Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It feels good to be loved.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan hans Is. I'm coming to you
Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenvalf.
Speaker 1: What is up, voees? Yo? Excited? I am feeling the
Speaker 1: love I'm feeling. Are you yelling directly into the microphone? Yo? Greg?
Speaker 1: I mean this has already gone, you know, on Instagram,
Speaker 1: somewhat viral about viral, but it's been put on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and you've seem to have learned the lesson to the
Speaker 1: Graham off my app. I don't have to watch myself
Speaker 1: do stupid things. I'm gonna do a stupid thing possibly
Speaker 1: during this show too. There's a fridge repair guy who
Speaker 1: they got a cancelation. They they're coming. Having a fridge
Speaker 1: broken during a heat wave is a problem. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to answer that phone. So I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm warning you fun. Dan's just walked off sets, so
Speaker 1: every things should be fine. Eric and I can handle
Speaker 1: it ourselves. This is this is this is life right
Speaker 1: now with pandemic Okay, you got the pandemics. Still still royal, Dan,
Speaker 1: didn't even mute as Mike, you just left the kids
Speaker 1: are the kids are starting school again and now like
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a virtual learning to this time.
Speaker 1: We mean it like you're gonna lock your kids on
Speaker 1: the computer for five hours and the NFL season starting,
Speaker 1: So it's a door, Dan, Or did you just your children?
Speaker 1: I did not beat my children. Yeah, no I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't need to mute it. I think I think
Speaker 1: our company and also all major companies that are acting
Speaker 1: as if you know, this is okay that working parents
Speaker 1: can somehow juggle full time jobs with children that are
Speaker 1: in the house seven that need now to be educated
Speaker 1: for hours and hours a day. The center doesn't hold
Speaker 1: one of them. You know. It's just something has to go,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be either the podcast or the children.
Speaker 1: I think it's a child us. Yeah, I might think.
Speaker 1: I think it's the children. The federal government has told
Speaker 1: a lot of people, um, they don't really care about them. Um,
Speaker 1: you know for much of our country's history, but a
Speaker 1: little extra during this pandemic, and children are are on
Speaker 1: the list old people don't forget about people who who
Speaker 1: else can go? Mark? You know, who else can go?
Speaker 1: Who's that You and I and Mark and Greg. We
Speaker 1: could all go. We could die. We could die from this,
Speaker 1: from the from the crushing stress of trying to put
Speaker 1: eighty two puzzle pieces together, the dumb thing. Yes, um, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're still lucky. We're very mal Assassin is starting to
Speaker 1: feel like a pretty good option. Here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: The football adds a level of like, Okay, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tricky, but in the end, if it feels good,
Speaker 1: not just because we like football, but I it is
Speaker 1: nice even though we're gonna be juggling it to like
Speaker 1: have to have like real things to talk about in
Speaker 1: real work versus like trying to make up stuff during
Speaker 1: the summer. I believe it's a good at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. Yeah, at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: You know, we have awesome jobs. And you know, boys,
Speaker 1: I am not you know, I'm not one to self mythologize.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not. I'm not one of those people.
Speaker 1: But why not share an anniverse to do what I
Speaker 1: feel like you're exactly one of those people. No, no,
Speaker 1: I would never do that, but uh, I want to
Speaker 1: share an anniversary. Uh today, ten years ago today, the
Speaker 1: old zeuser left the cold town behind to start a
Speaker 1: new life in California. I got on an eight pm
Speaker 1: flight American Airlines JFK L A X hit. I hit
Speaker 1: the reset button on everything, and here he is right here.
Speaker 1: Look at that boy. Look at that a little bit
Speaker 1: less salt in the in the hair situation there. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can see the difference. A lot has happened in
Speaker 1: those ten years, marriage, children, everything we've done here at
Speaker 1: the NFL. So despite everything, I do feel grateful today. Mark,
Speaker 1: I am still not very happy about the fact that
Speaker 1: in these ten years that we've worked together, that you
Speaker 1: had football Sundays off for the first two years of it.
Speaker 1: But otherwise, other than that, it's been a great run
Speaker 1: with you as well. I do I do. You know,
Speaker 1: we and our friendship was just sort of in its
Speaker 1: early stages then, and you were the Browns and Jets were,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure themselves out. But I would
Speaker 1: text you from the Brown's bar that I'd go to
Speaker 1: on Sundays and you would be rolling into work about
Speaker 1: that time, into what is essentially like eight bees nests
Speaker 1: put together, and I'm like, you know, floating home to
Speaker 1: have a nice Sunday and watch the late game by myself,
Speaker 1: and that put our our friendship on on rocky territory,
Speaker 1: I think early on. But Dan, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go that far. But well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we'd even be sitting here if I had, you know,
Speaker 1: on your second day of work, if I hadn't taught you,
Speaker 1: um the content management system CMS, uh, what where would
Speaker 1: you be? I mean I think that you know, set
Speaker 1: the table work, your training work on the content management system.
Speaker 1: As someone who had you know, fourteen days of additional experience,
Speaker 1: that is something I will never forget. Well, so thank
Speaker 1: you appropriate And then Greg came, and then West showed up,
Speaker 1: and you know, we were just a podcast made it
Speaker 1: very very big anyway, ten years ago today, how about that?
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into today's new show. Not even
Speaker 1: like a congratulations from Greg or like cot Well, I
Speaker 1: was noticing he can't do that thing basic things, my
Speaker 1: my congrats, was holding off on making more self mythologizing. Joe,
Speaker 1: I can't say that word. I guess it's so you can't. Okay,
Speaker 1: so good, you're a good guy, Greg. It reminded me
Speaker 1: a little bit, if it reminded me a little bit
Speaker 1: it's like whenever, like like someone on Twitter, like an
Speaker 1: actor on Twitter, will be like twelve years ago today,
Speaker 1: first day on the set on Ghostbusters four, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, okay, what is going on with it? All right,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. It's a rundown Friday. Let's hit it.
Speaker 1: I get ready from a big moment. Baby good Michael
Speaker 1: Morton and speaking of you know, ten years working together,
Speaker 1: Mark and what a long, crazy ride it's been to
Speaker 1: me still the G eight is individual scene that represents
Speaker 1: male friendship in the history of film. Is Pitt DiCaprio
Speaker 1: at Rick Dalton's home watching FBI together and just chilling
Speaker 1: on the couch. What a genius scene by Tarantino. I
Speaker 1: think that's sort of what the whole movie is about.
Speaker 1: I mean it's that to me, that's sort of the
Speaker 1: heartbeat the whole thing. And that and that was ripped
Speaker 1: from an actual FBI episode where DiCaprio is playing what
Speaker 1: was Burt Reynolds character in real life, So I mean
Speaker 1: that's a total Tarantino is um got the poster right
Speaker 1: behind me, So here we go, Here you go. Greg
Speaker 1: comments on that conversation between Dan and I, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I had a great male bonding moment watching that movie
Speaker 1: with our buddy Gonza. Of course, there's lots of you know,
Speaker 1: got you know. John Ronald Gonzalaz board mark twelve nine
Speaker 1: is an American sports writer. Was married NFL media broadcaster
Speaker 1: College Wolf. John, who was a Pisces, resides in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles with his wife and Jude dogs. Colleen was there too,
Speaker 1: and and her friends. I guess it wasn't all males,
Speaker 1: but it just felt it is a good hang movie. Watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. All right, nice Greig. Uh, we're back
Speaker 1: on track. All right, let's get into the news. Starting
Speaker 1: with some sobering news. Actually, UH Washington football team coach
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera announced Thursday that he has been diagnosed with
Speaker 1: what he terms to be a very treatable and curable
Speaker 1: form of limp node cancer. Rivera told the ESPNS Adam
Speaker 1: Schefter that he was stunned, he was angry. He feels
Speaker 1: like he's in the best best health that he's been in.
Speaker 1: But he went to the doctor because he had a
Speaker 1: lump on his neck and he got the diagnosis. He's
Speaker 1: gonna continue to coach, that's his plan. It's full speed ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh Rivera says, but now he has uh this on
Speaker 1: his plate and we wish him the best. And obviously
Speaker 1: cancer is something that's very close to this podcast is
Speaker 1: Chris Westling fights cancer for the second time in the
Speaker 1: past few years, so we understand how all encompassing that becomes.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivers are. Greg is a guy that we've already
Speaker 1: talked about on this podcast has more on his shoulders
Speaker 1: as a head coach than really any coach I ever
Speaker 1: remember since we've been doing this show, and now he
Speaker 1: has the fight of cancer in his personal life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's I can't think of a coach taking a job
Speaker 1: and then having to deal with more quickly just from
Speaker 1: an organizational standpoint, and then this personally is so separate
Speaker 1: and you you hope the best for him. It's encouraging
Speaker 1: that that the doctors told him keep working, but he
Speaker 1: did say he's gonna feel it, you know, he expects
Speaker 1: to feel it a little more in three or four weeks,
Speaker 1: and um, so I'm sure that's something that that the
Speaker 1: Washington football team is going to do everything they can
Speaker 1: to support him, and that if someone needs to step
Speaker 1: in and help him with some of his duties in
Speaker 1: that time, you know, I'm sure at least they have
Speaker 1: a little bit of plan for Jack del Rio. Is
Speaker 1: there their defensive coordinator, who, of course has been a
Speaker 1: head coach a couple of times. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't really think of of a coach that has garnered
Speaker 1: more respect um and and you know to his days
Speaker 1: as a player, uh and right into what he's done now.
Speaker 1: And it's I think it's it's so heightened and clear
Speaker 1: to see in Washington taking on, as you said, just
Speaker 1: extra rolls, stuff that head coaches in their first season
Speaker 1: typically wouldn't be asked to do. I can think when
Speaker 1: when when the Rams moved, they essentially kept Jeff Fisher
Speaker 1: around UM an extra season or two because they wanted
Speaker 1: someone who had been there just to manage that transition.
Speaker 1: Rivera is doing this all after been there for a
Speaker 1: couple of months, and like I do think head coaches
Speaker 1: probably have a tough time stepping down from their duties.
Speaker 1: And you hope that um physically, if there is, it
Speaker 1: becomes complicated that there will be a way for him
Speaker 1: to get the resty needs because you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: it personally, what it what it can do. The coronavirus too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have. You have to be a little
Speaker 1: extra worried when you're when you're at risk. The team
Speaker 1: has a quote planned b in place of Rivera does
Speaker 1: have to step away from his duties. And yes there
Speaker 1: is also a teacher bull moment in there for all
Speaker 1: of us. Rivera detected that lump, didn't ignore it, went
Speaker 1: to the doctor. We should all follow that path if
Speaker 1: you ever see something that's at a place on the
Speaker 1: old bod. You know, we talked about bods on the show,
Speaker 1: and this is talking about the body in a different way. Still,
Speaker 1: I feel like I have a lot of lumps on
Speaker 1: my body right now and it's not they're not I
Speaker 1: don't know what a doctor would say about it, but
Speaker 1: it's unpleasant to the eye, you would say, she'd say,
Speaker 1: get back on that beach body work at I can
Speaker 1: see you going to the doctor and explaining all the
Speaker 1: maladies on your body and then the doctor just being like,
Speaker 1: you're almost fifty. I don't. I haven't been to a
Speaker 1: regular doctor sort of checkup type thing in a in
Speaker 1: a in a long time. Probably advice. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: how about this? How about what just have with Ron
Speaker 1: RIVERI go maybe make that the reason to go to
Speaker 1: the doctor, Well my doctor again, it is going to
Speaker 1: be female assassin, and it's there's it's prevalent, and it's
Speaker 1: so it's you know that doctor's appointments are now virtual too.
Speaker 1: They're not letting you in or their requesting don't show
Speaker 1: up right now, which which makes sense. So you're looking
Speaker 1: you're looking for more of a Cavorkian is what you're saying,
Speaker 1: essentially to bring in Norway. Like if if Mark suddenly
Speaker 1: leaves for Norway, will have to be a little worried. Uh.
Speaker 1: In other news, a certified trope alert down there in Tampa,
Speaker 1: Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians Trot. Trot believes that Rob Gronkowski,
Speaker 1: the version that they're seeing right now in Florida, the
Speaker 1: version that Tom Brady successfully lured out of retirement after
Speaker 1: one year, is the same guy who is the greatest
Speaker 1: tight end of all time in New England years ago,
Speaker 1: the guy that has all these records and Super Bowls
Speaker 1: and all that um years lay it or at age
Speaker 1: thirty one with a body like an operation game board,
Speaker 1: and after a year out of the game, Arian says
Speaker 1: he's totally rejuvenated. And the guy that's on the team
Speaker 1: now is that all time great Mark, are you buying
Speaker 1: this or is this a certified trop Allert? Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, I think that the trope Lady Um is
Speaker 1: not exactly a nine to five grinder. She probably does
Speaker 1: about two hours of work over the course of an
Speaker 1: entire year on this show. But she does a nice
Speaker 1: job with it, and she's very consistent. I'll start right there,
Speaker 1: um pleasant voice, but I do. But here's why I
Speaker 1: buy it. If you put Gronk like on The Bears
Speaker 1: or you know, the Chargers, I'd have questions. But he's
Speaker 1: paired with Brady, and he's basically talked about the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, Guerrero and Brady have been working with
Speaker 1: him closely and he's changed his diet and this stuff
Speaker 1: has worked for Tom Brady. And Tom Brady and Gronk
Speaker 1: like the fact that they're paired together. I buy the
Speaker 1: idea that his body is healthy and they're gonna produce
Speaker 1: right away because they're like peanut butter and jelly. I mean,
Speaker 1: these two just know each other. Why buy it because
Speaker 1: you can see it in the little clips people. I
Speaker 1: mean it's funny. You would think you can't get anything
Speaker 1: out of these running on air clips. But it's like
Speaker 1: Robert Ronkrowski couldn't move, you know, the last time he
Speaker 1: was on the field, and he couldn't move in some
Speaker 1: of those training camps either. Like it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: showed up and people were like, oh, gronks back. It
Speaker 1: was like he never really recovered in the last couple
Speaker 1: of years of his career from the cascade of those injuries.
Speaker 1: Now that said, he hasn't played football yet. I mean
Speaker 1: there hasn't been real hitting and probably the biggest decline
Speaker 1: I saw in Rob Gronkowski in his last season was
Speaker 1: as a blocker, where he was no longer a difference
Speaker 1: maker um in terms of his blocking, although he was
Speaker 1: out there and he gives you flexibility. I think the
Speaker 1: back injury really came into play there. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to watch him play a real fifty snaps in
Speaker 1: a game and do that a few times and see
Speaker 1: how he holds up. Then I do buy though that
Speaker 1: he is moving better. He has to be. I think
Speaker 1: he is, and he and he said it, he says
Speaker 1: I I think he It makes sense a year from
Speaker 1: away from the game, and it sounds like he worked
Speaker 1: out harder with the w W E and with the
Speaker 1: brady stuff than than he probably was beforehand, he said.
Speaker 1: He basically admitted he didn't work as hard as he
Speaker 1: could have working out beforehand. Dan's not buying it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not buying it right now. Part of you not
Speaker 1: want to buy it even if you are. I have
Speaker 1: no problems with Gronk. What do I what does Gronk
Speaker 1: doing well? How does that affect me? Negatively? I have
Speaker 1: no problem with it. But the fact of the matter
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, you could look great running around in
Speaker 1: shorts in August, but the body is gonna that body
Speaker 1: is gonna be cranky again once he gets tackled a
Speaker 1: few times and uh meet some crushing blocking assignments. And
Speaker 1: it is the reason why we roll out trope alerts
Speaker 1: on this show is because it's legit and it usually
Speaker 1: does hide the reality. And the reality is that this
Speaker 1: trope is coach colon, aging veteran with history of lower
Speaker 1: body injuries actually as good as ever that's not possible.
Speaker 1: That never happens. So we'll see. And if you guys
Speaker 1: want to put uh your sandwiches where your mouth is,
Speaker 1: I'd love to do some statistical um not in this one,
Speaker 1: because to me, it's not the lower it's the back.
Speaker 1: It's the back of the neck. And that when when
Speaker 1: you were a fan of the Patriots watching Gronk, every
Speaker 1: time he got tackled from behind on his back, you
Speaker 1: just you held your breath, and half the time he
Speaker 1: did get hurt. I mean that is always how he
Speaker 1: got her is someone kind of tackling him, jumping on
Speaker 1: his shoulders because he's not going down, and that's it.
Speaker 1: And then he's not the same the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: So and I can see it. I could say, have
Speaker 1: two other good tight ends there or ones that they
Speaker 1: could service. You could use a lot. And I don't snaps.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're talking about the fact that he
Speaker 1: could have the third fewest snaps of the tight ends. Well,
Speaker 1: Peter King, Peter King speculate that. I'm just saying, but
Speaker 1: I would imagine behind Howard, like if Howard is healthy, Um,
Speaker 1: I think they'd be smart not to use Gronk seventies right,
Speaker 1: The idea that you would phase out someone's talented as O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard because old man Gronks back in town. There's a
Speaker 1: way to make this work while you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: give up on O. J. Horroard because he had a
Speaker 1: bad twenty nineteen. All right, Well, meanwhile, on the throne
Speaker 1: of sleeves Grons Old team, Jared Stidham is having a
Speaker 1: rough camp. He is right now battling injury. It's discomfort
Speaker 1: in his leg, is how it was explained by rap sheet.
Speaker 1: He's also been throwing the ball all over to the
Speaker 1: place and practice, including the guys on the other side
Speaker 1: um of the field on defense. So Stidham struggling with
Speaker 1: turnovers and practice and now battling a leg injury all
Speaker 1: good news if you're a Cam Newton fan. Mark, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I get that there's been this talk about
Speaker 1: you know who's going to start, and they start multiple quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: To me, it's a stunting upset if Cam Newton, even
Speaker 1: even if you remove the interceptions, isn't your Week one starter,
Speaker 1: and and and continues on that way. I that that's
Speaker 1: just where I'm sitting. I don't like that. There are
Speaker 1: things that I just don't need to pay that deep
Speaker 1: attention to in training camp with no preseason games, and
Speaker 1: it's stuff like this. I mean now, I mean Stidham
Speaker 1: to me is a project, and so far the project
Speaker 1: is not going very well, right, I think it's not
Speaker 1: surprising after you know, not having O. T A s.
Speaker 1: They come out there and they're going up against the
Speaker 1: best secondary in the league that you know, you can
Speaker 1: pick that you can guess which team offenses are all
Speaker 1: getting the bad reviews in camp. The Jets are another
Speaker 1: one where it's like the offensive talent doesn't match up
Speaker 1: with the experience and the talent of the defense. And
Speaker 1: there's a few others around the league like that. Doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me that Stidham, Hoyer and Cam, you know, hasn't
Speaker 1: looked that great. Stidham supposedly has been throwing the nicest ball,
Speaker 1: but he's been throwing it to the other team, you know,
Speaker 1: seven times. McDaniels, Josh McDaniel said, Stidham's practicing next time
Speaker 1: they're in full pad. So I I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: really that can The injury doesn't really matter that much
Speaker 1: as much as he would have to play so well
Speaker 1: in camp and show that he was so far ahead
Speaker 1: of Cam to play him ahead of Cam, and he's not.
Speaker 1: He's a second year fourth round pick right now. ESPN
Speaker 1: is my Reese believes that none of the Patriots quarterbacks
Speaker 1: have quote flashed and summer practice so far. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't put anything into that, like, yeah, do I think
Speaker 1: my Jets are going to the Super Bowl this year? No?
Speaker 1: But am I freaking out because the offense? I mean,
Speaker 1: all offenses are going through it right now. It's especially
Speaker 1: part of the machine here, right there's just two. There's
Speaker 1: so much more to to to learn and grasp in
Speaker 1: variables on offense than there isn't for most defense. I
Speaker 1: want to know how Cam throwing the ball. I want
Speaker 1: to know how Cam's throwing the ball. The fact that
Speaker 1: Reese said, and I've seen it twice that you know,
Speaker 1: if you just look at who's made the best throws,
Speaker 1: who's got the best arm, you know, has had the
Speaker 1: best plays in the passing game, it's been Stidham. That
Speaker 1: makes me wonder, how is Cam throwing the ball? How
Speaker 1: does his arm look? Because that is the bigger concern
Speaker 1: to me, not the toe and the foot injury that
Speaker 1: he had last year. We still haven't really seen him
Speaker 1: rip it um for a long time since that shoulder surgery,
Speaker 1: and that that's what I am most concerned about, at
Speaker 1: least as a path I guess I'm confused in for
Speaker 1: people that study the game, and no like to say
Speaker 1: that Yard Stidham is throwing the ball well when he
Speaker 1: is like seven interceptions and four practice like you could
Speaker 1: throw a spiral, Like, okay, I could throw a spiral. Point.
Speaker 1: I think the point is, you know yet he's been
Speaker 1: making the biggest mistakes. But if you picked out who
Speaker 1: has had the best pass plays in camp, they've almost
Speaker 1: been all Stidham too. So it's like, it's not it's
Speaker 1: ugly there, he's like he's a bad jamis. It's also
Speaker 1: it's also, as you mentioned, I don't know what to
Speaker 1: put into these practices. I also don't think it's a
Speaker 1: bad thing not to have preseason, but uh, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: this now. It's like, it is it that big good deal?
Speaker 1: I think it's fine. Well to the guys at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the roster, it's a big deal, um, all right.
Speaker 1: In other news, the Melvin Ingram standoff and in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles feels like it's coming to a close. We'll see.
Speaker 1: But Ingram signed an adjusted contract yesterday, according to Mike
Speaker 1: Garafolo of NFL Network, with the team that guarantees this
Speaker 1: year's salary. According to sources, and according to Mike, this
Speaker 1: was a driving force in Ingram's return to practice, and
Speaker 1: he added that we'll see what it means regarding his
Speaker 1: push for a contract extension. We talked about this on
Speaker 1: Wednesday show. He's thirty one, coming off not a game
Speaker 1: breaking type season. Joey Bosa just got the biggest defensive
Speaker 1: contract ever, So I think his future in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: very murky. But this feels like greg a move that
Speaker 1: they made that gets him back on the field and
Speaker 1: back to business. Yeah, it's a little love for a
Speaker 1: guy who has done a lot of great work for them.
Speaker 1: It's also ultimately not promising much other than you're gonna
Speaker 1: make the team, which you would have in that if
Speaker 1: Coronavirus cancels, games will still pay you, so that's a
Speaker 1: little extra. I do think it's directly related to Bosa.
Speaker 1: You know, your buddy gets all this money, um, and
Speaker 1: then you want a little It happened with us when
Speaker 1: Mark got that monster guaranteed past, guaranteeing him forty million
Speaker 1: over the next four years. We all were like, hello,
Speaker 1: who was a word? Well, it caused a rift, um,
Speaker 1: But I mean I think they went they went in
Speaker 1: the right direction with the initial salary bum heading towards me.
Speaker 1: That didn't make West very happy. He's always been squawking
Speaker 1: about the money. But um, you know you're right. I
Speaker 1: also don't. It's pretty clear to me on the Melvin
Speaker 1: front that they don't. They don't really want to give
Speaker 1: him an extension. I mean right, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: they want to see how the season goes at best.
Speaker 1: You know, it was the best part though, Mark, when
Speaker 1: you took that massive extension and you gave every dime
Speaker 1: so the Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood, Like
Speaker 1: that showed me you were a man of character. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I would surprise you that I
Speaker 1: would do that. It sort of just seems to be
Speaker 1: right in the in the sort of character that I would.
Speaker 1: I would. That's how I use my money, Just give
Speaker 1: it all the way to other people. Not my own children,
Speaker 1: but other children and the Boys and Girls Club and
Speaker 1: uh no ho as they call it, right, your children
Speaker 1: are using old shoe boxes of shoes, but those kids,
Speaker 1: and they won't even let my children into that Boys
Speaker 1: and Girls Club, which I found to be uncivilized. Like
Speaker 1: let I mean money named it after you, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Club of North Hollywood and Luke and
Speaker 1: Colin got turned away at the door. Yeah, it's not right.
Speaker 1: We're working on that all right. In other news, kJ Hamler,
Speaker 1: the rookie wide receiver UH is out a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks for the Broncos. Not good with a hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: And of course, the way the season is barreling towards
Speaker 1: us now less than three weeks, a hamstring injury UH
Speaker 1: really puts his Week one availability and doubt. And like
Speaker 1: you mentioned the Jets and Denzel Mims, their wide receiver
Speaker 1: they're very high on, who also pulled a hamstring. When
Speaker 1: you take a rookie off the field and this offseason,
Speaker 1: especially during this portion of the season, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very tough, you would think for Hammler to find a
Speaker 1: role early on in and he was a big part
Speaker 1: of the reason people were so excited about the speed
Speaker 1: of this Broncos offense. They still pretty good depth. But
Speaker 1: that's taken away one piece. And you said it just
Speaker 1: this year more than any I mean, hamstring injuries have
Speaker 1: in camp have crushed rookie receivers. I feel like every year, um,
Speaker 1: and it just feels like it's going to be doubly
Speaker 1: true this year and we're getting so little news. I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the reason why, Like it's not
Speaker 1: a fiery rundown right now, there's no preseason. That's part
Speaker 1: of it. But I think it's because there's no access.
Speaker 1: I think there's stuff happening out there that you don't
Speaker 1: know about because people aren't in the building. You're only
Speaker 1: getting these zooms, so you only know what the coaches
Speaker 1: tell you. And for them to tell you he's out
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, that means it's quite serious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the position at least want um to see
Speaker 1: a player tagged with a hamstring injury because at wide
Speaker 1: receiver it gets it becomes like February March and that
Speaker 1: wide receiver that had that early season hamstring pull tells
Speaker 1: you all affected, infected my entire year, and we saw
Speaker 1: with Odell Beckham he came back and was fine. But
Speaker 1: I mean, these things can linger. And I think you're
Speaker 1: greg your point that, um, we don't really need the
Speaker 1: preseason from our angle, not the young players. Coaches would
Speaker 1: love for this access to never or grow anything beyond
Speaker 1: where it is right now. Their loving this so this
Speaker 1: is their dream land, you know, and how can they
Speaker 1: go back to That will be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: they go back in the media front. And then how
Speaker 1: do they go back to three preseason games? I really,
Speaker 1: I really, I guess they can't renegotiate that. I feel
Speaker 1: like going back to two feels like that's that's perfect.
Speaker 1: Going back to three seems crazy. Next year, Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: is the best case scenario for this type of thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been doing this long enough. I remember
Speaker 1: his rookie season. He yanks his hamstring at Giants camp
Speaker 1: because the guy's always hurt, and he is out the
Speaker 1: entire first month of the season. And then he gets
Speaker 1: back and he's so incredibly talented. He's still let let
Speaker 1: the league on fire. But unless you're at that kind
Speaker 1: of level of a talent, it's very difficult to find
Speaker 1: your role. What are you smirking for? Mark? No? I
Speaker 1: remember like people being really down on Beckham before they
Speaker 1: saw him play because of that injury. Why isn't this guy?
Speaker 1: Guys always hurt? And I have to watch all these
Speaker 1: social media clips this week. Oh look at Odell. He
Speaker 1: just leap frogged over his own linebackers. Like that's why
Speaker 1: Mark smirkin Well, Like, while while O'Dell is, you know,
Speaker 1: walking on water this August. Let's just hope he doesn't
Speaker 1: pull a hammy doing that. You know, it's just like,
Speaker 1: I want to see this guy but play sixteen games
Speaker 1: you and you and Odell Beckham have never felt like
Speaker 1: the like a road trip pairing that would work out
Speaker 1: very well. There just seems to be some heat between
Speaker 1: you guys. But Beckham also played wire to wire through
Speaker 1: injury all last season. I mean, do we give him
Speaker 1: any credit for that or does that get where does
Speaker 1: that play into the equation? You get more credit if
Speaker 1: you play well. Unfortunately, yea thousand yards season while injured. Okay, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: a lot of drops here, it was. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: with the Odell and Beckham injury is very confusing to
Speaker 1: me because when you watched, especially at the end of
Speaker 1: the season. I wouldn't watch his last five Baker games.
Speaker 1: Oh that was open all the time, and he had
Speaker 1: a ton of drops and he didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: He was bad on contested catch. So the whole part
Speaker 1: of him being injured was confusing because the biggest problem
Speaker 1: you had, I thought, was like he wasn't on the
Speaker 1: same page and he couldn't come down with passes in
Speaker 1: the past then he did. Maybe that is the hamstring,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't like he didn't have opportunities. But that's
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. Let's move on from there. That's in
Speaker 1: the past. Speaking Wait, hold on, it's the fridge. I'll
Speaker 1: be back in speaking of bye bye, Greg. Um. You
Speaker 1: know the top of the show, Mark when Greg, you know,
Speaker 1: you just you want to have that moment where we're
Speaker 1: all sharing it. It's like ten years ago, I moved
Speaker 1: here and we've been on this roller coaster ride together,
Speaker 1: uh for the past eight years, and you just wanted
Speaker 1: him to be involved with the conversation. But it just
Speaker 1: didn't seem like we could get him to engage there.
Speaker 1: He seemed a little reticent. I'd like to dig deeper
Speaker 1: into why that, Why that was? Um, I think the
Speaker 1: findings might be unpleasant to to you and uh maybe
Speaker 1: to me also and potentially to Erica. So I don't
Speaker 1: maybe we don't take deeper into that. Ricky, what do
Speaker 1: you think? What do you make of that? I think
Speaker 1: it was clear as day. Unfortunately you guys. Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like Mark said, I don't I don't think you should
Speaker 1: dig deeper into it, because it doesn't go very deep.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't like you, guys. Yeah, it seems it
Speaker 1: seems rather evident, like there's no warm feelings about the
Speaker 1: last care if you've been there for ten years, I
Speaker 1: think to us, to us, seems he'll be fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right. In the other first round, brag is back.
Speaker 1: In other first round news involving wide receivers, Marquise Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown is poised for a big second year with the
Speaker 1: Ravens and he's you know, made some headlines. Greg, you
Speaker 1: mentioned it on a podcast earlier. Uh, this summer, he
Speaker 1: gained twenty twenty three pounds. He built up twenty three
Speaker 1: pounds uh in the NFL off season. That's almost like
Speaker 1: the entire weight of my three year old child. Um,
Speaker 1: And you would think that this would be First of all,
Speaker 1: you worry about his hamstrings and every other part of
Speaker 1: his body. But also if you're curious, Mark, I know
Speaker 1: you're very plugged in on diet and what you put
Speaker 1: into your body and actually just the sweet Starting this
Speaker 1: week my own training camp, I've really been cleaning it
Speaker 1: up and I'm trying to keep the calorie and take
Speaker 1: below two thousand, which is You know, when you start
Speaker 1: like trying to track these things, realize how easily you
Speaker 1: give away calories. But that's my situation. A guy that's
Speaker 1: trying to drop weight, Mark, he's around, is trying to
Speaker 1: gain weight, and he was on a four thousand calorie
Speaker 1: diet this offseason. And here is the diet you ready, Mark,
Speaker 1: take note if you want to bulk up breakfast. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I know these this is a trope
Speaker 1: in its own right that these stories pop up, But
Speaker 1: I always like just seeing what these guys are eating.
Speaker 1: Breakfast seven thirty am four boy old eggs and oatmeal. Snack.
Speaker 1: Nine am protein shake and two table spoons of peanut butter. Lunch,
Speaker 1: Noon a protein either steak, chicken or lamb with rice,
Speaker 1: potatoes and greens. Snack. Two pm Damn snack in the
Speaker 1: honor of Rex Ryan protein shake, ten ounces of almond milk,
Speaker 1: one banana, and two table spoons of peanut butter. Dinner,
Speaker 1: five PM early dinner, another protein again steak chicken or
Speaker 1: salmon with rice, potatoes and greens. And then seven thirty
Speaker 1: pm finally one more snack, another protein shape, ten ounces
Speaker 1: of almond milk, yogurt and two table spoons of peanut butter,
Speaker 1: and that's how you get and then you work out
Speaker 1: like a maniac and you're you're like a almost hilariously
Speaker 1: gifted physical specimen. You can gain twenty three pounds of
Speaker 1: muscle that way. That's that's just a bodybuilders regiment. I mean,
Speaker 1: so there's gotta be, you know, periods of lifting in
Speaker 1: between all that. I don't know, you know, I think
Speaker 1: that it probably would if I tried that diet, it
Speaker 1: would do an absolute job on the intestine an old tract.
Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work out, but that's
Speaker 1: that's how you put those pounds on. That's how you
Speaker 1: do it. Imagine at five am, no, thank you, I
Speaker 1: think I could give it a give it a go.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'd have to downsize it a little bit here
Speaker 1: and there. But by the time you got to the
Speaker 1: the nine thirty or the third protein shake with the
Speaker 1: extra two table spoons of peanut butter and and almond milk,
Speaker 1: and that's the third time today, and you just date
Speaker 1: like your second stake and you'd just be like stuffing
Speaker 1: it down in that peanut butter and on will would
Speaker 1: be like coozy, not your greg. You sound like a
Speaker 1: perfect person to sponsor this type of plan. You know,
Speaker 1: we've never had it. We've never had a meme on
Speaker 1: this show yet something that really broke through. Greg. You
Speaker 1: spoon feeding your the peanut butter into your mouth. I
Speaker 1: think that could do it. That's two shows in a
Speaker 1: row where you've created a Greg with You know you're
Speaker 1: a meme generator. Lately, well, I feel you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about it. I think it was earlier this year.
Speaker 1: When you want social media advice, you just come to me.
Speaker 1: You know that's true. Triple g uh. And finally in
Speaker 1: the news, bad times for Thom Brenneman. I think he
Speaker 1: goes by Tom, but I mean T H O M.
Speaker 1: And you want me to call you Tom. At a
Speaker 1: certain point, you need to make the choice. You're right,
Speaker 1: that's not what we're focusing on here. Red's broadcaster and
Speaker 1: West has been listening to this guy and watching this
Speaker 1: guy for decades as a Cincinnati Reds baseball fan. But
Speaker 1: Tom Brenneman suspended from working Cincinnati's games after using an
Speaker 1: anti gay slur on the air on Wednesday night, prompting
Speaker 1: the team to apologize for what they called a horrific
Speaker 1: homophobic remark. Which it was, and promptly, uh, Fox about
Speaker 1: twelve hours later announced they were pulling Tom off the
Speaker 1: air on NFL Sundays. And you know, once this story
Speaker 1: is out there and it's one of the all time
Speaker 1: broadcasting gaffs uh that I remember to do that live
Speaker 1: on the air and say what he said. But when
Speaker 1: they were giving his background, I was stunned to see
Speaker 1: that Brenniman, Fox stole CBS, stole the NFC coverage from
Speaker 1: CBS in and it was a landmark thing Fox getting
Speaker 1: into the broadcasting game. And Tom Brenneman was on the
Speaker 1: first group of teams in ninety four and he's been
Speaker 1: there the entire time since. So you guys can do
Speaker 1: the map there. I mean, the guy has been a
Speaker 1: staple there. Um. So with Brennaman out for this season
Speaker 1: and likely beyond that, I thought this would just be
Speaker 1: a good time to take a look at where we're
Speaker 1: at with the Fox teams real quick, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: through the Fox teams. And if you don't follow this
Speaker 1: as closely as we do, because we kinda are way
Speaker 1: into this because we're just these teams mark right, They're
Speaker 1: just so they become a part of our life for
Speaker 1: four months, especially if you're for your job, you're trying
Speaker 1: to watch all the games. You can't get away from
Speaker 1: these guys. They better be pleasant. Yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: for more than four months, for ten years, in some
Speaker 1: cases fifteen years. I mean you can hear their voices
Speaker 1: in your head if I say Pat Summer all, Uh,
Speaker 1: you can hear his voice if you think about it
Speaker 1: in your mind right now. I mean, that's that's good. Rights,
Speaker 1: that's that's good, And that's the good teams. There are
Speaker 1: a couple of teams and you can get into it.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are certain teams that um lessen my
Speaker 1: enjoyment of some games. Uh, you know, they're not all creative.
Speaker 1: E Tom was one of those for a while. I
Speaker 1: mean at some point last year I almost got to
Speaker 1: the point that I thought they were so bad. They're good,
Speaker 1: but he's such a blowhard. He's so opinionated and knows
Speaker 1: so little that it almost cracks me up. And he's
Speaker 1: with Chris Fieldman, who I like, and it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: But the two of the off each other where we're
Speaker 1: insane so good ridden Greg takes the tas we talked
Speaker 1: about it, We talked about him on this show before this. Yes,
Speaker 1: so here are the team, just just for posterity. Uh.
Speaker 1: The A team is Joe Buck Troy Aikman since two
Speaker 1: thousand six, that's been the team with Aaron Andrews as
Speaker 1: the sideline reporter. The B team, which I believe to
Speaker 1: be solid as well, Kevin Burkhardt, Darryl Johnston and Pam
Speaker 1: Oliver because Charles Davis CBS Burkhart underrated. I like Burke
Speaker 1: Haart a lot. Burkhart's great. Yeah. The third team, this
Speaker 1: is interesting. Kenny Albert, who's solid. Jonathan Vilma is that new? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who was Albert working with last year? Does anybody recalled?
Speaker 1: I think Randi Barber m. Kenny Albert was Marve Albert's
Speaker 1: younger brother, and I realized I learned more recently than
Speaker 1: I should have, that it's his son. Yeah. I always
Speaker 1: Kenny Albert has been around for a billion years and
Speaker 1: it's his son anyway, That is stunning to me. I
Speaker 1: always thought it was mean. Is like, you know he's
Speaker 1: been he's still in top form, or or at least
Speaker 1: close to it considering, but yeah, I think he's approaching
Speaker 1: his eighties or maybe you know, he is late seventies
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, So Albert and Vilmo will
Speaker 1: be interesting to hear how Vilma does this season. I
Speaker 1: thought they were really good on ESPN as a you know,
Speaker 1: studio guy, but I haven't heard him out a game.
Speaker 1: As they'll have rotating sideline reporters and sideline reporters. Is
Speaker 1: that going to be a thing this season? Probably know?
Speaker 1: They actually announced that they that NFL Network reporters, I
Speaker 1: mean all sideline reporters are barred from barred from the
Speaker 1: field during games for the two the entire season, all right,
Speaker 1: So thom was with Spielman as we said, and Shannon
Speaker 1: Spake was the sideline reporters. So Shannon, I guess it
Speaker 1: is not involved or will have a different role from
Speaker 1: out of the mix. So they got a plug they
Speaker 1: could potentially um mix in with one of their other teams.
Speaker 1: They have Chris Myers uh and a booth mate to
Speaker 1: be named later. Wasn't Myers with Barbara I always tried
Speaker 1: to mute that channel. Yeah, that's not my favorite. Um
Speaker 1: And then the final team is Dick Stockton, Mark Flare,
Speaker 1: and Jennifer Hale. So we'll see what Fox does. They
Speaker 1: have some they have a notable hole to fill up
Speaker 1: to play by play spot for their d team. I mean,
Speaker 1: Dick Stockton has been doing games since about nineteen. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know our guy Peter Schrager loses that sideline work
Speaker 1: that he's excellent at. Wonder what they'll They'll probably come
Speaker 1: up with some other work around, I like kind of
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Maybe they'll do it in the you know,
Speaker 1: in the walkways, like under the stadium. I don't know,
Speaker 1: they'll probably come up with something. But like listening to
Speaker 1: that group, you no offense to Dick Stockton and thom
Speaker 1: and Chris Myers, Well, I guess some offense. Let's get
Speaker 1: some new blood in. I mean, I know it's a
Speaker 1: difficult job, but some of these guys football is not
Speaker 1: their main sport. There's a sense of punching the clock,
Speaker 1: like we can find the next generation of people, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, there's no feeling they've been around forever.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm with you. It might be the old
Speaker 1: Damaschek thing, which maybe it's changing now. But damascheck was
Speaker 1: always mystified that we couldn't find thirty two people on
Speaker 1: the planet who can play quarterback on a high level. UM,
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe a tougher jobs, and we I mean,
Speaker 1: we're giving it respects saying it's a tough job. But
Speaker 1: I think it's even tougher than that. The guys that
Speaker 1: can do it, you know, call out immediately who the
Speaker 1: player is, have an understanding of the game and a
Speaker 1: knowledge of the teams to be able to talk for
Speaker 1: three to four hours. I have something for people that
Speaker 1: do it well, honestly, because I think Greg, We've talked
Speaker 1: about this hundred times, that Gregg is good at you know,
Speaker 1: this is happening, this flag was thrown, or you know, oh,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton just let eight seconds go off the clock
Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter. Greg's having a
Speaker 1: hissy fit over it. I don't know why at all.
Speaker 1: Like I just watched the games and I'm sort of
Speaker 1: like I bathe in the in the overall environment of
Speaker 1: the game, and there are nuggets things I see, but
Speaker 1: I need to kind of sometimes stop pause and see
Speaker 1: what's I'm just not great at like instant else. If
Speaker 1: someone put me on play by play, that broadcast would
Speaker 1: be an absolute disaster to the person. Box should not
Speaker 1: reach out to Mr Cesler. I'm not the new blood
Speaker 1: that there that they should be seeking at all. Sideline
Speaker 1: reporter also a tougher job than people realize. You gotta
Speaker 1: track down pr people to get injuries. I mean, these
Speaker 1: jobs are they look easy and they're not easy. All right,
Speaker 1: Well put mark, that's what's happening in the news. Greg
Speaker 1: is thinking I could do play by play. That's why
Speaker 1: he did not know. I'm terrible. I did do color
Speaker 1: on college television that tu lane for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I could never do play by play. Throw me in
Speaker 1: the color. That'd be fun. But I did that a
Speaker 1: little bit that I would never it would be terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's well, it looks like according to Wikipedia, Chris Myers
Speaker 1: needs somebody to do color with him this year. Well
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, just just get like the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and names. Right, come on, let's get Mike Burke
Speaker 1: Wits on the phone. See if we can get you
Speaker 1: on the on the E team for Fox this year
Speaker 1: like that. I gotta start somewhere, all right, what's up,
Speaker 1: Burco If you're listening, all right? That is it? Hey again. Reminder,
Speaker 1: the show on television is tomorrow Saturday, NFL Network around
Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast, which is a detailed rundown if everything
Speaker 1: happened there it is in the week that was, and
Speaker 1: we have we're having a lot of fun doing that.
Speaker 1: We tape it actually right after today's broadcast, so if
Speaker 1: you want to watch it on Friday's digitally, it's on
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Speaker 1: I believe, so check out the around the NFL broadcast.
Speaker 1: And I also one more note, I saw and I
Speaker 1: tweeted that we are, apparently by this metric on Apple podcast,
Speaker 1: we're the fifteenth number fifteen podcast I believe in the
Speaker 1: UK um this past week overall, not just sports. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody. Just a call to not just
Speaker 1: the UK listeners but the American listeners to please go
Speaker 1: to Apple and rate us five stars and leave a
Speaker 1: positive view. But even if you don't want to leave
Speaker 1: a review, if you could just juice us with some
Speaker 1: star ratings, that would be very nice. We don't ask
Speaker 1: for much, We don't charge you a dime for the show.
Speaker 1: If you could do that for us, consider it. Even
Speaker 1: I'd say start. If you know people that don't like
Speaker 1: sports or don't like football, have them listen to regularly
Speaker 1: because that's the new territory, the new crowd that we're
Speaker 1: looking for. To get higher than fifteen in the UK,
Speaker 1: that's an insult to us. We should be third or
Speaker 1: fourth at the at the lowest. Yeah, I tweeted it,
Speaker 1: fifteenth places, fourteen loser. How about how about a little
Speaker 1: present for Dan's tenure anniversary, you know at the NFL network.
Speaker 1: Just leave five stars. That's why I didn't say congrats earlier.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave five stars and leave a great review
Speaker 1: for Dan. There, you got it, all right, and we'll
Speaker 1: read it because I'm gonna check it every day, Greg
Speaker 1: until I see the review. Now do it right now?
Speaker 1: All right, thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back Monday.
Speaker 1: Um hoping West is gonna be with us for the
Speaker 1: Monday show and and uh coming up next Wednesday, of
Speaker 1: course the Fantasy Extravaganza. So everything is starting to heat up.
Speaker 1: Now it's getting wild. Let's get out of here. This
Speaker 1: is Dan hands Is signing off four Quiet Storm, the
Speaker 1: old Boss, Rocky Hollywood behind the glass. Ten years gone, man,
Speaker 1: ten years gone. Until Monday