WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Game Management in D.C.? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:04.200 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.960 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.840 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:21.800 time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:28.640 Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys, 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:34.879 welcome to another show. Nick are smirking. That's rare to 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:42.440 see going Okay? Well, short, short, yeah, yeah, short, short, 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.800 short show. Um, real quick. Yesterday we spend the whole 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.440 time pretty much talking about Amari Cooper and I wanted 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.440 to really throw it quickly to you. You got a 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.000 chance to get first step on him yesterday and talk 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.800 to talk to him yesterday. I wanted to hear what 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.360 were some of the things that he said? How what 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:05.479 were your first impressions? Well, this will be short. Um. 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.199 He walked right in, walked by the weight room, locker room, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.520 went sat down. He didn't talk to anybody else other 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.200 than than our set, and I got to talk to 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.000 him before Jason Garrett, which was which was good. I 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.160 was told he doesn't do a lot of interviews, doesn't 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.000 talk a lot, and I was like, okay, well, well's 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.960 all right, it'll be fine, It'll be fine. And it 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:27.920 was one of the toughest interviews I've ever done. As 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.480 you can see on the website, he's a nice guy. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:33.720 He reminds me of talking to like a ten year 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.200 old eleven year old, a shy kid. If you leave 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.119 them an out, they'll take it. They're not just gonna 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.560 open up. So I didn't ask the best questions in 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.039 the world because he was kind of like, yep, you know. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.320 I was like, how does that sound, Dallas Cowboy? You know, 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.240 I'm Mark Cooper News Dallas Cowboy, And he was like, 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.920 sounds good. And I knew right then that it was 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.800 going to be on U And it was tough. But 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.080 you know, he talked about working hard, he talked about 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.280 wanting to win games, like that's his focus as to 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.919 win games. And as I said so times on Twitter, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.240 there's a lot of wide receivers around this team in 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:04.840 the last few years that do a lot of talking. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.200 So if he's not one that does a lot of talking, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.480 that's maybe a good thing. Well, at the end of 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.080 the day, can he play, That'll be a lost important 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.680 anyone cares about. We'll see now moving on from that, 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.440 since we spend a lot of time on him yesterday, 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.880 I wanted to touch on real quick. He's here, he practiced, 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.520 We were out there practice. Where is that what you 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.840 were touching on? Big old just big looking dude, fills 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.920 out that uniform. Nice. Yeah, that's always good football. That's 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.560 always good that you're like, you know, you're like, he's 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.720 a stud. I get a good thing to say about 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.720 a guy, but it sounds weird. I get uncomfortable every 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.960 year during Jeff season when people start talking about the 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.120 thickness of the thighs and all that. I'm just like, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.400 that's a little much. Man. He's got so much for me. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.079 He got some on him. Jerry Jones is like famous 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.240 quote when he was like, Troyman looks good getting out 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.760 of the shower. Yeah, just like too much for me. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.480 There's a strange dichotomy there. We don't have to get 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.280 into it on this show, but there's a strange dichotomy 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:02.120 in football doubt anyway. Well, today the plan is to 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.000 talk about the game since we haven't had a chance 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.240 to do so, even though it's Wednesday already. But there 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.839 are still things to discuss, and I know you two 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.280 have a little debate going on, but before we get 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.880 into it, I wanted to go over the injuries that 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.480 have happened since then. Randy Gregory, he had a minor 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.919 knee scope and he's supposed to be back by the 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.760 time when you're about to say, before you say it, 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.280 go ahead. What is nothing minor about a surgery? Yes, well, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.520 I mean something like that, but football football and football 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.400 players are insane like that's I mean, yeah, he had 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.600 this minor thing where we went into his knee and 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.960 gug gug loose cartilage out of it and just you know, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.880 we cut him open, but he's he'll be ready. Cut 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.000 you open for a scope, though, do they? Yeah, I 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.640 mean surgery, Well yeah, you have to go. They open. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.560 It was just like a little like the distickle. It's 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.320 like almost like a well, like an injection going is 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.960 it's certain you're right now, you're going, you're right. I mean, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.240 it's not like they it's not like it's put it 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.400 on PBS, but I mean to watch it's they invaded 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.400 his body with the foreign object and doug stuff. Every 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.039 time you get a okay, so downplay this. He got 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.159 a knee scope and they expect him to be ready 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.520 for Monday. That's crazy to me, It's not crazy. That's okay. 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:28.559 By week to rest very time. Whatever. Chill out today, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.520 chill out tomorrow, get some rest, take advantage. I've heard 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.039 you wine enough about your running injuries to say, and 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.599 what I do. I keep running through away, just away 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:41.160 for me, seriously, we're not going back there. You're not 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.920 going back there, need less to say. Based on what 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:49.040 they said, it's nothing major. It's a minor thing. But 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.080 it's kind of common for these guys to get now. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:59.080 Geoff's Jeff Swain. Jeff Swain, he sprained his mcl against 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.479 the Redskins, and any updates on how major this one is. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.160 No real concrete update. J he was getting an MRI yesterday. 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.360 Jason Garrett's hopeful that it's a sooner rather than later 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.039 type of deal, but he wasn't willing to speak concretely 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.520 about it. Hopeful for some more information later in the week. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.799 I mean, sprain MCLs always seem to be two to four, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.000 That's what it always seems to be. I mean, every 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.440 injury is different. I get it. And that's what Malik 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.640 Collins had and he missed. He got he got hurt 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.640 in a week two and he wasn't back until the 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:34.240 Jags game. So but you know that being said one 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.559 week would be you know, to the buye weekend. Two 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.640 weeks is which and the Titans in a Monday night game. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.440 Zach Martin, I don't know. I mean, you'd probably call 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.520 it a sprain as well, sprained his knee, but I'd 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.560 be shocked if he's not ready for the Titans game. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.400 So that's true, but come back into the game. No 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.600 two injuries are the same, and no two players are 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.240 the same. So but since you got seventeen tight ends 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.719 on this team, you can do whatever you can. Bring 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.839 No Brown back and he can be tighten. But that 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.880 doesn't bring up an interesting point though about the tight 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.360 ends it's been. I mean, I think this season we've 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.040 seen that Jeff Swain has been the predominant guy at 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.960 tight end. He's played more than anybody else. That does 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.880 open up a really interesting question of who's going to 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.120 take over that role. Will they be just blitting that 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.840 role and now you're gonna have a different tight end 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.880 in and tight end in their every play, like or 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:25.480 both terrifying both. I mean, no, that's and that's not 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.040 I mean, Jeff, Jeff's a good player. I don't think 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.800 you're like, oh my god, it's it's not like losing 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.520 Jason Witten, but it still is. That's the best of 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.160 what they have. He is the only one of the 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:39.039 four that I trust to handle blocking and route running 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.840 assignments and catch the ball when it is thrown at him. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.640 He's the only one that I remotely trust. Think about 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.120 how many snaps he has and how many targets he 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.680 has this year, I mean that means he's doing what 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.120 he's blocking, and if he's probably the best of that, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.760 he's actually pretty good. That's pretty good. He's not Martella Spinet, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.760 but he's not bad at all. And that's actually one 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.080 of the interesting things I think when because if memory 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.719 started to me correct when he first got here, I 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.039 don't think he was that good of a blocker, and 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.599 it seems like that's a part of his game that 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.680 he's developed and worked on and gotten really good at. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.600 Whitton wasn't a good blocker, No, he wasn't. I mean, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.280 he's getting away at you. But if you can be 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:13.920 a tide end that can get in the way. Oh, 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.400 he told me that that's one of the things that 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.280 he's the most proud of, this blocking game and yeah, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:24.320 Jeff he I asked him when he got his first touchdown, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.560 was it Yeah, when he got his first touchdow, I 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.000 asked him, I'm like, hey, how does that feel like? Okay? 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.840 Do you like better now being able to catch the 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.280 ball and make plays or do you prefer blocking? And 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:40.320 he's like, oh, I prefer blocking. I That's what I 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.840 love doing and that's what he's the most proud of doing. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.240 So so that's gonna be that's gonna be a big No, 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.160 that would be a big loss. I didn't say it 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.840 is a huge problem if he's out for any extended period. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.320 I mean, this is one of those situations where the 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.240 depth chart order might be a certain way now because 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.240 you know swaying up there, and then you fill in 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.800 in the other guys. But because of what he does 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.560 predominantly and what that position does, you might see some 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.360 changes in Wait, I mean think about who might start. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.480 I think Rico probably will start now. Yeah, I might 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.680 be your best flocker. No, it's not gonna be Schultz. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.520 I mean, I'm sorry, Um, And I don't know if 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.920 Jarwin's really that that great of a blocker either. I 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:26.080 think Rico might be your best blocker there. But don't 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.120 don't forget too, You've got some Darian. I can't believe 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.760 I almost went there, almost went there. Who's seventy five Fleming? 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:38.880 Fleming ran yea, not even thinking about Byron Bell? You 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:44.120 went back, like way back in the I yeah, that's 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.720 a good point you could use. He really isn't that old, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.480 dar Now, Darren Williams, isn't that old? You could use 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.240 Cam Fleming as a as a you know, a tackle 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.360 tight end, although obviously he doesn't give you anything as 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.720 a pass catching threat. But that's if Jeff swam. If 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.480 Jeff Swain is out for a serious period of time, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.840 I think you either need to think about finding another 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.800 tight end or which I don't believe this will happen, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.680 or adjusting the way you play and using fewer tight ends. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.840 No I know, yeah, I don't expect that to happen either. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.559 So well you also, but you don't have Tavon right now, 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.800 so that may affect their ability to want to do that, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.560 because when you want it to do that, you had 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:27.520 Tavon in the mix, right That's which is why this 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.160 is so curious and why I'll be interested. You know, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.800 maybe something will come out today. But also Jason Garrett 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.120 talks again tomorrow, and I'm sure he will be asked 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.560 about that, because I don't like the idea of trying 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.800 to play games without him the way that this team 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.640 likes to play. When do we know anything about Noah 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:46.040 Brown and when he could possibly be back he can practice? 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.280 Actually saw him this morning doing routes on air, just 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.040 you know, with a strength coach, nothing official or serious looking, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.520 but running routes. They could start his clock and bring 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.760 him back to practice today if they wanted to, and 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:05.280 he can play starting week nine, so he could play 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.520 against the Titans if they wanted to do that. But 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.960 the reason why I say this, because he is the 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.080 reason why he has been here I think for so long, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.000 is because they think he is a value to them 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.840 as a blocker, and they do motion him a lot 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.199 into situations where they want to block in line a 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.400 little bit more, so you know, maybe that's some way 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.480 to offset that a little bit. Well. Also, you gotta 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.520 you know there's more evaluations going on than just him, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.560 because you've got guys on injury reserve. Two of these 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.920 players can come back this year, he would be one 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.360 of them, and then whoever else you want. Travis Frederick 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.640 was another guy that could be. I don't think anyone 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.760 believes Travis Frederick is going to come back and play 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.160 this year. I don't. I don't anyone that walks they 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.240 can see him walking around, would think that. Yeah, Terrence Williams, 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.760 I don't believe it's coming back again ever, and anybody 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:59.520 else than I are it's Travis Terrence. So no, you 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.640 know Dayton Jones. Dayton Jones also somebody I completely forgot 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.160 about um so much that I can't even remember his 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:11.160 freaking name. Um the guard, the guard who heardst there 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:14.560 you go. Yeah, I forgot all about him as well. Yeah, no, 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.880 I'm you know, completely forgot. I wonder how much they 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.240 could have used him this year. We'll never know those 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.600 the fun what ifs of a football season. That much 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.520 he had work to do. I mean, he came in 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.960 looking like a guard and a tackle, so he needed to. Well. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.559 When we just talking yesterday about having that bigger body, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.320 although maybe that helps a little bit, it is it's 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.600 a name to remember for next year when you're talking 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.320 about problems on this offensive line though, just saying yeah, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.319 so not to I mean, that's February talk or March talk, 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:54.520 but we've got to talk about something time. Um. And 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.880 then the last guy I almost forgot to mention is 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.840 the cornerback C J. Goodwin, who is expected to have 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.959 surgery after an arm fracture. Another great point, having surgery 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.280 on his broken forearm. I think he had it yesterday 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.280 and literally, like this was the conversation, was like, so 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.520 he'll go on IR and Jason Garrett was like, yeah, 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.920 not necessarily. We'll see, we'll see what his timetable is 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.080 and see if it's realistic to keep him. I'm just like, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.400 are you insane? Broke your forearm like just snapped it 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.200 in two And they're like, he's wrapping up things. Could 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.800 he'll he's throw on the team in special teams tackles already. Yeah, 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.960 And I'm Barry Church did that two or three years ago. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.480 Like maybe his bones, I don't know, maybe his bones 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.400 can heal. Hiks. What he's doing is running down on 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.920 punts and making plays. Can you play the cast? Well, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.319 that's the thing. I mean, it's his it's not his foot, 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.520 it's his right Okay, but you need your arm to tackle, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:48.960 not necessarily if you got a cast on it, you 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.960 could still especially if it's kind of cast it doesn't 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.080 encumber his hands. Well didn't he still could? You're you're right, 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.240 right down and make a tackle. You're right. But also 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.960 the main thing there is the rundown there, getting the 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.720 guy's face and make them call faircatch. That's the main 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.920 thing that you know, so especially in today's game. Yeah, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.760 all right, exactly. Okay, I'm talking about meta humans here. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:13.920 They're not they are. They're meta humans. They're different, they're 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.720 different species than the rest of us. Believe that. Okay, Um, 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.199 if they need band aids, probably not. I'm thinking they 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.080 just laughed at all that. Yeah, let's take our first 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.240 break and when we come back, we're gonna get into 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.600 the game, the details of the game play, calling and 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.400 all that, and I'll throw the debate over to that side. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.840 While a player can look good on paper, it's when 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.040 he's out on the field that you really find out 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.040 what he's made of. 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Today back to the break, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.080 we are back on the final segment of today's show. Now, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.200 I'm gonna light up this match and throw it over 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.320 there and walk away. So there's aussion going to be there. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.640 It's Wednesday, the game ended four days. Stop it. I'm 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.560 gonna get you high up right now, all right, and 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.360 you better bring it if you want to win this argument. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.520 All right. One of you saying that the play calling 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.280 was good, another one was saying another play calling wasn't good, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.120 or that it should have been a little different than 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.520 the decisions. Let me started start. I don't even think 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.200 that that that statement is that accurate, but I'll just 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.640 essentially that is. But essentially, because I'm not trying to 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.880 be hypocritical here, Derek knows this. The ball was at 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.400 the thirty seven yard line at one point. He asked me, 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.480 how many more yards do you need? And I said 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.320 thirty seven seven I need I want them to score. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.000 Maybe that was personal preference. I don't want to go 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.800 to overtime again. Let's do this, Let's let's get it done. Um, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:59.920 but I do think just when you when Jason's get 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.680 and killed about managing the game. I think when four 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.840 minutes to go, you're down by ten, and to think, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:08.920 you know what, you're gonna have a forty six yard 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.600 field goal to tie this game, everyone would have taken it. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.280 I thought they managed it well to get to that point, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.000 forty six yards forty seven yards, and then of course 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.920 we saw what happened. The snapper got an a penalty 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:23.960 called on him and the kicker missed the kick. So 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.359 but I thought to that point, I thought Jason Garrett 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:27.919 did a good job of getting him there. Could have 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.159 been better. Yeah, it could have been better, But I 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.520 mean that's that's my taking. And you you made a 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.520 really good point, and I'll own it. Like we were 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:37.280 on the sideline at the end of that game, and 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:38.840 I you know, I'm like, well, what do you stand 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.359 to lose by going for the onside kick, like you 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.520 gotta get you have to hold him to a three 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.679 and out, and they did, but you didn't know that 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.920 at the time. So you're like on side kick, if 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.200 you don't get it, you can still get the ball back. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.720 Even if you're pinned, you still have a chance they 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.000 didn't do that. They played it great. Sean Lee forced 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:57.960 Alex Smith out of bound. So I agree with you 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.399 in the sense that trailing by ten with four minutes 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:03.960 to play, they did a really good job to put 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:09.160 themselves in position to extend the game. But fifty two 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.040 seconds to play and a time out on the opponent's 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.560 forty six yard line, you've been out played basically all day, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.160 and you have a chance to, in the best case scenario, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.040 steal a win from the opponent, or, in the worst 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.120 case scenario, kick a field goal. I just I don't 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.720 believe they tried hard enough to put themselves in a 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.080 position to succeed, even if it's only a field goal. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.679 H This was the sequence. It's first and ten from 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.000 the forty six. They throw a nine yard pass to 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.080 be Beasley along the far side line. He goes out 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.240 of bounds, and do I have that right? Well, it 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.240 says short pass short right to Beasley for nine yards. 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.480 Here we go. No, No, I'm sorry, No, the long 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.679 past to Beasley along the sidelines set them up on 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.520 the forty six. Yes, Then they throw short to Beasley 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.480 along the right side, which two he does not get 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.560 out of bounds and to the credit of people that 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.760 defend this, Like if it's a better thrown ball, Beasley 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.600 probably keeps running and it's a different story. But I 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.760 just I didn't like the way they carried themselves. He 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.680 goes down after nine yards, they jogged to the line. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.680 I mean they threw that, you know, the play star 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.840 of fifty two seconds left, they snapped the next ball 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.960 with twenty eight it's another pass over the middle, which 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.919 don't like that, and they kind of jogged to the line, 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.680 and then there's a review and then there's twelve seconds left, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.680 and like, honestly, at that point then you've made your bed. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.119 So that's not I'm not the guy sitting here saying, 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:35.360 with twelve seconds to play, you should have been taking 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:38.200 shots at the end zone. No, with fifty two seconds 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.360 to play, I mean, how many times have we seen 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:44.120 Jason Witten run the five yard out to move yourself closer? 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.159 You know, like in that situation, like where are the 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.800 short quick passes to get out of bounds? And that's 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.119 Tony Romo was saying it. Obviously we couldn't hear it 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.200 at the time, but Tony Romo is like, I'm running 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.200 short stuff, running slants, I'm keeping my time out alive, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.000 I'm trying to move into field goal range, and then 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:00.679 I want to take a want to attack the end 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:03.679 zone at least a couple of times perfectly said Tony, 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.480 well done. And they didn't do that, Like they got 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.720 literally to the edge of what is considered makeable field 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.520 goal range, and we're like, that's good for us. May 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:13.879 ask you this question. Let's assume for a second the 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.080 Cowboys went the route that you did and they got 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.320 to a point where they were able to attack and 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.920 actually throw to the end zone. Do you think there 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.159 was any concern by the coach or should have been 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.440 concerned by the coach that if you get into that scenario, 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.200