaker 1>million on their cap. Travis Frederick retires in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like an eleven million dollar cap hit spread

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<v Speaker 1>over two years. So that's you know, you gotta you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta think about the back end of those things. But

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<v Speaker 1>other than cutting players, I don't know what else you

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<v Speaker 1>do to create space and still keep kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>cord your roster together and try to go win football

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<v Speaker 1>games with Dak Prescott as your quarterback. Hey, Ron, go ahead, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the other the curveball here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously we addressed it last year. Was you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're now also managing Dax Dax emotions, right, what are

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<v Speaker 1>Dax emotions? If he gets tagged? Understand, we all get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you have to tag to buy more time. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm DAK, I probably have I'm probably having my

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<v Speaker 1>foot in the ground. As like, hey, if y'all tag me,

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<v Speaker 1>uncle Drew alluded to the other day, if you tag me,

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<v Speaker 1>just no, I'm not I'm not coming back. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>just know that you know what I'm saying. Just just just

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<v Speaker 1>know it can as disrespect. You guys have had two

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<v Speaker 1>years of work on his d you know, say, I've

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<v Speaker 1>proven to you guys what my worth to this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>I've shown you guys, obviously through unfortunate the circumstances that

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<v Speaker 1>when I get injured, what happens to the organization, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to the team. Right, So if you guys tag

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<v Speaker 1>me again, just no, just know what's gonna happen on

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<v Speaker 1>the back end, right, So they have to manage that

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<v Speaker 1>as well, And that's something that's not being address obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's just talking about how oh you know they'll have

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<v Speaker 1>this much time to figure it out. Dak might not

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<v Speaker 1>want to figure it out. Dak might be on a

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<v Speaker 1>two week on a two week count down. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all got y'all have two weeks to figure this sting out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you in terms of, uh, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>if it's still the mid July deadline, that's still the

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<v Speaker 1>count of the NFL working off of and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>deal in place by then, I mean, yeah, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine he'll be back in twenty twenty two because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fifty four million dollars franchise tag or something like

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<v Speaker 1>that next year for Dak and and that's not gonna happen. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't fit that, so he would be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to hit the market. And I agree there's there's um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's pride, and there's feelings involved. Guys want long term

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<v Speaker 1>security and understandably so. UM, But I I still think

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<v Speaker 1>they all want to get it done. I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know, Um, I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they can get it done by March ninth, but

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<v Speaker 1>something's got to give here both sides to try to

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<v Speaker 1>work this out for the Cowboys to get some relief,

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<v Speaker 1>to try to build a team in the free agency

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<v Speaker 1>for Dak to get that security. Um, it's man, it's time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to get working on it. Noah, I loved

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<v Speaker 1>Rob when you said we're at a crossroads, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just gave me that visual of us in the car

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<v Speaker 1>said sitting at a crossroads and which way do we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you look at it on the cow for

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<v Speaker 1>the organization, the price for being mediocre is just getting expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that it just continues to build on. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at the bad contracts that we've we've we have

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a few of them that you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to where these guys are once they signed their deal,

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<v Speaker 1>their production depreciated, and we have these bad deals on

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<v Speaker 1>the book books. And yes, you can look back two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago where we should have gotten Dak's deal done

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been very costly not getting Dak's deal done.

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<v Speaker 1>But Isaiah, I don't know if if the organization would

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<v Speaker 1>even care, if you know, if they have to give

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<v Speaker 1>him another tag, if he's if this is gonna be contentious,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's already like, look I'm out of here. If

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<v Speaker 1>you do that, then I think that the organization does

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<v Speaker 1>that knowing full damn well that he's gonna walk in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two. So, I mean, the art of the

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<v Speaker 1>deal and the song and dance is very fragile right

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<v Speaker 1>now with the organization and his representatives. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that they can find a way to get this

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<v Speaker 1>deal done and if it's gonna be something for the

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<v Speaker 1>long haul, especially if you look at not having an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line or anything like that, look at how bad

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be if you don't have that quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>build around for the future. I think that Dak is

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<v Speaker 1>the future of the franchise. But again, if the if

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<v Speaker 1>the organization doesn't see it the same, then who the

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<v Speaker 1>hell am I I mean? Because I think he's good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to sign right now. Are are we worried? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even talking about the Cowboys when I say we,

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<v Speaker 1>I never would say we whenever it comes to the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't wear a jersey. But are we as

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<v Speaker 1>a group or as a fan base, are we worried

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<v Speaker 1>about Dak Prescott's ankle? Because are we worried about the

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<v Speaker 1>injury at all? Because if we're worried about it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the Cowboys feeling? What is the front office feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one of my things is it's been so quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's weird to me. It's it's been definitely silent

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<v Speaker 1>and you haven't heard a single thing about either side

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<v Speaker 1>of the negotiations. So is that a good sign or

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<v Speaker 1>is that a bad sign? As nothing's getting done or

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<v Speaker 1>something's about to get done, because Rob, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>giving to the point, like you said, we're getting down

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<v Speaker 1>to this deadline. It's a time clock. I mean, time

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<v Speaker 1>is ticking whenever we get to this moment, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what happens whenever it reaches zero? Yeah, I mean I'll

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<v Speaker 1>throw in one thing there too, is that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned the floor for the salary cap. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the salary cap level yet, and we may not

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<v Speaker 1>know it till after March nineth. So that's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>here is it's it's this weird offseason with the dates

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<v Speaker 1>and this crazy cap with the pandemic, and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of when you talk about a deal

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<v Speaker 1>with this magnitude, you need to know everything that you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with, and I don't think the Cowboys know everything

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<v Speaker 1>they're dealing with yet. Yeah. The ankle too, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that is another layer. You know, we've referenced that

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<v Speaker 1>on past shows where it's a serious injury. Everything we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard he's gonna make a full recovery. The Cowboys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about it. But that is another part of the

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<v Speaker 1>negotiations that I don't know that we know everything involved

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<v Speaker 1>in it because we really haven't. There hasn't been, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Kyl, hasn't been a lot of public discussion

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<v Speaker 1>since this nothing really since the season ended on any subject.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of a lot of speculation, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sources. All I know is I still feel

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<v Speaker 1>like both sides would like to get this done. I

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<v Speaker 1>just personally don't have as much confidence as I did

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<v Speaker 1>last year because I've maybe I was naive last year

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like every time the Cowboys want one

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<v Speaker 1>of these deals done, they get it done, and this

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't for whatever reason. I think you can talk about

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<v Speaker 1>both sides for you know, reasons for that um But now,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, the clock's ticking. So until it gets done,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you can say with confidence that that

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<v Speaker 1>it that it will be, and that that this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a long term deal. Heck, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it just sucks to continue to do this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the second offseason we haven't gotten yeah, third

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't gotten this done. And it becomes the same argument,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the organization looking to see to feel confident

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<v Speaker 1>in getting the deal done? And there's so many people

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to comment and say, oh, that's not worth

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<v Speaker 1>the money. And then you know, well, who else do

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<v Speaker 1>you have? Do you think that you could just go

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<v Speaker 1>into the draft and pick anybody that could come into

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<v Speaker 1>this organization and lead you to the playoffs in the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, Because this is a right now sort of

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<v Speaker 1>situation for every team in the NFL. Everybody. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a right now business. And if we're saying that, look

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<v Speaker 1>we can just go outside and get anybody to be

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback here, I think you're delusional. Dak Prescott if

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the top five. And yeah, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few guys you say their name, Pat mahomes all, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy Aaron Rodgers on down, but he's not far down

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<v Speaker 1>on that list. If there are going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys that get contracts that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the highest player quarterback in the league that don't

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<v Speaker 1>that are not on the same level as some of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys. So we can't keep moving the goalpost in

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation about Dak because anytime you have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody about Dak Prescott's contract, you sound dumb and

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<v Speaker 1>they sound dumb because no one agrees with the cap.

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<v Speaker 1>No one agrees with the cap, and no one agrees

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<v Speaker 1>with the talent. There's the difference on each level. But

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<v Speaker 1>the question is what do you do if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>sign him? Well, we sound dumb all the time. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna continue talking about talking about Dak Prescott because

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up the draft and we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this crossroads through the first segment. The draft is really

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<v Speaker 1>where that crossroad stands for me. I think that is

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<v Speaker 1>the drop dead date of this whole deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise tag and everything that's been a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've talked about this previously on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the shows. But when we come back here on Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about crossroad, what what the crossroads

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<v Speaker 1>uh his aslure lenses. We'll talk about the bows headphones

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here in the next. Hey Kyle, Hey Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? I can see to the moon in these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a symphony on my face. It's a symphony

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<v Speaker 1>on my face. That whoa whoa whoa there or not

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<v Speaker 1>or not? You're not gonna work. Okay. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that one either. I don't love if it works. Well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>throw down, we're talking cowboy talk to cowboys. Second segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep you moving on here. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and I cannot wait for that day. Heckman got ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of us and snag some before before we followed the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm jealous of the fact I wish we

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<v Speaker 1>would have followed the rules, or would not have followed

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. You got you're funny. Let's let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>those crossroads, gentlemen, because I'm gonna put you guys in

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<v Speaker 1>this in the shoes of a front office, yes, personnel

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:08.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys front office, because I think we need

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to look ahead into the future and see what's going

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen. Use those slur lenz is to look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>into the future because there's a lot going on whenever

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the draft. April twenty ninth is the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>We're less than sixty days away at this point. And

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<v Speaker 1>even though the franchise tag deadline is March ninth, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the draft is the drop dead date for the

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott contract negotiations because you can tag Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>before March ninth, which I think will happen. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most of us think that will happen, and then after

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<v Speaker 1>March ninth, you can still negotiate that contract up until

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of June. So I think there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a tag there, and whether or not there's a

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<v Speaker 1>long term deal done, it needs to get done before

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<v Speaker 1>the draft. And so we had a mail bad question

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Rob that was talking about no Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>long term deal. If there's a quarterback available at the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth overall pick, would you take a quarterback there? And

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do from that point forward? So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the crossroads. You're looking at a rebuilding of a

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<v Speaker 1>future or you're trying to to center your future around

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. Which one would it be, Robin, Which one

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<v Speaker 1>do you think would be more successful. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>juicy hypothetical, Kyle, I did you mean noodle of June

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<v Speaker 1>or middle of July to get the July excuse me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the drop dead date, get tagger or a long term deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually yes, if they keep the same schedule, the league

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<v Speaker 1>does what they always do. I it was the mail

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<v Speaker 1>back question, and I answered, yes, stick with Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>and don't worry about drafting the quarterback because I'm with

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you in that. You know, you'd like to know what

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<v Speaker 1>the deal is by the draft because you have a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten pick, and it's hard to get a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten pick. You know, you got to be pretty bad

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to be in that position. But the thing the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with me is you've invested all this time, and and

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<v Speaker 1>if you if there's still hope, if there's still optimism

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that you know, okay, it's not done by the draft,

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but we think we could still get there in two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'm not drafting somebody to potentially potentially sit for

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>five years, four years on his rookie contract as the

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback behind Dak Prescott. I'm just not ready to

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>do something like that. And sure that could blow up

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>in my face, but I would still be operating under

0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the premise that we could still have Dak as our

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>franchise quarterback. So you're sticking with Dak no matter what,

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>even if there's not a long term deal, and it

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.199
<v Speaker 1>could really put you in a situation that I know

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you said you would sit for a year, but isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that ideal with a rookie quarterback that may not be

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<v Speaker 1>ready yet aka Trey Lance North Dakota State quarterback or

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones out of Alabama. Well, I'm ease that was

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<v Speaker 1>part of that was part of the hypothetical, that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably hypothetical. Yeah, okay, okay, because that change your answer

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Dak Prescott, are you saying that's high

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<v Speaker 1>or low? Mack mom, I'm curious as to where you

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:16.919
<v Speaker 1>think that would be as No. Look, all of this

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is giving me the willies anyway. So I'm just saying that,

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, what we cannot do as an organization is

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>reach on a player. And when you talk about a

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>historically awful defense and we're talking about taking a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>at ten, I don't look, no matter where we go

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>with the Dak Prescott contract, what we can't do is

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>reach on a player at ten and we can't reach

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<v Speaker 1>on mac Jones, all respect to him, great quarterback, but

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<v Speaker 1>not do that. Huh. Ten is too high in your mind?

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely absolutely, If you're in that position, you know you

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>should start thinking about trading draft capital if that's what

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>that's on your mind. Okay, good, I'm glad you think that.

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were saying he wasn't going to fall

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<v Speaker 1>to ten, and I was like, there's no way he's

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<v Speaker 1>not there at ten. Ten would be reaching, I think

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<v Speaker 1>a read. I completely agree. I think Tim would be

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<v Speaker 1>reaching on mac Jones, and reaching on a player is

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>where I would lean on this answer too. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear Isaiah's thought process first. All right, So

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm either staying with that. I'm definitely a drafted a

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that's just not the round to go, So I'm

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>staying with that, or I'm gonna I'm gonna have some

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy, blockbuster, your Matthew Stafford type type type

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>tree that gives me a Russell Wilson or something Aboudy

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody like that. That's the only thing that's even a

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<v Speaker 1>foreseeable and that's that's a super stretch since we're doing uh,

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, just a craziness today. So yeah, I'm staying

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm staying with that, or I'm doing a crazy blockbuster trade. Okay,

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>how about I give you guys a crazy blockbuster trade.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see what you think. Here. The Miami Dolphins, who

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<v Speaker 1>currently hold the number three overall pick, the number eighteen

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>overall pick, and they have a two a Tonga Vloa

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback that they don't necessarily need any or if

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna trade for Dak Prescott, what if they gave

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<v Speaker 1>you all three of those for the tenth overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>and Dak Prescott, or they give you all three of those,

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's do all three of those four Dak Prescott alone.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you have three ten and eighteen and two

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<v Speaker 1>of What would you do? No in Miami, man, I'm

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>not doing that in Miami. I would have to do something. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to do something where I'm giving up,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, my number ten pick and Zeke to get

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>rust in here. That would be the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I could even see. I can't see anybody else that

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I would want to go grab. Isaiah wants a sure thing. Yeah,

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you get if you're gonna do If you're gonna do that,

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you have to get the sure thing right. Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a question. It's no different than Tampa. Right.

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Tampa was like, hey, screw it, we're gonna get T

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<v Speaker 1>twelve because we know what position he puts us in.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So if you pull a move like that, you better.

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>That's why why do you think that La did what

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>they did? They know Matthi Staffords a dog. They're like, hey,

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll do this. It's gonna make us look crazy, but

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>we know we're getting a dog. You know what I'm saying.

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So you just if you pull that move you have

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to have it's if a show right home. Yeah, and

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it made him look crazy for a week. Yeah. Yeah.

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So you're not interested in trading to rebuild. You're trading

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>for concrete. You're you're trading for somebody that you think

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>is going to be the dude. Is Russell Wilson the dude?

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you? Like? Are you sold on Russell Wilson? Yeah?

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not sold on him at all. You're

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>not You're not sold on Russell Wilson. That's interesting in

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>this offensive line. Though it's too short, I still think

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>he's short. What ya a look at the past? Look

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>at look at the look at the positions he puts

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 1>his in. Oh my goodness, look he's it's not a

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>troll job. I think Russell Wilson's a great right goodness.

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying. I'm saying, I don't let me. Let

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>me help you out with this quarterback thing. Okay, this

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is a myth that obviously being in the training world

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>now and obviously being a quarterback my entire levee, let

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>me just just me, just go ahead and squash this.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks don't look over lineman. You look through through throwing lanes.

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>So this whole height thing is such a myth and

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it gets way too much weight put on it. So

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>all my short quarterbacks out there, keep balling, keep killing

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it because you look through lanes. You don't look over lineman.

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sixty three. I was not looking over my six

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>five six sixth linemen. I wasn't doing it. It It didn't

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>matter if I was five. Tendn matter about sixty three. Listen,

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you throw through lanes. So if you guys there got

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>those figure out that footwork, be quick, that being quick

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>and being fast is more important to being tall. Trust me, yeah,

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I would agree that you know what to do. Kyle

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Collins start an argument. He's a professional arguer, so that's

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>what he just did. And he know that Isaiah was

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna fall for the bait, and he couldn't help himself.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But eighty six, let's come back. Let's come back a

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit, because he don't even believe He don't believe

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that either, right, he don't believe that when you when

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you talking about the Miami Dolphins scenario, and I'm with

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah on this, you know, I'm gonna go for this

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>er thing if we're gonna make if we're gonna trade

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>away draft capital, or we're gonna take on anything else,

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>especially like to and still put ourselves in a situation

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in the next three years to have to renegotiate his contract.

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go that route either, with a

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>very similar thing that you just yeah, And that's that's

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the kick in the can down the road sort of deal.

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And especially when you talk about what we need to

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>do defensively. Now, the ideal is signed back and the

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>rest it gives you a survey of the land on

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>which way you need to go. But the Cowboys are

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>in a position at ten to where they can move back.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>If let's say Seoul is gone, if the offensive line

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>before Virginia Tech is gone, if the cornerback from Virginia

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Tech and Alabama are both gone, then let's not reach

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on a player, all right. If we can go back

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>get a bar More or get a linebacker or get

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>someone like that, then let's do that. And then especially

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>when it comes down to offensive tack or defensive line.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, look, anytime you can get a big ten,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 1>anytime you can get a big ten offensive lineman, they're

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a several of those guys in the second, third,

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and fourth round. There's going to be opportunities, and even

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>for a quarterback in the later rounds, right, Kyle Trash,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm high on that guy. But you can

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>go in and you can still develop guys. I don't

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>understand how Dak Prescott is being penalized by being everything

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that you want from a fourth round draft pick. You

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>develop him, he turns out to be a player, and

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 1>this is what you get. You have to sign to do,

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and we're reluctant to do that. And we're talking about

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>two of like nah noh, Kyle's Kyle's throwing it out there.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>But going back, going back, that's just we're just throwing

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>stuff out there. Going going back to the original hypothetical, Kyle,

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>why do you feel like so if you if it's

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>not done by the draft, you're not done by the draft,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you would draft quarterback at ten. It's basically what you're saying.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I would highly if if if a guy's available that

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you like and you would have to have, you would

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>have to have somebody that you like there, or trade

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>up and go get somebody if you wanted to go,

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe get Ajton Fields or Zach Wilson. I don't know

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>how much draft capital you'd have to give to give

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>up there, and I don't know if the Cowboys would

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>be willing to do that. I think that would be

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a waste of draft capital. So I don't want to

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>trade up. But if somebody falls and you like him

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot, like a Trey Lance, I think Trey Lance

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>would probably be the more likely of the quarterbacks to

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>fall and for the Cowboys to like him, because he's

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>really similar in play style to what Dak Kreshcott brings

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to the table. But I just don't I'm with Hecma

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and what he said. It makes my gut turn knowing

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>how bad this defense is and thinking, oh my gosh,

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to try and maybe draft a quarterback

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>because that just makes me sick in the point of

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>having to use a tenth overall pick where you could

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>get a starter opposite of Trey Von Diggs. You did

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>get a starter somewhere else, and you make your better

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>and you're worried about this the only way you've invested

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 1>too much onto your offense. Look offense. So that's the

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>last position that you can have being a question that

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>has to be a solid freaking exclamation point, you know

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like that has to be either you

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>sign that or like I said, you pull something off

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that nobody else in a world that right, you bring

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody in who's up a show right on, because that's

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>all you can do now you get you turn your

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 1>your attention towards defense, or you solidify that offensive line.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>That is the only moves that should be made on offense.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Old line, that's it, you know what I'm saying. Other

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>than that is defense. Yeah, and even even old line

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, for me personally, it's like he's got to

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>be ceedee lamb, he's got to be the best guy

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on my board way better than any defensive prospect that

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>can step in and help me right away, because because

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>they need an infusion of talent on defense in my opinion.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>But absolutely, I just feel like with the quarterback thing,

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the only way you consider drafting quarterback that high for

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>me is if by the draft, like Isaiah reference in

0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the first segment, if there's emotions involved and there is

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a sense that it's just not going to happen with

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>d then then maybe you have to pivot. But unlesson

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.919
<v Speaker 1>if that's not the case and they're just not it's

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>not done yet, and again maybe it won't ever get done.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Then I'm still trying to build around Dak Prescott and

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>hope that I can figure figure something out. Yeah, Pete,

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>let me ask you this. You haven't I know you

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>y'all haven't forgot how bad our defense was last year, right,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I've not forgotten that. Okay, I watched the film. I

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>watched the film, and we were bad of d last year.

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>So even all of this talk of offensive line and

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm with new His Struggs. Man new He Struggs is

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>the guy that said, I mean, he's hanging on this

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>whole argument because man, you defensively, and historically we have

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>not been a team that has drafted safeties, and we've

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>had opportunities and free agency and all that, we still

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a safety last year. Bad safety play cost us.

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 1>But we can also go to the front of our

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>defense and say, man, up front, seven was pretty weak

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>as well, and so if we had any guys that

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>could create or manufacture any pressure on the quarterbacks, maybe

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't have been as blaring of a need. But

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Man, if you look at the NFL, you're

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>going to have to have a safety, especially in Dan

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Quinn's defense where he's playing safety high. So look, I

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>trust I think Dunver Wilson will be fine at the

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>strong safety spot, but who will we have back there

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>facilitating as a midfielder. That free safety is a huge

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>question mark, and the Cowboys having drafted one in the

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>first two rounds since what two thousand and two, Rob,

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Two thousand and two is the last

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>time they drafted a free safety or a safety and

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Roy the first couple rounds and it was Roy Williams. Yeah,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it just hasn't best. It has not been a priority

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>for them, you know, Thomas, But like, how old were you?

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Kyle was six years old last time. Oh my god,

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>drafted a safety six years old. Dang it, you're still

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>yeah what you what you that? Doug? I could have

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>baby set you man. Don't you ever? Don't you ever?

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>You baby sit me on the show. Anyways. It's fine,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>But that's another thing. I mean, whenever, what's your birth?

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>What's your birth? Here? Mighty what? And there's no recorection

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>of Michael Jordans. That's that's That's what I always go to,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>is I never saw mic play. Yeah. Yeah, even with

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>even with all of the jokes and everything, aside the

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that the Cowboys could take a safety in the

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>first or second round, it's not gonna happen at the first.

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen in ten. I'll tell you that

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 1>right now. This draft class is not strong enough to

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 1>have a safety ticket ten. But at forty four, I

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's a realistic converce, a realistic conversation depending on

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>who's there. Because there is the Richie Grants, there is

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the treyvon Mo Riggs, there's the James Wiggins. I mean,

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of guys there that could be at

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>forty four that the Cowboys could take a safety so

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 1>we may see it for the first time. How likely

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is that going to be and how highly does this

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>front office in the scouting department think these safeties are

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:19.320
<v Speaker 1>going to be held to. I don't know like that,

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a huge question mark of I don't know

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what it is. It continues with the quarterback, but it

0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>continues with the safety position and where they value that

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>heck fund. But let me ask you this though, pe

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Now now that like last year in twenty twenty, the

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>practice squad players increased, Now in twenty twenty one, is

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that going to be the same thing or where they

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>have to go back to the regular account we're practice

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>squad players because teams were hoarding their practice squad guys. Yeah,

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>that's that is a great question, because I think it

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was it was like an addendum they made to the

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>new CBA because of the pandemic. I don't I don't

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>know if that carries into twenty twenty one with a

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>with a larger practice squad. Maybe that might be something

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>they got to figure out at the spring meetings with

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the Competition Committee and all that stuff, or past rule

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>changes and all that kind of thing. Now that and

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the reason I bring that up is obviously in free

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>agency as well and picking players. This is gonna be

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>a huge offseason for Will McClay and his staff to

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to calm through those guys. Because we didn't

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>have a preseason last year, and because teams were able

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to hoard their guys and keep their talent you know,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>still on their roster. Will we be able to pick potentially,

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, good guys at the safety position, d line,

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>what have you. But I think that's going to be

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 1>important as well. I hate even having this conversation because

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it's scary because there's so many different spots that the

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys could potentially get to. Now. Last year, in the offseason,

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys had an opportunity to pick up some free

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 1>agents before the draft and kind of set their board

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go a little bit longer as well. But Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever it comes to the Cowboys in this crossroads. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked a lot about the draft, We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the salary cap. But now it kind of comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, well, the Cowboys have to do some

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<v Speaker 1>some shifting, some moving. They're gonna have to to have

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<v Speaker 1>some guys that maybe salary cap cuts. They may be

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<v Speaker 1>something in terms of and ease. What do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys and when do you expect the Cowboys to

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<v Speaker 1>start shifting this roster around, because there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things that are going to have to go

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<v Speaker 1>into the next couple of weeks. Well, yeah, I mean

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the option to restructure certain guys and that's

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>been you know, you could read about it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been speculated a lot recently. There's you know, I mentioned Tyrone,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach and Marcus. You could restructure their deals again, Amari Cooper,

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's ways you can create millions and millions of

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap space. And what you're doing is you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking a big base salary and you're dropping it way

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<v Speaker 1>down and taking that extra money and converting it too

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<v Speaker 1>signing bonus that goes on the back end. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole kick the can down the road thing and they

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<v Speaker 1>do that all the time. Teams do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think they can probably do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that and not have to do a bunch of salary

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>cap casualties like you mentioned, Kyle. No people have speculated

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe Jalen Smith. They don't. I don't think they have

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>to do that. It could be an option. Um, But

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to me, when you're looking at all of their needs,

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I would I would rather uh, knowing that you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're thin on salary cap space, knowing you only have

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of draft picks. How about Dan Quinn

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>comes in and figures out the best way to use

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith. I mean, that's that's kind of where I'm

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>at with that. Um. But yeah, they've they've got to

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>figure some stuff out. They will in terms of creating space,

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and UM, what I'm interested to see, guys is how

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated to see how this this free agency period

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 1>works around the league. How many guys are going to

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>take a bunch of one year deals. You know, is

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that going to be the thing guys betting on themselves

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and banking on everything turning around next year and try

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to cash in then and maybe you maybe you can

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 1>wind up with some impact players on cheaper deals than

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>you would think, depending on on on how guys want

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>to approach free agency this year, or maybe not. Maybe

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to sign anybody because you

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.279
<v Speaker 1>don't have any room. I don't know. I'm fascinated to

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>see it. Well, look at us, It's scenario time, boys

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and girls. So let's do this. Let's do this. Let's

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>get specific, guys. Come on, let's get dirty. We've been

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, spend two weeks and you know, Kyle almost

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>started to fight with Isaiah. But so let's get into

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>some specifics here. So if we're just in cap Hell

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and we're at the point where we're like, look, we're

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>just gonna start this whole train rode over and we're

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna reboot with some more guys than I say, everybody

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 1>last named Smith boy June first is traded a cut.

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>All right. Let you while you're thinking about whose last

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>name is Smith, then I'll tell you anybody past ninety

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, All right, any number past ninety seven, you know,

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>trader cut. We gotta get rid of, get rid of

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.520
<v Speaker 1>all of that. So basically, what you're doing is you're

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you're needing some you're needing some things on your defense,

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's where your draft and free agency is going

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>to come in. Offensive line is still gonna be a

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>problem for you because now you don't have a left tackle,

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna have to get a guy there. And

0:47:57.760 --> 0:47:59.800
<v Speaker 1>if you're telling me that you know the guy that

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>we signed last year from Kansas City can come in

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and do it, then fine, all right, then we have

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to stick with him. But you still have a problem

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>at right tackle, and no one knows when Leo Collins

0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is coming back with those moves. I think you're healthy.

0:48:11.640 --> 0:48:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Cat wise, you're able to bring in better players, maybe

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>even better, be able to get a good second string

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback from somewhere that gives you confidence. I don't know

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to start the season, but otherwise, those are some of

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the things that you're going to have to do specifically

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to turn this around ninety seven. When I when I

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>keep we're here in ninety seven, I still think a

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>taco I don't know, it's not it's not. It was

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 1>a Driffin this year and he's so that's already done.

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>And then it's above that, man Antoine Woods is above that.

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah, so I see where Hack was

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>going with it. But they're free agents. But they're free agents.

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Tyrode's a free agent, Antoine is restricted. I think I

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>thought wasn't bad. I didn't think he was that bad

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>helping you at the one text spot. I don't know. Sorry,

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, But whether dan Quinn wants him or not,

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a whole nother thing. Like we're just

0:49:03.280 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of broad stroking this thing. I want to get specific.

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Let's get down and dirty. I hear you, Um, yeah,

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not too far off from where heck is. Man,

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I be honest with you, I'm gonna look at my

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 1>entire roster, and I'm gonna say everybody who's under contract

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>right now, if I picked up the phone and called

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.320
<v Speaker 1>all thirty two teams, how many teams would trade or

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>if with any team's trade and pick up this guy's contract.

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And if if I have to debate and figure out

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>whether or not somebody else will want to pay for

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the same services I'm paying for, you might want to

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.439
<v Speaker 1>think about letting that person go. You might think about

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.440
<v Speaker 1>letting that person go. Um. And I think that's the

0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>situation that we're in right now. I mean you started

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about the last name Smith. If you picked up

0:49:40.160 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the phone right now and say, hey, you guys wanted

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>his contract? Nah nah? Right, So so, I mean, obviously

0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not all on the player. That's on some of

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that's just bad contractual agreements by by the organization. But

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 1>that's where I would start. That's where I would started,

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I was started, I would just pick apart my entire

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.320
<v Speaker 1>roster and figure out obviously this is what they're doing anyway,

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'll try figuring out who who has to be here,

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.239
<v Speaker 1>who do we absolutely need here, and who can who

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>can we bring in possibly somebody else to do it

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the zact same road that they're doing and probably do

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.799
<v Speaker 1>it for cheaper. You want to hear something that might

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>surprise might be the most surprising thing I've said today

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>on this show, which is going to be something interesting

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>for you guys to hear. But I wouldn't mind having

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty four back next year. And I'm talking about Jaylen Smith. Now.

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 1>There's two conditions here, though. One, like Rob said earlier,

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn's gonna have to figure out a way to

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>use him. I think that's bar none. That's the most

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>important thing that Dan Quinn has to figure out is

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.840
<v Speaker 1>how the hell are we using Jalen Smith. How is

0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he going to play next year? Is he going to

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>be more of a pass rusher. Is he going to

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>be somebody that's going to plug these gaps? Because right

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>now he can't change direction and he can't necessarily plug

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a gap, so he's not physical enough to do that

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>right now. I think you need to figure out a

0:50:55.040 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>way to get Dan Quinn to fix Jaylen Smith. The

0:50:57.680 --> 0:51:00.120
<v Speaker 1>second one is I wanted to restructure his contract and

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that would probably be the best way to do it.

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But I if those two things happen, would not mind

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:09.280
<v Speaker 1>seeing Jalen Smith back into Cowboys uniform. But at this moment,

0:51:09.560 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if even one of those things are

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. I just look at it, like seven high,

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.960
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars, right if I'm looking at that curb. Yeah,

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>but I mean you're you're hit. You're getting a dead

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>money hit too if you do it. I mean it's

0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 1>not it's it's not massive. But I just look at

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it like, Okay, you don't have Jalen Smith. That's another

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:28.959
<v Speaker 1>spot you go in the draft and you're like, Okay,

0:51:28.960 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 1>who's who's playing whatever linebacker position. For me, I just

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>think a more please, thank you. Yeah, he's he's a stud.

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying, I mean, we've talked. You can

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.320
<v Speaker 1>name any you can name a lot of positions on

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>this team right now and say yeah, they can use that,

0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>even in the first round, and then make a linebacker

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 1>or another one. I guess that's what you'd have to do. Yeah,

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But this is all about trimming the fat, right, right,

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>This is all about trimming the fat. So I mean, yeah,

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 1>even though you might create more voids, but you're you're

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>shedding some you're shedding some weight, right and if if

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>rich out you're ready for our spring and summer bodies

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 1>that we need we got, we gotta share some fat,

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.680
<v Speaker 1>right and become in my wheelhouse right now talking about

0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what, So even though yeah, it might create

0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 1>another problem for you, it might be it might be

0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the first step to your resolution. And that's not just

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's just not just that position. That's at a lot

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.840
<v Speaker 1>of positions. Well, yeah, go ahead. Sorry, No, I was

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:20.759
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say, you know, if you watch the Super Bowl,

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>man and you talk about linebacker play, Devin White, put

0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody on notice and so if he is the where

0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you start comparing your as your linebacker, then you have

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to start talking about Jalen Smith possibly moving to the

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>mic linebacker and moving LV to the wheel because of

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.800
<v Speaker 1>just coverage and all of that. But you're still in

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.239
<v Speaker 1>a situation when you talk about dan Quinn bringing into

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:50.440
<v Speaker 1>four three and starting to have those reminiscing about twenty

0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.240
<v Speaker 1>eighteen with these two guys, I think they're far removed

0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>from that, and so I may agree, you know that, Look,

0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you can bring it back if your restructure, but it

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:00.479
<v Speaker 1>may be time just to move on because dan Quinn

0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.399
<v Speaker 1>may not be able to salvage anything. They've moved him

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>from Mike to Will, They've they've put him at the

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. They've done a lot of different things.

0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you want to trust your eyes

0:53:11.920 --> 0:53:15.239
<v Speaker 1>or look at film on him, as Jalen says, you know,

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the numbers are there. He's making a ton of tackles,

0:53:18.680 --> 0:53:21.800
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that that production correlates into difference

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>maker on your defense, and that's what the Cowboys need. Hey,

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>don't forget. He's also been given it the title of cornerstone, right,

0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and Cornerstone, yeah, are we are we sold on Layton

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>vander Esh too, And while we're talking about linebackers, are

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.239
<v Speaker 1>we sold on what he brings to the table as

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.240
<v Speaker 1>a as a young linebacker? Is his health and issue?

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Are we seeing a decline already? Are we worried about

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.279
<v Speaker 1>fifty five moving forward? I mean not just fifty four,

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>but Rob mentioned if fifty four goes, you're gonna have

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to fill them with somebody. But same thing with Layton Vanderesh.

0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>How much of a hole is he potentially on that defense?

0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Will be your option coming up? I like, I like LV, man,

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have to if you have to

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>fight to put LB put it like this, if we

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 1>had to compare to two, right, if we had compared

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to it, you're going to keep one. I think it's

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.359
<v Speaker 1>an easy it's an easy call for me to stick

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.839
<v Speaker 1>with Lvee. That's That's no shade that Jalen at all.

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I just like the way to he approaches

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the game. And for me, that's a lot. Obviously, I

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know all the classroom stuff and all that other

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.399
<v Speaker 1>jazz that that all the intangible is that really matter?

0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:27.839
<v Speaker 1>But I like the way that LV approaches the game. Now,

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously all both of those guys need to improve, just

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 1>like every other player in this league. But I feel

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like it appears as if he's more willing to, uh,

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, to adapt, and more willing to absorb information

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 1>from coaches. Um, just when you just hear somebody, just

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.320
<v Speaker 1>when you hear them speak, right, Um, it's almost like

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Jay when Jalen speaks, it's almost like like, my stuff

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>don't stink type type stuff. So it's like that's just

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>from just from that alone, UM, I would go at

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>LV if I had to pick betweenty two. I agree,

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree that with that, but also it's it's kind

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of funny how both of these guys came into the

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>NFL with durability issues, with Laydon with the neck and

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.800
<v Speaker 1>also Jalen with the drop foot and knee issues. So

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>look at this point, and even back to what Peace

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:19.400
<v Speaker 1>said about the fifth year option, the durability issues of

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>your defense are your linebackers has got to be addressed.

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You've got to get some young studs in here that

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.879
<v Speaker 1>can get the job done. I think dan Quinn realizes

0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:30.360
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have that long of a timeline. We

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.080
<v Speaker 1>got rid of Mike Nolan on twelve months into the job.

0:55:34.239 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So you know, there's not a lot of safety for

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 1>these guys, so you gotta turn it around, especially when

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you talk about a historically bad defense and the linebacker

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:46.640
<v Speaker 1>played was so pits poor obviously with you know, bad

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive line player as well. Yeah, I'm I'm with the

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 1>guys on it. I mean, I think I think he

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>can play. I think he's he is a above average

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 1>linebacker when he's healthy. I don't want to make a

0:56:00.239 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 1>direct comparison to Sean Lee, but that's kind of what Unfortunately,

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of way it's gone for him the last

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 1>two years where I don't think he's been on the

0:56:08.080 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 1>field enough to I don't know, find his rhythm, find

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, he just hasn't looked as comfortable overall as

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>he did that rookie season when he was a pro bowler,

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's just unfortunately for him, it's just constantly been something.

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Um But I think, I think there's a good player

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I think more importantly, there's a guy

0:56:26.280 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>that really I think he has committed to being a

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 1>good football player. It's just going to be a matter

0:56:32.080 --> 0:56:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of health and so yeah, I mean, but he's got

0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 1>one year left on his rookie deal unless they pick

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 1>up his option. I don't know what they're gonna do there.

0:56:40.320 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I would think they would, but he has had some

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>injuries that you know, it's it's Raises dry brows the

0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:51.280
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years. Yeah, I mean the linebacker position,

0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.839
<v Speaker 1>at least in my eyes, is the most unstable part

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of the Cowboys defense, even though I know there are

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>worst parts of the Cowboys defense, talking about maybe the

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>cornerbacks and maybe the defensive tackles, But in terms of

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the most unstable, it would take one injury, two injuries.

0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.360
<v Speaker 1>We saw that last year to really up in the

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>entire linebackers room, and I think it's something that needs

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>to be addressed this offseason. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>address it. I don't know if you just look for depth.

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you just find a way. If

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you're Dan Quinn to figure things out. That's not my job, luckily.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 1>My job is to talk about it and ask about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do have a We did have a trade

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<v Speaker 1>in the division, and while we've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>minutes left, wanted to get your thoughts on the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Carson Wentz is no longer in the NFC East. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been traded to the Indianapolis Colts for a conditional

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<v Speaker 1>second round pick that could become a first round pick

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty much based on Carson Wentz health and then a

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:50.520
<v Speaker 1>third round pick plus Michael Pittman Junior, the Colts wide

0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 1>receiver who wore number eleven last year, was a rookie

0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 1>last year out of USC wide receiver, somebody Carson Wentz

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be throwing the ball too, said no,

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting my number eleven. You are not wearing

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<v Speaker 1>my jersey number. Carson Wentz, you come in and you're

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>just as new as the rest of us. So respect.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is do you do you like the trade

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<v Speaker 1>for the Eagles? Is it nice to have Carson Wentz

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>out of the out of the division or is this

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<v Speaker 1>a sad day for Cowboys fans that you won't have

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven throwing the ball to your team? And yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Cowboys for any twice twice a year anymore?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'll go first, Eagles suck, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love it. You know how backwards was that they

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<v Speaker 1>take on a thirty three million, thirty four million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>cap hit and they trade it Carson Wentz for a

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<v Speaker 1>black and mile and a golf bag. It makes no sense.

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the same in the same breath, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna miss him. I never thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>any good at all in the comparison between he and

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>dak As. I've always believed that dak was a better

0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.440
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and people know that as well. But you know,

0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.520
<v Speaker 1>he's out of here, and unfortunately for those guys in

0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>his division, he'll be able to serve up those hot turnovers.

0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And the wind sucks too. And you know, the Eagles

0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 1>are just gonna be in a situation where they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to bring in a bunch of talent

0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 1>because of that cap hit. And you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about teams in the NFC East and you look

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 1>at how bad things are for you, just look around.

0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can find a neighbor that is in

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.720
<v Speaker 1>worse than shape. And the Eagles are in a bad place.

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait to beat them twice this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So do we move? Do we move? Mondays? I mean

0:59:43.440 --> 0:59:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Fridays and Mondays now that we're only once a week

0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that we're doing. I miss you guys. I miss you

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 1>guys now. I think I Honestly, I think I think

0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Wins needed a fresh start. I think how he's obviously

0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>been bad for for a little while now I think

0:59:58.040 --> 0:59:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Nick Falls is better than him while while he had

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 1>his time there, honestly, but I think he needs a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh start. Man. I don't think that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of talent. I think he actually has talent. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that he's he just mentally just couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>his together. So I think that Indianappa has actually got

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty doug on good deal. Yeah, those guys, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they stole him. So I think that if he has

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<v Speaker 1>a I think if you have a resurgence and confidence

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<v Speaker 1>um with the new way, and that happens with the

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<v Speaker 1>new start, sometimes you you you remember who you were

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<v Speaker 1>at one point in time. I think that Indianappa has

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<v Speaker 1>won the deal. And in Philly, yeah they got they

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<v Speaker 1>got got, as we say in the hood. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel like, based on it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>small sample size of Jalen Hurts, but I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be pretty good. I mean, watching him for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>four starts, it was like, damn for a rookie, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a problem. He's gonna be a problem and

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<v Speaker 1>give credit to the Cowboys in December for kind of

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<v Speaker 1>keeping him in the pocket and making him uncomfortable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and for a young player, that's tough. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna get better. And I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people were thinking, maybe, you know, Eagles could

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<v Speaker 1>still draft quarterback in the first round. They could be

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<v Speaker 1>in play in the top ten to give competition. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would look at drafting an alignment or a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody to help him because I think, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I Wentz is out of the division, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance that they build around him properly

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't have, you know, all these injuries around

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<v Speaker 1>him like Wins did. I think Jalen Hurts could be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good quarterback in this division that you got

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with for a while. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that. I think you might be in the

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<v Speaker 1>minority there and you think so disagree. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you might be. Now, I don't disagree with you, though.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jalen Hurts is a winner. He's proven that

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<v Speaker 1>both at Oklahoma and at Alabama, and he got his

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<v Speaker 1>way to the Philadelphia side of things and instantly provided

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<v Speaker 1>a jolt to that offense. So we'll see if he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being the quarterback that ends up being the

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<v Speaker 1>future for Philadelphia. But right now you look at Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Wentz and just say, hey, maybe now that he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of the division, he can turn into the top notch

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<v Speaker 1>prospect he supposed to be with Indianapolis, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the Colts maybe looking for as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement for Philip Rivers. But that's going to do

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