WEBVTT - Coaching Changes, Conference Championship Weekend Preview, & HOF Finalist Torry Holt Joins the Insiders 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:18.080 The Jets head coaching search is ramping up, but can 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.439 they close the deal to bring Aaron Glenn Holme. We've 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.360 got the latest from Floram Park on the potential return 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.360 of Grit to Gotham. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes scoring 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:34.120 off once again in this Sunday's AFC Championship game. Where 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:37.240 will this game be won and lost? Our Brian Boldinger 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.600 will be here to break down where the matchup lies. Meanwhile, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.879 the Bears got their man and now it's time for 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.240 Ben Johnson to go to work. Specifically, go to work 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.400 with that man, not the guy running. That's Keenan Allen, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.199 the guy who threw the past. Caleb Williams. What are 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.360 the plans for the new head coach in Chicago? We 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:58.640 will show you what he had to say on day 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.400 one on the job. Welcome Inside with the Insiders, presented 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:08.720 by Progressive Insurance alongside Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. I 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.320 am Tom Pelicero. We've got one hour in this show. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.959 We have a lot of moving parts at this very moment, 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.680 with head coaching interviews that have recently wrapped up, others 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:25.480 that are ongoing potential hires that could be finalized. Stick 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.240 with us for the next next sixty minutes, because you 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.560 truly and to some extent, we don't know exactly what's 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.240 going to happen. Let's start out I in Florham Park, 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.560 where Aaron Glenn was the center of attention along with 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.080 GM candidate Lance Newmark earlier today, the Jets seeing if 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.280 they can bring back their one time defensive back as 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.240 the head coach. Now, as Ian had reported, there was 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.600 optimism on both sides that a deal would come together 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.960 as soon as today. There's also a Saints interview lined 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.120 up whenever the Saints you're allowed to. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:01:59.920 Do interviews again. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.800 More on that in just a little bit Ian, Where 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:03.400 do we stand right now on Eric Glenn? 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.600 Where it did Salent get productive day for the New 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.680 York Jets and Aaron Glenn as both sides tried to 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.520 make it happen so Aaron Glenn could be the next 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.600 head coach of the New York Jets, which of course. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.960 Would represent a homecoming. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.080 Aaron Glenn first on drafting from the Jets, became an 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.880 All pro with the Jets, had his first coaching job 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.799 with the Jets. There's a lot of love from both 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.480 sides and it's not just between Aaron Glenn and the Jets. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.840 From my understanding, plenty of Jets legends have reached out 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.560 to all parties to be like this should happen. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:33.800 He is a member of the family. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.000 Him being the next head coach of the Jets would 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.480 make absolute sense. Again, it did sound like it went 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.440 well today, as by the way it did for Lance Newmark, 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.360 the Washington Commander's assistant general manager, was trying to be 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.840 the new GM of the Jets. There's just no deal yet, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.280 and these things can take some time. They take on 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.240 many shapes and sizes in different forms. They all have 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.560 a trajectory to their own. So it has not happened yet. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.360 But I have not gotten any sense that there's any issues. 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.400 But as you mentioned, Aaron Glenn, of course was an 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.000 assistant coach with the Saints that looms whatever weather allows 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.280 them to have interviews, So if the deal does not 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.720 get done, I would expect him to go there. I'm 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.519 just saying nothing final on the Jets just yet. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:14.680 Mike. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.720 This is very free agency of a visit here where 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.840 you've got you know here, But he's he's got a 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.160 free agency. He's got another visit next so you know, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:27.799 will he leave here without a debt? 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.320 I don't. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.359 We'll say, like, you better make it happen and get 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.200 it done. Otherwise he's gonna go take that other visit. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.560 That you know, and eventually he gets done. That's kind 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.320 of the way it feels right now with Aaron Glenn 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:39.080 and the Jets. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.080 And look, Aaron Glenn has been a guy that has 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.520 impressed a lot of people along the way. Was up 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.680 for that commander's job last year and did a nice 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.880 job in the interview process, impressed them. Was down to 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.960 the last couple in that process there. I don't care 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.320 about the last performance by his defense for the Detroit Lions. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.080 There was a very banged. 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.120 Up depth chart when you look at what he was 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.320 dealing with at that point. 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.440 Don't look at that last game and think like, oh, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:06.280 I really heard it. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.280 There's an entire body of work here and the knowledge 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.280 of Aaron Glenn, a guy that we had talked about 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.000 from the time we started talking about the Jets doing 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.520 their head coaching search. As we thrust that guy into 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.440 the conversation the entire time, he has remained there the 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.120 entire time. There have been some candidates that have been 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.560 up and down. Aaron Glenn has been solid in the 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.880 fact that we have talked about him as one of 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.080 the top candidates for the Jets, and perhaps we'll close 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.960 it out, maybe before we're even off the air. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:30.520 We'll see. 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.240 We mentioned Aaron Glenn also has a interview lined up 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.719 with the Saints. We'll say had an interview lined up 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.800 with the Saints, because this is the current scene in 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.680 New Orleans where air travel, road travel, anything else. When 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.159 you're not used to having I don't know, large amounts 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.280 of snow removal equipment, this can be somewhat problematic. These 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.240 Saints are rescheduling all of this week's in person interviews. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.000 They're supposed to have Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka there 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:00.400 today Dolphins defense coordinator Anthony Weaver tomorrow. Both have been 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.160 pushed back. I'm told Weaver is supposed to be on Friday, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.440 Kafka might be sometime after that. So a little bit 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.640 of a pause in the Saints head coaching search, which, 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.279 depending how things work out with the Jets, could still 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.080 potentially include Aaron Glenn. We know that the Colts closed 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.920 things out. I don't know what the weather is in Indianapolis, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.480 but let's just say it's a lou day. Lou Anararumo 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:26.680 officially introduced by the team as the Indianapolis Colts new 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.479 defensive coordinator, was previously in Cincinnati, one of the respected 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.960 defensive minds in the NFL. A big hire entering a 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.839 big twenty twenty five season for Indy. Ben Johnson also 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.720 had his hiring made official earlier today, the Bears announcing 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.520 Ben Johnson as their new head coach, agreeing to a 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.080 deal on Monday, very swiftly after the Lions were eliminated 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.400 on Saturday night, Ben Johnson entered Hallis Hall and as 0:05:54.560 --> 0:06:10.359 is now tradition, had a little welcome party in the lobby. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.520 Everyone get back, listen. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.039 Thank you so much, my family that were beyond excited. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.360 This is exactly where we wanted to be. This is 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:26.200 exactly where we wanted to be. This this is hey, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.960 this is gonna be a challenge. I won't aware that 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.440 I know what this division is about, and this is 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.520 exactly where we want to be. We're gonna go after 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.480 this thing and it's gonna take all of us in 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.920 this room. It's gonna take this locker room. It's nothing 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.120 more important than that locker rooms and us serving that 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.920 locker room and those players, all right, they need to 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.200 understand that they need to feel that from us every 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:51.240 single day. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.920 And if we do that, the. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.839 Wins are gonna come. The playoffs are gonna come. All right, 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.479 can't wait. You know you guys, and thank you so 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.880 much for the warm up. 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:03.400 Thank you. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.040 Ben Johnson's first team meeting. Right there here are the 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.040 five teams that still have a head coaching vacancy after 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.680 the Patriots hired Mike Grabel and the Bears hired Ben Johnson. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:21.560 The Jaguars, Raiders, Jets, Saints, and Cowboys still looking Dallas 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.160 with an interesting interview also that is taking place right 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:30.720 at this moment, their offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer officially interviewing 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.760 for the head coaching job that was recently vacated when 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.920 the team and Mike McCarthy parted ways. Schottenheimer and his dad, Marty, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.480 had a long history with Mike McCarthy. Now potentially Schottenheimer 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.800 in the mix to replace McCarthy in Dallas Ian This 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:51.240 would be an interesting move for a variety of different 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.360 reasons here. Obviously, Brian Schottenheimer was a hot head coaching 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.000 candidate fifteen years ago when he was the Jets offensive 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.520 coordinator and turned down some opportunities here, he certainly is ready, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.040 you would think at this point in his career. What 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.520 do we make of what this says about where Dallas 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:07.480 is in their search? 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:08.560 Well, where they. 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.320 Are right now is they are interviewing Brian Schottenheimer. I 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.560 don't get the sense that anything is done or imminent 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.240 famous last words, but that is where it stands right now. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.520 But obviously they've only interviewed four candidates now, including him. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.280 That goes to show you how real it is. 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:22.440 Now. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.120 There's some other things they clearly they are waiting on. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.000 Could they be waiting for Kellen Moore to be finished 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.560 with the playoffs? For sure they could. But to me, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.319 at the very least, this feels real. And so if 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:36.439 I were to try to explain why this interview makes 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:39.080 some sense, I would say one what you just said, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.640 which is there have been plenty of times when Brian Schottenheimer, 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.640 called shoddy by his players, has been a hot head 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.320 coaching candidate. He's got a really strong resume. Not today 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.640 as an offensive coordinator, I know people look at the numbers, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.200 but as a leader and someone who can keep up 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.079 the culture that the Cowboys have. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.840 The familiarity would be there as well. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.880 For instance, if you are someone who likes Dak Prescott 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.040 having a lot of success in an offense, you'd have 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.040 a lot of continuity and some similar offensive schemes from before. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.480 And then look, I mean for the Cowboys, I know 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:11.800 we talked about this, Tom, there is definitely a thought 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.319 that for Jerry Jones, you didn't maybe want. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.360 To pay top top dollar for a head coach. This 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.480 probably wouldn't be that. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.520 It's at least something that Cowboys are exploring almost see 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:22.439 what direction it goes. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.680 Brian Schottenheimer interviewed for the Jets job before Rex Ryan 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.800 got the job. I mean, that's how long he's been 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.520 in the mix, or since he was first in the mix, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.360 I should say for head coaching jobs. Since then, well 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.240 traveled a little bit of a dip into the college 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.760 ranks and in the He's the son of a coach 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.240 and the son of a darn goood coach and Marty 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.080 Schottenheimer when he was coaching in the NFL, so he 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:45.920 saw it growing up. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.400 He's experienced it on a number of levels, from a 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.560 number of different situations. This is not that crazy to me. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.880 I mean, I understand that everybody's looking at well, you 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.800 got to your star has to ascend. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.400 You've got to be a Ben Johnson, right. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.880 You got to be hot and you strike while irons 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.680 and that makes you a great hire to be a 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.680 head coach. Brian Schottenheimer could be as qualified to be 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.480 a head coach as anybody else in this cycle and 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.960 just sitting there lying in wait, and the Cowboys are 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:11.400 seeing it. 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.360 Day in and day out to. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.720 Potentially say, well, we can make this guy our head coach. Now, 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.280 where does Jason Witten factory? And we've talked about this 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.880 at length. I talked about it on Sunday that the 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.280 candidates for the job with the Cowboys have gotten an 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.640 understanding that they would like, if all things were equal, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.800 Jason Witten to be on the coaching staff with Brian Schottenheimer. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:30.120 Welcome that. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.000 I'm sure that's part of the discussion that they are 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:32.640 having today. 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.200 When you get the right head coach, you do not 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.640 let him out of the building, which is what the 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.160 Vikings did earlier today finalizing terms on a new deal, 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.800 a multi year deal for Kevin O'Connell to remain their 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.880 head coach despite various rumors about teams trying to trade 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.679 for O'Connell. That was always a completely illogical outcome of this. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.400 He had one year remaining on his deals, won two 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.400 thirds of his regular season games, has not yet enjoyed 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.600 the playoff success. The team also were told working on 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.120 an extension for general manager Quasi Adopho Mensa. They believe 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.280 that this is the brain trust that will continue to 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:13.440 push Minnesota forward. As expected, Kevin O'Connell not going anywhere. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:17.520 Josh McDaniels also staying put and back with a team 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.760 that he's been with now three times. As Ian reported 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:24.040 a short time ago, McDaniels expected to return for a 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:29.120 third stint as the Patriots offensive coordinator. Of course, pictured 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.800 here wearing his Raiders guard from a one and a 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.920 half year stint out there in Las Vegas. After he 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.120 was fired by the Raiders, he moved back to Foxborough. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.240 He was living not far away from the team facility. 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.600 They went through a thorough search. They interviewed a whole 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.640 bunch of candidates, but Mike Vrabel and Robert Kraft settling 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.720 on somebody that they know very well. Josh McDaniels now 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.240 taking over the development of the number three overall pick, 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.280 Drake May in New England, the number two overall pick, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.360 has had He'd say a pretty good year Jayden as 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.080 a rookie head into the NFC Championship game. But can 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.040 he get all the way over the hump and pull 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:11.600 off an upset on Sunday in Philadelphia. We will discuss that, 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.760 but first let's talk about the other game coming up 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.560 this weekend. It's the Chiefs, It's the Bills. It's Von 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.719 Miller running away from people until he's not. We have 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.280 to give duncan on, Mark Andrews. 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:23.640 It's over. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.120 It's Bills, Chiefs. Baldy'll be here, Silia camp Wolf and 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.679 Sarah Walsh. Everybody in the mix to talk about that 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.640 game right here on The Insiders presented by Progressive Insurance. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:42.640 Welcome to Game Flow of the Week presented by Progressive Insurance. 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:44.960 Tom Pilli, Sarah, Sarah Walsh, and Brian Balding here. I 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.439 won't wrap those names, but they are all here on 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.920 the Insiders. Sarah, first time in the meeting between these teams. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.240 It was a win for the Bills that Chiefs defense struggle, 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.800 which is kind of how a lot of these regular 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.679 season matchups have gone if anything might be different this 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.080 time on THEFC title game. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.760 Well, they're going to get some key pieces back. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.760 And one thing that's really cool about this time of year, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.760 when you get down to just four teams left, you 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.800 have these stories that emerge because you start to spend 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.120 more time with these teams, and we're only talking about 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.760 these four right now, right And one of the really 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.280 cool stories I thought from Saturday night being in that 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.800 Chief's locker room was Jalen Watson's return. Now we knew 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.280 that he was going to get some game action on Saturday, 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.080 but I remember standing at his locker after the game 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.680 and he was asked when he knew that he would 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.680 come back, and he said, before he had surgery. He 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.320 broke his fibula back in week seven. He said that 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.880 the surgeon told him it was a pretty slim chance, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.920 and I remember standing there thinking if I heard that, 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.080 I would have been devastated. And he said when he 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.240 heard that, he immediately knew that he would be back 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.199 this season, which speaks to the mindset not only of Watson, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.600 but this Chiefs team and this defense. Charles Amena, who 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.640 also wasn't in the game. In your show, in highlights 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.040 from that Week eleven matchup that they lost to the 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.200 Bills of Mena, who was still coming back from an 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.200 ACL at that time. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.240 He only returned last month. 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.480 Set after the game Saturday night, He's getting close to 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.480 being back to one hundred percent. Those are two key 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.560 defensive pieces that they really could have used in Week eleven. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.880 That is a game that they were out rushed, they 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.440 were out passed, they were out gained by a Bills 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.600 team that's really good. And Andy Reid was asked on Monday, 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.080 when you look at that game, what specifically does this 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.360 defense need to do better against the Bills team, and 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.440 he said, we got to get him off the field 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:22.280 on third down. 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.480 That was a game, Baldy that. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.600 Josh Allen on third down and we know that he's 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.480 good at a lot of things, but he completed sixty 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.120 percent of those third down conversions. 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:30.480 Baldy. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.800 Yeah, I went back and watch that game today, Sarah. 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.760 And you know coach Fags is you know they wear 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.920 a T shirt in Fags We trust in Kansas City 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.640 for good reason. His ability to heat up the quarterback, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.120 to speed up the mechanics to. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:48.840 Get the ball out is seconding out. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.120 Although in that last game Week eleven. I thought that 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:56.160 the Bills handled it pretty well. In fact, Chris Samuel 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:00.920 scored the final touchdown against the blit zero look. But 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.960 you know, if you just started scripting all the different 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.080 pressures that spags will come at you with. I saw 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.840 them draw up stone Cole Jones into the middle of 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.400 the hook zone in past coverage to bring Trent mcduffey 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.800 off the slot, like there's some unconventional tight pressures that 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.280 he has no fear coming. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.560 At you with and trying to heat up Josh, you know, 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:23.200 Josh Allen. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.480 One of the reasons why they have beaten them three 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.160 times now in the postseason because of their ability to 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:33.120 kind of turn the dial up in Keith spots. It's 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.480 not just third down. It could be any down, and 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.840 it could be anywhere on the field. It's bats fields. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.960 I think you get an advantage. They're going to come 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.000 with it. It's up to the Bills to see how 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:42.600 they handle it. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.040 Right now, let's say at E and R Cameron Wolf 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.520 to the conversation. He took a delay of game penalty 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.600 off the top of this segment, penalized five yards, but 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.080 he's still got the ball. You've been around that Bills 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.000 team here in the plus, what's one area that they've 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.480 got to win if they're going to come out of 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:57.680 Kansas City with a victory. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.520 Yeah, Tom, this is the turnover dish. That's the key 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.000 for them. And they've really changed their offense this year. 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:07.600 Josh Allen under his last two offensive coordinators, they were 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.720 throwing the ball around a lot and having a lot 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:11.760 of success. But there also was the interception, there was 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.640 the flumble, and there was a conversation with Joe Brady 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.040 and Josh Allen this year about what the goals were 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.800 and they were willing to sacrifice some of those big plays, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.800 those yardage for Josh to be able to take care 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.040 of the ball and the results are eye opening. You know, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:28.480 this past game, they didn't win because Josh outdueled Lamar 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.200 throwing the ball. They won because he didn't turn the 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.840 ball over and the Ravens did three times. And when 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.680 you look at the first time these two teams played, 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.400 the Bills were able to confuse Patrick Mahomes into a 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.080 couple of interceptions. Josh Allen didn't have any and that 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.520 was a difference maker. But for the Chiefs, they haven't 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.120 turned the ball over at all. Since that matchup, that's 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.560 been six games in the regular season, won in a 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.280 postseason for them, and so that turnover to differential was 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.360 going to be huge. I know, the defensive coordinator of 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.040 the Bills, Bobby Babbage, he works on them and practice 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.520 with this every single day, trying to strip out the ball, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.960 trying to recover the ball the way Von Miller did 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.800 on that fumble of Lamar Jackson during the game. That's 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.840 going to be a key focus for this Bill's defense. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.120 Their ben but don't break, but they are top three 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.480 in the NFL and takeaways. They hope to get Patrick 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.320 Mahomes to give them a couple in their quarterback Josh Allen, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.600 to lean on that old line, lean on that run game, 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:16.400 and take care of the ball. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.040 You know, Okay, just a couple observations. You know, the 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.239 last time they met and that Bill's win one was 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:24.840 to your point. I mean, Josh Allen, he turned the 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:29.640 ball over eight times now eight times in nineteen games. 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.160 It's been a month since he sold an interception. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.960 So they've done a good job and take care of 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.280 the football, but still staying aggressive fourth down conversions, short yardage, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.960 still staying in their dame and then the other thing 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:45.199 that I thought was really interesting is they spied Patrick Mahomes. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.560 A great deal in that first matchup with success. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.440 They got him to the ground on two sacks won 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.640 by Cheryl Benard one by Von Miller in that first matchup. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:55.640 I thought, even down the. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:59.280 Stretch in the final minutes, they had Dorian Williams basically 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.560 spying Patrick Mahomes. 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:01.960 In in that game. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.960 It's interesting Patrick Mahomes did not run one time. We've 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.320 all watched the Homes over the last eight years. He 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:11.400 always runs, he always gained yards. He didn't have one 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.520 run in that last matchup, and so they did a 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:15.719 good job of checking him. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.920 Buying in. The spy worked, I thought a great deal. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:19.720 He never got. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.160 Loose and extended plays where he runs for those first 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.520 downs where we routinely see him do that in big games. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.640 Sarah Camp, thank you very much. Talk to you guys 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.960 throughout the course of the week. 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