1 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Welcome on and all to the Hemmer Territory Podcast. My 2 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. It's a pleasure to be with 3 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: you as always, wherever you are and wherever you are listening. 4 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Hope that you were having a great week. And it 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: is the latest edition of the Coleman and Coleman Law Firm, 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: the favorite combination among Braves country. I don't know if 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: that's actually true, but hey, for the sake of the show, 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: we're going to act as it is. And always, Scott, 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time we did back to 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: back podcast together, but good talking with you, sir. Hope 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: that you're having a great week as well. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 2: Hey Sean, good to see you, buddy. And hey, our 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: co hosts man like Steven is out in the middle 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: of the ocean somewhere on a cruise ship, presumably not 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: following the Braves. Good on him, good timing there, Stephen, 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Brad is always traveling. Brad never has two days at 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: home without being on the go again. So yeah, Coleman 18 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: and Coleman show kind of weird last forty eight hours 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: for the Braves. They had a big win on Monday 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: and then they got their butts whooped on Tuesday, and 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: we're also like a week away from the trade deadline, 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: so there's plenty of things happening, even if maybe it's 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: not the standing situation that we're we were hoping for. 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and of course we can't thank you enough for 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: joining us once again, those of you who are consistently 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: listening to the show. Hammer Territory part of the Foul 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts. But let's get into that. We'll 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: get into there were some you know, rumblings, I guess 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: you could say some you know, basically rehashing of kind 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: of known information, but this time from pretty knowledgeable sources. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in just a moment when it 32 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: comes to trade talks. But I do think that it's 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: important to hit on the game real quickly. Of course, 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: as we're recording, we are recording during the game, the 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Braves are losing nine to nothing. But this is kind 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: of being what you should expect in the second half 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: of the season. Scott a litle bit later on the show, 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some things to look forward to, 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: but it's more the inconsistency. It's good to see the 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: offense doing better, but the pitching. Now the lack of 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: pitching depth. The injuries are really starting to catch up, 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: so you're gonna see some high scoring games, but unfortunately, 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: it's still gonna lead to a lot of Braves' losses. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Eight to three last night, nine to nothing tonight. That's 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: probably gonna be the theme for the second half of 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: the season. 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it is a good thing that the 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: offense has woken up a bit. Now. We say that 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: as if they're not in the process of being shut out, 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: or at least the last time I looked at the scoreboard, 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: they were being shut out. But for the most part, 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: over the last two weeks or so, really, since Jerks 53 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: and Profar came back, the offense has been better. I 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: believe the Braves lead the National League and home runs 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: in the month of July, and they were top ten 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: on the whole coming into today. So better. They're still 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: not great, no one, We're not gonna, you know, lie 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: to ourselves and say that all is fixed with this 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: team offensively, but they have been better than they were 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: earlier in the year. But as we all kind of 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: feared when they lost Sale, when they lost Schwallenbach, they 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: lost Smith Shaver, they lose Lopez I mean they're running 63 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: Davis Daniel, Joey Wentz, Bryce Elder as sixty percent of 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: their rotation right now, and even Grant Holmes has maybe 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: started to slow down a little bit as he really 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: hits a high high level of innings pitched for his standard. 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: So it would be very on brand for this offense 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: to figure things out in the second half, just as 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: half of the pitching staff is on the injured list. 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: But I think you have to take the many victories 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: where you can, and if it means the Braves are 72 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: going to score a few more runs and maybe play 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: more of these higher scoring games, even if they're probably 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: not going to win a ton, you take it and 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: hopefully it's something. 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: To build on, absolutely because we all want to see 77 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: the offense going again. Number one, it just makes the 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: game more fun. Number two gives you more error room 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: for error to work with. And number three, that's just 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of how we won games when this team is 81 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: at its best, it's got its offense as is as 82 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: its identity. But just because you know there's not much 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: to talk about in terms of potential winning this season, 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that there's not stuff to talk about. 85 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: And some pretty prominent names. We're talking about the Braves today, 86 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic as well as Buster Only 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: of ESPN. The gist of what they said is kind 88 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: of what we've heard due to the fact that the 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: Braves really have kind of put out there that they're 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: not going to really discuss anybody in trade outside of rentals. 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I know that we talked in depth about a lot 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: of different options on the Trade Deadline show, make sure 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: you check it out, but the Braves have kind of 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: been adamant that they're really not going to talk about 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: anybody other than rentals, and that led Ken Rosenthal Scott 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: to basically say it probably gonna be a quiet deadline 97 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: for the Braves. You're going to maybe see them sell 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: off two or three pieces. You know, as we discussed, 99 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the return on those pieces probably is not going to 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: be anything world changing. But Buster one also went a 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: bit further to say, throw some cold water on some speculation. 102 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Sean Murphy is not available. Basically, Sean Murphy is not 103 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: one that is being discussed. It looks as if the 104 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: Braves are definitely they're kind of putting the same message 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: with him that they did with Chris Sale. He's not 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: going anywhere. What are your thoughts when you hear that. 107 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: I get it, and we can discuss a little bit more, 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: but also just don't want to completely shut the door 109 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: if somebody really comes after Sean Murphy. 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, over the last what three or four weeks, 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: it's been basically the same message from every reporter around 112 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: the Braves locally and nationally with the trade deadline, and yes, 113 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: there are some kind of side pieces that they could 114 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: sell and recoup some money, and maybe a lottery ticket 115 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: prospector too, But I mean, if you read between the lines, 116 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: nobody thinks that Sean Murphy is getting moved. And that's 117 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: pretty significant because you can make a real case that 118 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: Murphy might be a top three bat that was even 119 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: presumably available at the trade deadline. Here as seventy five 120 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: percent of the league finds itself in playoff contention. So 121 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: if folks missed it, Only said pretty definitively, the Braves 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: do not intend to sell Sean Murphy. Now, maybe they 123 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: revisit that discussion in the off season. They might have 124 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: to in order to address some of the other needs. 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: But as Only pointed out, I think, as all of 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: our listeners know, the Braves for years have really valued 127 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: having two good, reliable catchers. Catchers are so hard to find. 128 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: We saw firsthand, you know, they let go of William 129 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: Contreras and Shay Langeliers and the good young catchers just 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: don't grow on trees, and lo and behold, the Braves 131 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: have stumbled into another really good one with Baldwin. So yeah, 132 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm anticipating the next ten days as we approach the deadline, 133 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: are going to be relatively quiet. There might be a 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: little bit of a surprise out there, but frankly, the 135 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: good players are not available and the rental players are 136 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: just not going to command a ton in return. 137 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of split on this. And the reason 138 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: that I say that is because I get every reason 139 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: as to why the Braves want to keep Sean Murphy 140 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: it through this trade deadline. Want to see if this 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: catcher dh combination thing can work, and if it can, 142 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: it's an ideal situation. So many teams I'm sure would 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: love to try it. That makes sense. It makes sense 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: also to keep Sean Murphy around just to make sure 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about Drake Baldwin in a little bit, 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: just to make sure Drake Baldwin is the real deal. 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: You know, Drake Baldwin, maybe he falls off or something 148 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: like that in the second half of the season. You 149 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: don't know, So keeping Sean Murphy around makes perfect sense. 150 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: And lastly, it also makes sense to wait till the 151 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: off season because as Steven and yourself have mentioned, it's 152 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: really hard to implement a successful catching setup in the 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: middle of the season. But also for the Braves, you 154 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: get more trade partners in the off season and that 155 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: can only drive Sean Murphy's value up. So there are 156 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: reasons to keep him. But Scott, you also mentioned this, 157 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: and I think it is such a huge point, is 158 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: that if you're gonna keep Sean Murphy, that is perfectly fine. 159 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: But you've also got to figure out if you're gonna 160 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: keep Sean Murphy lose mar Solo Zuna and you're gonna 161 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: be okay with the DHB and Drake Baldwin. At Murphy's 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: level of offense, you've got to upgrade elsewhere. That's got 163 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: to be a key, and Sean Murphy may be your 164 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: best option to do that. 165 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's fascinating because as we go to 166 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: the off season, if you take a quick stock of 167 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: this lineup. Let's just talk lineup only. We'll set pitching aside, 168 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: but catcher is set. Regardless of what they do. The 169 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Braves are going to be in good shape at catcher, 170 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: first base, locked in, third base, locked in the outfield, 171 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: I think is locked in now. If you want to 172 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: argue that they're not married to Profar, sure, if you 173 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: want to say they might be able to sell low, 174 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: like really low on Michael Harris, I personally wouldn't bother. 175 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: But it is what it is. Acunya. Obviously you're not 176 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: treating Acunya. But that leaves effectively three positions, three of 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: your nine spots in the lineup that you could presumably 178 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: upgrade or need to upgrade this offseason. Second base, shortstop 179 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: in DH. And if you're gonna run with Murphy and 180 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: Baldwin as your catcher DH, I think that's fine. I 181 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: think those two would hit enough because, like scher like, 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: part of why Sean Murphy's really valuable is because he catches, 183 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: and he's an elite defensive catcher, just offensively pure offense. 184 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Murphy is a good hitter, but he's not a Kyle 185 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Schwarber or a Marcelo ZOONA last year level type of hitter. 186 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: But I think it would be fine a Baldwin Murphy rotation. 187 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: It prevents an or it covers you in case of 188 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: an injury. There's reasons the Braves want to carry these 189 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: two catchers, and I think it would be fine as 190 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: a catcher DH. The challenge is that then you have 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: to upgrade your middle infield, and that's a lot easier 192 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: said than done. I'm on the camp short of Ozzy 193 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: Albay's just going nuts these final two months. I think 194 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 2: you have to move on from Ozzy. He just hasn't 195 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: shown us anything in a year plus to show that 196 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: he is good enough. I know he has the cheap 197 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: option on his contract, but he might be a total 198 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: zero next season and this lineup can for that. And 199 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: then shortstop has basically been a black hole offensively since 200 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: Danzy Swanson left, and we know how hard it can 201 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: be to find a shortstop. So this is a real 202 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: decision the Braves are going to have to make. Can 203 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: they upgrade the middle of the infield without giving out 204 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: a ludicrous contract and free agent or could they do 205 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: it without trading Sean Murphy, who is by far and 206 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: away their biggest trade chip right now I don't know, Sean, 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: it is a I would love to have five minutes 208 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: with Alexanthopolis and really just have a true heart to 209 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: heart of where he feels like this organization is at. 210 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: Because I mean, that was a long winded way of 211 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: saying they have some really big decisions ahead of them 212 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: in the next few months. 213 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: And the thing that scares me a bit when you 214 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: were talking about the Sean Murphy Drake Baldwin combination at 215 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: ketcher and DH, I imagined that there are many teams 216 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: Scott out there that would love to implement that strategy. 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: But you said that they may be able to hit enough, 218 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's accurate. I think that that makes sense. 219 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: But this Braves team needs as many potential lie the 220 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: sources of offenses it can get, especially if Austin Riley, 221 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: Michael Harris and Assy Albi's are not what they once were. 222 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: You hope that's not the case, but this year certainly 223 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: is not offering any indication that that's not the case. 224 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: The point that I'm getting at is is that if 225 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: you go with Sean Murphy and Drake Baldwin as your 226 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: DH catcher, they may hit well for catchers, but it's 227 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: not the same level as a DH, and then if 228 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you don't upgrade the middle infield, you're really back to 229 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: square one once again. And that Scott's changed, you cannot 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: afford to keep the potential of this offense at the 231 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: same level as it has been the past two years. 232 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just full stop. You can't run it back. 233 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Can't do it. I mean, that's that feels foolish to me. 234 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the Braves are going to do it. 235 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: If they want to run it back with Michael Harris 236 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: and hope that maybe with a full offseason they can 237 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: do some deep dive on what's wrong with his swinging 238 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: and his approach, maybe they can figure out Michael Harris. 239 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: And if they have a good enough hitting DH, and 240 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: let's say they go get a good enough, a better 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: second baseman, I think you can with a no hitting 242 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: Gold Glove level shortstop with Nick Allen. But that's again 243 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: assuming you can find a good hitting second basement and 244 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: those are not just readily available by any means. 245 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think Nick Allen himself is an asset for 246 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: this team, but he is a winning asset, or he 247 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: is a main asset for a winning team that has 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: the luxury of having a very good glove. This team 249 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: basically cannot just put their hopes on internal improvement while 250 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: also letting Marcelos in a walk this offseason. As to 251 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: the solution for this offense, they're probably going to have 252 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: to go outside the box. They're probably going to have 253 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: to get creative, and Sean Murphy is a pretty obvious 254 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: choice if they decide to do that. But the biggest 255 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: reason why we're talking even talking about Sean Murby with 256 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: the year that he's having being potentially expendable, is because 257 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: how absolutely incredible Drake Baldwin has been. And the good 258 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: thing about it, there are indicators that this just could 259 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: be the beginning. 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What positive should we focus 288 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: on because I know that there's not a lot with 289 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: the big League club. But there's that doesn't mean that 290 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: you still can't find reason to tune in, keep up 291 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: and really enjoy the product that's your season. And first 292 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and foremost, you've got Ronald A Cooonda junior, who's Ronald 293 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: A Counya junior. But perhaps the second biggest reason why 294 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: is one Drake Baldwin. Now we've talked Drake Baldwin plenty 295 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: on this podcast, but I really wanted to dive into 296 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: after his incredible game, one of the best games we've 297 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: seen from the bravest Rooky ever on Monday night. Wanted 298 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: to talk about just how impressive Baldwin has been and 299 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: also some indicators that it could stay like it could 300 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: be maintained beyond this year. Scott will start though, with you, 301 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin. We figured that he had a good chance 302 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: of being pretty good this year. I don't think anybody 303 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: thought he'd be at this level. 304 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Baldwin incredible. And it's not just that he's a 305 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: catcher who calls a good game behind the plate and 306 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: seemingly has the full trust of his pitching staff. It's 307 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: not just the fact that he hits two eighty five 308 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: and has an eight point fifty ops and a one 309 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: thirty five WRC plus. But just everything around Baldwin screams, 310 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm a good player. And his approach at the plate 311 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: for a player who has two hundred and fifty plate 312 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 2: appearances at the major league level under his belt, his 313 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: approach is so good and is at bats, he never 314 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: gives away at bats, they're so complete. He works deep 315 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: into the count, and he's a complete hitter. He can. 316 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: He has some power, like like legitimate hit the ball 317 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: ten fifteen rows, deep power, really good on base. He 318 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: doesn't strike out a lot. He doesn't have a lot 319 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: of swing and miss. Last time I looked, his strikeout 320 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: rate is only fifteen or sixteen percent, which is elite, 321 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: especially when you think about not only the stuff that 322 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: he's seeing on a nightly basis, but also just the 323 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: fact that Baldwin has really high EXI velocities and hard 324 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: hit rates. He is just such an impressive young player 325 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: only twenty four years old. I mean, he's the complete package. 326 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: And I mean I was excited about Baldwin hearing what 327 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: people around the organization were saying in the spring and 328 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: even last year when he was just going crazy down 329 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: in Gwinnett and in the minors. But Baldwin is so 330 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: much better than I thought he was going to be 331 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: as a rookie and man alive. I mean, the Braves 332 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: seemingly have found yet another catcher that's going to be 333 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: a core piece for a long time. 334 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: So I can certainly get where people, you know, they 335 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: see Drake Baldwin having the success that he's had in 336 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: and you know, especially with kind of how several of 337 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: current Braves who were thought to well be on their 338 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: way to be in near the best in the league 339 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: at their current positions, the way that they've kind of 340 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: fallen off over the past eighteen months, I can see 341 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: people being a bit skeptical is this a flash in 342 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the pan when it comes to Drake Baldwin. But there 343 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: are plenty of indicators where that's not the case. I 344 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: don't think that Chris Sayle personally spotlighting Drake Baldwin at 345 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season in spring training. I don't 346 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: think Chris Seal takes the time to do that unless 347 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: he sees something special. And I trust Chris Sell's opinion 348 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: of seeing something special more than most. But Scott, there's 349 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: also the underlying metrics that show he's doing what you 350 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: would expect for him to do, and he does it, 351 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: like you said, in all situations. He's got an eight 352 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: to ninety six OPS against left handed pitching. He's got 353 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: a nine to sixteen OPS with runners in scoring position. 354 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: That's something you don't see catchers his age do usually 355 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: you certainly don't see Braves doing it. But that's the 356 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: big thing also that I'm really encouraged by when it 357 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: comes to his inclusion on the Braves. He helps out 358 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: in areas where we need it. Steven yourself, so many 359 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: of us talked about extending the lineup this winter. We 360 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: thought Drake Baldwin could eventually be that. He certainly has 361 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: proven to be that much quicker than anticipated. 362 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: And I'm really happy and excited that the Braves have 363 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: made this shift with their lineup to get in the 364 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: lineup basically every single game. En sure, he might sit 365 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: every now and then because he needs a breather it's 366 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: hot in middle of the summertime catching and dhing, but 367 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: the Braves have clearly made a shift with their lineup 368 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: to get Drake Baldwin in there every single night or 369 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: close to it. We've talked about the importance of him 370 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: winning the Rookie of the Year award because of the 371 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: draft pick. Obviously, we know we want Baldwin to win 372 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year because he's deserving and that would 373 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: be a very cool achievement for him. But you talk 374 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: about adding another first round pick and the money that 375 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: comes with it. Frankly, the Braves need that if this 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: is a lost season, let's make the most of this 377 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 2: high draft pick. Next summer, get another pick, get more 378 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 2: money to work with, and let's restock this farm system 379 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: because lord knows, if this team is going to continue 380 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: to win divisions and compete for division titles, they're gonna 381 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: need reinforcements down in the minors. Free agency is only 382 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: getting more and more expensive every year. They don't really 383 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: have trade assets right now that they can comfortably give 384 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: away to improve the big league team because the few 385 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: prospects that are worth the dam in the system they're 386 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: probably gonna want to help in twenty twenty six, in 387 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So yeah, I'm glad that Baldwin's having 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: such a good year, such an important player for this team, 389 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: and hopefully health permitting, he can win Rookie of the 390 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: Year and give the Braves kind of an added bonus 391 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: off the field, another indication. 392 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: And put on this what you may, because I know 393 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: it's a short sample size. I won't go into all 394 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: the details, but look at put a few perspectives out 395 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: there on Twitter of just how special Baldwin is being 396 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: at his age and as a rookie. And since two thousand, 397 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: the only players that have done or exceeded what Baldwin 398 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: is doing in his rookie year or in a season 399 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: where they were as young as Drake Baldwin are Brian mccannon, 400 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: Alejandro Kirk, Mike Napoli, Will Smith, and a guy by 401 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: the name of Joe Maller. Those are the only names 402 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: that have exceeded what Drake Baldman is doing right now 403 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: as a catcher, and that's really pressive work. I'm not 404 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: even saying Drake Baldwin's going to be to the level 405 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: of any of those guys. It just means that I 406 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: think there's a good chance he's a good catcher. And 407 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: I'll in with this little on Baldwin. If you go 408 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: through the last thirty to thirty five years of Brave success, 409 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: over the past thirty five years, the Braves have the 410 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: second most productive catching situation in baseball. Only the Dodgers 411 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: have been better. And I would guarantee you that if 412 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: you look at our thirty best seasons, at least twenty 413 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: five of those had a strong catching presence. We saw 414 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: it with Hobby, we saw it with Brian mccannon, we 415 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: see it. We've seen it with Combos as well. But 416 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin when be in a bedrock of this organization, 417 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: this team has had its beeths with a good catcher, 418 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: and Drake Baldwin could be right up there with the 419 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: names that I mentioned. 420 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, life, death taxes, Braves having good catching and that 421 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 2: is something that we should not take for granted because 422 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: there are organizations that have not had good, good catching 423 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: situation and forever we're really spoiled. Just you listed off 424 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: some of the terrific players. And even when the Braves 425 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: don't have a you know, a fringe Hall of Famer 426 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: like Brian mccannon, they got great production out of Travis 427 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: Darnaut and Kurt Suzuki for a couple of years. There's 428 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: really like a valuable kind of rotational catcher like they 429 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: have done such a good job of signing, drafting, developing, 430 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: and utilizing these catchers for years, of course, I mean 431 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: they were in such a luxurious position. They traded away 432 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: William Catreras, who's been one of the better catchers in 433 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: the National League for years. And frankly, I think the 434 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Brewers deserve a lot of credit for that too, because 435 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: Milwaukee is one of those teams that developed catchers well. 436 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I mean the Braves they somehow no 437 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: matter who it is, the names, the faces might change, 438 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 2: but they always find a way to have good catching. 439 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: And that is such an important thing for Major League 440 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: Baseball teams. Front office execs will talk about the importance, 441 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: players talk about it. People who are around the game 442 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: talk about it. It is really one of those positions 443 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: where if you don't have a good catcher, it can 444 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: really bite you in the butt. 445 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: Shout out Johnny Estrada, just random names like that. The 446 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Braves tournament all scars, that's how how good they are 447 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: at it. But Drake Baldwin is not the only reason 448 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: why you should continue to tuo nana not only to 449 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: the Brakes, but the minor leagues as well. We'll discuss 450 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: that in just a moment. 451 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: Nothing beats relaxing on a hot summer day. 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It was the first game the game 477 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: I was at on that Friday, and Riley went out 478 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: of the game with an abdominal injury, and you know, 479 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: Luke Williams all of a sudden showed up at the 480 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: plate and everybody's what's going on. We got an abdominal injury. 481 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: He's not going to be back today. Still feel a 482 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: little bit of discomfort, Probably back later this week. I 483 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: don't think there's much to take away so much of this, 484 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: especially with him coming back Friday, but I do think 485 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: that it's important to note. It's noteworthy that when it 486 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: comes to the Braves, who still have plenty of players 487 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: who they're dealing with injury, especially on the pitching side, 488 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: the rush to get them back, the desire to get 489 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: them on the field, it's not necessarily going to be 490 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: at the same level as if we were trying to 491 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: get to playoffs and contend. I think that's going to 492 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: be a bit of a change up from previous seasons. 493 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, be careful with Austin Riley. 494 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: You don't need to rush him back. Give him an 495 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: extra day, give him extra couple days. Seems like Friday 496 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: is the day the Braves are targeting for Riley to 497 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: be activated, which makes sense. They have a day game 498 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: and early day game on Wednesday, and then they're off Thursday. 499 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: So by not activating Riley today, they probably weren't going 500 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 2: to have him go both a night game and then 501 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: a day game. Give him extra seventy two hours to 502 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: be good. But yeah, I mean, there's no rush. And 503 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: Mark Bowman was talking today about the pitching situation. Now, 504 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: Chris Saale, assuming he doesn't have any setbacks with the ribs, 505 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: can return in the middle of August. Maybe Sale wants 506 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: to go and make a couple of starts down the 507 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 2: stretch just to kind of shake off the cobwebs and 508 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: make sure he doesn't go too long without throwing competitive pitches. 509 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: But like, you know, Sean, does it make sense to 510 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: bring Spence Schwallenbach all the way back in the middle 511 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: of September? You know, like, are you gonna have them 512 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: make five rehab starts and just go from zero to 513 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: one hundred to then make what two starts the last 514 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: two weeks of the season for a Braves team that's 515 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: gonna be out of it. Rinaldo Lopez might be able 516 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: to come back at some point, but similarly, I don't 517 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 2: really see a point Joejimenez might be able to come back. 518 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: But again, you know, like there's a theme here of 519 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: if the Braves are out of the race, and frankly 520 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: they're playing for a draft pick at this point, Like 521 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: that's not a small thing. God forbid, you rush one 522 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: of these guys back, or not even rushing back, but 523 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 2: just bring them back and then they suffer a serious 524 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: injury that hurts them and delays their twenty twenty six 525 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be completely pointless and just not 526 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: worth the risk in my opinion. 527 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, any decisions that you make right now, not only again, 528 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean me and Stephen talked about this last week. 529 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: Not only should everything that you do now be focused 530 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: on twenty six and beyond, it's also should be how 531 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: do we make things better for twenty six and beyond, 532 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: And it's not doing things that don't make common sense. 533 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: For instance, I think they're draft made perfect sense. They 534 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: did the right thing to address clear areas of need 535 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: in their minor league system. Just use some common sense. 536 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: I think the Braves do that just fine, but in 537 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: the public it's been a little bit more questionable here 538 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: as of late. So, but we don't want to get 539 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: into all that. Do you want to get your quick 540 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: thoughts though on the player who has come up and 541 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: replaced Austin Riley, and that's not Cho Alvarez. Now, Nacho Alvarez. 542 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: I feel like that he he's for a few years 543 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: now been talented, is one of the better hitting prospects, 544 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: one of our top three hitting prospects in the organization. 545 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: But I think what we're seeing Scott, I don't mean 546 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: anythink negative towards Nacho Alvarez. I just think that it 547 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: was more of, hey, he had good on base skills 548 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: and that stood out in a minor league system that 549 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: just didn't have a lot of other players that were 550 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: worth noting. I don't think Nacho Alvarez really has a 551 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: lot of potential long term in the majors because I 552 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: just don't know how productive he is going to be 553 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: against major league fastballs. He just does not seem productive 554 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: with them, and if that doesn't change, I don't really 555 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: see how he's going to be productive enough elsewhere to 556 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: really stand out as being a future significant contributor for 557 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: the Braves. Yeah. 558 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had to just blindly predict, not even blindly, 559 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: but just predict what Nacho Alvarez is, I think he's 560 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: probably a utility player at the major league level, a 561 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: bench guy. And of course with the DH the need 562 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: for those utility types has gone away a little bit 563 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: because you're not pinch hitting as much, you're not making 564 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: as many defensive substitutions and moving pieces around. Yeah, you know, Nacho, 565 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: he doesn't do anything exceedingly well, and that can be 566 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: a challenge. Like he's a he's a pretty good athlete, 567 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: but he's not a great one. He has some decent 568 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: hand eye and batted ball skills, but not great. He 569 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of power, his bat speed is 570 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: not great. You mentioned the fastballs up in the is 571 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: somewhere that pitchers attack not show. I will say he 572 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: has really not played very much in twenty twenty five 573 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: because of the injuries. He was called up to replace 574 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: Riley with basically no time to ramp up from I 575 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: believe in oblique injury, so he's young enough that it's 576 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: not totally gone. He does need to work on some 577 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: things this offseason, but I tend to agree. I mean, 578 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that Nacho is anything more than a 579 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: bench piece or someone you can rotate around the field. 580 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: But you know, play him at third, play him at second, 581 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 2: get him some reps in the outfield at some point 582 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: in case he can stick as a fourth or fifth outfielder. 583 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: I think that's probably Nacho's future, And frankly, it probably 584 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: also makes sense to play him down the stretch if 585 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: the Braves are fully out of it, and just get 586 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: him some more reps at the major league level and 587 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: see if he can do anything or show signs of improvement. 588 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you would love for him to work out 589 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: like he would I hope he does work out. I 590 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: hope that there's at a level or an aspect to 591 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: his performance that we've not seen as of yet. It's 592 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: just so hard to find success if you can't hit 593 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: those fastball but maybe more exposure at the major league 594 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: level will unlock that as having some potential for his future. 595 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: So I mentioned the matter leagues before we went to 596 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: the break why the minor leagues. 597 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Well. 598 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: One name that I think bravesmen's are familiar with his 599 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: former first round pick Owen Murphy. He made his twenty 600 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: twenty five debut, as a matter of fact, his first 601 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: debut in fourteen months, coming off Tommy John surgery in 602 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: the Florida Coast League. Today looked pretty good. So you've 603 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: got Owen Murphy back. Jr. Richie is pitching to an 604 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: all star level. He represented the Braves in the Futures Game. 605 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Cam Keminiddi is starting to show signs on why many 606 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: consider him the braves top prospect. Hayden Harris, John Carloslora 607 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: did hear for win Tes. I'm going on and on 608 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: this Braves team. One really really positive factor that can 609 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: come out of this season is not only their young 610 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: pitching being healthy, but potentially their young pitching ending on 611 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: good notes and showing why many hold them in high regard. 612 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: If that can happen, you got two things working in 613 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: your favor going into the Austin more potential assets to 614 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: use in trades to go to field clear needs to 615 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: help you get back to contender status. But also for 616 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: a pitching staff that just unfortunately cannot stay healthy, more 617 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: trusted reinforcements. If there's one big thing besides Drake Baldwin 618 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: to hope for for the future, it's that are pitching 619 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: really shows out in the second half of the year 620 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: to give a status, an asset or something to dive 621 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: into to help address other needs in the offseason and beyond. 622 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are definitely some names in the farm system 623 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: who I think are gaining some real traction as potential 624 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: pieces down the road for the Braves. And you mentioned 625 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: Owen Murphy was throwing the ball exceptionally well last year 626 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: before having Tommy John. He's a kid who has a 627 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: lot of potential, high pedigree. You know, we've seen flashes 628 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: I guess from like Diddy or Funtes who might factor in. 629 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, the Braves are going to need people 630 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: to make starts over the final two months, so maybe 631 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: we see Flintes. I think j R. Ritchie, if he 632 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: continues to pitch well after a recent promotion, I think 633 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: we could see Yer Richie make his Brave's debut in 634 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: the second half of the year. So yes, there's some 635 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: real talent here. Of course, young pitchers, they'll break your heart. 636 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: You think they're going to be great and they just 637 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: don't work out. And then sometimes out of the frickin' 638 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: blue you get a Spencer Swallenbach who just sets the 639 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: world on fire as unknown prospect, but not someone who 640 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: was a top top top prospect on those lists. So yeah, 641 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: there's some talent in the system. I agree with what 642 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: you said earlier. I really liked the process of the 643 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Braves draft this year. I'll let you know in eight 644 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 2: years if it was a good draft or not, but 645 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: until then, I like the way they kind of did 646 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: some underslot deals at the top to add or more 647 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: high school talent, steal them away from the college ranks, 648 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: and you see what happens because the draft is just 649 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: such a crapshoot, and you hope that you strike gold 650 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: on one or two of these kids, you're coming out ahead. 651 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for a farm system that regularly is near 652 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of rankings. Twenty eighteen we had Rookie of 653 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: the Year, twenty two had the first and second winners 654 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: in Rookie of the Year. Twenty twenty four we had 655 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: a top five I believe winner and Rookie of the Year. 656 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: He was at least in the conversation second best rookie 657 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: pitcher and Schwellenbach. 658 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if it was not a history, you 659 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: had schemes, you had Jackson Merrill, you had Cheerio in Milwaukee. 660 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean it was a loaded rookie class last year. 661 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: Some years Schwellenbach would have won. 662 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course you got Drake Baldoman this year. 663 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: You make the point, Scott, you brought it up for 664 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: a farm system that does not appear to it. It 665 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: always appears to be at the bottom of the list. 666 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: They always turn out man. I mean that, Yeah, it's 667 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: weird because I think objectively both things can be true. 668 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: You look at the Braves farm system. You look at 669 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: how the Braves farm system is ranked across the board. 670 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: It's not just one Baseball America, Baseball perspectives, fan Grafts, ESPN. 671 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: Nobody thinks the Braves farm system is anything special or 672 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: that it's been anything special the last couple of years. 673 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: And I think that's a fair assessment. But they also 674 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: are just so good at player too, and they turn 675 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: out Schwellenbach and Baldwin and a couple of years before that, 676 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: Michael Harris was like a fringe top seventy five prospect. 677 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: Win's Rookie of the Year. Spencer Strider was a fourth 678 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 2: round injured college draft pick. In two years later, he's 679 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: lighting up big league gradar guns at ninety nine. I mean, 680 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: the Bridge do deserve a lot of credit, even if 681 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 2: the system is not necessarily viewed in the eyes of 682 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: Baseball America, for example, as one of the better ones. 683 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: There is something to be said for turning out really 684 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: good Major leaguers like Drake Baldwin this year, even if 685 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: they didn't. I mean, if if Baldwin was a top 686 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: ten prospect coming into the season, which is probably what 687 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: he should have been rated, maybe top twenty, does it 688 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: have a different feeling when he sets the world on fire? Probably, 689 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it would have helped in the rankings, for 690 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: whatever those are worth. 691 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Elder was an All Star his rookie year. Was 692 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: it his rookie year? I think that was his rookie year. 693 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm long may have been a second year, but hey, yeah, yeah, 694 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: it may have been a second Okay, that wasn't the 695 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: best thing to end our conversation on tonight, But the 696 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: point is is that when it comes to the Braves, 697 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: things may look bleak major league level may not seem 698 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: like there's many reinforcements they figure right away. They need 699 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: to figure out things at the major league level when 700 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: it comes to offense again. But I do feel like, 701 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: even with the draft being as good of a process 702 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: as it was, I do feel like that if people 703 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: are down on the farm system right now, a good 704 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: second half of the season could really be a big 705 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: boost to where we can once again see some reinforcements 706 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: that could help out next year and beyond even to 707 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: the point of helping us be a contender. Scott, anything 708 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: else from you as we wrape up this edition of 709 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: the Hammer Territory podcast. 710 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Just has to give a big old shout out to 711 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: Luke Williams, who pitched the ninth inning tonight in a 712 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: nine to nothing shutout loss. Good on Luke one two three, 713 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: didn't give up anything to the Giants. Good on him. 714 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've got a bunch of high fives and 715 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: pats on the back in the dugout. But yeah, I mean, 716 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: just hopefully on when folks will probably be listening to this, 717 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: maybe as the game is going on, because it's a 718 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: day game on Wednesday, but hopefully the Braves can win 719 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: the series. I know this is kind of a lost season, 720 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: but at least for me, deep down, I always want 721 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: the Braves to win. But yeah, we'll be back more 722 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: shows we do have. I'm gonna tease it because it's 723 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: already been recorded. We have an in depth episode recapping 724 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 2: the Draft that Brad and Gore of the Deck, friend 725 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: of the Show recorded, so that'll be in your feed soon, 726 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 2: so you get a full on breakdown from people who 727 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: know far more about the draft than Sean and I 728 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: and Brad, which is exciting. I'm looking forward to hearing it. 729 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: I have not heard it yet. And yeah, as always 730 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: winn to lose, good or bad. We'll do shows throughout 731 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: the week and say maybe Sean, me and you buddy 732 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: sometime we might be doing one of those emergency reaction 733 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: shows whenever the Braves inevitably make a trade. 734 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: And you never know who could potentially show up on 735 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 1: the podcast as well. In a year that seems lost. 736 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: Two notes, we may have some special guests that could 737 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: also come on and give their perspective on the Brave, 738 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: some fun on some in depth ones. Will Hey, that's 739 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: the good thing. If you're not talking about winning baseball, 740 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: that opens up the door to get a bunch of 741 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: different perspectives when it comes to the Braves in baseball 742 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: in general. You can find Scott Coleman at Scott Coleman 743 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: fifty five on x slash Twitter, myself at Stat's Sac 744 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: on next slash Twitter. Hamry Territory across all forms of 745 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: social media part of the Foul Territory family of podcasts, 746 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: and I cannot go without mentioning that for those of 747 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: you who are going to be listening or watching the 748 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: show before tomorrow's matchup, it's a pretty good one. Spencer 749 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: Strider versus future Hall of Famer Justin Berlander. I know 750 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: Erlander has not been himself this year, but that doesn't 751 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: mean you still don't really get excited to see him 752 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: on the mound. That's gonna be a good one to see. 753 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: But until next time, go brads. We'll talk to you 754 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: again soon here on the Hammer Territory podcast