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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, seven games into the season,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are five and two. What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: What does it tell us about this team moving forward?

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Speaker 1: We take a thirty thousand foot view of how the

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Speaker 1: season is played out so far. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode three forty two, and it starts now. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws

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Speaker 1: near sight of fence part pennies into the end zone

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. So

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, MJ, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna rip it right off of what Chase Edmonds had

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Speaker 1: to say postgame Sunday following Sunday Night Football quote. This

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Speaker 1: is that type of games where you really find out

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Speaker 1: how real are we? We'll ask you back, Direcki, after

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Speaker 1: seven games, how real are the Arizona Cardinals? Well, when

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Speaker 1: you got five wins? And you're looking at the second

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Speaker 1: half schedule, which we'll get into. I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think this team is making progress, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they've scratched the surface like they think on offense.

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Speaker 1: I think defensively you have to be impressed with some

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Speaker 1: of the stops they've made in some of the rankings.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I definitely think they put themselves in

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Speaker 1: the conversation to be one of those wild card teams.

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Speaker 1: Five and two after seven games, as we officially hit

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Speaker 1: the buy here on Cardinals cover two presented by Honday Probat,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. I think in the offseason,

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Speaker 1: you look at this schedule and you say, all right,

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Speaker 1: sign up for that. The question is how you get

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Speaker 1: I think that's where people would be scratching their head

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Speaker 1: look back at history. Seahawk's very good at State Farm Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the last years when Sean mcvainsman the head coach, they've

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, this is the year that you got

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Speaker 1: again that we could see three teams make the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the division winner and then based on records and

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Speaker 1: the division and you know, obviously they play well in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: You know San Francisco's gonna come here. And then you

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Speaker 1: and let's be honest, they should have won that Detroit game.

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Speaker 1: But in the end, you know, they made too many

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Speaker 1: You've doubled your win total from one year to the next.

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Speaker 1: seven games, he's been sacked nine times for thirty eight

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Speaker 1: yards and losses. What a difference a year makes, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is not just the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. But we heard Kyler Murray bring it up

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Speaker 1: in the offseason and in training camp that they wanted

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Speaker 1: to cut that sack total from a year ago forty

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Speaker 1: eight and half. Now that's a big ask, but hey,

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Speaker 1: they're on track to cut it even more than half.

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Speaker 1: But it's him acknowledging that I can't out run certain

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. I gotta be smarter. I'm not always going

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Speaker 1: to make a positive play. It's okay to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball away. It's okay to give yourself up as long

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Speaker 1: as it's just a one or two yard loss. It's

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Speaker 1: not that seven, eight, ten, twelve yard loss that we

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Speaker 1: saw a lot last season. Yeah, and you know Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I checked out his Instagram account and he said, quote

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Speaker 1: put my heart and soul into this. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you talk about a guy that's a fierce competitor. But

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Speaker 1: it was nice to seem small on the sidelines. I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I was telling you a few weeks ago, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching Aaron Rodgers some of these quarterbacks. Now, he's not

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Speaker 1: been in the league that long enough, and if the

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Speaker 1: game's tight, you can't sit there. But he's you can

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Speaker 1: see he's having fun and I don't think he's feeling

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Speaker 1: the same pressure that he felt last year. Well at

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Speaker 1: this point now, I think because he's more comfortable, you

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Speaker 1: can be more free as far as what you want

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Speaker 1: to do personally, and then within this offense and then

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Speaker 1: you bring it up what you touched on earlier, what

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker told Dan Patrick this week, the trust. I

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Speaker 1: think Kyler Murray is beginning to trust more of his

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Speaker 1: teammates to do things that maybe he had to guide

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Speaker 1: them through or just say, you know what, they're not

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Speaker 1: quite there yet, let me go to option B or

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Speaker 1: option to see. Yeah, And he's not afraid to get

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Speaker 1: in someone's face. You know, I want to see it

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Speaker 1: on the field. But if he's going to the sidelines

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Speaker 1: and you know, guys are giving him attitude, he's going

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Speaker 1: to confront you. And so you know, in the last game,

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of players like Hopkins and Fitz

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Speaker 1: told you know, hey, Cliff, this could work here, and

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Speaker 1: Clift know he takes it in consideration. He's got to

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Speaker 1: make the decision. It's not that they were asking for

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Speaker 1: the ball, but they see stuff that they think can

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Speaker 1: work based on their experience in the NFL. And and

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Speaker 1: again that's that's really great for Cliff that he's allows

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Speaker 1: these guys input. We know when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: running game during the week, it's it's Sean Kugler and

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Speaker 1: then his backup, Brian Nackin. Yeah, we need to say

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Speaker 1: his name more, Brian Nakin. Brian Nackin, because I was

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Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of came out that he does

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Speaker 1: a lot of the cut ups for the players, so

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Speaker 1: during the week they're prepared. I mean the fact that

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Speaker 1: you know Kugler, Saxon, Steve Hyden there, they really are

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Speaker 1: involved in the running game game plan. So the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's willing to lean on these guys. And I

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Speaker 1: can't say enough about the higher up Sean Coogler. Listen, Um,

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Speaker 1: they had George Warhop here, Russ Grimm. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was getting a little long in the tooth. He always

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Speaker 1: backed players. I get it because he played the game.

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Speaker 1: But I think Sean Coogler's the best offense a line

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Speaker 1: coach they've had since they moved here. Well, the numbers

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Speaker 1: certainly back up that claim. And yes, you have to

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Speaker 1: account and we always do, but We always say it

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray his running ability, because that is a huge factor.

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Speaker 1: It's not just one guy going between the tackles or

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Speaker 1: finding a lane on the left or right edge. It's

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Speaker 1: the defense having to wonder what is Kyler Murray going

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Speaker 1: to do and then put one or two guys on him,

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Speaker 1: which opens everything else from an offensive standpoint. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think a lot of the time, Kenyan Drake

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Speaker 1: or Chase Edmonds are seeing so wide open lanes, especially

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Speaker 1: in between the tackles, because when you spread the ball

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Speaker 1: out then and all of a sudden, the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field is wide open. And I think that's where

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are having their most success with moving the

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Speaker 1: football up and down the field. Yeah, and I really think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Christian Kirk ask Cliff about it. I think

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Speaker 1: you know he had something to the vertical game. He's

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Speaker 1: really good on the intermediate routes, and so, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Kyler's trust him. Obviously they played together. He

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Speaker 1: knows the offense. But when Christian Kirk's on the field,

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Speaker 1: there's more balance in the offense. And I think Kyler

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Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks, when you have a number

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Speaker 1: one wide receiver and as we were told, they weren't

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Speaker 1: covering him, so he's gonna throw it in. But now

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Speaker 1: it's not automatic. I mean, you got some other matchups.

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Speaker 1: Larry was more involved than that. I like that. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they're not getting a whole lot of production from their

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Speaker 1: tight ends and maybe you don't have to right now

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Speaker 1: because you got Chase Emmons who can catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: And then you look at Isabella. I still want him

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Speaker 1: to get better ball security. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: Larry and you know Keyshawn Johnson hasn't been active, but

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Speaker 1: we know Trench Serfield you can if you want to

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Speaker 1: go four or five wide before the half or maybe

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Speaker 1: late in the game. He's a guy that's gonna get

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Speaker 1: some playing time. So yeah, I disliked the way the

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Speaker 1: ball's being spread out. One more as far as the positives,

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Speaker 1: at least through the first seven games. As we go

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Speaker 1: over to the defensive side of the ball, and it's

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Speaker 1: this the number of contributions that this team is getting

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Speaker 1: from a number of different players at all three levels

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Speaker 1: with respect to the defensive line, the linebackers, and the secondary.

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Speaker 1: Can't say enough about the additions that were made to

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Speaker 1: this defense in the offseason with regard of the free

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Speaker 1: agent signings of Devon Knard, Dave Andre Campbell, and Jordan Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and then throw and Drake Kirkpatrick who was added during

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Speaker 1: training camp. That is a lot to ask when you're

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator as far as trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: all of those players within your system, which is going

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Speaker 1: into year or two with an existing core group of

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Speaker 1: players a Buddha Baker, Patrick Peterson, Chandler Jones before he

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Speaker 1: got hurt, Corey Peters and getting everyone to mesh together.

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Speaker 1: Yet what have we seen, especially late on prime time

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Speaker 1: Monday night Football, Sunday night football, everyone is figuring out

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Speaker 1: one their role, what they do best and working together

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Speaker 1: as a complete unit. Because I don't think there's just

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Speaker 1: one guy that you can say, all right, he's the

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Speaker 1: reason at this defense right now is amongst the best

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Speaker 1: in what Vance Joseph looks at that is scoring allowed,

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Speaker 1: red zone and third down. Yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's more by committee. Obviously when you lose Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: and you know Kylie Fitz and his son Reddick, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think Cannard has picked up his role

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Speaker 1: even though he's a guy that can set the edge,

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Speaker 1: but I just think the secondary was the strength going

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Speaker 1: in and unfortunately had some injuries. But when you can

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Speaker 1: cover on the back end, you don't need to have

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Speaker 1: just one pass rusher. And the Cardinals have done a

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Speaker 1: better job, you know, stopping teams on third down. They've

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Speaker 1: done a better job in the red zone, force some

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Speaker 1: teams to kick field goals. So but I think when

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Speaker 1: you can cover on the back end, and that's what

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Speaker 1: they want to do well, whether they play a shell

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Speaker 1: zone or a man to man. And when you get

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Speaker 1: production like that from Patrick Peterson, they're a different team.

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Speaker 1: He has been able to get back on track, if

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Speaker 1: you will. That redemption tour that he talked about in

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Speaker 1: training camp. I think it was a little bit low

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Speaker 1: out of the gate. But when you have now number

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Speaker 1: one wide receivers that you know and can acknowledge and

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Speaker 1: then say, all right, he's my guy. And I think

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Speaker 1: we saw that with Amari Cooper, we saw that with

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Those players were not a factor and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Seahawks games respectively, and a lot has to

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Speaker 1: do with Peterson, even though it doesn't always show up

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Speaker 1: in the stat sheet. Yeah, he's got two interceptions. You

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Speaker 1: have to kind of go deeper, dive into the analytics

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Speaker 1: and the next gen stats, and the coaching staff does

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Speaker 1: that not always something the fans can look at. They

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Speaker 1: just see what they see on the field, and specifically

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Speaker 1: the Tyler Lockett first play of the game on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and in the touchdown catch. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: going to get beat as a defensive back. It's how

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Speaker 1: do you respond the next play and the play after that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know dray Kirkpatrick. I know he's had some injuries,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he's got to have better coverage and

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Speaker 1: you know when it comes to him, and they got

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Speaker 1: Prince and Marcal Murro. Now you know, drey has been

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Speaker 1: the guy you don't want to, you know, do too

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Speaker 1: much shuffling. And Prince has been out of football since

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Speaker 1: training camp. So I'm not putting the cart before the horse,

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Speaker 1: but I want to see Drey Kerpatrick. He needs to

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Speaker 1: do a much better job tackling in the open field.

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Speaker 1: I know we're talking about poses, but it's just when

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Speaker 1: I look at that secondary, I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: he's the weakest link because you can jail him back.

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Speaker 1: Then we Deonte's playing It's just he's got to play

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Speaker 1: within the frame of the defense. And I know that

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Speaker 1: when he's the number two corners going and sometimes playing sides,

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Speaker 1: he's going to draw that number one guy. But I

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Speaker 1: want to see him become a better tackler in the

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Speaker 1: open field when teams are running the ball. Overall, when

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Speaker 1: you look at the numbers of this defense, and this

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Speaker 1: is all based on yards, there are number twenty, number

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Speaker 1: twenty five against the run, number nineteen against the past.

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Speaker 1: But what do coaches look at, and I referenced it earlier,

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Speaker 1: Coach Joseph looks at points per game. They are number

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Speaker 1: ten and points allowed twenty point nine. They are number

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Speaker 1: two and red zone defense allowing only twelve touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: twenty seven trips inside the twenty yard line, and then

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Speaker 1: number eight on third down thirty six point eight percent.

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Speaker 1: They are getting teams off the field on third down.

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Speaker 1: Those are the three statistics scoring defense, red zone defense,

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Speaker 1: and third down defense, more so than the yards that

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Speaker 1: are allowed passing and rushing. Yeah, I mean, clearly, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to give up five hundred yards. But that

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Speaker 1: game was back and forth and the Cardinals trailed. They

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Speaker 1: were down by ten and then they obviously did a

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Speaker 1: really good job in the second half, holding the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: at seven points. But yeah, I mean to me points

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Speaker 1: allowed when I say this, and I don't mean it

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Speaker 1: like this. Teams can go. I always say allowed, but

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Speaker 1: teams can go from the twenty to twenty. It's what

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Speaker 1: happens now in the green zone. That's I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: called the red zone, but that's where you make your money.

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Speaker 1: Also on the intermediate route. So you know the fact

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals, and clearly the field gets a lot shorter,

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Speaker 1: so you don't have as much room to cover. But

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Speaker 1: they've done a good job. And it's not so much

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Speaker 1: as sacks. It's you know, making teams one dimension on

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Speaker 1: where they have to run the ball, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, if they want to utilize play action,

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Speaker 1: that's where they can, you know, try to create some turnovers.

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Speaker 1: And let's give them credit because earlier than the season,

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Speaker 1: they weren't forcing any turnovers. And now you know, you're

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Speaker 1: coming off a game against the MVP and you forced

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Speaker 1: some turnovers there in that game, and that's only going

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Speaker 1: Hunday proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, doing a deep dive,

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Speaker 1: if you will, through the first seven games of the season,

649
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: not only looking at the schedule, but also looking where

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: this team stands both the positives and now MJ let's

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00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: flip the scripts area is to improve upon some of

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Speaker 1: which we've already kind of briefly mentioned. And I'll go

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Speaker 1: back to something niche you said, and that is the

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Speaker 1: passing game a little bit more consistent. It's nothing that

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00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: this team is not doing well, but rankings wise, it's

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Speaker 1: an average passing attack. In fact, it's number fifteen. And

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00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: when I say more consistency, I'd just like to see

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00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: more on the same page as far as the deep shots,

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Speaker 1: whether that's a DeAndre Hopkins or specifically and maybe more

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00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: importantly and Andy Isabella. Yeah, I mean, you look at

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Speaker 1: Kyla Murray. He's completing sixty seven percent of his passes,

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00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: He's has thirteen touchdowns, seven interceptions. He's on pace to

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Speaker 1: have four thousand yards and close to a thousand, which

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Speaker 1: is remarkable. But yeah, it's he's been off a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And I do think, you know, I know he didn't

666
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: put up great numbers in the Cowboys game, but I

667
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: thought they found something in the Jets game when it

668
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: came to the passing game. And you know how I

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Speaker 1: feel about Christian Kirk's a He's a vertical threat. He's

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: a guy that can work the numbers, he can work

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Speaker 1: the sticks. And I think when he's on the field,

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Kyler has been able to spread the ball around not

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00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: so much just you know, I and DeAndre Hopkins. I

674
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: thought Larry had a really good game. And when you

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00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: spread the ball around like that, you know, team's got

676
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: to figure out who we're gonna double, how we're gonna

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00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: rule cover joever do we bracket someone? So I think

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00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: they're close, But obviously, you know, Murray has been known

679
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: for accuracy and throwing in the tight windows. I just

680
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: want to see more of that. But I don't want

681
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: him forcing it though. No he shouldn't, and I don't

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00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: think he does. And I'm okay if you get a

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00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: ball batted down or you're thrown into coverage and it's

684
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: a good play by the defense, it's when Larry Fitzgerald

685
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: is wide open in the end zone and you miss them,

686
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: or it's and Andy Isabella is running two deep routes

687
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: and either he ran the wrong route or the throw

688
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: wasn't on targets, and then it's DeAndre Hopkins looking behind

689
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Speaker 1: him because the ball is five yards in a direction

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00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: that he's not used to. That's I want to see

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Speaker 1: cleaned up. And that's what I mean. As far as

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Speaker 1: the passing game being a little b more consistent, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it needs even more efficient. That's a better word. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it needs to be more efficient because we do see flashes,

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Speaker 1: but we want to see more consistency. And any good

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Speaker 1: football team when you have five wins out of your

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00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: first seven games, you have to be more consistent weekend

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: and week out, and I think we're starting to see

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00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: that from the Cardinals. You make a good point though

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: about Christian Kirk he does lead the team with five

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00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns and his fifteen point four yards per catch

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00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: average is number one on the team. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of targets or a lot of catches, but

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Speaker 1: it's what he is doing with those opportunities that I like.

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Speaker 1: And now it's just a matter of him staying healthy,

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Speaker 1: because I do think when you can go three deep

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00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: on your wide receiving corps that is huge because teams

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: will try to take away DeAndre Hopkins or limit him

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Speaker 1: or make sure Larry Fitzgerald not beating them. And as

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00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: we saw on Sunday Night Football with the Seahawks, you

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00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: can't cover everyone. So if your number one and number

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Speaker 1: two options are taken out, well, then that's when Christian

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00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: Kirk can step up, much like a Tyler Lockett did

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinal Secondary. Oh, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the last two games, you

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00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: know he's caught eleven balls for over about one hundred

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Speaker 1: and maybe thirteen yards and he has four touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: that's since he's been back from that groin injury. And

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Speaker 1: I think they're just spreading the ball around. Now you

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Speaker 1: mentioned the targets, I mean he's during the winning streak

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Speaker 1: eighteen targets, twelve catches for two hundred and one yards

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Speaker 1: and four touchdowns. Again, I just think they're spreading the

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Speaker 1: ball around. We're early in the season. Clearly he was

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Speaker 1: looking at Hopkins and I understand if you're not going

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Speaker 1: to cover him in the first two weeks, But it

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00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: looks like more balanced in the offense between running the

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: football and then obviously capitalizing in the red zone and

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00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns versus field goals. Now you look at this

729
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: team defensively and as far as well they can get

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Speaker 1: better at I know a couple of weeks ago, Vance

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00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: Joseph brought up the takeaway while this team is starting

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: to take the ball away and they do come in bunches,

733
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: as the saying goes, and they are doing a very

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: good job of getting to the quarterback. Nineteen sacks, which

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Speaker 1: is top ten in the league, as Son Reddick leads

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00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: the team with five that is tied for eighth most

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Speaker 1: in the league. A lot of different players with multiple

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Speaker 1: sacks a Buddha Baker, Corey Peters, Dennis Gardeck, Devon Knar,

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips. Yet the one name I didn't mention is

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00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is because he's on the sidelines. Done for

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00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: the season with a biceps injury. So you wonder how

742
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: sustainable this is with what the team has done and

743
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: the two games since Jones has been out, can they

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00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: keep getting to the quarterback? And if they are, then

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00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: where does that come from? And I know you want

746
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: to bring up someone we haven't talked a lot about,

747
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: but Marcus Golden is soon to be on this team. Yeah,

748
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: in case you missed it, to Cardinals traded for Marcus

749
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Golden a six round pick in twenty twenty one, and

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00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, he had a really good year with the Giants.

751
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Obviously James Betcher was there. He had ten sacks and

752
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: then he had a sack and a half on that

753
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. So he's he had to go through

754
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: the COVID process. But when the Cardinals get back on

755
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: the practice field next week, I start to wonder he's

756
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: a plugin play guy. Now he hasn't played for Vans Joseph. However,

757
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: he did play for Todd Bowls and he did play

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: for James Betcher, and you know they do play a

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00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: three four, So there's probably some new terminology and language

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00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to go with. But again, there's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback rush him. So now is Hassan Roddick's still

762
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the starter with von Kannard, I think he's earned it,

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00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: but he got a guy like that coming in the game,

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Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna be looked at more of a

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00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: situational pass rusher. Nothing against Dennis Gardeck and Kylie Fitz,

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Speaker 1: but he's your third guy or two and a half.

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00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much he's gonna play. I

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna play sixty snaps at the beginning

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00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: because they like Canard and they're like with Roddick's doing.

770
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: But he definitely will add to the mix. And you know,

771
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he had twelve and

772
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: a half sacks and Chandler had ten and a half sacks,

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00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: they had a really good one two punch and them,

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, were curious to see what happens. But now

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00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: they own his rights to the end of the season.

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00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: And you've got to give the Cardinals credit because you know,

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00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: it rejuvenates the locker room. He's beloved in that locker room.

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00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: We know how he plays with his hair on fire.

779
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: He's got that contagious personality, that smile, and he plays

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: the way the game the right way, So I think

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00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: he'll bring this team some lift. And again they're not

782
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: relying on one guy, so it's it's nice to see,

783
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, sacked by committee. But I think Golden can

784
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: definitely help him in the second half of the season.

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00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: And I think as far as the trickle down effects,

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00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: it is going to maybe reduce the number of snaps

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Speaker 1: of a Kylie Fitz or Dennis Gardeck, although what we've

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: seen from Gardeck especially, he hasn't seen a lot of

789
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: defensive snaps, but when he's on the field at his

790
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: specific past rush situations second and law, third and long,

791
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: and he's very good because it's almost like he waits

792
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: for that opportunity and all that energy and all that

793
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: athleticism slash power that he has. It's it's a small package,

794
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: but what he's able to do with it. He's certainly

795
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: been very effective at getting to the quarterback. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe at the end of this season we're

797
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: talking about X number of sacks, but it's gonna be

798
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: oh the sacks that he missed because he's always been

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Speaker 1: in the backfield but I like you're phrasing as far

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00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: as a group effort when it comes to sacks or

801
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: at least pressures the hurries the knockdowns, much like we

802
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: saw on Sunday with Russell Wilson, just getting him hit

803
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: to make sure he knows that the defense is coming

804
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: after him. And perhaps Marcus Golden can make sure that

805
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: that continues even without a Chandler Jones. Yeah, and when

806
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: you see Guardick going the game, and you're right, it's

807
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: more like you know when they're second and long and

808
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: third and long, and let's be honest, teams look at him.

809
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: He's undersize. They don't think he's a threat, but we

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00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: know he plays the echo of the whistle. He plays

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Speaker 1: with passion, and that's something you don't teach. I mean,

812
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are gifted with talent and they

813
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: feel like they can win a talent but if you

814
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: if you take a playoff, he's going to get around you.

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00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: So I think I think they'll have a nice little

816
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: rotation over there, But I would assume right now the

817
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: top three guys Kennard, Reddick and Golden, all right, the

818
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: last area to improve upon this second half of the season.

819
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Speaker 1: Special teams for me, and it's not a lot of

820
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 1: opportunity as far as the return game is concerned so far,

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Speaker 1: whether that's kickoff return or punt return. Christian Kirk has

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Speaker 1: eight returns for twenty nine yards. That's less than four

823
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: yards a return, and Chase Edmonds has eight kickoff returns

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00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: averaging twenty three yards. And I just wonder. I think

825
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: the covered units are pretty solid. I just wonder if

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Speaker 1: we can't get that, especially the punt return to where

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00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: it's a Christian Kirker and Andy Isabella to put the

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00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: offense into better field position with an extent did run

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00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: and just kind of helping out with an assist if

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Speaker 1: you will. I know, kickoffs a lot of them are

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00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: touchbacks or their corner kicks, so you always want to

832
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: get back to the twenty five yard line. But I

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: think punt return might be if you're looking, and maybe

834
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: we're nitpicking here, looking to improve here over the last

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00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: nine games. Yeah, and you know, Christian Kirk has been close,

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00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: maybe not this year, but he definitely knows to possess

837
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: the ball. He knows the ten yard rule and it's

838
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: just a matter of time. Obviously. That's one unit that

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00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: well there's two units. They wanted to improve on their

840
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: coverage units and obviously get more production from the return game.

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00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: I think Chase Evans has done a good job. I

842
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: think his decision making has been good. And give Jeff

843
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: Rogers credit for, you know, having the kicker kick the

844
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: ball a little bit higher so they weren't able to

845
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: return the kicks. So I like what Chase is doing.

846
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: I think Christian Kirk's close. But again, you want to

847
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: make sure you don't give up those long kickoffs where

848
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: teams are taking the ball to thirty five or forty

849
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: one first down, they're at midfield. Now, let me ask

850
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: you this when it comes to Edmunds on kickoff return.

851
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is expected to miss some time. How much time,

852
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: who knows at this point, but I would certainly not

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Speaker 1: expect him to be on the field against the Dolphins

854
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: come November eighth. If Edmonds becomes you're starting running back,

855
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: do you really want him returning kicks? Is it someone

856
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: else back there? And the event it's a short kickoff, well,

857
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: usually you know during training camp they would have four

858
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: to six guys and probably those you know, those last

859
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: three guys are probably not on the roster or on

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00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: the practice squad. You know, this could be the open

861
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: the door for you know, Benjamin, but he doesn't really

862
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: play on teams, and you know, sometimes you may only

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00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: have three or four kickoffs. You know, maybe it's an

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00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: opportunity for Andy Isabella. He's active on game day. You know,

865
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: he's got to he's got to secure the ball. You know,

866
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: there are times he's gonna have to down it and

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Speaker 1: take it at the twenty five. But you know DJ Foster,

868
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: he's kind of an up back where you know you

869
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: have your two returners. He actually win the balls in

870
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: the air. He goes in front of the so he

871
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: can help block. He does have it. I don't know

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00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: about the speed part, but I think he's really good

873
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: on coverage teams and obviously blocking for the punt returner

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00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: and the kick returner. So that's a good question. I

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00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out. I don't think we're gonna know

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00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: until kickoff. Just you don't want to tip your hand gainsmanship,

877
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: but curious to see what the options are because Isabella

878
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: is active on game day and that means you don't

879
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: have to, you know, call for a guy to be

880
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster. If he's only going

881
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: to do one or two things, well what it's worth.

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00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Isabella is listed as the backup on the depth chart,

883
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: although we know that's unofficial, and I think that would

884
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: be their next option, or at least on the surface

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00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: from our vantage point. He took a ton of reps

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00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: catching the punts and it really came down to Isabella

887
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: and Kirk, and he took a ton of kickoff returns

888
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: during the open portion of practice. Sometimes they do special

889
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: teams early use the jugs machine. So he's had a

890
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: lot of practice and I'm assuming he's gonna get more

891
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: based on the availability if Kenyan Drake is out and

892
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Chase Eemons becomes the bell cow. Again. Maybe a little

893
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: bit nitpicky as far as special teams in some of

894
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: the areas to improve upon, but that's what you do

895
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: here during the bike you self evaluate yourself scout because

896
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: you want to get better. You want to keep this

897
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: train moving along. And five wins is well, it's still

898
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: not good enough. It's great after seven games, but you

899
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: want to be able to maybe double that win total

900
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: now heading towards the regular season finale at the Rams

901
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: on January third, make that game means something. Make that

902
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: game against the forty nine ers on December twenty six

903
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: or twenty seven means something not only for the division

904
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: but for the entire playoff picture in the NFC. So hey,

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00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll take it here in the year of twenty twenty,

906
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: it's certainly been an interesting season so far, off season,

907
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: regular season. But I'll say this after seven games, MJ.

908
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with the twenty twenty Arizona Cardinals, no doubt.

909
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: And you know we were excited in the off season

910
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: and we'd always have to catch it with couch it

911
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: with on paper. Well, now we're seeing the you know,

912
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: the upside when it comes to playing games on the field.

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00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: So they backed it up and they have a more

914
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: talented roster, better personnel than a year ago. And then

915
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: there's a reason why they're five and two. It's going

916
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: to be a very good bye week for everyone, including

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Speaker 1: us here on Cardinals Cover two, because it's always good

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00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: to go in with a little momentum as far as

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00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: in that wind column and the Cardinals on a three

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00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: game winning streak. On that note, let's put a lid

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hunday

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim I'm a hundred for Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greig Riel lou. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.