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Speaker 1: The Jets head coaching search is ramping up, but can

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Speaker 1: they close the deal to bring Aaron Glenn Holme. We've

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Speaker 1: of Grit to Gotham. Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes scoring

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Speaker 1: off once again in this Sunday's AFC Championship game. Where

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Speaker 1: will this game be won and lost? Our Brian Boldinger

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Speaker 1: will be here to break down where the matchup lies. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Bears got their man and now it's time for

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson to go to work. Specifically, go to work

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Speaker 1: with that man, not the guy running. That's Keenan Allen,

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Speaker 1: the guy who threw the past. Caleb Williams. What are

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Speaker 1: the plans for the new head coach in Chicago? We

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Speaker 1: will show you what he had to say on day

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Speaker 1: one on the job. Welcome Inside with the Insiders, presented

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Speaker 1: by Progressive Insurance alongside Ian Rappaport and Mike Garafalo. I

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Speaker 1: am Tom Pelicero. We've got one hour in this show.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of moving parts at this very moment,

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Speaker 1: with head coaching interviews that have recently wrapped up, others

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Speaker 1: that are ongoing potential hires that could be finalized. Stick

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Speaker 1: truly and to some extent, we don't know exactly what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Let's start out I in Florham Park,

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Speaker 1: where Aaron Glenn was the center of attention along with

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Speaker 1: GM candidate Lance Newmark earlier today, the Jets seeing if

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Now, as Ian had reported, there was

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Speaker 1: More on that in just a little bit Ian, Where

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Speaker 3: Where it did Salent get productive day for the New

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Speaker 4: Would represent a homecoming.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn first on drafting from the Jets, became an

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Speaker 3: From my understanding, plenty of Jets legends have reached out

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Speaker 4: He is a member of the family.

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Speaker 3: Him being the next head coach of the Jets would

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Speaker 3: make absolute sense. Again, it did sound like it went

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Speaker 3: and these things can take some time. They take on

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Speaker 3: But I have not gotten any sense that there's any issues.

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Speaker 3: But as you mentioned, Aaron Glenn, of course was an

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Speaker 6: This is very free agency of a visit here where

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Speaker 6: We'll say, like, you better make it happen and get

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Speaker 6: And look, Aaron Glenn has been a guy that has

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much, my family that were beyond excited.

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Speaker 3: Are right now is they are interviewing Brian Schottenheimer. I

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Speaker 4: The familiarity would be there as well.

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week. Baldy, do not move,

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Speaker 1: Could Jalen Hurts and that knee that really got twisted

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Speaker 2: Fers Middle, Tory Hope got it in tramping Wow close

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Speaker 5: What wait?

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Speaker 2: It is right after the finalists were now his first

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Speaker 5: Can we make it happen?

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about your chances?

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Speaker 9: And you know, I've written every emotional way that you

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have a Ram in New Orleans to put

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Speaker 1: on that goldjacket. We're not going to have the Rams,

441
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: the current version of them. They lose last week in Philadelphia.

442
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: That's a heck of a run though, from the early

443
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: stage of the season where it's trade Cooper Cup, trade

444
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. They kind of got it going obviously down

445
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: the stretch truck the Eagles to the wire watching this iteration.

446
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: That's such a young group.

447
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the twenty twenty four Rams?

448
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 5: Super excited.

449
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 9: You know, they got out to a one and four start,

450
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 9: dealing with injuries and whatnot.

451
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Speaker 5: But you know, I called Sean McVay.

452
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 9: I texted Sean McVay right there at the end and

453
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 9: as they were going into the playoffs, and I just

454
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 9: congratulated him and his staff and his players on how

455
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 9: they handled themselves this year, for him to be able

456
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Speaker 9: to motivate this bunch, for them to be able to.

457
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 5: Buy in, for them to rally around.

458
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 9: Each other and to get themselves where they won the

459
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Speaker 9: NFC West, then to get themselves into the playoffs and

460
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Speaker 9: win a playoff game there in Arizona against the Minnesota

461
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 9: Bikers in the way that that defense, that young defense played,

462
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 9: and then Matthew Stafford, the stud and Poop and the

463
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Speaker 9: Coop and all those guys that are in Kairon Williams

464
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Speaker 9: and the young talent they have on the offense side

465
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Speaker 9: of all, I felt. I felt really good about them

466
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Speaker 9: was the latter part of the season. I feel even

467
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Speaker 9: better about this young group coming back next year. They

468
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 9: are a young, talented football team. Coach McVay is such

469
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Speaker 9: a great motivator, such a great innovator. These guys buy

470
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Speaker 9: in a unselfish football team. I think is what sticks

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Speaker 9: out to me when I think about the Los Angeles Rams.

472
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Speaker 9: They pulled for each other, they played for one another,

473
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Speaker 9: and then to deal with the devastations that they dealt

474
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Speaker 9: with late in the season with the fires and whatnot

475
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Speaker 9: in Los Angeles.

476
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Speaker 5: And for this football team to pull.

477
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Speaker 9: Together and to win in the way that they did

478
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Speaker 9: to the city of Los Angeles and the way that

479
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 9: they did, I'm super excited with this team going forward.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's an interesting situation sort of that's been

481
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 3: playing out that's going to continue to play out with

482
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Speaker 3: Cooper Cup for the Rams, obviously one of the really

483
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 3: great receivers they've had over the course of the last decade.

484
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: Do a big number next year.

485
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: The subject of trade rumors this past year right up

486
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: until the trade deadline, they kept him made obviously the

487
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: run all the way to the playoffs, and when he

488
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: addressed his future over the last couple days, he kind

489
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: of kept it open because he really doesn't know. For

490
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Speaker 3: someone who won has watched Cooper Cup up close and

491
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Speaker 3: to a receiver who obviously is you know, a veteran

492
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Speaker 3: who still produced deep into his career, if you were

493
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, like, what's the best way to handle everything

494
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: going forward?

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Speaker 4: For him and for the Rams.

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Speaker 9: I think the way that he handled everything this year

497
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Speaker 9: is a testament to his character and who he is.

498
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Speaker 9: That's one of the reasons why this football team is

499
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Speaker 9: in the position that they're in because the character guy

500
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Speaker 9: like Cooper Cup, guy that comes in every single day

501
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 9: and works as but all, handles himself in the correct way,

502
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 9: encourages his teammates. Not only does he not only is

503
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 9: he productive, but he shares the information with Pooka and

504
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 9: the other guys in that receiver room, and I sat

505
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 9: in a receiver room with them and watched how he

506
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 9: manages himself. I would love I would love to see

507
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 9: Cooper Cup retired RAM. I think he's deserved it. I

508
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 9: think he's every I think he epitomizes what it is

509
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 9: to be a Los Angeles Ram when you think about

510
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 9: the lineage of receivers, when you think about our club

511
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 9: and our organization, he fits right in that mode. And

512
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 9: I will love again to see him retire as a RAM.

513
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 9: But I know how this business works, and he knows

514
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 9: how it works. I think once he heard his name

515
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 9: a little bit thrown around in the trade deadline, I

516
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 9: think at the beginning of the year that may have

517
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 9: been a little challenging for him to come back from that.

518
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 9: But again, he was the ultimate probe. Didn't say a word,

519
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 9: just just kept his head down and just continue to

520
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 9: work day in and day out and had some big

521
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 9: plays there in the playoff to help this football team.

522
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Speaker 9: So we'll see how it lands. We all know that

523
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 9: it's a business. We'll see how it goes. But again

524
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 9: I'll repeat, I would love to see Cooper Cup remain

525
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Speaker 9: a ram retire.

526
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Speaker 1: Ramp on the other side of that matchup Torri. Another

527
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: storyline was AJ Brown and some of his activities on

528
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: the sideline. I don't know if you were even allowed

529
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: to have books in your day that might have been

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00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: available here. I'm curious number one, what your thoughts were

531
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Speaker 1: on AJ finding his inner excellence between drives And number two,

532
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: did you have any peculiar quirks in your.

533
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 9: Playing dage when you work on the field. No, well,

534
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 9: I've never seen that before. That was the first and

535
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 9: as always the first for everything right and a A. J.

536
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 9: Brown certainly has proven that once again. But I guess

537
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 9: he's got to do what he needs to do to

538
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 9: keep himself peaceful and keep himself whole so he can

539
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 9: think and concentrate and go out and do his job.

540
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 9: For me having any quirks anything like that when I

541
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 9: was playing, if I ever found myself in a tough

542
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 9: situation where for any last shout or say something, I

543
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 9: would take some deep breaths and I even have lasted out.

544
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 9: But at the end of the day, you know, you

545
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 9: got to you got to play football. And this is

546
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 9: his way of controlling his emotions and making sure that

547
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 9: he's good to go and able to go out and

548
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 9: play at a high level. But certainly the first that

549
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 9: I've ever seen in my lifetime.

550
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: Whatever you were doing, Tory and your playing days, it worked.

551
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: You were on the precipice once again for the Pro

552
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. We're a little biased because you're

553
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: one of our favorites here, man, but best of luck.

554
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Hope to see you up there on the stage the

555
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: NFL Honors wearing that gold jacket.

556
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 11: Man.

557
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 5: We appreciate it absolutely, guys, thank you very much. Thanks

558
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: for having me.

559
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: Tory Holt, one of the members of the most high

560
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: flying offense we can remember.

561
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: How high flying will that guy be? That is Jalen Hurts.

562
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: We saw him awkwardly go down with kind of a

563
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 3: little bit knee injury last week.

564
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 4: How healthy will he be and how much.

565
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: Of a factor will that be for the Philadelphia Eagles.

566
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: We got Jeff Jadea, we got Brian Baldinger. They're going

567
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: to tell you all about it.

568
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: Coming up next on The Insiders.

569
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Speaker 2: Eagles, three o'clock on a Sunday. For the second week

570
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 2: in a row.

571
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Speaker 6: The Commanders with the extra day of rest is these

572
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 6: prepare for the NFC Championship game at three o'clock then

573
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 6: at six thirty pm on CBS.

574
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: And Paramount plus the Bills and the Chiefs.

575
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: Again.

576
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 6: I hope we have another legendary playoff game between those two,

577
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 6: and I hope we have another legendary appearance from our

578
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Chidia right here joining us alongside Baldy.

579
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: Right here.

580
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 6: Jeff's got a article up on NFL dot com, a

581
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 6: backslash first read about the biggest flaw. Yeah, we're gonna

582
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: be a little negative here in this segment here, but

583
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: like constructive criticism, I guess we can call it.

584
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: Let's start with the Eagles.

585
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: The biggest negative that you see for the Eagles right now, it.

586
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 8: Is the health of quarterback Jayen Hurts Mike, and we

587
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 8: just don't know how severe that leg injury he had.

588
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 5: You saw the play where he got sacked and he

589
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 5: grabbed for that left knee.

590
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 8: And I'll tell you what, this offense, you already were

591
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 8: concerned about where they can win with the way they

592
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 8: were throwing the football. He's only throwing for two hundred

593
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 8: fifty yards in the playoffs. You start having him in mobile,

594
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 8: that's a bigger question yaes Hey Kwon Barkley can run

595
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 8: like crazy in the Washington commander of defense is suspect

596
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 8: against the run.

597
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: But Baldy, this is a big issue for the Eagles.

598
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 11: It is it is, I agree, But I also would

599
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 11: say this, Jeff, like, we know how tough Jalen is,

600
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 11: we know he's going to be out there, but I

601
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 11: just I guess my question would be even if he's

602
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 11: out there, discounting the Week sixteen game against.

603
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 5: Washington when he had the concussion, I mean.

604
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 11: He's twelve to zero as a starter, twelve straight wins

605
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 11: in a row, and he's averaging twenty one pass attempts

606
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 11: a game. I would take it a step further because

607
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 11: I know he's going to play, He's going to cut

608
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 11: out whatever it is, Jeff, But can you win championship

609
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 11: games and get to a Super Bowl a thirteenth win

610
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 11: in a row by averaging twenty one passes a game

611
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 11: and throwing it for as few yards.

612
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 5: As they have done during this stretch.

613
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 11: Albeit it, he's taking good care of the football and

614
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 11: maybe that's more important.

615
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 6: Two things I feel pretty to really good about Baldy

616
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 6: this week. Like you said, Jalen Hurts is going to play.

617
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: I feel really good about that one, and I feel

618
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 6: pretty good about the fact he's not going to be

619
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. He is definitely banged up from taking

620
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 6: that shot that we just saw on Sunday, so we'll

621
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 6: see how much that affects him on Sunday. The Commanders

622
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 6: their opponent, Jeffrey. The biggest flaw you see in them

623
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 6: right now.

624
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 8: I'm going with lack of experience.

625
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: And I love this team.

626
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 8: They've been great this year and Jayden Dwns has been phenomenal,

627
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 8: the next big superstar in this league. But only sixteen

628
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 8: starters on this team have played in the championship game. Yes,

629
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 8: they've got Marshawn Lattimore and Bobby Wagner and Zach Hurtz

630
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 8: guys like that, and Dan Quinn took Atlanta to a

631
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 8: super Bowl, but this is a different stage. People talk

632
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 8: about how much pressure comes in the championship round, and it.

633
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: Gets a lot tougher.

634
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 8: It's different when you're playing wildcard games in the divisional

635
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 8: games with house money. Baldy once if way from the

636
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 8: super Bowl. That's a big, big deal for this team.

637
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 11: Jeff We all watched them go to Detroit against the

638
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 11: best team in the league, the highest scoring team in

639
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 11: the league, and they put up forty five points. The

640
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 11: defense scored one of the touchdowns. It didn't look like

641
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 11: lack of experience. I had a easy to do with

642
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 11: Detroit had all the experience in those big games, two

643
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 11: championship games in a row, and it didn't look like

644
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 11: they were phased at all. They got to a track

645
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 11: meet with Detroit and they beat him at their own game.

646
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 11: And so I don't think that this is going to

647
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 11: be a game where it's going to be decided by experience.

648
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 11: They know the Eagles well, they played them. You know,

649
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 11: this will be their third meeting in the last ten weeks.

650
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 11: This is the rubber match. They played him well the

651
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 11: first time they played it. I think this is about

652
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 11: execution right here, and if the quarterback you can continue

653
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 11: to play at the level he's playing without turning the

654
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 11: ball over like he has done.

655
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Speaker 6: Here's a quote from today quote he's a young quarterback

656
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: by birth certificate, not by tape. That is Eagles defensive

657
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 6: coordinator Vic Fangio talking about Jaden Daniels. I agree with him.

658
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 6: I know you guys agree. You see his ability to

659
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: not panic at all. They come with something, He's got

660
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Speaker 6: a counter for that. You see something here, he's over here.

661
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Speaker 6: He's staying nice and level. He is impressive. The Kansaity

662
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Speaker 6: Chiefs remain impressive as they go for their three pete

663
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Speaker 6: or as Peter Scheger called it when he predicted it

664
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Speaker 6: to start the season on Good Morning Football, the Chiefs

665
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Speaker 6: pete Peter might be right, let's see, but they got

666
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Speaker 6: to overcome this flaw.

667
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: Jeffrey and the defense not as dominant as you might think.

668
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 5: The stats say they are.

669
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Speaker 8: They're fourth in the league in points allowed, but a

670
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 8: lot of big players given up in the second half

671
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 8: of the season. The pass rush came on this past week,

672
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 8: got eight sacks, but that was against a really bad

673
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Speaker 8: offensive line. And my concern here is the run defense

674
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 8: of one hundred and forty nine yards the Houston Texans

675
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 8: at one point in that game and the third quarter

676
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 8: of Texans went on a ten minute drive and they

677
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 8: converted ten of seventeen third downs. Baldy against Buffalo. That's

678
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 8: a recipe for disaster.

679
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 11: It can be, although I kind of think a little

680
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 11: differently here, jeff I mean, I saw Houston score twelve

681
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 11: points down the stretch. I saw the Steelers score ten,

682
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 11: I saw Cleveland score seven. I mean their defense was

683
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 11: up to par and they've got SPACs. You know in Fags,

684
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 11: his game plan, his ability to affect quarterbacks in big games.

685
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 11: The bigger they are, I think, the better he gets

686
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 11: and they trust him. So I think there was healthy

687
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 11: on the defensive front, as they've been all year. A

688
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 11: man who looks really good right now, to go with

689
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 11: Chris Jones rested looking good last week.

690
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: You know, Carl loftis with the Hattererck guy.

691
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Speaker 11: I feel like this defense is up to par and

692
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 11: I don't think it's going to be a weakness year.

693
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 5: I'll be it.

694
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 11: They did get him a lot of rush yards at

695
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 11: Joe Mixon last week, but they didn't get him let

696
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 11: him into the end zone, and you know they were

697
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 11: still blocking extra points at the end of the game.

698
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Speaker 2: What I watched that leads one team, the Buffalo Bills.

699
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: What's the biggest week this there Jeffrey.

700
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott's big game history.

701
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Speaker 8: You know, they've had a lot of heartbreaks in the

702
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 8: last few years in the playoffs, and a lot He's

703
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 8: taken a lot of criticism for those losses. And I

704
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 8: think he's a different coach this year. You're hearing people

705
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 8: talking about how much looser he is, how he's showing

706
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 8: his personality, how he's telling dad jokes and he's doing

707
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 8: snow angles after games, like he's a.

708
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: Different kind of coach.

709
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 8: Maybe in some ways, like Tom Coughlin changed with the

710
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 8: New York Giants back he went from being a really

711
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 8: hard tough guy to be a little more open. And

712
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Speaker 8: I have to need that that kind of Sean McDermott

713
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 8: in this game because he's become conservative then casts.

714
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 5: In these big games.

715
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Speaker 8: He needs to be that looser, aggressive coach Baldy for

716
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 8: them to win this game in Kansas City.

717
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Speaker 5: He is seven and five in the postseason. Help be it?

718
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 11: Okay, the big games, it's really the big games you're

719
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 11: talking about Kansas City.

720
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 5: They're own three.

721
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 11: Against Kansas City. And I think you know they didn't

722
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 11: change the overtime rule. You know, three years ago and

723
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 11: there's Josh Allen sitting on a bench with his head

724
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 11: like his in his hands after past mahomes went down

725
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 11: and scoring the touchdown in overtime. They did change the rule.

726
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 11: I still kind of wish the rule had been changed

727
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 11: before that given Josh Allen a change. Maybe they're still

728
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 11: playing that game for all we know, but I do

729
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 11: think that's been the Achilles Seal. It's been Kansas City,

730
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 11: and if they want to get to where they want

731
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 11: to get to, they have to eventually defeat the dragon.

732
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Speaker 5: And that's the Chiefs this weekend, Sunday night.

733
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: Yep, coming up this, that's my that's me, by the way,

734
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Let's make sure.

735
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: It's all sir.

736
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 6: We're good, We're good, We're good. Usually Judy Batista, she

737
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: lives in Manhattan. I'm across the river, not as crazy here,

738
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: but sometimes.

739
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: We get a little bit of that. That's the horn

740
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: that means it's time to go.

741
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Chadia NFL dot com Backslash first Read to check

742
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 6: out the biggest I'll tell you big this weekness in

743
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 6: this segment right now is what's happening outside this window?

744
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: What is happening out there? We'll find out, let you know,

745
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: when we come back.

746
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 6: We'll also talk about Ben Johnson Bald He's going to

747
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: be with us to talk about the impact that he

748
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 6: will have with the Bears and Caleb Williams.

749
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: That's coming up next on The Insiders.

750
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: The moment so many Bears fans were waiting for. I'm

751
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 3: really hoping for, praying for all of the things for

752
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: that man right there, Ben Johnson to be officially hired

753
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: as their new head coach, their top target signed, sealed,

754
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 3: and delivered, and as you can imagine, Bears fans, well,

755
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: they had some thoughts.

756
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 13: Gotta say, I'm extremely shy that the Bears did things

757
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 13: the right way. And I hate to say that as

758
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 13: a Bears fan for fifty three years. Okay, you know,

759
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 13: but you say it.

760
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 5: But it's nice.

761
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 13: It's nice to see that, guys, you know, and I

762
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 13: would love to see the Allen hire because as a

763
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 13: first time head coach, like you're all talking about, you know,

764
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 13: it's you know, you got to manage the whole team,

765
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 13: you know, which is hard to do. And then my

766
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 13: last point, guys is I was in my truck today

767
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 13: driving from store.

768
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 14: Home when the news broke, and I was on a

769
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 14: local media affiliate and they just said, oh boy, this

770
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 14: is not good news. And all sudden I heard what

771
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 14: they said and the last response from the local guy

772
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 14: was the step brother just grew up.

773
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Speaker 15: This is such a quarterback driven league, you know. The

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 15: last seven Super Bowls. Who's won Mahomes, Stafford Brady and

775
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 15: Peyton Manning. And I think worst case scenario, I mean,

776
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 15: I think Ben Johnson's a slammed on hire. But worst

777
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 15: case scenario, Ben Johnson develops Cale Williams into an elite quarterback.

778
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 15: And that's what you need to win in this league

779
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 15: is an elite quarterback.

780
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: The people have spoken, Actually thought that people would have

781
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: much funnier accents, but it is what is still good

782
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: reaction from Bears fans. And yeah, I think it's safe

783
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: to say the offense could use a little boost, maybe

784
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: from one of the best play calls we've seen over

785
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: the last several years, one of the best designers of offenses,

786
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson. Now the Chicago Bears coach, Brian Baldinger, get.

787
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: In here, come hang out with me. Tell me what

788
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: this is going.

789
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: To be like, not just for the Bears organization in general,

790
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: but zero win on Caleb Williams.

791
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: What is this going to be like for him?

792
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 11: Well, I mean all he has seen in his first year,

793
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 11: he had his instability, He saw his offensive coordinator fire,

794
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 11: he saw his quarterback coach elevated to offensive quarter he

795
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 11: saw his head coach fire. Always seen is just change

796
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 11: in turmoil. I mean, I hope Ben Johnson comes in

797
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 11: there and he has stability to begin with, you know,

798
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 11: and that would be a good starting point.

799
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 5: And now, look he's leaving Detroit, which has elite offensive talent.

800
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 11: The Bears don't have that, yes, but he's going to

801
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 11: be part of the plan to rebuild the offensive line

802
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 11: like they did in Detroit, where they were patient with

803
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 11: it and they built it the right way with you know,

804
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 11: they they forego some of the shining weapons, go get

805
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 11: Piney Seal and it was the right move.

806
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: You know.

807
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 11: They clean out the running back room and got Jamir

808
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 11: Gibbs and David Montgomery.

809
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 5: Like he can oversee some of this.

810
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 11: But I think Caleb needs a great play caller and

811
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 11: designer once they get those things in place, where he

812
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 11: can trust what the guy is sending it the way

813
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 11: Jared Goff did over these last four years in Detroit,

814
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 11: and Jared Goff elevated his game continuously. With Ben Johnson,

815
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 11: but with that stability, I think that's where it begins.

816
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 11: You've got that voice that you trust in your head

817
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 11: like he had at Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma, like.

818
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: He had with Lincoln and Cliff Kingsbury at USC.

819
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 11: He's got to have that voice, has had of trust,

820
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 11: of creativity, and we've got the right play here in

821
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 11: this situation. We've got the right deceptive right here as

822
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 11: we cross the fifty yard line to go sting them.

823
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: You know, those kind of things.

824
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 11: The quarterback and the head coach, now the offensive coordinator

825
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 11: as well, they've got to have that trust together. We

826
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 11: see it throughout the division. We see it with the

827
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 11: Floor and Jordan Love. We've seen it with O'Connor and

828
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 11: Sam Darnold. We saw it with you know, with Ben

829
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 11: Johnson and Jared Goff. I think you've got to have

830
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 11: that connection between that play caller in that quarterback.

831
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: That's a great call and it's going to be fascinating

832
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: to see how that plays out. And we have seen

833
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: the difference it's made in Jared Goff. Now all eyes

834
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: on Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson in the fold for.

835
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears.

836
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 3: Baldy, thank you very much for hanging out with us

837
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: as always.

838
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Championship Wednesday just one day away. That's where you've got

839
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: the star players and the coaches from all four teams

840
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: in the conference championship games. At the podium speaking with

841
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: the media. We'll have four hours of coverage right here

842
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: on NFL Network starting tomorrow at noon Eastern time, and

843
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: of course you can catch the best of Championship Wednesday

844
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: right here on The Insiders at seven pm Eastern time.

845
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Tom Hillisero, Ian Rappaport, Mike Shira Follo back with you

846
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: got something? No, Mike, No, I'm bad. I'm gonna look

847
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: like you want to talk. Brother, you start, let's finish.

848
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: You're ready, strong, go ahead, now, you got it.

849
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: You're good.

850
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 1: So the racially reinaugurated President of the United States Donald

851
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: Trump as a diet coke button, I'm told under his desk, Ian,

852
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: if you had a button that could do anything under

853
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: your desk, what would it be?

854
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: Do you have to say? Like you think I would

855
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: say it? You think I would say.

856
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: A real transition there you think I would say.

857
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: You think I would say coffee. But that's not true.

858
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: Here's what I would like.

859
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: I would like a mute button because we have conversations

860
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: here on the phone all the time, and my microphone's

861
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: right here.

862
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: I don't know who's listening.

863
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: So I want all private conversations muted, not just on

864
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: my desk in my whole life.

865
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: I want to be able to have all conversations. I

866
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 4: want up anyone else hearing all the time.

867
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 6: And watch, here's all you have to do. Your mic

868
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 6: is behind you. You just reach back and you just pull

869
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 6: the mic and then we no.

870
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 4: But then I forget to put it back in. What

871
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 4: was that mic? That is pretty easy?

872
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 5: Got something editing? All right?

873
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: What did you say?

874
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 12: We're back tomorrow?

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00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Send me a maistern say you