1 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed? It's spooky, Hey jooky, I'm 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: I said, Ima nandaz Plase. Hey boo, it's me Roz 4 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez the podcast. Well, 5 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: I like to talk to people that I like about 6 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: the paranormal. I've got my dear dear friend Sam Pancake 7 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: back on the show, and boy do we have a 8 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: good time. So before we get to that, ooh, one 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: fun little announcement, I am going to be in San Francisco, 10 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: of all places, I'm going to be doing stand up 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: my new stand up tour jk Raffling. I will be 12 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: taking the show to San Francisco very soon. It's actually 13 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the twelfth and thirteenth of July. Get those tickets in 14 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: the link in my bio on Instagram. I'm going to 15 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: be at a cute little place called the Eclectic Box Theater. 16 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: And then right after that, on the fourteenth, I'm going 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: to Austin. Snatch up those tickets please. Okay, let's hear 18 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: a ghost story. This one's from Candice, who writes, my 19 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: parents sold my childhood home and ended up renting a 20 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: house down the road as they were looking for a 21 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: new house to reside in in Maryland, near the Bay. 22 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: The house they rented was a converted farmhouse that still 23 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: had some farmland behind it. I helped my parents move in, 24 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: and what struck me was that in the basement there 25 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: was a staircase leading to nowhere. It just cut off 26 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: at the seal. I don't remember how I came to 27 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: the conclusion that this means the house is haunted, but 28 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I told my mom right away I had a feeling 29 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: about this house. She did not acknowledge my remark. My 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: dad got sick and my parents ended up renting the 31 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: place for two years in order to stay near established 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: doctors that he was seeing. I would visit often from 33 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: DC to help my mom out with my dad, and 34 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: usually spent the weekends there. When I stayed, I would 35 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: always sleep in the back bedroom upstairs. One night, I 36 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: was watching TV in the bedroom and was dozing off. 37 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I finally turned off the TV and rolled over to 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: my side to go back to sleep. That's when I 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: felt someone climb into bed with me. I felt the 40 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: heaviness of someone sit and lay down while my back 41 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: was to them. It sounds crazy, but I knew it 42 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: was a man. Mind you, The only man that was 43 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: in the house was my dad, who was very sick 44 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: and couldn't walk. I then said up and turned the 45 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: TV back on to light up the room. No one 46 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: was there, but I felt him on the bed. I 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: whispered out loud, go away. Then suddenly the heaviness on 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: the bed was gone, but I had a weird feeling 49 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: that this man was still in the room. I left 50 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: the TV on the rest of the night and finally 51 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: fell back asleep. After that night, I would feel the 52 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: man's presence in that room, but I could tell he 53 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: respected the boundary. I made years of therapy to thank 54 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: for that. I never told my mom because I knew 55 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: she could only handle so much love. Candace, Oh my god. 56 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: First of all, the nerve of that ghost, that fool 57 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: was like, ooh, don't mind if I do. 58 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna crawl. 59 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Right on in here. And he knew he was wrong. 60 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: You said go away. He's like, Okay, my bad. Sorry, 61 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: just thought I would, just thought I would try it. 62 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: Good for you for putting up that boundary, and you 63 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: know what, that ghost. Good for them for respecting that 64 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: let's talk to Sam Pancake on with the show. Well, well, well, 65 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: I am once again joined by my platonic life partner, 66 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: my lawyer, my publicist, my general practitioner, terryodontist, my periodontris. Yes, 67 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Sam Pancake. 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: Your gardener and your chef. Good morning, miss Hernandez. 69 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: How are you. 70 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so good to see you. So wipe me? 71 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Last night, Sam, and I heard the song wipe Out, 72 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and as soon as the guy goes wipe about, I 73 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: just went wipe me. Now, I just keep saying that, 74 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: and I have a feeling that for the next hour 75 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: you and me are just going to be quoting inside jokes. 76 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: But don't worry, loyal listeners, We'll let you in on 77 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the jokes. 78 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: Well, the thing that happened was after that, it just 79 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: became as we were walking and then later over the 80 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: text machine in our hands, it just became different versions 81 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: of pop songs with diapering lyrics switched into them, which. 82 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: Sounds dumb but feels delicious. 83 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't smell great though. Now, well, Sam, thanks for 84 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: coming back. 85 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: Bras am I this is my third time. I think 86 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: is there a special Third Timers Club present or award. 87 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Or get a jacket when it's five. 88 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 3: Like an actual Satin Ros Fernandez branded roller rink jacket, 89 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: or the jacket of a baked potato skin that just 90 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: peeled off and mailed to you in a tiny envelope. 91 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: The second one perfect that or I just go through 92 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: and look at what kind of jackets I have and 93 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: then with a sharp l right five times for you here. 94 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: So keep working on it. Okay, well, we'll see how 95 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: this one goes. 96 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you the last time I did 97 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 3: it in another place. Your parents were in the room, 98 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: which can be a little intimidating. They're lovely, but I mean, 99 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: just like your best friend's parents are sitting there while 100 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: you're telling wacky stories, it's got to have an impact. 101 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: That is true. That was a weird family day at 102 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: the office. Yeah, my parents weren down, My dog was 103 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: with them. It was a whole situation. But today we 104 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: are gathered here to talk about I have so much 105 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: fun stuff for us to talk about today. But before 106 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: we get into it, do you have any Do you 107 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: have anything new lately? I mean, I feel like you're 108 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: always talking to some kind of healer or staying in 109 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: some kind of haunted hotel. 110 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 3: Sure, well, I mean I don't know that we've talked 111 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 3: about since last We did this on your podcast about 112 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: when we went to our friend the medium exorcist house 113 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: and my father came through at length. 114 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 115 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: We were sitting on hay bales. It was late. 116 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: I was uncomfortable in my booty area because hey, bail 117 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: and we were just waiting for anyone we know to 118 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: come through. But then I after what because it was 119 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: kind of cold, and I love it there and I 120 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: love our friends who do that. 121 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, our friends listening know the friend 122 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. It was our h Davis. Oh, 123 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: of course, of course. She just has these beautiful parties 124 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: where she invites really cool people and then she is like, okay, 125 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: now I'm going to do a reading and then she's like, 126 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: all right, someone over here, has anybody got a grandma? 127 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: Or whatever she does, and almost every time, I think, 128 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: every time, people start crying. Yeah, it's intense. 129 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: Well, you bring an object from the person, and I 130 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: happened to bring this pipe that was my father's. My 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: father passed away in January twenty eighteen. We weren't particularly close. 132 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: It's you know, a complicated relationship. But this particular night 133 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: we were at at our H. Davis's. A few people 134 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: had come through and there were tears and people were 135 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: It's usually the same people, the same guests at the 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: party's relatives come through to them or something about those 137 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: particular guests and friends of hers. They have folks on 138 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: the other side who need to talk to them. Now, 139 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: you and I haven't had that yet, particularly not at Rachel's, 140 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: I mean our H's. 141 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: But my people never want to talk to me period. 142 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Anywhere I go they're done. 143 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 4: I know, honey, I don't want to talk to you. 144 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, here we are. 145 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's so anyway, it was late. I was like, 146 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: you know, my ass hurt. We were cold, it was outside, 147 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh god, honey, I love it, 148 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: but I need to go home. And then she was like, oh, 149 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: this man's coming through grandfather fatherly energy early to mid eighties, 150 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh God, it's my father. 151 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: Tell them to stay there. 152 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: Then she said, because I had just done the I 153 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: had just done that sitcom that our friend Winny mccleinnon 154 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: Covey is on the Goldbergs, and I played an obgyn 155 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: like a couple months before that. I guess he had 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: just aired because then she said, oh, this person's saying 157 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: my son just played a doctor on TV. 158 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 4: And I was like, holy shit, I guess that's me. 159 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: And I don't remember handling the situation with grace or dignity. 160 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: That was just like, no, no, tell Daddy, just say 161 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 3: tell him. 162 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. 163 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: But also, oddly he saw me somehow wherever he is 164 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: on TV playing a doctor. Now, while this man was living, 165 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: he was not remotely interested in watching anything I did 166 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: on TV for the decades I had been on TV, 167 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: so that was nice. I went to one of your psychics. 168 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: I won't say where, I won't say the person's name. 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: This is before my father died. And that's when I 170 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: was like checking my watch, going like, hey, can any 171 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: of these psychics give me a heads up when my 172 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: daddy's going to go Because he was in a home. 173 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: He was ailing, he had dementia, he had leukemia, and 174 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: he was just hanging in there because he I love 175 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: the nursing home. He would say, because he could speak. 176 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: He had dementia, but he could communicate, and he would 177 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: say like, this is my relaxation time. He loved it there, 178 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: so he wasn't in any hurry to go. So I 179 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: would ask a psychic, can you give me a day 180 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: in time? Because I got scheduling, I got shows to do. 181 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: And so this particular psychic said, your grandfather, your father's father, 182 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 3: is on the other side, waving a sausage at your father, 183 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 3: and I just I blacked out from all the family 184 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: phallic imagery. 185 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't do that. 186 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: Did your dad enjoy eating sausages? 187 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he was a carnivore. 188 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: He was a hunter, because was he like, come on, 189 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: get the sausage, come on to the other side. 190 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: Hey like could be a good dog, which is kind 191 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: of creepy. 192 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: It's what you do to a dog to make them, 193 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, get out of the outhouse or whatever. And 194 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: what So cut back to a couple of years ago 195 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,479 Speaker 3: in a minute, just let it got a played. 196 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: A doctor on TV. My father, I guess saw me. 197 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: Sure, I mean maybe he liked that I was playing 198 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: an obgyn, which I woke into the details around that 199 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: part of his dement. She was being inappropriate around women 200 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: at the end. So anyway, he had a lot to say. 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: And one of our other friends that was there Callas 202 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: recorded some of it, which I didn't even think to 203 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: record it, which was so dumb. And then I sent 204 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: that recording to my older sister who was much more 205 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: in touch with the spirit world. And she's a healer 206 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: and she does different rituals and traditions and sweat lodges 207 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: and stuff that she's like, what's the word not registered, 208 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: but she's like approved to do. It's part of her 209 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: spiritual odyssey and her leadership in this particular realm. And 210 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: she was like, from what I heard, that was Daddy. 211 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: Different words he said made me very much believe it 212 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: was him, So she was very convinced. And they were 213 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: a lot closer than he and I were, so I 214 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: trusted her. So it was pretty profound and it really 215 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: gave both of us because he apologized a lot, you know, 216 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: if you remember, he was like, I'm sorry for the 217 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: way I behaved. 218 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: It was very backward. 219 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: The men in my family were very backward because this 220 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: is people don't know, this was small town, rural West Virginia. 221 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, the attitudes are pretty backwards. 222 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: The specifics of me being gaging come up, but that's 223 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: what we felt maybe it was. So that was pretty 224 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: pretty moving and I still have those recordings the Calak 225 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: sent me. 226 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: So that happened recently. 227 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: Another friend of mine, my friend Joe Mom and Nitsburg, 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: had gone to a psychic in New York, and a 229 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: bunch of our mutual friends, two of whom died from 230 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: age related causes in the nineties, came through. And then 231 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: my friend Mark Randall, who passed away also of age 232 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: related causes in twenty seventeen, literally a year to almost 233 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: the date before my father passed away. 234 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: And he just came through and I Joe said, he 235 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: just sends love. 236 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: And then Joe has more to tell me about the 237 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: other friends, which I haven't gotten to talk to him about. 238 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 4: So that just happened. 239 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: And Mark is the friend who I've lost a lot 240 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: of friends sadly, because you know, I'm a gay man 241 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: of a certain age and aids and you know, sex 242 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: dougs and rock roll lifestyle throughout the years. You know, 243 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: we've lost a lot of people. But Mark's the one 244 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: I think of every day and talk to in my 245 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: mind a lot, because we just had so many fun 246 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: little bits and bobs and songs and lyrics and. 247 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 4: Such like you and I have, so that that meant 248 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: a lot to me. 249 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: And you've been traveling. Have you stayed in any haunted? 250 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Oh you stayed at the Fister. 251 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Milwaukee, the p Fista, which I had not a 252 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: great experience. 253 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: We first covered the Fister Hotel in Milwaukee when I 254 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: had the very gay paint guys on the first time. 255 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Go back and listen. It's so funny. I want to say. 256 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: That was like twenty twenty two sometime. Yes, the Fister 257 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Hotel founded by Guido Fister. How was it for you? 258 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: Because they say it's very haunted. 259 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you what haunted me. 260 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: The goddamn bass in the wedding reception that was directly 261 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: over my head. 262 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: The basement of the music. 263 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the music, the ghost of the music, the 264 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: ghost of the apple bottom gene boots with the fur 265 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: or we're body, We're looking at her like all your 266 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: wedding reception twenty twenty four greatest hits. Okay, here's what 267 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: happened on a book tour with my other best beautiful 268 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: raven haired friend, Lauren Graham, Dame Lauren Graham. 269 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Who one of these days I will force to come 270 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: out this podcast. I still have not given her the 271 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Jerry summons. 272 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: Under penalty of law, she has to appear. I mean, 273 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: I can't speak for her, but we have not. I 274 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: mean I've never heard her talk about ghosty stuff and 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: while I have. Okay, all right, So anyway, Hotel Fister, 276 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: this is in April. 277 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: We're doing a show in Milwaukee. 278 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: We had done a show in Chicago in the afternoon, 279 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: and then we drove because Milwaukee and Chicago only an 280 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: hour half away. Who knew besides everyone but me and 281 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: everyone at Milwaukee and Chicago. The drive during which you 282 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: passed the amazing mars Cheese Castle, which is another story 283 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: that's for your Dairy Product podcast, not. 284 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: For this one. And we got to the Fister really late. 285 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: It's very it's still like it was built when Guido 286 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: put it together. It's very like fancy murals, that kind 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: of robber baron eighteen nineties, you know, the Gilded Age. 288 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 4: Not my taste. Bom am I saying bad things? I 289 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: don't know. 290 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: So we get there late to the Fister, which I 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: knew from lavern and Shirley growing up. It was the 292 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: fancy hotel Laverne and Shirley would know in the Vernon 293 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: Shirley show, which I grew up on in the seventies 294 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: and loved. 295 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: And so we go. 296 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: We have some bar bites drinks, you know, we had 297 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: our own respective mock tailor cocktail. 298 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: That we enjoy. 299 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: We went up to our rooms on our suits, thank you, 300 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: on the seventh floor. We're just going to be there 301 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: one night. We have a show the next day in 302 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: the afternoon. We get off on the elevator and there's 303 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: this booming, booming, booming music, and I was like, what 304 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: the hell, And so we go into her suite and 305 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 3: we can't hear in her suite right, So I'm like, oh, 306 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure mine'll be fine. 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 4: I walk down the hall to my suite, louder louder. 308 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: Every footstep brings my eyeball with more reverberations, and you know, 309 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: wolf for tweet boom. I don't know how speakers work, 310 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: but whatever the base is. I go into my suite, 311 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: which was fine. The hotel been recently fancied up. I 312 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: did not mind the room. The products smell good, it 313 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: was clean. TV had Turner classic movies on, and murder. 314 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: She wrote, I'm happy. However, it was booming so hard 315 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: over my head that I'm not a complainer. 316 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: I called the front desk. I'm like, what is going on. 317 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: They're like, oh yeah, there's a wedding reception up there 318 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: till midnight. And I was like, what can I get 319 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: a different suite? No, no, no, we're all booked up. 320 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Clearly they were used to this as a fister, and 321 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: I almost yelped about it like a true Karen, but 322 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: I didn't. But I guess I'm doing that now with 323 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: my mouth out loud on a podcast. They clearly had 324 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: had lots of complaints of this nature before because this hotel, 325 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: the ballrooms are on the top floor above the fancy suites, 326 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: which I assume was from back in the day where 327 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: all the ballrooms contained was like you know, Waltzes and 328 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: Mozart and you know, Shoeberd and whoever was doing their 329 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: funky dance tunes at the time. 330 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: She had a hoopskirt dress. 331 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 4: Bustle with a fur eddy coats on the floor. Everybody 332 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: was curtsying. 333 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: At her, so there was just nothing to be done, 334 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: she said. The woman at the front desk said I 335 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: could have them turn it down a little bit. I'm like, yeah, 336 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're gonna turn it down. With the wedding reception. 337 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: It was Louie Louie. It was dancing Queen. Literally, the 338 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: mirrors were shaking in the room. The bed was vibrating, 339 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: and not in a magic fingers good way, and not 340 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: because I was not alone. 341 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: The ghosts doing that, they were dancing along. 342 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: They definitely were. 343 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: I have videos, the most boring videos in the world 344 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: that I took of, like the doors and the mirror 345 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 3: shaking while I'm watching murder. She wrote, Jessica solving a 346 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: crime and I am trying not to cry. 347 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 4: Now. 348 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: I don't fall asleep eusies oft to midnight anyway, so 349 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: it wasn't that disastrous. 350 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 4: But I was like, this is ridiculous. 351 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: All right, we gotta get to some ghosts. 352 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: Well, I just had a lot of hotel grievances I 353 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: had to. 354 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: Issue to the public. 355 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Okay, I've got a really exciting story that 356 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe. I don't know these 357 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: people personally, because this is a story that recently hit 358 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: the news that concerns queer paranormal people. And I don't 359 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: think I'm speaking out of turn when I say that 360 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: you are a member of the LGBT community. 361 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: Just don't tell my lovely wife, Carolyn, she will be 362 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: so pithy with me. 363 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Karen Cogareff Carolyn, Oh, Carolyn, Yes. 364 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 4: Oh, I wish Karen Cogarriff was my wife. I've said 365 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: it to her before. I hope she hears this. 366 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: So let's just get into this one, because I'm so 367 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: curious what you're gonna have to say. 368 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: No, oh no. 369 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: So recently there was a British TV show that brought 370 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: attention to this story, a morning show called This Morning. 371 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: And also that's where I got most of my information from. 372 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: But also there's a video of this story, a separate 373 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: video on a YouTube channel called Love Don't Judge. 374 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: Oh sure. 375 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: So this story takes place in North Carolina. We've got 376 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: a young woman named Rebecca. She is a psychic and 377 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: a ghost tour guide. 378 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 4: Great. 379 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty, she's walking past a local historic 380 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: home in Wilmington. 381 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: I was just say, is this swim mcton? 382 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 3: Because the woman see, it's very haunted and my aunt, 383 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: uncle and cousins live there, and you know, I go 384 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: there a lot. 385 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: Continue. 386 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: So, after her shift is up of her ghost tour, 387 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: she's walking home and she notices sort of the outline 388 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: of a man ghost, and he's like, hey, are you alone? 389 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Would you like me to escort you? 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 4: And she's was that English or Southern? You were trying 391 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: to do a little bit of both? Sure? Okay. 392 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: So this man's six foot six, blonde hair, blue eyes, 393 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: he has a red coat on turns out he was 394 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: a Revolutionary War soldier that was stationed there. His name 395 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: is Rupert. 396 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: What how does she get all this information? 397 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: Well, she's a psychic, got it and a ghost to 398 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: her guide. 399 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 4: I missed the psychic part or I just chose to 400 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: forget continue. 401 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: So basically they start a relationship, the two of them. 402 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, he's if he's red coat, he's 403 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: British and so maybe that's why you're trying to do 404 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: a British accent. 405 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. Yes, he's from Wales, Wales, he's Welsh. 406 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: He's okay. 407 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 3: Well they were the enemy at the time, so she's 408 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: literally Julia Roberts sleeping with the enemy. 409 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 4: Well, who's also a ghost. 410 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: This is how things get interesting. They start a. 411 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: Fine I'm already interested, I know. 412 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: So they start when they get interested. Just wait, no, 413 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: So they start a relationship and she ends up going 414 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: to a past life regression session. Ed finds out that 415 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: she actually knew him in seventeen eighty one in a 416 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: past life because they were married. 417 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: Wow. 418 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: And he's just this very respectful gentleman. He's all about 419 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: respecting her boundaries and consent. And I guess since she's 420 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: a psychic, she's able to just like kind of call 421 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: him up. 422 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: Make all that up, I mean, just receive all that 423 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: from him and her psychic abilities. 424 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: Sure. 425 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: So here's where things get really interesting. God, she's talking 426 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: about all this stuff on TikTok, which, by the way, 427 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: at the time of this recording, she has eight hundred 428 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: and forty seven thousand followers. 429 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: Wow. 430 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: She gets the attention of a follower on TikTok named Catherine, 431 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: and Catherine's a paranormal investigator. Long story short, the two 432 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: of them fall in love. 433 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 4: Oh come on, now, what next? 434 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: It becomes a throuple with a ghost, a lesbian thruple 435 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: with a ghost. 436 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 4: Man. 437 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 3: I don't know how graphic I can get in what 438 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: I want to say about this throupling. 439 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want. 440 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: I have so many thoughts and so many feelings express them, 441 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: so many questions and a number of doubts. 442 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: It calls to attention, your catchphrase, your slogan, hooray for everybody? 443 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: What we will put on your tombstone one day? Yeah, 444 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: which is yes, hooray for everybody. 445 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know me live and lit love. 446 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: But what was your question? 447 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 3: Okay, this is current, like, this is like, oh it's happening? 448 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: Is Christopher? What's what's the ghost name? Andrew Grouper? Sure, 449 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: that's yeah, that sounds that's British. It's very British. He's 450 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: cool with this because you think about back then, he'll 451 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: be like ladies fingering each other with their little mucos out. 452 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: This would very much shock and calls me great dismiss, dismiss, dismay. 453 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: However, miladies like to pocket their lips. 454 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Upon each other's jerdies and lily pads, and I, as 455 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: a soldier, can only say, hurrah? 456 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 4: Is that what happened? How does he participate? 457 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Is he present in the room when they're like making sweet, 458 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: beautiful love? 459 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: So from what I've gathered, Rebecca and Rupert have more 460 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: of an emotional relationship, sure, girl, but he is okay 461 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: with the other relationship. 462 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 463 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: And they actually they all hang out, the three of them. 464 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Rebecca has her alone time with Rupert, and she goes 465 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: on walks with him. Sure, but then the three of 466 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: them go to historic places, you know, they travel and stuff. 467 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: So maybe they've been to the Fister. 468 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 4: They did fist her. 469 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: Anyway, the second lady that joined this is Catherine. Can 470 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 3: she see him corporeally? Can she experience him in the 471 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: same way Rebecca does? 472 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: No, But since she is a PARANORLM investigator, she's got 473 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: toys and equipment. 474 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I'll bet she does all kinds and alsots donning. 475 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: She's used her toys and equipment to speak with Rupert. 476 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: And actually she says that when she started developing feelings 477 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: for Rebecca, she consulted Rupert and told him, listen, Rupert, 478 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: I hope you're okay with this. 479 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: Welcome to twenty twenty four, babe. 480 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: Things they're different, yeah, yeah, And apparently he's fine with that. 481 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: He says that he's he's okay with it. 482 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 3: Well, according to her, he's fine with it. We only 483 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: hear from him through her. 484 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: So they have spirit box sessions and stuff. You know, 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: they've they've done different things for the eight hundred and 486 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: forty seven thousand followers, and you know, they believe they 487 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: have proof of Rupert's you know, with his dry sense 488 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: of humor he apparently has. 489 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: Sure, sure, well, he's pretty dry all over. 490 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: If he's a ghost, all of it's pretty dry, unless 491 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: he's a slimer. 492 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: Ew well, slimermers or squirters allowed. 493 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: So, oh, that's a sign in your bedroom. 494 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: I'm remembering where he saw that before, on your bedroom 495 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: door of your giant round bed. 496 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: So people online, of course, got a lot to say, 497 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of people say that these two are 498 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: just mentally unwell. But they've met a lot of people 499 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: that praise them for speaking out about this type of 500 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: relationship and making them not feel alone. And they're becoming 501 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: advocates for this type of relationship. And I say, hooray 502 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: for everyone. I say all relationships are valid and beautiful. 503 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: I always say all are beautiful except for mine. 504 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 3: And all relationships are valid except for this one. 505 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm calling bullshit. 506 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: No, I'm not, so you don't believe this. 507 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: Here's me, babe, you know me. I woant to take 508 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: a look at see what these two look like. I 509 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 3: have very good intuition. I've got a bit of a 510 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 3: shine myself. I finally realize that I think that's one 511 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: of the reasons I'm still alive all these years later. 512 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: Is I somehow have some sort of spirit sparkle around 513 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: me that keeps me alive in certain situations. But I 514 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: can sometimes look at people and know if they are 515 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: full of shit, pull them up. 516 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: Okay, go to YouTube. Go to YouTube right now. 517 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: You know I have it on airplane mode. I can't 518 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: do it. I'll do it later. 519 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: If you go to YouTube and type in Rupert the Ghost, okay, 520 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: you'll find some news stories that have two ladies in it. 521 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know, my aunt Maggie and uncle Giky live 522 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: in Wilmington and I go there once a year or so. 523 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: But this year I meaning them in kay Cod, so 524 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: I won't be going there. But damn now I wish 525 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: I was going to Wilmington this year. I just do 526 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: my own psychic research. And you know, I would like 527 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 3: be like the little ghost detective, and I would I would. 528 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 4: I guess I shouldn't say all this because now they'll know. 529 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: But like I'd like you to get to the bottom 530 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: of this. 531 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: I could get my magnifying glass out of my dear 532 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: stalker cap like like like a Sherlock pancake. 533 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: Well, the last thing I'll say about this. We could 534 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: say whatever we want, but to Rebecca and her reality, Sure, 535 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: she's she's got two lovers, uh huh and eight hundred 536 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: and forty seven thousand followers. I don't have any of that. 537 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: She wins. 538 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: So I say, good for you, Rebecca, you get the 539 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: last laugh. Sure, people please follow me and people please 540 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: date me. 541 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 4: Sure. 542 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: I am curious what the movie will be like, if 543 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: it will be like a Lifetime movie Network melodrama starring 544 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: Tory Spelling, Georgiana Brewster and you know, the paranormal outline 545 00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: of like I don't. 546 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Know Mark, Paul Gossler. 547 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 4: No, it's kind of maybe. 548 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Yes, blonde hair, blue eyes. 549 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Blonde hair, blue eyes, who's in English? She that's like that? 550 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: Who could or at least could do a good accent. 551 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a lot of them out there. I 552 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: keep picturing Ronan Pharaoh, but very tall, but he's you. 553 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Know what's so funny that they have a rendering in 554 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: one of these videos and I was like, Wow, it's 555 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: like Ronan Pharaoh, your psychic. 556 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: See I have the Sean y'all. 557 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: Oh, here's one other thing I'll say about them. From 558 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: the interviews, that I've watched. They're happy people. They're very 559 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: happy about it. 560 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 4: Great. 561 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 3: No, I do not begrudge anyone a happy relationship except 562 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 3: for people that I'm in love with you or in 563 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: love with me, and that doesn't include these three so far. 564 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. Okay, Rupert was alive. He lived. 565 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: I guess he died. 566 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: In that form he's in now, still looking tall, gorgeous, 567 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 3: six sixt' six breadcoat. You know, the British are coming. 568 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: Get it, the British are coming. That's what she says 569 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: every night. 570 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 4: Anyway, My point is that was he married In real life? 571 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: He was married to her. 572 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: Oh do they have any descendants? Oh? 573 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's interesting. 574 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 4: Did they have kids or their descendants? Because you know, 575 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: I'm like. 576 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: What if they find out that Catherine is like their 577 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: great great granddaughter and. 578 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: She's having an emotional relationship with her great great great 579 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: great grandfather in o spells no, thank you well. 580 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: But the only reason it's not super weird and out 581 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: there is because that's part of kind of the plot 582 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: of Back to the Future. 583 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Leah Thompson, right right, right, ooh they used 584 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: to creep me out. 585 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's weird. 586 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: That was the point of it. 587 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: I guess all right, well, I guess we're done with 588 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: that story. But you know, I just it's it's my 589 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: duty to report on the news. 590 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: And I have one more question about that story. May 591 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 4: I ask it? Please? Madam? 592 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: Sure? 593 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 3: Rebecca was she? Is this her first relationship with a woman? 594 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: I'm curious. 595 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, I only know so much. 596 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, but why I'll do my own research. 597 00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 4: I can do that. I have the Internet at Mahau. 598 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 4: I'll call doctor Google. I'll say, make me happy, doctor Google. 599 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: But why would it? Why does that matter? 600 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: I'm curious. 601 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: I'm just curious about bisexuality. And you know, why not 602 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: for me other people in my life. 603 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's my duty to report on LGBTQ paranormal news. 604 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: Stories, and I'm grateful for that. 605 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: We get about one every seven years. So, okay, Sam, 606 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: I have a new segment on this show that we 607 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: recently premiered with my dear friend Lagonja Estrongia, and I 608 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: want the listeners to know it's not something I'm going 609 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: to do all the time, but it's a very fun 610 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: segment that we are calling bast Or bust O. Sam, 611 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: You're familiar with cryptid creatures. 612 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm into it, all of it. 613 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: Now where you're from, did you have any local ones 614 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: in Romney, West Virginia, I mean not super far from 615 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: where the famous. 616 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: Moth Man now the Mothman, even though the bridge disaster 617 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: in Fort Pleasant, West Virginia's the moth Man is mainly 618 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: known for, and it was in the movie version that 619 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: happened in West Virginia the seventies. 620 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 4: At Christmas sixties. 621 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: However, Mothman was reported not just all over the America, 622 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 3: but all over West Virginia. I, however, have not had 623 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: any spottings. I mean our town wasn't is filled with characters, 624 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 3: But no, we did not have a crypt a local 625 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: cryptid that we all, you know, would gossip and chortle about. 626 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: But these exist all over the world. There's so many 627 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: of them. Mothman is definitely one of the big influencers, sure, 628 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of little ones. Actually, one that 629 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: we had last time we did this for Beast or 630 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: Bust was a creature in Canada called and this is real, Sam, 631 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: the Dildo Monster of Dildo Pond. 632 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: Why are you making shit up to actively provoke me 633 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 3: on the air? 634 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: There are news articles from the fifties about the dildo 635 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: Monster of Dildo Pond. So they have all kinds of names. 636 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: The names are part of the fun. I think there's 637 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: all kinds of these creatures out there. You're familiar with 638 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: this concept. So what I'm going to do is, I'm 639 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: going to tell you four and with a little, a 640 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: little tiny write up on each one description. All right, 641 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: one of them is real, three of them are fake, 642 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me which one is 643 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: the real one. 644 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I would never have guessed dildo dildo Head 645 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: comes out of Dildo Lake and puts a dildo in you. 646 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: I would never guess that. So you're already, you know, 647 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: just stumping me. 648 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's play bush or bust bust. Okay, first monster, 649 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: the Dingleberry bush Beater. It's a sasquatch type humanoid. This 650 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: beast got its name after several sightings hiding in the 651 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: overgrown dingleberry trees of eastern Mississippi in two thousand and two. 652 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: Kenneth Ranch claims he was physically attacked by the Dingleberry 653 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: bush Beater, but ultimately the crusty creature skidded away without 654 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: leaving a mark. Wow, that's the Dingleberry bush beater. 655 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: I'll never forget that as long as I live. 656 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: The next one. The cream pie Creeper of Cleveland, said 657 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: to resemble a four foot long prehistoric bird. In nineteen 658 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: fifty three, several reports of encounters with this freaky flyer 659 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: were made in a span of three months. In two 660 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: of those instances, the bird was busted pecking its packer 661 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: into homemade baked goods. Always creamy in nature. 662 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: That sounds like me. I love creamy. I've got a 663 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: creamy twos. What's the name of the goddamn thing again? 664 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: The cream pie Creeper of Cleveland. 665 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: Creami Creeper of Cleveland. The other game could be is 666 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: it a cryptid? Or is it a Roger Korman movie 667 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: from the early sixties? 668 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: Remember that one time and our old game show we 669 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: used to do on stage, we did is it a 670 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: drag queen or a Kentucky Derby horse? 671 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: That's right, And sometimes you look at them and you 672 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: can't tell the difference. That's the fun thing when you 673 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: look at the side by side of the horse and 674 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: the queen, like whitch you got me? 675 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Going back to living for the dead, I don't know 676 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: if it was ever made clear that the episode we 677 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: did at the theater in Louisville, and I have the 678 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: giant hats on. That's because there were all these stores 679 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: that we were staying by that were selling Kentucky Derby hats, 680 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: and so I had to buy a bunch of them. 681 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: So that's why I have those big hats on. 682 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that's the big hat thing. And I 683 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: just stayed at a country house in England. 684 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: Now that's kind a game. 685 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: Oh shit, Well, I was going to tell more stories 686 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: about myself that have no relation to the topic at all. 687 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't like if you've met me, ma'am. 688 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: Okay, the next one the Yukon beaver Eater. This gigantic 689 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: swamp monster is said to resemble a nine foot tall 690 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: sloth with a long tail known for feasting primarily on beavers. 691 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: In the nineteen eighties, a woman named don Charlie said 692 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: her husband had to use protection to keep the hairy 693 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: beaver eater at bay. And then can I call what 694 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: Sam down, Charlie? Yeah? 695 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: Can we just go through this and decide if the 696 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 3: names are real or not of the extra human beings 697 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: before we get to the goddamn cryptids, the cream pike, 698 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: you know, beaver snackers. 699 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: Last one, Yeah, the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckler, described as 700 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: a three legged, half man, half moose. 701 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 4: Now I'm listening. 702 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: This horned horror stalked a hiker named Jim Wentworth in 703 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six for over an hour, hurling nuts in 704 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: Jim's direction. That's the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckle. Okay, So, Sam, 705 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: which one is real? Out of the Dingleberry bush beater, 706 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: the cream Pie creeper of Cleveland, the Yukon beaver eater, 707 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: or the Mackenzie Mountain moose knuckler. One of these has 708 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: been reported for real. 709 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 4: So you promised me that one of these is real. 710 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Well real in the sense that it has been No. 711 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: No, I mean that is an actual described event that 712 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: someone witnessed, or so they say, yes, and three others 713 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 3: are some genius made up Yes, Okay. 714 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 4: Cream Pie, I don't think so. 715 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 3: There are beavers in the Yukon, I imagine Dingleberry Bush. I've 716 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: never heard of a Dingleberry bush other than you know, 717 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 3: Dingleberry's down south on a human being. Don Charlie though, 718 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: that like that name sounds so bizarre, it has to 719 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: be real. 720 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 4: However, I'm going to pick the beaver eater. 721 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: You are correct, the Yukon beaver eater. Are you serious? Yes, 722 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: that is a real creature that has been reported in 723 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: the Yukon Territory of Canada. And it's been something since 724 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, First Nation people have reported this, this creature 725 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: and it's still to this day. I mean in the 726 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: mid eighties, I'm reading from the Pine Barren Institute dot com. 727 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: In the mid eighties, there was an encounter with a 728 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: woman named Don Charlie. She says she told her story 729 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: about how her sister in law and her sister in 730 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: law's husband and her sister in law Charlie, Charlie, mother, Charlie, Charlie, 731 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: the whole Charlie family, Charles, Charlie. 732 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 4: Charlie and Charlie Charlie. I'm familiar Yukon gold you know that, 733 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 4: Charlie's Yeah, they got a chocolate factory. 734 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: Charlie bit me. So they were all fishing at Tatchin 735 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: Lake when a large brown animal that looked like a 736 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: bear in size, but it had the long tail of 737 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: like some kind of other creature, and it had like. 738 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 4: A super beaver, like a giant beaver beast, I. 739 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: Guess, And it had a flat face. It exited the 740 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: woods and it came at them in a fast speed, 741 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and the creature had long claws on its front paws. 742 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: And all three of the witnesses got out of the way, 743 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: and the woman's husband grabbed a gun and shot at it. 744 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: As the two women ran toward the boat, he fired 745 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: one more shot at the creature. It jumped into the 746 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: boat and it lumbered its way back into the woods. Yeah, 747 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,280 Speaker 1: they say that it fasts on beavers. 748 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 3: Sure, I don't, but some people do. Okay, let me 749 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: ask you something, miss ma'am. Where do you stand on cryptids? 750 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't think we've talked about We've talked a lot 751 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: about psychics and ghosts in our times together, but where 752 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 3: are you with cryptids? 753 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: Usually what it comes down to for me is that 754 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these creatures, if they 755 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: the only way I could entertain them existing is if 756 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: they're magical in some nature and can disappear or perhaps 757 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: can teleport or something. And that's why we have not 758 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: found them and captured them in cages the way that 759 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: we would with it. Animal. 760 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: May I propose what I think, sure because of the 761 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: thing and I heard this on a podcast recently and 762 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 3: it might have been yours. But like how there haven't 763 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 3: been that we know of a lot of bones or 764 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 3: fossils found. One of my theories is that they and 765 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: I'm speaking mostly about North American mammalian type creatures like 766 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 3: sasquatch or the beaver snacker is the beaver buster is 767 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 3: they live in underground colonies and caves that have been 768 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 3: yet undiscovered or people that have gone in there have 769 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: gotten eaten and never returned. And I think that's why 770 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 3: we don't find their bones, because they're civilizations to the 771 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: degree that they are civil as as are deep underground. 772 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: But wouldn't we find a big hole somewhere. 773 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 3: But they're good about you know, they've been around forever, 774 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: so they're good about, you know, in terms of survival. 775 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: They're good about surviving in general, and they figured out 776 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 3: how to you know, protect themselves, but you know, in general. 777 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: The more I think about ghosts and all the. 778 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 3: Different podcasts I listened to about psychic phenomenon and supernatural 779 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 3: phenomenon and the paranormal is I'm kind of a strong 780 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: believer in my beliefs lately have have kind of swung 781 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: into the parallel universe or whatever you want to say, 782 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: Like the energy is from Like it's more about dimensions 783 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 3: of time, way more about that than about like a 784 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: person who died seventeen or seventy hundred years ago walking 785 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: through the hallway of. 786 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: A house and starts a relationship with a lesbian couple. 787 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: Well, hooray for everybody, But I think it's more about 788 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,479 Speaker 3: that than it's about I don't know, like spoiler alert 789 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 3: for the other the movie, which is twenty years old, 790 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: to get over it. But like that kind of thing 791 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: where like they're existing kind of you know, they think, 792 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: like you said, they think they're alive and in their place, 793 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: and maybe they are. I guess it's really not like 794 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 3: the others, so I take that back, but like it's 795 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: like time dimensions overlapping, you know. 796 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that's one of the things that 797 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: can happen that's unexplained. That's that's my thoughts and theories 798 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: on it, is that that's one of the things. But 799 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: another thing can be like energy left over. 800 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah for sure. 801 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: Because you know, another thing I like to entertain is 802 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: that cryptids are the ghosts of old creatures that used 803 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: to roam the circle. Oh yeah, and that's why we 804 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: can't cutch them. 805 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. Why wouldn't there be Why wouldn't there 806 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: be cryptid ghosts? 807 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 4: There should be. 808 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: You hear about cat ghosts all the time. People's you do, 809 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: cats lingering around and their little dogs licking them and stuff. 810 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: So why not because. 811 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 4: I don't know as much about that? Oh I do, 812 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 4: I'll bet you too. 813 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: Another thing that happen is people, after they die, they 814 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 1: can end up trapped in a doll that gets sold 815 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: on eBay. 816 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 4: I've heard tell of this. I have heard tell of this. 817 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living, Okay, Sam, we 818 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: got a fun one today. 819 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't wait. 820 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: This is fun because it only has one photo, well, 821 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: it has two photos in one. There is an AI 822 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: sort of rendering of what the ghost looks like that's 823 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: inside of this doll, and then there is the doll 824 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: as well. His name is Warren. He is currently up 825 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: for sale for three hundred and eighty eight dollars and 826 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: eighty eight cents. 827 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 4: Oh very specific. 828 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: Gee, how can you show us Warren? Please? 829 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 4: Oh fancy? Oh wow, he's like the Boy. He's almost 830 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 4: like the boy in that movie The Boy. 831 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh I remember, I feel like I saw that in theaters. 832 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: Or he's also kind of like a Victor Victoria, like 833 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 3: it might be a a. 834 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 4: Woman playing a man playing a woman. 835 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: Very Victor Victoria to me, because it's a feminine face. 836 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean there's blush, Yeah, there's blush. There's a lip, 837 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 3: there's a bee stung lip. Yeah, there is a lash, 838 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 3: but a faint brow. 839 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, sort of a swoopy little hair, uh huh. 840 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: And then a very fitted, uh tuxedo, probably with tails. 841 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's almost like a lady tux The hands are 842 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: in a position of like the ballet. 843 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 4: It's not second it's like, uh not an arabesque. 844 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 3: I can't remember my ballet, it's been a while, but 845 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 3: it's a very like posed, poised, uh, outstretched hand as 846 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 3: if you were going to start flapping them and fly 847 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 3: into the into the you know, atmosphere. 848 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 4: The shoe is very polished. 849 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: But then on the left we have the the rendering 850 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: and of course it's always uh. Folks. You can go 851 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: to ghosted by Ras on Instagram under the little story 852 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: tab called duh you can see what we're talking about. Uh, 853 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: so this is the rendering, and they have a very 854 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: handsome man in a suit who is in a casino. 855 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 4: It's he's so, he's tall, he's Fanny's lean. 856 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 3: He's also wearing a suit similar to the Tuck situation 857 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 3: that the Warren the doll is wearing. This man is 858 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 3: in a casino way more max very masking, kind of 859 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: brat rap sorry not bratt ratpack. Handsome in a very 860 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 3: like I'm almost gonna say, Ricky Martin, sort of Robin Thick, 861 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 3: Ricky Martin, Robin Thick, though Robin much handsomer than Robin Thick. 862 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 4: Josh Jamel almost or JFK Junior John John Kennedy. 863 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pretty hot. So he has a story and 864 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 1: he's got an interesting one. 865 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 866 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: So here's what they've written about Warren. It says, mate 867 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Warren a man who's luck seems almost supernatural. Oh. A 868 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: former lottery winner. Oh, Warren was as familiar with the 869 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 1: casino as he was with his own home, often securing 870 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: wins from hundreds to hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not 871 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: only did luck favor him, but Warren also possessed a 872 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: prophetic ability to foresee outcomes, naturally gaining insights that eluded most. 873 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 1: He often joked about his prophetic skills, amazed at how 874 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 1: he could navigate risks that typically led others to loss. 875 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: Warren's profound knowledge and intuition made him an invaluable guide 876 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: for those facing financial decisions. He had a knack for 877 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: predicting the outcomes of risky ventures with uncanny accuracy, often 878 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: warning others off paths that would lead to failure. Over 879 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: the years, Warren tried to convince me to start trading, 880 00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: citing numerous rags to riches stories he had facilitated to others. However, 881 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: trading or gambling was never really my thing, which led 882 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: Warren to express a desire to move on and assist 883 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: the next owner. If you're hesitant to take risks due 884 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: to potential losses involved, Warren is precisely the spirit you'd 885 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: want in your home. His guidance can steer you towards 886 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: long term stability. Okay, there's a lot, but okay, this 887 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: now here's where it gets interesting. Warren loves engaging in 888 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: discussions about politics, investing, and gambling. He has strong opinions 889 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 1: about current affairs, particularly concerning President Joe Biden, whoa here 890 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: we go, who he does not favor, arguing that he 891 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: is not the right leader for America. 892 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm checking out now. 893 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: It's a shy at all. And he'll go on and 894 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: on about these topics, making him a spirited and enlightening 895 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 1: companion for anyone who enjoys robust debate. Tragically, basically, someone 896 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: killed him after he left the casino one night. It 897 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: says Warren's interests in politics, combined with his strong opinions, 898 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: would make him an engaging companion for someone who enjoys 899 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: in depth discussions on these topics. His insights and experiences 900 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: could enrich debates and provide a unique perspective on current 901 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: affairs and investment strategies. Could you imagine being in a 902 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: debate with some people about politics and being like, well, 903 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: the haunted doll I bought on ebaysas well. 904 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 3: First of all, this description is longer than a Jonathan 905 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 3: Friends in novel. First of all, who has time to 906 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: write all that stuff? How does Warren? How does Warren 907 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 3: and his little tuxedo communicate psychically? 908 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 4: Does he talk out loud? Does he whisper? Whisper? 909 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: I have so many you know that is not a 910 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of times they'll tell you. But I don't get that. 911 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 3: This asks more questions than it answers. 912 00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 4: It you know, it ignites. 913 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's only three hundred and eighty eight dollars and 914 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: eighty eight cents if you want the answers. 915 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit around and talk to a barbie 916 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 3: about whether Joe Biden should be present or not. Firstly, 917 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Ken, I'm not gonna do that. Also, I 918 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: was afraid that this story was going in the direction 919 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 3: of like, this is a person blaming a haunted doll 920 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,839 Speaker 3: for their gambling losses, but they said it's not their thing. 921 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true or not right? What? 922 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 4: Just what? 923 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sometimes I fear that I'm doing bad for the 924 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: paranormal kid highlighting these. 925 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question about haunted dolls in general. 926 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 3: Is it usually like this with a long description and 927 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 3: someone with a vivid imagination and perhaps too much time 928 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 3: on their hands and maybe they need a little electra 929 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 3: tension just sits and makes all this shit up and 930 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 3: then wants to get three hundred and eighty eight dollars 931 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 3: and eighty eight cents on eBay, so they embroider a story. 932 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: They hyperbolize, and I'm not saying this person did that. 933 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: I imagine people buy them because this is every day, there's 934 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: more and more of these. 935 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,359 Speaker 3: Well, the fact that like the AI rendering, as we're told, 936 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: is incredibly handsome. I can see some lonely people might 937 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 3: want to think that this gentleman is very handsomely rendered. 938 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 3: Hotty is sitting down and talking to them all day 939 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 3: and night about the stock market and the lottery and 940 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: the you know, his disappointment in Joe Biden or whatever. 941 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: Sure, the Joe Biden they killed me. 942 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just like it's it might as well 943 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 3: say his name is Donald J. 944 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 4: Trump? 945 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: Sam, What can I play you some ghost voices? 946 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 4: No? 947 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: What if? 948 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 4: I said, absolutely not? Yes, No, I love this part. 949 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev please. Okay, you know 950 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 1: how this works. I go to YouTube and I find 951 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: electronic voice phenomena. Yeah, alleged recordings of ghosts speaking. 952 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,479 Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait. 953 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: So I've got two of them for you today, and 954 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to play them for you. Tell me what 955 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: you hear, then I'll give you some options, one of 956 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: them being the correct answer You already did well with 957 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: the Yukon beaver eater beast or bust. So let's see. 958 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 4: Well, if there's a person that knows about eating beaver's, 959 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 4: it's me. 960 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: Continue, that's not what I think of when I think 961 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: of you. But here we go. 962 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 4: Open up your mind, expand your horizons. 963 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: This first one is from Archbishop James Cloud. That's the 964 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 1: person's name on YouTube. 965 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, is that is. 966 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: He from your parish? I don't know. 967 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 4: He's not from my parish. My parish parish girl. 968 00:50:52,360 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: Uh, the location is unknown. What is this ghost saying? Okay, 969 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: it's a very faint whisper. 970 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,439 Speaker 3: See, this ghost is saying nothing. This ghost is saying, 971 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 3: let's listen again. It's saying words. 972 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 4: All right. 973 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? 974 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 4: I hear something going. 975 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,240 Speaker 1: I know it's so faint. 976 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:21,479 Speaker 4: Let me give it again. 977 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: Which is so creepy. Whispers really creep me out. Okay, 978 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: here we go. 979 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 3: I hear a plosive consonant and it's it almost sounds 980 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 3: like blo. See when you when I listen to your 981 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: podcast or we've done these before in person, I get 982 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: so influenced by It's like the confirmation bias or susceptibility, 983 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 3: where like someone will say it sounds like this, and 984 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, it does sound like that, but it's. 985 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: Hard for me to just pull it out of thin air. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 986 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: which is what the correct answer will be. 987 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 3: I hear the whisper voices, I hear I hear the 988 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 3: syllables going okay, so no, guess. 989 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 4: Well, can I have it again? Or is that against 990 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 4: the rules? 991 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: Sure, here we go. I hear by. 992 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 3: Bye, buy a pie, a cream pie, buy a oh, 993 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: buy a pie. 994 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 4: That's a strange instruction from a spirit. 995 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: Okay, does Archbishop James Cloud think it was a my 996 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: diet's done? 997 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 4: Okay? 998 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: B I died in here. 999 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: Ce die all day? 1000 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 4: Oh shit? 1001 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: Or d Diane wete? 1002 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 4: Well that's what I would be. That's what I would 1003 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 4: be saying. 1004 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,399 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. 1005 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm just going to go die in 1006 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 4: west die all day. Oh my god. 1007 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: It's the correct answer. Now that we know that. Let's listen. 1008 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, now I hear it, yeah. 1009 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: No, I hear it, die day. Okay. Here's another one. 1010 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 1: This one is from Haunted Finders on YouTube. 1011 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 4: Sure that makes sense. 1012 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 1: And they were doing a ghost tour with Calverton ghost Walks, 1013 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: which from what I believe from my research, is in Nottingham, UK. 1014 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,959 Speaker 4: I've been there. 1015 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying? 1016 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,439 Speaker 4: That gave me a chill? 1017 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it's another whisper. 1018 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 4: It's a whisper. 1019 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 3: And it feels like there's water, like they were in 1020 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 3: a tub or a both a boss because it's England, 1021 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 3: you something storm. Maybe that's the water imagery influencing me. 1022 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 3: But that is vividly terrifying. 1023 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: I'll play it one more time and that'll give you 1024 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: some options. 1025 00:53:53,400 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 4: Okay, isn't it? 1026 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? Rose? 1027 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 3: It feels like they're just like taking a long nailed 1028 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 3: finger and putting it inside your soul. When you hear 1029 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 3: these like it reverberates with me in a spiritual way, 1030 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 3: like and I'm not being funny. 1031 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 4: I'm never being funny. I'm not being funny. It's like 1032 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 4: now at this age, but I receive it. I'm being serious. 1033 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 3: I receive it in a way that it feels like 1034 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 3: it's a message, not to me specifically, but I get 1035 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: the impact of all the energy and creepy. Creepy is 1036 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 3: probably a I don't know, is that is that being 1037 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 3: you know, insulting to ghosts. But the the energy of 1038 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 3: the attempt to communicate chills me. 1039 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? 1040 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's from a human. It's 1041 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It does not feel made up to me. 1042 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: Okay, next, you're going to tell me you're in a 1043 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: relationship with a ghost name Rupert. 1044 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 3: It's no, No, I'm not in a relationship with a ghost, 1045 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 3: Lame Rupert. I'm in a relationship with a cryptid name 1046 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 3: Rose Roseanne barbed Wire. She haunts the fences of Wyoming. 1047 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 3: Do you know about her? 1048 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: Oh? I forgot to shout out that beast Bust was 1049 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 1: originally conceived by me and our friend Jackie B. We 1050 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: were out to lunch and we were just naming off 1051 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: all these silly creatures. And Jackie B, of course, also 1052 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: known as the man Lady of Pasadena adjacent? 1053 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 4: Is that trip? 1054 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: Did name? Okay, now it's been so long, let me 1055 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: play it again. Yeah, did they think it was a 1056 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 1: you need a coster, you're gonna leave a ring on 1057 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: my table? Do they think it was b. 1058 00:55:50,120 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 2: Please come close, sir Ce, Please don't go, sir oh 1059 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 2: or d denise the poser you know, and you're like, Oh, 1060 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,240 Speaker 2: Denise the poser. 1061 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 3: Do I ever, Oh, it's I want to say it's 1062 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,720 Speaker 3: B or C, but I think it's Please come closer. 1063 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 4: Can I hear it again? 1064 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: Please? You are correct, it is please come closer. Now 1065 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: that we know that, let's listen. Oh my god, at 1066 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: least it's polite. 1067 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 4: So polite. I love the good manners, very English. I 1068 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 4: love the good manners. 1069 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 3: Please come closer, though I will not come closer because 1070 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 3: that felt like I was going to be drowned in 1071 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: a both tub. 1072 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, go closer. What's it going to do to you? 1073 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 4: Kill you by well? 1074 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: Sam? Yes, I'm so happy that my mommy has joined 1075 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: me today. 1076 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 4: You're welcome. 1077 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for being on for the third time. Can you 1078 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 1: please tell people what you got going on? 1079 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 4: Yes? 1080 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: Yes, in one minute or less. 1081 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 3: No, no, not that part. I am Sam Pancake. You 1082 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 3: can follow me on at the Sam Pancake on Instagram. 1083 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 3: I have a podcast called Sam Pancake Presents the Monday 1084 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 3: Afternoon Movie. It comes out monthly on a Monday, plus 1085 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 3: have a Patreon bonuses to come out monthly. It covers 1086 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 3: chiefly horror movies, all TV movies from the seventies, eighties, 1087 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 3: and nineties with sometimes a teenage wasteland movies thrown in, 1088 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 3: like teen trauma movies from the seventies and eighties. This 1089 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 3: October for a spooky season, I would love for you. 1090 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 4: To come on. No, you are going to come on. 1091 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that and cover the amazing BBC English 1092 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 3: documentary quote unquote ghost Watch. 1093 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: Oh I love ghost Watch. 1094 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to cover that in October, and 1095 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 3: then you know, just follow me Instagram. I'm always doing 1096 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 3: a lot of fun stuff and on stage and screen, 1097 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,959 Speaker 3: and I would love for you to come and visit 1098 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 3: my pancake shop. 1099 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 4: That's not a euphemism. Oh, it is a euphemism. It's 1100 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 4: not sexual. 1101 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: That's all all right, Sam Well, I sure do love you. 1102 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh I have shoot, I have one more question I 1103 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: had to ask. 1104 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, sure, sure, sure. 1105 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: Would you sleep with a crab if you were in 1106 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: a pinch? 1107 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 4: I have a question. I'm going to answer your question 1108 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 4: with a question. 1109 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 3: Would you eat this curls Junior Hamburger if Dame Judy 1110 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 3: Dench had left her Dame Judy Dncher's in it again. 1111 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: These are the inside jokes people, Sam, I love you. 1112 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry we can't use any of this. 1113 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 4: Well, I still get paid, right right. 1114 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 3: Are we gonna pretend we're not seeing each other in 1115 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 3: like seven seventeen minutes? 1116 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to see you tonight. 1117 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 3: I love you, I love your back bye, and I 1118 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 3: love your front all right bye? 1119 00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Sam Padcake. 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My guest booker is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. 1135 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah Kyle Krichten. 1136 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: My theme music is by the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. 1137 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the terrifying 1138 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the chilling Karen Kilgareff, the 1139 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: spooky Georgia hart Stark, and the frightening Danielle Kramer.