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Speaker 3: You gotta get back to like what's our identity, Like

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Speaker 3: what are we good at? And not get so caught

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Speaker 3: up in like trying to pull a fast one on

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Speaker 3: Vic Fangio, Like.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Farah Brown, don't see that coming to Jeni.

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Speaker 1: People who have had very hot takes lately? Were they

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure you're referencing Greg Beddart, you know, vera

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Speaker 5: Taka's a that's two days in a row, Rah Taka's.

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Speaker 4: Deuce holding down the ford here for a minute, Fred

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Speaker 4: Come on, Mike, keep you going going. I forgot, I forgot.

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Speaker 4: The balls are so tender.

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Speaker 1: They're okay with being seen that way is my point.

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Speaker 5: You know, the one who cares tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: This guy Matt Jones says, it's uh, what the bestie's

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Speaker 1: scene on film?

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he's seen two other defenses, but I

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Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at chi Let's Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and we're one day closer to the New Jersey Jets. Yes,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, where they play.

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Speaker 4: Is still the Metals called the Metal Lands.

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Speaker 7: I still call it that, yes, yeah, but is it

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Speaker 7: technically the middle Lance No.

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Speaker 1: Well I think yeah, the technical area, the area technically arena.

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Speaker 1: It's East Rutherford is where the stadium is.

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Speaker 5: He's still stuck at for the Middle.

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Speaker 8: Of Jersey Jets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you stuck at that? And you're right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they called us the Boston Patriots, it'd.

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Speaker 4: Be wrong, right, you'd be the Foxboro Patriot.

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Speaker 1: Right. That's why we went with New England. Take the

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Speaker 1: whole region.

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Speaker 4: We were.

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Speaker 5: Billy Sullivan was pouting, that's why we're in the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: He was mad.

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Speaker 4: I was just on a zoom call with Pat Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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Speaker 4: I was real that random.

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Speaker 5: I spoke to Pat Sullivan once, like the first year

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Speaker 5: that I worked with fred We were doing I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: use the Patriot's been around. We were doing fortieth anniversary story.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know he runs. That's all TV trucks now

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Speaker 4: and there. He's like a whole TV. They do game

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Speaker 4: Thursday football.

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Speaker 1: They're thriving company.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of cool. Game A shout.

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Speaker 1: Out job, by the way, shout out to Game Creek.

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Speaker 1: They're a good company.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, okay, gets the Freddy stamp.

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Speaker 1: Uh so what do we got? We got Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: calling our offense simple.

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Speaker 4: But you're mixing up your chatter from Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill actually was incredibly complimentary of Christian He was No,

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Speaker 5: I know he was.

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Speaker 1: He was, And I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Sure you know because you just said that he.

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Speaker 3: Who called us tomato sauce.

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Speaker 1: He called us, but in a nice way. He said

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Speaker 1: what they do, they do really well.

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Speaker 3: I thought what he said was completely false.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Belichick speak pregame like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think he was talking out of his but.

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Speaker 5: They're really good I think he was trying to be complimentary,

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Speaker 5: but didn't have anything to compliment. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 5: here is what it is.

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Speaker 3: And I think he came up with something to say

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Speaker 3: that was but it's easy on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but wait a minute, you don't think he came

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Speaker 1: up with that. That's what his his room was saying.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but saying that the Patriots offense is

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Speaker 3: easy on the quarterback could not be further from the truth.

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Speaker 1: I know. But my point is, Susgard, it didn't come

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Speaker 3: I think they were possibly. I just think that he

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the reason why he's saying it's

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Speaker 8: This is exact quote. They don't really have a complex offense.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty simple for the quarterback to get the gap scheme.

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Speaker 8: Everything is really simple, but they excel at it. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everything.

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Speaker 1: So I think he tried to COMPLI that's what I say.

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Speaker 5: I think he was trying to be complimentary but didn't

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Speaker 1: But when he's talk about gap scheme and he didn't

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Speaker 1: come up with that, that's what he was told by

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Speaker 5: Did anybody tell you that what the offenses are when

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that this, the Bill O'Brien offense,

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Speaker 3: is not easy on the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I understand it. I know I totally agree with Evan

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you're quarterback watching the defense and you

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Speaker 4: Threw, that's why I think you saying that.

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Speaker 7: If you're the quarterback getting up at the line trying

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Speaker 7: make all the premium calls and everything.

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Speaker 5: How many completions did he have in the last game,

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Speaker 5: and six of them traveled more than ten yards? Like

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Speaker 5: that's what Sauce Garden is talking about. That's fair, that's

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Speaker 5: why he's.

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Speaker 4: Saying it's easy.

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Speaker 5: But I I can go back countless like Vinny Testaverdi,

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Speaker 5: quarterbacks that have come through here and talked about how

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Speaker 5: It's not an easy system on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And is that because Tom Brady, you know, had

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Speaker 4: That sounds about right, Yeah, it sounds about right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how complicated it was, and

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Speaker 7: you know, evolving the offense into I mean, I think

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Speaker 7: through that, So I think that that kind of highlights

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Speaker 7: the gap so to speak of you know what, what

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Speaker 7: it's also the league, the league in general has just

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Speaker 7: gone full boar offense, you know, and it's there's not

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Speaker 7: really a place for defensive coaches anymore. It's this is

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Speaker 7: not part of the game anymore as it once was.

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Speaker 7: Maybe when he started.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I killed the room with that one.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's that's why I figured more things he

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Speaker 1: was going to tu to Tyreek Hill, what Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 4: Gonzo got some links and cam Roun and I don't

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care. I kill us to say

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just if I just watched the film,

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Speaker 1: you can see if it's nice dollars, you know. Sticking

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Speaker 1: with him, I think he had a good game.

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Speaker 5: No, I definitely.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody. I mean, I think so everybody had

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Speaker 5: But so does everybody else. You make it sound like

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Speaker 5: you were arguing with someone some people trying to get

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Speaker 5: you going. It's because I'm impartial.

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Speaker 7: One more interesting little tidbit I thought when we were

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Speaker 7: in the locker room yesterday, Juju spoke again, which I

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Speaker 7: give Juju credit for speaking like he spoke last week,

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Speaker 7: he's been in the cross. Here's a lot of times

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Speaker 7: those guys hide, but he's both this weekend. Last week

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Speaker 7: kind of you know, gone in there and spoke, but

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Speaker 7: he sort of spoke of being frustrated about how hard

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Speaker 4: And I get what he was.

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Speaker 7: Kind of getting that, but I also couldn't help but think, like,

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Speaker 4: Believe that they pushed these guys.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to say more than any

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Speaker 7: other NFL team, but I would say they pushed these

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Speaker 7: what point when you don't get the results that you're

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Speaker 7: looking for, do you start to kind of not buying

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 7: And at what point is that frustration going to boil

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Speaker 7: butts and we're not getting so I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 7: buying in anymore to this, you know, like that, It

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Speaker 7: just he's literally said, you know, we're getting frustrated because

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Speaker 7: we're putting in so much work and we haven't seen.

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Speaker 4: The results yet.

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Speaker 7: I hope they see the results this weekend. But you know,

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Speaker 7: what results are satisfying to him, you know, what results

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Speaker 7: are going to make them say, hey, all this work

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Speaker 7: maybe it was more, maybe it was less than Kansas

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Speaker 7: and if it doesn't translate at some point, when do

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Speaker 7: they kind of say, you know what, I'm done, I'm

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Speaker 7: done putting in all this extra work.

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Speaker 1: Well, and then maybe he's hearing other people say, well,

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Speaker 1: we just need to work harder, and he's.

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Speaker 9: Thinking there are people working what other people and that's yeah, no,

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Speaker 9: and then that's Mac and you know, but it's like

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Speaker 9: I imagine being one of those players and saying, I

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Speaker 9: can't work any harder.

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Speaker 4: I'm here tween hours a day, Like what else do

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Speaker 4: I have to do to.

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Speaker 7: You know, all of a sudden we can move the ball,

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Speaker 7: score points and not shoot ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this week, at least for one week,

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Speaker 1: we get a reprieve, we get a win.

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Speaker 7: You know, So what about the weather, though, I think

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Speaker 7: that's just about you know, that's but that's you know,

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Speaker 7: it's like one of those games where it's.

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Speaker 4: Gonna kind of just what, all right, it's going to rain?

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Speaker 4: What like the one it win too? I thought it

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Speaker 5: Like opening day, the whole day, opening day, But it

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Speaker 7: Well, I just always think it's funny because it's like

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Speaker 5: But I think those are different kind of games when

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Speaker 3: That mud game with Corey Dylon, Oh yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: Us ever keep track of how many times Tomorrow just

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Speaker 4: We had we had a class. When she's just out,

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Speaker 7: Yesterday we were talking about like red flags in uh

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Speaker 4: Brought up astrology and then and then some already was like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think if if it is really

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Speaker 5: If it's really bad and you can't throw the ball, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we we should Zach, it's not you

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think it is. Either you fall down

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Speaker 7: Do you think it's a problem, Like I find myself

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Speaker 4: And how those two games for every team.

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Speaker 5: That's the very NFL.

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Speaker 4: I try to pump the brakes a little bit, but.

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Speaker 5: Everything's eighteen eighteen sagas. Yeah, right, that's what That's what

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Speaker 1: It is it's one game a week. You got a

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Speaker 5: I think, and everything you said last week is going

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Speaker 5: this team is they can score, Mike, they can score.

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Speaker 3: But this team has been the same story. It's just like,

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Speaker 3: we've seen this is the same script for two three

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Speaker 4: And I didn't mean that directly. It's like just the page.

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Speaker 7: It's just every it's like, well, they're seventeenth in the

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Speaker 5: No, I totally get that, but I also think that

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Speaker 4: I kind of like that.

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Speaker 5: I think that's why the NFL is king is because

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Speaker 3: It, but it's like if you're overreacting. Like a good example,

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Speaker 3: I would say they could win ten straight games and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the one caveat there would be Burrow as long

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Speaker 5: Yes, But but you know, one of the segments I

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Speaker 5: You know, no one was like, you know what, they're

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you still back to what your preseason expectations were,

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Speaker 3: This is one of two things that are irking me

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Speaker 3: right now about about oh God, It's happens too often,

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Speaker 3: like you're overreacting to a team that is five hundred

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Speaker 5: Who are we talking about? Just in general, like the Patriots?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like you know, you're like settled down,

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Speaker 3: The other thing that is really grinding my gears is

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Speaker 3: I don't think that was a four unforced error.

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Speaker 1: I think I could argue that it was an ill

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Speaker 5: But I don't think it was unforced.

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Speaker 1: No, but ill advised is an unforced error.

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Speaker 3: But ill advised that is because they're trying to make

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Speaker 1: The field, but I get that. But like there's I

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Speaker 3: But teams that are are not good make more bad

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Speaker 1: And you could also say that teams that aren't good

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Speaker 5: That's my point.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But I.

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Speaker 4: Still say that Max pick six, what's that one?

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Speaker 5: I don't know?

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Speaker 1: That was a first down? Right?

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Speaker 5: The Parker throw?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So like what was he forcing.

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Speaker 1: Point? Yeah, I still say it was ill advised.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so Tomorrio Douglass, the situation Tomrio Douglas cutting

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Speaker 3: is not an unforced error to me?

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Speaker 5: That is, he's not fast enough to do that.

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Speaker 4: That one I agre.

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Speaker 3: Or Max picked six? To me in the Eagles game

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Speaker 3: like a team like the Dolphins. The Dolphins don't necessarily

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Speaker 3: need to press the issue every single time they have

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Speaker 7: So if they had t Higgins Pop Douglas wouldn't have fumbled, if.

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Speaker 3: They had other players that were not like you're you're

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Speaker 3: trying to make a play because he knows I'm like

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Speaker 5: So if I get it, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know about that. I just think it was just

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Speaker 1: I need to do.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you it was, but see guarantee it.

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Speaker 5: Those are things that you can't prove. And I get

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Speaker 5: saying is it's a bad decision born out of desperation.

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Speaker 1: No, I hear you.

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Speaker 5: Like if he like he did fumble on one of those,

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Speaker 1: don't think they're telling him that.

445
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Speaker 3: I don't think that it's not about the coaches. I

446
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Speaker 3: think it's a mentality about the players. And I think

447
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 3: the same thing happened last year.

448
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Speaker 4: I think that's scary. I mean they're already desperate. Press

449
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Speaker 4: that's that's.

450
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Speaker 1: That's pretty what you're saying.

451
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I think it's a typical to you semantic argument.

452
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it, and I'm here for it.

453
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not a real thing. You know.

454
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Speaker 1: I I agree with you in the Demario Douglas one,

455
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Speaker 1: But on the on the Mac Jones one, I think

456
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Speaker 1: that was a unforced.

457
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Speaker 5: Ere I think the bigger thing about turnovers, you didn't

458
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Speaker 5: need to do that, which is kind of you know,

459
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Speaker 5: kind of parallel to what you guys are talking about.

460
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Speaker 5: And I, like I said, I think you guys are

461
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Speaker 5: both right in a certain way about whether or not

462
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Speaker 5: they're forced because they're they're pressing, or they're just making

463
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Speaker 5: bad decisions. But I look at it as like, so

464
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Speaker 5: I think Tua did everything that Mac did on his interception.

465
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Speaker 5: He made a bad choice, a bad throw, bad everything,

466
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Speaker 5: and they pick it off, Dolphins defense comes out and

467
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Speaker 5: stops them three and out. They get the ball back

468
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Speaker 5: and the first play touchdown. Like that's what you do

469
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Speaker 5: if you're a good team, Like you can make a

470
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Speaker 5: mistake and it's not going to derail the whole game.

471
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Speaker 5: And I feel like the Patriots have made a handful

472
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Speaker 5: of mistakes that have completely put them behind the eight

473
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Speaker 5: ball because they can't recover from them. And the to

474
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Speaker 5: Mario Douglas fumble is the best example. We talked about

475
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Speaker 5: this yesterday and then they ended up going whatever it was,

476
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Speaker 5: eighty three yards for a touchdown after recovering a fumble.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, at some point though, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: like to Evans's point, if they're owing three, right, then

479
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Speaker 1: you can make the point that every mistake they make

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Speaker 1: now from that is because they're pressing, because they're owing

481
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Speaker 1: three and oh my god, you know, like you know,

482
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Speaker 1: you can't let them off the hook like that.

483
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Speaker 5: I think individually my whole point that's why I think

484
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Speaker 5: both of you guys are right.

485
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily that I think pressing

486
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Speaker 3: is maybe like going a little too far. I just

487
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Speaker 3: think my my whole point is everybody is like, oh,

488
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Speaker 3: just stop turning the ball over and you'll start winning games.

489
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that simple for this team. And

490
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Speaker 3: I think that that's like everybody is just chalking up

491
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Speaker 3: the first two weeks of the season of well, if

492
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Speaker 3: you didn't even the head coach who said it after

493
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Speaker 3: the game on Sunday, if you just stop turning the

494
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Speaker 3: ball over and you stop shooting yourselves in the foot

495
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Speaker 3: and you start this is what this is what it

496
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Speaker 3: looks like when you're not a very good team, Like

497
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Speaker 3: you turn the ball over, you make penalties, you give

498
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Speaker 3: up sacks.

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Speaker 1: Good turn the ball over too. But the Paull's point

500
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Speaker 1: day over.

501
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Speaker 3: Not as much as bad teams. No, but every year

502
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Speaker 3: when you look at teams that lose the turnover margin

503
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Speaker 3: and the teams that are bad are than ones that

504
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Speaker 3: lose it by TA in general.

505
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Speaker 5: That is that is that is the great, the great

506
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Speaker 5: predictor of success. It's the turno.

507
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Speaker 1: Right now, the Patriots are minus two, right you know? Yep?

508
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Speaker 5: So I also, as we've talked about previously, I think

509
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Speaker 5: is a little deceiving because what is actually a turnover

510
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Speaker 5: isn't really getting credited as one. I think turning it

511
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Speaker 5: over and downs in your own territory is a turnover. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 5: like the Eagles did an opening day, but it doesn't

513
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Speaker 5: count as one, so that Patriots are still minus two,

514
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Blockfield goal pages take over

515
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Speaker 5: in Miami territory, yep, doesn't count as a turnover.

516
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Speaker 4: Sounds like you got a new step bruin, right, Yeah,

517
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 4: it could be the it's the same.

518
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Speaker 5: It's the same thing with the defensive points, you know,

519
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 5: and the only points they actually count is when the

520
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Speaker 5: guy houses it, whereas if he runs it back to

521
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Speaker 5: the two and they go in, no, that's offensive touchdown.

522
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Speaker 5: Like that's pretty frustrating. I know the DVOA takes into

523
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Speaker 5: consideration stuff.

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Speaker 7: Someone just some of them are like, you really want

525
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Speaker 7: to see what the real points are?

526
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Speaker 9: Point four points against doesn't do it shouldn't count for

527
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Speaker 9: the offensive iterks me.

528
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Speaker 3: That's like when you look up, like who are the

529
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Speaker 3: offenses that lead the league in points? Well, those that

530
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Speaker 3: points per game counts, defensive touchdowns, counts special team's returns.

531
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Speaker 4: And yet it's used for offensive right, Like can we

532
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Speaker 4: just have.

533
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Speaker 3: Can I just have offensive points? Like raw up offensive point?

534
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Speaker 3: Because first in twenty twenty one, for example, the Patriots

535
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Speaker 3: were a top ten scoring offense. They wouldn't have been

536
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Speaker 3: if you took at all the defensive touchdowns.

537
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Speaker 8: That's actually fair because if you look at the cowboys

538
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Speaker 8: forty point win, if you subtract their two defensive touchdowns.

539
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Speaker 1: Right, No, I think absolutely when you're looking at offensive stats,

540
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't include what the defense does, you know, So

541
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Speaker 1: that's I don't know why they don't do that.

542
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Speaker 5: No, Like I said, there are some much more some

543
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Speaker 5: of those metrics. Some of those metrics do take into

544
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Speaker 5: account the short fields and the direct points that are scored,

545
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Speaker 5: and you know some of those are a little bit

546
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Speaker 5: more accurate. Yeah, I mean indicators.

547
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Speaker 1: Listen, if you know, if the offense takes over at

548
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Speaker 1: the ten and they score, give them the points they

549
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Speaker 1: scored the other team had a chance, but a pick

550
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Speaker 1: six shouldn't those six points shouldn't go to the offense.

551
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Speaker 4: You know, would you have like a minimum drive distance of.

552
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Speaker 5: Fun I would have different categories, Yeah, I would. I

553
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Speaker 5: would have you know, drives of fifty yards or greater

554
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Speaker 5: for points as opposed.

555
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Speaker 4: To you know, those could be weighted more.

556
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's exactly how I would do it if

557
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Speaker 5: I was, you know, into that sort of thing. I

558
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Speaker 5: don't really care, so I'm not just I could care little,

559
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Speaker 5: I know, you know.

560
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Speaker 4: A whole segment, you know, like, yeah, this is what

561
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Speaker 4: they say the points are, but when we go to

562
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Speaker 4: the Parlo index, actually, well.

563
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Speaker 5: And I'll give you an example of like right.

564
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Speaker 1: Now, the O seven Patriots weren't that good.

565
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Speaker 5: They tell you why, But that's that was sixty yard

566
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Speaker 5: touchdown bombs. Those are probably count pretty I would say,

567
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Speaker 5: you think the seven offense carried the defense.

568
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Speaker 1: You can't count any of Randy mossl Rob Gronkowski's touchdowns

569
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Speaker 1: because they were just better than everybody.

570
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Speaker 3: By dv o A, the O seven Patriots are the

571
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Speaker 3: greatest team of all time. Yeah, I mean I didn't

572
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Speaker 3: need dv A to tell me that, But like you

573
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Speaker 3: know better than the eighty five Bears, better than you know.

574
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Speaker 10: Speaking of the Bears, said, do I know what people,

575
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Speaker 10: I've seen a lot of people being like it's bad,

576
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Speaker 10: like and I but I've never seen anyone actually say

577
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Speaker 10: what it what it was.

578
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Speaker 1: There's like anybody supposedly Peanut Tillman now works for the FBI, right.

579
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Speaker 3: That that that didn't happen. None of that's true. No, no, no,

580
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Speaker 3: he doesn't work for the he's not an informant.

581
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Speaker 4: He didn't punch the ball out off the field because departed.

582
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Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, they raided Wait a minute, they didn't raid

583
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Speaker 5: house Hall.

584
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Speaker 3: That wasn't They didn't.

585
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 5: They didn't raid his house. That's not true.

586
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Speaker 8: Apparently apparently none of that like according to was it Ian.

587
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Speaker 3: Yeah, rap sheet said like had like three bullet points

588
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Speaker 3: of like the original report Pena. Tillman is not involved

589
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: it whatsoever, So that part of it was false. Hallas

590
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Speaker 3: Hall was not raided. That part was false. And I

591
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Speaker 3: don't I don't know about his house, but like he's

592
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: under investigation for something, Okay, but but I don't I

593
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Speaker 3: don't think that it's.

594
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Speaker 1: Like, well, he tendered his resignation, yes, and there's a

595
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Speaker 1: text that got out where he said I royally screwed up.

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Bears handled it internally by tendering

597
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: his resignation, and so the league isn't involved with any

598
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Speaker 3: sort of investigation either. Those are sort of the three

599
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: points that that rap sheet.

600
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Speaker 5: Yeah, someone in I think it was Quotney Cronin I

601
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Speaker 5: think was the name that I saw yesterday in Chicago

602
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Speaker 5: immediately shut down the Hallas Hall part.

603
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

604
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Speaker 5: The other I don't really buy any of the other

605
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: people trying to say what is true. I think that

606
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Speaker 5: there's something going on with Alan Williams.

607
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean, you just don't resign like that

608
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: for no reason.

609
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Speaker 5: Like, the only thing that I thought was shot down

610
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Speaker 5: yesterday was the Hallis Hall part. And but nobody where

611
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Speaker 5: did everyone get that from? Does he not work for

612
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 5: the FBI? He does not. He does not even work

613
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Speaker 5: for the FBA, because that was that was definitely making

614
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Speaker 5: the round yester that he works for the FBI. No,

615
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Speaker 5: he doesn't work for the f Peanut Tillman, they said

616
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Speaker 5: that Peanut Tillman was the whistleblower.

617
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and apparently he has nothing to do with

618
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Speaker 3: this whatsoever.

619
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Speaker 5: Yeah, not buying that that I don't buy that. Well,

620
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: that doesn't come out of thin air.

621
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Speaker 3: That's what the new reporting is on it at least.

622
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Speaker 5: But I'm not really interested in the Peanut Tillman part.

623
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Speaker 5: I'm interested in.

624
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Speaker 1: What he did.

625
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 4: What he did? Yeah, that's why is nobody writing it.

626
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: Well, there was speculation, but what so we can't do that.

627
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: I'd rather not.

628
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't even know what the speculation.

629
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: I tried to find it yesterday.

630
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 8: Is it Olivia Benson episode?

631
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 4: Oh you asking?

632
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 3: I have no clue what that is?

633
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 5: Mad a little slow in.

634
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: The drug order said.

635
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: Like one of the seventeen line orders.

636
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then there is also in Chicago. Is not

637
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: the best producer in the Justin Fields had to backtrack

638
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: on something he said in one of his press conferences.

639
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: But the issues he's having and he said it's coaching.

640
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 5: It's close to being over.

641
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Speaker 1: And he got back to the locker and called the

642
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: media too and say, hey, I didn't want that to

643
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: get twisted. I didn't mean that the coaching was bad.

644
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he meant he's thinking too much about what

645
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 5: he's being coached. Yeah, but terrible, Look is it is

646
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: it still terrible?

647
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: Is the truth. Last game they won was here. That

648
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: was the last in Chicago.

649
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, they lost twelve in a row.

650
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Speaker 9: I believe we have a weather update by the way, Yeah,

651
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Speaker 9: come on, okay, now it's I'm on soon.

652
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: You're not far off. Good meteor If that's if that

653
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: actually happens, then.

654
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: According to the National Weather Service, there you go, there

655
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: is a tropical cyclone warning.

656
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's different game the East Coast.

657
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: That's going to affect Washington, Buffalo, Baltimore, Indie and the

658
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Jets and the Patriots.

659
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

660
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Speaker 5: So a tropical cyclone cycle is that? I've never heard

661
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 5: that Troup cyclone, the bomb cyclone.

662
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: I remember that one Bombo genesis, Bombo genesis for the snow.

663
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Speaker 4: Try to make a T shirt off that tropical cyclone,

664
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Speaker 4: not three And I did a no Bombo Genesis off

665
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Speaker 4: t shirt.

666
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Speaker 3: Thirty five mile an hour, not the ones.

667
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Speaker 5: Thirty five mile hour that passes THELO index. Yes, that impact,

668
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: that impacts the way the teams want to playoff. Yes,

669
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Speaker 5: it'll be.

670
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Speaker 1: That would be just our luck if that happened. Pop

671
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: Douglas gets in the open, he's running down the field

672
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the cyclone just takes him up,

673
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: we never see him again.

674
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Speaker 5: So the Pop Douglas thing off to Oz, I was

675
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 5: really glad that Ramandri Stevenson chimed.

676
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Speaker 4: In, Oh god, that killed me. That killed me.

677
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I wrote, right, That's exactly what I

678
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: wrote Tuesday.

679
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: I was I missed a lot of times.

680
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 5: I was like, thank you for Montre Stevens.

681
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: He just came out and said it what what what

682
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: he said?

683
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Speaker 5: Well, I hope he doesn't hope he doesn't have to

684
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Speaker 5: miss a bunch of games like I did.

685
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: Oh I did see Yeah, yeah.

686
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Speaker 4: I thought that was I don't you know, like some

687
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: of these things like we talk about him, they happen

688
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 4: and you assume, and but just to hear a player

689
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: come out and actually.

690
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: What's the word that Fred uses when little things like

691
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: this like festers fishers?

692
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

693
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 5: Is that what that's that's what you used yesterday?

694
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: Right?

695
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's that crazy. I mean, thanks captain. Obviously

696
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 5: the big game, this one. If they lose this game,

697
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: I think some of that stuff, but that's I think

698
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: you started it with the show Mike about Juju.

699
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I do.

700
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: Think and like I said, I don't think there was

701
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: anything wrong with what Max said about you know, we

702
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: have to do Like basically, he's saying, we all think

703
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 5: we're working hard enough, but world too, so it's not

704
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: it's not enough. And I can also understand her from

705
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: a player's perspective saying, well, I'm doing everything I can

706
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 5: and this guy is like, what do you want to do?

707
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: You know, what do you want? And I'm not just

708
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: talking about Juju. I'm talking about the rest of the team.

709
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: So that kind of stuff can be fracturing if you

710
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: don't get some success.

711
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 7: I mean, do you guys ever remember anything in the

712
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 7: twenty years And I know the losses were few and

713
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 7: far between, and certainly losing streaks were even fewer and

714
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 7: far between you, but you ever remember an instance of

715
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 7: Belichick kind of pulling back off the hammer a little

716
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 7: bit and lightening up things, or you know, taking some

717
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 7: proactive steps to say, you know what, we're all so

718
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 7: just like grinding on it right now, we need to

719
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Speaker 7: take a step back.

720
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Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but like a lot of times,

721
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Speaker 1: not just Belichick but also Parcels, when they play bad,

722
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: you think, oh, this is going to be a rough

723
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: press conference, and that's when he would lighten up, and

724
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: then sometimes when they kick butt, he'd come out with

725
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the reverse psychology.

726
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Speaker 5: Definitely would do that, And I would say I don't

727
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: know when enough about whether he pulled back on the throttle,

728
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: but I do remember there was one year they weren't

729
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 5: playing particularly well. I want to say it was between

730
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 5: it's probably like five oh six, somewhere in that area,

731
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: and he was like telling the players, like, when you

732
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 5: make a good play, get up and sell them.

733
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: You should be he.

734
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 5: Should be happy when you make a good play.

735
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Speaker 4: That was in the nine. Yeah, he was highlighting the

736
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: win from eight against Denver and showing, you know, was

737
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: it the no, it was, yeah, I was the win.

738
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 7: But that was he was contrasting with that, somebody makes

739
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 7: a play, nobody seems to care, right, And he was.

740
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: Telling them, you know, you should be excited, get up

741
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: and show some excitement. So let that's kind of like

742
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 5: a lighter kind of bill like you would think that,

743
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: you know, old school. He doesn't, you know, just act

744
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: like you've done it before, not that kind of nonsense. Yeah,

745
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 5: but he went the other way. And I think Fred's

746
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 5: definitely right about Parcels especially, but Belichick too, just when

747
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: you think it's like, oh my god, this is going.

748
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: To be awful, and it's yeah, it's not quite as awful.

749
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: No, he recognize that it's never great, but it wasn't

750
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: quite as bad as you thought it was going to be.

751
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 7: But I think the point I was trying to make

752
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 7: when I brought up the weather initially was just that

753
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 7: the Patriots need to win so bad, and what if

754
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 7: it just happens to unfold like the Bills game did

755
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, and that's what the Jets do.

756
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 7: The Jets run the ball and they have, you know,

757
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 7: a couple of big plays, and you know, it's just

758
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 7: it's a game that was completely impacted by the weather.

759
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: They're owing three though, no excuses, but you're really just

760
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 4: a game you can't really judge, like that Buffalo one

761
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: where you know, nobody's throwing that out as an example anymore.

762
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: It's just it's a tough spot. It's a tough spot

763
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: to be in a must win in Dallas the next one, right,

764
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: but to be in a must win game and you

765
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 4: gotta what was it a cyclone?

766
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 5: Tropical tropical cyclone, tropical cyclone, sorry.

767
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 8: Just like a hurricane at that point.

768
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: Like tropical cyclone. Well, the difference between those would be

769
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: the winds origin. Okay, but what winds have to be.

770
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Over cyclones over the water? But like, what is a

771
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: land based cyclone?

772
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 5: What is that tornado?

773
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Why don't they just call it a tornado? I what's

774
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the difference between a cyclone and a tornado?

775
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: There's got to be a listener out there, who's a

776
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: weather man?

777
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: Before I get yelled at, I am totally joking around.

778
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: What is a tropical I know nothing.

779
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 7: It's probably gonna be warm, I bet like it'll be

780
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 7: kind of you it would be kind of hot out

781
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 7: maybe because it's tropical.

782
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: It's tropical.

783
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: What's it going to be like in here? It's not

784
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: going to impact my ride home?

785
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 4: Is it?

786
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: That would be a good drink though, you know, cyclone

787
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: tropical like tropical cyclone like that?

788
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: You do some pineapple juice drink pineapple juice, guava juice,

789
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: maybe some rum such a.

790
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: Va tropical cyclone mixture duface can get an e bowl.

791
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand, no, I wouldn't.

792
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: It sounds like a premium use That tornado is a

793
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: single event in a tropical storm consists of several dozens

794
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 6: of connective storm. Say it again, please, Tornado is like

795
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 6: a single event, and a tropical cyclone is comprised of

796
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 6: several to dozens of connective storms.

797
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: Oh so it's just cyclones everywhere.

798
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 7: Just it's not like Wizard of Oz where one big

799
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 7: tornado just tears through the It's a twister.

800
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot of different ones. Exactly, We're not gonna throw.

801
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: It's not because of you. It's really not because of you.

802
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: It's the weather.

803
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: Well, as Bill said earlier in the week, you know

804
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: we've won games Will throwing three passes, We've won them

805
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 5: all throwing fifty. He said that.

806
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's like when he references the Super Bowl,

807
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: the second one against the Rams, and like somebody asked

808
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: him like a couple of years ago about like the

809
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: game changing and offense, and well, we won a super

810
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: Bowl thirteen to three. Well what about the AFC Championship game?

811
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: Bill?

812
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 5: Did you win that one? Someone actually tweeted that out.

813
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 5: I forget who are I'd blame them. It was Chad

814
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 5: Finn about how it was the lowest scoring super Bowl.

815
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: I mean, like, so the actual game, that's what you're

816
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 5: gonna like, that wasn't the lowest scoring team that won

817
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, right like, there was the lowest scoring

818
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: super Bowl, like one game. No one says you can't

819
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 5: win a game.

820
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: Right like once, Mike you mentioned the like what Belichick

821
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: like pulling back or whatever, and it's not necessarily pulling back.

822
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: But I was listening to one of Paul's shows the

823
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: other day and Ted Johnson was on, and the one

824
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: team started oh and two also, and so did the

825
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: ninety six team. They both started ohing two and Ted

826
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: Johnson mentioned that after the I don't know, Paul probably

827
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 3: remembers who they played in one when they lost the second.

828
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: Game, Ted Ted got this wrong, Actually he misremembered it.

829
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 5: Fre Fred will remember it. So he buried the ball.

830
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Bill took off all out there had had

831
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: some poor equipment guy probably dig a giant physically did

832
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: it and and physically buried the ball and said we're

833
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: moving you know, we're moving on.

834
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 5: It's with Jimmy Hoffa.

835
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 4: We go look for it out there somewhere with well

836
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: I lost in the construction.

837
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: And then Matt Man grows, Dad, that was that was great?

838
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: His they was ninety four shut keep shoveling the shovel.

839
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: So they had this shovel in the room. Yeah, dig in?

840
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: When when do you When are you guys gonna have enough?

841
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 5: When are you gonna fight back? When are you gonna

842
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 5: dig in? And they brought a shovel out and that

843
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: was like that seven game winning streak that sent him

844
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 5: to the playoffs in ninety four. They had a shovel

845
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 5: behind the kind of like TJ Sledgehammer.

846
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love TJ Sledgehammer. Yeah.

847
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: And then parcels what he would do before a game,

848
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: you know, trap games before in the morning, he had

849
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: somebody hanging mouse traps all over the locker room.

850
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 5: You're gonna fall for dangerous, You're gonna you're gonna fall

851
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 5: into the trap.

852
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 4: Didn't get hurt.

853
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 5: That has like high level, multi billion dollar business.

854
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: And this is what we're trying to like set amount.

855
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: So Ted Johnson was funny. I heard the same clip

856
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 5: that that Evan talked about. The only thing is he

857
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 5: did that Bill did that after the fourth game to

858
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 5: drop them to one and three. Yeah, they went on

859
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 5: to Brady came in, they won the game against the Colts,

860
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: and then they went out to They went down to

861
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 5: Miami and got absolutely obliterated like they often did down

862
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: in Miami, and they came back up and they buried

863
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 5: the ball, like we're just washing our hands.

864
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: Of that whole game metaphor and Ted and.

865
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Ted Johnson was funny. He's like, I don't know, He's like,

866
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: I didn't really make much sense because but then we

867
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: were all like, shows you how dumb we all are.

868
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 5: We're all like, yeah, yeah, all right, new start, Like

869
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 5: here we go.

870
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: Word waiting for a football tree to grow?

871
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: Uh?

872
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: Would that's still work today? Like I was still like, guys.

873
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, this is hokey, Like what are we doing?

874
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 5: I think if you did it today, someone would be

875
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 5: like recording it and make fun of you on social media.

876
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: Remember Shackleton's Adventure, Yeah, yeah, that was another motivational thing.

877
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: Watched and watched and watched the documentary about how they

878
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: survived this ordeal.

879
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that story. That's a good one page

880
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: turn I read. I read the book.

881
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 5: One other correction corrected about the weather does work.

882
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: For the FBI. He does work for the FBI.

883
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: Now I'm completely all in that they're just covering.

884
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Speaker 3: Thank you a shoke for for pointing that out. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it does work for the FBI, but didn't on this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't buying that. There's a rat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, eight five five past five hundred is the

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Speaker 1: ACE ticket hotline web radio at pages dot com. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do picks a little later at on the halftime

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Speaker 1: show or the show within his show. What are we

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Speaker 1: calling it?

892
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Speaker 5: Halftime show?

893
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think PU halftime show.

894
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Speaker 1: Okay, the PU halftime show. They're gonna be giving away

895
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Speaker 1: T shirts. He's gone, Yeah, they're gonna give away.

896
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Speaker 5: We did enough of you.

897
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Speaker 4: I think we have Evan probably get Paul's food. Yeah,

898
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Speaker 4: probably fetching it.

899
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Speaker 1: So he's got it. He needs a forklift.

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Speaker 5: This is what I get for buying them lunch.

901
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Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna bury your sandwich out.

902
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Speaker 5: I get for buying them.

903
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Speaker 1: I like that I made to Maryland. All right, let's

904
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Speaker 1: get to the phones. We'll go to Patty and Agawa

905
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Speaker 1: on what's up Patty? Everyone?

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Speaker 4: Hey Thursday.

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Speaker 11: So just a couple of quick questions because I know

908
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Speaker 11: you got picked, and let's just stay on a scale

909
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Speaker 11: of one to ten. How important does everyone think it

910
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Speaker 11: is to not only establish the run but run effectively

911
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Speaker 11: this game? And can the offensive line pull it off.

912
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Speaker 11: And my second question is for everyone, do you guys

913
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Speaker 11: think that Steve Belichick and Jarrott Mayo compared to where

914
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Speaker 11: they were when they first started in like twenty nineteen,

915
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Speaker 11: Like how much how much growth have you seen from

916
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Speaker 11: those two guys's defense of you know, play callers and

917
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Speaker 11: game planners. And that's all I got. I'll take it

918
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Speaker 11: off there.

919
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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks. That's so the first one. I'd say about

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Speaker 1: a six six, five or a six.

921
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it depends a little bit on

922
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Speaker 4: the weather.

923
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 7: I would I would put more importance on not letting

924
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Speaker 7: the Jets run than making the and then the Patriots running,

925
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Speaker 7: I would agree, Yeah.

926
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Speaker 4: Okay, I would agree with you.

927
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Speaker 1: And then growth of Mayo and Steve Belichick.

928
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Speaker 7: That's an interesting one. I'm going to try not to

929
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Speaker 7: get off on a tangent here. No, I mean I

930
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Speaker 7: think that there have been good things. I mean, I

931
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Speaker 7: think they've been kind of throwing everything at the wall

932
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Speaker 7: for a few years. I don't really, I mean, I

933
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Speaker 7: don't want to say this as a negative that I

934
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Speaker 7: haven't seen development. I just think they continue to do

935
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Speaker 7: what they do. The problem for me is just that

936
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Speaker 7: they can't get over the hump against the good teams

937
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Speaker 7: and it's like, oh they're defense. It's so multiple and

938
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Speaker 7: they throw so much at you and you never know

939
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Speaker 7: exactly well, it doesn't really seem that hard for the

940
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Speaker 7: good offenses to decipher it. And you know, I think

941
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Speaker 7: I think Steve had a real good game plan. I

942
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Speaker 7: thought they did real good job against the Eagles, you know,

943
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Speaker 7: as for how they they executed in that game. But

944
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Speaker 7: I'm just I'm like everybody, I'm waiting for these game

945
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Speaker 7: plans in this you know, amiba defense that has a

946
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Speaker 7: game plan defense to you know, be effective against the

947
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Speaker 7: good teams finally and close out the good team.

948
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Speaker 1: I think in today's NFL they're doing fine, like you know,

949
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Speaker 1: in terms of like comparing against other defenses and how

950
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Speaker 1: other defenses do against better offense. Better offenses just have

951
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Speaker 1: the advantage these days. You know, I think they're doing fine, like,

952
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Speaker 1: but like in terms of like you know, what their

953
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Speaker 1: growth has been. You know, we know that Steve calls

954
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Speaker 1: the plays, but other than that, like I don't know

955
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Speaker 1: who does what.

956
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Speaker 4: When it comes to the defense, because you judged like in.

957
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Speaker 1: Charge of personal groupings, like making sure the right group

958
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Speaker 1: gets out. But then I also heard that's Covington, you know,

959
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Speaker 1: So like I don't really know, like who's who does

960
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Speaker 1: what other than Steve calls the plays. Maybe you know Evan.

961
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Speaker 3: I just I'm not trying to like take a shot

962
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Speaker 3: at Steven Gerard. But it's all Bill. It's all Bill

963
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Speaker 3: for game plan, for game plan.

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Speaker 5: I think definitely the game plan. I think it's all

965
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Speaker 5: I think.

966
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Speaker 3: It's all Bill on defense from top to bottom. I

967
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Speaker 3: think the game plans are all Bill. I think the

968
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: stuff that they put in in the off season that's

969
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Speaker 3: new and different disappointing. Why is it disappointing because.

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Speaker 1: I would hope that at this point Steve and and

971
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Speaker 1: Gerard would have more input.

972
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they don't have input. I and

973
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Speaker 3: I do think one one thing I'll I'll say is,

974
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Speaker 3: you know, Gerard talked a lot about how much involved

975
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Speaker 3: he got into college scouting this offseason compared to other offseasons,

976
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Speaker 3: and how he really enjoyed watching the college game. And

977
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, some of the things that he

978
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Speaker 3: said that he enjoyed was watching how college teams defend

979
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Speaker 3: some of these new age elements, you know, RPOs, spread offenses,

980
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Speaker 3: you know, air raid concepts, and the Patriots so far

981
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Speaker 3: this year have had some different wrinkles that we haven't

982
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Speaker 3: necessarily seen against that type of stuff that maybe did

983
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Speaker 3: come from some of the college scouting and some of

984
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Speaker 3: the things that they looked at over the summer. So

985
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Speaker 3: I'll give them credit for that, But I think in general,

986
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Speaker 3: the structure of the defense and how they play defense

987
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: and want to play defense, and the mentality of the

988
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Speaker 3: defense like that, that all comes from the head coach.

989
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Speaker 4: I like that stuff.

990
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Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, like we brought up that

991
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Speaker 7: Bears game that those are the games too that kind

992
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Speaker 7: of stick in my crawl a little bit. The games

993
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 7: where you just like, what's going on? I mean in

994
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 7: a blender that's happened a couple of times. Those are

995
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Speaker 7: the games that and I mean even with TUA last week,

996
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 7: it's just like there's no surprises, like you know.

997
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 4: What they were going to do. You had all summer

998
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Speaker 4: to really figure out.

999
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Speaker 7: You knew they were coming up week two too, So

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Speaker 7: I don't know that those games occasionally where all of

1001
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 7: a sudden they look lost are are.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I really didn't.

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Speaker 1: We've always said that no matter what the subject, there's someone.

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Speaker 4: Where we go, let's go meteorologist.

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Speaker 1: Uh, this is Matt in southwest Florida. He's a hurricane expert. Nice.

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Speaker 1: Tropical cyclone is the remnants of a hurricane with winds

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Speaker 1: not high enough to be a tropical storm or hurricane.

1009
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Speaker 1: In other words, an average summer day down here and

1010
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Speaker 1: a major weather event.

1011
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got one.

1012
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: You're natural depending on location and severity. Worst cases, heavy

1013
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Speaker 1: rain and sustained winds for a day or two. And

1014
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Speaker 1: then he gives us a link to track it if

1015
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Speaker 1: we want.

1016
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Speaker 5: But if you get heavy rain and sustained winds, it

1017
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Speaker 5: will have an impact on that.

1018
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mostly the wind.

1019
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really going to be a factor. And you

1020
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Speaker 3: have to kick that fifty yard field goal to make

1021
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Speaker 3: it six y three?

1022
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Speaker 5: Right, but who's but who's kicking here?

1023
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Speaker 1: So we'll take a break. I'm gonna give some t

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Speaker 14: And we're back with the show within the show, which

1047
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Speaker 14: I've heard people want to call it the pu halftime Show.

1048
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: I like that too.

1049
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I like that a little bit of suggestions, but for now,

1050
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: it's still.

1051
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 14: The show within the show.

1052
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: Are you the Janet Jackson the PU halftime show.

1053
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Keep I guess so the top staying on.

1054
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Speaker 3: His nipples.

1055
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Speaker 14: I've joined by Mike d So and Evan Lazarre. Guys

1056
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 14: are gonna start with some trivia.

1057
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: Do not answer it. Oh, I'll just say if I

1058
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 4: know it or not.

1059
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Speaker 1: There we go.

1060
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Speaker 14: Question one? Who is who has the longest receiving touchdown

1061
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 14: in Patriots?

1062
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 15: Oh?

1063
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: I know that one. Easy, that's easy.

1064
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: I know that one.

1065
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 14: Money number two? Who was the offensive coordinator for the

1066
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Speaker 14: Patriots in.

1067
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and three?

1068
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Speaker 5: Also use your money.

1069
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Speaker 14: Number three, who was the Patriots owner that had plans

1070
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 14: to move the team to Saint Louis? All right, yeah,

1071
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 14: the original plans.

1072
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Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1073
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Speaker 14: Send your answers in the web radio at Patriots dot

1074
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 14: com to win an official Patriots Unfiltered T shirt. Guys,

1075
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 14: we're gonna continue off last week's conversation. We might keep

1076
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 14: doing this regularly throughout the season if I can't find

1077
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Speaker 14: any other fun topics, because it's just fun to talk rookies.

1078
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Speaker 1: Yep, rookies.

1079
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Speaker 14: Rookie roundup, not just Patriots players, but rookie performances that

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Speaker 14: stood out in Week two.

1081
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Speaker 1: Do as you want to get kicked off. Yeah.

1082
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Speaker 7: Well, I just like to say that I like this

1083
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 7: because you know, Evan and I were at the Combine

1084
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: and we saw all these guys. Everyone was at the

1085
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Speaker 7: Shrine Bowl too, watch plenty of the Senior Bowl, So

1086
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Speaker 7: you know, I think for both of us, we really

1087
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Speaker 7: enjoy the process. And now it's fun, of course watching

1088
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Speaker 7: some of the Patriots rookies, but it's also just, you know,

1089
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 7: interesting to see some of the guys that you know

1090
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 7: you might have liked or didn't like, and how they're

1091
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 7: kind of doing in the league. But I just, I know,

1092
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 7: I talked about Jon Robinson last week, and I'm gonna

1093
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 7: just bring them up again because I just I think

1094
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Speaker 7: they're building something in Atlanta, and I just he's one

1095
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Speaker 7: of those players that I feel like is just really

1096
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 7: fun to watch and makes you say, hey, this team's

1097
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Speaker 7: on the TV right now, I'm gonna throw them on.

1098
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Speaker 7: And it's not just him, you know, it's Kyle Pitts,

1099
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Speaker 7: it's Drake London. So I just every time I see

1100
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Speaker 7: Atlanta now never had really a reason to put them on,

1101
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Speaker 7: but I feel like when b Jon Robinson's on, it's

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00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 7: it's it's it's worth tuning in.

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00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 14: For and to go off that also, I know he's

1104
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 14: not rookie. Desmond Ridder didn't look that bad either, like

1105
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 14: he was serviceable. Yeah, and he plays all he plays

1106
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 14: well with Bijon.

1107
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: Hey, it's the net neutral quarterback.

1108
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: Right, I mean as much as they did it by

1109
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: picking in the top ten like three years in a row.

1110
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: They got him, Drake London, Kyle Pitts and Bjeon Robinson,

1111
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: and you make Desmond Ridder look like a serviceable quarterback.

1112
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: No offense to Desmond.

1113
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna go before I let Evan go off

1114
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 14: off the rails here, dude. I had this guy in

1115
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 14: our prospect review. Yeah, Marvin Mims junior Mimy, Yeah, he

1116
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 14: had from Oklahoma. He had one hundred and fifty all

1117
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 14: purpose yards and really he had me. I just want

1118
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 14: to make sure the rights that's are kind of crazy.

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00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 7: It was a ninety one point four receiving grade as

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00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 7: far as PFF two receptions for.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that tells you.

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00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 14: Nice drop mic along a sixty with a touchdown. I

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00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 14: mean that offense there is like you know, they have

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00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 14: some players in Denver. I think they lost receiver to

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00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 14: ACL I don't know if I'm completely accurate.

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00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, accord, Uh, Tim Patrick?

1127
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 14: Ya Patrick? Yeah, And so he kind of just went

1128
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 14: right in there. Automatic deep threat punt returner, can kind

1129
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 14: of do everything. So he's the guy who stands out

1130
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 14: to me from week two.

1131
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Those are two good ones. But

1132
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a Homer and I'm gonna I'm gonna

1133
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: stay right here in Foxborough, and I'm gonna give some

1134
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 3: flowers to Christian Gonzalez, who had a great We're not

1135
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: gonna do We'll go on to flowers the second Christian Gonzalez, though,

1136
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: I thought watching the film back, looking at all of

1137
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: his snaps against Tyreek Hill, it was more than just

1138
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: the interception. He had a great game against Tyreek Hill.

1139
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: And I don't think that was the plan necessarily going in,

1140
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: was for him to take ty Hill when Marcus Jones

1141
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: was healthy. I think that was probably more the plan.

1142
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: And yeah, and then Jalen Wattle maybe was the matchup

1143
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 3: for Gonzalez, but he ends up moving over to cover

1144
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: the Cheetah. Four catches for forty yards, right, or five

1145
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 3: for forty something like that for Tyreek Hill against Christian

1146
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: Gonzales and he I thought he was great in man coverage.

1147
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: I thought he played to his leverage. Well, I thought

1148
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: he ran all over the field with Tyreek Hill. And

1149
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: you talk about a guy and the Patriots don't have

1150
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: a ton of this, So it's so refreshing to see it.

1151
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: Just a pure athlete at six foot two, like a

1152
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: freak athlete that can run with Tyreek Hill, can outjump

1153
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill and still have some size to him as well.

1154
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: That's a rare breed and we all knew going into

1155
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: the draft, or I should say after the draft that

1156
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: it was ridiculous that he fell as far as he did.

1157
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: And the Patriots are just lucky, that's the only word that's.

1158
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 4: Smart for taking let me add in that I traded down.

1159
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 14: We've had some not great draft history recently, Like how

1160
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 14: nice that they have a first round pick that's just

1161
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 14: plug him right right in there.

1162
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 5: It just is.

1163
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 3: And not to like poo pooh after I just saying

1164
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: their praises for taking Chris chicken Zalez, But it goes

1165
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: to show that when you have a first round pick

1166
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: that's a real hit. It's obvious to everybody watching the

1167
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: games instantly, like that's what a first round pick that

1168
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: you hit on a great player, looks like like not

1169
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: some of these other guys that we've tried to talk

1170
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: ourselves into over the years.

1171
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 4: I got another one. I wanted to tap up Jayden

1172
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: Reid from Luke Packers. A couple of scores, right, a

1173
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: couple of scores.

1174
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 7: He was one of my favorites coming out this year

1175
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 7: as a you know, potential pick. I think he went

1176
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 7: a lot higher than I kind of thought he would.

1177
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 7: But you know, with Christian Watson out and to be honest,

1178
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 7: we were in Green Bay, wasn't all that like wow

1179
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 7: about him. You know, saw him make a couple of plays,

1180
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 7: but you know, nothing like oh God, why couldn't we

1181
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 7: have this guy? You know, not necessarily like that. Still,

1182
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's been okay, but I thought

1183
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 7: he had a nice week, didn't too much the first week,

1184
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 7: but then, as Evan said, bounce back with a couple

1185
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 7: of touchdowns there in Green Bay.

1186
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 4: So he starts to chip in a little bit.

1187
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: I got two.

1188
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 14: I'm gonna give a shout out to Puka. I'm gonna

1189
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 14: let Evan talk in the cor album because he's he's

1190
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 14: been balling out. But the guy who stands out to

1191
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 14: me before you know, he did the responsible thing and

1192
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 14: self diagnosed his concussion. Anthony Richardson was balling out. I

1193
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 14: think he's got to sort out how to protect himself

1194
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 14: a little bit better. That might just be kind of

1195
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 14: rookie like, oh, I'm invincible, because he's obviously bigger than

1196
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 14: everybody in college. But that's not how it is in

1197
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 14: the league. But he kind of took that game over

1198
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 14: and it was going pretty one side and until he

1199
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 14: got subbed out for Gardner with Minshew, so I gotta

1200
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 14: give a shout out to him. That's gonna be a

1201
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 14: fun game in Germany.

1202
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: By the way.

1203
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was great.

1204
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: Honestly, I've been really surprised, and in a good way

1205
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson throwing from the pocket and in structure.

1206
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: I thought he would be a great runner. I thought

1207
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 3: that they would have, you know, with with Stiken.

1208
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 5: Is that how you say his name?

1209
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 3: I always mess that up. I thought that they would

1210
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 3: have really good schemes involved with him, you know, like

1211
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: they did with Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia in terms of

1212
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: his legs. But I've been really impressed at how good

1213
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson has thrown the football this early in his career,

1214
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: he looks He looks a lot better in that sense

1215
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: than I think a lot of people thought he would.

1216
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Definitely.

1217
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 7: Just one other guy too, I wanted to say, maybe

1218
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 7: for other reasons, was Rashie Rice, who I kind of

1219
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 7: didn't really think was all that great, but you know,

1220
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 7: he's he's kind of coming on a little bit in

1221
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 7: Kansas City for Patrick Mahomes and probably not all that surprising.

1222
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 7: You could stick a receiver that you're not all that

1223
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 7: impressed with and with Patrick Mahomes and and suddenly he

1224
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 7: looks pretty good. But you know, I just thought he

1225
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 7: was real stiff and just you know, seem to have

1226
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 7: trouble to shake shaking guys. But it doesn't look like

1227
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 7: that is as much of a problem as I thought

1228
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 7: it would be for Rashi Rice.

1229
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: Like our guy.

1230
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: Pooka, huh yeah, Pooka.

1231
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 14: I mean he's the number one fantasy guy through two games,

1232
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 14: his twenty five catches for two hundred and sixty six

1233
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 14: yards on thirty five tard.

1234
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 7: It is just funny, and I'm not trying to like

1235
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 7: make a bigger point here about the Patriots, but it

1236
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 7: is just funny that there always are some star receivers

1237
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 7: that go later in the draft or even in his case, undrafted.

1238
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 7: And I don't think it's any way to build a

1239
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 7: team just in assuming that you're gonna hit on one

1240
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 7: of those guys. And that's happened for the Patriots in

1241
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,919
Speaker 7: the past, but it does always, you know, just seem

1242
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 7: to happen. You put so much time and effort into

1243
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 7: these things and in the draft process, and not just

1244
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 7: for the amateurs.

1245
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 4: I guess we're professionals though, are we professional draft and

1246
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: we're not really professional draft analysts, you know, I'd say

1247
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 4: the professionals are the scouts, But look, the scouts are

1248
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: wrong too, like you know, as wrong as like we

1249
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: could be on something doing like our study of it.

1250
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: The scouts are you know, have probably you know, I

1251
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 7: would hope a better hit rate, but it's not like

1252
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 7: they're like one hundred for one hundred on those things.

1253
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 14: It's crazy because you gotta get lucky sometimes because the rams,

1254
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 14: you know, shipped off all those picks and then boom

1255
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 14: you got Poop and Nakua and then once Cooper top

1256
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 14: gets it, you're all said, good. But guys, I think

1257
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 14: we're good for this day. Thank you for joining send

1258
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 14: those answers into web radio pageot dot com for an

1259
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 14: unfiltered T shirt And let's get back to the show.

1260
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Speaker 2: And now great moments in history.

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Speaker 16: People who have that talent are generally really good.

1262
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: You paid numbers.

1263
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 5: I read music?

1264
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: What I read the sheet music?

1265
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: So you read music?

1266
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 16: Do you think that helps you? Your musical knowledge helps

1267
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 16: you with your impressions? Because you clearly have a gift

1268
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 16: for that. Is it something how you can pick up

1269
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 16: on how everyone's inside?

1270
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: What are you laughing at over there?

1271
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 17: Well?

1272
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 5: I thought I did.

1273
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: I said, do you read music? Yeah? I said, because

1274
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I know you paint by number?

1275
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: I know I caught that.

1276
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 4: I ignored him.

1277
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 16: Fred, do you read music? Because you're good at impressions too,

1278
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 16: So you have that gift.

1279
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: I could play the harmonica by year there you go? Yeah,

1280
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: and by my mouth. Oh but that's another great moment

1281
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: from all right back here.

1282
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: You know, Fred was just a better time when we

1283
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: were just going to the AFC Championship game every year.

1284
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 5: We didn't have any of these real life issues to

1285
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 5: worry about.

1286
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: And we had a butt of all jokes. We did,

1287
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: only kidding the best wishes to Eric personally. Halftime show,

1288
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: they gave away some T shirt. They had some trivia.

1289
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: Who was the longest or who has the longest receiving

1290
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: touchdown in Patriots history?

1291
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 5: I got that.

1292
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 4: I know that Wes Welker one.

1293
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: Uh, Gavin in North Carolina had that. I think that's

1294
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: a five hundred yard game. Brady Correct, who was the

1295
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Patriots in two thousand and three.

1296
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 4: The same guy that blew us off at the combine.

1297
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: True he did, Charleslie Sharlly Wise. Winner is Paul in London,

1298
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: who claims he has a two thousand and eight Patriots

1299
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: PFW and Progress T shirt.

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 4: Wow, you guys made those?

1301
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's cool yea. And who was the Patriots

1302
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: owner who had plans to move the team to Saint

1303
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: Louis's James James, James Bush or wine. The winner was

1304
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Richard Corby. So good. Gave away some tech. Get rid

1305
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: of that T shirt stock because we need to print

1306
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: more right hoodies, hoodies. Let's get some hoodies a gray, black,

1307
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: or white.

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00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 4: I'd have to check the hoodie database for what the

1309
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: best record. Probably gray, no offense to our fans.

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00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 12: We should get an extra supply of two xls.

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00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: Oh sounds like you know something, but guess what seems

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Speaker 1: counter heights and tons of styles to choose from. You'll

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Speaker 1: score big when you shop at Bob's, the official furniture

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Speaker 1: store of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 4: So I wish you'd do those, as Dan shaughnessy. I

1319
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 4: think it'd be a little bit more, a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You got to score big with the Patriots.

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00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 18: Go to Bobs, you know, Bob Craft, Bob, Bob's Discount Furniture,

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00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 18: Bob's Discount Defense, Kevin Maloria, it's the Bubbs. It's the

1323
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Speaker 18: Bobbs Discount offense for the Patriots, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's a little mafia in there, steroids.

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's all right back here. Eight five five

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Speaker 1: Pats five hundred is the a Sticken outline web radio

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Speaker 1: at pages dot com. Let's go to the phones. We'll

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Speaker 1: go to Matthew in New Mexico. What's up, Matthew. Matthew

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00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: waits for an hour and then he doesn't met you. Yeah,

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00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: how about John and Louisiana A Hardy, Hardy and Todd

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Todd, what's up?

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Speaker 11: I was just curious if there was one thing that

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00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 11: could have been changed elevated, let's the one area could

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00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 11: have been elevated for the past two games.

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Speaker 15: What would it be?

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00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 19: It would have allowed us to possibly.

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Speaker 11: Win those games?

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00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 19: And what do you think needs to be elevated going

1339
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 19: into this game with the Jets.

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Speaker 11: That's all I got.

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 5: I mean offensive tackle very quick.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I realized with that noise is that

1343
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 7: like most young kids don't know what that noise is, right,

1344
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 7: nobody knows what a busy signal is?

1345
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: What you do? What did you grow up with a landline? Yeah?

1346
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 4: All right? Did you ever did you ever use a

1347
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: phone that was like rotary though?

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Speaker 5: No?

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: All right, there we found the dividing line.

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00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, did think about think about now how

1351
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: tedious that was? You know, I don't even know actually,

1352
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: when you had somebody with a lot of nines in there,

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00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know what that's like.

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00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: Phone call this person?

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00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: You would you know it had all the holes nine,

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: you'd have to go all the way here and wait

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Speaker 1: for it to go all the way back where you could.

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00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you asked me, like if you brought one

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00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: in and said, like, evan, call somebody.

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Speaker 5: On this, I'd be like, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 5: I can't sorry.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, got answering machines, and then then then it's

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Speaker 1: more to push button.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, answering machines. So those were kind of late,

1365
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Speaker 4: like not everybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I remember the answering machine because my grandmother used

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00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: to leave like twenty minute messages for my mom on

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: the answering machine and then she would play it when

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Speaker 3: we get home and just walk around the doing chores

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Speaker 3: around the house or whatever, and you just hear my

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Speaker 3: nana in the background.

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Speaker 5: Just funny. That's really, that's really funny, still talking. Your

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 5: mother would just go about her business and listen to.

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Speaker 3: The YEP and remind you they talked for like an

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Speaker 3: hour earlier in the day already.

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Speaker 4: That's I forgot one thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, like we got an answering machine, probably

1378
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Speaker 5: around the time that we got rid of the wall

1379
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 5: rotary phone to go to like the TOUCHTNE We got

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Speaker 5: an answering machine, and then pretty soon after that they

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Speaker 5: started doing the answering machine within like the you know,

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Speaker 5: the voicemail within the phone. Yeah, so you didn't have

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Speaker 5: to do that anymore.

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Speaker 7: That was like when Star six nine came out and

1385
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 7: all of a sudden they had all these little tricks

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Speaker 7: that you could do, like you could call if you

1387
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 7: got to hang up, you could call people back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is a good thing. They didn't have that

1389
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Speaker 5: when I were doing some prankin maybe guy, maybe your

1390
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Speaker 5: refrigerator run because.

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Speaker 1: Minute. But when they when they first came out with

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Speaker 1: that wasn't always this brash. When they first came out

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Speaker 1: with the Home Answering Machine, there was tapes there, actually

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Speaker 1: tapes the sets that you would.

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Speaker 5: You've reached the par I actually had one of those

1396
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: in my first apartment because there's just an old answer machine.

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 5: I didn't want to get all the bells and whistles

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Speaker 5: through at and t right, because I, you know, I'm

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01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 5: not a budget much like now right, and I did.

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Speaker 5: I had one of those little tapes on the answer

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Speaker 5: I like I do.

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Speaker 3: I do genuinely mean, it's like I envy growing up

1403
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 3: in that time because like once I had started, like

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: by the fifth grade, cell phones were a thing, like

1405
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: we you know, all these things like really started to

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: happen already for me right away, And like I never

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01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: got to live a life disconnected from a phone or

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Speaker 3: or you know, a computer.

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Speaker 5: Or I've never had a memorized numbers like.

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01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: Used to like the like get directions.

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: I would do like the we got directions because like

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Speaker 3: navigations came out, like maybe when I was in middle school,

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Speaker 3: like in car navigations because we didn't.

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Speaker 1: Have w we were driving. You never had to direction.

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Speaker 5: Map quest, print map quest.

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: I've done that, but I remember before that you had

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: to ask the guy at the gas station.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how.

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01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 5: I would never I would.

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how we got around and those maps.

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how you guys got around either. No,

1422
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: like just thinking about that, like how did you know where?

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 4: It's a great question.

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 5: I don't know it is. It is funny when I

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 5: started at the Herald.

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Speaker 4: You know, driving in that direction, and then you get

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Speaker 4: close and asked.

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Speaker 5: The late eighties through the nineties, and we all we

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01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 5: did was cover you know, we covered a million high

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01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 5: school sports. So I didn't know where all these high

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01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 5: schools were. But there was a huge file, you know,

1432
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Speaker 5: on the on the computer that you would just you

1433
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 5: would log in and then you'd say, I'm going to

1434
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 5: Oliver Eames High School. Search Oliver Raams. It would come

1435
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 5: up and you print out the directions right to Oliver Raams.

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 5: That's how you you did it. Yeah, I just like.

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Speaker 3: Think about all the time this For some reason, I

1438
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: think about this a lot. How did like how did

1439
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: Pete delivery drivers find my house?

1440
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 5: Like how like we would call.

1441
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 4: What is that book called? There's a book filled with maps.

1442
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting It's like it's not the Thomas It's like

1443
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 4: it's a Thomas guy.

1444
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: There's something.

1445
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: But when I was a runner and like we had

1446
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: to have that, Like I'm just.

1447
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: Like when we used to call in before navigation and

1448
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: before smartphones and used to say, oh, I live at

1449
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not gonna put my parents address on

1450
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 3: the air, but like you live at you know whatever

1451
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: and need them and they used to just miraculously find

1452
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 3: your house. Like that's why there's a delivery zone that

1453
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: you know the area.

1454
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 1: Back then the guys that were doing it were from

1455
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: the area. They knew, they knew Like.

1456
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: But I think I think I think Evan's right, Like

1457
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 5: they had to figure out they had to have.

1458
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: Something there was there was a time where cab drivers

1459
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: were from.

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Speaker 4: They just knew where they drive and they knew the roads.

1461
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 5: You know, good time.

1462
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: I think they'll call your thing though, is the fear

1463
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: of having to pick up a phone from a number

1464
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: that you got from a girl and call that number

1465
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 4: cold call. You don't know if her dad or is

1466
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 4: who's gonna pick up that? Like nervousness, like really going

1467
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: to Like now you just like you either swipe right,

1468
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 4: you send a message, you send a text message?

1469
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: Can you tell Mike to uh?

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Speaker 4: But that was I mean that's like those are like

1471
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 4: growing moments that now people don't even have to do

1472
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: because you get a little tech back and forth.

1473
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: Numbers like memory, like now you just you meet a

1474
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 5: girl and you're like, you know, can I get you?

1475
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 5: You know, you just put it right into your phone?

1476
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 5: How many you have it?

1477
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 7: How many numbers memory? How many you if you lost

1478
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 7: your phone right now? How many numbers would you know

1479
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 7: off the top.

1480
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 4: Of your head?

1481
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 5: John Cap three eight nine, two six one five, Wade

1482
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Speaker 5: bog Cecil Cooper two six one five. That's how I

1483
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: remembered numbers my all sports guys uniforms. That's how I

1484
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 5: did it I could give you, I mean, I could

1485
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 5: give you.

1486
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 4: Don't give us your ATM password? All right, my best

1487
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 4: friend Mark nine five one six.

1488
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: Next up? Next up is c J and k C.

1489
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: What's up? CJJ?

1490
01:03:58,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 4: Hey up guy, Hey c J.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 20: I wanted to ask you for a question about the

1492
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 20: game coming up this weekend. Is there you know anything

1493
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 20: that you think we can learn more about what this

1494
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 20: team's identity is going to be from the game this

1495
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 20: week or is it just going to be I don't know,

1496
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 20: just another wash.

1497
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 21: Up, especially if the defense is up scoring the last Well,

1498
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 21: you can play better or a good game, I mean,

1499
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 21: I think so.

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that whatever happens on Sunday to me

1501
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 5: is not sort of a definitive calling for the rest

1502
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 5: of the year. But you can play better than you've

1503
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 5: played and at least show that you're capable of playing

1504
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 5: sort of clean.

1505
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 4: Football, clean football exactly, you know, I mean.

1506
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 5: I hope, so, you know, would that be your identity?

1507
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 5: I would say, no, you played three games and you

1508
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 5: played one clean one, so I don't think that would

1509
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 5: necessarily establish it as an identity. But you can play

1510
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 5: better and feel good about it regardless of the opponent.

1511
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 7: I think you can continue to pull elements out to

1512
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 7: that are becoming your identity. Like you know, you're not

1513
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 7: going to have an identity three weeks end of the season.

1514
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 7: But you know, I wrote a little bit about the

1515
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 7: spike in two tight end numbers, you know, like last

1516
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 7: year like sixteen percent. They're up over you know, close

1517
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 7: to forty percent this year, so.

1518
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: You know that's increased. So I mean, I think each

1519
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 4: game you'll learn a little bit, but I hope you can.

1520
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to come out of this

1521
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 7: game being like, yeah, they won, but I mean that's

1522
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 7: that's the worst exactly.

1523
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 15: And that was kind of my point, is that I

1524
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 15: didn't want to.

1525
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 17: I didn't want to.

1526
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 20: I wanted to have some hope that we can actually

1527
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 20: feel good.

1528
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 4: It just depends on the outcome. You never know, you

1529
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: might have to do it, you know. I mean like

1530
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 4: it was like when they beat the Bills two years

1531
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 4: ago in the wind storm. It's like, you feel good

1532
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 4: about the two.

1533
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 5: Jets games last year, Yeah, you'll be happy, Like Fred's right,

1534
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 5: like you don't care. You just need to win. Yeah,

1535
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 5: And I get that, and that's bottom line. But if

1536
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 5: they beat them the way they beat them the two

1537
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 5: times last year. You're not gonna feel great. Yeah, you're

1538
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 5: gonna be happy that they won and you're gonna be

1539
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: one and two that's better than O one three, But

1540
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 5: you're gonna know the other team handed it to you.

1541
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I still feel though, like you just need

1542
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 7: to win. And but it's gonna be hard. It's gonna

1543
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 7: be hard to just be You're gonna be great. They

1544
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 7: got the win, and you're gonna immediately turn the page

1545
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 7: into Now this is what they have to fix from

1546
01:05:59,440 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 7: that game too.

1547
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's like you got to get the win

1548
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 4: and check it off. But I don't think it's like, oh,

1549
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: we feel.

1550
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 7: Great now everything's turned around. I mean, I don't know

1551
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 7: that's that's the outcome. It's hard to see that everything

1552
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 7: is now. We're on track. Now it's really gonna happen,

1553
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 7: you know, unless they like hang a fifty burger on them,

1554
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 7: which I'm not expecting.

1555
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 5: Even then, I'm not You have to see how it

1556
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 5: all unfolds.

1557
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 4: Mac bombs away every play.

1558
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: Thanks a j uh. This femail bothers me. Neil and

1559
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: new Bruns Red not about cyclones. It's not hard, folks.

1560
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: It's a tropical storm, which is weaker version of a

1561
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: hurricane hurricane spin. So yeah, okay, So then why do

1562
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: they call them tropical storms instead of cyclones. I've never

1563
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: heard any weatherman up here refer to a tropical storm

1564
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: as a cyclone. Okay, so it must be a little

1565
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: bit different.

1566
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 4: That's like that guy from the Simpsons, you know, the

1567
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 4: one with the ponytails.

1568
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: It's not that hard.

1569
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 4: What's his name? Man?

1570
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: I get all right, Let's go to Sean and Orlando.

1571
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: What's up Sean?

1572
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 15: Okay, thank you, I'd like to Okay. Brady on culture,

1573
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 15: Tom Brady said, this is an interview. Said all this

1574
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 15: in an interview with the ESPN in twenty twenty two. The

1575
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 15: coach can have rules, but it's the players who have

1576
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 15: to expect more than the coaches that creates the culture.

1577
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 15: If the players expect to be great, then they're going

1578
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 15: to do the things that it takes to be great.

1579
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 15: They're going to prepare the right way, they're going to

1580
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 15: compete the right way. They're going to hold each other accountable.

1581
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 15: That's what creates the winning culture. So Belichick may have

1582
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 15: set the tone, but it was Brady who drove a

1583
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 15: culture that took on his personality that became famous for

1584
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 15: attention to the detail and to the execution, and mag

1585
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 15: Jones was Belichick's one chance to regain that culture, rather

1586
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 15: than cultivate it. He has screwed him at every turn,

1587
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 15: first with Patricia and this year with the Lion and

1588
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 15: the receiver problems. And it seems that everybody not named

1589
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 15: Belichick could see the stupidity of all that. But everybody's

1590
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 15: overlooking the real problem. Craft has lost his fire. He's

1591
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 15: tolerated four years of mediocrity. The Patriots used to be

1592
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 15: known for letting people go a year too early rather

1593
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 15: than a year too late. They're paying the price for

1594
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 15: not applying that to the GM. Thanks for taking my call,

1595
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 15: all right, Sean.

1596
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: All right, thanks for the call. In all seriousness, I

1597
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 5: don't agree with all of it, but that's a strong call.

1598
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I would just I would lump in Willie

1599
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 7: McGuinness and you know, some of those other guys.

1600
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: I think that helped establish the culture.

1601
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: Like Brady's attention to detail, his drive and practice, you know,

1602
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 1: like practices. He may practices a game in a competitive way.

1603
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 5: But I don't think drive and commitment are problems for

1604
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 5: mac Jones. I don't know. I think that, well, he's

1605
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 5: saying it. Saying it Bill, Well, he's putting people that.

1606
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 5: This is one of the ones that I sort of

1607
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 5: take issue with. Yeah, you know, it's all on the coach.

1608
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 5: Like I can tell you, there's many rosters that Brady

1609
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 5: dealt with that were less than this offensive line and

1610
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 5: less than this group of receivers, and it didn't fall

1611
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 5: apart like this. Now, they may not have been championship

1612
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 5: that year, you know, oh six comes to mind. They

1613
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 5: may have fallen short that year because they let all

1614
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 5: the receivers go and they didn't have enough to replace it.

1615
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 5: But it didn't look like this. Yeah, you know, so

1616
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 5: I think part of it is on both ends. And

1617
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 5: he's right, like this, the Patricia thing ridiculous. Sean's right

1618
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 5: about that. It was a ridiculous call that we all

1619
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 5: saw before it happened except me, And I still give

1620
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 5: you a pass for it, and I don't give you

1621
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 5: a pass on everything.

1622
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: As you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest.

1623
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 5: I thought it being a stand up guy, but I

1624
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 5: don't really think you were all that confident.

1625
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 1: I honestly thought it could work. I was wrong.

1626
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 5: Well, to your point. I think Bill thought it could

1627
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 5: work too, and I think Bill would still have it

1628
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 5: trying to work it.

1629
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I jumped ship, you know, three quarters the

1630
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: way through, but I thought it could work.

1631
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 5: But I just don't think.

1632
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: But there is something like the locker room culture is important.

1633
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: That's why when Parcels got here, when Belichick got here,

1634
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: they brought in their circle the wagon guys, the guys

1635
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: that they know could be their messengers.

1636
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 4: You know, Baby Hamilton.

1637
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all those guys, and they could be

1638
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: the guys that would carry the message of the head

1639
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: coach down to the players. And you know, Belichick was

1640
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: very fortunate because the best player on the team was

1641
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: his messenger.

1642
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: You know.

1643
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: That's why when if for the first half of the dynasty,

1644
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,440
Speaker 1: those two were simpatico, they were on the same page,

1645
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of work and you know, be

1646
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: demanding of the other players. Belichick was very fortunate that

1647
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: he had the best player in his team lockstep with him. Yeah.

1648
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: Think's changed. Things changed later when when Brady said, you

1649
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: know what, I'm.

1650
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 5: I'm tired of getting treated a little bit more now,

1651
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 5: you know, I think I've earned it.

1652
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think and I think Mac he's

1653
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 7: just missing the results, you know, I think the results

1654
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 7: were there then his hard work, would you know, ring more,

1655
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 7: you know. I mean I don't want to speak to

1656
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 7: because I don't know how players are. But everybody that

1657
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 7: talks about him, you know, especially the counor Henry recently,

1658
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 7: is just you know, loves him, loves the kid. It's

1659
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 7: just he doesn't have that kind of gravitas to him

1660
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 7: because he hasn't won big game.

1661
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: Yet, I know.

1662
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest difference is the track record.

1663
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that that it's a conscious thing

1664
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 5: that people like looking at him saying like not listening

1665
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: to him when he first what's he ever done? But

1666
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 5: I do think you circle the wagon guys now, fred

1667
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 5: as you you know, you move further and further, you know,

1668
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 5: away from from the success, and you're starting to see

1669
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 5: like some of these guys that he sort of Bill

1670
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 5: is sort of identified in building around. You know, mccordy's gone,

1671
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 5: now Slater's you know, probably if this isn't it, it's close.

1672
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 5: He's kind of having to buy those guys, you know,

1673
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 5: like let's let's give a little more to Matthew judon him.

1674
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 5: Maybe he's a bigger voice in the locker room with

1675
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 5: his message that he had after the game the other day.

1676
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 5: And I you know, I don't think that's the best

1677
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 5: way to do it. You know, it's better when you

1678
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 5: have it the way Fred explained it, when you just

1679
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 5: have those guys sort of inherently already understanding what your

1680
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 5: message is. And it seems like, you know, Bill's who

1681
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 5: would you say Bill's guys are guys like Devonte Parker,

1682
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 5: which it certainly seems like, you know, he brings, he

1683
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 5: trades and now gives him more money. Bentley's a good

1684
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 5: example though. I think Bentley would be a good example

1685
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 5: of the like he would to me extrapolate toward, you know,

1686
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 5: the way the Bruce Ki's in the beginnings and the

1687
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 5: Rabels were. I think he plays like that Bentley. Not

1688
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 5: talent wise, I'm saying the way he goes about his business.

1689
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you know, gotcha. Before last

1690
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: year you might have said David Andrews, But I think

1691
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: all the guys on offense lost a little bit of trust.

1692
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: He alienated some people from last year and a.

1693
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 7: Point, the further you get away, I mean, it's easy

1694
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 7: when you're going to AFC Championships and Super Bowls all

1695
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 7: the time, and new players are just kind of being

1696
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 7: put into the system and now they have that experience too,

1697
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 7: and now you know when this guy speaks, you know,

1698
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 7: David Andrews a guy they've already won four Super Bowls,

1699
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 7: and he arrives but you know he still now has

1700
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 7: won two and has some gravitas to him. But as

1701
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 7: you get into season four, season five, away from it,

1702
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 7: you don't have those same guys. You don't have the

1703
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 7: same kind of you know, weight in the locker room

1704
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 7: of somebody saying, you know, of course everyone knows who

1705
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 7: Matthew Slater is, but you know, go back to I

1706
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 7: think the point I made on Tuesday of just you know,

1707
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 7: at what point is Matthew Slater just kind of like,

1708
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 7: you know, we've been doing this for five years. I've

1709
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 7: been giving the same speech every other week when we

1710
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 7: lose a game about we have to decide whether we're

1711
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 7: going to go down fighting or if we're gonna you know,

1712
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 7: just allow this to happen. And I mean, I'm sure

1713
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 7: he's getting sick of it.

1714
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan in Michigan and Virginia.

1715
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 17: What's up, hey, Freid. You guys are having a terrific

1716
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 17: show today. Mark's coming about the football tree and yours

1717
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 17: in into Paul about knitting a forklift for his lunch

1718
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 17: and impressions of five pitch teenage deuce calling prospective girlfriends

1719
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 17: that have me laugh now.

1720
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: Loud, checking out like Paul.

1721
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 17: But with the prediction for the cyclone this weekend, which,

1722
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 17: by the way, I always thought the only difference between

1723
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 17: cyclone and hurricane was that ones used in the northern

1724
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 17: hemisphere and ones used in the southern hemisphere. We always

1725
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,520
Speaker 17: had cyclones in Australia, not the hurricanes.

1726
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 5: Butwick okay, so I'm way off on that. Then I

1727
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 5: thought it was the strength of it.

1728
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 17: But the weather prediction has me concerned because if there

1729
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 17: is a lot of rain, it really puts the game

1730
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 17: on the on the running game and on the O line.

1731
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 17: And last week's game with all the screen passes was maddening.

1732
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 17: It doesn't work unless you have James White bog Lewis

1733
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 17: coming out at the backfield and just really sort of

1734
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 17: spoke to the concerns that they have with the limitations

1735
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 17: that they have with the O line. So if we

1736
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 17: do get the storm in New York. Who does it

1737
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 17: give the advantage to the Jets or the the Patriots.

1738
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: I think the Jets.

1739
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 4: I think the Jets.

1740
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, better defense, yeah, probably better two backs. Yeah,

1741
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: and it evens out the offenses, you know.

1742
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1743
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 17: I just thinking that their on line, their online is

1744
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 17: in better shape, and they've got a couple of.

1745
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 5: Yea zero line has been the worst in football so far.

1746
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I know it's a small sample size. Mike

1747
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 5: said that at the begining of the show about these

1748
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 5: you know, these two week windows, but yeah, I mean,

1749
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,799
Speaker 5: you know, according to the metrics, they are the worst

1750
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 5: offensive line in football. Now, that had a lot to

1751
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 5: do with the fact that they played Dallas.

1752
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 17: Yeah, but yeah, Buffalo, all right, the Patriots are line.

1753
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: Ye. All right, thanks for the call, appreciate it. We'll

1754
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: go up to New York, Dominie. What's up?

1755
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing all right? Hey, Dommy good.

1756
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1757
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 22: I gotta appreciate the discussion with the map quest. I

1758
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 22: used to do that in middle school with my dad,

1759
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 22: would up the ball game, and honestly, one of my

1760
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 22: tests is like you not telling her before you're coming

1761
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 22: up on an exit. You're not selling, Like how soon

1762
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 22: it's coming up. So usually I have friends even with

1763
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 22: their phones. Now they might tell me too late, I

1764
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 22: missed the exit. I'm not getting given enough time to

1765
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 22: like change into the lane. So you know, I think,

1766
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 22: you know, growing up with the map court there makes

1767
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 22: you a little bit more particular about your direction or not.

1768
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,879
Speaker 5: But locally, we had someone using the GPS that killed themselves.

1769
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 5: They listened to the GPS and drove into the water.

1770
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 5: Did you see that story?

1771
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 4: Really?

1772
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear those.

1773
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 5: Beth and I immediately looked at each other and said,

1774
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 5: we could see we'll doing that.

1775
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 4: But it takes a right into a cornfield, you know,

1776
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 4: keep going straight, honey, I don't know, just driving to

1777
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 4: the water, right.

1778
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 22: I think it's good to like know your your map locally.

1779
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 22: I think that's you vantished to. Everybody knows the backstreets

1780
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 22: and they kind of know like the quick Grouse. My

1781
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 22: mom knows all the pick Grosse Tee, you know, live

1782
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 22: randof be able to get wherever she needs to go

1783
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 22: without taking highways. Yeah, so you know, used to living

1784
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 22: in that area.

1785
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 11: That's a plus.

1786
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 22: But yeah, just you know, quick thoughts again just on

1787
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 22: the Patriot So I know we've talked a lot about

1788
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 22: their off friends of launch struggles, and that's a part

1789
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 22: of it. But you know, at the end of the day,

1790
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 22: every team is going to go through their injury buck

1791
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 22: especially with the offensive line. It always seems like that's

1792
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 22: going to be in and out at the end of

1793
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 22: the day. If we don't have a playmaker, if we

1794
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 22: don't have someone that you know can really you can

1795
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 22: throw the ball up to them, get you know, we

1796
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 22: get a completion, get some yarders. It's just not really

1797
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 22: gonna matter even if I think of we're healthy, because

1798
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 22: if we have to be that perfect out only in

1799
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 22: terms of execution, but health, it's.

1800
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 15: Never going to work.

1801
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 22: We don't have a Justin Jefferson or a Jamar Chase

1802
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 22: or a Tyreek Kill or someone you know, EASi lead

1803
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 22: quarterbacks can throw to. So you know, unless it's all perfect,

1804
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 22: which it will never be, it's just going to be

1805
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 22: the same thing over and over. So I mean hoping

1806
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 22: for the best, but at this point kind of seeing

1807
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 22: how things are going, kind of getting a sense of

1808
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 22: what might happen, you know, you know, caustiously optimistic, but

1809
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 22: realistic as well, so you know, go okay street to

1810
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 22: see what happens.

1811
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 15: Desperate.

1812
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Dominique. One more call and then we'll get

1813
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: back to Evan, who's just back from practice. AJ's in

1814
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. What's up? Aj?

1815
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 5: What keeps?

1816
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 4: Say?

1817
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 19: Hi to my eight month old son here?

1818
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: He congratulations?

1819
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: Hi?

1820
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1821
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 19: Yeah yeah. So I I I'm just as frustrated with

1822
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 19: the offense as everybody else, I think, but I'm trying

1823
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 19: to find a little bit of optimism here, and I

1824
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 19: just feel like with the offensive line in particular, they

1825
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 19: they've gotten off to a slow start. They got some

1826
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 19: guys that have only played their first game now, and

1827
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 19: you know, maybe they can get their feet under them

1828
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 19: a little bit more. That could help the passing game.

1829
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 19: That's one reason to maybe be optimistic. You know, some

1830
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 19: more continuity on the offensive line, maybe they can gel

1831
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 19: a little bit here. And then, you know, another thing

1832
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 19: I've been encouraged by is just seeing Kendrick Bourne get

1833
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 19: more involved in the offense again from last year, looking

1834
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 19: at little bit more like you did the year before.

1835
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 19: I know, Pop Douglas, right, we are all not happy

1836
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 19: with what happened last game, but you know, that was

1837
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 19: just one game. I don't think he's going to be

1838
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 19: sitting out a whole lot, especially if he shows what

1839
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 19: he can do. And you know, a lot of people

1840
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 19: probably don't want to hear it, but Taekwon Thornton, Right,

1841
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 19: he's a fast guy, and I feel like, you know,

1842
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 19: I don't have a whole lot of patients left to

1843
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 19: see him show something, but you know, maybe maybe we

1844
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 19: could see something from him when he comes back.

1845
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: I hope.

1846
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 19: So then the defense looks a little bit better, like

1847
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 19: it might be able to hold you, you know, closer

1848
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 19: in some of these games against the good teams. Yeah

1849
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 19: than it was able to last year.

1850
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: Let's hope they reverse the trend and actually get better

1851
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: as the season goes along.

1852
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1853
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I think the offensive line is a good

1854
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 7: place to start, you know. I mean, at least with

1855
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 7: Trent Brown, and you know, he's got a little more money,

1856
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 7: so maybe.

1857
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 4: It'd be a little bit more engaged, ready to.

1858
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 7: Go and get the running game going. I mean, those

1859
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 7: are my two areas of focus on that. Try to

1860
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 7: get that stuff going and see what happens.

1861
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: All right, I have some optimism from the offense.

1862
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: Right, I think Evan is back.

1863
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 10: Evan has returned practice, Evan has returned, has returned.

1864
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 1: There, all right, Evan, you were back fairly quickly, so shocker.

1865
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Well day two of Patriots practice this week,

1866
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 3: and the new development is that city so is a

1867
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: no so.

1868
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 4: Not there show.

1869
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 5: So you had that, say it, say it?

1870
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 4: So what are you saying?

1871
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 5: I might just go sell your britches? So if we

1872
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 5: give him to a million incentives, you think we'll be

1873
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 5: back at practice tomorrow. So I don't know why does

1874
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 5: he Why does he do that all the time? Why

1875
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 5: is Paul always doing so? Yeah?

1876
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 4: No, no, he was not still on the injury report

1877
01:20:58,800 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 4: with concussion there.

1878
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, he was on the injury port yesterday. Is

1879
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 3: limited with the concussion. Yeah, maybe it didn't go so hot.

1880
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be unfortunate because the head injuries are scary.

1881
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 4: Yep, seriousness.

1882
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 3: No, Marcus Jones again, okay, shoulder injury on the injury

1883
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 3: report and Devon God shot after the baby.

1884
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 4: Back today, So good.

1885
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 5: I think that.

1886
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 3: Uh Marcus Jones, I I wonder if that's gonna be

1887
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: an ir situation.

1888
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 4: What was his injury issue last year as a rookie

1889
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 4: that held him out? Was that a shoulder as well?

1890
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 3: So he had off season shoulder surgery on both shoulders

1891
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 3: you're right, and uh, when he entered the league, but

1892
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if that if it was, who knows

1893
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: how he injured.

1894
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 4: It's probably one of the same shoulders though.

1895
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 3: Well you got a chance at it, Mike with the jokes. Yep.

1896
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 3: So that's that's the practice, that.

1897
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 4: Process of elimination.

1898
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, the concussion. I thought that was interesting yesterday when

1899
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 5: and so we're both included as being limited concussion And

1900
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's, you know, strictly following the

1901
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 5: procedure or if they're still dealing with you.

1902
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:16,480
Speaker 4: Thought it would be like they'd been limited with funds funds.

1903
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I thought, listen, I gave you, I

1904
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 5: gave you my joke that was that was a one

1905
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 5: time thing.

1906
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 4: But in all.

1907
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 5: Seriousness, I figured if they're back on the practice field,

1908
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 5: they had to have cleared protocol, right, so there's a

1909
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 5: ramp up. Yeah, that's why I was out. That's exactly

1910
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 5: what visit a procedure where you have to do it

1911
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 5: on a limited basis and then yes, tomorrow you find out.

1912
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 5: So to that point, assuming that this is nothing like

1913
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 5: personal related with so maybe he's sick or something, who knows,

1914
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 5: But if it's related to the concussion, then maybe it's

1915
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 5: whatever said it didn't go well yesterday.

1916
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, I don't remember the

1917
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: exact procedure, but there is like a steps to clearance procedure,

1918
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 3: and one of them is like, okay, like you can

1919
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 3: you know, go run on a treadmill or something like that,

1920
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 3: or if you do feel any symptoms, no, okay, Then

1921
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 3: the next step is all right, let's go through a

1922
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 3: portion of practice and then you don't and then you

1923
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 3: and then contact right so then you ramp it back

1924
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 3: up slowly from there. So my guess as yesterday they

1925
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 3: went through the next phase of the protocol, and there's

1926
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: a chance, at least I hate speculating, but there's a

1927
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 3: chance that CITISO didn't pass the next step.

1928
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think it's the biggest deal in

1929
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 7: the world. I mean, I think right tackle right now

1930
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 7: is just a huge question mark, and I really don't

1931
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 7: know how that plays out, Like where to even start

1932
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 7: this week, Like do you put Anderson back in there

1933
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 7: and let him kind of give it a go.

1934
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 4: Do you give viderian lo a.

1935
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 7: Chance over on that side? I mean, those probably are

1936
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 7: the two options before you go.

1937
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 5: I actually thought nuclear with him.

1938
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 3: Viderian Lowe was okay in the game on Sunday night

1939
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 3: until late when Bradley Chubb got him a few times

1940
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 3: and then got him on the sack. But on the

1941
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 3: whole I thought he was better than Calvin Anderson was

1942
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: on the other side. So I do wonder if maybe

1943
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: they give Vederian low a look at practice at right

1944
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 3: tackle this week. And I think a lot of people

1945
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 3: was so are hoping, well, if he develops that guard,

1946
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 3: then maybe you can kick on Wenn who back out

1947
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: to right tackle, or if it's Mafi at right guard,

1948
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: and then on when or whatever the case may be.

1949
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 3: But with Vederian Lowe, I was given the circumstances of

1950
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 3: him being a back.

1951
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was terrible. Maybe it's because the

1952
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 5: bar is lower, you know, with a guy who's never

1953
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 5: really played, so you know, you know, what, what do

1954
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 5: you expect?

1955
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:25,799
Speaker 4: You know, one of those kind of deals.

1956
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think.

1957
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: I didn't think at the very least he wasn't losing immediately, yeah,

1958
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: and so like he was making them work for it.

1959
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you get clouded. And I'm as guilty

1960
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 5: as this as anybody when you watch and you see

1961
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 5: people like throwing the clips out, you know, and that's

1962
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 5: that one clip that everybody's putting out of Calvin Anderson

1963
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 5: on the Running Play where it's.

1964
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 4: Just like, I have no idea what he was doing.

1965
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: I have a theory on that. That's like an assignment issue, right,

1966
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 3: Like it's not like.

1967
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 9: He didn't fail to block somebody, right, But I think

1968
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 9: it goes around Twitter and people make it out to

1969
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 9: be like bigger.

1970
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 3: Than it actually is. And I would agree with if

1971
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 3: you watch the clip, Uh, you know, Anderson and Pharaoh

1972
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,919
Speaker 3: Brown both pull, and my guess is one was supposed

1973
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: to pin and one was supposed to pull, and they

1974
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 3: both thought they were pulling and nobody pinned. And that's

1975
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 3: how you have Javon Holland run through. So the question

1976
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: that's that's easily correctable, like that will be a two

1977
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: seconds little and pull concept.

1978
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 4: You don't both pull.

1979
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 7: There's no pin, we need a pin, You don't pull

1980
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 7: the pin.

1981
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1982
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 3: Adrian clemm okay had on there for a second.

1983
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Coach this one. This one's a little bit of different

1984
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,679
Speaker 1: take than what we've had. Trevor says, I was able

1985
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 1: to attend the Dolphins game for my first visit Gillette. Sucks,

1986
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: we lost, but love the environment. I just wanted to

1987
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: say I was on board with Benching Douglas. I know

1988
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't at practice and training camp. For what I've seen,

1989
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 1: there was way too much hype around him. I'm hopeful

1990
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: he can be a good player, but I think everybody's

1991
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: expectations were too high, and now that a sixth round

1992
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 1: rookie made a mistake, everyone is up at arms because

1993
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: of the the expectations set for him.

1994
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 5: Okay, so I totally respect the other side of this story,

1995
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 5: but not for that reason necessarily, like it shouldn't have

1996
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 5: anything to do with any hype. It was he got

1997
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 5: the ball in his hand twice and made a play

1998
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 5: both times in the first two series of the game.

1999
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 5: That's why people are upset, not because he had a

2000
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 5: good training camp. Yeah, like Booty didn't really have a

2001
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 5: great training camp. He came on, you know, toward the end,

2002
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 5: I thought, But I think people also wanted to see

2003
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 5: Booty heading into the first game, right, and he didn't

2004
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 5: have a great camp. But then the game came and

2005
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 5: they threw the ball to him four times. He didn't

2006
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 5: have any catches and no one was sitting there saying,

2007
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 5: how can you bench Booty because he didn't play well

2008
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 5: against the Eagles, But against the Eagles in Miami, in

2009
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 5: limited reps, I thought Douglas did look like he had

2010
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 5: a chance to give a spark. And that's why I mean,

2011
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 5: I speaking for myself, that's why I was disappointed that

2012
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 5: he didn't get another opportunity on offense. Not because of

2013
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 5: the hype that he got, because you guys know me

2014
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 5: on the hype, I don't really know. I mean, the

2015
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 5: cutback was the cutback itself, Like, forget about the fumble

2016
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 5: for a second. The route in the cutback was as

2017
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 5: dynamic of a five seconds I've seen from the Patriots

2018
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 5: offense in two games. Like he ran away from the

2019
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 5: defender in man coverage, dusted him at the line of scrimmage,

2020
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 5: then cut back and then got into the open field

2021
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 5: and then Bradley Chubb really made like a fantastic.

2022
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 4: Really good play. Yeah. But the only thing my only caveat.

2023
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 5: That I you know, would fully leave open because we're

2024
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 5: not at practice, Evans, this is like three or four practices.

2025
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 4: No wrong.

2026
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 5: Now Evan's coming back and he's telling you how quickly.

2027
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 5: We're ushered out right. They're not even into the like

2028
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 5: drills yet when you're getting on right after stretching right. Yep.

2029
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 5: Maybe he's dropping the ball once every practice, do you

2030
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And I don't know that because

2031
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 5: we're not at practice. If he's having problems on a

2032
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 5: consistent basis in practice and then he goes out in

2033
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 5: the game and he's had the ball in his hand

2034
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 5: five or six times and he's fumbling once, I could

2035
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 5: understand Bill saying, you know what, his kid's not ready

2036
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 5: to protect the ball in a game. We got to

2037
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 5: sit them. I'll totally not not that Bill needs my okay,

2038
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 5: but you know, I totally understand that I don't have

2039
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 5: all the information. That's the argument you can make.

2040
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: It could be and and but the only reason why

2041
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 1: we take the other side is because we've seen it

2042
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: so many times with rookies who fumble and they get

2043
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: put on the bench. But could all of them have

2044
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: trouble in practice?

2045
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2046
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: I guess they all could.

2047
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I know with Stevenson in his rookie year,

2048
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 5: they were upset with him because they didn't feel like

2049
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 5: he was ready to play. They they called his professionalism

2050
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 5: into question early early on in his career, and now,

2051
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 5: to his credit, I don't think anybody would call his

2052
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 5: professionalism into question anymore.

2053
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Ever, he came in out of shape failed a conditioning

2054
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: test as a rookie.

2055
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to Connor down the street in Foxborough. What's up, Connor? Connor?

2056
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 5: Wow?

2057
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 4: Connor?

2058
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: Okay?

2059
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 5: Connor from Fox.

2060
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Take one more email, Donnie and Pittsburgh. There are no

2061
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 1: exceptions and no excuses. This has to be a get

2062
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: right week for the offense. I know the Jets are

2063
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 1: seen as a solid defense, but this will be the

2064
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: first game we play with the better quarterback on paper.

2065
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Mac must assert himself and improve his offensive unit compared

2066
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: to the two last weeks. I brought up the box

2067
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: score when I called Tuesday three and oh for the

2068
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: first three quarters is unacceptable. As a fan, I won't

2069
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: be satisfied with a thirteen to ten or similar score

2070
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: to last season. I need to see at least three

2071
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns by the offense, preferably one in every quarter. Is

2072
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: that an unfair expectation? Well, if there's a cycle, I.

2073
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 4: Got to ask the tropical cyclone about that.

2074
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 5: One or the Jets defense. Well, I mean I don't

2075
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 5: think three touchdowns is out of the ordinary. That's what

2076
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 5: they do. Three scores. It was seventeen this week it

2077
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 5: was twenty one. I mean twenty because they missed an

2078
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 5: extra point the week before. We went for two, right, Yeah,

2079
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 5: and they didn't get it. But like, I don't think

2080
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 5: that's out of the realm. Three touchdowns. I don't think

2081
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 5: you're asking for. That's what they've done. They've scored three

2082
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 5: times in both games. I just I don't understand what

2083
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 5: difference does it make who the other quarterback is, Like,

2084
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 5: why they Why is more expected of the offense in

2085
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 5: this game? Because because they have the teams quarterback isn't good.

2086
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean i'd say the defense, like you gotta

2087
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 7: get after him. You got to force them in the mistakes.

2088
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 7: That's the thing with Zach Wilson for me, But I

2089
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 7: mean for Mac, it's it's about that Jets defense.

2090
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if the if the offense can do well

2091
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: this week, it's a big uplift because you did it

2092
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: against one of the league's best defenses.

2093
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 5: That's a great I'm sure Dallas feels better about their

2094
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 5: offense this week than they did the first one, right,

2095
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 5: because they did it against a good defense and they

2096
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 5: performed better.

2097
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, it's that time of the week. What

2098
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: happened last week?

2099
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 4: Well, we're putting last week behind us.

2100
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: Oh not a good wak. I know I was perfect

2101
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: and then things went sideways.

2102
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: I think I think, yeah, I think I was really

2103
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 4: bad with the spreads this week. Yeah. Fred continues to

2104
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 4: perform well.

2105
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 5: Just trying to get my glasses ready here, hold please,

2106
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 5: I can't see so good? Ud you sweater on too?

2107
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: Hello?

2108
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 5: Children, leave grandpa, Hello friends. Freddy eleven and five, tied

2109
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 5: with Evan.

2110
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 4: At eleven and five.

2111
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a lot better than so good. Solid week

2112
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 5: week two for you guys. Mike ten and six, good

2113
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 5: for you, bad Alex nine and seven and Paul wow

2114
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 5: wow seven and nine.

2115
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 3: What what happened to the field of the league.

2116
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 5: Oh, he has the feel for the league. So with

2117
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:56,280
Speaker 5: the spread, Yeah, this is ugly. Evan ten five and one. Nice,

2118
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,719
Speaker 5: that's good, followed by Fred who continues his strong start

2119
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 5: nine six and one. Then Alex six nine and one,

2120
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 5: five ten and one, and Paul three twelve and one.

2121
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: Twelve. That's a hole that you're going to have trouble getting.

2122
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 9: Worry, boy, we got a lot of weeks football and

2123
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 9: then move on.

2124
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 5: So I did kind of think to myself, there's no

2125
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 5: way I'm following up that last week, but I mean

2126
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 5: last year. So overall, here we go Freddy twenty three

2127
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 5: and nine, Mike and Evan twenty and twelve, Alex and

2128
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 5: Paul sixteen and sixteen. That's as pathetic as it comes.

2129
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 5: With the spread Freddy twenty eleven.

2130
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 21: Making money eleven and one, followed by Mike and Evan sixteen,

2131
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 21: fifteen and one, Alex fourteen, seventeen and one, and Paul

2132
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 21: twelve nineteen and one.

2133
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 5: And I know what's going on with him over there.

2134
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2135
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 5: See, even you think I have a feel for the league,

2136
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 5: you're a little disappointed with I'm shocked.

2137
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 4: Plus I did lose a couple, so maybe you get

2138
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 4: thrown off by all everybody else's picks.

2139
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 5: I don't I don't even know who you guys. I

2140
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 5: don't know who I can pick either. Sometimes all right tonight,

2141
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

2142
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: On Prime Video eight fifteen, the one in one Giants

2143
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: are at the two and oh forty nine Ers.

2144
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 4: The Niners by ten and a half.

2145
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 7: Oh geez, I'm gonna take San Francisco. But I'm gonna

2146
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 7: take the points for the Giants. I'm thinking maybe they

2147
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 7: can build off of their end a little bit. It

2148
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 7: just seems like a big spread. I know San Francisco

2149
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 7: is really good, but I am I don't know. I

2150
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 7: think I'm gonna pick the Giants to make it tighter

2151
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 7: than ten and.

2152
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 3: A half are gonna go Niners. I'm gonna go with Mike.

2153
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike.

2154
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,600
Speaker 4: Oh, you give me Alex's picks, Evans picking.

2155
01:33:59,400 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go.

2156
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike as well. And uh and

2157
01:34:01,960 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 3: say that the Giants covered the spread Thursday night. You know,

2158
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,440
Speaker 3: you don't see a ton of of one sided affairs

2159
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: like that.

2160
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 4: That is true.

2161
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 5: However, I am going to lay the points with the

2162
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 5: Niners because of Saquon Barkley. I just feel he's such

2163
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 5: a big part of their offense. I'm gonna roll the

2164
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 5: dice and see if they can cover.

2165
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 4: Alex had forty nine ers and forty nine ers lay

2166
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 4: the points.

2167
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean it's easy to say, oh, it's

2168
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: not going to be that big a gap, but I

2169
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: haven't wasn't even thinking about Barkley I'm just thinking it

2170
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: took everything in their power to come back against the

2171
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals last week, and so I'm gonna go forty nine

2172
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: ers to cover. You know, they're they're good. They're a

2173
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: good team. Yep. I would say in your power rankings

2174
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,599
Speaker 1: they probably number one.

2175
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,719
Speaker 5: Right the power rankings? Anybody cares them or Miami?

2176
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you know what's fun you you?

2177
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 5: I don't think they have Miami and my five?

2178
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, I think I think I forgot.

2179
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 5: Maybe that might explain my three, two, twelve and one.

2180
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Moving to Sunday one o'clock, the one and one

2181
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: Colts are at the two and oho Ravens.

2182
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 5: Baltimore by seven and a half. Is this Anthony Rich?

2183
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 5: Do we know? It looks like it's trending toward Gardner Minshew.

2184
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 7: Min I like Minshew though, but it's at Baltimore. I'm

2185
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 7: gonna take Baltimore and I will lay the points and

2186
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 7: Alex is doing.

2187
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Where is it? Okay?

2188
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 4: Do I have to look at my slacks? Sorry, Ravens Ravens.

2189
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm going Ravens Ravens as well. Lamar Jackson MVP front

2190
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: runner in my book right now, Lamar Jackson two, No,

2191
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 3: not too.

2192
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 5: You know, I'm tempted to take the hook, but I'm

2193
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 5: so far behind i can't do it. I'm gonna take

2194
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 5: Baltimore both ways.

2195
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Ravens both ways too. Colts

2196
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 1: have been a little better than I thought they would.

2197
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm worried that without the quarterback they take

2198
01:35:58,520 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 5: a step back offensively.

2199
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 1: Up Sunday at one, the one and one Titans are

2200
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:05,520
Speaker 1: at the one and one Browns.

2201
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 4: Brown's by three and a half. It's by three and

2202
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: a half. I'm gonna take Tennessee on the upset pick of.

2203
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,679
Speaker 5: The death taxes and Mike taking Mike Rabel.

2204
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 4: That's right, alex Is is where the heck is this one?

2205
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 4: Oh geez, Browns. She took the Titans with the points though.

2206
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm taking the upset too. I'm taking the Titans. I

2207
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 3: do not think the Browns have done anything offensively to

2208
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 3: be impressive, and for some reason, Rabel always wins weird

2209
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 3: games like this, So I'm taking the Titans.

2210
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2211
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 5: I agree with you guys that Rabel tends to win

2212
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 5: more games than you think. You know, but I just

2213
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 5: think Cleveland's better and I'm gonna take I'm gonna take

2214
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 5: the Browns to win and cover.

2215
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: I was tempted to take the Titans as well, but

2216
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,600
Speaker 1: now they're on it, so you can't. I'm gonna hedge it.

2217
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Browns, but I'm gonna take

2218
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: those points. Didn't Watson have some issues last week?

2219
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2220
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 1: He was terrible playing No, but after like did he

2221
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: push somebody?

2222
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,360
Speaker 5: It was not a ref that the NFL deans had

2223
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 5: not rised. I think that was the wording was not

2224
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 5: rising to the level.

2225
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Deshaun Watson looked like like garbage and Nick

2226
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 3: Chubb is dead well, NFL dead.

2227
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: I will take the points. At one o'clock, the two

2228
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 1: and oh Falcons are at the one and one.

2229
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 4: Lions Lions by three.

2230
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 7: I like this game, though, I was saying on the

2231
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 7: halftime show how much I am and this is a

2232
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 7: fun game. I just enjoyed Atlanta and you know Detroit

2233
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 7: is at home, so I'm going to take Detroit, but

2234
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the points for Atlanta.

2235
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be close.

2236
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Lions. I'll take them to cover.

2237
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 3: I just can't trust Atlant on the road yet. I

2238
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 3: think they are they do have something brewing, but that's

2239
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 3: a tough spot.

2240
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex, the Lions, Lions.

2241
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Lions, Lions too. But I

2242
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 5: agree with you guys about the Falcons. I think they

2243
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 5: have a semblance of a good young core with London

2244
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 5: and Pitt's and Robinson, Desmond Ritter. Yeah that's you know,

2245
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 5: if that if they can hit on those and have

2246
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 5: you know, get those guys on a second contract together

2247
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you're dealing with a pretty

2248
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,240
Speaker 5: good core of offensive players.

2249
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 3: Just keep picking in the top ten and you'll get.

2250
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 5: Good players, but the offensive skill play. But you have

2251
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 5: to hit on them too. I mean, I wouldn't say

2252
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 5: like the you know, Drake London, oh hit I mean,

2253
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 5: I think it looks like he's pretty good. But you know,

2254
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 5: sometimes you take those guys they don't pan out.

2255
01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Robinson's cool.

2256
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: This is a good it's a good game to fade.

2257
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 5: If you're Shore, you got the Falcons.

2258
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: Because anyone that says they know who these two teams

2259
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 1: are right now, I don't think they're telling you the trying.

2260
01:38:54,840 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with the Falcons for the upset. Okay, Hey,

2261
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: Sunday at one the two and oh Saints are at

2262
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 1: the one and one Packers.

2263
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 5: Packers by two, the pack by two.

2264
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,879
Speaker 4: Any any word on Christian Watson is.

2265
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's all right. I'm gonna take green Bay and

2266
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 7: I'll allay the points.

2267
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take green Bay.

2268
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Alex, Packers, Packers for Alex.

2269
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go.

2270
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Packers, Packers as well. Saints defense really good,

2271
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 3: but that offense did not so much.

2272
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, they miss Kamara and i will take

2273
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 5: the Packers as well. You're starting to see just how

2274
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 5: much Kamara did for that offense.

2275
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Packers both ways. If

2276
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't New Orleans, I might be a little different.

2277
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: But it is. Sunday at one oh and two, Texans

2278
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:48,559
Speaker 1: at the one and one.

2279
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 9: Jaguars Jags by noine nine points.

2280
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 4: Alex going Jags and Jags and yeah that's the division.

2281
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Jags, but I'm gonna take those points.

2282
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 4: I think it's a close one.

2283
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 3: The Texans have a ton of injuries on top of

2284
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 3: not being a very good roster, so I'm gonna go

2285
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 3: Jaguars both ways.

2286
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways too. I think

2287
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,880
Speaker 5: they're probably kicking themselves. They missed a lot of opportunities

2288
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 5: last week. I think they cleaned some of that up.

2289
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Lawrence has yet to play a full sixty

2290
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 1: minutes of good football. I think this week, because of

2291
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: the competition, he should and will. So I'm gonna take

2292
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 1: Jaguars both ways. Sunday at one, the zero to two

2293
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Broncos are at the two and zero Dolphins.

2294
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 5: On the road again.

2295
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 4: For the Broncos, Miami by six and a half.

2296
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 1: Actually the first time this year. But anyway, yeah is it?

2297
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta I'm gonna go with Miami and I'm

2298
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 7: gonna lay the points. Say, I just recency buys for me.

2299
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:52,520
Speaker 7: I thought they looked really good.

2300
01:40:52,880 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with them, Alex, Alex did the where

2301
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 4: is it?

2302
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: Okay?

2303
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 4: Sorry?

2304
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: All right?

2305
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,520
Speaker 3: Dolphins both ways?

2306
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:14,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna take Miami both ways too. I

2307
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 5: was thinking about taking the points, but I think they

2308
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 5: beat him by a touchdown.

2309
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 1: I think a certain head coach called another certain head

2310
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,759
Speaker 1: coach who was his friend and gave him some tips.

2311
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take those points. So Dolphins win.

2312
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 3: But Sean Payton called who Belichick parcels?

2313
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah Belichick. Belichick and Peyton are friends.

2314
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: Now they were friends.

2315
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 5: Let the Dolphins go never mind, You're right, so you

2316
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 5: got you got Miami to win, but Denver to cover.

2317
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: That's right.

2318
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 4: Just don't turn it over.

2319
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: What did it?

2320
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 5: You could never find now, Alex.

2321
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:53,919
Speaker 4: Dolphins, but took the points for the Broncos.

2322
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay, uh, Sunday at one the oh and two Chargers

2323
01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:59,639
Speaker 1: are at the OH and two.

2324
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 5: Viking Vikings by one.

2325
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 3: Somebody's got to win Vikings probably one.

2326
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 5: There are top.

2327
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 4: Man, this is These are two very similar teams, and

2328
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with l A. Baby,

2329
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 4: Let's uh, I'll go with l A. I'll take those

2330
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:19,520
Speaker 4: at one point.

2331
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Vikings at home because I do not

2332
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 3: trust the Chargers to win a road game.

2333
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2334
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 5: I think both of these teams are very similar in

2335
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 5: that they're just not that good, and for some reason

2336
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:32,280
Speaker 5: people still think.

2337
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 3: They both are, especially the Chargers.

2338
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,600
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Chargers on the

2339
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 5: road because I think they're a little bit better than Minnesota.

2340
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 4: Alex.

2341
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I'm surprised we're on the same page here.

2342
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have a big offensive game, big

2343
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: offensive game.

2344
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: Her cousin's at one o'clock, folks, that is true.

2345
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take the Chargers, uh for that one

2346
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 1: one o'clock. The one and one Bills are at the

2347
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: two and oh Commanders.

2348
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:00,759
Speaker 5: Buffalo by six and a half.

2349
01:43:01,360 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 4: Buffalo's nine and a half and a half. Alex took

2350
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 4: the Bills, but the Commander's points. But I am going

2351
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 4: to take the Bills and I'm going to lay the

2352
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 4: points eleven.

2353
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 3: This is tough because Sam Howell's actually looked to play great,

2354
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 3: pretty decent. I'm gonna take Buffalo both ways, though. I

2355
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 3: just think they're a much better team. But the Commanders

2356
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: are a little sneaky, a little sneaky.

2357
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 5: I'm going to take Buffalo both ways too. But I'm

2358
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 5: watching watching you. I'm watching you, Buffalo. I want to

2359
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 5: see if you handle this. This is a spot the

2360
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 5: last few years that they would stumble, you know, on

2361
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 5: the road against not a terrible team, but not a

2362
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 5: good one either, and they sort of roll the balls

2363
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 5: out there and see what happens, and they either win

2364
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,200
Speaker 5: by you know, a closer game than it should be.

2365
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 5: They're kind of like Baltimore like that. Baltimore does a

2366
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 5: lot of those. Well all of a sudden, you know,

2367
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 5: you look up and it's like seventeen thirteen in the

2368
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 5: fourth court and you're like, what's going on in that game? Yeah,

2369
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 5: but I'll take Buffalo.

2370
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I will be rooting for the Commanders, but I have

2371
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: the Bills winning both ways. So all right, now we

2372
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: skip over the Patriots and we go to the one

2373
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,520
Speaker 1: four h five game. It's the zero to two Panthers

2374
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: at the one and one Seahawks.

2375
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 4: Seattle by six.

2376
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 5: Good chance, there is no price Young, Rice Young.

2377
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the case. Seattle at home. I will lay

2378
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 4: the points. Alex did the same.

2379
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 3: The worst offense in the NFL right now is the

2380
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,600
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers, and they might be down there starting quarterback.

2381
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Seattle.

2382
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 4: B do the math.

2383
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 5: See, I'm gonna take Seattle both ways too, But I

2384
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 5: wonder if it actually helps them. You know, I think

2385
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 5: Bryce Young is fine, you know, but he's not ready.

2386
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 5: I watched the you know, good chunk of that Monday

2387
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 5: night game the other night, and if he wasn't able

2388
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 5: to just pull it down and run.

2389
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 4: They had a hard time.

2390
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 5: Moving the ball. Ali pretty good drive. At the end

2391
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 5: of the game. They were down ten and at one

2392
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 5: of those well by the way touchdown drives and he

2393
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 5: did a good job, you know, with the clock. They

2394
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 5: just take Seattle Bowl.

2395
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 3: They traded Dj Moore for the pick to draft Price

2396
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 3: Young and now they have no receivers in Carolina.

2397
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 5: Adam Adam Balen was like the only guy who's throwing too.

2398
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Seahawks both ways in that one

2399
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 1: at home four to twenty five. The two and oh

2400
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys are at the zero to two.

2401
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,759
Speaker 4: Cardinals Dallas by twelve and a half. Twelve and a half.

2402
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 7: That's a lot, but I think that's that's enough. I'm

2403
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 7: gonna take Dallas and I'll lay the points. Alex did

2404
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 7: the same.

2405
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Dallas to cover Micah Parsons. Is he

2406
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 3: like the best player in football?

2407
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 4: My gosh?

2408
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, not quarterback edition.

2409
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 4: That's next week too, like here next week. Yeah.

2410
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a big spread on the road, but

2411
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I can't take the points.

2412
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Dallas both ways too.

2413
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a hammer and nail game. I'm gonna

2414
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: take the Cowboys both ways.

2415
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Uh, Cardinals of the nail.

2416
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Five. The two Bears are at the one and one Chiefs.

2417
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 4: Chiefs by twelve and a half.

2418
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 7: Oh boy, a lot of controversy for Chicago this week.

2419
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't love it hard not to take Kansas City

2420
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 4: and lay the points, and I'm going.

2421
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 3: To I don't love taking that many points with the

2422
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 3: Chiefs right now either, because I don't think that they're

2423
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 3: firing at all cylinders quite yet. But the Bears are

2424
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 3: such disarray, i gotta take the Chiefs both ways.

2425
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 4: Alex is tristed to you twelve and a half.

2426
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the flow Kansas City both ways.

2427
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a subpoena issued in Chicago for the

2428
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: offense to show up, but it won't. Chiefs both ways.

2429
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:45,760
Speaker 3: Get arrested defensive coordinator too.

2430
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Now we move to Sunday night on

2431
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 1: and sure, oh this.

2432
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 5: Is the night game.

2433
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one and one Steelers are at the one

2434
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:58,440
Speaker 1: and one Raiders gros.

2435
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 5: What a bad game.

2436
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one I'll be watching. Raiders by two

2437
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:03,320
Speaker 4: and a half Raiders.

2438
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 7: Wow, all right, that's that's spun around on my sheet

2439
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 7: tough one. I did watch some of Vegas against Buffalo

2440
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 7: last week and was not impressed, and I know Pittsburgh's

2441
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 7: still been struggling to get things going.

2442
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the home team. I'll take Vegas,

2443
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 4: a'll ay the points.

2444
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the home team as too, home team,

2445
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 3: two bodyclock, weird bodyclock game traving across the country.

2446
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh.

2447
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

2448
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 5: I mean, they kind of the same, these teams, and

2449
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 5: you should go with the home team, but I'm gonna

2450
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 5: for some reason in my mind, I think Pittsburgh's better.

2451
01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a complete gut pick for me, not

2452
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: that any of the others aren't. But I'm gonna take

2453
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers as well for the road upset.

2454
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 4: Alice had Raiders, but Steelers plus two and a half.

2455
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: So we have a Monday night double hitter again.

2456
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we got a pall paro little special, right.

2457
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 5: We didn't talk about it like I just brought it up.

2458
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 5: You guys didn't like it, Oh I did, no. I

2459
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 5: I thought I liked the idea of being able to

2460
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 5: like switch back and forth. It taste of some day

2461
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 5: I hate commercially.

2462
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 4: Don't get that. We don't get it. Yeah right, you know,

2463
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 4: and they're either a stream you do not like it.

2464
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Games.

2465
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 5: I liked having them both at the same time. And

2466
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,759
Speaker 5: you I thought they did a good job of keeping

2467
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 5: you up to date, you know, like so like if

2468
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 5: you were watching one and something was happening, they got

2469
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 5: you over there.

2470
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2471
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 5: Did you not like the experience?

2472
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: I fell asleep in the first quarter?

2473
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. Now now yeah, Now, in all seriousness, it was

2474
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 5: it's coming off a night game, and neither game was was,

2475
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,839
Speaker 5: you know, terribly compelling. The start of the Pittsburgh Cleveland

2476
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 5: game was exciting, but because of all the ineptitude, because

2477
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 5: it was drunk, there was there was four turnovers in

2478
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 5: the first like ten minutes of that game.

2479
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: Seven fifteen on ABC, the two and oh Eagles are

2480
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: at the two and oh Buccaneers.

2481
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:56,879
Speaker 4: Uh, Philly by five. Five. I know that the Tampa's

2482
01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 4: showing a little juice here. I'm seeing some high for

2483
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, but I don't think it's enough. I think

2484
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,680
Speaker 4: Philadelphia is gonna really start to kick in the gear here.

2485
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 4: I will take them and lay the points.

2486
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 5: Philly rolls, that's all I got you're taking the points.

2487
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:12,680
Speaker 4: Did you say, No'm laying the point?

2488
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 5: Laying the point?

2489
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 4: And Alex did the same.

2490
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Philly both ways too. I think

2491
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 5: Tampa I give him a lot of credit, you know,

2492
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 5: find a way to win a couple of games to

2493
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 5: start the year. I don't think they're very good.

2494
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 1: Two and zero because you don't like Baker Mayfield. That's

2495
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 1: your problem.

2496
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:29,560
Speaker 5: Well, that that's true. Yeah, I don't think Tampa is

2497
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 5: very good because I think their quarterback stinks. That is accurate.

2498
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I am going to go with the Buccaneers to cover.

2499
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:41,879
Speaker 1: Eagles win, but the Buccaneers don't lose by the points

2500
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 1: that were said.

2501
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 4: That's that's gambling parlance.

2502
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, so is covering.

2503
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: That's covering eight fifteen on ESPN The one in one

2504
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: Rams are against the zero to two Bengals, Bengals by

2505
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 1: two and a half.

2506
01:49:57,920 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 4: Wow, this line has moved from my sheet.

2507
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 5: Well what did it say in Yoshi's six and a half?

2508
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 1: Really?

2509
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 4: Bengals Bengals, So.

2510
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: The money's coming in.

2511
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Puka Nakula, you can't stop them. You can

2512
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 4: only hope to contain them. I'm gonna take Cincinnati La

2513
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 4: the points.

2514
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 3: Upset of the week. I just I look at Joe

2515
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 3: Burrow and I don't see Joe Burrow.

2516
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 4: I see it got a chat injury.

2517
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 3: Of himself, and I'm actually pretty shocked at the Bengals

2518
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 3: haven't shut him down for a couple of weeks.

2519
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:31,639
Speaker 5: And yeah, if they lose this one, that could happen.

2520
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 5: I think it's a get right game. I'll take the Bengals,

2521
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 5: much like last year.

2522
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Rams both ways.

2523
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 4: Didn't see that coming.

2524
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: Yep, you know it, Paul, Rams win, Bengals go oh

2525
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: and three. All right, Now we go back to one

2526
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: o'clock in New Jersey. The oh and two Patriots are

2527
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,480
Speaker 1: up against the one and one Jets.

2528
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 5: Patriots by two and a half.

2529
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna get away from my pick for that.

2530
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: And a half. Yeah, that's five and a half.

2531
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 4: It's because on the point road, right, you get three,

2532
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 4: get three. That's extra bad.

2533
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 3: But actually that that's happening less.

2534
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 4: Than don't don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't.

2535
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 5: Don't bring logic into this even I am.

2536
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 4: Going to take New England.

2537
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: Don't don't get me going.

2538
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:23,879
Speaker 4: But I think it's.

2539
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 7: It's it's gonna be points are going to be at

2540
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 7: a premium, and so I'm going to say Patriots thirteen

2541
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 7: to six.

2542
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Patriots. I just feel like even post Brady,

2543
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 3: they still win games against Zach Wilson's of the world.

2544
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 3: They don't lose these types of games against lesser quarterbacks.

2545
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 3: But I think there's going to be a little bit

2546
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 3: more scoring than other people do. I don't know how

2547
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 3: they get. There might be defensive touchdowns. Marcus Jones while

2548
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 3: he might not play so Pop Douglas, Yeah, I don't know.

2549
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen Patriots, Yeah.

2550
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 4: I am.

2551
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 5: The formula for Patriots success in recent vintages have the

2552
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 5: other team's backup quarterback playing and that is the case.

2553
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 5: So I am on the Patriots. I think that they

2554
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 5: are The difference between the two quarterbacks is the difference

2555
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 5: in the game. And I think maybe seventeen thirteen New England,

2556
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 5: I think Zach Wilson throws one h two to you

2557
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 5: and that's the difference in the game.

2558
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, this weather, yeah, I was. I was with Evan

2559
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: before I got about the cyclone that's coming, and I

2560
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: thought that there'd be more points. What's the over under

2561
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: in this game?

2562
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 5: Thirty seven, thirty seven.

2563
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that I was gonna go with the over.

2564
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with the Patriots scoring in the

2565
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:45,480
Speaker 1: low twenties. So I'm gonna say twenty three ten Patriots.

2566
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 4: I like that one. Alex's Patriots twenty four to thirteen.

2567
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 1: Twenty four to thirteen, that's Alex. Okay, So we're all

2568
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:55,600
Speaker 1: on the Patriots.

2569
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 5: Shocker, you gotta be this, We're all on the under.

2570
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 7: I mean, I do think the game is going to

2571
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 7: be tight, and weather could really just make it a

2572
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 7: coin flip of who makes that one big play at

2573
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 7: some point in the game. But I just think the

2574
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 7: Patriots need it more than the Jets do right now,

2575
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 7: and that's going to make the difference.

2576
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: I hope.

2577
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 4: I think.

2578
01:53:12,880 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 5: I just can't see Bill losing to Zach Wilson. I can't.

2579
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 5: That's me.

2580
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 4: That's where I am.

2581
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 5: If if Aaron Rodgers were playing in this game, I

2582
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 5: would not have I would I would pick Jet.

2583
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 1: I'd be scared to death. Mike and your round table

2584
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: this morning. Any interesting I haven't I haven't.

2585
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 4: I haven't been. I haven't gone through him yet. I've

2586
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 4: gotten some of them back.

2587
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 5: I requisite a media turn, did you.

2588
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 4: Fred's quick, it's got nothing going on. He's just sitting

2589
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:39,519
Speaker 4: in there waiting.

2590
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 5: I wonder if you got in before calendar being the

2591
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 5: first responder, probably the busiest one. I don't know about

2592
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 5: that had a meeting. Sorry, sorry, I got to do

2593
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 5: this right now. Okay, So I think we all see

2594
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 5: the same kind of a game. Points would be sort

2595
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 5: of fluctuating based on the amount of turnovers, right, ye,

2596
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 5: can't have them.

2597
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 3: I see some some pick threes. Likes to call them.

2598
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 5: There were a lot of pick threes in this game

2599
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 5: last year.

2600
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, I'm nervous. I'm really nervous. I can't

2601
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 1: remember in Week three being like this, like, oh god,

2602
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: it's a must win.

2603
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 3: You know, probably two at least it's not Aaron. Like

2604
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,600
Speaker 3: if this was Aaron Rodgers, and I think all of

2605
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 3: us would be picking oh and three.

2606
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Right, So there's any other team but the Jets, Like

2607
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 1: if you're playing the Bears this week, and like, okay,

2608
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: you gotta win it. But you'll lose against the Jets

2609
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: after fourteen straight wins and Zach Wilson's the quarter and

2610
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: you'll lose. That can't happen. That cannot happen. Telling you

2611
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 1: right now. It cannot happen.

2612
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 3: That would get really ugly when you really think about it.

2613
01:54:55,520 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 3: If they if they lose for the first time in

2614
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 3: seven years to the Jets, to Jack Wilson, that to

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01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 3: go and three, that could be really that could be

2616
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 3: a ballgame right there, look out.

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01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 4: Below and then down and then off to Dallas.

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01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 1: And then off to Dallas.

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01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 5: But then they beat Dallas, they upset them good again better. Yeah,

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01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:17,879
Speaker 5: that's true.

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01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: It goes back to what we were talking on the top

2622
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: of the show. Every week has its own life, and

2623
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 1: things can really change quickly if you get that big

2624
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: win against a team that's good like Dallas.

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01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 4: You know, I mean to beat the Jets.

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01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 7: I I I can't even get to that yet, but

2627
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 7: that's going to be another big challenge too. But I

2628
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 7: got a lot of respect for the personnel the Jets have,

2629
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 7: and you know, I know that these games have been

2630
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 7: closer lately.

2631
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 4: And we'll see the turner's.

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01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 1: Name, Douglas, the GM over there, Douglas. He's got a

2633
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: pretty good job so far.

2634
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 5: It's got a lot of high picks.

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01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's built a lot of high picks, but he's

2636
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 1: picked some good guys.

2637
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 5: Besides Zach Wilson.

2638
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 1: True, is that his pick yes, okay.

2639
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 3: Which is like that's in itself tells you how good

2640
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 3: they've done with the rest of the roster, because if

2641
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 3: you pick a number two overall quarterback and he stinks,

2642
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 3: that's usually game.

2643
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 1: I know we're coming up against it. We're going to

2644
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: get ready for catch twenty two. But I think we

2645
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 1: need to have a segment at some point to talk

2646
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 1: about the current state of quarterbacks coming out of college,

2647
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 1: because I think we've lowered our bar. I think Trevor

2648
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: Lawrence was a blue chipper, but other than that, all

2649
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,680
Speaker 1: these guys that have come out, these aren't the quality

2650
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:32,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were used to being seeing at tops of drafts.

2651
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow is, but I mean there's a lot of traits,

2652
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 7: a lot of guys with traits.

2653
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 5: You know, you don't think Herbert's any good good You

2654
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 5: could say that he's not going to win.

2655
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, did I say that?

2656
01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 5: I just said Herbert and he said as a prospect, right,

2657
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. He's got all the tools.

2658
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a great prospect, but thank you.

2659
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of guys like have had all

2660
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: the tools that don't pan.

2661
01:56:56,480 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 3: But like Burrow, Trevor, Lawrence, to Uh and Herbert are

2662
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 3: for legit, legit prospects coming out. This quarterback class coming

2663
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 3: up don't get far star like last.

2664
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: But people here Caleb Williams. Is he that that good?

2665
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 4: They're playing his music?

2666
01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 1: Is he that good?

2667
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 5: Oh? So you just don't like anybody caod Now listen,

2668
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 5: there's been guys that bust in the NFL. I'm not

2669
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 5: telling you he's bust proof, but the guy is tremendous,

2670
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 5: is he? Yes? Oh yeah, he's he's really good him.

2671
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 5: Did you ever watch any USC games? Yeah, he's good.

2672
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 3: D Drake May really good from u n C. Shrewder

2673
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 3: Sanders from Colorado. But Dion said that he might go

2674
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 3: to He might go back because of n I l against.

2675
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Taking more money.

2676
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 5: To take you have to take a pay cut.

2677
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,320
Speaker 3: He already already has a rolls Royce, I heard about that.

2678
01:57:50,000 --> 01:57:51,560
Speaker 5: And Thomas and at t c U to take a

2679
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 5: cut to the.

2680
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 3: L Yeah, well he's mentoring him, is he?

2681
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?

2682
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Wow?

2683
01:57:58,200 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kid's gonna be good.

2684
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 5: Is that just poor to you? I could look at

2685
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 5: the disappointment on your face.

2686
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 1: No, you know what I'm kind of impressed. What if?

2687
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: What if? Kind of impressed that Probably Dion Sanders reached

2688
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: out to Tom Brady and said, can you mentor my kid?

2689
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's signed to TV twelve brand, and what if

2690
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:15,920
Speaker 3: he's the next quarter.

2691
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm impressed by that, Like maybe you know realizes he doesn't.

2692
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 5: If he's the next coach of the team. Well prime coach.

2693
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 3: Coach Prime and his son with Tom Brady mentoring the Sun.

2694
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: I like it.

2695
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 15: I like it.

2696
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 5: You see how easy it is you guys make fun

2697
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 5: of my shows. That's how easy it is. You could

2698
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 5: just go up like that week in a blink.

2699
01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there we are.

2700
01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:40,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for our show, Catch twenty two

2701
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 1: with Alex and Evan coming up next, pregame Social on

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01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: Sunday ten forty five.

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Speaker 5: All right, yes, of course, conventional time, the.

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Speaker 1: Game, the post game. So it's a big weekend final

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Speaker 1: live read.

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Speaker 5: And make sure you listen so Alex will tell you

2707
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Speaker 5: just how good Caleb Williams is and you won't be

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Speaker 5: worried about what Press already did.

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