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Speaker 1: Morning Podcast. Former Steeler Ike Taylor thoughts on the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game Cowboys Steelers. Time for fake questions, real answers.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions I want to answer.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to wait for you to ask the question.

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Speaker 1: So here goes Dear Colin. Forbes just said the average

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Speaker 1: value of an NFL franchise increased by an average of

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Speaker 1: fourteen percent this year. What do you say to all

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Speaker 1: those people who keep telling you the NFL was dying.

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Speaker 1: Nobody with the brain thinks the NFL is dying. Two

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Speaker 1: things make the NFL unstoppable. Scarcity meaning fewer games and

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Speaker 1: we bet it. Soccer in Europe fewer games, and they

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Speaker 1: bet it cricket is actually called Europe's national pastime. But

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Speaker 1: at last three to five days, stop worrying about the

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Speaker 1: NFL's ratings. They've gotten eleven year contract that starts in

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Speaker 1: two years. Any sport in any country that has fewer

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Speaker 1: games that people bet will be the most popular sport.

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Speaker 1: Dear Colin tom Brady's the most important player in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Whose second I'd argue Dak Prescott, quarterback Cowboys. According to Forbes,

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Speaker 1: he was the fourth highest paid athlete in the world

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Speaker 1: last year. Now, most of that came from on the

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Speaker 1: field earnings, but he also made ten million in endorsements

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Speaker 1: and didn't even play half the season. Listen to The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are the most valuable franchise in sports at six

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Speaker 1: point five billion. That's one point five billion more than

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Speaker 1: the next valuable team New England. But if you put

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the market, they'd sell for fifteen billion dollars. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just think about this. The LA Clippers, several years ago,

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Speaker 1: the second most popular basketball team in Los Angeles, sold

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Speaker 1: for two billion dollars. You're telling me the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: only three times more valuable than the Los Angeles Clippers,

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Speaker 1: who have to share an arena, share an arena with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Dacks the face of this franchise. He makes

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Speaker 1: them a winner. His value and the Cowboys value sky rockets.

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Speaker 1: There's an argument to be made. He's even more valuable

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Speaker 1: than Tom Brady. Dear Colin, I know you're a betting man.

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Speaker 1: You like betting over unders win totals. What's the team

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Speaker 1: you won't touch this year? The San Francisco forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers because of their quarterback situation, and the Chargers, who

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Speaker 1: are currently at nine and a half wins. Listen, the

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Speaker 1: West Coast Falcons. I got to see it to believe it.

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Speaker 1: I love their quarterback, I know and left their GM.

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Speaker 1: I even know their owner, who's polarizing. They upgraded their

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Speaker 1: offensive line, but they have a rookie head coach who

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Speaker 1: has the least experienced coaching football, not head coaching coaching football,

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Speaker 1: of any coordinator or head coach in the league. If

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Speaker 1: you told me they finished twelve and five, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be shocked. But right now, ten and seven fields right,

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Speaker 1: I still wouldn't touch it. Dear Colin, how much of

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Speaker 1: the Olympics are you watching? Virtually none. I've got a rule.

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Speaker 1: Don't make it difficult for me to consume your product.

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Speaker 1: New York Times, Washington Post, your paywalls and subscriptions, you

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Speaker 1: get me to a third click, I'm out. Make it

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Speaker 1: easy for me to be a consumer. You know, I

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Speaker 1: had this discussion not long ago with a friend. I

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Speaker 1: stopped going to Starbucks, and I'm from Seattle and I

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Speaker 1: love coffee. They were so overbuilt it. They were building

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I go to a place called Alfred's.

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Speaker 1: It's simply an easy place to park. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why NBC forces me to join their streaming service to

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Speaker 1: watch Team USA basketball. Listen. We can't keep asking consumers,

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Speaker 1: including me, to join Amazon Prime. Then it's Netflix, then

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Speaker 1: it's This, Then it's The Washington Post, then it's The

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Speaker 1: New York Times. I don't want forty two passwords. I'm

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Speaker 1: not interested. Put the damn Olympic sports on NBCTV. The

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Speaker 1: not hunting. This is not hide and seek television style.

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Speaker 1: NBC made it too difficult, and having to sign up

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Speaker 1: for Peacock may drive their business, but it drove me crazy.

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Speaker 1: All right. I want to bring in Ike Taylor, who

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Speaker 1: is as honest as any Steeler ever. Twelve years two

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Speaker 1: super Bowl rings. Absolutely no bullshit. For the next thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: remember Mark Madden writing an article terrible draft pick, terrible

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Speaker 1: And like you said, twelve years later, three different cords tracks,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a year I came in with less confidence.

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Speaker 1: not really about to stress you doing it, but we're

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Speaker 1: about to make it so hard for you too. If

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Speaker 1: you don't do it, either, you're a free agent sins

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Speaker 1: filth round draft pick. You ain't got the money to

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Speaker 1: chip up sixteen grand every time you you miss a

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Speaker 1: test or it comes back positive. Your ass out Now

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Speaker 1: for a guy like me, I probably would have been

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Speaker 1: straight at the time. So and that's we call it

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Speaker 1: strong on. You know they I feel like they're getting

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Speaker 1: strong on. We're gonna say publicly voluntary, but it's damn

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Speaker 1: that mandatory. You need to do it, right. Did you

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Speaker 1: feel sometimes that that way with practice or workout? Same

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Speaker 1: thing we college isn't. When I played then, we talked

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Speaker 1: about dude, and we still do. I'm in two group texts.

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Speaker 1: I'm in an old five group text was about thirty

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Speaker 1: something super Bowl champions, and I'm in an O eight

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Speaker 1: group text where it's another thirty five. My phone keep

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Speaker 1: going dead because I'm looking at seventy guys and we're

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Speaker 1: just talking and reminiscent over the Super Bowls in that

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Speaker 1: season and what happened. Um, we never, we never did

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Speaker 1: Troy or talk about this in this speech like it hurt.

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Speaker 1: It hurt it. It hurted me to give up a

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Speaker 1: play and go back to that that huddle and look

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Speaker 1: them guys in the eye and be like, damn, I

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Speaker 1: let y'all down. This generation, I don't know if they

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Speaker 1: even care about that. I don't know if they even

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Speaker 1: care about their bredred. They're there, they're messing up on

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Speaker 1: the play or giving up a big play or not

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Speaker 1: getting an interception for them. You can be about your money.

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Speaker 1: We understand. I'm cool with the money. I'm cool and

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Speaker 1: I want everybody to get the money. Get the money.

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Speaker 1: If you can win super Bowls, you're on a lifetime

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Speaker 1: scholarship when it comes down to that city. Because I'm

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Speaker 1: still on a lifetime scholarship in Pittsburgh. But I feel

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Speaker 1: like now the teams that are winning Super Bowls still

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Speaker 1: got the old school ways. They still care about each other.

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Speaker 1: You just said, you just all with Tom Brady. They

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Speaker 1: see a hall of famer, a walking hall of famer,

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Speaker 1: care this much about football, got all the money, got

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Speaker 1: all the money he needs, got a got a model

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Speaker 1: as a wife. And he's still in year twenty at

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Speaker 1: forty four, forty three years old, still this passionate about football.

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Speaker 1: That's how we was back in the day. Colleague, did

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Speaker 1: you know the first time you face Brady he was great?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if you and Larry Foot is

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Speaker 1: the livebacker coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. L Larry

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Speaker 1: Foot was he played ball at Michigan with Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: He was the first to tell us. He said, look,

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Speaker 1: Tom wasn't starting at Michigan, but Tim is one of us.

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Speaker 1: And what he meant by one of us was the guys.

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Speaker 1: Tom is one of the guys. And Tom always came

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Speaker 1: in the closed games. If he ever start in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: he won't look back. And I be damn it. Larry

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Speaker 1: Foot wasn't lying at all. Yeah, you had some huge

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Speaker 1: games with Brady. I mean you were in big, close,

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Speaker 1: competitive brand games. What was the secret to giving Was

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Speaker 1: there ever a secret with Tom Man? Tom will give

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Speaker 1: a fuck Tom College. Tom. Tom chip is almost six

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Speaker 1: round mother freaking draft pick. Y'all didn't like my size,

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Speaker 1: you didn't like my combine. I'm about to smoke the

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Speaker 1: NFL for as long as I can. That chip on

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Speaker 1: the shoulder, that chip on the shoulder College is still

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Speaker 1: there to this day because he wasn't entitled, right, He

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Speaker 1: wasn't coming from an air he he likes and to

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Speaker 1: this day and coaches to tell you in Temple, Man

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Speaker 1: put me around the fifty third gaul the roster because

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Speaker 1: him and I can relate. You get your first and

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Speaker 1: second round quarterbacks, maybe third, and then get to start

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Speaker 1: and have some kind of success. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go to the equipment manager and be like, Man,

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Speaker 1: put me in with the last guy on the roster

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Speaker 1: because I can relate to him. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's will make Tom different. You know, Tom and I

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Speaker 1: talked about being being competitive, but you got to hear

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Speaker 1: Tom Braid on the field, Bay Brad. He's very disrespectful

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Speaker 1: man in a in a manly way, in a competitive way,

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Speaker 1: you know, not disrespectful as in being disrespectful to your

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Speaker 1: family or anything else. I'm talking about that football competitiveness.

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Speaker 1: Very disrespectful in a good way. So he'll he'll talk

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Speaker 1: game end game. You know, they talk about Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: So he Philip Rivers on steroids when he come down

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Speaker 1: to the talking. Now, Philip, Philip, Philip, don't curse. He

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Speaker 1: don't say nothing too bad, you know not. He'll tell

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Speaker 1: you where you need to be before you gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: That's what Philip Rivers gonna tell you. Like, oh, you,

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to been blistening in this gap. You're like, God,

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Speaker 1: damn it, Like how to hell? He know? I was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be b listening to this gap. I didn't

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Speaker 1: blessing the wrong gap, Tom, Tom Tim A little bit time,

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Speaker 1: a little bit different time, a little bit different collar.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Now you got a cigar business, you gotta

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Speaker 1: give it a little props. You're gonna send me a

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Speaker 1: couple of cigars. I'm a cigar smoker occasionally, what are

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Speaker 1: your cigars cold? So I'm under the line. It's called

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Speaker 1: Howard ge cigars. My cigar is one of a kind

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Speaker 1: and I spell it kind of different. So if anybody

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Speaker 1: want to go to my Twitter, which is I underscore

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Speaker 1: swagging you, or you can go to my Instagram, which

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Speaker 1: is one of a kind slash I Taylor. I got

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Speaker 1: my cigar line. Now I've made my cigar because I'm

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Speaker 1: an avid cigar smoker and I just wanted to put

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Speaker 1: it on my bucket list. But I didn't know it's

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Speaker 1: gonna take off like this. I didn't know the cigar

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Speaker 1: industry was this big. I didn't know people save money,

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Speaker 1: just like how they say for trips to smoke cigars.

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Speaker 1: This something I didn't know. But my process was different,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, from a lot of other athletes who

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Speaker 1: just put their name on a cigar and you don't

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Speaker 1: hear about them anymore. So, you know, going down to

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Speaker 1: nicarag Woods, going to the plant, seeing my cigar go

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Speaker 1: through four hundred and twenty hands before it gets to

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Speaker 1: the United States, sitting down smoking for the different tobaccos,

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Speaker 1: narrowing it down to ten to get to two that

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Speaker 1: I liked. So when you smoking my cigar, you're smoking

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Speaker 1: my palette. I look at cigars like drinking wine because

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Speaker 1: I love drinking red wine. And the longer you get

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Speaker 1: aged red wine, the better the red wine is. So

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what I want to do my

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Speaker 1: tobacco like that. So that's exactly what I did. So

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Speaker 1: that's the process I'm in now. But yeah, I saw

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Speaker 1: all you. I saw on your Instagram. You were sitting

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Speaker 1: out and talking smack and you were smoking your cigar.

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Speaker 1: I said, man, next time them I talked to Color,

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Speaker 1: I'm make sure I'll put a few sticks in his hand. Okay,

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Speaker 1: even better better better ways. Baby, Hey man, I love

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Speaker 1: much anytime any man listen. Bro. You one of my favors. Bro,

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Speaker 1: you and you are one of my faves. So anytime

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Speaker 1: you just wanted kicking to talk, man, I'm here for you. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: like I appreciate you. Colin. All right, that was like Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I told you how great it's like Taylor. Just no bs.

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