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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, April sixth, the Year of our Lower twenty

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Speaker 1: Check jam Packed Checked. There's a lot coming up this

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Speaker 1: argument to be made here. They could still be very

427
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Speaker 1: bad this year and improve off of their record last year.

428
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Speaker 1: So overall, talent rosters much better than people expect because

429
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Speaker 1: you expect that they're terrible because they went to intent.

430
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Speaker 1: They're not terrible. It's just everything season from hell vibes.

431
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Speaker 1: That's what we had last year. Everything that could possibly

432
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Speaker 1: go wrong, even stuff that their worst enemies never imagined

433
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Speaker 1: wishing upon them, went wrong. They've got two new coordinators.

434
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Speaker 1: You know. They brought in Malson. I think you know that.

435
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: They also brought in Tony White, who, from my money,

436
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the best defensive coordinators in the country.

437
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Speaker 1: So they made moves. Norvella is handing off play calling

438
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Speaker 1: duties to Gus Malson. I went down there and asked

439
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Speaker 1: him about it last week. We'll release the video tomorrow

440
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Speaker 1: on the channel. He talked about that. But I'll tell

441
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: you what else you should pay attention to here, and

442
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: that's the amount of portal guys they took in last

443
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Speaker 1: year's class that did not immediately pan out. And the

444
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: way people think about the portal is you go sign

445
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: guys and either they immediately boom, they contribute or it's

446
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Speaker 1: a bust. Not always the case. Earl Little is just

447
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Speaker 1: an example of a player that they're talking a lot

448
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Speaker 1: about internally down there. When we were down there the

449
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: other day, that comes to mind. Earl Little they went

450
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Speaker 1: and got in from Alabama or Earl It didn't really

451
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Speaker 1: contribute all that much last year, so he's a bust right? Well, no,

452
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Speaker 1: because he's still in the program and now shine in

453
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Speaker 1: the spring. Do they have a couple of guys that

454
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Speaker 1: do that from that last portal class? How bad is

455
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Speaker 1: the taste in the mouth? Like, how thoroughly did they

456
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Speaker 1: wash the stench of last year off? And also they

457
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Speaker 1: took fewer question marks in this year's portal class. They

458
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Speaker 1: went and got production, proven production like they did a

459
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Speaker 1: couple of cycles ago. They're not going to be as

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Speaker 1: bad as two and ten. I don't know how much

461
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Speaker 1: they'll improve, but that's an easy buy. I'll tell you

462
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Speaker 1: who outside buys Washington. Washington was six and seven last year.

463
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Speaker 1: But the thing is everyone looked at it and said, well,

464
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Speaker 1: that's cause they lost Kaitlin de Boor. No, it's not totally.

465
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Speaker 1: It's because they lost twenty of twenty two starters. So

466
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Speaker 1: Debor would have taken a big step back record wise

467
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, had he stayed at Washington. He didn't.

468
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Speaker 1: Jed Fish came in, and so Jed Fish is the

469
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Speaker 1: poster child for the fall off from National Championship Game

470
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Speaker 1: to six and seven. I think they'll be better this year.

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Speaker 1: DuMond Williams has real, real breakout quarterback potential, like star

472
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Speaker 1: quarterback potential, maybe even a household name by year's end,

473
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Speaker 1: depending on what their record is. But they got some

474
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Speaker 1: big games. However, it is a manageable schedule by Big

475
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Speaker 1: Ten standards, and they're a hot start candidate too. If

476
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Speaker 1: you look at their schedule, it's not front loaded some

477
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Speaker 1: of these teams out there, they got questions. They've also

478
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Speaker 1: got three of their biggest games in the first five

479
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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Washington plays Colorado State, U See

480
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Speaker 1: Davis at Washington State, then they got Ohio State at home.

481
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Speaker 1: So they got three weeks where, you know, crazier things

482
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Speaker 1: have happened. But I would expect them that game at

483
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Speaker 1: Washington State. I'm never assuming a rivalry game outcome, but

484
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Speaker 1: they go to Michigan later in the year. They got

485
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Speaker 1: Oregon at home the last weekend of the year. Six

486
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Speaker 1: and seven last year, I expect improvement. I expect improvement

487
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Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. Said that weird Oklahoma. There we go six

488
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Speaker 1: and seven last year. There were two and six in

489
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Speaker 1: league play. Here's why. Let me tell you why I

490
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Speaker 1: wouldn't expect improvement. Their schedule is the toughest in the country,

491
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Speaker 1: so we're gonna say that a lot, so let's get

492
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Speaker 1: that out of the way. I still expect improvement despite that,

493
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Speaker 1: because it's one of the best defensive lines in the league,

494
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Speaker 1: maybe the country. I think the issues obviously last year

495
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: were majority offense. And I'll give you a stat here.

496
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Speaker 1: They were one hundred and thirtieth in explosive plays last year. Well,

497
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Speaker 1: Washington State was tenth, which is relevant because they went

498
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Speaker 1: and got Washington State's offensive coordinator and quarterback, and so

499
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Speaker 1: they bring them in. I think the roster is a

500
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Speaker 1: top fifteen roster in the country. They may not compete

501
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Speaker 1: for the playoff. Maybe the schedule's too tough, but I

502
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Speaker 1: think if this offensive coordinator quarterback thing clicks, and I

503
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Speaker 1: think it will and they think it will. Oklahoma's going

504
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Speaker 1: to be a much improved team, at least good enough

505
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Speaker 1: to wear their records above five hundred, So i'd buy them.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a little controversial here. I don't

507
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Speaker 1: think it's crazy to sell on Georgia, not long term,

508
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: but if we're talking about last year compared to this

509
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Speaker 1: upcoming year, Guys, they won the SEC last year and

510
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Speaker 1: they're below fifty percent returning production, and I wonder what

511
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Speaker 1: the nucleus of the team is. Normally it's running game

512
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Speaker 1: and defense, and they didn't even really do that well

513
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Speaker 1: last year. And so now I still really don't know

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Speaker 1: that they're all that proven at tailback. They have to

515
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Speaker 1: replace a lot along the offensive line, defensive line, and

516
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: edge kind of relying on underclassmen. There's really good players.

517
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Speaker 1: They got scholarships to Georgia for a reason. So a

518
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Speaker 1: lot of times at Georgia, or in about three or

519
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: four of the programs out there, you could have an

520
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: All American by years in whose name you don't know.

521
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: That could happen anywhere. It disproportionately happens at places like that,

522
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Speaker 1: So it's not that it can't happen if you're trying

523
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Speaker 1: to guess what's most likely to happen. Gunner Stockton is

524
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Speaker 1: starting at quarterback here. Stockton's a really good athlete, but

525
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Speaker 1: he's also a mystery. It's a mystery until he proves something. Now,

526
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Speaker 1: if you're at practice every day, I heard he had

527
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Speaker 1: a really good scrimmage this past weekend. That's wonderful, and

528
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Speaker 1: I expect him to get pretty good quarterback play. I

529
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Speaker 1: don't think you'll ever watch Georgia just be horrific at quarterback.

530
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Speaker 1: But if we're asking if they're going to improve off

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Speaker 1: winning the SEC, I think it's more likely that they

532
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Speaker 1: take a step back than they take a step forward.

533
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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'd say the same thing about Colorado.

534
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: Deon Sanders has silenced a lot of people, me included,

535
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Speaker 1: who had questions about his approach, and I still don't

536
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Speaker 1: have questions about it. But if we're talking about last

537
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Speaker 1: year where they went nine and four, to this year,

538
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Speaker 1: I think it's probably more likely without Shador they take

539
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Speaker 1: a step back. Shador Sanders was a miracle worker. There's

540
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Speaker 1: no world, there is no way that he should have

541
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Speaker 1: been able to do what he did behind that offensive

542
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Speaker 1: line with very little running game to speak of, and

543
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: still made stuff happen. So this year, I don't have

544
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Speaker 1: reason to believe the offensive line will be, you know,

545
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Speaker 1: quantumly improved from last year. Maybe it will be. There

546
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Speaker 1: have been facets of this team that has surprised me before.

547
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Speaker 1: But if we're to believe that it's not massively improved, well,

548
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Speaker 1: now we got Juju Lewis, who age wise should still

549
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Speaker 1: be in high school, and he's competing against Kaden Salter,

550
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Speaker 1: and you're not asking whether Colorado is going to fall

551
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Speaker 1: off a mountain. They could just minorly regress and lose

552
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: three more games than they did last year because the

553
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve is so insanely compressed and competitively balanced. They

554
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Speaker 1: took seventeen transfers too, and only one of them was

555
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Speaker 1: a Blue Chipper, So either they found a lot of

556
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Speaker 1: diamonds in the rough or the roster may just not

557
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Speaker 1: be as good. Travis Hunter also won the Heisman last year,

558
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: not there this year, So I think it's more likely

559
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: than not Colorado falls back. I think it's more likely

560
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Speaker 1: than not Tennessee has a worst record this year. This

561
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: is April when I'm telling you this, But their run

562
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: game and defense that's what carried them last year. And

563
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: they're losing Samson and Pierce off the defensive side, they're

564
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Speaker 1: losing several offensive linemen. They're relying on underclassman at wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: And basically, here's what it comes down to me with Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: Niko Iamaliava has to not only progress, he's got to

567
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Speaker 1: be good enough to elevate guys around him. The best

568
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks can do that. Coming out of high school, you

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Speaker 1: thought he may be that. I'm not riding off the

570
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Speaker 1: potential for him to be that. I'm saying he hasn't

571
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Speaker 1: been that yet through one year, and he needs to

572
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Speaker 1: be that this year. But they were ten and two

573
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Speaker 1: in a playoff team last year, So what's more likely

574
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Speaker 1: than not this year? I think it's more likely that

575
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Speaker 1: they win nine games than eleven games. It's what I'm

576
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Speaker 1: trying to tell you. Let's move along. It is Jesse.

577
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, we have got to file a petition.

578
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Speaker 1: We got to bring posters and markers in here. We

579
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Speaker 1: got to protest outside the building if we have to. Well,

580
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: we got to get at five degrees cooler in here

581
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: on Sunday, even if I didn't have a sunburn this

582
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: would be terrible. What I'm asking is for you to

583
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Speaker 1: feel sorry for me. That's what I'm asking. Let me

584
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Speaker 1: take a chugg of water. It didn't do anything USC,

585
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: the University of Southern California, that's what we're talking about here.

586
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Speaker 1: I want you to listen to the disrespect in this question.

587
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Homer from Oregon hit us and he said, at what

588
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Speaker 1: point will we finally stop pretending that USC is still

589
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Speaker 1: a premier brand in college football? They're just Nebraska in

590
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: a warmer city. Can you believe that? The audacity of Homer?

591
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: We got two different things going on here. If you

592
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Speaker 1: want to talk about USC the team, whether they can

593
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: win nine games or compete for the Big Ten or

594
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Speaker 1: be a playoff contender. Okay, well that's a great conversation.

595
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Speaker 1: We'll probably have that a lot in the coming weeks

596
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: and months. Hoops to amongst us knows, maybe we'll go

597
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: out there and do it in person. Imagine that, but

598
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: a brand, if they're a premier brand, Lincoln Riley could

599
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: go oh in twelve this year and USC would still

600
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: be a premier brand. I'm not quite sure where that

601
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: was going. Maybe Oregon Homer there, in all of his

602
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: haste to deliver the question misworded it, Jesse Colin, do

603
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Speaker 1: people think that USC is not a premier brand just

604
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Speaker 1: because they haven't been on the national championship stage in

605
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Speaker 1: a little while. Brands are built over decades and decades.

606
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: USC was a national brand before I was born. I mean,

607
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Southern Cal was doing this stuff about the time the

608
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Speaker 1: advent of like color TV came around. You had you

609
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: had Andy Griffith going to color and you had college

610
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: football going to color and USC had already been great

611
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: before that, and then they were great after it, and

612
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: there's multiple waves of greatness in their past. It's relevant,

613
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Speaker 1: it's not hard to be relevant. And I mean they're

614
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Speaker 1: parked into Los Angeles, So Southern Cal as a brand.

615
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Speaker 1: I don't think they've faded a whole lot at all.

616
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Speaker 1: That their team hasn't been as good relatively speaking year

617
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: over year. But the whole Nebraska shot there, Now that

618
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: that was below the belt. But let's examine this for

619
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Speaker 1: just a second. We examined things below the belt around here, immunity,

620
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: so let's examine this. USC is just Nebraska in a

621
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Speaker 1: warmer city. The connotation there now, I don't think I'm

622
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: reading between the lines is Nebraska, once upon a time

623
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Speaker 1: was a superpower, and then the whole plate tectonics of

624
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: college football shifted. Now Nebraska can't be that any more.

625
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Speaker 1: A lot of people believe that. I'm not here to

626
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: litigate that tonight, but to think Southern Cols in that

627
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: boat as well, it's crazy because I would ask this

628
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Speaker 1: very simply, and I expect an unbiased answer from a

629
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Speaker 1: guy named Oregon Homer. You need to tell me what

630
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Speaker 1: it takes to win in major college football. I don't

631
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Speaker 1: mean any given year. I don't mean like this particular year.

632
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Speaker 1: I just mean generically, what does it take to win?

633
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Speaker 1: What are the things? The four things, the five things,

634
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: the six things, and then you tell me which of

635
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: those boxes USC doesn't check because I know what I

636
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: think wins, and it's based on results, proven track record,

637
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: and I know which teams had, which programs had what,

638
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: and Southern Cows got all that. Now they're having the

639
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: potential to have all of it doesn't mean they have

640
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: had those things every given year. Like the ability to

641
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: build and sustain a deep championship caliber roster is there

642
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: at USC, but they haven't done it, So that just

643
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: means they haven't fulfilled on their potential. But to think

644
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: the potential for USC to compet at the national level

645
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: is not there anymore. I'm not sure what changed. What

646
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: is it allegedly that changed? What is it, in other words,

647
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: that Southern cow used to be able to do that

648
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: they can't do anymore. Is they're not football talent in

649
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: California anymore? Is there not a big population center out there?

650
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Have we not shifted into a world where marketability is

651
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: even more at a premium for a player than it

652
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: has been at any point in the history of the sport?

653
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Are they not in a major conference? Like? Well, what

654
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: is it I'm missing? If they've sucked on the field,

655
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: it's because the given ingredients there haven't been good enough.

656
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: But the inability to do it, I don't know about

657
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: that the younger generation though, So my twenty year old crowd,

658
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: I want you to talk to me for a second,

659
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: because we were having a little debate about this earlier

660
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: in the office and down in the bullpen. We would

661
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: call it a newsroom, but it's not a news station.

662
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: If you were born in two thousand and five, our

663
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: calculator says you're twenty years old this year. Congratulations, What

664
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: do you think about USC, not the team this given year,

665
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: the program. Is USC a traditional powerhouse, established brand in

666
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: your mind up there with the Michigans and Ohio States

667
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: and Alabama's and Texas And are they a notre dame?

668
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: Are they in that category for you? Because an alarming

669
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: number of you said no, we focus grouped it a

670
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: little bit, so I cheated you said no. So basically,

671
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: your memory starts around twenty ten or eleven, so you

672
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: kind of start five six years old really paying attention

673
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: if you've been a lifelong college football fan. So USC

674
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: hadn't really competed for the national championship in your lifetime.

675
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When I was a kid, Alabama

676
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: wasn't competing for a national championship. Like when I kind

677
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: of gained my coherence, Alabama, as an example, was going

678
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: through a period of several years where they were an

679
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: afterthought national But I thought of Alabama as one of

680
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the premier brands in college football because I knew the

681
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: history of the program. So I'm asking you guys who

682
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: are twenty years old, No, USC hasn't been a prime

683
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: player on the national scene. Do you know the history

684
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: of the program. You can talk about John McKay. You

685
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: can talk about Pete Carroll. There are multiple generations where

686
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: they've been an APEX program in college football. Where do

687
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: you even think they could be? Again, we can debate,

688
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: but like, do you view them that way? A lot

689
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: of you said no, which surprised me. I think you're wrong,

690
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: But I also can't tell you your opinion is wrong

691
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: because how does that even work? So USC, here's what

692
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I'll say. I'll move on after this USC. If we're

693
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: arguing that they're not a relevant brand anymore, I think

694
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: that's a very short sighted argument. But did you know

695
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: they have the number one recruiting class in twenty twenty six?

696
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: Right now, caveat caveat caveat alert, sound the alarm, colin

697
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: caveat alert. I'm going to read the lines so you

698
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: don't have to type it in the replies. Give it time,

699
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: they'll decommit. Verbal commitments don't mean anything. Right now, we

700
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: know we know we've been down this road, you and

701
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: I a million times. This is just a million and

702
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: one and I'm going to offer you the same thing

703
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: that I offer everyone. Take USC's commitment list right now,

704
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: and I will pay you one hundred dollars for every

705
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: kid who decommits and doesn't stick with the class, But

706
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: you have to pay me one hundred dollars for every

707
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: kid that does stick with the class. No one ever

708
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: takes me up on the offer. And I'm not telling

709
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: you no one's going to decommit. I'm telling you a

710
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: majority of this class will sign with USC. That's what

711
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. So let's just pretend for a second

712
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: there's a little validity to this. Uh why are they

713
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: number one in recruiting right now? Well, Josh, that's just

714
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: because the weather's great out there, and it's a blue

715
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: blood and they got a lot of money and they

716
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: got a big brand. Ah, sounds like the pretty relevant,

717
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: is my point? That is relevance. They're not committing to

718
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: Montana State. I should not throw shots like that. Why

719
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: are they committing to USC? It does not matter if

720
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: you're predicting them to win anything this year. Kids are

721
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: buying the vision and it may be just because the

722
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: checks being stroked, it may be because they love the program.

723
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: Either way, it means they're relevant. You think Southern cal

724
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: is the only place playing paying for football players? Do

725
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: you think that? No? I don't think that either. So relevance.

726
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: We're arguing that this is the Allen I ever some moment,

727
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: but for college football relevance, USC is very relevant. We

728
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: move along. Here's a very very pressing question here, you know,

729
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: Jesse in retrospect, I think we should have moved this

730
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: towards the end of the show, but I don't care.

731
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: We'll just breeze right through it. We had it. We

732
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: had a question from c dot JM. How do you

733
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: travel long distances for hours without getting exhausted and what

734
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: do you do to occupy the time except for staring

735
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: ahead endlessly I listen to podcasting. Oh well, here's a

736
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: serious note. I would advise you guys to do this.

737
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I've told my story about this many times before. I

738
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: heard a speaker a long time ago. This was back

739
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: when I was just aimlessly wasting away and floating through life,

740
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: and he was talking about time. We've all got the

741
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: same amount during the day, right, And he was asking,

742
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: if you do an inventory of your day, you should

743
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: find out how much time you spend versus how much

744
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: time you invest spend. Time is time you get nothing

745
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: in return from, and invested time is something that gives

746
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: your return. So he said, then when you figure out

747
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: what you do during the day, find out where the

748
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: chunks are that you're spending time that you could repurpose

749
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: to invest in time. So some of you play video

750
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: games a lot. You're getting nothing out of that unless

751
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: you're doing it professionally, unless you're making money off of it.

752
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: So like you could take that time and redirect it.

753
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Stop playing video games and you can invest time. Well,

754
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: for me, it was driving. I had a lot of

755
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: driving time. I was going to class, I was going

756
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: to work, and I was just listening to music. Nothing

757
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: wrong with music. But I thought about that and I said, well,

758
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: if I I want to make it in talk radio,

759
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: which was my goal at the time, I'm not just

760
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: gonna get thrown on air. I gotta get reps somewhere.

761
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: So I quite literally for two years didn't play music

762
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: in the truck hardly ever. And I would like, I'd

763
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: turn on cow Herd's show where I turn on Mike

764
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: and Mike whatever was on ESPN Radio that morning, and

765
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: then I'd hit mute at a random time and I

766
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: would just take the conversation over. I would talk to

767
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: my steering wheel. I would just simulate sports talk radio.

768
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: So I still do that stuff when I'm alone is

769
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: my point. So that's one thing I do. I can

770
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: promise you don't really fall asleep doing that. The other

771
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: thing about the travel, I had stats in info run

772
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: some quick numbers. If you told me this about myself

773
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: ten years ago, I would have thought, there's no way

774
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I stayed in the hotel eighty six

775
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: nights last year. I'm already at twenty one this year.

776
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I would have thought that was mind boggling. Now it's

777
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: just normal. I've taken two hundred and twenty four flights

778
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: over the past couple of years. They tell me there

779
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: were three hundred and sixty five days in a year,

780
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: so it's a pretty substantial number. And also last year's

781
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: tour circumnavigated the globe. We went over twenty four run

782
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand miles. You just do it. And here's

783
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: what makes it easy. I'm doing it doing what I love.

784
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm either storm chasing or I'm covering college football, So

785
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: I'm not like the travel. Yeah, man, you can't make

786
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: one hundred miles go buy any faster legally, But what

787
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: would I rather be doing? Would I rather be traveling

788
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: a whole lot doing what I love, or sit behind

789
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: a desk not traveling at all, doing something I hate.

790
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: No brainer, No brainer. Let's move along to quick trip.

791
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: That's what makes it easy. This is the best slam

792
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: dunk Jesse. I know you even set it up like

793
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: that to alliuot me and I ball just went over

794
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: my head. But quick trip does make it easier. Quick

795
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: trip makes it a lot easier. In fact, what you

796
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: learn to do is you learn to gauge your stops

797
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: by where the next quick trip is some areas of

798
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: the country. I know that's an possible right now, but

799
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, give it some time. The cold brew on tap,

800
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: it's like an oasis, more so than water itself. It's

801
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: an oasis. Oh, by the way, there's also the high

802
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: quality premium gasoline. Let's be real, I'm not paying for premium,

803
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: but still they've got they've got all flavors of gasoline,

804
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: all flavors of col brew. We appreciate quick trip, making

805
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: the spring tour, the fall tour, every tour possible, and

806
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: your tour as well. All right, we deviated a little there.

807
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Let's get back on the college football road. Appreciate you

808
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: guys watching live. We've got a healthy crowd here. Thank

809
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: you so much, Michael for examples. Watching from Kingston, Tennessee,

810
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: not too far from where we are. All right, we

811
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: had a question, Oh man, this is it's tough out

812
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: here for Sark Kangaroo Joe hit me. He said, is

813
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Texas gonna take a step forward again this year? Or

814
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: a step back? So? Texas did not win the national

815
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: title last year, so you know, everyone won a step forward,

816
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: which is fair. It's Texas and to whom much is given,

817
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: much is expected. Blah blah blah. Although there's validity to that.

818
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: But man, to take a step forward, there's not much

819
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: else they can do. They got to win the SEC

820
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: and I guess go to the national title game or

821
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: win the national title. Those would be examples of steps forward, right, Okay,

822
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: do we think that's more likely or do we think

823
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: it's more likely that being thin at tight end and

824
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: relying on very young wide receivers and replacing the majority

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: of the offensive line in the interior of the defensive line.

826
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: Do we think with the new starting quarterback that they

827
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: may take a step back now, as is the case

828
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: with Georgia, as is the case with Ohio State. When

829
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about these teams. Not all returning production numbers

830
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: are equal. Yeah, Texas is below fifty percent returning production.

831
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: And yeah they are starting some new guys, well, lesser

832
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: known guys on the interior of the or defensive line

833
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: and across the offensive line. And yeah, that quarterback is

834
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: relatively new. But here's the thing. Everybody in America wanted

835
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 1: all those players in Texas got them. So again in Austin,

836
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: Texas one of the few places they could be breeding

837
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: all Americans come December. You don't know the name of

838
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: the previous April. That's the way it happens. At a

839
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: place like Texas. Their strength of schedules favorable. They have

840
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: got the by our records, by our count, they've got

841
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: the thirteenth out of sixteenth in the SEC in terms

842
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: of strength of schedule. Now they listen, it's all relative

843
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: because in the SEC, having a bottom tier strength of

844
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: schedule still makes you go to Georgia, to Florida, Oklahoma

845
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: neutral site, and they also go to Ohio State week one. So,

846
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: like I said, that's all relative. They're out of conference

847
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: schedules nothing Well, you know, I say that. Excuse me,

848
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: I take it back. I take it back. I take

849
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 1: it back. John Bianco will jump down my throat rightfully.

850
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: So if I just let that go in checked after

851
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: the Ohio State game. Their other out of conference games

852
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: are San Jose State and UTEP and Sam Houston, So

853
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: my apologies. There two big in state rivals there. They

854
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: are one hundred and third in returning production. I think

855
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: it's more likely they take a take step back. It's

856
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: more likely, it's not. It's not time to predict yet,

857
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: but man, let's say they do. Let's say let's say

858
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: the bottom falls out in Texas goes nine to three.

859
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Progress is not always linear. People really struggle with this concept.

860
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: But see, I'm a believer. There is a world could

861
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: be Texas, could be anyone else where. They have one

862
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: fewer wins this year, but yet the program continues to

863
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: grow or progress whatever words you want to use there.

864
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: But there you are what your record says you are.

865
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Crowd would tell you, well, that's impossible. Why because you

866
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. So if you're

867
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: not good as good or better than you were last

868
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: year in the win lost column, you didn't progress, Well

869
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: that's not always true. However, that is how you get judged.

870
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: So progress is not always perfectly linear. And I assume

871
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: the spirit of this question when you asked will they

872
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: take a step forward or not? Is will they have

873
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: a better record or will they have a better finish

874
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: to the season. It's not impossible, but it is easier

875
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: for me to see them taking a little step back

876
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: than step forward. We've rained on some parades tonight. I

877
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: don't mean it to be a negative show. That's just

878
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: it's April sixth, give me a break, and I'm sitting

879
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: in a room alone, so no one's arguing with me.

880
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: But I just imagine it. They're watching us in Winchester, Virginia, Houston,

881
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: Texas while they were hopefully they still are, and Kingston, Ontario.

882
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: How many college football fans we got in Ontario. It's

883
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: a great question. You will be happy to know that,

884
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: even if you're watching Canadian football or American college or

885
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: pro football, we all unite on this next question. Here,

886
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: I got to pop the top on a root beer

887
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: ZeVA for this one hero sugar. Of course, see, z

888
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Zvia doesn't play full transparency. You want to know what's

889
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: in a can of Zevia, you just look on the

890
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,479
Speaker 1: back of the can. It's very simple, right I wish

891
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: college football was like this, but it can't always be.

892
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Excuse me for a second, and I have not necessarily

893
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: cleared what I'm about to say with Zvia, but I'm

894
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: sure they agree. We've been doing the Truth Tellers series lately.

895
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: We talked about the truth with a lot of college

896
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: football coaches, but it's not limited to coaches. We could

897
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: tell the truth on anything. So tonight I thought it's

898
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: a good time to tell the truth about college football officiating.

899
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: We mostly agree on this. College football officiating is broken.

900
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: I think it's bad. I think college football officiating in

901
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot of cases outright sucks. But I'm not sure

902
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: even if you're not in your head and you agree

903
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: with me, I'm not sure I'm talking about what you

904
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: may be talking about. And maybe we are. Maybe we're

905
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: on the same page here. I think when people say

906
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: their opinion of college football officials is that it sucks,

907
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: they suck. I think what you're talking about is guys

908
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: missing calls, girls missing calls. I'm not really talking about that.

909
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Although I don't like to see missed calls, and it's

910
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: egregious if the same person keeps missing calls because they

911
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: shouldn't still have the same role they have. We agree

912
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: on that. But let me tell you what I think

913
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: about officiating. I think it's really hard to do, and

914
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: I think college football officials, buy and large, are extremely

915
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: good at what they do. I think they've got the

916
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: intention of doing the best job they possibly can. Ninety

917
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: nine percent of the time when the allegations thrown out

918
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: that something's crooked or something isn't as it seems, I

919
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: don't buy that. I talk to these guys a lot

920
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: before games. Some of the first people to come up

921
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: to me when I'm on the field are officials, and

922
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: I swear to you, although they will remain nameless officials

923
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: white hats like crew chief type in major conference games.

924
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Last year, several times came up to me because we

925
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: covered this topic on the show, and you would think

926
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: that hate it, and they said, we love it. Keep pushing.

927
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: And it's because of what I hate about college football officiating.

928
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: It's not the officials that I have the big problem with.

929
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: I've got a problem with the fact that and this

930
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: will blow your mind. It's settle back, strap in because

931
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: this is going to be a wild concept. But the

932
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: people who run college football have really screwed up officiating.

933
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: For the officials, but especially for us, that's the bad news.

934
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: The good news is it's fixable. The other bit of

935
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: questionable news is I have no clue if it'll get fixed.

936
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: But the problem is not in blown calls. So maybe

937
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: I differ from you here, but yeah, we got blown calls.

938
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: They have them in the NFL, they've got him in

939
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. They've got them all over the place.

940
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: The problems with the lack of national standards, and that's

941
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: not something that the line judge in the Michigan Michigan

942
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: State game really has control over the problems in the

943
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: fact that big ten folks are made to care about

944
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: different things than SEC folks, than big twelve folks, than

945
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: ACC folks. And you would think to yourself, Wait, college

946
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: football is a huge, multi billion dollar enterprise. You're telling

947
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: me they haven't gotten the enforcement mechanisms of the games

948
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: themselves on the same page. Great question. No, they haven't.

949
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: The certification process is jacked up. What's required of them

950
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: is jacked up. What is emphasized in one conference versus

951
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: another conference is jacked up. There is this inexcusable resistance

952
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: to transparency that's jacked up in other words, you pay

953
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars for your ticket, or you know, you

954
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: pay exorbitant fees for your cable package or YouTube TV

955
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: bind large cause you want to be able to watch

956
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: the games live, and you contribute emotionally and financially, and

957
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: then someone blows a call and the powers that be

958
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: look at you and say, piss on you. We don't

959
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: owe you an explanation. You owe every one of us

960
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: an explanation. These aren't States secrets. You're not hiding the

961
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: nuclear codes. Someone's screwed up in LSU, South Carolina. I'd

962
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: love to know why the call got made. And at

963
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: the very worst, I'm not going to get an explanation.

964
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: And if I'm Shane Beemer, not only can I not

965
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: call it out, I'm gonna get fined if I do

966
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: call it out. Even though everyone knows I'm telling the

967
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: truth and I'm reflecting what they think, officials don't control

968
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: that though they're not the ones who wrote the rules

969
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: for themselves. Most of this is out of officials' hands.

970
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: So the one thing I'll tell you is every time

971
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: I do this segment, I get feedback from officials, and

972
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: believe it or not, a lot of them have no

973
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: problem taking accountability. What they've got a problem with is

974
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: the real story is not told. Like you probably don't

975
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: know the certification process. You probably don't know how clinicians

976
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: are selected to run the clinics and the camps that

977
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: the officials go to, and how they're promoted, and who

978
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: makes that determination, who decides the crew that's working your

979
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: game in Arkansas and fate Mall Arkansaw this Saturday. And

980
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: when one of them screws up last week? Did they

981
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: screw up just because they missed a call, or did

982
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: they screw up because they're calling an out of conference

983
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: game in Fayetteville, Arkansaw with Arizona State in town and

984
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: it's actually a crew from another conference and they've been

985
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: told to emphasize things differently than another conference's officiating crew.

986
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Hasn't They actually did what they've been taught to do.

987
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: But they made the call in a part of the

988
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: country that's normally officiated by other crews that have been

989
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: told different things. See quickly the web gets tangled when

990
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: you learn how big of a mess it is behind

991
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: the scenes. Now, this shouldn't come as a shock to you.

992
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: This college football. Why in the world would it make sense, right.

993
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of problems with a lot

994
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: of that. But my biggest problem above and beyond all

995
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: that other mess is the lack of transparency. This is

996
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: where officials disagree with me a little bit. But hear

997
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: me out. Every time you see a bad call in

998
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: a college football game, what do you know? You know

999
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: largely what you just saw is what you're going to get.

1000
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: You'll see a replay and so you'll be able to

1001
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: judge for yourself whether the official got it right or not.

1002
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a head coach the other day.

1003
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: Tell me officials have never been in a worse position

1004
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: because it used to be, you know, we maybe got

1005
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: a replay on the big board in the stadium, or

1006
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: we had someone in the in the press box calling

1007
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: down saying, hey, he missed this one. Now they've all

1008
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: got the iPads on the sideline, so they know seconds later,

1009
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: crystal clear HDVU whether the guy missed it or not.

1010
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: So it's not in question whether they missed it. The

1011
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: question is are you going to get an explanation? Me

1012
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: and you, not the coaches, Me and you. The entire

1013
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: reason the thing exists to the scale it does to

1014
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: begin with, are we going to get an explanation, and

1015
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get told, Well, we can't

1016
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: subject officials to that, and why not, Well, they're not

1017
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: full time employees. I want you to imagine you're a

1018
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: track star for your high school and you show up

1019
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: one day, big meat against your crosstown rival, and you

1020
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: walk out on the track with chains on your ankles,

1021
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: and you walk up to coach and say, I can't

1022
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: run today, and he says, why you said, I got

1023
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: these chains on my ankles, And then he says, what's

1024
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: that in your hand? Is that a key? Just take

1025
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: the chains off, and you're like, I can't hear you,

1026
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: just keep walking. You would be a laughing stock, right,

1027
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: You would be dismissed from the program immediately, because in

1028
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: no other walk of life would this fly, except we're

1029
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: supposed to swallow that. In college football, it's a multi

1030
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: billion dollar operation with a nickel and dime officiating apparatus

1031
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: attached to it. This is not, by the way, It's

1032
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: not like choosing the crew that cleans the bleachers after

1033
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: the game, which you know, all due respect to you guys,

1034
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: pale insignificance to what's happening on the field. These are

1035
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: the people that decide the games. These are the people

1036
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: who make the calls, that decide the games. And we've

1037
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: got people somewhere, nameless, faceless whoever runs this sport. Right now,

1038
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: we got people saying, now, we don't really owe you

1039
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: an explanation about why this call went the way it did.

1040
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: Coaches don't get one half the time, and even if

1041
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: they do, it's kind of two days late. And it

1042
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,959
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because they don't retroactively let you go back

1043
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: to the point in the game they screwed the call

1044
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: up and restart it. And here's the other thing. What

1045
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: happens the following week. I've had a couple of people

1046
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: from different league offices reach out and say, Hey, just

1047
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: because you don't think we're punishing those crews doesn't mean

1048
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,479
Speaker 1: we're not. You're making my point. Make it public, Make

1049
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: it public. Who are you protecting here? The part time employee, Josh, Well,

1050
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 1: I got a radical concept for you, make them full

1051
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: time employees. Well, we can't do that because well, we've

1052
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: never done that. It's great logic, great logic. I'm sure

1053
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: we would have advanced light years as a society using

1054
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: the logic. We can't do things we've never done before.

1055
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: What's the fix. We can't be presenting problems without solutions

1056
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: on this show. That would be irresponsible. Here's the fix.

1057
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: Nationalized college football officiating. It's twenty twenty five. I don't

1058
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: think there's really any need for SEC officials or league

1059
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: officials to exist. College football officials should exist. Same certification,

1060
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: same training, same grading system. They're all taught the same thing,

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00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: they all work off the same book, they all work

1062
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: off the same code their full time employees, and then

1063
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: they're treated like them, they get paid like them. They

1064
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: already get treated like them, and you maximize transparency on

1065
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: the entire process. There's a crew chief available after every game.

1066
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: They made the calls in the game. And you know what,

1067
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: when the true freshman quarterback throws three picks, he's got

1068
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: a microphone in his face. When a head coach screws

1069
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: up and misuses a timeout or keeps one in his

1070
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: back pocket, he's got to go to the podium and

1071
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: ads for it after the game. So do you? So

1072
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: do you? You got a big role to play in

1073
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: this as well. You ought to get compensated for it.

1074
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: You ought to be taken care of. And there's a

1075
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: lot of behavior out there, all the way from little

1076
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: league to professional sports of fans towards officials. That's garbage.

1077
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't condone it at all. I don't condone it

1078
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: at all. However, I think some of that, not all

1079
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: of it, but some of that would be alleviated if

1080
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: people at least knew that we're gonna get an answer

1081
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: after a game, get an explanation. And sometimes it's like

1082
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: Jim Joyce cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game, and what

1083
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: does he do? He sits there and cries after the

1084
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: game and says, I screwed up. Well, you know what,

1085
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: People don't continue to chase if you don't run, But

1086
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: a lack of transparency is tantamount to you running. And also,

1087
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: what we'd love to know is that if someone is

1088
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: just bad at their job, there are punitive measures taken

1089
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: against that person. We'd love to see promotion and relegation

1090
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: in the officiating world the same way we do in

1091
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: our workplace, and we love, in a perfect world for

1092
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: it to be based on merit rather than whose cousin

1093
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: happens to be on what crew, Because right now we

1094
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: have no transparence, we have no clue how that works.

1095
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: And so that's the truth about officiating in college football.

1096
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Officiating is broken right now, but it doesn't have to be.

1097
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be at all. Let us move along.

1098
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to complain, but some things have to

1099
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: be complained about. And it's April right now, so we've

1100
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: got time to talk about it. We had we had

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00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: a question that I did have an opinion on. Connor

1102
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: from Montgomery hit me. He said, Hey, what's your thought

1103
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: process on the Bama quarterback battle this spring? Do you

1104
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: go for the guy who's been there in Ty Simpson

1105
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: or the shiny new toy in Keelan Russell. Well, I

1106
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: go with the guy who gives me the best chance

1107
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: to win. And that's not coach speak because I'm not

1108
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: a coach, so how could it be coach speak. My

1109
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: core opinion on this is unchanged. So here's the deal.

1110
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: That's ty Simpson's job to lose. I thought that going

1111
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: into spring, I thought it during spring. I will continue

1112
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: to think that. I think they've got a chance to

1113
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: be a really good team with him leading the way,

1114
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: and he's got a chance to be a really good story.

1115
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson's a former blue chip quarterback who's been there

1116
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: a few years now. He did not come in and

1117
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: start immediately. He had to abide his time and he

1118
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: had options to go elsewhere, and he hasn't, And now

1119
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: he could be the starting quarterback at Alabama. It's pretty

1120
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: by gone as a concept. You don't start immediately as

1121
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: a highly rated kid at that position, you move on. Well,

1122
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson didn't, so hopefully he has a good year

1123
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: this year if he's their starter, and we celebrate that.

1124
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: But what has changed, maybe just a smidge in my mind,

1125
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: is the pecking order in that room. Because I did

1126
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: think Keelan Russell could come in and as a true freshman,

1127
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: could make some noise. I solidly think he's their number

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01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: two now, and I would not have said solidly before

1129
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: spring camp because he had not taken a snap in

1130
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: a major college football program. Will he has now, and

1131
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: he's got some stuff. I'm just telling you point blank,

1132
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: you can't hide. And I don't know when you'll see it.

1133
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll do with their format for

1134
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: a day. I don't know. Maybe they'll be up by

1135
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: thirty on Florida State in Week one and you'll see him.

1136
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: Maybe you won't see Hi until Week eight, But eventually

1137
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: you'll see Keelan Russell this fall and you'll see what

1138
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, because he's a true freshman and stuff

1139
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: still moving a million miles an hour for him mentally.

1140
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: But there's stuff he has that only God can give you,

1141
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: and from the neck up, the stuff he can control,

1142
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: he is razor sharp with and they'll be that wow moment.

1143
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: You remember when Tua first came to Alabama and Hurtz

1144
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: was the starter, but they put him in in garbage

1145
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: time and you'd see him do some stuff and it

1146
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: ended up make you say, it ended up making a

1147
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of people say, wait a second, is he our

1148
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: best quarterback? Loe and Beholdy ends up taking the reins

1149
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: in the National title game. I'm not suggesting something that radical,

1150
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: but I am saying I think that's solidly the guy

1151
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: who will give them the next best chance to win.

1152
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: And that's not to be down on Austin Mack. I think,

1153
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: especially accuracy wise, he's come a long way since last year.

1154
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think they hate what they see from

1155
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: him at all, So don't take it to mean that.

1156
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: But Keelan Russell's a special player and Ty Simpson's rock

1157
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: solid and dependable. The thing to remember here is when

1158
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: that's the case, normally you'd like to have a completely,

1159
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: like two or three deep, loaded tailback room that you

1160
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: can lean on and you can just ground and pound

1161
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: your way and play action and just ask guys not

1162
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: to lose you the game. I'm not sure that's Alabama

1163
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: this year. I think they're good at tailback. I don't

1164
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: think they'll be elite there. And if they're not, then

1165
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: that means you've got to have quarterbacks make plays in

1166
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: you games. And that's where I got a bit of

1167
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: good news for you. I think that wide receiver room

1168
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: could be one of the best in the country. So

1169
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got some guys emerging there who can

1170
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: get them the ball consistently and relatively mistake free. That's

1171
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: what you're asking and that's what God invented spring for.

1172
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've thought that was Ty Simpson's job to lose.

1173
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: I still think it is, and we'll see what. We'll

1174
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: see what the rest of spring brings. I'm interested to

1175
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: see what they do with the format of their spring

1176
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: game next week, because you know there's a world where

1177
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: they don't show anything and there's a world where even

1178
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: if that is the case, you put the football in

1179
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: someone's hands and you blow the whistle, they're gonna try

1180
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: as hard as they can. And a quarterback situation is

1181
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: interesting if some guys just happen to do some things

1182
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,200
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can quite bet on who's gonna

1184
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Speaker 1: start at quarterback for Alabama, and it'd be a little

1185
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Speaker 1: aggressive for a prop market in April, but you can

1186
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Speaker 1: bet on whether they'll win the SEC. You've got Week

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Speaker 1: What they didn't offer odds on is the next question

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have. I'm not gonna have Collin clip

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Speaker 1: this for the channel, so pretty much if you're watching

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Speaker 1: the full link show or the podcast. You'll get this,

1217
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: but that's it. Sm hit me and said, hey, I

1218
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Speaker 1: want to know the story of how your proposal went down.

1219
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: Must know insider edition. I'm very private, believe it or not,

1220
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: as a person when it comes to my personal life.

1221
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't even share my wardrobe with you. I just

1222
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: wear the same shirt every night. But it is true.

1223
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: Since the rumors had started to circulate, I figured I

1224
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: would confirm I have gotten engaged to I hesitate to

1225
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: call her Savannah Stak because, unlike Peyton State, Savannah State

1226
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: actually exists. So I'm not sure about the you know,

1227
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: the ip crossover there. But yeah, it did go down.

1228
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: Happened a couple of weeks ago. We just announced it

1229
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: last week. I even took pictures and jeans. No, no,

1230
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: when the last time was I did that. But it's

1231
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: been great. She worked in college football for a long time,

1232
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: multiple programs program, plural of program, so she gets this.

1233
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: It's really a blessing because I've wondered for a long

1234
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: time with the way your lifestyle has to be shaped

1235
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Speaker 1: to kind of do this show the way we do it.

1236
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it was imperative. I am gonna

1237
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Speaker 1: say it. You pretty much had to have someone who

1238
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: got it. And if you've worked for Nick Saban, you know,

1239
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: if you've worked in multiple college football programs, I think

1240
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: you kind of get what sometimes a ninety hour work

1241
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: week looks like and how sometimes you've got to be

1242
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: a little a little myopic and zoned in on this

1243
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: stuff at the expense of other things. So she gets

1244
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: that more so than anyone that I've ever met. Now

1245
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: Here is the situation. I knew where I wanted to

1246
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: do it, like I knew where I wanted to ask her.

1247
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: It's the same place that we really first hung out

1248
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: and talked for a long time. I cannot disclose the

1249
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, latitude longitude coordinates. But I go out there

1250
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: one night and there is someone parked there and it's

1251
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: a I don't know, it's like a there's a driveway.

1252
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of weird, but anyway, the entrance was blocked.

1253
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: So imagine building yourself up and then oh, we can't

1254
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: do it. Next night, go to dinner afterwards, drive by

1255
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: there there is a tractor blocking the way. Third night

1256
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: was the charm no one there. Trade off was it

1257
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: was a little rainy, but it worked, and believe it

1258
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: or not odds against it. She said yes, and here

1259
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: we are, and the most important thing was the yes,

1260
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: and then the second most important thing was she's just

1261
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: as opposed to fall weddings as I am. What a blessing,

1262
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: What a bless on multiple fronts, What a blessing. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's happening. And I'm sure that we'll mix more in

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Speaker 1: on the show as it gets closer. And it's pretty

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