Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I said, Ima nandaz Plase. Hey boo, it's me Roz
Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez the podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: I like to talk to people that I like about
Speaker 1: the paranormal. I've got my dear dear friend Sam Pancake
Speaker 1: back on the show, and boy do we have a
Speaker 1: good time. So before we get to that, ooh, one
Speaker 1: fun little announcement, I am going to be in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: of all places, I'm going to be doing stand up
Speaker 1: my new stand up tour jk Raffling. I will be
Speaker 1: taking the show to San Francisco very soon. It's actually
Speaker 1: the twelfth and thirteenth of July. Get those tickets in
Speaker 1: the link in my bio on Instagram. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be at a cute little place called the Eclectic Box Theater.
Speaker 1: And then right after that, on the fourteenth, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Austin. Snatch up those tickets please. Okay, let's hear
Speaker 1: a ghost story. This one's from Candice, who writes, my
Speaker 1: parents sold my childhood home and ended up renting a
Speaker 1: house down the road as they were looking for a
Speaker 1: new house to reside in in Maryland, near the Bay.
Speaker 1: The house they rented was a converted farmhouse that still
Speaker 1: had some farmland behind it. I helped my parents move in,
Speaker 1: and what struck me was that in the basement there
Speaker 1: was a staircase leading to nowhere. It just cut off
Speaker 1: at the seal. I don't remember how I came to
Speaker 1: the conclusion that this means the house is haunted, but
Speaker 1: I told my mom right away I had a feeling
Speaker 1: about this house. She did not acknowledge my remark. My
Speaker 1: dad got sick and my parents ended up renting the
Speaker 1: place for two years in order to stay near established
Speaker 1: doctors that he was seeing. I would visit often from
Speaker 1: DC to help my mom out with my dad, and
Speaker 1: usually spent the weekends there. When I stayed, I would
Speaker 1: always sleep in the back bedroom upstairs. One night, I
Speaker 1: was watching TV in the bedroom and was dozing off.
Speaker 1: I finally turned off the TV and rolled over to
Speaker 1: my side to go back to sleep. That's when I
Speaker 1: felt someone climb into bed with me. I felt the
Speaker 1: heaviness of someone sit and lay down while my back
Speaker 1: was to them. It sounds crazy, but I knew it
Speaker 1: was a man. Mind you, The only man that was
Speaker 1: in the house was my dad, who was very sick
Speaker 1: and couldn't walk. I then said up and turned the
Speaker 1: TV back on to light up the room. No one
Speaker 1: was there, but I felt him on the bed. I
Speaker 1: whispered out loud, go away. Then suddenly the heaviness on
Speaker 1: the bed was gone, but I had a weird feeling
Speaker 1: that this man was still in the room. I left
Speaker 1: the TV on the rest of the night and finally
Speaker 1: fell back asleep. After that night, I would feel the
Speaker 1: man's presence in that room, but I could tell he
Speaker 1: respected the boundary. I made years of therapy to thank
Speaker 1: for that. I never told my mom because I knew
Speaker 1: she could only handle so much love. Candace, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: First of all, the nerve of that ghost, that fool
Speaker 1: was like, ooh, don't mind if I do.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna crawl.
Speaker 1: Right on in here. And he knew he was wrong.
Speaker 1: You said go away. He's like, Okay, my bad. Sorry,
Speaker 1: just thought I would, just thought I would try it.
Speaker 1: Good for you for putting up that boundary, and you
Speaker 1: know what, that ghost. Good for them for respecting that
Speaker 1: let's talk to Sam Pancake on with the show. Well, well, well,
Speaker 1: I am once again joined by my platonic life partner,
Speaker 1: my lawyer, my publicist, my general practitioner, terryodontist, my periodontris. Yes,
Speaker 1: Sam Pancake.
Speaker 3: Your gardener and your chef. Good morning, miss Hernandez.
Speaker 4: How are you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so good to see you. So wipe me?
Speaker 1: Last night, Sam, and I heard the song wipe Out,
Speaker 1: and as soon as the guy goes wipe about, I
Speaker 1: just went wipe me. Now, I just keep saying that,
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that for the next hour
Speaker 1: you and me are just going to be quoting inside jokes.
Speaker 1: But don't worry, loyal listeners, We'll let you in on
Speaker 1: the jokes.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing that happened was after that, it just
Speaker 3: became as we were walking and then later over the
Speaker 3: text machine in our hands, it just became different versions
Speaker 3: of pop songs with diapering lyrics switched into them, which.
Speaker 4: Sounds dumb but feels delicious.
Speaker 1: It doesn't smell great though. Now, well, Sam, thanks for
Speaker 1: coming back.
Speaker 3: Bras am I this is my third time. I think
Speaker 3: is there a special Third Timers Club present or award.
Speaker 1: Or get a jacket when it's five.
Speaker 3: Like an actual Satin Ros Fernandez branded roller rink jacket,
Speaker 3: or the jacket of a baked potato skin that just
Speaker 3: peeled off and mailed to you in a tiny envelope.
Speaker 1: The second one perfect that or I just go through
Speaker 1: and look at what kind of jackets I have and
Speaker 1: then with a sharp l right five times for you here.
Speaker 1: So keep working on it. Okay, well, we'll see how
Speaker 1: this one goes.
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you the last time I did
Speaker 3: it in another place. Your parents were in the room,
Speaker 3: which can be a little intimidating. They're lovely, but I mean,
Speaker 3: just like your best friend's parents are sitting there while
Speaker 3: you're telling wacky stories, it's got to have an impact.
Speaker 1: That is true. That was a weird family day at
Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, my parents weren down, My dog was
Speaker 1: with them. It was a whole situation. But today we
Speaker 1: are gathered here to talk about I have so much
Speaker 1: fun stuff for us to talk about today. But before
Speaker 1: we get into it, do you have any Do you
Speaker 1: have anything new lately? I mean, I feel like you're
Speaker 1: always talking to some kind of healer or staying in
Speaker 1: some kind of haunted hotel.
Speaker 3: Sure, well, I mean I don't know that we've talked
Speaker 3: about since last We did this on your podcast about
Speaker 3: when we went to our friend the medium exorcist house
Speaker 3: and my father came through at length.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: We were sitting on hay bales. It was late.
Speaker 3: I was uncomfortable in my booty area because hey, bail
Speaker 3: and we were just waiting for anyone we know to
Speaker 3: come through. But then I after what because it was
Speaker 3: kind of cold, and I love it there and I
Speaker 3: love our friends who do that.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, our friends listening know the friend
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. It was our h Davis. Oh,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. She just has these beautiful parties
Speaker 1: where she invites really cool people and then she is like, okay,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to do a reading and then she's like,
Speaker 1: all right, someone over here, has anybody got a grandma?
Speaker 1: Or whatever she does, and almost every time, I think,
Speaker 1: every time, people start crying. Yeah, it's intense.
Speaker 3: Well, you bring an object from the person, and I
Speaker 3: happened to bring this pipe that was my father's. My
Speaker 3: father passed away in January twenty eighteen. We weren't particularly close.
Speaker 3: It's you know, a complicated relationship. But this particular night
Speaker 3: we were at at our H. Davis's. A few people
Speaker 3: had come through and there were tears and people were
Speaker 3: It's usually the same people, the same guests at the
Speaker 3: party's relatives come through to them or something about those
Speaker 3: particular guests and friends of hers. They have folks on
Speaker 3: the other side who need to talk to them. Now,
Speaker 3: you and I haven't had that yet, particularly not at Rachel's,
Speaker 3: I mean our H's.
Speaker 1: But my people never want to talk to me period.
Speaker 1: Anywhere I go they're done.
Speaker 4: I know, honey, I don't want to talk to you.
Speaker 4: And yeah, here we are.
Speaker 3: I mean that's so anyway, it was late. I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, my ass hurt. We were cold, it was outside,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh god, honey, I love it,
Speaker 3: but I need to go home. And then she was like, oh,
Speaker 3: this man's coming through grandfather fatherly energy early to mid eighties,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh God, it's my father.
Speaker 4: Tell them to stay there.
Speaker 3: Then she said, because I had just done the I
Speaker 3: had just done that sitcom that our friend Winny mccleinnon
Speaker 3: Covey is on the Goldbergs, and I played an obgyn
Speaker 3: like a couple months before that. I guess he had
Speaker 3: just aired because then she said, oh, this person's saying
Speaker 3: my son just played a doctor on TV.
Speaker 4: And I was like, holy shit, I guess that's me.
Speaker 3: And I don't remember handling the situation with grace or dignity.
Speaker 3: That was just like, no, no, tell Daddy, just say
Speaker 3: tell him.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 3: But also, oddly he saw me somehow wherever he is
Speaker 3: on TV playing a doctor. Now, while this man was living,
Speaker 3: he was not remotely interested in watching anything I did
Speaker 3: on TV for the decades I had been on TV,
Speaker 3: so that was nice. I went to one of your psychics.
Speaker 3: I won't say where, I won't say the person's name.
Speaker 3: This is before my father died. And that's when I
Speaker 3: was like checking my watch, going like, hey, can any
Speaker 3: of these psychics give me a heads up when my
Speaker 3: daddy's going to go Because he was in a home.
Speaker 3: He was ailing, he had dementia, he had leukemia, and
Speaker 3: he was just hanging in there because he I love
Speaker 3: the nursing home. He would say, because he could speak.
Speaker 3: He had dementia, but he could communicate, and he would
Speaker 3: say like, this is my relaxation time. He loved it there,
Speaker 3: so he wasn't in any hurry to go. So I
Speaker 3: would ask a psychic, can you give me a day
Speaker 3: in time? Because I got scheduling, I got shows to do.
Speaker 3: And so this particular psychic said, your grandfather, your father's father,
Speaker 3: is on the other side, waving a sausage at your father,
Speaker 3: and I just I blacked out from all the family
Speaker 3: phallic imagery.
Speaker 4: I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: Did your dad enjoy eating sausages?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he was a carnivore.
Speaker 1: He was a hunter, because was he like, come on,
Speaker 1: get the sausage, come on to the other side.
Speaker 4: Hey like could be a good dog, which is kind
Speaker 4: of creepy.
Speaker 3: It's what you do to a dog to make them,
Speaker 3: you know, get out of the outhouse or whatever. And
Speaker 3: what So cut back to a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: in a minute, just let it got a played.
Speaker 4: A doctor on TV. My father, I guess saw me.
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean maybe he liked that I was playing
Speaker 3: an obgyn, which I woke into the details around that
Speaker 3: part of his dement. She was being inappropriate around women
Speaker 3: at the end. So anyway, he had a lot to say.
Speaker 3: And one of our other friends that was there Callas
Speaker 3: recorded some of it, which I didn't even think to
Speaker 3: record it, which was so dumb. And then I sent
Speaker 3: that recording to my older sister who was much more
Speaker 3: in touch with the spirit world. And she's a healer
Speaker 3: and she does different rituals and traditions and sweat lodges
Speaker 3: and stuff that she's like, what's the word not registered,
Speaker 3: but she's like approved to do. It's part of her
Speaker 3: spiritual odyssey and her leadership in this particular realm. And
Speaker 3: she was like, from what I heard, that was Daddy.
Speaker 3: Different words he said made me very much believe it
Speaker 3: was him, So she was very convinced. And they were
Speaker 3: a lot closer than he and I were, so I
Speaker 3: trusted her. So it was pretty profound and it really
Speaker 3: gave both of us because he apologized a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: if you remember, he was like, I'm sorry for the
Speaker 3: way I behaved.
Speaker 4: It was very backward.
Speaker 3: The men in my family were very backward because this
Speaker 3: is people don't know, this was small town, rural West Virginia.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the attitudes are pretty backwards.
Speaker 3: The specifics of me being gaging come up, but that's
Speaker 3: what we felt maybe it was. So that was pretty
Speaker 3: pretty moving and I still have those recordings the Calak
Speaker 3: sent me.
Speaker 4: So that happened recently.
Speaker 3: Another friend of mine, my friend Joe Mom and Nitsburg,
Speaker 3: had gone to a psychic in New York, and a
Speaker 3: bunch of our mutual friends, two of whom died from
Speaker 3: age related causes in the nineties, came through. And then
Speaker 3: my friend Mark Randall, who passed away also of age
Speaker 3: related causes in twenty seventeen, literally a year to almost
Speaker 3: the date before my father passed away.
Speaker 4: And he just came through and I Joe said, he
Speaker 4: just sends love.
Speaker 3: And then Joe has more to tell me about the
Speaker 3: other friends, which I haven't gotten to talk to him about.
Speaker 4: So that just happened.
Speaker 3: And Mark is the friend who I've lost a lot
Speaker 3: of friends sadly, because you know, I'm a gay man
Speaker 3: of a certain age and aids and you know, sex
Speaker 3: dougs and rock roll lifestyle throughout the years. You know,
Speaker 3: we've lost a lot of people. But Mark's the one
Speaker 3: I think of every day and talk to in my
Speaker 3: mind a lot, because we just had so many fun
Speaker 3: little bits and bobs and songs and lyrics and.
Speaker 4: Such like you and I have, so that that meant
Speaker 4: a lot to me.
Speaker 1: And you've been traveling. Have you stayed in any haunted?
Speaker 1: Oh you stayed at the Fister.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Milwaukee, the p Fista, which I had not a
Speaker 3: great experience.
Speaker 1: We first covered the Fister Hotel in Milwaukee when I
Speaker 1: had the very gay paint guys on the first time.
Speaker 1: Go back and listen. It's so funny. I want to say.
Speaker 1: That was like twenty twenty two sometime. Yes, the Fister
Speaker 1: Hotel founded by Guido Fister. How was it for you?
Speaker 1: Because they say it's very haunted.
Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you what haunted me.
Speaker 3: The goddamn bass in the wedding reception that was directly
Speaker 3: over my head.
Speaker 1: The basement of the music.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the music, the ghost of the music, the
Speaker 3: ghost of the apple bottom gene boots with the fur
Speaker 3: or we're body, We're looking at her like all your
Speaker 3: wedding reception twenty twenty four greatest hits. Okay, here's what
Speaker 3: happened on a book tour with my other best beautiful
Speaker 3: raven haired friend, Lauren Graham, Dame Lauren Graham.
Speaker 1: Who one of these days I will force to come
Speaker 1: out this podcast. I still have not given her the
Speaker 1: Jerry summons.
Speaker 3: Under penalty of law, she has to appear. I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't speak for her, but we have not. I
Speaker 3: mean I've never heard her talk about ghosty stuff and
Speaker 3: while I have. Okay, all right, So anyway, Hotel Fister,
Speaker 3: this is in April.
Speaker 4: We're doing a show in Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: We had done a show in Chicago in the afternoon,
Speaker 3: and then we drove because Milwaukee and Chicago only an
Speaker 3: hour half away. Who knew besides everyone but me and
Speaker 3: everyone at Milwaukee and Chicago. The drive during which you
Speaker 3: passed the amazing mars Cheese Castle, which is another story
Speaker 3: that's for your Dairy Product podcast, not.
Speaker 4: For this one. And we got to the Fister really late.
Speaker 3: It's very it's still like it was built when Guido
Speaker 3: put it together. It's very like fancy murals, that kind
Speaker 3: of robber baron eighteen nineties, you know, the Gilded Age.
Speaker 4: Not my taste. Bom am I saying bad things? I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: So we get there late to the Fister, which I
Speaker 3: knew from lavern and Shirley growing up. It was the
Speaker 3: fancy hotel Laverne and Shirley would know in the Vernon
Speaker 3: Shirley show, which I grew up on in the seventies
Speaker 3: and loved.
Speaker 4: And so we go.
Speaker 3: We have some bar bites drinks, you know, we had
Speaker 3: our own respective mock tailor cocktail.
Speaker 4: That we enjoy.
Speaker 3: We went up to our rooms on our suits, thank you,
Speaker 3: on the seventh floor. We're just going to be there
Speaker 3: one night. We have a show the next day in
Speaker 3: the afternoon. We get off on the elevator and there's
Speaker 3: this booming, booming, booming music, and I was like, what
Speaker 3: the hell, And so we go into her suite and
Speaker 3: we can't hear in her suite right, So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm sure mine'll be fine.
Speaker 4: I walk down the hall to my suite, louder louder.
Speaker 3: Every footstep brings my eyeball with more reverberations, and you know,
Speaker 3: wolf for tweet boom. I don't know how speakers work,
Speaker 3: but whatever the base is. I go into my suite,
Speaker 3: which was fine. The hotel been recently fancied up. I
Speaker 3: did not mind the room. The products smell good, it
Speaker 3: was clean. TV had Turner classic movies on, and murder.
Speaker 3: She wrote, I'm happy. However, it was booming so hard
Speaker 3: over my head that I'm not a complainer.
Speaker 4: I called the front desk. I'm like, what is going on.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh yeah, there's a wedding reception up there
Speaker 3: till midnight. And I was like, what can I get
Speaker 3: a different suite? No, no, no, we're all booked up.
Speaker 3: Clearly they were used to this as a fister, and
Speaker 3: I almost yelped about it like a true Karen, but
Speaker 3: I didn't. But I guess I'm doing that now with
Speaker 3: my mouth out loud on a podcast. They clearly had
Speaker 3: had lots of complaints of this nature before because this hotel,
Speaker 3: the ballrooms are on the top floor above the fancy suites,
Speaker 3: which I assume was from back in the day where
Speaker 3: all the ballrooms contained was like you know, Waltzes and
Speaker 3: Mozart and you know, Shoeberd and whoever was doing their
Speaker 3: funky dance tunes at the time.
Speaker 1: She had a hoopskirt dress.
Speaker 4: Bustle with a fur eddy coats on the floor. Everybody
Speaker 4: was curtsying.
Speaker 3: At her, so there was just nothing to be done,
Speaker 3: she said. The woman at the front desk said I
Speaker 3: could have them turn it down a little bit. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're gonna turn it down. With the wedding reception.
Speaker 3: It was Louie Louie. It was dancing Queen. Literally, the
Speaker 3: mirrors were shaking in the room. The bed was vibrating,
Speaker 3: and not in a magic fingers good way, and not
Speaker 3: because I was not alone.
Speaker 1: The ghosts doing that, they were dancing along.
Speaker 4: They definitely were.
Speaker 3: I have videos, the most boring videos in the world
Speaker 3: that I took of, like the doors and the mirror
Speaker 3: shaking while I'm watching murder. She wrote, Jessica solving a
Speaker 3: crime and I am trying not to cry.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't fall asleep eusies oft to midnight anyway, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't that disastrous.
Speaker 4: But I was like, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta get to some ghosts.
Speaker 3: Well, I just had a lot of hotel grievances I
Speaker 3: had to.
Speaker 4: Issue to the public.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, I've got a really exciting story that
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe. I don't know these
Speaker 1: people personally, because this is a story that recently hit
Speaker 1: the news that concerns queer paranormal people. And I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm speaking out of turn when I say that
Speaker 1: you are a member of the LGBT community.
Speaker 4: Just don't tell my lovely wife, Carolyn, she will be
Speaker 4: so pithy with me.
Speaker 1: Karen Cogareff Carolyn, Oh, Carolyn, Yes.
Speaker 4: Oh, I wish Karen Cogarriff was my wife. I've said
Speaker 4: it to her before. I hope she hears this.
Speaker 1: So let's just get into this one, because I'm so
Speaker 1: curious what you're gonna have to say.
Speaker 4: No, oh no.
Speaker 1: So recently there was a British TV show that brought
Speaker 1: attention to this story, a morning show called This Morning.
Speaker 1: And also that's where I got most of my information from.
Speaker 1: But also there's a video of this story, a separate
Speaker 1: video on a YouTube channel called Love Don't Judge.
Speaker 4: Oh sure.
Speaker 1: So this story takes place in North Carolina. We've got
Speaker 1: a young woman named Rebecca. She is a psychic and
Speaker 1: a ghost tour guide.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty, she's walking past a local historic
Speaker 1: home in Wilmington.
Speaker 4: I was just say, is this swim mcton?
Speaker 3: Because the woman see, it's very haunted and my aunt,
Speaker 3: uncle and cousins live there, and you know, I go
Speaker 3: there a lot.
Speaker 4: Continue.
Speaker 1: So, after her shift is up of her ghost tour,
Speaker 1: she's walking home and she notices sort of the outline
Speaker 1: of a man ghost, and he's like, hey, are you alone?
Speaker 1: Would you like me to escort you?
Speaker 4: And she's was that English or Southern? You were trying
Speaker 4: to do a little bit of both? Sure? Okay.
Speaker 1: So this man's six foot six, blonde hair, blue eyes,
Speaker 1: he has a red coat on turns out he was
Speaker 1: a Revolutionary War soldier that was stationed there. His name
Speaker 1: is Rupert.
Speaker 4: What how does she get all this information?
Speaker 1: Well, she's a psychic, got it and a ghost to
Speaker 1: her guide.
Speaker 4: I missed the psychic part or I just chose to
Speaker 4: forget continue.
Speaker 1: So basically they start a relationship, the two of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, he's if he's red coat, he's
Speaker 3: British and so maybe that's why you're trying to do
Speaker 3: a British accent.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. Yes, he's from Wales, Wales, he's Welsh.
Speaker 1: He's okay.
Speaker 3: Well they were the enemy at the time, so she's
Speaker 3: literally Julia Roberts sleeping with the enemy.
Speaker 4: Well, who's also a ghost.
Speaker 1: This is how things get interesting. They start a.
Speaker 4: Fine I'm already interested, I know.
Speaker 1: So they start when they get interested. Just wait, no,
Speaker 1: So they start a relationship and she ends up going
Speaker 1: to a past life regression session. Ed finds out that
Speaker 1: she actually knew him in seventeen eighty one in a
Speaker 1: past life because they were married.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And he's just this very respectful gentleman. He's all about
Speaker 1: respecting her boundaries and consent. And I guess since she's
Speaker 1: a psychic, she's able to just like kind of call
Speaker 1: him up.
Speaker 3: Make all that up, I mean, just receive all that
Speaker 3: from him and her psychic abilities.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 1: So here's where things get really interesting. God, she's talking
Speaker 1: about all this stuff on TikTok, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: at the time of this recording, she has eight hundred
Speaker 1: and forty seven thousand followers.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: She gets the attention of a follower on TikTok named Catherine,
Speaker 1: and Catherine's a paranormal investigator. Long story short, the two
Speaker 1: of them fall in love.
Speaker 4: Oh come on, now, what next?
Speaker 1: It becomes a throuple with a ghost, a lesbian thruple
Speaker 1: with a ghost.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I don't know how graphic I can get in what
Speaker 3: I want to say about this throupling.
Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want.
Speaker 3: I have so many thoughts and so many feelings express them,
Speaker 3: so many questions and a number of doubts.
Speaker 1: It calls to attention, your catchphrase, your slogan, hooray for everybody?
Speaker 1: What we will put on your tombstone one day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is yes, hooray for everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me live and lit love.
Speaker 1: But what was your question?
Speaker 3: Okay, this is current, like, this is like, oh it's happening?
Speaker 3: Is Christopher? What's what's the ghost name? Andrew Grouper? Sure,
Speaker 3: that's yeah, that sounds that's British. It's very British. He's
Speaker 3: cool with this because you think about back then, he'll
Speaker 3: be like ladies fingering each other with their little mucos out.
Speaker 3: This would very much shock and calls me great dismiss, dismiss, dismay.
Speaker 4: However, miladies like to pocket their lips.
Speaker 3: Upon each other's jerdies and lily pads, and I, as
Speaker 3: a soldier, can only say, hurrah?
Speaker 4: Is that what happened? How does he participate?
Speaker 3: Is he present in the room when they're like making sweet,
Speaker 3: beautiful love?
Speaker 1: So from what I've gathered, Rebecca and Rupert have more
Speaker 1: of an emotional relationship, sure, girl, but he is okay
Speaker 1: with the other relationship.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And they actually they all hang out, the three of them.
Speaker 1: Rebecca has her alone time with Rupert, and she goes
Speaker 1: on walks with him. Sure, but then the three of
Speaker 1: them go to historic places, you know, they travel and stuff.
Speaker 1: So maybe they've been to the Fister.
Speaker 4: They did fist her.
Speaker 3: Anyway, the second lady that joined this is Catherine. Can
Speaker 3: she see him corporeally? Can she experience him in the
Speaker 3: same way Rebecca does?
Speaker 1: No, But since she is a PARANORLM investigator, she's got
Speaker 1: toys and equipment.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll bet she does all kinds and alsots donning.
Speaker 1: She's used her toys and equipment to speak with Rupert.
Speaker 1: And actually she says that when she started developing feelings
Speaker 1: for Rebecca, she consulted Rupert and told him, listen, Rupert,
Speaker 1: I hope you're okay with this.
Speaker 4: Welcome to twenty twenty four, babe.
Speaker 1: Things they're different, yeah, yeah, And apparently he's fine with that.
Speaker 1: He says that he's he's okay with it.
Speaker 3: Well, according to her, he's fine with it. We only
Speaker 3: hear from him through her.
Speaker 1: So they have spirit box sessions and stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: they've they've done different things for the eight hundred and
Speaker 1: forty seven thousand followers, and you know, they believe they
Speaker 1: have proof of Rupert's you know, with his dry sense
Speaker 1: of humor he apparently has.
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, well, he's pretty dry all over.
Speaker 3: If he's a ghost, all of it's pretty dry, unless
Speaker 3: he's a slimer.
Speaker 1: Ew well, slimermers or squirters allowed.
Speaker 4: So, oh, that's a sign in your bedroom.
Speaker 3: I'm remembering where he saw that before, on your bedroom
Speaker 3: door of your giant round bed.
Speaker 1: So people online, of course, got a lot to say,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people say that these two are
Speaker 1: just mentally unwell. But they've met a lot of people
Speaker 1: that praise them for speaking out about this type of
Speaker 1: relationship and making them not feel alone. And they're becoming
Speaker 1: advocates for this type of relationship. And I say, hooray
Speaker 1: for everyone. I say all relationships are valid and beautiful.
Speaker 4: I always say all are beautiful except for mine.
Speaker 3: And all relationships are valid except for this one.
Speaker 4: I'm calling bullshit.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not, so you don't believe this.
Speaker 3: Here's me, babe, you know me. I woant to take
Speaker 3: a look at see what these two look like. I
Speaker 3: have very good intuition. I've got a bit of a
Speaker 3: shine myself. I finally realize that I think that's one
Speaker 3: of the reasons I'm still alive all these years later.
Speaker 3: Is I somehow have some sort of spirit sparkle around
Speaker 3: me that keeps me alive in certain situations. But I
Speaker 3: can sometimes look at people and know if they are
Speaker 3: full of shit, pull them up.
Speaker 1: Okay, go to YouTube. Go to YouTube right now.
Speaker 4: You know I have it on airplane mode. I can't
Speaker 4: do it. I'll do it later.
Speaker 1: If you go to YouTube and type in Rupert the Ghost, okay,
Speaker 1: you'll find some news stories that have two ladies in it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, my aunt Maggie and uncle Giky live
Speaker 3: in Wilmington and I go there once a year or so.
Speaker 3: But this year I meaning them in kay Cod, so
Speaker 3: I won't be going there. But damn now I wish
Speaker 3: I was going to Wilmington this year. I just do
Speaker 3: my own psychic research. And you know, I would like
Speaker 3: be like the little ghost detective, and I would I would.
Speaker 4: I guess I shouldn't say all this because now they'll know.
Speaker 1: But like I'd like you to get to the bottom
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 3: I could get my magnifying glass out of my dear
Speaker 3: stalker cap like like like a Sherlock pancake.
Speaker 1: Well, the last thing I'll say about this. We could
Speaker 1: say whatever we want, but to Rebecca and her reality, Sure,
Speaker 1: she's she's got two lovers, uh huh and eight hundred
Speaker 1: and forty seven thousand followers. I don't have any of that.
Speaker 4: She wins.
Speaker 1: So I say, good for you, Rebecca, you get the
Speaker 1: last laugh. Sure, people please follow me and people please
Speaker 1: date me.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 3: I am curious what the movie will be like, if
Speaker 3: it will be like a Lifetime movie Network melodrama starring
Speaker 3: Tory Spelling, Georgiana Brewster and you know, the paranormal outline
Speaker 3: of like I don't.
Speaker 1: Know Mark, Paul Gossler.
Speaker 4: No, it's kind of maybe.
Speaker 1: Yes, blonde hair, blue eyes.
Speaker 4: Blonde hair, blue eyes, who's in English? She that's like that?
Speaker 3: Who could or at least could do a good accent.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of them out there. I
Speaker 3: keep picturing Ronan Pharaoh, but very tall, but he's you.
Speaker 1: Know what's so funny that they have a rendering in
Speaker 1: one of these videos and I was like, Wow, it's
Speaker 1: like Ronan Pharaoh, your psychic.
Speaker 4: See I have the Sean y'all.
Speaker 1: Oh, here's one other thing I'll say about them. From
Speaker 1: the interviews, that I've watched. They're happy people. They're very
Speaker 1: happy about it.
Speaker 4: Great.
Speaker 3: No, I do not begrudge anyone a happy relationship except
Speaker 3: for people that I'm in love with you or in
Speaker 3: love with me, and that doesn't include these three so far.
Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. Okay, Rupert was alive. He lived.
Speaker 4: I guess he died.
Speaker 3: In that form he's in now, still looking tall, gorgeous,
Speaker 3: six sixt' six breadcoat. You know, the British are coming.
Speaker 3: Get it, the British are coming. That's what she says
Speaker 3: every night.
Speaker 4: Anyway, My point is that was he married In real life?
Speaker 1: He was married to her.
Speaker 4: Oh do they have any descendants? Oh?
Speaker 1: Ooh, that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Did they have kids or their descendants? Because you know,
Speaker 4: I'm like.
Speaker 1: What if they find out that Catherine is like their
Speaker 1: great great granddaughter and.
Speaker 3: She's having an emotional relationship with her great great great
Speaker 3: great grandfather in o spells no, thank you well.
Speaker 1: But the only reason it's not super weird and out
Speaker 1: there is because that's part of kind of the plot
Speaker 1: of Back to the Future.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Leah Thompson, right right, right, ooh they used
Speaker 3: to creep me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 4: That was the point of it.
Speaker 1: I guess all right, well, I guess we're done with
Speaker 1: that story. But you know, I just it's it's my
Speaker 1: duty to report on the news.
Speaker 4: And I have one more question about that story. May
Speaker 4: I ask it? Please? Madam?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Rebecca was she? Is this her first relationship with a woman?
Speaker 4: I'm curious.
Speaker 1: You know, I only know so much.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, but why I'll do my own research.
Speaker 4: I can do that. I have the Internet at Mahau.
Speaker 4: I'll call doctor Google. I'll say, make me happy, doctor Google.
Speaker 1: But why would it? Why does that matter?
Speaker 4: I'm curious.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious about bisexuality. And you know, why not
Speaker 3: for me other people in my life.
Speaker 1: You know, it's my duty to report on LGBTQ paranormal news.
Speaker 4: Stories, and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1: We get about one every seven years. So, okay, Sam,
Speaker 1: I have a new segment on this show that we
Speaker 1: recently premiered with my dear friend Lagonja Estrongia, and I
Speaker 1: want the listeners to know it's not something I'm going
Speaker 1: to do all the time, but it's a very fun
Speaker 1: segment that we are calling bast Or bust O. Sam,
Speaker 1: You're familiar with cryptid creatures.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm into it, all of it.
Speaker 1: Now where you're from, did you have any local ones
Speaker 1: in Romney, West Virginia, I mean not super far from
Speaker 1: where the famous.
Speaker 3: Moth Man now the Mothman, even though the bridge disaster
Speaker 3: in Fort Pleasant, West Virginia's the moth Man is mainly
Speaker 3: known for, and it was in the movie version that
Speaker 3: happened in West Virginia the seventies.
Speaker 4: At Christmas sixties.
Speaker 3: However, Mothman was reported not just all over the America,
Speaker 3: but all over West Virginia. I, however, have not had
Speaker 3: any spottings. I mean our town wasn't is filled with characters,
Speaker 3: But no, we did not have a crypt a local
Speaker 3: cryptid that we all, you know, would gossip and chortle about.
Speaker 1: But these exist all over the world. There's so many
Speaker 1: of them. Mothman is definitely one of the big influencers, sure,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of little ones. Actually, one that
Speaker 1: we had last time we did this for Beast or
Speaker 1: Bust was a creature in Canada called and this is real, Sam,
Speaker 1: the Dildo Monster of Dildo Pond.
Speaker 3: Why are you making shit up to actively provoke me
Speaker 3: on the air?
Speaker 1: There are news articles from the fifties about the dildo
Speaker 1: Monster of Dildo Pond. So they have all kinds of names.
Speaker 1: The names are part of the fun. I think there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of these creatures out there. You're familiar with
Speaker 1: this concept. So what I'm going to do is, I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you four and with a little, a
Speaker 1: little tiny write up on each one description. All right,
Speaker 1: one of them is real, three of them are fake,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me which one is
Speaker 1: the real one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I would never have guessed dildo dildo Head
Speaker 3: comes out of Dildo Lake and puts a dildo in you.
Speaker 3: I would never guess that. So you're already, you know,
Speaker 3: just stumping me.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's play bush or bust bust. Okay, first monster,
Speaker 1: the Dingleberry bush Beater. It's a sasquatch type humanoid. This
Speaker 1: beast got its name after several sightings hiding in the
Speaker 1: overgrown dingleberry trees of eastern Mississippi in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Ranch claims he was physically attacked by the Dingleberry
Speaker 1: bush Beater, but ultimately the crusty creature skidded away without
Speaker 1: leaving a mark. Wow, that's the Dingleberry bush beater.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget that as long as I live.
Speaker 1: The next one. The cream pie Creeper of Cleveland, said
Speaker 1: to resemble a four foot long prehistoric bird. In nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty three, several reports of encounters with this freaky flyer
Speaker 1: were made in a span of three months. In two
Speaker 1: of those instances, the bird was busted pecking its packer
Speaker 1: into homemade baked goods. Always creamy in nature.
Speaker 4: That sounds like me. I love creamy. I've got a
Speaker 4: creamy twos. What's the name of the goddamn thing again?
Speaker 1: The cream pie Creeper of Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Creami Creeper of Cleveland. The other game could be is
Speaker 3: it a cryptid? Or is it a Roger Korman movie
Speaker 3: from the early sixties?
Speaker 1: Remember that one time and our old game show we
Speaker 1: used to do on stage, we did is it a
Speaker 1: drag queen or a Kentucky Derby horse?
Speaker 3: That's right, And sometimes you look at them and you
Speaker 3: can't tell the difference. That's the fun thing when you
Speaker 3: look at the side by side of the horse and
Speaker 3: the queen, like whitch you got me?
Speaker 1: Going back to living for the dead, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was ever made clear that the episode we
Speaker 1: did at the theater in Louisville, and I have the
Speaker 1: giant hats on. That's because there were all these stores
Speaker 1: that we were staying by that were selling Kentucky Derby hats,
Speaker 1: and so I had to buy a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: So that's why I have those big hats on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that's the big hat thing. And I
Speaker 3: just stayed at a country house in England.
Speaker 1: Now that's kind a game.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, Well, I was going to tell more stories
Speaker 3: about myself that have no relation to the topic at all.
Speaker 4: I don't like if you've met me, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Okay, the next one the Yukon beaver Eater. This gigantic
Speaker 1: swamp monster is said to resemble a nine foot tall
Speaker 1: sloth with a long tail known for feasting primarily on beavers.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighties, a woman named don Charlie said
Speaker 1: her husband had to use protection to keep the hairy
Speaker 1: beaver eater at bay. And then can I call what
Speaker 1: Sam down, Charlie? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can we just go through this and decide if the
Speaker 3: names are real or not of the extra human beings
Speaker 3: before we get to the goddamn cryptids, the cream pike,
Speaker 3: you know, beaver snackers.
Speaker 1: Last one, Yeah, the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckler, described as
Speaker 1: a three legged, half man, half moose.
Speaker 4: Now I'm listening.
Speaker 1: This horned horror stalked a hiker named Jim Wentworth in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six for over an hour, hurling nuts in
Speaker 1: Jim's direction. That's the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckle. Okay, So, Sam,
Speaker 1: which one is real? Out of the Dingleberry bush beater,
Speaker 1: the cream Pie creeper of Cleveland, the Yukon beaver eater,
Speaker 1: or the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckler. One of these has
Speaker 1: been reported for real.
Speaker 4: So you promised me that one of these is real.
Speaker 1: Well real in the sense that it has been No.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that is an actual described event that
Speaker 3: someone witnessed, or so they say, yes, and three others
Speaker 3: are some genius made up Yes, Okay.
Speaker 4: Cream Pie, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: There are beavers in the Yukon, I imagine Dingleberry Bush. I've
Speaker 3: never heard of a Dingleberry bush other than you know,
Speaker 3: Dingleberry's down south on a human being. Don Charlie though,
Speaker 3: that like that name sounds so bizarre, it has to
Speaker 3: be real.
Speaker 4: However, I'm going to pick the beaver eater.
Speaker 1: You are correct, the Yukon beaver eater. Are you serious? Yes,
Speaker 1: that is a real creature that has been reported in
Speaker 1: the Yukon Territory of Canada. And it's been something since
Speaker 1: you know, First Nation people have reported this, this creature
Speaker 1: and it's still to this day. I mean in the
Speaker 1: mid eighties, I'm reading from the Pine Barren Institute dot com.
Speaker 1: In the mid eighties, there was an encounter with a
Speaker 1: woman named Don Charlie. She says she told her story
Speaker 1: about how her sister in law and her sister in
Speaker 1: law's husband and her sister in law Charlie, Charlie, mother, Charlie, Charlie,
Speaker 1: the whole Charlie family, Charles, Charlie.
Speaker 4: Charlie and Charlie Charlie. I'm familiar Yukon gold you know that,
Speaker 4: Charlie's Yeah, they got a chocolate factory.
Speaker 1: Charlie bit me. So they were all fishing at Tatchin
Speaker 1: Lake when a large brown animal that looked like a
Speaker 1: bear in size, but it had the long tail of
Speaker 1: like some kind of other creature, and it had like.
Speaker 4: A super beaver, like a giant beaver beast, I.
Speaker 1: Guess, And it had a flat face. It exited the
Speaker 1: woods and it came at them in a fast speed,
Speaker 1: and the creature had long claws on its front paws.
Speaker 1: And all three of the witnesses got out of the way,
Speaker 1: and the woman's husband grabbed a gun and shot at it.
Speaker 1: As the two women ran toward the boat, he fired
Speaker 1: one more shot at the creature. It jumped into the
Speaker 1: boat and it lumbered its way back into the woods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they say that it fasts on beavers.
Speaker 3: Sure, I don't, but some people do. Okay, let me
Speaker 3: ask you something, miss ma'am. Where do you stand on cryptids?
Speaker 3: I don't think we've talked about We've talked a lot
Speaker 3: about psychics and ghosts in our times together, but where
Speaker 3: are you with cryptids?
Speaker 1: Usually what it comes down to for me is that
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these creatures, if they
Speaker 1: the only way I could entertain them existing is if
Speaker 1: they're magical in some nature and can disappear or perhaps
Speaker 1: can teleport or something. And that's why we have not
Speaker 1: found them and captured them in cages the way that
Speaker 1: we would with it. Animal.
Speaker 3: May I propose what I think, sure because of the
Speaker 3: thing and I heard this on a podcast recently and
Speaker 3: it might have been yours. But like how there haven't
Speaker 3: been that we know of a lot of bones or
Speaker 3: fossils found. One of my theories is that they and
Speaker 3: I'm speaking mostly about North American mammalian type creatures like
Speaker 3: sasquatch or the beaver snacker is the beaver buster is
Speaker 3: they live in underground colonies and caves that have been
Speaker 3: yet undiscovered or people that have gone in there have
Speaker 3: gotten eaten and never returned. And I think that's why
Speaker 3: we don't find their bones, because they're civilizations to the
Speaker 3: degree that they are civil as as are deep underground.
Speaker 1: But wouldn't we find a big hole somewhere.
Speaker 3: But they're good about you know, they've been around forever,
Speaker 3: so they're good about, you know, in terms of survival.
Speaker 3: They're good about surviving in general, and they figured out
Speaker 3: how to you know, protect themselves, but you know, in general.
Speaker 4: The more I think about ghosts and all the.
Speaker 3: Different podcasts I listened to about psychic phenomenon and supernatural
Speaker 3: phenomenon and the paranormal is I'm kind of a strong
Speaker 3: believer in my beliefs lately have have kind of swung
Speaker 3: into the parallel universe or whatever you want to say,
Speaker 3: Like the energy is from Like it's more about dimensions
Speaker 3: of time, way more about that than about like a
Speaker 3: person who died seventeen or seventy hundred years ago walking
Speaker 3: through the hallway of.
Speaker 1: A house and starts a relationship with a lesbian couple.
Speaker 3: Well, hooray for everybody, But I think it's more about
Speaker 3: that than it's about I don't know, like spoiler alert
Speaker 3: for the other the movie, which is twenty years old,
Speaker 3: to get over it. But like that kind of thing
Speaker 3: where like they're existing kind of you know, they think,
Speaker 3: like you said, they think they're alive and in their place,
Speaker 3: and maybe they are. I guess it's really not like
Speaker 3: the others, so I take that back, but like it's
Speaker 3: like time dimensions overlapping, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: can happen that's unexplained. That's that's my thoughts and theories
Speaker 1: on it, is that that's one of the things. But
Speaker 1: another thing can be like energy left over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Because you know, another thing I like to entertain is
Speaker 1: that cryptids are the ghosts of old creatures that used
Speaker 1: to roam the circle. Oh yeah, and that's why we
Speaker 1: can't cutch them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Why wouldn't there be Why wouldn't there
Speaker 3: be cryptid ghosts?
Speaker 4: There should be.
Speaker 1: You hear about cat ghosts all the time. People's you do,
Speaker 1: cats lingering around and their little dogs licking them and stuff.
Speaker 1: So why not because.
Speaker 4: I don't know as much about that? Oh I do,
Speaker 4: I'll bet you too.
Speaker 1: Another thing that happen is people, after they die, they
Speaker 1: can end up trapped in a doll that gets sold
Speaker 1: on eBay.
Speaker 4: I've heard tell of this. I have heard tell of this.
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living, Okay, Sam, we
Speaker 1: got a fun one today.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: This is fun because it only has one photo, well,
Speaker 1: it has two photos in one. There is an AI
Speaker 1: sort of rendering of what the ghost looks like that's
Speaker 1: inside of this doll, and then there is the doll
Speaker 1: as well. His name is Warren. He is currently up
Speaker 1: for sale for three hundred and eighty eight dollars and
Speaker 1: eighty eight cents.
Speaker 4: Oh very specific.
Speaker 1: Gee, how can you show us Warren? Please?
Speaker 4: Oh fancy? Oh wow, he's like the Boy. He's almost
Speaker 4: like the boy in that movie The Boy.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember, I feel like I saw that in theaters.
Speaker 3: Or he's also kind of like a Victor Victoria, like
Speaker 3: it might be a a.
Speaker 4: Woman playing a man playing a woman.
Speaker 1: Very Victor Victoria to me, because it's a feminine face.
Speaker 3: I mean there's blush, Yeah, there's blush. There's a lip,
Speaker 3: there's a bee stung lip. Yeah, there is a lash,
Speaker 3: but a faint brow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, sort of a swoopy little hair, uh huh.
Speaker 1: And then a very fitted, uh tuxedo, probably with tails.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's almost like a lady tux The hands are
Speaker 3: in a position of like the ballet.
Speaker 4: It's not second it's like, uh not an arabesque.
Speaker 3: I can't remember my ballet, it's been a while, but
Speaker 3: it's a very like posed, poised, uh, outstretched hand as
Speaker 3: if you were going to start flapping them and fly
Speaker 3: into the into the you know, atmosphere.
Speaker 4: The shoe is very polished.
Speaker 1: But then on the left we have the the rendering
Speaker 1: and of course it's always uh. Folks. You can go
Speaker 1: to ghosted by Ras on Instagram under the little story
Speaker 1: tab called duh you can see what we're talking about. Uh,
Speaker 1: so this is the rendering, and they have a very
Speaker 1: handsome man in a suit who is in a casino.
Speaker 4: It's he's so, he's tall, he's Fanny's lean.
Speaker 3: He's also wearing a suit similar to the Tuck situation
Speaker 3: that the Warren the doll is wearing. This man is
Speaker 3: in a casino way more max very masking, kind of
Speaker 3: brat rap sorry not bratt ratpack. Handsome in a very
Speaker 3: like I'm almost gonna say, Ricky Martin, sort of Robin Thick,
Speaker 3: Ricky Martin, Robin Thick, though Robin much handsomer than Robin Thick.
Speaker 4: Josh Jamel almost or JFK Junior John John Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty hot. So he has a story and
Speaker 1: he's got an interesting one.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So here's what they've written about Warren. It says, mate
Speaker 1: Warren a man who's luck seems almost supernatural. Oh. A
Speaker 1: former lottery winner. Oh, Warren was as familiar with the
Speaker 1: casino as he was with his own home, often securing
Speaker 1: wins from hundreds to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not
Speaker 1: only did luck favor him, but Warren also possessed a
Speaker 1: prophetic ability to foresee outcomes, naturally gaining insights that eluded most.
Speaker 1: He often joked about his prophetic skills, amazed at how
Speaker 1: he could navigate risks that typically led others to loss.
Speaker 1: Warren's profound knowledge and intuition made him an invaluable guide
Speaker 1: for those facing financial decisions. He had a knack for
Speaker 1: predicting the outcomes of risky ventures with uncanny accuracy, often
Speaker 1: warning others off paths that would lead to failure. Over
Speaker 1: the years, Warren tried to convince me to start trading,
Speaker 1: citing numerous rags to riches stories he had facilitated to others. However,
Speaker 1: trading or gambling was never really my thing, which led
Speaker 1: Warren to express a desire to move on and assist
Speaker 1: the next owner. If you're hesitant to take risks due
Speaker 1: to potential losses involved, Warren is precisely the spirit you'd
Speaker 1: want in your home. His guidance can steer you towards
Speaker 1: long term stability. Okay, there's a lot, but okay, this
Speaker 1: now here's where it gets interesting. Warren loves engaging in
Speaker 1: discussions about politics, investing, and gambling. He has strong opinions
Speaker 1: about current affairs, particularly concerning President Joe Biden, whoa here
Speaker 1: we go, who he does not favor, arguing that he
Speaker 1: is not the right leader for America.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm checking out now.
Speaker 1: It's a shy at all. And he'll go on and
Speaker 1: on about these topics, making him a spirited and enlightening
Speaker 1: companion for anyone who enjoys robust debate. Tragically, basically, someone
Speaker 1: killed him after he left the casino one night. It
Speaker 1: says Warren's interests in politics, combined with his strong opinions,
Speaker 1: would make him an engaging companion for someone who enjoys
Speaker 1: in depth discussions on these topics. His insights and experiences
Speaker 1: could enrich debates and provide a unique perspective on current
Speaker 1: affairs and investment strategies. Could you imagine being in a
Speaker 1: debate with some people about politics and being like, well,
Speaker 1: the haunted doll I bought on ebaysas well.
Speaker 3: First of all, this description is longer than a Jonathan
Speaker 3: Friends in novel. First of all, who has time to
Speaker 3: write all that stuff? How does Warren? How does Warren
Speaker 3: and his little tuxedo communicate psychically?
Speaker 4: Does he talk out loud? Does he whisper? Whisper?
Speaker 1: I have so many you know that is not a
Speaker 1: lot of times they'll tell you. But I don't get that.
Speaker 3: This asks more questions than it answers.
Speaker 4: It you know, it ignites.
Speaker 1: Well, it's only three hundred and eighty eight dollars and
Speaker 1: eighty eight cents if you want the answers.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit around and talk to a barbie
Speaker 3: about whether Joe Biden should be present or not. Firstly,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ken, I'm not gonna do that. Also, I
Speaker 3: was afraid that this story was going in the direction
Speaker 3: of like, this is a person blaming a haunted doll
Speaker 3: for their gambling losses, but they said it's not their thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true or not right? What?
Speaker 4: Just what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes I fear that I'm doing bad for the
Speaker 1: paranormal kid highlighting these.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question about haunted dolls in general.
Speaker 3: Is it usually like this with a long description and
Speaker 3: someone with a vivid imagination and perhaps too much time
Speaker 3: on their hands and maybe they need a little electra
Speaker 3: tension just sits and makes all this shit up and
Speaker 3: then wants to get three hundred and eighty eight dollars
Speaker 3: and eighty eight cents on eBay, so they embroider a story.
Speaker 3: They hyperbolize, and I'm not saying this person did that.
Speaker 1: I imagine people buy them because this is every day, there's
Speaker 1: more and more of these.
Speaker 3: Well, the fact that like the AI rendering, as we're told,
Speaker 3: is incredibly handsome. I can see some lonely people might
Speaker 3: want to think that this gentleman is very handsomely rendered.
Speaker 3: Hotty is sitting down and talking to them all day
Speaker 3: and night about the stock market and the lottery and
Speaker 3: the you know, his disappointment in Joe Biden or whatever.
Speaker 1: Sure, the Joe Biden they killed me.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just like it's it might as well
Speaker 3: say his name is Donald J.
Speaker 4: Trump?
Speaker 1: Sam, What can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: What if?
Speaker 4: I said, absolutely not? Yes, No, I love this part.
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev please. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: how this works. I go to YouTube and I find
Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomena. Yeah, alleged recordings of ghosts speaking.
Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: So I've got two of them for you today, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to play them for you. Tell me what
Speaker 1: you hear, then I'll give you some options, one of
Speaker 1: them being the correct answer You already did well with
Speaker 1: the Yukon beaver eater beast or bust. So let's see.
Speaker 4: Well, if there's a person that knows about eating beaver's,
Speaker 4: it's me.
Speaker 1: Continue, that's not what I think of when I think
Speaker 1: of you. But here we go.
Speaker 4: Open up your mind, expand your horizons.
Speaker 1: This first one is from Archbishop James Cloud. That's the
Speaker 1: person's name on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, is that is.
Speaker 1: He from your parish? I don't know.
Speaker 4: He's not from my parish. My parish parish girl.
Speaker 1: Uh, the location is unknown. What is this ghost saying? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a very faint whisper.
Speaker 3: See, this ghost is saying nothing. This ghost is saying,
Speaker 3: let's listen again. It's saying words.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that?
Speaker 4: I hear something going.
Speaker 1: I know it's so faint.
Speaker 4: Let me give it again.
Speaker 1: Which is so creepy. Whispers really creep me out. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go.
Speaker 3: I hear a plosive consonant and it's it almost sounds
Speaker 3: like blo. See when you when I listen to your
Speaker 3: podcast or we've done these before in person, I get
Speaker 3: so influenced by It's like the confirmation bias or susceptibility,
Speaker 3: where like someone will say it sounds like this, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, it does sound like that, but it's.
Speaker 1: Hard for me to just pull it out of thin air. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is what the correct answer will be.
Speaker 3: I hear the whisper voices, I hear I hear the
Speaker 3: syllables going okay, so no, guess.
Speaker 4: Well, can I have it again? Or is that against
Speaker 4: the rules?
Speaker 1: Sure, here we go. I hear by.
Speaker 3: Bye, buy a pie, a cream pie, buy a oh,
Speaker 3: buy a pie.
Speaker 4: That's a strange instruction from a spirit.
Speaker 1: Okay, does Archbishop James Cloud think it was a my
Speaker 1: diet's done?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: B I died in here.
Speaker 2: Ce die all day?
Speaker 4: Oh shit?
Speaker 1: Or d Diane wete?
Speaker 4: Well that's what I would be. That's what I would
Speaker 4: be saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm just going to go die in
Speaker 4: west die all day. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It's the correct answer. Now that we know that. Let's listen.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, now I hear it, yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I hear it, die day. Okay. Here's another one.
Speaker 1: This one is from Haunted Finders on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Sure that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And they were doing a ghost tour with Calverton ghost Walks,
Speaker 1: which from what I believe from my research, is in Nottingham, UK.
Speaker 4: I've been there.
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 4: That gave me a chill?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's another whisper.
Speaker 4: It's a whisper.
Speaker 3: And it feels like there's water, like they were in
Speaker 3: a tub or a both a boss because it's England,
Speaker 3: you something storm. Maybe that's the water imagery influencing me.
Speaker 3: But that is vividly terrifying.
Speaker 1: I'll play it one more time and that'll give you
Speaker 1: some options.
Speaker 4: Okay, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? Rose?
Speaker 3: It feels like they're just like taking a long nailed
Speaker 3: finger and putting it inside your soul. When you hear
Speaker 3: these like it reverberates with me in a spiritual way,
Speaker 3: like and I'm not being funny.
Speaker 4: I'm never being funny. I'm not being funny. It's like
Speaker 4: now at this age, but I receive it. I'm being serious.
Speaker 3: I receive it in a way that it feels like
Speaker 3: it's a message, not to me specifically, but I get
Speaker 3: the impact of all the energy and creepy. Creepy is
Speaker 3: probably a I don't know, is that is that being
Speaker 3: you know, insulting to ghosts. But the the energy of
Speaker 3: the attempt to communicate chills me.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's from a human. It's
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It does not feel made up to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, next, you're going to tell me you're in a
Speaker 1: relationship with a ghost name Rupert.
Speaker 3: It's no, No, I'm not in a relationship with a ghost,
Speaker 3: Lame Rupert. I'm in a relationship with a cryptid name
Speaker 3: Rose Roseanne barbed Wire. She haunts the fences of Wyoming.
Speaker 3: Do you know about her?
Speaker 1: Oh? I forgot to shout out that beast Bust was
Speaker 1: originally conceived by me and our friend Jackie B. We
Speaker 1: were out to lunch and we were just naming off
Speaker 1: all these silly creatures. And Jackie B, of course, also
Speaker 1: known as the man Lady of Pasadena adjacent?
Speaker 4: Is that trip?
Speaker 1: Did name? Okay, now it's been so long, let me
Speaker 1: play it again. Yeah, did they think it was a
Speaker 1: you need a coster, you're gonna leave a ring on
Speaker 1: my table? Do they think it was b.
Speaker 2: Please come close, sir Ce, Please don't go, sir oh
Speaker 2: or d denise the poser you know, and you're like, Oh,
Speaker 2: Denise the poser.
Speaker 3: Do I ever, Oh, it's I want to say it's
Speaker 3: B or C, but I think it's Please come closer.
Speaker 4: Can I hear it again?
Speaker 1: Please? You are correct, it is please come closer. Now
Speaker 1: that we know that, let's listen. Oh my god, at
Speaker 1: least it's polite.
Speaker 4: So polite. I love the good manners, very English. I
Speaker 4: love the good manners.
Speaker 3: Please come closer, though I will not come closer because
Speaker 3: that felt like I was going to be drowned in
Speaker 3: a both tub.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go closer. What's it going to do to you?
Speaker 4: Kill you by well?
Speaker 1: Sam? Yes, I'm so happy that my mommy has joined
Speaker 1: me today.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 1: Thanks for being on for the third time. Can you
Speaker 1: please tell people what you got going on?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, in one minute or less.
Speaker 3: No, no, not that part. I am Sam Pancake. You
Speaker 3: can follow me on at the Sam Pancake on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I have a podcast called Sam Pancake Presents the Monday
Speaker 3: Afternoon Movie. It comes out monthly on a Monday, plus
Speaker 3: have a Patreon bonuses to come out monthly. It covers
Speaker 3: chiefly horror movies, all TV movies from the seventies, eighties,
Speaker 3: and nineties with sometimes a teenage wasteland movies thrown in,
Speaker 3: like teen trauma movies from the seventies and eighties. This
Speaker 3: October for a spooky season, I would love for you.
Speaker 4: To come on. No, you are going to come on.
Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that and cover the amazing BBC English
Speaker 3: documentary quote unquote ghost Watch.
Speaker 1: Oh I love ghost Watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to cover that in October, and
Speaker 3: then you know, just follow me Instagram. I'm always doing
Speaker 3: a lot of fun stuff and on stage and screen,
Speaker 3: and I would love for you to come and visit
Speaker 3: my pancake shop.
Speaker 4: That's not a euphemism. Oh, it is a euphemism. It's
Speaker 4: not sexual.
Speaker 1: That's all all right, Sam Well, I sure do love you.
Speaker 1: Oh I have shoot, I have one more question I
Speaker 1: had to ask.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 1: Would you sleep with a crab if you were in
Speaker 1: a pinch?
Speaker 4: I have a question. I'm going to answer your question
Speaker 4: with a question.
Speaker 3: Would you eat this curls Junior Hamburger if Dame Judy
Speaker 3: Dench had left her Dame Judy Dncher's in it again.
Speaker 1: These are the inside jokes people, Sam, I love you.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry we can't use any of this.
Speaker 4: Well, I still get paid, right right.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna pretend we're not seeing each other in
Speaker 3: like seven seventeen minutes?
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to see you tonight.
Speaker 3: I love you, I love your back bye, and I
Speaker 3: love your front all right bye?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Sam Padcake. Please go see me, honey.
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Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
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Speaker 1: startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Alex che.
Speaker 1: This episode was mixed and sound designed by the eerie
Speaker 1: Edson Choi. My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.
Speaker 1: Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten.
Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon.
Speaker 1: Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the
Speaker 1: spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.