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We're going to talk about California's phony budget. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: It passed under the radar last week because the fix 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: is in. People thought they were smart voting for a 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: ballot measure which forces the politicians in Sacramento to come 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: up with a budget. 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: They did a nice work around. 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 3: They come up with a phony budget and then they 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: work on the details later what are called trailer bills. 18 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: Vince Fong will talk to me after three point thirty 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: about this. He's an assembly member from the Bakersfield area. 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: But we begin with a story that's kind of fascinating 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: everybody around the world, and that's the attempt to rescue 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: these five people who are underwater nine hundred miles east 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: of Cape god Out in the Atlantic. They're in what 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: is called a submersible, and the reason they're in the 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: submersible is they wanted to look at the wreckage of 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: the Titanic. We're going to bring on Alex Stone ABC 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: News for KFI with the latest on this. 28 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Story and the rescue efforts. Alex, Hey, their kad. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the clock is ticking on this and the 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: coast Guard believes if they are alive, they haven't tell 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: about three AMLA time on Thursday morning that they would 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: be out of oxygen. So this has got to go 33 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: on quickly. They've got to be found, They've got to 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: be rescued. There are so many hurdles in this. They 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: are not yet found, and if they are on the 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: bottom thirteen thousand feet down, then there's no plan yet 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: for how they would be rescued. 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: There are. 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: Experts from around the world try to figure this out 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: right now that if they did find them, how would 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: they get them. Think Apollo thirteen and the movie makeup 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: of that where they go into the room and they 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: dump all the pieces on the table and say, now, 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: figure out how we're going to do this. That's kind 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: of what they're doing right now. We got off the 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: line a little while ago with the commander of this 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: John Mager, the rear admiral running the effort, and he 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: told us this. 49 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: We will continue searching for them with all of our ability. 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: And so in this case, we understand from the operator 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 4: that the summercial was equipped with the emergency life support system. 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the oxygen, the scrubbers, the air scrubbers, they've 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: got backup like strips that they can hang in there, 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: and then they've got scuba like tanks, all of it, 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: adding up to about ninety six hours in total. Of 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: air submarine hunter aircraft are overhead. They're listening for sonar 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: pings right now. There is a private unmanned small submersible 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: in the water looking for them, and there is a 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: lot of equipment en route in case they do need 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: to be rescued, things that they could use. How would 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: they go down and get them? And today Captain Jimmie 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: Frederick the command Center with the Coast Guard saying this 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: as well. 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: So right now all of our efforts are focused on 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: finding the sub What I will tell you is we 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 5: have a group of our nation's best experts in the 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: unified Command and if we get to that point, those 68 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: experts will be looking at what the next course of act. 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: But Ken the the issue being that much of the 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: equipment is in Boston or other places thousand miles away. 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: The ships have to get there. Some are starting to 72 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: show up now, private ships with the military ships and 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: coast Guard. They got to get there. And if this 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: thing is snagged on the Titanic at the bottom, they've 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: got the way it's been described to us. 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: To pull them up. Think of the claw machine of 77 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: the arcade where they've got to go to that too. 78 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: You have to re partically get them from two and 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: a half miles, claw it perfectly and pull it up. 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I mean, everything has to go absolutely perfectly. They do 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: have one of those claw boats on board or right 82 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: on scene right now, but the feasibility of that isn't 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: really clear first, so they got to find them and 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: they haven't done that. 85 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 5: And he says it's a very complex search and the 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: unified teams working around the clock to bring all available 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: assets and expertise to bear as quickly as possible, and 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 5: an effort to solve this very complex problem. 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: So Ken three likely possibilities in this one is that 90 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: they're on the bottom and they're waiting without a lot 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: of air to go. Two is that there are a 92 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: lot of systems on board to bring them back up 93 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: in an emergency, to drop weight and to go up. 94 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: The problem being if they're bobbing around on the surface 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: of the ocean, they are screwed into this thing. They 96 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: can't get out. They're going to die anyway without oxygen, 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: even though looking out the window they could see the sky. 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: So there is the possibility they're alive and they're bobbing 99 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: around the sea. One thirties are up looking for them 100 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: in that way. And then one of the real possibilities 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: is that they're dead and that there was a brief 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: in the capsule and then the pressure would be like 103 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: squeezing a coke can and it would have been very 104 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: quick and it would have been over, probably before they 105 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: even knew what was going on. So you know that 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: there are those three, and then there's always something that 107 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: nobody's thinking about that could be going on. 108 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: But they're going on the belief right now that they're alive. 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: Now five people. 110 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: One is the CEO of this company which is called 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: Ocean Gate Stocked and Rush, and the other appeared to 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: be wealthy people right a father and son. 113 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per person 114 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: to go. One is a well the CEO, and then 115 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: a British billionaire is on board. There is a French 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: diver who is a Titanic historian and fiscionado who's on 117 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: board as well, and then a the Pakistani billionaire and 118 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: his son who are on board as well. So this 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: is where they go out for a week. Many times 120 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: there are communication issues or weather issues or other little flaws. 121 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: They will try over and over again and sometimes in 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that week get down once, maybe twice. Sometimes they don't 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: get down at all. And on this time they were 124 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: having weather issues there was a window that British billionaire 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: tweeted out that they had a small window they were 126 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: going to try to do it. They went down and 127 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: then communication went away. Not all that uncommon that they 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: lose communication. It does go on that time to time. 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: They get down there and they can't communicate. There's no 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: radio waves that make it in that kind of water 131 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: that they're communicating via text message essentially, and so that 132 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: sometimes for hours they would go off the grid and 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: then resurface. They thought that's what was going on in 134 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: this scenario, so there was some time lapse from when 135 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: they last heard from them to when they reported them 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: missing overdue because they thought they were going to come 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: back up. This is what goes on, And we actually 138 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: heard from this guy, Per Wimmer is his name. He 139 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: rode on this, He went down and saw Titanic, and 140 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: he told us this. 141 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 6: There's not much you can do if things go wrong, 142 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 6: because you were stuck in a cylinder at whatever depth 143 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 6: you're at. 144 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: So if they are alive, you can imagine by now 145 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: the smell in. 146 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: There, Yeah, thing it's very small people. 147 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they got to go to the bathroom 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: at some point. The you know, the apparently. 149 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: The curtain when you go to the bathroom is what 150 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: I've read. Yeah, and hungry, and but that's the key thing. 151 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: The air. 152 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the anxiety of the whole thing. And yeah, of 153 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: course the air in there. But right now, as they're 154 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: ticking away and not able to find them, even if 155 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: they are alive, getting to them is becoming less and 156 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: less likely. 157 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: Do you know how many years they've been sending down 158 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: these submersibles. Look at the top, it's been a few years, 159 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: a couple of years. So we got a look at 160 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: a lawsuit today from a former employee at ocean Gate 161 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: who says he was fired for exposing a weakness in 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: this submersible. That he reported that like an airplane, if 163 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: it is pressurized so many times, that this carbon fiber 164 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: that it was built out of, that it will rip 165 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: over time, but they won't know because it's in the 166 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: walls of this thing, the steel or titanium whatever it is, 167 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: in the inside the walls, and that he says that 168 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: they were ignoring that because they said the walls were 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: too thick to scan it. But he thought after repeated trips, 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: would eventually rip, and then it would be that rip 171 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 3: in a tin can where you squeeze it and that's 172 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: the tin can gone away. If that's what went on here, 173 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: that was twenty eighteen. He was making that claim today. 174 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: A lot of the companies that ocean Gate had been 175 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: quoting is working with them on this. They're separating themselves 176 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,359 Speaker 1: from it. Boeing and I believe the University of Washington 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: and NASA that they're saying, well, we didn't really play 178 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: a part in this. NASA says they helped a little 179 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: bit with some design stuff, but not the testing or 180 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the building of it, it didn't work on this at all, 181 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: that it was another submersible with ocean Gate that they 182 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: worked on, and the university is saying that they didn't 183 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: play a role in this either. So it's been around 184 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: for a while. But now we see this lawsuit. If 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: this is what it ends up being, if we'll ever 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: really know, if they ever find it, that that his 187 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: claim was and then they ended up settling out of court, 188 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: that there was a weakness in this that you pressurize 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: it so many times, you get weaknesses in the walls, 190 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: and that they would never know it. 191 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen every theory from the imploded on the 192 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: ocean floor too. Like you said, they could be bobbing 193 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: somewhere way out there on the surface, or which. 194 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: Is no better. They're not found. 195 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Imagine their back up, but they can't breathe, Yeah, because 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: he can't use GPS to track this thing. But they 197 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: can't get out on their own. They're they're screwed in there. 198 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: I actually say that because they actually use screws. I 199 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: think it's seven of them that they're screwed in. They're 200 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: bolted in. 201 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: And I heard that they might have a better chance 202 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: of just start banging on the hull right now to 203 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: try to make some sort of sound. 204 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the sonar and the listening that they're doing. 205 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: So they've got the submarine hunters that are up in 206 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the air. I mean, that's what they're doing. They're listening 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: for noise and that that potentially would keep them alive. 208 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: You know, they were experts yesterday saying that they would 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: instruct them to go to sleep. To you, as the 210 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: least amount of oxygen possible. I don't know how you 211 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: would do that if you think you're gonna die, you're not. 212 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: Let me just take a quick nap here and you know, 213 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: save the oxygen. Maybe over time they're gonna do that 214 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: if they're alive right now that as oxygen goes away, 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna fall asleep. But to try to force yourself 216 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: to sleep to save oxygen, you would have to be 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: in a much different mindset than I would be in 218 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: that moment. But yeah, banging that anything so that they're listening, 219 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: The planes are overhead, the boats are in the water. 220 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: They're listening right now. 221 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 2: All right, Alex, thank you very much for that report. 222 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: You got it. Thanks again, Alex. 223 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: Stone, ABC News for KFI on the search for the 224 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: Titanic submersible lost in the Atlantic. This again is nine 225 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: hundred miles east of Cape Cod. They went to look 226 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: at the wreckage of the Titanic. Deborah Mark would never try. 227 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: God never, that is the once in a lifetime experience, 228 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: even though it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: do it. 230 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't either, because they're it's two and a 231 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: half miles, but look what can go along. 232 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 7: It's just I don't care how small it is or 233 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 7: big it is. That that really that's another story. 234 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: But a god all right, A little bit more on 235 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: this story when we return. It's the John and Ken 236 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: Show KFI AM six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 237 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 238 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 239 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: John is on vacation this week. I'm here with the 240 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: Deborah Mark. We're talking of quote. A quick reminder that 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: the Moistline was coming back already on Friday, three days away. 242 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: You can reach the Moistline leave your messages for the 243 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: John and Ken Shows Moistline using the iHeartRadio app, the 244 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: microphone icon, or dial up the toll free number waiting 245 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: for your message. Nobody live gonna answer it one eight 246 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven sixt' 247 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: six ' four seven eight eight six. The story that 248 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: is captivating a lot of people in the news is 249 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: this submersible. It is a very small vessel, about the 250 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: size of a van, twenty two feet. Maybe it's got 251 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: five people in it, and they went down to look 252 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: at the records of the Titanic deep in the Atlantic 253 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Ocean off the coast of Cape Cod. Anyway, the situation 254 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: is pretty dire. They may have less than forty eight 255 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: hours of air left. I had told you before that 256 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: there were some questions about this experimental vehicle. A journalist 257 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: by the name of David Pogue did a segment for 258 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: CBS New Sunday Morning in November. He relays some of 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: the paperwork that you have to sign this experimental vessel 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: has not been approved or certified by a regular Tory body. 261 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 3: Could result in physical injury, emotional trauma or death. Another 262 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: form of passenger told the BBC of having to sign 263 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: a death waiver that lists one way after another you 264 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: could die on the trip, including mentioning death three times 265 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: on page one. So it's never far from your mind. 266 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: Pogue noted that while he was on the journey, the 267 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: submarine never made it to the Rex site because they 268 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: were communication errors. One passenger said, well, looks like we 269 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: were lost for two and a half hours. In a 270 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: tweety put out yesterday, Pogue said the craft was in 271 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: fact lost for five hours, and that adding an emergency 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: locator beacon was talked about. They could still send short 273 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: texts to the sub but did not know where it was. 274 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: It was quiet and very tense, and they shut off 275 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: the ship's internet to prevent us from tweeting, saying that 276 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: they needed to keep all channels open. As a reason 277 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 3: for cutting off the Internet access, Pogue said that while 278 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,359 Speaker 3: poor weather stopped from making a dive to the Titanic, 279 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: the team offered him a trip to the continental shelf 280 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 3: to look at shark breeding grounds. 281 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: Well, they only made it. 282 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,479 Speaker 3: Thirty seven feet down before floats came off the launching platform. 283 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: The mission had to be canceled. This was a by 284 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: the way, a submersival called the titan and it was 285 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: also sealed from the outside with seventeen bolts. The submersible 286 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: is piloted by a computer gaming controller. The ocean gates 287 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: CEO noted that he got one piece of equipment that 288 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: he used on the craft from Camper World, but disagreed 289 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: that some elements of the whole thing looks. 290 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: Like it was just Jerry rigged. 291 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 7: It. 292 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: Says here He did note that the vessel had just 293 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: one button, saying it should be like an elevator or not. 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: It shouldn't take a lot of skill to just descend 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: and go back up. But again we have a British 296 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: billionaire and explorer of a name of Hamish harding, a 297 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: Pakistani busines this men Shadzabwa Dagwud and his son Suliman, 298 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 3: and a seventy seven year old French explorer whose name 299 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: is Paul Henri Nargalai. Those are the people, the passengers 300 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: that they're looking for. And then the fifth person, of 301 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: course is the CEO of this company stocked in Rush, 302 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: who I mentioned had already been worn that this thing 303 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: was experimental. The Daily Mail, of course, put together a 304 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: little graphic presentation as to exactly what could happen to 305 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: you if you were trapped in a submersible like this. 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: There is hypothermia, you start shivering, then there's gradual suffocation. 307 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: You struggle to breathe, you develop headaches, you slowly become unconscious. 308 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: There is a co two scrubber on board. They remove 309 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: the gas from the air, but that's going to run 310 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: out in under forty hours. Now you will lose the 311 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: ability to use your hands and eventually pass out. The 312 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: average ocean temperatures about forty one degrees fahrenheit meeting the 313 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: sub and the passengers will get cold. They may even 314 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: suffer increased heart rates, light headaches, nausea, hyperventilation, and of 315 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: course what could eventually come is a form of panic attack. 316 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: I am not, by nature a claustrophobic person, Oh I am. 317 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: I know, I know a lot of people are Two 318 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: things I do not have, particularly are fear of heights 319 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: or a fear of close spaces. I don't really have 320 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: a lot of fears that I could say. You know, 321 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: obviously I don't like to be in the edge of 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: a cliff, and I wouldn't like to be in a 323 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: tiny sunken submersible. 324 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: But I don't have any natural fear. 325 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: In fact, a friend of mine was showing that his 326 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: dog likes to crawl under a chair and kind of 327 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: like snug himself into the corner. 328 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes animals like to do that. 329 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: They'd like to get themselves in tiny spaces because it 330 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: makes them feel snug and secure in some manner that 331 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: bring them back to, you know, when they were being mothered. 332 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: But so it's not uncommon for people to feel the 333 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: exact opposite of this. Yeah, The Titanic w Recorg site 334 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: is in the North Atlantic Ocean, twelve thousand feet below 335 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: the ocean's surface. There was a story just a couple 336 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: of weeks ago that they had sent out new three 337 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: D images of the records of the Titanic, which got 338 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 3: a lot of media attention. But I was not aware 339 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: that people were getting in submersibles and descending down there 340 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: to get some kind of a real close up view. 341 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: And of course the other possibility is that they got 342 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: tangled in some of the Titanic wreckage, perhaps some debris 343 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: or fishing nets. Something may have tangled up the submersible 344 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: and that's why. 345 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: It can't move. 346 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 7: I don't even think ken that I went on that 347 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 7: submarine ride at Disneyland. I mean, I just the thought, 348 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 7: just ah, there was when I was in Hawaii many 349 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 7: years ago, my family and I I don't know what 350 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 7: the excursion is called, but you're almost it looks like 351 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 7: you're in this kind of spacesuit helmet and then you 352 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 7: go down. Anyway, I popped right up. I said, forget this. 353 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 7: I threw my little helmet off. 354 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: There was no way I was. 355 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 7: I was panicking. I mean, I can't scuba dive either, 356 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 7: so this is so scary to me. And plus, there 357 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 7: are so many different ways that I would like to 358 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 7: spend an extra two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 359 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: But think of the stories you can tell. I saw 360 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: the records of the Titanic right there under water. 361 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: I was there. 362 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 7: I want to watch a movie or whatever they're I 363 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 7: don't think they have some kind of promo video I 364 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 7: saw for this. 365 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: I'd be fine just watching that. I don't need to 366 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: experience this. 367 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: No way. All right, we got more coming up. Johnny 368 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 3: Ken Show, KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere. It's 369 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio app. 370 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 371 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 372 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 3: You can hear the entire show if you miss any 373 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: of the live three hours. It is posted up sometime 374 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: not too long after four o'clock. Hey, KFIAM six forty 375 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: dot com also the iHeartRadio app, Sean and k on demand. 376 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: Well back in the days of Heads on a Stick 377 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: that John and Kenshaw was covering Sacramento politics, and it 378 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: would come around to big deficits and the idea of 379 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: raising taxes led us to heads on a stick, particularly 380 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: when it came to Republicans who were willing to raise 381 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: your taxes. Well, in twenty ten, voters passed a ballot 382 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: measure that makes them adopt an annual budget by June fifteenth. 383 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 2: Though they don't get paid. Well, they found their ways 384 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: around this. 385 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: And of course now in Sacramento, the Democrats have a 386 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 3: lock on most of the seats in the Assembly and 387 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 3: the state Senate, so what they passed by June fifteenth 388 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: in order to keep getting paid is nonsense. And then 389 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: the rest comes in messy trailer bills and everything else. 390 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: Vince Fong, Republican from Bakersfield who knows about these budget things, 391 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: is going to come on the show now to explain 392 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: this scam. Vince, how are you. 393 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 8: I'm hanging in there, Yeah, first question, I'm persevering Sacramento. 394 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't knowalysis must be tough for 395 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: you being in the super minority party. One hundred million 396 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: dollars surplus thirty billion dollar plus deficits just doneder a year. 397 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: And yet what do you know, they passed the budget 398 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: by June fifteenth. How did that happen? 399 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 8: That's all budget games, that's that's what everyone's playing up here. 400 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 8: And if you said that, you hit the nail of 401 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 8: the head. I mean, this budget framework that Democrats are 402 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 8: touting in Sacramento as as a good thing is completely unsustainable. 403 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 8: It's incomplete, and it's not physically responsible. I mean, the 404 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 8: Independent Legislative Analyst Office, who you know it provides analysis 405 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 8: for us, warned the legislature do not pass the budget 406 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 8: with ongoing budget deficits. The governor's own forecast, his own 407 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 8: projections show that they're going to be operating deficits that 408 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 8: range from fourteen to seventeen billion dollars per year over 409 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 8: the next four years. How is that an example of 410 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 8: fiscal responsibility? 411 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 2: So what happens? 412 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean, whatever they passed, the deficit is still there. 413 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: So now they have to come up with something in 414 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: budget trailer bills. They're going to pull their usual budget 415 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: tricks because apparently there's no tax increases on the on 416 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: the table. 417 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: Are there right now. 418 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 8: Well, there's a there's an MCO tax that is floating 419 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 8: out there that is being negotiated. But yeah, there's a 420 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 8: thirty two billion dollar deficit. The revenue numbers in the 421 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 8: City of California are going down, but Democrats are proposing 422 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 8: billions and billions of dollars of more spending. How the 423 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 8: how the Democrats have tried to solve this problem is 424 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 8: they've basically they've shifted money out to out into multiple 425 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 8: into the out years into twenty So that's how you 426 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 8: get all these deficits in the future, and they're borrowing more. 427 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 8: So you're going to see now all these bonds be announced, 428 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 8: like the governor announced the bond today, There's all these 429 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 8: There's going to be a housing bond, There's going to 430 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 8: be a climate bond. So basically, anything that isn't funded 431 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 8: in this budget, they'll just kick it out to a 432 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 8: bond and then they'll have the taxpayers pay the debt. 433 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 8: I mean again, this is not physically responsible. No no business, 434 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 8: no family would look at their own budget and say, 435 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 8: you know what, revenues are declining exponentially and we're just 436 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 8: going to keep spending the way that we've done or 437 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 8: we're gona actually gonna spend even more money and hope 438 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 8: that things will get better. I mean that's not how 439 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 8: we should budget. 440 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: No. Now, let's talk about the revenues. And of course 441 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: we know who have said many times in the show 442 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: how much California depends on the very wealthy for a 443 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: lot of the taxes that go into Sacramento. Do you 444 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: think it was not only the stock markets haven't done 445 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: so well in the last year or sow, but also 446 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: what about the very wealthy leaving the state? 447 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Is that having an impact too? 448 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 8: Oh? Absolutely, it's the biggest driver. I mean we get 449 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 8: three sources. We have three main sources of revenue into 450 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 8: city California, you know, personal income tax, corporate taxes on 451 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 8: sales taxes, those that are leaving the citate of California 452 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 8: in DROG. I mean, that is what's hurting our personal 453 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 8: income taxes. Stock markets going down, but we get him 454 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 8: more than fifty to sixty percent of our general fund 455 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 8: from the top one percent. I mean, just think of 456 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 8: that for a moment. We get a majority of our 457 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 8: general fund. And then the corporate taxes when businesses leave 458 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 8: the state, I mean we get less corporate revenue and 459 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 8: then as inflation remains high, as the ordinary Californians are 460 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 8: pulling back their spending because they just can't afford things 461 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 8: in California. I mean that hurts hurt to our sales taxes. 462 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 8: I mean, I wish that governor of California would focus 463 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 8: more on the crises of California than what's going on 464 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 8: in Florida. 465 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: I know, well, you know he's running a shadow of 467 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: presidency right now, is what we think is going on 468 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 3: here with him trying to raise his profile he can 469 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: position himself for next year. A twenty twenty eight California 470 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: is in the rear view Mira and Vince, what about 471 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: the reparations? 472 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: Where's that sitting? 473 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 8: I don't think that's going anywhere. The governor even has 474 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 8: thrown has thrown in the towel on that, and he knows. 475 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 8: I mean, look, all of these are just all to 476 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 8: make headlines, and I mean we have to get beyond that. 477 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 8: I mean, Californians continue to leave the state. Companies are 478 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 8: leaving or closing permanently. I mean, companies aren't even doing 479 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 8: business in California anymore. I mean, look at what state 480 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 8: Farm has announced, Look at what all states announced we 481 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 8: have an insurance crisis, and the governor's not even focused 482 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 8: on that. And that's on top of housing shortages, crime, 483 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 8: fence and all homelessness, flooding, hospitals closing. I mean, the 484 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 8: budget is supposed to address all of these things, but 485 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 8: all the governor wants to do is spend more money. 486 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 8: That's how he defines success. I mean, he thinks that 487 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 8: the more he spends, the better everything is, and that's 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 8: not true. 489 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: And he wants to focus on trans people and abortion 490 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: and fighting Ron Decantis. That's all he's doing with his time, 491 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: despite all the things that you just mentioned which deserve 492 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 3: much more attention. 493 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: All right, Vince, well, thanks for talking to me. I 494 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Always good to hear from you. 495 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 8: A good deal, Thanks for the attention on this. 496 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: Okay, this defends Fong, Republican assembly member also on the 497 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: budget committee and Sacramento. He's from the Baker's Field area. 498 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 3: And of course they just passed a phony budget together 499 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: out of the way so they can get getting paid. 500 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 3: And you'll see, because we learned that these trailer bills 501 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 3: can get really ugly and they can end up forcing things. 502 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh, there's a surprise that came after June fifteenth, 503 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: after June thirtieth, even nice. All right, more coming up 504 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the 505 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 506 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 507 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 508 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: Didn't catch the show live, you can always pick it 509 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: up on the podcast Johnny Can on demand. You can 510 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: do that through the iHeartRadio app or at KFIAM six 511 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 3: forty dot com. Should be up there between four and 512 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: four thirty for you. 513 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: To check out. 514 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: If you still watch any commercial TV, like the cable channels, 515 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: you're bombarded with pharmaceutical commercials and you may be familiar 516 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: with the products ozempic, we go V and Ribelsis. 517 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is. 518 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: Really for diabetics. But it was found that the main 519 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: ingredient of these medications sold by these three brand names 520 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: is semaglutide, and it mimics a hormone that well, it 521 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: prompts the body to produce more insulin and reduces blood 522 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: glucose sugar. It was also found that people lose weight 523 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: and the number of prescriptions for the drug has spiraled 524 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: more than two thousand percent in just three years. There 525 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 3: was a couple hundred thousand of these prescriptions in twenty nineteen. 526 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: Last year five million, And with that come the side effects. 527 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: There's one report that says eight and ten people have 528 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: reported some kind of side effects from ozempic, and it 529 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: can be mild to moderate, which includes severe diarrhea, vomiting, constipation, 530 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: and nausea. Those are the moderate side effects that you 531 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 3: could get from using one of these drugs to a 532 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: more well, let's just say, more complicated things like a 533 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: gallbladder related disorder. Some people get end up with gallstones, 534 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: pancream titus. This all because it's a quick way to 535 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: lose weight, isn't that nice. Doctors had to start rationing 536 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: ozempic back in May because they were widespread shortages nationwide. 537 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: There's a lot of social media influencers who first were 538 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 3: writing about the wonders of using it for weight loss, 539 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: and now they're writing about things with the side effects. 540 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: One of them had to go to the hospital for 541 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: six days and a thirty thousand dollars hospital bill due 542 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: to long term damage to their pancreas. And when I 543 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: see eight and ten reporting side effects, it sounds like 544 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: something you might want to skip. Why you try the 545 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: old fashioned way of losing weight, little exercise, cutting back 546 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 3: some of your choloric intate. Violent diarrhea is the way 547 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: they described it, loading nausea. Ay yeah, yeah, that's really 548 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: desperate time if you want to lose weight that badly. 549 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: All right, well we got Conway. 550 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 9: Hey now around here he is, Hey, what's the difference 551 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 9: between regular old fashioned diarrhea and violent diarrhea? 552 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 8: Uh? 553 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: If you don't know, have you ever had food poisoning? 554 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 8: Oh? 555 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well then you might know. 556 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 8: I've had. 557 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: I've had violent vomiting too, Yes, I've had to it. 558 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 2: And you feel like you're gonna die? You do, yeah, 559 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: you feel like can't. I mean, I get down on 560 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: my knees and I'm just like, please stop, and my 561 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: eyes water. Do you ever have that? You can't catch 562 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 2: your breath? Nothing? 563 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 9: And then once and then you're fine for an hour 564 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 9: and then it's uh, you know, take two tonight, we 565 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 9: have Alex Stone coming on with the clock is ticking 566 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 9: off and the coast guards still looking for these for 567 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 9: the submersible, and then and the people are bored. It's 568 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 9: a horrible situation. And then Colonel Terry verts v I 569 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 9: R T S coming on with us, retired NASA colonel 570 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 9: and he's a good friend of Hamish Harding, and so 571 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 9: we'll talk. 572 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: To them about Billionaire. 573 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 9: It's the Billionaire, and then we'll talk a little bit 574 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 9: about the Fourth of July Huntington Beach Parade. We've got 575 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 9: some more information for you. 576 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: That's a big deal down. Are you still in that? 577 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 9: You know, I have to go to Oregon this year, 578 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 9: so I'll miss it for the first time, like ten 579 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 9: years or so. I felt horrible, but Fourth of July 580 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 9: snuck up on. 581 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: Me again this year. You know, all of a sudden, 582 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: it's in two weeks. It's for two and a half weeks. 583 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 9: It's unbelievable that a couple of ding dongs and we'll 584 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 9: be home. 585 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: All right, big dog with you. Cadway is coming up next. 586 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: It's The John and Kent Show, and Michael Krozer has 587 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: the news from the KFI twenty four hour News center. 588 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to The John and Ken Show. 589 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: You can always hear us live on CAFI AM six 590 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 3: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 591 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.