1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're on 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So 5 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. 7 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: You know. 8 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well. I hope you're excited to 9 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: hear from me. If you're not, I don't know what 10 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: to tell you. Turn off the podcast to go move 11 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: on with your life. Otherwise you can hang in here 12 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: and stick around, because I think we're going to have 13 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: a very nice time today. I adore the guest today. 14 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 2: She's so funny, just the most spectacular Jamie Lee, Jamie Lee, 15 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 16 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm a thrill to be here. 17 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: How are you? 18 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: I'm doing well? How are you? 19 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing okay? You know, I'm doing pretty well. A 20 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: year in to this whole thing, and I am stronger 21 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: than ever, Just great, feeling great, doing my thing. Have 22 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: truly nothing going on in my life outside of recording 23 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: a podcast once a week and watching the sopranos. 24 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: Okay, those are two big things. Don't understand that. All right. 25 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: It's a great series, and recording a podcast gives you 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: a chance to see people. So sounds like you're you're 27 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: doing the damn thing. I wait, what was the question? 28 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: What am I doing? 29 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: I said, what have you learned from life? What's next for? 30 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: No? 31 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: What have you been up to? 32 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: What if I've been up to? I'm writing still kind 33 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: of writing a little bit on ted Lasso, even though 34 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: we're in production for season two right now. We're doing 35 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 3: some punch up stuff and we just won two Writers 36 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Guild Awards, which was thank you. Yeah, that was really cool. 37 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's yeah, it was. It was fun. 38 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: It's so goofy like with awards. You know, you're supposed 39 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: to be like, oh, you know, that's not why we 40 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: do it, and obviously it's not. But like it is 41 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: nice to get recognition because that happens so rarely. 42 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: You know, Like actually now, I mean, there are just 43 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: so many things it's hard to even stand out at 44 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: this point, let alone get recognized. Yeah. 45 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's just a lot of TV, you know, 46 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: there's just a lot of stuff to consume, so it's 47 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: cool that, like, yeah, it's it's nice when when your 48 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: your thing gets shouted out. It's like, oh yeah, that's 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 3: the thing I work on. 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: So anyways, yeah, now, the w GA Awards were I 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: assume over zoom. Yeah. 52 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was like some yes technically, I mean 53 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: it was like a link we were sent for some 54 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: new technology not called zoom. 55 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: But still at zoom, like the off brand zoom or 56 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: something right right right zoom. 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And the whole the whole ceremony was recorded in advance. 58 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: We were just it wasn't live, Like it was streaming live, 59 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: but it wasn't live. Like every weird thing was pre recorded. 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: Even the acceptance speeches were pre recorded. 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: So odd. 62 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So like my boss and like Jason Sedeikis and 63 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: like they all had like said their speech in advance 64 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: in the event that we won, and they acknowledge that too. 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: They're like, weed, this is happening not in real time, 66 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: but I guess if you're watching this, it means we won. 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh my god, it's just so weird. Yeah, 68 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: really weird. 69 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: Right, And were you aware that? Oh yeah, so no one, 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: that makes no sense. They told every nominee imagine that 71 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: you've won and say what you would say. That almost 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: feels like psychological torture or something that seems total. 73 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: Bit right, Yeah, go through go through the motions as 74 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 3: if you were a winner. You may not be, but 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: just for a second, imagine if you were. 76 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's wild. Okay, So you've been writing a 77 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: little bit, but they're in production now. 78 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're just doing like punch up here and there. 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: What else is going on in your life? 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Then? 81 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: What are you doing with all the other free time, with. 82 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: All the other free time. I'm in New York right now. 83 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm kind of just hanging out. I was living in 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: LA but yeah, i'm here now. I got separated. That 85 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: happened during the quarantine. Okay, sure, so now I'm in 86 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, I have like family here, and I 87 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: just really like being here, especially now that the weather's 88 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: getting nicer. And I feel like COVID is less COVID 89 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: y here a little bit. Yeah. I mean, you know, 90 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: still wear a mask and be safe and all the things, 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: but I don't feel like it has the same sort 92 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: of isolation culture that it has in LA. I feel 93 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: like people are trying to make the best of it 94 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: and go to restaurants and do things that they can do. 95 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean La already is kind of an isolated place. 96 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: Even outside of a pandemic, you can really just totally 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: not see people. So yeah, I feel like New York 98 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: is the place to be right now. 99 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: It's been really nice. Hell yeah, especially now that it's 100 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: not freezing. I've actually I got here when it wasn't nice. 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: I got here the first week of December and it 102 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: was like basically hailing outside. It's like froze and rain 103 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: just every day, and I was like, what am I doing? 104 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: This is insane? But I guess that's a test with 105 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: how much I like New York, because even when the 106 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: weather is just awful, I still appreciate it here. 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: So yeah, And where are you living in New York 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: right now? 109 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm living kind of in the West Village. I'm in 110 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: like a corporate housing apartment, like one of those kind 111 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: of places. Yes, you can see it. I mean, you know, 112 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: the listeners won't won't be able to relate. But I 113 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: do have a very like kind of aggressive accent wall 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 3: behind me right now with very stripes. It's so we work, 115 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: That is so true. Yeah, And it's funny being on 116 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Zoom because I think like when I've had a Zoom 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: meeting here and they're like, I think people are like, oh, 118 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: Jamie really is like into interior decorating, I guess, And 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, this is not this is not representative 120 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: of my taste at all. 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that really represents anyone's taste. Thats right, 122 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: it's just the least so neutral. 123 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: Yes, it's so neutral. It's like it's like a pop 124 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: of something. But yeah, it's not making a strong choice. 125 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: I mean stripes. I guess there's some kind of a choice, 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah, it's not a statement piece. 127 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: A lot of soft grays and then the occasional bright 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: yellow or bright blue. I feel like, is what you're 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: dealing with there. 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, That's exactly right. 131 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: So when you first got to New York in December, 132 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: was it just like total lockdown or were you singing? Family? 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: I it was somewhere in the middle. I wasn't really 134 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: seeing my family much, but my cousin at his apartment 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: has like a roof deck, and so I hung out 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: with my aunt and uncle on the roof deck in 137 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: the freezing cold, like for half an hour and then 138 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: I was like, guys, I love you, but I gotta go. 139 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: This is like, this is not a cool hang this sucks. 140 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, good grief. Yeah that doesn't sound appealing at all. 141 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: And now you have this show coming up that I 142 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: feel like you at a anyone I've ever met has 143 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: such a great knowledge of weddings, and now you have 144 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: a show about weddings. 145 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 146 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: I need to just hear about this experience, because so 147 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: the show looks wild and as somebody, I haven't attended 148 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: that many. I've attended a decent amount of Mormon weddings 149 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: because I'm from Utah, but as far as I just 150 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: outside regular weddings, I've attended very few, and so the 151 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: culture of it is still just mind boggling to me. 152 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: Has I mean, what was the general experience. How many 153 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: weddings did you go to. 154 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: For the show? I went to six different weddings. And 155 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: when I say different, they were, yeah, they really were. 156 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: They were different in size, they were different in culture. 157 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean we really kind of experienced all the things. 158 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: There was like the outdoor hipster you know, wedding in 159 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: the woods where they are where the couple arrived at 160 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: the altar via canoe. So it went. Yeah, it was. 161 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: It's not a really sturdy boat. I gotta say, if 162 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: you got to take a boat ride, canoe is the 163 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: one that will probably tip the most. 164 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: Wait, was the bride and a dress in a canoe? 165 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, I strongly advised against it, but I 166 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: think like someone in the wedding party made the canoe. 167 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 3: So then there was this element of like they did 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: all of this like woodworking for us, so we have 169 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: the canoe. Yeah. So there were those types of weddings, 170 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: but then we also went to a Greek wedding and 171 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: Nigerian wedding. 172 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 173 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah so there, Yeah, it was. It was a 174 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: really really interesting experience. 175 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 2: What this makes me think is I'm just going to 176 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: start building a canoe for every couple I go to 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: the wedding of and then just being like why didn't 178 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: you come in in the canoe. I'm going to try 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: to get as many couples in canoes as possible. I Uh, 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: that seems mild. And now were you all over the country? 181 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: What was the deal there? 182 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we went to weddings, yes, everywhere, several in 183 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: the South one and brought Chester one in San Diego. Yeah, 184 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: we kinda. We kind of trecked wherever we needed to go, 185 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: wherever the couple was. So yeah, this again was pre pandemic, 186 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: so it was very easy to do that. Yeah, this 187 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: was yeah exactly, we didn't care. I spread I spread 188 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 3: that disease all o. I spread it like butter on toast. 189 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: I just really really got it out there. No, this 190 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: was all pre pandemic. When you could actually have a travel. 191 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: Show, right and through the filming of the show, did 192 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,239 Speaker 2: you I have to imagine you winnessed some type of meltdowns, 193 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: some for wedding freakouts. Were there any particularly exciting ones 194 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: I would love to hear about a wedding freakout? 195 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, I mean a wedding freakout. Yeah, I 196 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: mean the whole show is sort of based on wedding 197 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: freakouts of different kinds. So there was like the family 198 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 3: freak out where like the bride, you know, didn't really 199 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: know how to have a tough conversation with her mother. 200 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 3: That's when reality TV and you're like, oh, this is real, 201 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: like I'm actually doing this and it's hard and it's 202 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: not just for television. It's actually just a really awkward situation. 203 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very curious about that aspect of it, because 204 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: you are knowledgeable, and you're also very personable and very 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: much a people person, but like you're also you're the 206 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: star of the television show. So I like, what is 207 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: the agreement made between the wedding party and you as 208 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: it like, we'll turn will literally turn to Jamie in 209 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: times of need. Yeah, this is exactly. That's so much 210 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: pressure for you. I would lose my mind. 211 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. There there was the turn to 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: Jamie in times of need. But luckily there was a 213 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: feeling because when I got married, I love how I'm 214 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: like going to be a divorced wedding coach. It's very funny. 215 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, you, miss, you have become the divorce coach. Next 216 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: she'll be the divorce coach. 217 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, unfortunately, especially in American wedding culture, 218 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: the wedding is almost so separate from the marriage that 219 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: I think, whether you're divorced or in a marriage, you 220 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: can still be a wedding coach if you have gone 221 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: through a wedding, which I did. But yeah, I think 222 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: because my wedding planning experience was so it had so 223 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: much turbulence and was such a tough time in my 224 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: life that I really wished I had had someone who 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: is kind of, you know, non biased or unbiased. I 226 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: don't know which word that is, but like someone who 227 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: could just come in and be objective and just be 228 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: a shoulder to lean on, who kind of had no 229 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: real skin in the game. Like they're not a family member, 230 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: they're not trying to be part of the wedding party. 231 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: They're just kind of neutral and they can be there 232 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: for you to kind of shoulder some of the burden 233 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: and a wedding planner. I think they do that to 234 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: a large degree, but they are someone you're paying, so 235 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: there's something nice about the Yeah, they have skin in 236 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: the game. They have made your skin in the game. 237 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: So I think it's kind of fun to just have 238 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 3: someone who's a sort of unofficial expert just be there 239 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: for you if you need us. 240 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: Right right, I was thinking about, I mean, divorce parties. 241 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: I know at some point we're kind of becoming a trend. 242 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: Have you Are you familiar with this? 243 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: I am I've never been to one. Have you been to? 244 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: It feels like a myth to me. I feel like 245 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: I read about one in time, like in twenty eleven 246 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: and they like, they're like, this is the new trend. 247 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I don't. I mean, I can't imagine 248 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: that that's a real that that's happening that often. 249 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean, as someone who's going through it or will 250 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: be going through it. I'm still separated, I think that. Yeah. 251 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 3: I mean, look like, if something is ending, there's a 252 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: reason for it. And I definitely think it is nice 253 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: when people say, like when they hear that that's happening, 254 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: that they say like, oh, good for you. Like I 255 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 3: appreciate the positive response because I think that it's a 256 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: lot of pressure when someone's like, oh, are you okay, 257 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: and it's like, I think I am, but your reaction 258 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: is making me wonder if I real. 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I think usually a breakup or a divorce 260 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: is because things aren't working, and the hope is to 261 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: make things work for each person individually and they can 262 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: move on with their lives. I think that's a great thing. 263 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 3: I do too. And yeah, it's interesting. Most people have 264 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: been more joyful than filled with pity, but the few 265 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: that kind of you know, oh that stuff. Yeah, anyone 266 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: listening who's who's a friend in that situation, just be 267 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: excited for them. It's way easier. It's way easier for them. 268 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, the bad thing is going away and 269 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: we're moving on the divorce party though. I just don't 270 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: see that. I mean hopefully, so if someone wants to 271 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: invite me to their divorce party, be my guest. I'm 272 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: happy to al though, but I just don't see that 273 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: happening for many people. Do you watch ninety Day Fiance? 274 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: I have, Yes, Well, we watched a lot of it 275 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: at the beginning of the pandemic and now have come 276 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: full circle and our watching it again, and that show 277 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: feels like a you know, wedding and divorce city, and yeah, 278 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: what's your experience with it? 279 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: I can't remember which season I watched, but I yeah, 280 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean it was riveting. I remember the couple. I 281 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: think it was like the woman. I mean, this is 282 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: probably a lot of them, but like the woman came 283 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: over from a foreign country and the guy is kind 284 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: of like not willing to like change his life for 285 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 3: her in any real way, and then she's just like 286 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: pouting on the edge of the bed and he doesn't understand. 287 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: And they live in like a one bedroom apartment because 288 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: he is not a catch. 289 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, I've seen I've seen it myself. 290 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: That's definitely a bunch of the episodes. 291 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 2: Right, you've just described every couple on that. Yeah. The 292 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: one I'm watching right now, there's a woman in I 293 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: think Nebraska who her fiance is from Turkey and does 294 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: literally doesn't speak a word of English. Their only connection 295 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: is they're beekeeping, and it is the most frustrating thing 296 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: to watch in the world. 297 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: I think I have seen that one. 298 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: What is this connection? Truly? What's happening here? 299 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? That shows that shows that's a battle. If you 300 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: don't like reality television, I would say start with ninety 301 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: Day Fiance. 302 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: That's because right, like, I didn't watch a lot of reality. 303 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: Me neither, I'm really I mean, I made a reality show, 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: but I am not a huge consumer of reality shows, 305 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: and Ninety Day Fiance I feel like, bridges that gap 306 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: for a lot of people. 307 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why it is. I think it's 308 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: because it is such a just wild thing to watch. 309 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: It's just the most inherently bizarre thing to put on television. 310 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: Well, there's also the thing and I felt this with 311 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: my show as well, like it is really comforting on 312 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: some level to see how other couples get by and 313 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: interact and like what their dynamic is, and it kind 314 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: of either like I don't know, I think it sort 315 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: of is validating because you can watch people like having 316 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: arguments and having tension and you're like, oh, okay, I'm normal, 317 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: like you know, like I mean, Breandon, I think I'm 318 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 3: normal compared to most people on Ninety Day Fiance. But 319 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: I mean, just in general, I think it's just riveting 320 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: to watch real couples kind of like in the wild, 321 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 3: like doing their thing and what that actually looks like. 322 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Just to see humans interacting with each other. Yeah, boy, wait, 323 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: did we even say? Did I even say the name 324 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: of your show? I feel like I'm gonna have a 325 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: lot of listeners like, what's the name of the show? 326 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: Why do you say? 327 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Going on? 328 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, people are always I'm very bad at naming things 329 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, and the listener just has to be 330 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: patient with me. Don't write into me. I'll tell you 331 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: the name of the show. It's called The Wedding Coach. 332 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: There you go. Now, you don't have to write into me, 333 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: but you can write in and ask anyway. I don't know. 334 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: We all have to live our lives, Jamie all that aside. 335 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: There's something way more important I need to talk to 336 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: you about. Okay, I'm not thrilled to talk about this. 337 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm not comfortable, but I feel like while I have 338 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: you here, I might as well just get into it. 339 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: The show is called I said no gifts. Everyone knows 340 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: that this is a podcast with a I mean, very 341 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: few podcasts just have the rule right in the title there. 342 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: That's fine. A few weeks ago, you agreed to be 343 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: on the show, and I was so excited. I thought, 344 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: you know what, I love Jamie Lee. She's wonderful, she 345 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: knows about gift giving, she's you know, it was kind 346 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 2: of an expert in the subject. This is gonna there 347 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: will be no speed bumps, there will be no difficulties here. 348 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: And then a couple days ago, uh, something showed up 349 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: at my house in a bag and it was from 350 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: Jamie Lee. And I so immediately, as you know, a 351 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: lot of things go through my mind. Is it my birthday? 352 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: And I forgot is there some other occasion that people 353 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: are celebrating regarding me. No, nothing is happening outside of 354 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: you being on this podcast. So then the next emotion 355 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: is anger. I dealt with that, and now I'm just 356 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: going to I'm going to confront you. Oh wow, okay, 357 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: is this a gift for me? 358 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 359 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: Okay, well let's look at it. Let's take a look. 360 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: It's a little bag here. It looks like it has 361 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: some reindeer on it. Okay, deeply out of season. 362 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't pick that bag. I 363 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: didn't pick that bag. But you know, you could think 364 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: that maybe they were lamas, which is the truthual samas 365 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: with little things on their head that look like antlers. 366 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: But never mind, never. 367 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: Mind lamas who have gotten caught in some branches or something. 368 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 369 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm willing to accept that. And then some pink tissue. 370 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: What do you think should I open this here on 371 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: the show. I'm willing to do it privately. I mean 372 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: if no, no, no, I think you should open it now. 373 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 4: Okay, let me get into this, okay, and let. 374 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: Me what is this? I'm immediately putting my hand into it. 375 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: This looks like some sort of puppet or something. 376 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a huge dog toy. 377 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: I was going to say this was either a dog 378 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed dog toy or a puppet. Yeah, but why 379 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: not both? 380 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's What's fun about it though, right, is that 381 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 3: it can really be anything you wanted to be. 382 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: What is happening? I demand answers immediately. 383 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so fun story about this, about this dog toy. 384 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 3: I have a friend who Okay, so I grew up 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 3: in Texas and I was not raised religious at all, 386 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: but I am Jewish and I have this friend who 387 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: I think like she's like obsessed with my being Jewish, 388 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: like truly, like in a way that I'm like, I 389 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: have a lot of pride, but the way that she 390 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: the way that she focuses and fixates on my Jewishness 391 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 3: is honestly, it's like a little alarming. 392 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: Like Jewish. 393 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: No, oh, okay, this she knew. Yeah, I don't think 394 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 3: she knew a lot of Jewish people growing up, but 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: I've noticed, like I think for it was for my wedding. 396 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: I think her gift to me was like a kosher cookbook, 397 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I've never in my life cooked kosher. 398 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't keep kosher. And like then she one time 399 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: came to my house and it was when I first 400 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: got my dog, Dennis, and he was poppy, and she 401 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: was like bringing him presents because she was meeting him 402 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: for the first time, and she gave me this chicken 403 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: that you're holding. 404 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: It checks like an alligator throwing up blood. That's that's truly. 405 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 3: Are you getting alligator throwing up blood. 406 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: Spewing out of the mouth of the But now I'm okay, 407 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: Now it is a chicken turned this it's kind of 408 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: like the is it a lady? Is it a young 409 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: lady or an old lady? That old illustration right right 410 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: right right right? A younger or an alligator with stomach issues? 411 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, with bellels coming out. But anyways, yeah, so 412 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: she she brought me this chicken and it like it 413 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: looked the beak is now missing, but it looked like 414 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: an anti Semitic propaganda like it looked like like like 415 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 3: anti Jewish like war propaganda. And I was like, this 416 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: is insane. Also, whoever makes these dog toys has has 417 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: something against Jews on some level. And anyways, my dog 418 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: like bit the beak right off of it like he had. 419 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: He was like in my corner. He was like, oh yeah, 420 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: he was. 421 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: He was. He was like, this is offensive. I don't 422 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: like it, and I'm ripping it off. 423 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: So dog belongs to the Anti Defamation. 424 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: League, he does. He does. 425 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, so this friend, I'm so curious. How long 426 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: have you known the friend? 427 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 3: Like twelve years? 428 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: This is an interesting way to approach I feel, I 429 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: guess people as someone who was raised Mormon, I I've 430 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: and now live I live in LA. People's sensitivity or 431 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: lack of sensitivity to religion is always an interesting thing 432 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: to watch it unfold. It's uh so true. But this 433 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 2: your friend. I'm just trying to wrap my head around 434 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: buying one of my Jewish friends a kosher cookbook for 435 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: any occasion, and what I would think the expected reaction 436 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: would possibly be. 437 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: One hundred percent? Yeah, even if I did keep Koscher, 438 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: I don't know that I need that, Like, I don't know. Yeah, 439 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 3: I totally agree with you. 440 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, so and so you've just decided to give 441 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: me some antisemitic trash. 442 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: Yes that no, former, No, you're see you're not seeing 443 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 3: the silver lining. You're you are now the proud owner 444 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 3: of like this, this thing that meant so much to 445 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 3: my dog, and my dog means so much to me, 446 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: So that means you mean so much to me. So 447 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: that means that the gift means so much to you. 448 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: Do you understand? 449 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Yes, I absolutely understand you're is your dog with you 450 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: in New York? 451 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? Actually he's sleeping right behind me. Wait, hold on 452 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: this tilt down and that's Dennis. 453 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: Oh what sort of dog is Dennis? He's he's a labordoodle, 454 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: always adorable. How old is he? 455 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Now? 456 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: He's six? Now see that that is also that that 457 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 3: toy is six years old. Is vintage, So you guys, 458 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: it's also vintage. 459 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: Before it came to me, is it sitting in a 460 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: storage bin? 461 00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: It was in a drawer. 462 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. Well, I want a gift receipt. That's 463 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: let's just be honest. I'm taking this back. Oh wow, 464 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: that's that's really wild. Have you received? 465 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: Is this one of the best gifts you've ever got? 466 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: This is an excellent gift. This is let's just be honest. 467 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: This is number one. This is not this will be 468 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: going on my mantle or I'll get it framed. It's 469 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: hard to see. 470 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: You can also dust with it. You could, you could 471 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: wash a window with it. Honestly, it's so versatile you 472 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: don't even know. 473 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: I will say, uh, the person who dropped this gift 474 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: off did say call me after the episode, uh for 475 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 2: me to come pick the gift back up, and I 476 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: don't know if that is information he was given. And 477 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm happy to I was like, oh, 478 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: it must be something. I mean, I'm also happy to 479 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: return this to you. But maybe there was. 480 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: That is hilarious. 481 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: Do you want it back? I need to know. 482 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: No. I mean, I still think it's an amazing gift, 483 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: but no, I don't need it back. I don't. I don't. 484 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: You know what. You can keep it. You can keep it. 485 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: It's a little fun fact about me. If I give 486 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 3: you a gift, it's yours. That's the one unique thing 487 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: about That's what Yeah, that's what's different about me. 488 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: Now, have you received any more gifts from this friend 489 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: since the chicken? 490 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? But nothing. There was just a streak there of 491 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: Jewish skewed gifts and also comments. There were some comments 492 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 3: I just think she Melanie hits her so funny, that 493 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 3: is her name. No, but I I yeah, there were 494 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: just some comments a long way. But also I just 495 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 3: kept being like, well, she's from a small town, like 496 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: she didn't grow up with many Jewish people, so like, yeah, 497 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: I did that sort of. I just sort of chalked 498 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: it up to that. But yeah, I think it was 499 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 3: the one two punch of the cookbook and then, as 500 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: we called it in my house, jew Chicken. I think 501 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: it was those two things back to back where I 502 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: was like, what's going on here? 503 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: I didn't realize you're from you were from Texas? What 504 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: part of Texas are you from? 505 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: I'm from Dallas. 506 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: This feels like a good opportunity for me to talk 507 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: about something I've been wanting to talk about for a while, 508 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 2: which is this my favorite Instagram celebrity. I think she's 509 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: from Dallas. Her name is her Instagram name is Turtle 510 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: Creek Lane. You're probably not aware of who this is. 511 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: Well, I know where Turtle Creek is. 512 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh you do? 513 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? Wait? 514 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: Can I look her up while I'm on Oh please do? 515 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 516 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, you will. I think you'll immediately know 517 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 2: why I'm such a fan of this person. 518 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay, I feel like. 519 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: It's maybe not the right word, but such a Turtle Creek. 520 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 3: This person, Turtle Creek is like a really beautiful area 521 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: in Dallas. Hold on, Turtle Creek. What was it? Turtle Creek? 522 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: Lay? 523 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she comes right up. Oh okay, hey, don't 524 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 3: mind if we do Okay, now we're cooking of gas. 525 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: This is a blast. What is happening. I don't even 526 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 3: know how to describe this. 527 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: I mean, the first thing that comes to mind is teeth. 528 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: There's a there's just a I mean, God, bless this person. 529 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: I don't know her, and I'm I'm sure she's an 530 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: absolute ray of sunshine and everyone in the lives of I. 531 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: Mean guaranteed, guarantee she's a ray of sunshine. 532 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: That said, I can't. I've been following her for quite 533 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: a while now and I have yet to really be 534 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: able to pinpoint what the situation even is. 535 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: It's I it's frustrating. The instagram is such a visual 536 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 3: medium because I really wish that everyone who's listening to 537 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: this please go to this instagram immediately and you'll understand 538 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: it is going to be like following along like we 539 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: were watching a movie on a podcast, that this is 540 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: the equivalent, Like now is the time where you go 541 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: to the Instagram. 542 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to go. I want to see what her 543 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: most recent thing is. And for the listener, just a little. 544 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: Her name is jen A Hutton or Hufton or something. 545 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: She's a you know, a deeply blonde kind of influencer 546 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: as she's a mom. 547 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: Teeth is white as snow. 548 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: Teeth is white as snow. I mean the enthusiasm, the 549 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: it's just like being blasted in the face by sunshine. 550 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: She's constantly decorating her home. That's kind of her thing. 551 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: Every holiday that every holiday that she celebrates, her home 552 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: is kind of turned into a disneyland of objects that 553 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: she found in the decorating section at Target. And so, 554 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: you know, for Christmas, the the house looks kind of 555 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: like mid transformation Beauty in the Beast Castle, if that 556 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: makes any sense. It's, uh, there's just kind of decaying cupboards, 557 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: but purposefully decaying. Uh, there's just you know. 558 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: There's like a Peter Rabbit diorama. 559 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: Do you see, yes, of course, And oh. 560 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's like an Easter room. 561 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: Right, and it's not just you have to be you 562 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: have to know with Jen it becomes an Easter house. 563 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: It's uh, the porch becomes Easter. Every element becomes part 564 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: of the holiday. She had like a forest for Christmas, 565 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: then she turned off our Christmas trees into Valentine's trees. 566 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: It's oh, I see that, yes, she yes, I see 567 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: the Valentine's tree. Where it's those candies with writing on them, 568 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: and she has like giant versions of that, so they're 569 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 3: like huge candy with words ornaments, right. 570 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: And more recently, I believe yesterday her house flooded, so 571 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: that was good. You know, you're getting caught. A friend 572 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: of mine, when I first discovered gen I sent her 573 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: to him and he did make a good point, he said, 574 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he was very much on the same page, budd. 575 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: He said, if I were in her presence, I would 576 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: Jamie's showing me a picture of her right now, and 577 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: it's just incredible. I don't even I can't. I there's 578 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 2: just it's a difficult thing to describe. You have to 579 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: go to her Instagram and you know, let's all be 580 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: nice to her. I'm sure she's a nice person. But yeah, 581 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: my friend made the point of like, I think if 582 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: I met her, I would be I would be one 583 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: over immediately. I think she's the sort of person with 584 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: dis enthusiasm that's infectious. She's also like got hundreds of 585 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: millions of dollars. I've you know, I've done a light research. 586 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: Her husband's extremely wealthy. 587 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Well what's the what's the money? 588 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: I feel like is like in some sort of financial 589 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: stocks or something. 590 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 591 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: And then she's obviously making a fortune off of advertising 592 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: a billion things on her on her Instagram and then. 593 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: She she's like six hundred thousand follow us. 594 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: Right, She's extremely popular. And it's just it's something that 595 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: I am still months after following her, struggling to wrap 596 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: my head around. I mean, maybe someday I'll fully understand. 597 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: I think she's a positive person and. 598 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: Well, no, what did you read her bio? Okay, okay, okay, 599 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: the most positive place on that on Instagram. 600 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: But I think she you know, she must turn it 601 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: to eleven. But I think she's probably a decent person. 602 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: There's no there's no saying. It's just you have to 603 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: look at it. Her Instagram stories. Every morning she does 604 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: a thing where she says, good morning, let's say something 605 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: more thankful for, and then she says something she's thankful for. 606 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: It's just a rollercoaster going at a thousand miles an 607 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: hour every day with Jen. And I'm so glad to 608 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: finally have an opportunity to bring it up on the podcast. 609 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,239 Speaker 3: Oh. I mean, you know, as you're just saying that, 610 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: I was thinking, Okay, what if what if this happens? 611 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: What if she watches the wedding coach becomes a fan. 612 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: I go home to Dallas to see my parents, and 613 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: I schedule like a meetup with her at her house 614 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: and then I send you. Then we then we take 615 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: a video together and we send it to you from 616 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: inside that gorgeous foyer. 617 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: Can we please get Jamie inside the Turtle Creek Lane? 618 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Manor that's all I want. 619 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 3: It will be a goal for twenty twenty one and 620 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: maybe twenty twenty two, depending on how long it takes 621 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: for me to fulfill it, but it is. It's on 622 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 3: the vision board. I'm not gonna lie. 623 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: Growing up in Dallas, did you see this sort of personality? 624 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: I feel like this is a very like a deeply 625 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 2: Texas thing, right, like this giant personality, and like there's 626 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: the money to support it? Is that? Yes? 627 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: And the blonde the blonde at all? I yes? When 628 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: I went to college, I went to Universe, I went 629 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: to college, coreat Guys, I went to college. But when 630 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: I went to the University of Texas, I am a 631 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: brunette woman, and I felt so much pressure to dye 632 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: my hair blonde because there were just so many like 633 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: gorgeous blonde tan women at my school that I felt 634 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: like I just looked crazy in comparison. So, yeah, looking 635 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: at this woman, what's her name, jen? 636 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 637 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: Jen? 638 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 2: I can't remember how to pronounce her last. 639 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 3: But looking at yeah, looking at like just yeah, everything 640 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: about her is very Dallas, Texas. It's very Texas, and yeah, 641 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 3: it's fascinating. 642 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been an interesting watch, especially during the pandemic, 643 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: when you know it hasn't been the easiest times for 644 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people, and then to watch this person 645 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: like she's like thriving, right, I just spent fifty thousand 646 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: dollars on Valentine's decorations or whatever. It's a little like 647 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: maybe she also. 648 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 3: Her whole thing is decorating her home, and if you're 649 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: at home a lot during the quarantine, it's like kind 650 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 3: of the best for her. It's just like more time 651 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: for more time for projects. I don't want to I 652 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: don't want to assume. I don't want to assume, but 653 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: just going off of the Instagram, yeah. 654 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we hope that old Jen is actually I 655 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: don't what am I saying? That she seems like a 656 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: bit of a maniac, and maybe that maybe she embraces 657 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: the mania, the absolute wildness of it all. But I'm 658 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: so happy to finally get that out and just talk 659 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: about it because I adore her and hope that she 660 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: continues to produce content for ages to come. Uh. But 661 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'll tell you something you're not going to 662 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: get from Jen is chewed up dog toy. 663 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: No. 664 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: I feel like she allows dogs in her house. 665 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: She's going to take it too much. She does. 666 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's. 667 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: The one thing about this person where I'm like, you 668 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: would have, you know, when her house is flooding, she's thrilled. 669 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: When she's laughing and smiling. There are a lot of 670 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 2: the I've seen a few times with Turtle Creek Lane 671 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: where she's had like life crises where I'm like I 672 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 2: would have at an absolute meltdown and she's instagram story 673 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: ing it. She's out there like she's probably ankle deep 674 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 2: in sewage and she's smiling and laughing and like, you guys, 675 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 2: look at this. So it's very It's just a whole 676 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: other world for me. 677 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 3: It's inspiring, is what you're saying, Absolutely speak deeply inspiring. 678 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jamie, I feel like we should play a game. 679 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game? Do you want 680 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: to play a game called Gift Master, or a game 681 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: called Gift. 682 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: Or a curse, Gift or a curse. 683 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I need a number between one and ten from you. 684 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: Six. 685 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some light calculating while I 686 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 2: do the calculating. You promote something, you recommend something, you 687 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: sing a song, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 688 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds great. Okay, promote something. Okay. I have a 689 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 3: shown Netflix. It's called The Wedding Coach. You should check 690 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: it out. I have a different comedian with me every episode, 691 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 3: and we have a lot of really funny people on it, 692 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: Matteo Lane, Fortune Fimester, Punky Johnson. It's a really good group. 693 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: You can follow me on my Instagram. It's not as 694 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: good as Turtle Lane. I don't curate it as hard 695 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 3: as Jen does, but that's at really Jamie Lee and 696 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: I would say follow me on Twitter, but I haven't 697 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: tweeted in a long time, so I feel like I'll 698 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 3: probably just disappoint you if you go. 699 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 2: There, Jamie perfect, Yeah, okay, great, I mean no, let's 700 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: all just get off of Twitter. It's just I'm so 701 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: tired of this. 702 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: I know, I miss I used to love it. I mean, 703 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: I really loved those days of like coming up with 704 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: jokes and you were so you were so great on Twitter. 705 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: You were like a highlight of Twitter. Oh my god, Yeah, 706 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: you killed me on there. 707 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 2: It's I think it's time to just shut it down. 708 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 2: It's uh, every time I get on and I feel 709 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: like ash is raining from the sky. It's just such 710 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: a negative thing for. 711 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: It is it is. Yeah, there's not that Instagram is 712 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: you know, good for our brain. But there is something 713 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: that feels lighter about it. 714 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't feel like a just an immediate burden exactly. 715 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: All that said, let's play gift or a curse. This 716 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: is what happens. I'm going to name three things. You're 717 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: gonna tell me if there are a gift or a curse? 718 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: And why I know the thing is is there are 719 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: correct answers. So you can fail, okay, and you know 720 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: the listener will lose respect for you, you'll have a 721 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 2: harder time, et cetera, et cetera, So just share share Okay. 722 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 2: First up, this is a listener suggestion, gift or a curse? 723 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 2: Family heirlooms. 724 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say curse. 725 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: Okay, why I think it's. 726 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,919 Speaker 3: A curse because if something were to happen to them, 727 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 3: there would be a lot of guilt because it could 728 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 3: be something that's not even like that like on paper, 729 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: worth a ton of money or something, but because of 730 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 3: the attachment to family, like it feels like a big 731 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: responsibility to have it. Also, if it's the other way 732 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: where it is really expensive, you feel kind of fucked 733 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: up about like wanting to sell it. 734 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 2: Right right, Okay, Well, I mean, what can I say. 735 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: You're off to a very good start. I think they're 736 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 2: absolutely a curse, and I'll tell you. I mean, maybe 737 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 2: my logic's a little different. I just think a family 738 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: heirloom is literally cursed. I feel like if you've got 739 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 2: an heirloom, there's some sort of sorcerer or something has 740 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 2: place to curse on the object. It's going to bring 741 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 2: you bad luck. You're also just kind of burdened with 742 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: maybe something you don't really care about unless you're going 743 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: on Antique's road show. What are we doing with it? 744 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 3: What are we doing? 745 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: What is an What is a family heirloom in the 746 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: first place? I can't even all I picture is a 747 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: cursed mirror or you know, like an emblem or something 748 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: that's been passed down and is kind of haunting you. 749 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, my mind went to like a giant 750 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 3: ship in a bottle. 751 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: Right, cursed. There's an absolutely that has some sort of 752 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 2: evil spirit in it, right, just like literally a cursed object. Okay, 753 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 2: good job number two. This is also a listener. Oh actually, 754 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: now let's just say all of these are listeners suggestions today. 755 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: Second up, gif you a curse working for a family member, 756 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: and that's from our listener named oh Olivia, and I 757 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: should give credit to family heirlooms to someone named Rebecca. Congratulations. Okay, 758 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 2: Olivia wants working for a family member though. 759 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 3: Such a curse, such a curse, I mean, oh god, yeah, 760 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: I mean my parents work together, and I was always like, 761 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: oh God, like you guys need your really me to 762 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 3: have like your separate things. But yeah, no, I just 763 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: think the power dynamics could get really weird. And then 764 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: there's like money, and I don't Yeah, there's money. That 765 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: makes sense, Jane, there's money. There's money, but yeah, just absolutely, 766 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 3: I just think it's Yeah, I shiver, I shiver at 767 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: the thought of working with a family member. What do 768 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: you think, I. 769 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: Don't think, I know, I mean, what do you know 770 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: what do you YEA Working for a family member, of course, 771 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: is a curse. Working for anyone is a curse. Working 772 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 2: is a curse. But working as a curse we bring 773 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 2: in the familial we bring in. I feel like you 774 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: are just absolutely asking for it. You do not want 775 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: money between you and a family member. Also, you don't 776 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 2: want to spend that much time with a family member. 777 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: You want somebody that you can have an ice clean 778 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 2: cut with if things go south. Working for a family member. 779 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: You know, I worked at a I mean, this is 780 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: the closest I've come was. I worked at a bakery 781 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: cafe right out of high school. My younger sister was 782 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: an employee. I was the manager. Even that the pressure 783 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 2: was too much. We're getting in fights. She's not my 784 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 2: opping the floor enough, and I'm irresponsible. It's too complicated. 785 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 2: You don't want to work for a family member. I mean, 786 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: look at the property brothers. We know there's a lot 787 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: of tension there. 788 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're hanging on by a threat when the 789 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 3: cameras aren't rolling. 790 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: I mean, they are at each other's throats and we 791 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: all know it. I guess technically, do they work for 792 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: each other? It's hard to say to the property or 793 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: do they work together. I don't know. Property brothers don't 794 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 2: reach out to me. I don't want to hear from you, 795 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 2: but I do. I will say, curse, you've got two 796 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 2: out of two. I love it. Final one gift or 797 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 2: a curse ceramic painting stores and I'm not giving credit 798 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: very well today. This is from someone named Angus, and Angus, 799 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: I apologize. There's your credit, Sam. I know it's a 800 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: nice solid name, right, Yeah, I. 801 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: Want to hear that anymore underused seramic? Oh like those 802 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 3: like color me mind mo. 803 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: Place right, that's my assumption here. 804 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to say capital Wait what is it? 805 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 806 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 3: Capital g GIF and what? Because I when I was 807 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 3: getting married to bring it back. When I was getting married, 808 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 3: I was just absolutely so stressed about so many details 809 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: and whatnot. And I went to one of those places 810 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: and painted a bowl and it was so relaxing. I 811 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 3: did not think about the wedding. It was very meditative. 812 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 3: I just like zoned out and just like was in 813 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 3: the moment. So yeah, I love those places. It's so fun. 814 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I love it, Jamie. 815 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: I hate to say it. I hate to say it. 816 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, Oh, Jamie's gonna get three out of three. 817 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 2: I mean, the hall of fame is very small for 818 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: this game. I don't even know if anyone's ever won 819 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 2: it completely. But the ceramic painting stores are a curse, 820 00:43:55,719 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: an absolute curse. My one experience was I think it 821 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: may have been what brought on the pandemic. It was 822 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: February twenty twenty. I went with my dear friend Sarah. 823 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: We sat there and painted. I ended up paying like 824 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: forty dollars for this mug. And this mug look, it 825 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: has my favorite word on it, which is thailand All. 826 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: I think the word tiland all is so soothing to say. 827 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 3: Oh, you're right, Wow, I never thought of it. 828 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 2: It's got the nice tea. There's nothing hard, you know. 829 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: I think it's an excellent word, thiland. I thought, wow, 830 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: thailand All on a mug. But it was for me 831 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 2: so stressful. And this, this mug is maybe the most 832 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 2: hideous object in my house. I thought I would do 833 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 2: kind of a nice woodsy vibe. I thought it would 834 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: make it look like a little trunk or a little 835 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: tree trunk, and it ended up looking like like a 836 00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: ninja turtles rejected prop or something. It's a yellow. The 837 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: inside it's green, it's brown. This thing is so hideous. 838 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 2: I truly paid I think forty dollars for this mug 839 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 2: and I don't want to drink out of it. What 840 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 2: do I do with this thing at this point? It's hideous, 841 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: this company. I just feel like I've been totally ripped off, 842 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: absolutely a curse. 843 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean I did have I had something 844 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: to say in response to that. 845 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: I want to hear because I feel like you're. 846 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 3: Putting a lot, You're putting a lot of blame on 847 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 3: the process. Okay, well, let's just making your mug. 848 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 5: But really, I feel like, you know, they usually have 849 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 5: tools for writing, so it's very clean, and I feel 850 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 5: like it's. 851 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 3: On you that you did it. I don't know that 852 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 3: you did. I don't think you had the right one, 853 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 3: because I feel like Thailand all would look so crisp 854 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: and clean if you had used that little like teeny 855 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: felt tip thing. 856 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: This is well, it's kind of a stencil, which was incredible. 857 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 3: You can't see. That's that worry. That's that's the flaw. 858 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 3: You can't go stensily. You have to use this like 859 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: specific writing tool. It's like a detailing tool and you can, Yeah, 860 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 3: you can write seamlessly with it. It's like a pen. 861 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 3: It's like a pen with glaze. 862 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: And really, I don't know that I was even presented 863 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: with this option, which maybe it was just a failing 864 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 2: of the store I went to. 865 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 3: That is possible. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that. Yeah, 866 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 3: I think that. I just wish I wish it wasn't 867 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: a curse because I feel like if you were to 868 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 3: try again, you might it might be a gift. 869 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 2: I just got burned so bad. I mean, not only 870 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: did I get this horrible mug. We just went. I 871 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 2: think it was the last activity I did before the pandemic. 872 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a lot of yeah, trauma there, right, right, 873 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 2: So I just have to say curse and well, you know, 874 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 2: I'll post some pictures of this tile in all mug 875 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 2: to Instagram. I want to people can be the judge 876 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 2: of the judge of whatever. I don't know what you're judging, 877 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: but everyone look forward to that horrible image. Jamie. Okay, 878 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 2: let's move on. This has been painful for both of 879 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 2: us and we've got to clear the air. Let's answer 880 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 2: some questions. This is called I said no questions. People 881 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: are writing into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 882 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: They have so many questions about gifts and how to 883 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: give gifts and what gifts they're getting. I've gone through, 884 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: you know, rarely do I go through these before the podcast. 885 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 2: But I thought Jamie knows everything about weddings. Let's answer 886 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 2: for some of these desperate wedding people. Here's the first one. 887 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 2: It says Bridger, and this person doesn't address the guest, 888 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: which I just think is so rude. But what are 889 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: you gonna do? It says I'm writing for advice on 890 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 2: what to get my fiance as a gift on our 891 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 2: wedding day. My fiance, Chris will be thirty when we 892 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 2: get married. He's an avid golfer. Our shared interests, because 893 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: golf is not one, include traveling, going out to eat, 894 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 2: relaxing at the beach or pool, exercising, reading, and spending 895 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 2: time with our families. So basically, if a lady who 896 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: lunches would enjoy some thing, there's a good chance we 897 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: probably would too. Now Here we go, I'd like to 898 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: spend somewhere somewhere between one and three thousand dollars on 899 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 2: his wedding present. I was originally planning to do a 900 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: boudoir photo shoot. But those costs between eight and ten 901 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. This is news to me. That's a lot 902 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 2: of money for some photos. 903 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like you could find you could find 904 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 3: someone who would take those for cheaper exactly. 905 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: But all my best Jenna, Long Island, New York, I 906 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 2: mean eight to ten thousand dollars. I don't know who 907 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: she's talking to for these photos, but that seems well. 908 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 3: The Long Island, the Long Island wedding culture is it 909 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: is a racket that I do believe. Yeah, this is 910 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: a really specific culture. It's very opulent. The weddings have 911 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 3: huge buffets with like every kind of food from around 912 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 3: the world. It's just like they always have a ban. 913 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 3: The band calls like twenty thousand dollars. Yeah yeah, yeah, I. 914 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 2: Mean I want to have a child and needs education. 915 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 3: I know, I know. Well, yeah, this is my whole thing. 916 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 3: Weddings are like beautiful but also disgusting. 917 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 2: That is so much money. Yeah, okay, but that. 918 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 3: Is not Actually that was a bit that was a 919 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 3: very important detail for me to hear. 920 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: Anyways, what should she get this fiance? But that's between 921 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: a thousand and three thousand dollars. Their interests, I'm going 922 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: to say, are kind of generic. These are just things. 923 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 3: It's just going to say generic. Yep. 924 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 2: Literally every person enjoys. Not a single thing here is 925 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 2: a specific outside of maybe reading, but even that seems 926 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 2: a little most people read. Yes, yeah, we've got a 927 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 2: what can these people? What can she get? That's what's 928 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: an object Between what's an experience? I feel like maybe 929 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: like a nice specific experience that they can do that 930 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 2: maybe they'll find something that's more enjoyable that they both enjoyed. 931 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: That's not one of these things that are just literally 932 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 2: a pamphlet for a vacation. 933 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was thinking. I was having a 934 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 3: really hard time coming up with like a tangible object 935 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 3: type gift. So I was thinking, like, I don't know, 936 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 3: maybe like if there's like a day pass for some 937 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 3: like swanky hotel or something, they could like hang by 938 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600 Speaker 3: the pool and then like go get massages or something, right, 939 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: I don't yeah, but that's also something that you would 940 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: do in your honeymoon maybe. 941 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 2: So maybe let's see. 942 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I think she should revisit the boudoir. 943 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: Right, I feel like for two to three grand, you 944 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 2: could get that you're gonna have. 945 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 3: To leave Long Island, but you can absolutely get that, right. 946 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know these photographers who are trying 947 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 3: to stiff you at eight grand. 948 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 2: But I say, you know, spend five hundred dollars on 949 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 2: a ticket to Phoenix, find a photo photographer there and 950 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: you've got the You've got the three thousands, even if you. 951 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 3: Flew them out, even if you flew them to you 952 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 3: in coach. The tickets are very cheap right now. You 953 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 3: could get them there for probably three hundred dollars and 954 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 3: then the photo shoots probably would have paid them the 955 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 3: three grand. Right. You don't want to stiff the photographers. 956 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 3: You know, they're freelance, they're working hard. But yeah, I 957 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: think that or if you're comfortable, depending on how comfortable 958 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 3: you are getting naked or mostly naked. I mean, you know, 959 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 3: get an n YU student to come out a ID 960 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,919 Speaker 3: I guess art yeah, or SVA yeah, School of Visual Arts. 961 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 3: I mean, Pratt is also in the city. We've got 962 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 3: some good photographers who would be really happy for the work. 963 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, you got you do have to be 964 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: careful when you're screening a photographer for this sort of 965 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: photo shoot. Especially cut rate. But uh, yeah, you know, 966 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are plenty of photographers who would do 967 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: this for free, but you want to avoid those people. 968 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 3: But like a progressive, cool female photographer there, you absolutely make. 969 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 2: Sure this person is a yeah, but I think that's 970 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: not a bad idea. And uh as far as other things, 971 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 2: it's just hard to say. I uh, I feel like 972 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not even gonna go for it. I think 973 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 2: we've solved this problem. Let's move on to the next one. 974 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 2: This person also doesn't address you, which I'm just I 975 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 2: don't know what's happening with these wedding people. They're not 976 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 2: thinking about the guests, this says deer Bridger. And I'm 977 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 2: going to say, and Jamie. My twelfth wedding anniversary is 978 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 2: coming up in June. The traditional gift is silk or linen, 979 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: which I refuse to buy. My husband is the type 980 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: of guy who researches items intensely and then just buys 981 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 2: them himself, saying, oh look what I got myself. He 982 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 2: likes books, records, and during isolation has gotten very interested 983 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,399 Speaker 2: in backyard and maintenance. Also, he loves gadgets. Please help 984 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 2: I beg you. That's let's say, sincerely, Molly in Buffalo. 985 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 2: So this whole like buying different Where did this thing 986 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 2: where you buy a different thing for each wedding anniversary 987 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 2: come from? Whose idea was this? 988 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,959 Speaker 3: I actually didn't know about that, And I definitely didn't 989 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 3: know about the silk and linen for your big one too. Yeah, 990 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: it wasn't aware. But you know, I think the gift 991 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 3: part of it, maybe it's worth asking a friend of his, 992 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 3: if he has like a best friend or something who's 993 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 3: like plugged into what he would want more. I don't know, 994 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 3: because I feel like that's a again, it's sort of 995 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 3: a we're dealing with a kind of a broad range 996 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 3: of interests, like Gadget's also kind of I don't know. 997 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I feel like, let's the backyard maintenance? 998 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 2: What does that actually involve? And we don't Actually we 999 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: don't have a budget here either, Molly, which would have 1000 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 2: been helpful, I mean, because for all we know, you're 1001 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: playing with fifty million dollars and then I say, you know, 1002 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 2: get an Infinity pool. But let's see, can you buy 1003 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 2: a lawn air raider? Yeah? That feels like a fun surprise. 1004 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 2: Suddenly he can do his own He can airrate the 1005 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: lawn himself. You don't have to hire a company one 1006 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 2: of the machines that kind of digs through the grass. 1007 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 2: A new hose, a quality hose. My hose is horrible, 1008 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 2: and I would love for somebody to spoil me with 1009 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 2: a you know, a little bit more of a luxury 1010 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 2: hose that feels like backyard maintenance. We don't know what's 1011 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: happening in the backyard. 1012 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's into gardening too. Maybe get him some 1013 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,439 Speaker 3: seeds to plant. 1014 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: Seeds. 1015 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 3: Seeds, seeds are fun. 1016 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 2: I feel like there's probably some sort of Seed of 1017 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 2: the Month or seed subscription club or yeah, buy him 1018 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 2: a nice tree. I feel like you go find a 1019 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 2: really beautiful tree and that might be a fun surprise 1020 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 2: for all whoever his name is. And that feels like 1021 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: a thoughtful thing that you two can watch grow. You know, 1022 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1023 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: I feel like it's symbolic of something. 1024 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 2: Something or other. Right, Okay, Molly, your answer your question 1025 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 2: has been answered. Jamie, we help me just answer one more. 1026 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,959 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I have far too many questions and I've tried. 1027 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to improve as a person and as a host, 1028 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 2: and I you know, people are writing in desperately. This 1029 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 2: is high there. My first wedding anniversary is coming up 1030 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 2: and we're quarantined. We had originally planned to take a trip, 1031 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 2: but now we can't any ideas of this person gave 1032 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 2: no information any ideas for gifts for my husband. Thank you, 1033 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 2: And that's just from m And now, if it weren't 1034 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 2: the first wedding anniversary, I would have thought that Molly 1035 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: had written in twice. But it seems like this m 1036 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 2: is quarantined first anniversary. That feels like high pressure and 1037 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 2: low pressure for a gift. What do you mean? 1038 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1039 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: I also think you know, I'm not telling people to 1040 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 3: get on planes. I don't want anyone to step out 1041 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 3: of their comfort zone or get sick. But I do think, 1042 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, let's not underestimate the power of maybe like 1043 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 3: some kind of road trip airbnb, oh situation where you 1044 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 3: could still do a getaway but make it COVID friendly. Yeah, so, 1045 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 3: just you know, just throwing that out there. If you 1046 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 3: initially wanted to take a vacation, I think you can 1047 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 3: modify what your definition of a vacation is and still 1048 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 3: like have the fun of that without feeling like you're 1049 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 3: risking your life right. 1050 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also, I mean we are like headed out 1051 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 2: of this thing. There's a chance these people are vaccinated. 1052 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 2: There's like or you you know when you're gonna get vaccinated. 1053 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 2: You could buy some plane tickets in like for June 1054 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 2: or July. Say look, we're going to actually go on 1055 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 2: and we're going to burst out of this nightmare on 1056 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 2: our vacation to Argentina. Happy anniversary. 1057 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 3: I think that's right. 1058 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: I'd love to go to Argentina. 1059 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I was just in Belize. I went 1060 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,839 Speaker 3: on a plane. Yeah, the numbers are really low there, 1061 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 3: and yeah, it was just like a blast. I mean 1062 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: I definitely was. You know, the pandemic exists there, you 1063 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 3: feel it, but it was really fun. And the whole 1064 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 3: thing was outside, like everything was outdoors, like all the 1065 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 3: activities obviously, ut like yeah, so it was it was 1066 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 3: really fun. 1067 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 2: What do you eat in Blize? What's the food scene there? 1068 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 2: I can't picture it. 1069 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's actually it's it's varied, but I think 1070 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: the typical, a typical Belizian dish would be like plantains, 1071 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 3: rice beans and some kind of meat. 1072 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh delicious, this is right up my alley. 1073 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was food is awesome and then like a 1074 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 3: lot of fresh seafood. 1075 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh so good. Well, go to Belize for your first anniversary. 1076 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: M I that seems like an excellent option unless you 1077 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 2: live in Belieze. You didn't give that information either, So 1078 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 2: I mean, when you don't give enough information, we may 1079 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 2: just be telling you to stay home. You've got to 1080 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,439 Speaker 2: You've got to open it up and give a few 1081 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 2: key details. I think that's what we're really learning here, 1082 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 2: is that you've got to get into the specifics if 1083 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 2: you want specifics. 1084 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get back what you put in. 1085 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: Right, right. And I'm putting in so much that I 1086 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: expect the same of a listener, Jamie. We've done such 1087 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 2: an a plus job answering these questions that hopefully these 1088 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 2: hopefully these people will send a thank you note at 1089 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: very least to thank you basket. And I don't know. 1090 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 2: This is kind of the end of the podcast. And 1091 00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 2: now I've got this new gift which I've got to 1092 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 2: get framed or bronzed or both. 1093 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and or restuffed. 1094 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 2: Restuffed my dog could use it, give her sloppy seconds, 1095 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: you know, right, No matter what, I have this kind 1096 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: of piece of Nazi memorabilia, and I'm so thrilled to 1097 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: have it. 1098 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 3: Well, I'm thrilled to be the person who gave it 1099 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 3: to you. 1100 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: Tried, so. 1101 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. I've just had 1102 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: a fantastic time and it's so nice seeing you. 1103 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I had the best time. It was so nice 1104 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 3: seeing you. This was so fun and yeah, thanks for 1105 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: having me. 1106 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 2: Of course. And now, listener, this is your cue to 1107 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: do whatever you want with yourself, as long as it's appropriate. 1108 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 2: And I don't know what else to tell you. I'm 1109 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm in a mood and I just want to send 1110 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: you off without being in a mood. So get off. 1111 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: The podcast is as soon as you possibly can. Goodbye. 1112 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 2: I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's 1113 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 2: engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme 1114 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 2: song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow 1115 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's 1116 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful 1117 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher 1118 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 2: or wherever you found me, and why not leave a 1119 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,440 Speaker 2: review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. 1120 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,920 Speaker 2: And if you're interested in advertising, on the show. 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