WEBVTT - October Surprise w/ Kirk Acevedo 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.279 Of the law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.080 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:07.920 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:10.520 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:31.280 Done done, Hello and welcome to That's Messed Up n 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:32.360 SVU podcast. 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:34.600 My name is Kara and I. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:39.360 Am Liza Traeger. We talk SVU, true crimes, celeb guests. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.640 This podcast really does have everything. And to add on 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:48.199 to it, I now have fake nails, and boy does 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:48.800 it change you. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.800 She has entered another world. Yeah, it's like a different life. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.680 I mean you notice I talk more with my hands, right, 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.920 Like I constantly want people to see the nails. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.080 Now they're like a yeah, and now they're like a centerpiece. 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:02.640 You're like a gesticulating queen. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:02.920 Now. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.160 I was talking to Rosie about it because she saw 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.200 Lisa's nails and she, for some reason is such a 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.800 little like tomboy about like love's long nails and was like, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.880 oh my gosh, Lisa's nails. And I was like, yeah, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.000 I was like, Rosie, I can never get those, just 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.759 so you know, like don't get like I not maybe 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:21.440 when they're fifteen, but I mean not now. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:23.880 But you can get a little glitter dip. You know, 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.520 they don't have to be young. You can get yellers. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:28.760 I know I'm gonna get something fun. I'm got to 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.040 get got to get my nails done soon because she 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.959 gotten her nails done or no, no, but I've done 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.000 them for her. But like she wants to come with 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.800 me to the salon. She's into that. That's really cool. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.920 So we're gonna go. We're gonna go maybe this summer. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:42.360 She's a pampered queen. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.319 Yeah yeah, so really quickly, I'm gonna want to get 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.320 We're getting our nails done. We're getting all this stuff 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:50.800 done because we are on the road. We want to 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.200 look good for you guys when we see you in person. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.680 We have just as of this recording gotten back from Denver. 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.840 Thank you everybody that came out in Denver, Tempe, San Francisco. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.080 But we will be in La at a new venue 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.800 on Thursday, the twenty ninth. That's in two days. You 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.920 still have time to get tickets. This venue is called 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.120 the Bourbon Room. I just went there in March and 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.200 had a fantastic time. It's in Hollywood, so it's kind 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.280 of central to everything, and it's such a fun venue 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.400 and I can't wait to do our show there. Yeah, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:21.560 I keep forgetting. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.360 I'm trying to do things day at a time and 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:25.840 then everything is a surprise. 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.239 So that's how I feel. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.959 But get tickets at that's messed uplive dot com or 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.240 the link in our instagram bio has all of our 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.280 dates and yeah, like. 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:42.320 Stand because yeah we got new March. Oh my gosh. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.320 If you haven't seen on our instagram, if you're one 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:47.239 of our listeners that doesn't follow our instagram, why I 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.880 don't understand. We just have beautiful content about our episodes. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.160 We have fun little videos of our live shows, all 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.400 kinds of fun stuff. 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Just go to our instagram bio 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.200 or go to if you just google exactly If you 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.080 just Google, that's messed up, and get to our exactly 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.359 right web page that has a shop link, and we'll 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.480 take you to all of our beautiful merch that we have, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.280 including this new gorgeous muscle tea. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.360 I have some things for the introduction. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.600 So yesterday while I was doing some work, I had 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.720 you know, TV on in the background. That's kind of 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:50.480 my huge And Hulu has some perfect movies on their 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.800 roster right now, like everything that I grew up on. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:59.200 So I watched Center Stage and mister Deed's and Browse 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:03.520 Dods Dodds in both of them. Oh wow, he's like 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.680 a prolific actor. I mean to do double movies and 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.880 he's in both. I was like, what the fuck? Like, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:09.800 I couldn't believe it. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.280 I know, he was always like a guy. I kind 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.480 of knew who he was. And then wait, is he 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.719 in while you were sleeping? Or am I crazy? 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:19.120 No? 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.760 That's a different person. Was he My mom loves that movie? 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.200 Wait? Am I like crazy? 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:27.080 No? 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.359 I think, why is this a twenty seventeen romance from Korea? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.400 This wild He's in movie? He's in while you were sleeping. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.480 I think he's the one that is sleeping, Like right, 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.320 he's the sleeping guys. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:41.560 I think so. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.520 And then Bill Pullman's the one she kind of falls 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.920 in love with, like while the other guy is sleeping. 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.960 Is that. I don't remember this movie very well. I 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:49.279 watched it when I was a lot younger. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:54.360 So she, uh, it's hysterical. So she Sandra Bullock. She 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.800 Sandra Bullock plays a token taker at the train station 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.800 and it's a Chicago set movie. Yeah, And so then 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.280 she just has a crush on this one guy that's 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.240 truly like a fantasy. She doesn't know him, he just 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.840 gives her tokens every day. He falls in the train 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.400 tracks or has a heart something happens. She saves his 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.760 life and then goes to the hospital, but she wants 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.080 to see him and when the so she goes, I'm 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.919 his fiance. So then when all his family comes, they're like, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.760 oh my god, you're the fiance, and so they want 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.359 to hang out with her all the time, and then she, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.640 you know, ends up falling in love with his brother. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.159 They just don't make movies like this anymore, with like 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.080 mistaken identity and like funny little high jinks. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.760 Like this, They don't make them. 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.359 This is yeah ninety five, this is a so yeah, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.320 he's he's the sleeping guy. He's the guy in the coma. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.960 And that's how I sort of always knew him. I 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.239 think that was his first Daddy Dodds, that's his first 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.240 for into my life. But then the data on the 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.320 oc A show I didn't even watch. I just feel 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.159 like that's kind of what got him into everybody's consciousness. 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.600 That might have been like his big break, like one 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:58.680 of his big break moments. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.240 But maybe I'm wrong. Everyone's gonna write me. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.240 We get all these comments like how are you not 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.400 talking about how this person was in the nineteen thirty 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.880 six revival of this movie, I'm like, I haven't seen 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:08.880 everything out there. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.520 Well, so, but Zoe's Sildana, isn't it in Center Stage? 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:15.440 Oh yeah? 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.960 I'm like, who would a fucking guessed that this Crossroads 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.200 SVU center Stage girl was gonna be the highest grossing 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.960 actress of all time. She is her movies. She's in 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.400 Avatar and Guardians of the Galaxy. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.800 Yeah, oh wow, two movies I've never seen, but yeah, 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:36.680 makes a lot of sense. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.240 Correct, we've not seen them. Two movies that have made 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:41.680 over a billion dollars. 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.440 Sure, oh my god. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.760 Yeah, and she's in blue and green, and like, I 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.719 just it's impressive. It's you know, and in center stage, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.919 it's like, does the one black girl have to be 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.160 the one with the attitude? And it's like, you know, 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.720 she just comes and being me. But also there's this 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.400 other girl in that movie. She was also in Ten 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.600 Things I Hate About You, And I bet she thought 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.080 she was gonna be like a famous, famous girl and 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.200 then she wasn't. Yeah, do you know who I'm talking about? 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.040 Her name is Susan May Pratt. Not a name that 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.640 jumps out at you. She's also and drives me crazy. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.920 I mean, oh yes, I recognize this girl. 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.440 I recognize this girl big time from movies when we 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.600 were younger for Friday. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.040 So she's just like a young actress. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.760 And in a row nineteen ninety nine and two thousand, 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.440 she's Ten Things I Hate About You, Drive Me Crazy, 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:38.760 center stage huge, huge, And then since I mean, she's 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.920 been working, but it's mostly like you know, character actor, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.520 like a guest stars. She's just like one episode of 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.720 shows and so she's working incredible, she's doing this for 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.600 a living. But I just I wonder what she was 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:54.840 thinking at the time, Like if I was that young 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.320 and in the biggest teen movies of all time playing 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.640 like the bitch, I just, you know, I just. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.679 It's so funny because like one of the first things 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.600 that comes up is like, what happened to Susan May Pratt? 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.960 And then it's like and then it's like, oh, she's 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.880 still acting, but she's also a mom and a wife 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:12.200 and she married another actor and blah blah blah. She's 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.280 married to some guy who's in like Jericho and like 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:17.760 Star Trek, Discovery and stuff. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.120 So I bet my husband knows who he is. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.480 Yeah, it's a great life, No, Shade, I would love 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.480 to have the amount of credits she has. I just 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.720 she was kind of like bitchy girl, right, she was 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.480 the bitchy girl, but not but not in Ten Things 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.800 I Had About You, she was like kind of dorky 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.760 and loved Shakespeare. She went on a date with Dave Crumbholts. Okay, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:42.400 that was her prom date. Dave Crumbholdts, the mushroom Man. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.560 Okay, from what everything size Back says everything ties back 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:52.160 to stew Let's be honest, what else is going on? Well, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.880 I took Oscar for a little procedure in the hospital yesterday. 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.320 Little guy who was getting he got little tubes in, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.040 but they asked me to get there at five forty five. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.720 His procedures not till nine thirty. He can't eat anything 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.959 since the night before, so it's like he's going, can 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.680 I have a snack? And I'm like, no, like, sorry, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.200 two year old, I can't feed you. It was terrible, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.959 but I met some very funny children in the waiting 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.559 room and we had a we had a little blast 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:20.479 and then oh my god, him coming out of the anesthesia. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.280 Everything was fine, Like the procedure was fine. Him going 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.120 like everything was fine. The doctor like told me afterwards. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.800 He goes, by the way, the anesthesia, the I'm coming 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.520 out of the anesthesia is the worst part. And I go, okay. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.800 They're like, it's just it's it's tough, and I go, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:33.480 all right. 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:34.320 I go in there. 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.160 He's like limp and being fed apple juice out of 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.480 a baby bottle. He does not drink out of bottles anymore. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.800 He is pissed as hell. He's so when he sees me, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.880 he's like screaming. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:46.600 He's so mad. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.840 He does not stopped for like two hours. But he's 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:53.120 like he's like a drunk sorority girl. Like he'll focus 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.880 on the TV for a minute and then he'll be like, ah, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.600 like just crime, but it's not pain. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:02.479 It's just like annoyance. He's just like an annoyed about everything. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:03.880 And it was wild. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.640 I had a wild day with him yesterday and then 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.880 I had to put him to bed and get right 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:08.960 into SVU work. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:10.560 So it was a fun day. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.880 I just think it's so funny that he can ask 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.959 for the snack and then you're just like, no, I. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:19.800 Go, Mommy doesn't have any snacks right now. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.720 Like I just tried to distract him with like TV, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.839 like he was watching a lot of Like they gave 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.680 us an iPad at the place because I had brought 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.319 my laptop, but they gave us an iPad. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.599 They were lady, there's better technology for on the go. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:31.640 FE know. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.800 Well, the thing is is Jared has an old ass iPad. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.640 I need to get a newer one. He has like 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.600 an old one that's like you can't load shit on it. 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.160 I just wanted Mowana, so I just brought my laptop 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.240 because then I could stream it better. And then Oscar 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.400 didn't give a fuck about Moana for once in his 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.439 life and was just wanting to go around all the 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.480 rooms of the hospital. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:52.640 But you know, oh my god, it was wild. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.679 So yesterday me and a friend, I wanted a McDonald's 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:00.200 die of coke, as you do, and so we get 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.920 into the drive through and I didn't realize, like, Grimace 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.319 is in right now. You know, it's his anniversary, it's 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.160 his birth that like everyone's into Grimace. There's like a 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.800 fun tweet that's like I went and asked for Grimace shit, 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.200 and someone's like, who's Grimace And the woman's like, he 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:20.640 works here, But but they have they have a new shake. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.520 They have a Grimace shake. I didn't get it, but 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.559 I've inquired. It's blueberry flavored, so I love blueberry, so 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.920 I definitely want to try a Grimas shake. I was 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.120 just in a soda mood. But then I see they 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.960 have little Mermaid toys. So I go, I'll take the 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.280 Happy Meal toys and they go, well, which one? I go, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.360 any different ones you have, I'll take one of each, 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.880 Like whatever you have, I'll take the little Mermaid toys. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:46.199 He goes, we have the bird and the dog. Fuck 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.360 is that mean? Wow? That sucks one of the. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.679 I got the Bird and the Dog, but like not 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.760 even Scott's actually hot. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.120 Scuttle has a really fun song in the New app 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.280 and The New Mermaid. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.840 So my actually really into scuttle right now. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.440 But like she always wants me to play the scuttle 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.160 Butt song that that she that Aquafina sings in the movie, 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.839 which is like a rap. More but that's so funny 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.120 because moms in my mom group are like, does anybody 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.560 have the Ariel Mermaid toy from Happy Meals? Like they're 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.800 like looking for them, so like they're on the They're. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:18.880 I don't know who has them. 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.320 I don't know if it's like a trick, but like 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.800 why not just make airas like why not make a 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.640 ton of the No one wants the dog? 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.680 The dog? Who wants the dog? He's in the movie 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.280 for three seconds. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.199 And just the way he said it, I was just like, Yeah, 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:35.680 I'll take the burden the dog. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.920 So I have wait, so you just pay for the 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.959 toy separate, you can do that. Yeah. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.760 One time a McDonald's tried to deny me and said 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:44.720 you had to buy the Happy Meal. But it must 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.520 it must have been a new employee you're allowed to 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:46.880 buy him. 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.920 Yeah, yeah, I saw Grimace is really like having a 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.080 you know, glass is a Grimace is a legend an 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:55.880 icon the moment right now. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.960 Yeah, all the staff had like cool purple Grimace shirts too, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.360 but I didn't want to be like. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.040 You're so lucky you got those shirts. But they are 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:10.040 they are purple. They are repping Grimace on SBU every day. 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.040 Yes, yeah, I'm trying to think if people have just 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.280 listened to the like this is the first episode of 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.920 the podcast they've ever listened to. 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.040 That would be so funny if you tuned into a 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.720 podcast and you just popped on episode like one and 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:23.200 thirty four. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.040 But that's what I do. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.120 I mean, if I'm trying a new one, I usually 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.240 start with the most recent or like a guest I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.440 like or yah, you know, like I don't always go 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:34.120 to the top. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.160 I yeah, I'll listen to like the last couple and 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.080 then if I like, I'll start from the beginning because 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.360 I'm like a like a complete list. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.280 Oh see, I bounced around because it's so guest specific 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.480 for me. For most podcasts, Yeah, I want a good 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.960 gut like I you know, I mean, I'll like for 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.000 some well, I think. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.199 The only podcast I really did that with was Bitch Sash. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.840 I just wanted to Like they had only been on 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.280 for a year, so I was like, it won't take 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.800 me that long to get through their back catalog and so, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.520 and I was driving a lot at the time, like 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.240 to jobs and so, like I pumped through that whole thing. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.480 But like who Weekly is a podcast I listened to 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.120 all the time. I'm sure I think other people that 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.640 listen to us listen to them. They just said on 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.160 their list episode they've made a thousand episodes because they're 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.480 on twice a week, and they included all their Patreon stuff. 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.720 I was like, a thousand fucking episodes. Jesus. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.600 Well, I felt cool because I recommended a guest for 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:28.840 one podcast that I listened to, and so I got 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:29.640 to listen. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.080 To the guest that I connected. Oh cool be on 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:32.560 the show. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.560 So it was Ali Colbert's podcasts, and I was like, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.440 you should have Sophie Santos on and so that like 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.880 I felt like a little producer in my car listening 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:42.040 to the episode. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.200 I mean, I just did hers too. I'm about it's 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:45.440 about to come out soon, all. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.640 Right, Well start us with you. I did learn a 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.360 new fact. So we were talking. I don't know how 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.360 it came up. I was with some people yesterday and 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.520 the conversation came up as like, how the Rock, like 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.600 the WWE owns the Rock. That's why he's starting to 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.720 go by Dwayne Johnson because if you use the name 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.640 the the WWE. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:01.960 Makes money off of it. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.920 And that's why John Cena they own John Cena because 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.560 he used that name. So anything he makes the ww 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.080 he makes money. And I knew that, but John Cena 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.440 doesn't give a fuck. He goes I'd be no older 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:12.960 without them. I don't give a shit. He's like a 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.600 company man, you know, he follows rules, he wears cargo shorts. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:16.280 Yeah. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.160 So then someone there goes, well, I'm friends with a 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.800 supermodel and once she stopped modeling, she just sold her 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.960 name and now is like made a billion doll Like 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.560 is now such a million? 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.760 And I was like, wait, what are you talking about? 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.160 And it's Kathy Ireland. 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.480 So in the nineties the Kathy Ireland collection at kmart. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.000 But she has nothing to do. She just sold her name. 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:44.480 And so after she was like done being able to model, cookwaar, 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.640 clothing anything, everything, like she just makes money off the 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.720 name instead of her body and face. And I was like, 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:54.800 that is fucking cool. Because at first I was like, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.200 oh my god, why would you do that? But then 0:15:56.240 --> 0:16:00.320 it's like, yeah, she just is raking it in And 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:01.880 I loved her. I thought she was one of the 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.040 oh so beautiful of the supermodels. I really loved her 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.560 always as a kid. But I'm like, way to go, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.760 Like that's so smart. And I thought that was like 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.480 I was like what, And then I'm like, wow, that's genius. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:14.680 It's funny. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.440 When we were growing up, like the supermodels really were 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.200 like full celebrities, like right next. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.800 Door to like Leonardo Dicapri. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:23.800 You know, like you'd be like, oh, I know, Cidy Crawford, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.600 Naomi Campbell, Christy Turlington, Claudia Schiffer. There was like like 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.920 the era of the supermodel. I know, now there are 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.240 big models and they have millions of followers on Instagram 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.040 and stuff, but are they like as household. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.160 Well, I'll tell you what shifted. 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.800 I do think like Gigi Hadid, Kendall Jenner, like the 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.200 NEPO baby models are huge, and you know there's like 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.560 Coco Rocha there's famous, but like I don't think the 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.360 celebrity is the same because of Instagram, yeacause we only 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.840 had the models, we only had the sports. Like now 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.720 everyone is a hotty, Like everyone online is hot, everyone 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:57.280 is sexy, everyone can sell stuff. Actresses, you know, Anna 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.720 Winter was the first to do it. But like actresses 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.640 are not on the covers of magazines. It's not just models, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:07.560 and so it's like it's I think, unless you're in it, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.320 it's harder. Yeah, unless it's like Chrissy Teagan, but I 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.280 don't even know how, Like she's bigger at postmodeling, I think, right. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.680 Exactly or even like and even the ones you mentioned, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.560 Kendall and Gig sort of got big from TV stuff 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.119 before they like as they were modeling, you know, so 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.040 like TV kind of gave them a Alley oop and 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:32.280 like Ashley Graham is like so huge. Yeah, I follow 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.560 her do A lot of people know who she is, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:40.679 Like Cindy Crawford, Like, yeah, I don't know, but the 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.639 Cindy Crawfords are the Kendall's and Gg's and Bella's, but 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.280 to me their net Bo babies, So I don't give 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.240 a shit as much. Well, they were also like in 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:51.440 commercials and stuff like Cindy Crawford had like major pepsi pepsi, 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.440 and like there was this famous commercial I don't know 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:55.720 if you remember this, but where Cindy Crawford sang for 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.960 this perfume called Charlie and it was the worst thing 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.399 ever where she was like they call it shoh Harley, 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.640 like you can google it, I think, but SnO made 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.080 fun of it like it was you shouldn't get models 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:07.440 to sing. 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.320 I don't remember that, but I remember like, yeah, Carra Delavine. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.160 But again, they're all just like rich girls. They come 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.400 from wealth. So I don't know about the nineties models, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.520 but I don't think it was the same. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.439 Like or is anybody ever getting like discovered at a 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.040 supermarket and then they're like a massive model anymore? 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:24.440 Like I don't know. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.960 It feels like you come from a NEPO family or 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.600 you're rich, or you're like Kara Delavine from like London 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.160 or whatever British society. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:37.800 No, Kate Upton was, Oh yeah, Kate Upton. She got wreck. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.640 She got found by doing like a little dance at 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:47.040 an NBA game on the JumboTron. Oh, and that's how 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.359 she became a household name. And she has one of 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.960 my favorite magazine covers of all time. But and then 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.240 the girl from my high school. She was a victorious 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:01.679 secret angel. She Dave Leonardo DiCaprio. She was discovered on 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.080 the beach on a vacation to Florida with her friend 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:04.879 from high school. 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.879 But she is no longer a model, So damn. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.920 Yeah, I'm not seeing anything from Kate Upton lately either. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.040 Where's that girl been? 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:14.840 Well? 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.760 I guess I could check her Instagram. Maybe she's just 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.199 living life belong. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.320 Now he's giving us the second flag. All right, we 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.320 got to start this episode. We got a hot one 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:31.919 for you today, don't go anywhow. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:32.520 Hello. 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:38.159 Okay, So we are doing October Surprise, which is a 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.800 fun title. Honestly, I always we always give shit to 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.040 Warren Light, but I kind of like this one. 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.320 But I think that this is a political term. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:47.760 Oh I don't know that. 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:49.520 Like, I think it's a political term to call something 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.679 in October surprise. It's like people whip it out to 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:53.880 fuck you right before the election in November. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.359 Oh, that's even more clever. This might be the best 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.879 Worn Light title we've seen so far. I'm gonna go 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.080 out on a limb and say that, and it's season fifteen. 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:09.080 On Hulu it says five. The official it's episode six, 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.000 Live Your Lives people, it's six. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.400 We don't go buy Hulu's bullshit. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.800 I know, but then I don't want people later being 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.399 like it's actually five, and then media having to be like, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.800 how dare you correct me? 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.640 So I just have to do this ahead of time. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:24.960 So we're starting off. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:27.880 We're watching a news broadcast about the New York mayoral election, 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.560 and holy shit, it's Lester Holt and he's playing a 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.320 Channel eight news anchor and I feel very connected to him. 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.280 So I thought he was a Chicago anchor and started 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.560 that way, but it's not. He's always been national news. 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.000 Is Lester Holtz a part of your heart or how 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:42.119 do you? 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:42.600 Yeah? You know? 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.440 I've played drinking games with Lester Holt one time during 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.800 the Olympics. Yes, after the Olympics, Lester Holt and a 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.199 guy who was on camera at WNBC, which is New 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:59.000 York's like NBC News, they came and played kings with us. 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.960 It's like you know, where you pull cards. 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.320 And they all make you do something like, oh, this 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.080 one's a waterfall, this one you got to. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.359 Make up a rhyme or something like that. They played. 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.080 They came and play games with us. Love Lester Hole. 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:10.480 He was a fun time. That was at the Olympics 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:15.920 in to Reno thirteen years ago, no longer, way longer seventeen. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.040 That was so that's so good to hear. Yeah. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.920 He was a CBS reporter and anchor from nineteen eighty 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.399 one to two thousand. I mean, how many people do 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.000 know that have kept one job for that long? Yeah, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.560 and then he was at NBC News two thousand to present. 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.320 He does the nightly news and Dateline. And in twenty 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.080 eighteen there was a poll on The Hollywood Reporter and 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:39.080 he was voted the most trusted man in news. When 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.000 in the music he's in the movie The Fugitive, which 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:44.679 is Chicago, and maybe that's why I oh he is 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:50.040 Yeah as a news guy of course, so he was 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:51.800 in The Fugitive, which is one of my favorite movie. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:52.600 I like this Hole. 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:55.560 I feel like Lester Holt kind of like Brian Days 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.879 used to be very trusted and then he wasn't. Mott 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.560 Lower used to be very trusted, then he wasn't. Lester 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:04.120 holds still kind of the guy he is. He took 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.359 over for one of them. I think Bryan. I think Bran. Yeah, 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.160 so whatever. Just to start with Lester, I can't. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.080 I thought he was like my childhood, but I guess 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.240 he's just always been for everybody, not just locals. 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.240 Lester holds for the people. Yes. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.679 And so the lead in this fake mayoral race is 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:25.800 Alejandro Mugna Munez. 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.119 God, this is going to be a nightmare episode for me. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.600 So we cut to him doing a speech to the 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.440 people of the street, you know, to the people on 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.480 the streets of New York, and he's really getting people 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:37.520 pumped up. And then it cuts to a roundtable dinner 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.280 type function and he's campaigning and he's trying to be 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.879 super inspirational. He has a wife no one wants anyone 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.600 in politics that's single. And guess who she is? The 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.879 mom from the episode Loophole from two thousand and seven. 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.320 So she's the actress name Karen Olivo, and she's a 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.800 big time Broadway gal. So she was original cast of 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.800 Mulin Rouge West Side Story in the Heights. 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.320 So she's working and I. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.560 Think we got in trouble a little bit from some 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.880 of the Broadway babies that listen when we didn't mention 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.200 that during loophole. So here we are mentioning it now, 0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:10.640 giving Karen her props. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.480 Another man is speaking and it's another Broadway baby. So 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:17.240 it's a really star studded cold open if you ask me. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:20.840 And this guy's name is you know him, Leslie Odom Junior. 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:25.600 He's the reverend and he loves Munez. He can't get enough. 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:28.640 And we cut to some men clapping and holy shit, 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:34.760 it's oz Icon Kirk Acevedo, who I love. I am 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.960 like obsessed and he's been enough U s views. And 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.879 then to keep the star studdedness of the cold open going, 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.840 future pedophile Hank Abraham, friend of the Pod and og 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:45.919 Ninja Turtle. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:50.040 So we love Josh Pisce. Yeah we should say his name. 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:55.600 Well one, yeah, Hank Abraham's the pedophile, Josh Pisce is 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.720 the Ninja Turtle. Yes, and he was a great guest 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.000 as well, and so if he would And then people 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:04.040 were like, I can't believe you didn't mention the sex 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.879 and the city thing when he was a guest, But 0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.800 I was like, oh no, we talked about it. We 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.640 had to cut it out. But maybe if you see 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.120 us live you can ask us why yeah, not everything 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:18.520 makes it in So if he wins, he would be 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.040 the first Hispanic mayor of New York City and he's 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.439 for the people. So now his wife is talking at 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:26.640 the opening of his center in the Bronx, and kirk 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.399 Osceveda is like, yo to the mayor, I got to 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:31.639 handle something, and the mayor excuses him to leave, and 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.600 he rushes off. Hank Abraham wants the gossip, but the 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.359 mayor all candidates, just like it's personal business, gets shut up. 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.200 So the wife is talking. 0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.639 About core values and calls up the father of her 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.480 children and he comes up to cut the ribbon. As 0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:50.440 he's cutting the ribbon, we get an amazing editing sequence 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.880 and the pair of scissors jumps to another Broadway superstar. 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.600 Jesus this cold open. 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:01.520 Annalie Ashford, wife of a former guest Joey, taps thank 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:06.600 you tapper, and she's holding up scissors while saying I'll 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.239 cut you. I swear to God not great. So who 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:14.000 are the scissors pointed at. It's mister Personal Business himself, 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.840 kirk Oscevedo, and he's begging for her to put the 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:17.600 scissors down. 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:19.760 He grabs her pushes her against the. 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.360 Wall and uh oh, the police come running in right 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.840 at that moment as she screams, he's breaking my arm. 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.320 He says he's on the job with the doc. 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.200 The cops make him step back and make her drop 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.720 the scissors. Her nose is bleeding, and she says that 0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.440 he was trying to rape her, and he's like, what 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.200 the fuck, no way, our blonde victim. Lindsay is now 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.960 in the hospital with Benson and tomorrow she is like, 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.240 thank god, the cops got here so fast. I don't 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.240 think I'd be able to hold him off much longer. 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.280 That was a good impression, right, yeah, thank you. So 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.639 she has like a baby nasal voice throughout this episode. 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.439 She asks also she is a huge Bravo fan, and 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.640 she was on the episode of Watch What Happens Live 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.920 with Kristen Dodie. Yes, so if you guys want to 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.240 make all those connections in your head, and she's starring 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.080 now on Sweeney Todd on Broadway. So she asks her 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:12.800 how we got into the apartment. She sighs she let 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.199 him in because he just wanted to talk, so you know, 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.600 she obviously knows him. She says they were in a 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.679 relationship and she was trying to break it off, and 0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.240 he said nobody leaves him, and he has friends from 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.760 prison that can hurt her. So then it cuts to 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.320 our boy Barbara in a luxurious office and oh my god, 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:32.200 the mayor is coming to visit him. They're friends and 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.720 they embrace like old friends, and he knows Barba's busy, 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.320 but they need to talk about something and it's about Eddie. 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.920 Eddie is kirk Oscevedo. So the Mayor explains he was 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.040 in a fight with a girl and she says he 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.879 tried to rape her and as you picked him up 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:47.840 last night, and he's asking Barbara to please take. 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:48.120 Care of it. 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:51.080 So he looks back in thought and he's like, uh oh, 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.600 what am I gonna do? So you know, that's what 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:57.360 I would have called this episode Old friends or morals? 0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.520 What will Barba choose? We're back from the credits. 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.840 We have my favorite guy, Eddie is and he's an 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.439 interrogation with Finn and Rollins and he's like, listen, I'm 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.240 sorry I hurt her arm, but she's gonna cut my 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.719 balls off and he said he was there to do 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.040 the right thing, and Rollin snickers and he's like okay, 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.879 and what's that. He explained she was pregnant and that 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.280 he had to pay up, and Finn is like, well, 0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:19.159 and you don't think. 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.520 It's yours, Like what's up? 0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:24.119 And I'm thinking he's gonna say I didn't fuck her, 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.360 I had a vasectomy. 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:26.679 There's no way. 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.520 But his excuse is that he actually has a super 0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.880 strong pullout game and so that's why this baby can't 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.240 be his. And so he just went over there to 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.440 get some sense knocked into her, and he actually has 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.240 to rush if we can finish this up because he 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.760 has to go visit his son's school. But there they 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.760 still have questions because they're like, well, what sense were 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:45.880 you trying to knock into her? 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:46.880 Like what's up? 0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.080 And basically she wanted to have an abortion and he's Catholic, 0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.320 so he doesn't believe in that, so what an idiot? 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.120 And then Finn is like, well, it's we found two 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.840 thousand dollars on your person, so were you going to 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.159 pay for the abortion her? 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:01.879 Pay her? A like what were you doing with that? 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.600 And he's smart and he's like, oh, I'm actually not 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:05.840 going to be saying anything else. 0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.280 Thank you. Benson joins Barba in the spying area. 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.879 And she's like, this case is way below your standards. 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:13.760 What are you doing here? 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.400 And Barba explains in sidebar that the mayor mayor old 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.800 candidate Alex Munez hit him up as an old friend 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.240 and that they grew up together with Eddie and they 0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.399 were the three Musketeers of Jerome Avenue. Alex had heart, 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.880 Barba had the mouth, and Eddie had the muscle. They 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.280 didn't super stay in touch because you know, they all 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.800 stayed in the Bronx and he went skiing and shot, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:41.160 so their friendship did not last or you know, they're 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:44.800 still friends. Benson is shocked that the mayor candidate has 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.720 time to watch like out for childhood friends. Barbara says 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.520 that Eddie has been volunteering for the campaign and Benson 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.600 is like, no, dummy, and she's like, wait, so is 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.520 he watching out for Eddie or for Alex? And Barbara goes, 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.480 I mean, I guess both. Eddie is dumb but good 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.760 and his wife took off and he takes care of 0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:04.840 his mother and kid and he wants to keep going. 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:07.000 But Benson shuts him down and says, I'm sorry, but 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.640 this doesn't excuse attempted rape. And Barbara's like, okay, but 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.960 what if that's not what it was? And they're like, 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.240 can we just give him benefit of the doubt? I 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.560 want to give that to Eddie and Benson's not happy, 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.360 but she agrees to do that. So we cut to Tomorrow, 0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.680 who does not get it and is livid that we're 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.080 doing any kind of favors for Barba's friend. And this 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.760 is a man who has shot at multiple unarmed children 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:34.320 at this point. So so there's like a chat happening. 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.040 It's a walk and talk in the hallways of an 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.840 apartment building, and Tomorrow is talking to Benson being like 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.480 why are we doing this, and it's. 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.680 Like, well, she would do this for you, so shut 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:44.400 the fuck up. 0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.240 So we go visit our blonde girl, Lindsey, and she's 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.280 vaping and the detectives enter into loud pop music and 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.920 there's clothes thrown around everywhere in the apartment and Amar's like, oh, 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.200 you don't have to preserve the crime scene and she's like, hmm, 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.880 it always looks like this. So then Benson is like, 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.520 put your cigarette out and we're all like, that's clearly 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.520 a vape. Benson, like, I thought you were a detective 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.680 like that, that's not a cigarette. 0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.160 It doesn't she's not holding it like a cigarette. 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:13.800 They're even I mean now vapes are more prevalent, but like, 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.280 they don't look like each other. Yeah, it's just she 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.520 looks like an idiot, but Benson judges her for the vape. Anyhow, 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.080 they are there to get scoop and she gives it 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.320 up while sitting on a white, furry little seat. 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:28.240 So she says that. 0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.560 They met her and Eddie met while he walked into 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.320 her shoe store about six weeks ago. She's a foot 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.040 model and a shoe designer. I don't believe her. And 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.920 then she keeps talking and she does work retail between gigs, 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.960 and I'm back believing her. So Benson of course knows 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.479 the brand of the shoes, and she's groping them like, ooh, 0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.480 these look kind of too expensive for Eddie. You know, 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.240 he is trash after all, and she's like, well, he 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.640 came in with his wife, and then the next day 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.920 he came in on his own, and Benson presses, are 0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.360 you sure it was his wife? And she's like, duh, 0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.880 that's why we were fighting about. I didn't want to 0:30:59.880 --> 0:31:02.280 be the girl on the side anymore. And well, the 0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.680 thing is Lindsay. Eddie said that you attacked him because 0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.440 you were pregnant, and she smiles and goes, that's crazy. 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:11.240 So she says, I'm not pregnant, and then blow's smoke 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.080 in Benson's face and Benson's like, okay, well, then why 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.600 would he say that? And she says, well, if my 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:19.040 cigarette bothers you, maybe I could just talk to him. 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.520 And she looks Tomorrow up and down and just wants 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.720 to suck his dick then and there. So Benson leaves 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:26.040 Lindsay he ever. 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.440 Knows one of Benson knows one of these girls, that's like, 0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.320 I'd rather talk to him, Like we've seen a lot 0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.440 of those from her Maloney days for Tomorrow Days. 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:37.600 There's a lot of them. She's like, after you, I 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.960 don't know, does Caresy ever get that kind of treatment? 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:46.080 Not really, Lindsay and her bold rep red lips stay 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.880 and she says that she doesn't want to press charges anymore. 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.240 He says, that's a little too late for that, babe. 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.360 And Eddie is a good guy. We just got too 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.200 hot under the collar. He's like, wait, wait, wait, so 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.320 yesterday he was trying to rape you and today he's 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.160 a good guy, and Tomorrow, angrily and like anger in 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:04.240 his face, asks did someone tell you not to talk? 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.320 And she's like why would you say that? 0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:09.040 Dramatic music begins to play, and we just cut to 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.000 Benson and Barba in an elevator. Barbara is fact checking 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.800 the slut. He says that Eddie hasn't seen his wife 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.080 in three years and there's no way he was there 0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:21.440 six weeks with her. She lives in Miami, and Benson goes, well, yeah, 0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.360 but he's wearing a ring and Barba's like, yeah, yeah, 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:27.960 he's Catholic and loyal, that's why. And Lindsay saw the 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.440 ring and just ran with the story. Benson doesn't like 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.360 that she only wanted to talk to Tomorrow, but Barba's like, duh, 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.280 she's a slut. So now we see this girl as 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.680 a manipulator and a liar. But then Benson goes, yeah, 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.120 but Eddie is also a liar and a manipulator. So 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.120 a lot of lies everywhere for everybody. We're now at 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:50.880 the lenox Landaus School Foundation, October twenty fifth, days before Halloween, 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.480 and I wonder if our detectives have their costumes planned 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.120 yet for the big Yeah, they're talking to a dork 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.400 of a man who knows Lindsay and he's like, oh no, 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:00.560 what's what is it? 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:01.160 This time? 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.560 Finn and Rollins are there and he did take out 0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.080 an order of protection against her. 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.000 So how did you guys meet? So she friended it. 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.440 She facebook friended him after he started the charity, and 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.800 she's like, very into school issues, she said, and Finn 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.400 is like, you're a fool, and he goes, yeah, I'm 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:20.600 probably naive. He does confirm an affair, so it's he 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.640 calls her the perfect intersection of hot and crazy. But 0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.880 it went wrong because he underestimated the crazy and started 0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.800 demanding money and when it wasn't enough, she would boil. 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.680 She said that she would boil the bunny aka. She 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.080 started stalking the kids, his kids outside their school and 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.880 sent emails to his wife and the board about the affair, 0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.000 and his marriage ended and it's all her fault. 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.320 JK, it's your fault. You had the family, you fucking idiot. 0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.960 And then he lost a giant grant from the Gates 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.240 Foundation and Rollins is like, wait, hold up, did she 0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.400 know about the grant? And he goes, yeah, we had 0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.120 a big press release. And then now he finally realizes 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.440 again he's like so naive that he got got and 0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.400 he's really sad and he's like, oh, I'm man, it 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.680 was always about the money. So now we have a 0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.480 giant picture of Lindsay on the corkboard, and Lindsay is 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.640 a great crazy girl named for sure. I believe, all 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.279 hands on deck for a brainstorm session. Finn says there 0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.560 are four men with orders of protection against her for 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.879 harassment and extortion. Rollinson walks in holding papers saying two 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.359 more orders of protection from an ex mother in law 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.960 and an ex shrink who kept getting texts from her 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:28.319 to murder her vagina whatever that means, and Finn is like, oh, 0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:29.520 that means she's a freak. 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:30.919 So I love that part. 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.720 Well that's from isn't that an Amanda Bynes thing. Amanda 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.120 Bynes tweeted, I want Drake to murder my vagina right 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:39.960 around this time. 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.200 God, you know you really have a memory that serves 0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:48.440 this podcast. That is great. I hope Amanda is doing good. 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.360 I know she's recent episode. I love her. 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.960 We're gonna get a really crazy biopic about her one day, 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.520 and we're all gonna feel bad about what happened. I 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.040 think we already feel bad. I don't think enough people to. 0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.440 Oh really, a lot of people are like, whoa, that 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.960 crazy girl, and it's like we need to get the full, 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.240 like we the full. 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.800 Britney spearsing of it all, where you know what's going on. Yeah, 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.719 even though we don't have that yet. For Brittany, I 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.279 feel no. 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.680 I mean, now there's rumors that we haven't seen her 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:21.760 in forever and it's a body double. And then Kevin 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.319 Feederline's taking the kids to Hawaii because I guess in 0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.120 Hawaii you have to pay child support till you're twenty five, 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.480 but on the mainland it's eighteen, so he's taking the 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:34.320 kids to Hawaii to continue getting money or it's. 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.000 Twenty two or something like that. 0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.360 So I posted something recently that her mom showed up 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:40.839 at her door and that they're reconciled. 0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:41.880 Oh whoa. 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:46.319 But that also adds to the sketched body double and 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:50.520 that she's been I just who knows these women give 0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:52.839 us so much. I mean, Amanda minds was. I mean, 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:54.960 both of them are so talented, but Amanda is just 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.040 like a comedic little teen child genius so good. 0:35:58.719 --> 0:35:59.479 I used to have her. 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.400 Milk got milk ad magnetd to our fridge because I 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.200 wanted her hair. She had like gorgeous hair in the 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:09.880 gut milk ad the gorgeous blonde highlights. Anyways, murder my 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:15.040 vagina merch. Now we're back. So this girl has gone 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.480 back and forth about pressing charges. So maybe Barba is 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.520 right and we give Eddie the benefit of the doubt. 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.919 Amara was like, listen, all the other marks were worth 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:25.440 the risk. They were all rich people. Eddie works at Rikers, 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.160 So maybe the target's actually mayor Alex. 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.839 Drum beat bump, bump, bump bumb So. 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.240 Now we have a courthouse hallway walk and talk with Benson, 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.759 Amaro and Barba and Amaro phills Barbara in Eddie wasn't 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.359 in a relationship with Lindsay and wasn't trying to rape her, 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.120 but we think it was with your buddy Alex, and 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.799 he was shaking him down for Alex, and Alex sent 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:50.480 Eddie over to tune her up. Barba glares with anger. 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.239 He's like, if you knew Yelina, you would know he 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.200 would never step out on her. And it's like, oh, Barbara, 0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:59.400 yours naive is the little dork and you're not objective 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:03.280 and he stays Ferman says, you're wrong, but go along 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:04.879 with it, like any other investigation. 0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.399 I'm not standing in your way. 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.839 So now Rollins is talking to a classic landlord vibe guy, 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.480 you know, coffee cups, cigaret hanging out his mouth, and 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.080 he's like, yep, she moved out last night, four suitcases 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.120 in a limo, in a hurry. She left a lot 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.640 of shoes, size six. So if you want some shoes, 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.160 take them up. So Amar and Finn are at a 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.920 campaign event and he's talking up his wife and how 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.200 she's pretty and smart and you'd all be lucky to 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.000 have her. There's Immuna's Chance and the speech and everyone's 0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.839 like going wild, and then Amar and Finn are waiting 0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.799 for him, and his face sinks a little bit. He 0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:38.680 lies to his wife and says they're talking about the 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.279 Police Foundation event and they walk into the kitchen to 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.160 have the chat. Alex says he's in a hurry, and 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.719 they're like, okay, but it's a like for me, I'm like, 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.880 it's a local election, like I think you can relax 0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.719 a little bit. But also there are some loose ends 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.840 to tie up. So they bring up Lindsay and he 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:56.960 quickly is like, yeah, Eddie's an idiot and not the 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.960 best judge of character and she probably saw an easy 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.160 But Tomorrow brings up, how guess what. Not only is 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.480 he dumb, he's also poor, so why would she go 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.160 after him? He says he doesn't know what to tell them, 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.239 but you know, they get closer to him and they're like, hey, 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.120 we're being respectful and we're not bringing in the brass 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:15.240 and we're keeping it quiet. 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.120 But like, is he covering for you or what? He says. 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.560 He's a happily married man and he's never met Lindsay 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.680 and he swears on his mother's grave like a real 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:29.040 housewife at a reunion, deny, deny, deny. He's like, why 0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:31.560 what did she say? And they're like, ah, nothing at all. 0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.919 She left her apartment last night and we're tracking her down. 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.359 He just smiles and walks off, and he does not 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.040 give a fuck and is not nervous. So I Fin 0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.200 and Tomorrow are walking being like, huh, what are we 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.080 gonna do? Like he does not think that we're gonna 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.319 find her, and then Tomorrow is like, well, don't worry 0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:50.080 about that. I friended her on Facebook and this is 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.759 so dated. Because then Finn asks if she poked him, 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.120 which is hysterical. She liked his photo and the like 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.120 poking is such a Mark Zuckerberg. 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.960 Thing because even when we were all big on Facebook, 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.480 we weren't doing that, Like, even when Facebook was the thing, 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:09.520 you weren't poking. 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.120 No, but it is just such a dork thing, like 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.239 ha ha, I like you you know what I mean, 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.160 Like it's just so Harvard. So she liked his photo 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.000 and her most recent photos are on a plane headed 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.879 to Israel for her new job as a political consultant 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:29.160 to the Labor Party in Tel Aviv. 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:31.839 L oh L. 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:36.759 Like she was just living in a fully like dishovel 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:38.840 apartment with a bunch of shoes and no, she's like 0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:41.160 off to help the Labor Party in Israel. 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:44.920 Audios, shalom. You mean. 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.680 So we run to Hay Abraham's office aka future pedophile. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.200 And so current. 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:57.120 Yeah, So, how does a former shoe clerk work in 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.759 your client's political campaign in the Middle East? I didn't 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.480 realize New York mayors have political campaigns in Israel. 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.359 What is happening? I don't know? 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.680 Can someone please write to us? I don't understand what's happening? 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:17.840 He corrects him shoe model I believe. Then he's smugly 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.319 is like, wait, how is this Svu's concern? He also says, 0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.640 I mean should I call the DA because I'm handling 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.520 his campaign? So what's up? And Finn is like, you 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.360 do whatever you need to do and Omar I was like, 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:30.960 I mean, it's gonna look pretty bad a spin doctor 0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.000 who can't control bad press about his own office. And 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.680 Kank says, okay, can we just handle this quietly? It's 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.279 a private matter. And Finn is like, oh shit, she 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.839 was involved with you and he says that his right 0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:46.040 hand man, That's what it was. And it's a disaster. 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.960 He has a wife and two beautiful children, and so 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.319 then it's like, well why did he cheat? And these 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.839 guys are just all such trash bags, Like you can't 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.000 use your wife and kids as an excuse of why 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.520 someone should be quiet when you don't think about them 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:01.239 when you do bad things? Right, Why do I have 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.160 to think about your family more than you think about 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.320 your family? It's like wild. Yeah, So they're like, fine, 0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.560 can we talk to him? But sadly we can't because 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:13.200 he's at a job overseas. Let's get let's guess where, Yes, 0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:15.840 tel Aviv, So I feel like I don't know if 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.239 I was confusing here, But this girl has also had 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.280 things with the right hand man, so they're both in Israel, 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.640 and Hank's like, listen, it's a win win. So the 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.000 DA has heard of this special little meeting, and Barbara 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.520 confronts Tomorrow and Benson with that info but like, okay, 0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.200 like I don't, I don't know. Barbara's a little annoying here, 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.160 and Barba's like, wait, why would he send a campaign 0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.840 worker out of the country right before the election? So 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.799 he's starting to maybe be suspicious. So Barbara's understanding it 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.520 like maybe your friends from the Bronx suck, Like I 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.520 don't know. So then Barba inquires, like, what have Eddie 0:41:50.520 --> 0:41:54.120 and Alex's responses to this have been. Alex has denied 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.640 and they can't find Eddie, so then Barbara suggests him 0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.960 reaching out to them. So Omar's like, no, I was 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.440 going to suggest going the other way and you should 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.760 recuse yourself. But the DA has asked him to stay 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.360 on it for the optics and he wants to be 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:12.200 kept in the loop. So Marrow accuses him like, oh, okay, 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.640 so you can keep Munaz in the loop. And Barba 0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.480 is offended and Benson tells them both to calm down. 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.719 Benson is going to keep digging and Barba's like, okay, cool, 0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.000 but if you're going to take a shot at the 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.239 front runner of the mayoral campaign ten days out from 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:25.720 the election, make sure. 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.360 You don't miss done. Done. 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.960 So they go to the apartment of Eddie and a 0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.160 child answers the door. His dad is home, and the 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.840 dad like sends him back to the apartment into the apartment. 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.000 As he approaches the door, his voice is raspy and 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.120 he is looking great. 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.640 So they got some questions for him. 0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:46.120 He's like sure, so the DA is dropping the assault charges, right, 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.880 and they're like yeah, but this is about witness tampering. 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.200 He seems confused about what they're talking about, and Finn's like, well, 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.960 what was the two thousand dollars in your pocket? He's like, 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.279 I told you it's for the abortion and Rollin's is like, 0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.600 you mean the one you don't believe in, so a lie. 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.600 Rollin's is like, we think it's money Alex gave you 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:05.880 to shut her up, But to me, that's not a 0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:06.840 lot of money. 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.120 Yeah, maybe it was just like a first installment. They 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.399 just got to get her to shut up for ten 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.640 more days. You know, two grand is just that's right, 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:18.920 that's a month of rent. Yeah, because her apartment was nice. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.200 They try to make it look shitty, but we know 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.160 what New York is, and it was a great apartment. 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:23.960 It looked pretty good. 0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:30.040 Yeah, he says, look mad. Respect Okay, what but his 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.360 lawyer told him he doesn't have to talk to them anymore. 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.920 Rollin says, by lawyer, do you mean Alex? 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.120 And he's like, I gotta go cook dinner for my 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.319 family and he shuts the door. Barbara's at his desk 0:43:40.360 --> 0:43:43.000 working late as Yelina walks in and she's in a 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:46.239 cocktail dress and they speak some Spanish and hug and 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:50.720 she's on her way to another rubber chicken dinner. He says, well, 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.680 then they're very lucky, and you know they giggle. So 0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:57.480 what's up? She says, you tell me. Detectives came to 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.480 talk to Alex, So what's up? So Barba's in suspenders 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:03.799 and is like, okay, Alex sent you so I could 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.680 tell you more information, and she's like, no, not at all. 0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.360 He lied and gave me some excuse, and he doesn't 0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:12.120 know that I'm here, and so then Barbara goes, great, 0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.799 then let's not have this conversation at all then, and 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.160 Yelena is like, Nah, that doesn't work for me. You're 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.480 Alex's old friend, so if there's something that we need 0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.160 to worry about, you should tell us. 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.359 He says he can't talk about this with her. 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.359 Yalina says that Alex didn't marry a fool and he's 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.359 on the verge of doing something really great for all 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:33.080 of us. Then she says, Poppy, don't ruin his chances, 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.640 and I love that. Barbara says, if he has nothing 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.279 to hide, then he has nothing to worry about. She 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.120 nods and says, so it's like that, hmm. So she 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.160 just tell me one thing? Is this in any way 0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:49.439 about us? They stare, He doesn't answer, she walks off. 0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.400 I guess this is like one of the I watched 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.959 this show always thinking Barbara was gay, Like I never 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.560 saw the Barba Benson thing. But I guess this is 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.560 one of the times where he does have maybe a 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.800 thing past thing with a woman that I must have missed. 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.040 Yeah, but they're also all young. Some people don't care, 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.760 so you know grad school, but he's. 0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.640 Flirting with her a little bit, Like I think he 0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.600 plays I think Barbara plays him by, but like he's 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.080 flirting with her a little bit. So I get, but 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.080 I don't see that with Olivia, the flirting. 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.719 I see it with this woman. Yeah, no, Barba is by. 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.040 So we got our cuties in a side room with 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.200 the blinds down. So we have Benson, Tomorrow, Rollins and 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.319 Finn waiting for Barba to enter. He enters and is like, 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.560 where is the fire? So there's a laptop propped open, 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.120 and uh oh, there's something that they need him to see. 0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:41.680 Omaro explains. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.560 Since Lindsay found her other marks from social media, we 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:48.880 decided to do some investigating. So Rollin's, the Queen of 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.720 the Flirt, went online and set up an iHeart Alex 0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:56.200 Midez for Mayor page. I can't even say it without laughing. 0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.479 So he messaged in a half an hour and wrote, 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.839 hey babe, and Barba's like, wait, you set up a 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.680 honey trap and she proudly says yes, That's why I 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.160 came here from Georgia to be your it girl. 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:11.960 Yeah. 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:14.680 He then suggested to take the convo off a less 0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.440 public site. And they went on a site called Pleasure 0:46:17.480 --> 0:46:20.600 without Conscious Conscience. Oh my god, you know that word 0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:25.080 really trips me up. Uh oh, so this is Pleasure 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.440 without Conscience dot com. It's a cheating site and he 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.840 has an account and his alter ego is Enrique Trouble. 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.080 She sent a sexy selfie at you know, cleavage and 0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:40.040 Rollins shows it off to everyone and goes, thank you, 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:40.440 thank you. 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.960 I'm a slut. Barbara keeps being. 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.160 Like, sure, this is a hoax, like this isn't real, 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.480 and she's like, well, I asked for a photo, so 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.719 we're waiting for a response, and Barba then goes, well, 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.960 don't hold your breath. He's at an event right now, 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.880 a fundraiser with his wife and daughters. And Barba's like, 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.000 he doesn't have fucking time for this, and Finn knows 0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:58.759 the game and he goes, no, man, guys like this 0:46:58.960 --> 0:46:59.479 make time. 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:00.839 Guess what ding ding ding? 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.320 We got a reply tuxedo shirt and suspenders down in 0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:06.120 a really hairy chest and I like it. 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.839 She says, is that all you got? Ding ding ding? 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.719 And now it's him in his underwear with his dress 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.680 pants around his ankles, ding ding ding. We don't get 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.080 to see this, but Finda's see a picture and he goes, 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:18.760 that's the full Muno. 0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:25.239 Muno's moons, Munyos, Munhos. 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.200 That is the full Munyos. I don't even think my 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:32.440 tongue moves in that way. So tomorrow looks some mug 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.080 like see told you, and this dude wants to be 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.280 the next mayor of New York and Barba's in shock. 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:43.280 So now Barba and Munyos are at a cafe diner 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.760 Vibe and it looks like my perfect restaurant. I would 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:48.560 love to get some corn beef fashi at this place. 0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:53.399 So Munya's is like, this is did I do it again? Munos? 0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:56.600 Munyo's is like this is terrible. Someone's setting me up. 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.879 And Barba's like, okay, yeah, I know that, and that's 0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:00.799 what I'm here to clear this. 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:01.279 Shut up. 0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.920 So someone else sent the pictures of your penis and 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:07.680 he's like, I'm not even gonna dignify this with an answer, 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:09.799 and Barbara's like, well, i'm your friend and you better 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:10.680 start speaking up. 0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.160 And he's like, I was hacked. I was hacked, and Barbara. 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.880 Goes, great, we'll get our tech team on it, and 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:16.839 he goes, no, no, no, my team will be on it, 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:20.200 and it's like, fuck you. Yeah, He's like, how can 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.799 you believe this? It's obviously Wall Street trying to keep 0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.000 me out of City Hall, and Barbara is done. He says, 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:28.560 you better start being honest with me and honest with yourself. 0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:31.200 You came for me, You came to me for help 0:48:31.239 --> 0:48:33.560 on Eddie's behalf and Alex is like, yeah, cause you're 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:37.000 our friend. And Barbara responds, and you didn't ask our 0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:40.720 friend to go shut Lindsay up and Alex angrily says enough, 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.400 I don't have time for this, and it's like, you 0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:46.279 better make time, babes, because you're going down, And while 0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:49.560 he's walking out, Barbara says it looks bad. Alex turns 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:53.399 around and says to who to you? Hm, you get 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:57.319 to judge me. You're my priest. You're gonna tell me 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.000 how many hail Mary's I got to say, and Barbara 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.680 cuts him off. Alex, I'm going so way out of 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.680 a limb for you. I could lose my job simply 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:08.000 by speaking to you, So please tell me there are 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.880 no other women out there, and he says, Yolina is 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.320 the only one, and I'm sorry if that hurts Raphael 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:19.799 ooh Rafa and Yelina definitely had a thing and she 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:20.800 chose Alex. 0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:21.840 Bad choice. 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.799 So Barba is back with his crew, saying that he 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.000 thinks Wall Street is setting him up. And Tomorrow does 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:28.560 not like this, and it's like, wait, you gave him 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:30.960 my head's up? What the fuck? So not only is 0:49:30.960 --> 0:49:33.319 he tampering with witnesses, he now has you to cover 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:36.319 it up, and Benson plays teacher. Barbara yell's have you 0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:39.680 found any evidence yet? And the answer is no, not 0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:42.640 on the public sites, but they're gonna keep checking. Barbara 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.880 walks off and a tizzy, but Amaro stops him on 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.239 the way out. As they bicker back and forth, Amaro's like, 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.840 you know, you can be charged with obstruction. Barba spins around, fine, 0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.600 report me see where that gets you, and Amorro says, 0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:56.759 it's not just about the sexting, dude. If this comes 0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:59.359 out after the election, it's gonna look like we were 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.279 carrying the for him too, and Barbara goes, okay, but 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:03.240 if we do it now, it's. 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:04.319 Gonna look like a political hit. 0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.080 Barbara goes into the elevator and Tomorrow jumps in at 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.640 the last minute to join him. Barba's like, oh great, 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.480 you're giving me a ride. Thanks, then says I'm not 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.919 cutting him a break because we're friends, and Tomorrow's like, yeah, 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.440 I don't think it's about friendship. 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:17.600 It's about you. 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.840 You're afraid to go after him because while he stayed 0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:21.960 in the hood and played man of the people, you 0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.080 went off to Harvard and pretended you were one of 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:24.560 the whites. 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.240 He says, Green goes, but I felt silly and he's playing. 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:30.880 He's playing you, dude, he is making you feel like 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:33.520 a sellout. And Barba's like, okay, yeah, thanks for that. 0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:41.400 Bodega psychoanalysis. Detective ha ha, I love Bodega psychoanalysis. I 0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.960 really like it. Maybe a bracelet, maybe maybe a bracelet 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:52.040 merch Bodega psycho analysis. So they speak Spanish to each 0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.359 other and split up. Benson asks Tomorrow as he walks back, 0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:57.880 and if they are okay, and he says, guys like 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.680 Barbara are too smart for their own good. He gets 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:02.640 the vibe from the crew that they're over it, and 0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.279 he's like, what the fuck do you guys think I 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.799 should drop this? And Finn is like, I mean, sexting's 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.359 not a crime, and he doesn't want to see any 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.360 more selfies, and then he giggles and Tomorrow's not laying 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.720 down on this. He's like, this clown could be Mayor 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.880 and he opened himself up to blackmail, and this can 0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:22.520 be the tip of the iceberg. Rollin says, uh, oh, 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.160 you might be right, it might not be just the tip. 0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:27.480 Benson runs over to him. 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:32.640 Like, dude, there's so many puns. 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:35.680 Benson runs over to him like, dude, if it is 0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.080 a political corruption case, we have to hand it over 0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.560 to the feds. Anyways, Finn is like, what are we 0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.400 gonna send over the picks he sent to Rollins, and 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.600 Rollins is on the laptop saying that she's not the 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.080 only one and that his alias Senrique Trouble is popping 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:50.080 up on other sites. 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.439 It goes back over a year ten so far. 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.480 Finn says that makes him a dog, not a criminal, 0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.240 and Finn's body language is full lazy boy at this point, 0:51:59.280 --> 0:52:03.080 like he is a lounging at work. Rollins goes well, 0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.759 except one of these women that he was sexting with 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.200 just got an executive position at the New York Gaming Commission. 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:14.080 Finn stands up slowly and reluctantly. The violins start playing 0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:15.880 who pulled those strings? 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.400 No government background. 0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.560 Finn, after looking at the pick for a second, says, wait, 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.239 hold up, I've seen this girl on screen before and 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:26.720 it wasn't on c SPAN, so we all know Finn 0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.239 is a porn addict with an encyclopedic knowledge of every 0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:35.000 porn actress's face. So they go visit her. She's confused, 0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.520 I already have the position. Finn and Rollins walk behind her. 0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:40.919 Just a few questions, like on your resume it says 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.279 you went to University of Michigan and they don't have 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.040 a record of you attending. She's like, damn, I should 0:52:46.040 --> 0:52:48.040 look into that and fix it. I mean I was 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:52.640 more auditing, really, Rollin says what subjects? She says dance 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.560 and movement, and Finn is so shady and goes no acting. 0:52:56.200 --> 0:52:57.680 She laughs and says no. 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.080 Finn brings out the DVD he wants to get it signed, 0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:04.480 and so he's like, well, I have this DVD and 0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:10.000 it's called million Dollar a Night Baby. She says, this 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.040 is unfair, stands up and says that was a long 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.759 time ago. I didn't do any adult films after that. 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:19.120 Are you guys from Vice. I didn't do any adult films. 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:23.279 I did nothing illegal. Rollin says, we just want to 0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.440 know how you got your job here, and she name 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.640 drops Enrique Trouble and she's like, whatever, what if he 0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:29.279 got me the job? 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:29.840 Who cares? 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:32.680 It's Albany, believe me, there are people a lot less 0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.759 qualified working here. So now they bring and who wants 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.040 to work in Albanie Jesus Christ. So now they bring 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.680 the DVD to Barba in a parking garage a la 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:44.520 deep throat vibes, and he's like, okay, okay, so let 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:47.080 me get this straight. He used his position to get 0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:50.839 a former porn star a job in Albanie. So yeah, 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.399 basically that a little text text time, and then six 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.719 months after that, she was complaining about how hard her 0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.960 life is. So Barbara gets excited, like yay, he helped 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:00.759 her out, and they're like, babe, No. 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:02.359 She told him she. 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.560 Got a call from a reporter wanting to collab on 0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:07.680 a book, and then Alex started paying her off pretty 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:11.719 cheap again, only five hundred dollars a month. But when 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:14.920 the mayoral race campaign came up and he got her 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.480 a job with the state any money trail Barbara asksinfin 0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:20.800 is like, no, he's too smart for that. It's always 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.719 a bagman delivering cash. Every time it's silence. Barbara knows 0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:27.520 the bagman. So Barbara goes to see Eddie, who's at 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:30.240 the park. He's like, how did you find me? And Barba' 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:31.840 is like, oh, well, I went to see your mom, 0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:33.480 who told me where you'd be. 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.279 And then they talk about how hot his mom is. 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.440 So then Barbara sizes and sits down and they have 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:43.000 a little talk. Barbara reminisces how Eddie always had his 0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.080 back and took care of him and you know, lunch 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:49.200 money protection, and I'm in love with Eddie even though 0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.840 he is anti choice. Eddie calls him his brother and 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:54.959 says he would never have learned English if it wasn't 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:58.000 for Barbara, and they smile and it's really cute and 0:54:58.120 --> 0:55:01.560 Eddie's like, we're even right, and barb but goes, yeah, 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.120 you're loyal to a fault. And then they stop talking 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.120 about the past and we're in the future and Eddie 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:11.040 asks how much trouble he's in and Barbara explains witness tampering, bribery, Eddie, 0:55:11.040 --> 0:55:14.480 those are felonies. Eddie drops his head and says, I 0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:16.840 can't roll on Alex. Barba says, you have to start 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:18.880 to think about yourself because if not, you're going to 0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:21.400 go to jail, and an xco in jail, that's going 0:55:21.480 --> 0:55:23.840 to be like a hard time. Eddie's like, dude, he 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.319 has always been so good to me when he's mayor. 0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:27.799 He said he's going to get me a job at 0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.680 one PP and Barba says, yes, but Alex is looking 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.600 out for himself now, and you have a son and 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.560 a mother to think about, and you're not going to 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:38.200 be any good for them upstate. So he goes, I can't, 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.440 I can't hurt Alex. But then he just goes, you 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.319 know what, you were always the smart one. Why don't 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.799 you tell me what to do. Barbara pats him on 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.080 the back and it seems like he's pretty ready to 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:50.000 talk now. So Eddie's an interrogation with his lawyer and 0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.919 Benson is taking down notes. So two steps a week 0:55:52.960 --> 0:55:56.600 to deliver envelopes to Anna and Jenny. Benson asks what 0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.680 about Lindsay and he's like, well, that was a one 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:03.279 time payment and tomorrow is hands on hips watching standing up. 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:05.759 Alex told him it was all legal and that we 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:07.359 had to do it for the people of New York, 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.959 and both Anna and Jenny ended up on state pay rolls. 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.160 One isn't gaming and one isn't tourism. And his lawyer's like, 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:15.560 so we've done here and tomorrow asks SETTI are we done? 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.120 So Benson explains, we gave you queen for a day, 0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:20.440 but if you have anything else to say, now is 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:20.879 the time. 0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:22.200 He nods no. 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.799 So the lawyers like he cooperated fully come on and 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.480 Amorro says, okay, but don't forget. If we find info 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:30.319 that you didn't tell us everything, you could still go 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:33.160 to prison. So then Eddie whispers to his lawyer and 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.440 then admits there was another lady and he goes, I 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:39.080 didn't handle her. They ask why not, and he has 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:40.919 no idea, and he's like, I don't know me because 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:44.319 she's from Yonkers and he overheard Alex talking to his 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.480 brother in law about making another run. And this person's 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:51.520 name is Joy, Jody's something like a French name, and 0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:55.440 she's a school teacher, and so dramatic music plays. We 0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.760 go to Grant High School. A principal points to a person, 0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.720 Amoro says, Jody Ear and then a young girl turns around. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.600 She is a teen Amorro, and Finn tell her they 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.480 need to talk. When they are alone in a classroom. 0:57:08.560 --> 0:57:10.640 She breaks down, Oh my god, if this is about 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.200 the mall, I already paid for those bracelets, so clearly 0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:17.320 she stole those bracelets and they're like, no, Alex Muno's 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:23.439 and she denies knowing who that She denies knowing who 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.960 that is, and Finn is like, okay, then why did 0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:28.160 he give you money? And she's like, okay, fine, I 0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.320 know what he is, but we never met and they're like, okay, 0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:33.320 but you did meet online. You exchanged messages and she's like, 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.280 I can't talk about this and they're like, no, we 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.640 know because he's paying you, right, And Amaro reminds her 0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.400 that she's not in any trouble and so like, you 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.080 gotta help us out, girl, show us your cell phone 0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.400 and she says, I have rights, don't I? 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.040 And I love that. Finn says yeah. 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.240 Finn says, I mean we can get a warrant, but 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.120 we'll have to talk to your mom, and so then no, no, 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.960 please don't call my mom and so she panics. 0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:59.760 But this is also why you need to be a 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:00.440 cool mom. 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.600 So at this situation, your kid's like, yeah, go tell 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.760 my mom instead of oh fuck, and then gives it 0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:09.080 all up to the cops. I mean, in this situation, 0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:12.520 someone's doing something illegal to her, but like whatever, I'm 0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:16.640 off my soapbox. So she hands over her phone. She 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.160 is not happy about it. We cut straight to the 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:23.280 Five Boroughs Police Association ball October thirtieth. It's a fancy affair. 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:27.600 Barba is there. He demands a private conversation. Hank Abraham 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:29.680 is like, are you fucking serious? We have CEO and 0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.480 union leaders here. We have to save the city. And 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:35.080 Barba's like, okay, yeah, I've never been more serious. 0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:35.720 Like shut up. 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:38.440 Hank's like I'll go with and Barbara goes you stay 0:58:38.520 --> 0:58:41.600 right here. So Yolina is like what's up, and Barbara 0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.680 again is like, just Alex, this is not a group project. 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:45.600 Okay, let's go. 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.040 And so then Alex is such a little creep and 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:52.040 he kisses Yelina with his eyes wide open, staring at Barba. 0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:56.120 It gives her that gross No, his eyes are open 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:59.760 looking at him. It's really gross. And then Yolina looks 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:04.840 fucking nervous, nervous, worried. So then Alex is like, whatever 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:07.760 you have to show me, it won't alter anything besides 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.840 our friendship. And they're outside in the darkness of night, 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.160 and he asks Alice, Alex, and now now it's Alice, 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:18.320 So now we're gonna call him Alice. Down the looking glass, 0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:23.400 he asks if he recognizes these women stripper, porn star, 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.919 you help them get on the state payroll, and Alex says, yep, 0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:28.920 our office helps a lot of people. And Barbara pushes, 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:31.480 I guess it's trickier when they're too young, and then 0:59:31.560 --> 0:59:33.920 shows him a picture of the sophomore student in a 0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:36.840 bikini top and he's like, oh, come on, she friended 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.960 the campaign on Facebook and wanted to volunteer. And it's like, 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.520 even if that's true, you shouldn't know about that, Like 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:46.000 why are you dealing with the Facebook. You've obviously, like 0:59:46.240 --> 0:59:49.240 you know, hired interns to do that. So Barba says, 0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.120 you guys exchange direct messages, and he responds that he's 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:55.640 done that with hundreds of other constituents. And then Barba ciel, 0:59:55.800 --> 1:00:00.640 she's not a constituent. She's fifteen, Alex, she's not voting. 1:00:01.160 --> 1:00:02.880 He says he had no way of knowing that. 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:05.680 I just went to a high school graduation, and I 1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:10.040 could tell you it's obvious. Yeah, it's really obvious when 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.280 these people are children. And this guy just like cannot 1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:15.600 tell that he is done for this is very scanned 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:19.320 of all you are done. Barbara goes really no way 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.480 to know that even after the picture she sent, you 1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.720 asked her for the pictures, by the way, and they're sexy, 1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:28.440 and you solicited and exchanged these photos with a fifteen 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:29.120 year old girl. 1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:30.880 You are in possession of child. 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:35.440 Poor nagriafe dude, and Munios only asks where did you 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:38.720 get those? And it's like if you're in a it's 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:41.400 again scannaval. It's him going, oh, I would usually have 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.840 deleted those things from my phone, and it's like no, 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:47.960 the normal response is I would never that ain't me, 1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.360 Like fucking idiot. So then he guesses, he goes Eddie, 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:55.120 and Barbara scoffs, Eddie, your bag man, you used for 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:58.480 everyone except the child because you knew that would upset him. 1:00:58.840 --> 1:01:01.200 Eddie truly is a hero of this, Like he didn't 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.040 want to deliver to a you know, for pedophilia reasons. 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:06.840 Yeah, Alex calls him a son of a bitch. 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:11.120 You're using Eddie to swift boat me taking advantage of him. 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:13.880 Barbara laughs like, oh yeah, I'm the one taking advantage. 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:16.120 Then he flips on Eddie fast like I didn't ask 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:17.920 him to do this. Maybe he thought he was looking 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:21.040 out for me. Barbara says, yep, m hmm, okay, here 1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:24.320 we are, Alejandro. I have to turn these over to 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.600 the special prosecutor, so maybe suspend your campaign and it 1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.960 might go easier for you. Alex says, damn, they got 1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:33.000 my oldest friend to be a hatchetman. 1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:35.400 How much are they paying you to take me down? 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:35.840 He asks? 1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:40.400 Barbara's like, there is no Vandetta here for you. He 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:44.240 cuts him off six days before the election. Barbara reminds 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:46.600 him that he risks everything to give him a fair warning, 1:01:46.640 --> 1:01:49.120 and you fucking know it. He responds, this is what 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.600 I know, Rafa. Ever since you got that Ivy League scholarship, 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:54.400 you've been hooked on their teat. 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:56.200 I don't like that word. He says. 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:58.280 You think you're one of them because you go on 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:01.720 their ski vacations and yachts. The man snaps his fingers 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:04.520 and then goes and you jump up, and Barbara responds, 1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:05.400 it's not about me. 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:07.360 And you damn well know it. And he's like, you 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:08.480 know what Yolina thinks. 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.160 She thinks that you've always been jealous of me because 1:02:11.160 --> 1:02:14.560 you can't stand to see another Cubano get ahead, because 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.240 you think there's a room for only one of us 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:16.800 at the top. 1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:19.280 And if I go down, that leaves you. Let me 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:20.080 tell you something. 1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:22.360 You take me down, the people will hold it against 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:24.240 you and you won't be able to show your face 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:24.960 in the barrio. 1:02:25.440 --> 1:02:29.480 Your political future will be over. Are you threatening me, Alex? 1:02:29.560 --> 1:02:32.240 I'm looking out for you, raffi, And just like the 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:35.040 old days, he grabs and squeezes his shoulder and walks away, 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:37.080 and it fades to black, and now we're back at 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.880 daytime and it's a press frenzy insanity in front of 1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:44.200 the Foundation, so we hear no comment, no commenting, But 1:02:44.280 --> 1:02:46.720 then he continues to talk because he can't stop himself 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:50.040 because he's scannable. New Yorkers are smart, they know the 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:53.000 powers that be or terrified of me becoming mayor. Hank 1:02:53.000 --> 1:02:54.960 Can Yelina stand on either side of him as he 1:02:54.960 --> 1:02:57.880 addresses the press. A reporter straight up is like, is 1:02:57.920 --> 1:02:59.919 it true that you were sexteen to fifteen year old 1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:03.760 Hank shuts that down, no questions. He blames Park Avenue 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.760 and real estate moguls and white collar criminals and powers 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:09.400 that benefit from the status quo, and they know that 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:11.520 I'm going to fight, but I'm going to fight for 1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:14.400 the working people. And then another reporter is like, hey, Elena, 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:17.640 are you standing by your man? And Munio's just rambles 1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:20.840 on and doesn't let Yelena answer. He continues, We've come 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:22.840 too far to allow them to get away with this. 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:27.480 Another reporter pushes, what about the explicit photos you sent? 1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:28.760 Alex is so. 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:31.760 Frustrated, he just wants to keep talking in platitudes. He 1:03:31.840 --> 1:03:33.760 says that he was set up by rich people that 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:38.360 used the corrupt NYPD to do it. We pull back, 1:03:38.440 --> 1:03:40.240 and this interview is on a TV screen and it 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:42.440 keeps pulling back, and oh my god, where are we? 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:43.680 Who's watching? What's up? 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:46.720 We're in a bar and then he brings up IAB 1:03:47.040 --> 1:03:51.040 investigations and then names Barba by name and says, you know, 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.040 my old friend has proven to be the lap dog 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:57.040 of the city's aristocracy. Barba, Benson and Tomorrows sit around 1:03:57.080 --> 1:04:00.200 the bar under a hanging American flag, so we know 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:03.520 they're at a bar, Benson asked the bartender to mute it. 1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:06.440 It also looks like Benson and Tomorrow are just drinking water. 1:04:06.640 --> 1:04:07.560 Did you notice that? 1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:10.880 No, it's truly, because then I was like, if it 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:12.560 was VODK or something, I thought there would be ice. 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:17.160 It is truly glasses of water and the condensation looks 1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:17.920 like water to me. 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:21.200 Maybe they're on the job. I don't know. Oh, you're right, 1:04:21.520 --> 1:04:22.880 you're right, you're right, you're right, you're. 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:25.439 Right, and they're like, it's really funny. He still thinks 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:27.520 he has a shot, and Barbara calls him a brawler 1:04:27.560 --> 1:04:29.920 and says he gave him a chance to do this quietly, 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:30.800 but he refused. 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:33.320 So then Amara was like, well, you know what I will. 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.800 I'm gonna go quietly into the wind, baby, and he 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:39.040 says good night and leaves. Benson SIPs her water, but 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:42.080 Barbara then says, I mean, don't count him out. When 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.680 I was seven, my mom said stick with Alex. He's 1:04:44.680 --> 1:04:47.280 going to be mayor of New York someday. She never 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:51.520 said that about me. Tears, Oh, baby, bar Ba. Benson 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:54.200 asked if he's okay, and he says it's politics. No 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:57.640 danger of a traffic jam on the high road. She's like, yeah, 1:04:57.680 --> 1:04:59.919 but he was your friend, and he adds so was Yally, 1:05:00.320 --> 1:05:03.760 she thinks this was personal and not professional. Benson reminds 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:05.400 him that he had a job to do and he 1:05:05.440 --> 1:05:06.760 did it and that's all it was. 1:05:06.840 --> 1:05:07.840 He asks, was it? 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:10.720 He is sipping on whiskey, He is not on the job, 1:05:10.760 --> 1:05:11.760 and he is depressed. 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:13.480 He has clocked out for the day. 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:18.000 Yeah, and unfortunately this episode is not done. I feel like, 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:21.120 please be over, but it's gonna keep going. So the 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:24.000 elevator doors open and Barbara marches out and there is 1:05:24.160 --> 1:05:27.400 Leslie Odom Junior again, and he wants a word with Barbara. 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:30.240 He's like, your office is ruining the reputation of a 1:05:30.280 --> 1:05:33.840 man who can turn this city around. And he's spoken 1:05:33.920 --> 1:05:37.640 like a true man of God, reputation over everything, child porn, 1:05:37.880 --> 1:05:42.040 no big deal, really wearing that collar. Well, so then 1:05:42.080 --> 1:05:44.200 Barbara has no patience and gets in his face and 1:05:44.280 --> 1:05:46.200 lets him know that he is no longer involved in 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:48.680 this case. But trust me when I say that this 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:51.200 was not an easy decision and he was my old friend. 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:53.840 And the Reverend's like, who cares. I don't care about that. 1:05:53.920 --> 1:05:56.840 I care about the city's poor being ignored, and he's like, 1:05:57.000 --> 1:05:59.720 you chose to sacrifice all that because of a Zipper 1:05:59.760 --> 1:06:03.080 pripe problem. I just love this scene. I honestly this 1:06:03.160 --> 1:06:06.680 is Chef's kiss. He says, I'm sorry, it's out of 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:09.520 my hands now and walks off. But the episode still 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:13.400 not over. So we're at a raiment court on Halloween Thursday, 1:06:13.440 --> 1:06:17.520 October thirty first, and it seems like the lawyer is 1:06:17.560 --> 1:06:19.680 perfect for Halloween, very spooky vibes. 1:06:19.720 --> 1:06:22.600 Alex's lawyer has a white, long haired ponytail. I love it. 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:26.040 The lawyer is saying, release this man. This is all 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:29.920 politically motivated, and Yalina is like nodding in the stands, 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:32.520 and the judge is like, shut up, save the speeches. 1:06:32.960 --> 1:06:36.240 Baylist said at ten thousand dollars, moving on, Gavel, Gavel, 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:38.480 and then it turns to Barbara and Benson, who are 1:06:38.480 --> 1:06:41.560 also watching in the stands, nodding, And now it's the 1:06:41.600 --> 1:06:44.040 final end. I feel like this episode had four endings, 1:06:44.280 --> 1:06:45.560 like it could have kept ending. 1:06:45.600 --> 1:06:48.680 I'm really surprised that it didn't end. After Barbara going 1:06:48.840 --> 1:06:52.000 was it like it was? It was about work, not personal, 1:06:52.000 --> 1:06:53.640 and he goes, was it that's to me? 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:55.840 Where it would have ended. Yeah, that's what I mean. 1:06:55.840 --> 1:06:58.240 There was like four endings. This is kind of like 1:06:58.280 --> 1:06:58.840 a beef. 1:06:59.040 --> 1:07:01.440 Beef had like four episodes that could have been the finale, 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:06.160 but kept on trucking, giving us more great episode. 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:07.280 I'm into it. I'm into it. 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:10.120 I have a question, though, what was going on with 1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:13.440 Eddie and Lindsey though, the thing that kicked this whole 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:17.280 thing off. Why was their scissors, Why was their physical 1:07:17.920 --> 1:07:20.400 physical shit going on? Why were they fighting like that? 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:22.360 He just came there to drop off money. 1:07:23.120 --> 1:07:25.440 Well, I bet she didn't want to be quiet or 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:28.680 she like started mouthing off or something or threatening. 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:29.920 I don't know, you're right. 1:07:30.400 --> 1:07:32.960 Like it seemed like he would have Eddie, here's your money, 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:35.120 bitch bye, and instead it was like this huge thing 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:35.960 and then the cops coming. 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:36.080 Her. 1:07:36.160 --> 1:07:38.000 First thing to jump to is he tried to rape 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:40.960 me instead of he tried to sab me like whatever. 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:44.560 Like yeah, and Eddie does seem like an upstanding gentleman, 1:07:44.720 --> 1:07:47.280 like I don't know why he would, but but I mean, 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:49.520 she was punched in the face, she was bleeding from 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:50.200 her no. 1:07:50.240 --> 1:07:52.120 And he said she was trying to cut his balls off. 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:54.160 So that's why I was like, what is it? Maybe 1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:57.400 maybe he said this is all the last you're getting 1:07:57.480 --> 1:07:59.800 or something like that, and she went fucking ham who knows, 1:08:00.560 --> 1:08:02.960 But it's just I was wondering about it. 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.600 Yes, I think the same as Lindsay two grand Are 1:08:05.600 --> 1:08:06.520 you fucking kidding me? 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:06.919 Yeah? 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:11.160 Yeah, I want twenty. I think that's so. 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:13.080 She physically went after him with a pair of scizzard 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.439 and said, hey, volunteer for the campaign. I'm gonna stab 1:08:16.479 --> 1:08:18.440 you if you don't get me more money. 1:08:19.200 --> 1:08:21.280 I love her. Lindsay is a vibe. 1:08:21.360 --> 1:08:23.800 Okay, say where you are and I'll give you guys 1:08:23.880 --> 1:08:26.360 all the real life political tea. 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:27.040 When we come back. 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:45.040 And we're back, and this is just like an episode 1:08:45.080 --> 1:08:49.880 of Hysteria where we're talking about politics. This is obviously 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:53.559 very clearly based on the Anthony Wiener sexting scandal. They 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:58.840 make it incredibly incredibly similar, so that you cannot think 1:08:58.880 --> 1:08:59.960 it's about anything else. 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:01.080 Well, and I'm. 1:09:00.880 --> 1:09:04.720 Really excited because I know nothing. I only know just 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:08.880 like the headlines, but not the articles, you know, like, 1:09:09.000 --> 1:09:11.360 I don't actually know anything about this, and I know 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:13.599 you're a New York crime expert, so I'm very excited. 1:09:13.640 --> 1:09:14.400 I also have to say. 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:17.000 This is very hard for me because I do smell 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:19.680 that my mom is baking a cake and it smells delicious. 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:22.040 Oh my god. Okay, well we'll get through this quickly. 1:09:22.120 --> 1:09:24.920 Souk and Co put your finger in the icing or whatever. 1:09:25.439 --> 1:09:28.840 So no, you know, Russian desserts do not have icing. 1:09:28.880 --> 1:09:31.920 These are peasant cakes. What kind of cake will it be? 1:09:32.120 --> 1:09:32.720 Apple cake? 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:35.920 It's apple Jared would love that because he doesn't like cake, 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:37.519 but he does love apple pie, and I bet that 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:40.599 would be a good crossroads for him. Please ask your 1:09:40.640 --> 1:09:42.479 mom if she could just scoot a little piece of 1:09:42.520 --> 1:09:43.599 that into the mail for Jared. 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:47.640 He would love that. So I like this too because. 1:09:47.439 --> 1:09:49.120 Even though I lived in New York at the time 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:51.559 and I was here for all of this, this really was. 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:54.320 Like such a like punchline thing. 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:56.400 It was like how we never really knew about Monica 1:09:56.439 --> 1:09:58.600 Lewinsky because we just were like, oh, the stain on 1:09:58.640 --> 1:10:01.479 the dress, punchline, like it wasn't we didn't really know 1:10:01.520 --> 1:10:02.280 the full story. 1:10:02.720 --> 1:10:05.320 But also, his last name is Wiener. 1:10:05.800 --> 1:10:10.280 I know, I know, it's too silly, It's too fucking silly. 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:13.799 So Anthony Wiener was a Democratic congressman for New York's 1:10:14.040 --> 1:10:17.080 ninth congressional district, which is entirely in Brooklyn. 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:19.360 It's like South Brooklyn. 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:21.960 And he was elected in nineteen ninety eight, and he 1:10:22.040 --> 1:10:25.559 was reelected every two years for six elections up through 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:26.080 twenty ten. 1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:27.479 He was re elected in twenty ten. 1:10:28.000 --> 1:10:30.640 Then in July of twenty ten, he had kind of 1:10:31.040 --> 1:10:33.200 a viral moment where he made a speech on the 1:10:33.200 --> 1:10:36.680 House floor about healthcare for nine to eleven emergency responders, 1:10:36.960 --> 1:10:39.559 and that kind of, like like I said, went viral 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:43.720 and got this guy like kickstarted into politics. Like now 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:46.320 people are starting to talk about Anthony Wiener more like. 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:47.320 Oh, who's this guy? 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:50.719 Like young, kind of handsome, Like what's this guy's deal? 1:10:51.160 --> 1:10:53.920 So now that was in twenty ten. Fast forward a 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:56.639 little less than a year to May of twenty eleven, 1:10:57.320 --> 1:11:01.880 and a photo of a bulging crow in underwear appears 1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:05.559 briefly on Wiener's Twitter account. Okay, so it goes up 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.599 on his Twitter account and then whoopsie's deleted. But nothing 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:11.559 is deleted on the internet. Everybody, you know screenshots or 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:12.840 it's say every time. 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:16.320 Sorry to go backwards a little bit, Kara, you said 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:17.880 he was a hot man. 1:11:18.560 --> 1:11:22.439 Well no, no, no, handsome, I said, like he at 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:22.840 the time. 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:25.439 I mean, I don't know. 1:11:27.040 --> 1:11:30.639 I'm not saying hot. Huma's very beautiful. She sees something 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:34.639 in him back in the day. I saw something kind 1:11:34.680 --> 1:11:38.400 of cute about him. Not in these current photos. Oh, 1:11:38.479 --> 1:11:41.160 let me look at their wedding photo. Yep, no, not 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:42.160 not hitting it for me. 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:45.280 Yeah, h but I could see how. 1:11:45.800 --> 1:11:48.040 But I do love old people on Twitter, just like 1:11:48.120 --> 1:11:51.400 accidentally putting bold shots on their feet. Yeah, that is 1:11:51.520 --> 1:11:52.600 pretty comical to me. 1:11:53.240 --> 1:11:53.559 Yeah. 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:57.320 Twenty eleven, he puts a bulging crotch photo on his 1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:00.360 Twitter account. It goes away. The first person to cover 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:04.439 this is obviously Andrew Breitbart of the bright Bart blog 1:12:04.560 --> 1:12:07.880 or whatever. He's a conservative blogger. A few days later, 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:11.599 it's May thirtieth, Wiener tells people, my account got hacked. Look, 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:14.160 and he says, quote, look, this is a prank and 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:18.000 not a terribly creative one end quote. So it's been 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:20.760 three days. He's taken it in stride. He's continuing to 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.479 deny posting the pick, but he's elusive about whether the 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:24.320 photo is of him. 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:26.120 He's not answering about whether is that you? 1:12:27.080 --> 1:12:31.080 On June sixth, so now we're about ten days out 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:34.120 from the scandal, he does a one to eighty and 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:38.800 he confesses in tears to engaging inappropriately with women online. 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:42.080 He admits the photo is of him and that he 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:44.800 lied about the Twitter hack, but he says he will 1:12:44.800 --> 1:12:49.759 not resign as from Congress and that his wife, Huma Abidon, 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:53.120 and he are staying together. Huma abidin we've spoken about 1:12:53.120 --> 1:12:56.599 her on this podcast before. She is was the deputy 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:59.439 chief of staff to Hillary Clinton when Hillary Clinton was 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:02.519 US sec of State from nine to twenty thirteen, and 1:13:02.560 --> 1:13:06.160 then she was the vice chair of Hillary Clinton's presidential 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:09.160 campaign up through twenty sixteen. She is Hillary Clinton's like 1:13:09.200 --> 1:13:12.360 one of her right hand People like like they are tight, 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:12.800 tight tight. 1:13:14.000 --> 1:13:15.920 So did people make a lot of jokes about how 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:19.720 they're both women, that men are that their husband Like 1:13:20.320 --> 1:13:23.120 that was a lot of humor, right, yeah, yes, yes, 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:25.639 a lot of like standbyer man humor with these two. 1:13:25.840 --> 1:13:29.920 So days after this confession, it becomes public that Wiener 1:13:29.960 --> 1:13:33.479 and his wife are expecting their first child. Okay, now 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:37.160 this shit starts to unravel very fast. Less than a 1:13:37.200 --> 1:13:40.879 week from the confession, Wiener says he will seek treatment 1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:43.800 quote to focus on becoming a better husband and a 1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:47.519 healthier person end quote. The specific treatment is very vague. 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:52.800 Then June twelfth, TMZ publishes photos of Wiener semi nude 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:54.880 that he took of himself in a locker room. 1:13:55.640 --> 1:13:57.120 Who knows who he sent those two? 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:01.599 And then June sixteenth, Wiener announces his resignation from Congress 1:14:01.640 --> 1:14:05.599 and apologizes, and he apologizes for quote the personal mistakes 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:07.559 I have made and for the embarrassment I have caused. 1:14:07.920 --> 1:14:12.320 So from the original bulge to the resignation, it's three weeks. 1:14:12.360 --> 1:14:14.520 This baby is wrapped and done. 1:14:14.760 --> 1:14:15.160 Okay. 1:14:16.000 --> 1:14:17.800 I think that's what's so confusing about this is like, 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:21.440 there are two scandals here. So that's the initial scandal 1:14:21.760 --> 1:14:26.080 is just the bulge, embarrassing his wife, lying about it 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:28.439 being a hack, then eventually saying that it is okay, 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:32.000 December of that year, they have their baby. Now, it's 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:35.160 that's December of twenty eleven. In July of twenty twelve, 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:37.640 he tells People magazine, I've got a good life. I 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:39.400 have no plans to run for office again. 1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:41.160 Then a year. 1:14:41.080 --> 1:14:44.760 Later, May of twenty thirteen, of course, he announces he's 1:14:44.880 --> 1:14:49.080 running for mayor of New York City because these mediocre 1:14:49.160 --> 1:14:51.839 white men just like can't help themselves, like you basically 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:54.720 left politics and disgrace, but you're still like I could 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:56.439 still be great, people could still love me. 1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:59.559 Like and I don't know, you. 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:02.400 Gotta give it up for like the delusion, you know, 1:15:02.640 --> 1:15:07.160 drag delusion. So immediately after he announces his mayoral run, 1:15:07.200 --> 1:15:09.760 a gossip site releases sex. 1:15:09.439 --> 1:15:11.840 Of him and a woman on the internet. And I 1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:13.040 looked up some of these sects. 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:16.360 They're pretty fucking boring, Honestly, they're like, oh, I woke 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:18.439 up kind of hard this or I've been thinking about 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:22.000 you hard, and I woke up this morning feeling very 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:24.559 eager and blah blah blah, like it's nothing that great. 1:15:25.120 --> 1:15:30.479 And then more pictures and sexting are by allegedly by Wiener, 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:31.880 are released by the website The. 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:34.519 Dirty, and these were all all. 1:15:34.400 --> 1:15:38.800 These messages were sent using the alias Carlos Danger, So 1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:45.600 Enrique Trouble equals Carlos Danger. They are from the same family. 1:15:45.640 --> 1:15:48.200 And I think that's when people went. When I heard that, 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:51.040 I went absolutely insane, Like I remember being like this 1:15:51.080 --> 1:15:53.680 could not get funnier, like Carlos Danger, Like who does 1:15:53.720 --> 1:15:57.000 this guy think he is? So he admits to sexting 1:15:57.040 --> 1:15:59.639 at least three women, but he says that this all 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:03.280 happened since his resignation from Congress, and he said there 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:06.040 had probably been about six to ten women involved total, 1:16:06.160 --> 1:16:08.240 not quote unquote dozens and dozens. 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:09.800 So I'm not that bad. 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.000 I've only been sexting with six to ten women outside 1:16:12.000 --> 1:16:14.320 of my marriage, not dozens and dozens, is what he's saying. 1:16:14.760 --> 1:16:18.240 His campaign manager, Danny Keatam, was like a bye girl 1:16:18.320 --> 1:16:20.720 and quit the weekend after he admitted everything. 1:16:21.320 --> 1:16:23.320 Huma stands by him. 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:26.759 He says he will not drop out of the mayoral race, 1:16:27.120 --> 1:16:29.839 even though The New York Times reads him for filth. 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:33.080 There's an op ed piece about how he has how 1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:36.600 he has problems with the truth. And in September at 1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:39.679 the Mayle race, he finishes fifth place in the race, 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:42.040 which is probably what's going to happen to Alex Munos 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.959 in this fake race that we'll never see. His campaign 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:48.000 basically imploded after all the sex stuff, and how did 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:50.840 he think that it wouldn't It's like the hubris of 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:53.800 Jen Shaw to go on Utah, to go on Salt 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:57.559 Lake knowing that you are a criminal, or like you 1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:00.240 know your husband's doing shady shit, Erica Jane, why are 1:17:00.240 --> 1:17:02.120 you puting a microscope on you guys by going on 1:17:02.160 --> 1:17:02.880 Beverly Hills. 1:17:03.120 --> 1:17:04.719 This is the same with Anthony Weener. 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:08.360 You know this shit's out there, and you fucking can't 1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:11.160 stop yourself because you just have to be in the limelight. 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:14.920 So there's a twenty sixteen documentary called Wiener, which is 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:18.720 so funny, that covers his resignation from Congress and his 1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:20.840 disastrous twenty thirteen. 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:21.200 Run for mayor. 1:17:21.720 --> 1:17:25.960 So now, truthfully, there's three scandals here. Here's the third one. 1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:29.599 We fast forward to September of twenty sixteen. Now it's 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:33.439 three years after this sexting scandal, and a Daily Mail 1:17:33.560 --> 1:17:36.280 article comes out claiming that Weiener had been sexting with 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:40.880 a fifteen year old girl and the FBI is investigating it. 1:17:41.360 --> 1:17:45.360 So his laptop, So this is the October surprise because 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:49.599 this all comes out right before the Trump Clinton election. Okay, 1:17:50.080 --> 1:17:52.920 all of this comes out. He's connected to Huma, whom 1:17:53.000 --> 1:17:57.240 was collected connected to Hillary Trump fans are looking for 1:17:57.320 --> 1:18:00.719 any reason to get on Hillary her emails, all this shit. 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:04.400 Anthony Wiener's laptop was seized and emails related to the 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:08.720 Hillary Clinton campaign email controversy were found on it, causing 1:18:09.120 --> 1:18:13.120 an additional controversy late in the presidential election. And this 1:18:13.160 --> 1:18:15.080 is also, if you'll remember, we talked about this when 1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:17.519 we did the Pizzagate episode. This is around the time 1:18:17.560 --> 1:18:22.400 where Super Psycho QAnon people thought that the laptop had 1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:26.120 proof that Hillary and Huma Huma were like eating babies 1:18:26.160 --> 1:18:27.920 to get their adrenaline or whatever the fuck. 1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:30.920 Like, so we covered this and like, you know, you 1:18:30.960 --> 1:18:34.040 covered it, but Pizzagate is already a thing. But in 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:38.519 Jersey Housewives, they keep calling the pizza oven debacle between 1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:44.080 Gorg and Louis the Pizzagate. Like Joe Gorg is like, ah, 1:18:44.200 --> 1:18:47.559 more with pizzagate, and I'm like, no, no, it's already a thing, sir. 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:48.960 You can just start. 1:18:48.800 --> 1:18:51.839 Calling take pizzagate to me about you and your sketchy 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:54.400 brother in law getting into a pizza oven business together. 1:18:54.760 --> 1:18:58.839 Yeah, very different. So whatever. 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:03.280 At this point, it's like, yes, I think he did 1:19:03.280 --> 1:19:07.000 something wrong. Why didn't this come out in twenty fifteen? 1:19:07.080 --> 1:19:09.800 Why didn't it come out in twenty fourteen? You know, 1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:14.040 this comes out weeks before the election. So as the 1:19:14.120 --> 1:19:17.800 FBI starts to investigate, they're looking at they find these 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:21.280 emails from the Hillary thing, and that leads James Comy 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:25.360 to reopen that investigation very late into the presidential election, 1:19:25.680 --> 1:19:28.120 and Clinton says it is one of the reasons she lost. 1:19:28.600 --> 1:19:34.519 I mean, ultimately nothing was found. Hillary's been cleared of 1:19:34.520 --> 1:19:37.720 all this email bullshit. But Comy opened it back up 1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:43.080 right before, so that did all happen he was investigating. 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:47.680 It's like devastating, devastating another man's dumb dick caused us 1:19:47.800 --> 1:19:49.400 fucking for all of this. 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:51.679 It's devastating, And. 1:19:51.560 --> 1:19:54.439 Like, do you wonder if Huma just like apologized to 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.599 Hillary so much? It was like, I'm sorry I married 1:19:56.640 --> 1:19:59.040 such a dumbass, but you probably know what it's like. 1:19:59.200 --> 1:19:59.559 I don't know. 1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:02.240 I wonder what their private convos were like. But also 1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:03.760 the email, it's just like. 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:08.680 With a what's it's like that one thing was enough, 1:20:08.840 --> 1:20:11.120 Like I don't know, it's devastating, it's really hard. 1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:11.960 Yeah. 1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:16.280 But on May nineteenth of twenty seventeen, Wiener pled guilty 1:20:16.320 --> 1:20:19.200 to one count of transferring obscene material to a minor, 1:20:19.760 --> 1:20:23.040 and that is when Huma finally files for divorce. Though 1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:26.040 I don't think that they are still yet officially divorced. 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:29.120 No, they I recently saw news that they're back together 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:31.559 and like hanging out, and that's what I saw people 1:20:31.560 --> 1:20:34.880 online being like, this isn't just like cheating, this is 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:39.439 a crime, Like your dude was soliciting shit from a 1:20:39.479 --> 1:20:41.720 fifteen year old, Like how do you forgive that? 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:42.679 Yeah? 1:20:43.439 --> 1:20:48.080 Yeah, I like their divorce was initially in public proceedings. 1:20:48.120 --> 1:20:51.320 They took it private to keep their save their son 1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:53.519 from embarrassment. So I know that they work on co 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:56.559 parenting together, is what I've read about them. But listen, 1:20:56.680 --> 1:21:00.320 September of twenty seventeen, he sentenced to twenty one months 1:21:00.320 --> 1:21:03.080 in federal prison. I had no idea that that happened. 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:06.000 I had no idea Anthony Wiener went to jail. He 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:10.280 served a sentence until February seventeenth of twenty nineteen, so 1:21:10.320 --> 1:21:12.160 I think he did like seventeen months out of the 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:16.519 twenty one months in it says Federal Medical Center in 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:18.600 a or Massachusetts. I don't know if he got some 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:22.920 kind of like cushy psychiatric hole deal where he needs 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.880 to get looked at for narcissistic personality disorder or something. 1:21:26.200 --> 1:21:28.479 But I had no idea. Anthony Wiener went to jail, 1:21:28.840 --> 1:21:32.240 got out in twenty nineteen. Was ordered to register as 1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:34.680 a sex offender in April of twenty nineteen, So he's 1:21:34.680 --> 1:21:38.599 a registered sex offender. And now, if you're wondering where 1:21:38.600 --> 1:21:41.800 you can catch Wiener these days, he is on the 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:45.000 WABC radio show, which, by the way, WABC is an 1:21:45.040 --> 1:21:48.240 AM radio station that is conservative in the New York 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:50.920 and Connecticut area that my father forced me to listen 1:21:50.960 --> 1:21:52.360 to for my entire childhood. 1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:55.000 So I'm very familiar. Rush Limbaugh was on there. 1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:56.720 I'm very familiar with a lot of the people that 1:21:56.720 --> 1:22:00.479 were on there, including So he's not a Democrat anymore. No, 1:22:00.600 --> 1:22:07.040 he is, including Curtis Sleewah, who is a right wing person. 1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:10.000 They have a radio show together called The Left Versus 1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:12.960 the Right, where it's a little odd couple thing ha 1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:17.479 ha ha. But like the show, the radio station is 1:22:17.720 --> 1:22:21.559 so crazy right, like Trump's people all have channels on 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:23.160 that or shows on that channel. 1:22:23.520 --> 1:22:26.240 So Wiener apparently just kind. 1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:28.280 Of goes along with a lot of what Curtis says, 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:30.559 and then I'll be like throw in like one little 1:22:30.600 --> 1:22:31.800 lefty thing here and there. 1:22:32.560 --> 1:22:33.840 But that's what he's doing now. 1:22:34.080 --> 1:22:36.400 He wants everybody back in his corner listening to him 1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:39.880 on WABC. I was thinking maybe he went full right wing, 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:42.840 the way we've seen so many canceled men go. But 1:22:43.479 --> 1:22:46.280 I think he's just actually courting the right wing, because 1:22:46.560 --> 1:22:48.280 you know, the right wing loves a canceled man. 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:52.360 Yeah that so that So this is what this is what? 1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:55.800 I oh, it's the post. But it was April of 1:22:55.840 --> 1:23:01.120 twenty twenty three. Wiener was out with whom at an event? 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:06.559 Yeah, she probably shouldn't be going to events, but I 1:23:06.600 --> 1:23:09.280 mean the New York Posts had a fucking field day 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:12.559 with this, like like covers that say pop goes the Wiener, 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:17.280 like lots of Wiener stuff. So yeah, that's the whole story, 1:23:17.520 --> 1:23:21.320 and they borrowed from it pretty but in like, I 1:23:21.320 --> 1:23:24.920 don't know, the Wiener October surprise was like on a woman, 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:27.400 and in this case, it was like an October surprise 1:23:27.560 --> 1:23:27.960 for a. 1:23:27.920 --> 1:23:31.760 Guilty politician, so you know, s for you doing their 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:32.080 own thing. 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:35.639 But Huma got to date Bradley Cooper, Like why would 1:23:35.680 --> 1:23:36.280 they do this? 1:23:37.000 --> 1:23:39.680 We have a really, really awesome guest for this episode, 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:44.720 So stay glued to your driver's seat or wherever the 1:23:44.760 --> 1:23:55.439 hell you're listening to this podcast. Our guest today is 1:23:55.560 --> 1:23:58.679 not only a talented actor, but also the first guest 1:23:58.760 --> 1:24:02.360 on our show to be interview whild driving. He's on 1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:05.160 the move, He's going places. He's best known for his 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.719 recurring roles on shows like Oz, Band of Brothers, and Arrow. 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.160 He was also in movies like The Thin Red Line 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:12.840 and John of the Planet of the Apes, but you 1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:16.479 know him today as the loyal knucklehead Eddie Garcia. Guys, 1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:19.440 please enjoy our interview with the very talented Kirk Oscevedo. 1:24:19.800 --> 1:24:23.559 Yay, Kirk, Like I said, huge, I've been waiting for 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:29.479 this since Oz. I'm so excited that you're ge and 1:24:29.840 --> 1:24:32.080 so he stalked you a little on Instagram. And we 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:36.280 love candy corn too, the best. 1:24:37.240 --> 1:24:38.479 You're in a safe space. 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:40.639 I like the pumpkins the most, but we both love 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:42.120 candy Corn and I couldn't believe it. 1:24:42.840 --> 1:24:44.320 It's my seasonal candy top. 1:24:44.640 --> 1:24:46.720 I mean, especially when they come out with like the 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:51.840 Dark Ones, with the Fall October Fest whatever one, the 1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:56.080 oh yeahs Delicious. 1:24:54.720 --> 1:24:56.600 The autumnal mix. Yeah. 1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:59.080 So, Kirk, wait, where are you driving? I know I'm late, 1:24:59.120 --> 1:25:00.559 but like, what what's going on? 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:07.679 I I am driving to a poker tournament. So that's 1:25:07.880 --> 1:25:09.879 and yeah, that's where I'm going. 1:25:10.040 --> 1:25:12.320 Are you in the New York area or the LA area? 1:25:12.400 --> 1:25:12.880 Where are you? 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:14.400 Oh? Los Angeles? 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:16.760 Oh okay, okay. I was like, don't drive in New 1:25:16.840 --> 1:25:17.360 York man. 1:25:18.160 --> 1:25:22.040 Oh god, wait is this just a regular thing for you. 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:23.840 That's poker tournaments. 1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:26.679 You know. So when I'm not working, I play poker tournaments. 1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:30.639 I'm pretty pretty good at poker tournaments. Okay, cash at 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:36.719 cash first place in the last five tournaments in four weeks. 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:39.040 So I'm on a I'm on a heater. 1:25:39.439 --> 1:25:41.559 Yeah, do you count cards? I don't even know if 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:42.479 that applies to poker. 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:47.679 No. No, that's it's the only place. It's the only 1:25:47.680 --> 1:25:52.439 casino game that's really seventy percent skill. And then luck. 1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:57.360 All casino games are luck. Poker poker is so god. 1:25:57.600 --> 1:26:00.760 Yeah, that's why I play Roulette. And that's like dumb luck. 1:26:00.800 --> 1:26:02.679 And that's why I play it because I have no skill. 1:26:03.160 --> 1:26:06.679 Oh god, it's like, you know, thirty seven to one 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:08.800 because you got to count zero and double zero. 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:13.719 Yeah. Yeah, but it's fun. It's fun. 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.360 I mean overall on your I mean, Instagram sometimes is 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.960 a lie. But your life seems great. You're out working out, 1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:24.720 you're eating pizza, in the car. You love your wife, 1:26:24.960 --> 1:26:27.920 you have a beautiful cat, you have kids. 1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:30.160 Oh thank you. 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:31.360 You're kind of crushing it. 1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:35.320 I mean, listen, everybody's got problems, right, Like nothing's perfect, 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:38.599 you're right, like on Instagram, on Twitter, social media in general, 1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:44.479 Like people embellish a lot. I don't use filters like 1:26:44.520 --> 1:26:46.479 I just don't. Like if I do a TV show, 1:26:46.920 --> 1:26:49.600 I never wear makeup. All they do is powder me. 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.559 You know. I don't shine. I do my own hair. 1:26:53.280 --> 1:26:55.720 I never get my hair cut in there. I go 1:26:55.800 --> 1:26:59.559 to my own barber, you know. But yeah, so I 1:26:59.640 --> 1:27:04.479 try not to embellish as much as most people do. 1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:07.840 I'll put it that way. Like we all we all embellish, right, 1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:12.840 but not with stuff like I love my wife. Like 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:14.920 if I didn't love my wife, I'm not posting anything 1:27:14.920 --> 1:27:18.000 about my wife, right, I'm getting a divorced. But that's 1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:19.720 that's not the case, you know what I mean. Like, 1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:23.840 I'm very much like fam I'm a homebody. So like 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:27.360 my wife was the one that was like play poker, 1:27:27.400 --> 1:27:30.360 get out of the house literally, So I was like, 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:31.479 all right. 1:27:32.680 --> 1:27:36.360 And your cat is very beautiful in terms of every 1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:37.760 like it is a gorgeous cat. 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:41.639 Can I curse in here, of course. Yeah, I love 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:46.840 that little fucking thing so much. No, no, no, I you 1:27:46.840 --> 1:27:49.400 know I thought the other like a couple of weeks ago. 1:27:49.680 --> 1:27:52.519 This is true, and like it brings it literally brings 1:27:52.520 --> 1:27:55.880 me to tears. I'm like, she's around three, and I'm like, God, 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:58.400 I hope she lives to like sixteen or seventeen, because, 1:27:59.680 --> 1:28:01.519 like I I literally could break down right now. Like, 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:06.519 I love that fucking thing so much. It's just I've 1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:09.160 never loved an animal so much as I love nothing. 1:28:09.320 --> 1:28:13.840 Oh wow, our listeners are gonna go wild for this 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:14.679 cat content. 1:28:15.040 --> 1:28:17.639 They love the cat. 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:19.840 I never thought I was a cat person. We got 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:22.920 the cat during the beginning of the pandemic, right, or 1:28:22.960 --> 1:28:25.120 like we're bored, let's get a cat. What are the 1:28:25.160 --> 1:28:27.719 worst thing to get a cat for? Right? But wow, 1:28:28.320 --> 1:28:29.320 we love this little thing. 1:28:30.040 --> 1:28:32.160 I love that. I'm glad you're getting time off. Are 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:37.480 you gonna run anymore? Marathon? Was your marathon time really impressive? Uh? 1:28:37.760 --> 1:28:39.599 Three hours? That's like really cool? 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:39.920 Right? 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:44.519 Three hours eight seconds is actually really depressing because if 1:28:44.560 --> 1:28:48.000 you would have told me I trained for two fifty, 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:52.960 but I got hurt at miles sixteen. I tore attendant 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:57.040 in my ankle. The t be alice, and so I 1:28:57.160 --> 1:29:01.800 just thought, okay, my I'm never gonna three hours half 1:29:01.800 --> 1:29:05.160 a mile out. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be close. 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:09.040 And if you'd have told me nine fucking seconds to 1:29:09.120 --> 1:29:14.559 break three fucking hours, nine fucking listen, Okay. The best 1:29:14.600 --> 1:29:18.800 thing ever doing was lay six. The worst experience ever 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:22.000 was not breaking three hours at New York City. MENTA, 1:29:23.640 --> 1:29:27.160 I'll never get that back. I'll never get that that 1:29:27.280 --> 1:29:31.080 shape back, that training back, that everything back, Like. 1:29:33.040 --> 1:29:38.320 It seems so impressive from a runner, but you would 1:29:38.320 --> 1:29:39.160 never do it again. 1:29:40.640 --> 1:29:47.080 So I injured my back really bad doing squats, and 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:52.160 so I can't run the same. I just can't run 1:29:52.200 --> 1:29:57.080 the same. I can't run as fast because something clicks out. 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:00.280 So you know, I'm fine. My back to her like 1:30:00.320 --> 1:30:02.720 I walk and fine and fine, but just with the 1:30:02.840 --> 1:30:08.240 running fast, it just my my spine is just just 1:30:08.360 --> 1:30:11.880 can't take it. I could run slow. Who wants to 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:15.000 run slow? It's like, you know, so, have you. 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:22.000 Ever been injured on a set you play a lot of. 1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:25.040 Yeah, an arrow arrow? I broke my big toe in 1:30:25.080 --> 1:30:27.920 three different places and tore three different ligaments, and I 1:30:27.960 --> 1:30:30.479 was in a boot for three months and I wasn't 1:30:30.560 --> 1:30:35.240 normal for nine months. That was the worst injury. That 1:30:35.360 --> 1:30:39.200 was bad because it still hurts, like when it rains. 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:43.320 And then one of his arrows, like the back part, 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:46.800 you know where the feathers are almost poked my eyeball out. 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:50.000 I had blood and scrape right here at iseld like 1:30:50.040 --> 1:30:53.040 it was bleeding. I thought I lost marble. I was like, 1:30:54.680 --> 1:30:58.280 so yeah, so doing stunts, I'm like, fuck you and 1:30:58.320 --> 1:31:02.240 your stunts. And I'm gonna tell you what everyone thinks, like, oh, 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:05.720 you're manly, you're tough if you do stunts, Like look 1:31:05.720 --> 1:31:07.920 at Tom Cruise. I guess what everybody wants to say, 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:13.639 look at Tom Cruise. I'm like, dumb motherfuckers. Tom Cruise 1:31:13.720 --> 1:31:18.880 gets fifty million if production shuts down because he gets hurt. 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:24.040 The shut down, kirk Assvado gets hurt. You know what happens. 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:28.559 They replace my porttery gnass with a white man. So 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:36.920 fuck you, fuck you. I get hurt. I get hurt. 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:40.240 I don't work, you know what I mean? I love it. Yeah, 1:31:40.280 --> 1:31:44.679 And also it's not stunts are different, right, So I box, 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:48.040 like for more than half my life, right, two thirds 1:31:48.080 --> 1:31:51.360 of my life. I box throwing punches is not the 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:54.320 same on a film set, so you have to time 1:31:54.360 --> 1:31:56.160 it for the camera to the camera to pick up. 1:31:56.280 --> 1:32:00.320 So it's mostly wide punches and you normally get hurt 1:32:00.320 --> 1:32:04.080 doing that. Yeah, it's not the same as really hitting someone, 1:32:04.520 --> 1:32:07.040 really hitting someone. The energy comes back to you, you know, 1:32:07.360 --> 1:32:08.920 not that you really want to hit I don't you know. 1:32:08.920 --> 1:32:12.360 I could known that, but I'm saying, yeah, you tend, 1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:15.000 you tend to get hurt more with stunts because you're 1:32:15.040 --> 1:32:19.519 pulling everything, you know what I mean? Right, So, yes, 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:20.639 I've been hurt a lot. 1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:24.400 So you had, you know, several scenes with Marishka. Everyone 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:26.639 we ever talked to you is obsessed with her, loves her. 1:32:26.800 --> 1:32:30.080 Did you enjoy her just the way everyone else did. 1:32:30.240 --> 1:32:33.600 Oh, she's she's great. She's absolutely great. She's a sweetheart. 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:37.160 I wish I had more scenes with her. But the 1:32:37.200 --> 1:32:40.360 scene I had, she's like amazing. She's fun. She's like 1:32:40.400 --> 1:32:44.000 sayings likes dancing. It's the same thing. You know, work serious, 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:50.400 but then you know, have fun. It can't be you know, 1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:53.439 like not the segue. But people talk about Oz and 1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:56.840 they're like, hey, was it like hot? Was it intense? No? 1:32:57.800 --> 1:33:01.240 We cracked jokes twenty four seven because we had to 1:33:01.240 --> 1:33:04.120 because it was so heavy, you know what I mean, Like, 1:33:04.200 --> 1:33:07.240 what's happening to you today, Kirk? I'm like, ah, I 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:10.280 gotta be naked in the shower today and blah blah blah, 1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:16.240 and the water's really cold. I'm just letting you know. Water. 1:33:17.320 --> 1:33:20.120 So we would crack jokes all the time, like some 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:23.680 guys getting like, you know, like taking advantage of it. 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:26.320 We would have to crack jokes, you know. And it's 1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:28.919 the same thing with Mariska, Like it's so heavy the material. 1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:33.240 You can't carry that every episode, every scene for fucking 1:33:33.320 --> 1:33:37.240 twenty years, Like you wouldn't be human, it'd be you know, 1:33:37.600 --> 1:33:37.960 you have. 1:33:37.880 --> 1:33:41.559 That fun And she's how was Thin Red Line? Was 1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:43.880 that a fun set? Because that's another heavy thing and 1:33:43.960 --> 1:33:47.000 band of brothers you do a lot of intense stuff. 1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:50.680 Thin Relne was I think my first film, and that 1:33:50.880 --> 1:33:53.200 was so much fun. The reason why I was so 1:33:53.280 --> 1:33:55.599 much fun, Oh god, I can't even tell you these 1:33:55.640 --> 1:33:57.960 stories that these stories would have to be just put 1:33:58.000 --> 1:34:01.559 it this way. So you're playing basketball with like George 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:05.280 Clooney Woody House and every night when they were on 1:34:05.400 --> 1:34:07.519 when they were there filming their stuff. I was there 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:15.000 for six months, and you know, Jim Covisil and the 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:20.080 fist fights that would happen. My couldn't miss the fist 1:34:20.160 --> 1:34:24.519 fights that would happen. I can't say between basketball. Yes, 1:34:25.160 --> 1:34:28.360 certain people thought they could play basketball and they couldn't. 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:32.640 Jim Covizil played Division one basketball. I'll just leave that 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:35.800 out there. So there's a there's listen. I used to 1:34:35.800 --> 1:34:38.840 play basketball all the time, and I'm not. When I 1:34:38.920 --> 1:34:43.599 was younger, I was great defensively, I couldn't shoot the ball. 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:45.720 I'm small, but I was just the guy that no 1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:49.200 one wanted on him blah blah. And so I played 1:34:49.200 --> 1:34:52.120 with guys that were like in the G League and 1:34:52.160 --> 1:34:56.000 blah blah blah. They looked like Allen Iverson? Did you 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:59.599 got what I'm saying? So compared to actors who think 1:34:59.600 --> 1:35:03.800 they could play basketball, playing against someone that's Division one 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:08.280 and Jim Caviezel the only reason why he didn't take 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:12.120 it further he completely blew out his ACL. That was 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:16.519 back then before they had reconstructive surgery, so yeah, you 1:35:16.560 --> 1:35:19.760 know it was. And then his wife would play We 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:22.600 played Division one two and she was elbowing me in 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:27.280 the ribs Man and I was like this, Jim, is 1:35:27.320 --> 1:35:27.960 that with your wife? 1:35:27.960 --> 1:35:28.080 Man? 1:35:29.880 --> 1:35:36.080 Yeah, very very so. My rooms is still hurting. But 1:35:36.720 --> 1:35:40.400 Bonds stuff, I mean the pranks on set with Sean 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:44.600 Penn doing pranks and Woody House and epic pranks that 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:49.080 could have gotten people killed, Like just epic stuff. I'm 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:51.000 sorry I can't share it because it's just one of 1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:55.360 those things I probably can't share, you know, so, But yes, 1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:57.720 then Red Line was a lot of fun, a lot 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.800 of fun. Terrence Malix the best sounds like Kermit the 1:36:00.840 --> 1:36:03.800 Frog in the best way, like his voice, you know, 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:07.040 so good, good good ship. Yeah, you know, I am. 1:36:07.040 --> 1:36:09.879 dB talks about your voice. It's really funny. 1:36:10.240 --> 1:36:14.480 IMDb says, like your trademark is your deep raspy. 1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:19.160 Voice, my deep brass, my deep raspy voice. Yeah, you know, 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:22.280 it's a funny. I get two things. I get I 1:36:22.320 --> 1:36:25.680 love your voice, or I get are you sick. 1:36:25.479 --> 1:36:27.760 You need tea? 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:31.000 Now? You know it's funny because I heard the change 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:34.519 in my voice. So my voice was always deep, but 1:36:34.720 --> 1:36:38.519 it's gotten more raspy as I I have gotten old. 1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:42.080 It wasn't raspy when I was younger at all. And 1:36:42.080 --> 1:36:46.400 that's what I missed because my achilles heel, my greatest strength, 1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:50.800 like is my voice, but my achilles heel is my 1:36:50.880 --> 1:36:53.880 voice too. Because I can't do theater anymore. And that's 1:36:54.040 --> 1:36:59.719 because it won't hold up. I'll lose my voice, no damn. Yeah, yeah, 1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:02.840 and then that's I love. I mean, you know, I mean, 1:37:03.320 --> 1:37:07.240 I've done Shepherd plays and stuff like that, and I 1:37:07.600 --> 1:37:10.559 missed theater. I can't do it. I've been offered, I've 1:37:10.600 --> 1:37:14.240 been offered stuff, and I'm like, I just worry that 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:16.519 my voice is not going to hold up, especially the 1:37:16.560 --> 1:37:19.479 stuff that I would do, which is very emotional stuff 1:37:19.479 --> 1:37:23.080 and edgy, like big and explosive, and I'm like, there's 1:37:23.120 --> 1:37:25.880 just no way I could give you fifty percent. I'd 1:37:25.880 --> 1:37:29.599 want to do ninety five to one hundred every show, 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:31.439 so and I couldn't. 1:37:31.880 --> 1:37:34.400 Yeah, night after night that for like a long run. 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:35.400 That's tough. Yeah. 1:37:35.960 --> 1:37:38.639 Even when I was younger, we do it shows a week. 1:37:39.160 --> 1:37:41.400 And I was doing the Shepherd play and Tibo and 1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:44.639 Burnett wrote the music and I had to sing two 1:37:44.760 --> 1:37:50.080 songs and Anofrio was in it, Vincitrio. I couldn't talk 1:37:50.280 --> 1:37:53.920 throughout the whole fucking week I was on voice rest 1:37:54.040 --> 1:37:58.320 every fucking months. Man, Like my life was miserable, like 1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:01.920 it was you were, you're I can't talk. I can't 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:03.640 talk on the phone. And even back then I had 1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:05.519 a phone. Kids talk on the phone, could talk to 1:38:05.560 --> 1:38:08.919 people like I'm on voice ress, I'm tea and ginger 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:12.720 and water and water. And it was miserable. I had 1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:16.240 fun on stage, but that's what you're doing it for. 1:38:16.760 --> 1:38:19.600 And then every performance is like, well, take off the 1:38:19.600 --> 1:38:21.599 bat name because it's kids, and I'm like, no, I 1:38:21.640 --> 1:38:25.080 can't take off this show, like meaning take off, like 1:38:25.600 --> 1:38:29.240 give them sixty percent. I can't. My acting teachers are coming. 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:32.120 I can't. That motherfucker hates coming. 1:38:32.400 --> 1:38:33.000 I can't. 1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:35.960 My ex is coming. I got to show her why 1:38:36.000 --> 1:38:41.080 she fucked up. You know, every every every motivation you 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:44.880 have to use, like I can't be complacent. I'm so competitive. 1:38:45.280 --> 1:38:48.439 I can't be complacent. I just can't. You rob people 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:51.519 of there seventy five eighty dollars or whatever they paid. 1:38:51.560 --> 1:38:53.839 I can't do it. I can't do it. 1:38:54.560 --> 1:38:56.720 You know so many people, have you ever been starstruck? 1:38:57.320 --> 1:39:01.960 Yes, one time in my life. Felix Trinidad Oscar de 1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:04.640 la Hoya fight back in the day. I used to 1:39:04.640 --> 1:39:09.639 work for HBO. We got free tickets, and I'm sitting 1:39:09.800 --> 1:39:15.240 right behind Leonardo DiCaprio and Tobey maguire and every time 1:39:15.360 --> 1:39:18.400 the rose are so small you have to stand ups 1:39:18.400 --> 1:39:21.720 to people to pass. And there's three CITs, three seats 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:25.200 to the right of me that are empty, and every 1:39:25.200 --> 1:39:27.600 time somebody would passed, they'd stuck on my shoes. You know. 1:39:27.640 --> 1:39:30.759 I got like, you know, like my proud of shoes, 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:35.240 you know, my shoe free, and they put this stick 1:39:35.320 --> 1:39:37.840 on my shoes. I'm like, I get up again, and 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:39.679 I'm no, I'm looking at my shoes. I'm not looking 1:39:39.720 --> 1:39:41.760 to see what's come. I'm making sure no one steps in. 1:39:42.240 --> 1:39:44.120 And then somebody steps on my shoes again, and I 1:39:44.120 --> 1:39:47.080 look at my buddy Raps. I'm like, motherfuckers, keep on 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:50.960 stepping on my fucking shoes. And this guy's just down 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:53.720 next to me, and I look, I haven't looked at 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:57.400 who it was, and his leg is touching mine, like 1:39:57.479 --> 1:39:59.840 I'm like Jesus fucking and I'm not a big guy. 1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:03.280 I'm like Jesus fucking Christ. Now he's like taking over 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:05.600 the seat, and I look at my buddy Rath and 1:40:05.640 --> 1:40:11.160 He's looks at me like yeah, and I look and 1:40:11.200 --> 1:40:16.000 it's Jack fucking Nicholason. And for three three fucking hours, 1:40:16.400 --> 1:40:18.960 because he's a boxing head and a sports fanatic and 1:40:19.000 --> 1:40:22.559 so am I. We spoke for three fucking hours, him 1:40:22.600 --> 1:40:25.120 and his best buddy that's always there, the crazy long 1:40:25.160 --> 1:40:27.880 hair white guy, and Laura flim Boyle at the time, 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:32.839 who he was seeing, Wow, And and we spoke literally 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:38.000 now stop. He's there for all the fights. And he's 1:40:38.040 --> 1:40:41.800 saying something to me and he's like, you know who 1:40:41.840 --> 1:40:44.519 you look like? And he was mentioning some old school 1:40:44.600 --> 1:40:49.280 boxer and I'm just looking at his mouth and I'm 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:52.360 not hearing anything. I'm just looking at his mouth. And 1:40:52.400 --> 1:40:56.080 he goes like this, are you okay? Like I didn't 1:40:56.080 --> 1:40:57.920 mean to offend you, And I go, no, what do 1:40:57.920 --> 1:41:00.840 you mean. He's like, he's a good looking guy. So 1:41:00.880 --> 1:41:03.400 the person he was describing me like, say, you look 1:41:03.439 --> 1:41:05.760 like this guy. And I was like, and he just 1:41:05.800 --> 1:41:08.320 caught me in a moment where I'm just staring at 1:41:08.320 --> 1:41:08.800 his mouth. 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:10.200 Wait. 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:13.520 You also, you had some scenes with raoul A Sparza. 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:14.840 Did you guys get along? 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:15.280 Yeah? 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:16.200 You like him? 1:41:16.760 --> 1:41:19.400 Yeah? Nice guy, I mean, first time, first am. I 1:41:19.400 --> 1:41:23.599 am very nice, you know, and you know it's great 1:41:23.640 --> 1:41:29.360 about people like Marishka and Raoul or anyone who does this. 1:41:29.880 --> 1:41:33.439 When you come on someone's show, you're helping their show. 1:41:34.160 --> 1:41:36.320 Whether you're a guest star, whether you do one scene, 1:41:36.479 --> 1:41:40.240 you're helping their show. It's their show. What they should 1:41:40.280 --> 1:41:43.439 do is welcome you into their show. And both of 1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:47.200 them are a plus in doing that. And so for me, 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:51.880 I've worked on shows where the leads are assholes and 1:41:51.920 --> 1:41:54.360 you're like, I don't even want to be here. I 1:41:54.400 --> 1:41:56.240 don't even want to do good work for you. I 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:58.920 don't want to do good work for you. I don't 1:41:59.360 --> 1:42:04.000 like here you are. You're the top two percent in 1:42:04.040 --> 1:42:07.479 our union. You have a job as a number one, 1:42:07.560 --> 1:42:09.960 number two, number three on a call sheet, and you're 1:42:10.000 --> 1:42:12.720 an asshole and you're not that good. And it's like, 1:42:13.400 --> 1:42:15.320 you know what I mean. It's it's so for me 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:20.679 and the show where I was one of the leads, man, 1:42:21.400 --> 1:42:25.120 I'm like, hey, can we get Starbucks? What Starbucks? You want? 1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:28.519 Can we get this? What do you want? Everything? I 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:31.880 make sure like you have to take care of them. 1:42:33.080 --> 1:42:37.200 It's maybe it's because I grew up having to, like, 1:42:37.720 --> 1:42:40.280 you know, you have to take care of people, you 1:42:40.360 --> 1:42:42.439 know what I mean, And you know, in this business 1:42:42.479 --> 1:42:46.360 as a hierarchy, and unfortunately it's like it shits all 1:42:46.400 --> 1:42:48.920 the way down. So I just to make sure it 1:42:48.960 --> 1:42:53.280 doesn't happen to those people on OZ, the extras, the 1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:56.840 day players, you know who played the background, right, the 1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:00.040 guys in prison, they were there every show. So the 1:43:00.080 --> 1:43:03.800 first season, how it works on movie sets or TV 1:43:03.920 --> 1:43:07.879 sets is background has to wait till the principal actors 1:43:08.240 --> 1:43:12.360 eat first. We made sure that never happened. Season one, 1:43:12.600 --> 1:43:16.720 episode two, we made sure that never happened. So the 1:43:16.760 --> 1:43:21.719 background on OZ ate alongside us and we waited behind. 1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:24.680 It didn't matter. We made sure all the actors made 1:43:24.680 --> 1:43:25.439 sure that did it happened. 1:43:26.120 --> 1:43:29.040 Wait, so you're an actor and your brother's a federal agent, 1:43:29.280 --> 1:43:31.760 your brother you play the roles that your brother does 1:43:31.800 --> 1:43:32.400 in real life. 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:33.360 Yeah? 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:36.000 Yeah. And also I have a half brother he's also 1:43:37.479 --> 1:43:41.640 a DC, a police officer in DC, and he was 1:43:41.680 --> 1:43:44.400 there fucking January. 1:43:43.920 --> 1:43:45.280 Sixth Oh my god. 1:43:46.479 --> 1:43:49.160 Yeah, so yeah, like I got it, Like it's sterical. 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:51.680 All my brothers are like law enforcement. 1:43:52.800 --> 1:43:55.439 And wait, but you play so much law enforcement, do 1:43:55.560 --> 1:43:57.840 you talk to them and ask questions or do they 1:43:57.880 --> 1:43:59.600 make fun of you, like, what's the dynamic? 1:44:01.240 --> 1:44:03.800 No? No, no, I mean it's as long as I 1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:06.519 hold the weapon properly. And you know, it's so funny. 1:44:06.520 --> 1:44:10.479 It's like the guy who did What's What's that? Not 1:44:10.560 --> 1:44:13.320 Hill Street Blues? What was the one after Hill Street Blues? 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:21.120 Big cop show? So I did like eight season. You 1:44:21.160 --> 1:44:26.560 know it's Dennis France, lovely man and the on set 1:44:26.760 --> 1:44:32.320 technical advisor and c was also a producer and an asshole. Ah, 1:44:35.520 --> 1:44:37.639 I was a beat cop and it's outside of the school. 1:44:37.640 --> 1:44:40.240 I have my hands in the buck. He's like, hey, 1:44:41.080 --> 1:44:45.080 no police officer, whatever happens hands in his pocket? And 1:44:45.160 --> 1:44:48.960 I go, oh, yes, they would. I go, I live 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:51.200 in New York. On my life, I've seen cops with 1:44:51.240 --> 1:44:53.519 their hands in their pocket because it's cold. And he's like, 1:44:54.120 --> 1:44:57.000 it's not true, and I'm like, he wanted me to 1:44:57.000 --> 1:44:59.000 play a cop this way, and I'm like, this is 1:44:59.080 --> 1:45:03.400 my interpretation, motherfucker, my interpretation. I don't care if you're 1:45:03.439 --> 1:45:07.000 a producer. I don't care who you are. You don't 1:45:07.040 --> 1:45:09.640 tell me how to perform. You don't do that. You're 1:45:09.680 --> 1:45:13.240 not the director. And then even if like I'm like 1:45:13.560 --> 1:45:17.439 I'm more successful at what I do than what you do. 1:45:17.439 --> 1:45:20.720 Don't tell me how to play this. So like my 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:22.880 I told it to my brother, my older brother, he's like, 1:45:23.200 --> 1:45:26.400 fucking idiot, doesn't know what he's talking about. And he's 1:45:26.400 --> 1:45:29.920 also like a Chicago cop, like it's it's just a different, 1:45:30.560 --> 1:45:33.080 it's a different I got no faulter, Well, we'll let 1:45:33.080 --> 1:45:33.439 you go. 1:45:33.600 --> 1:45:34.839 I mean, this is awesome. 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:38.160 Do you have anything coming up you'd like to tell 1:45:38.160 --> 1:45:38.799 people about. 1:45:39.280 --> 1:45:44.160 Yeah, writing with my wife. We're writing three different projects 1:45:44.240 --> 1:45:47.760 right now, three different things. It's very, very hard to 1:45:47.760 --> 1:45:53.080 write three different things. So but each day is a 1:45:53.160 --> 1:45:58.120 different task. And but just waiting out the writer's strike 1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:00.720 and I hope the writers get what they want and 1:46:01.960 --> 1:46:04.840 the actors get what they want. It's well deserved. We 1:46:05.520 --> 1:46:07.400 can't work without the other. 1:46:08.040 --> 1:46:12.439 And uh, well today I woke up and one video 1:46:12.479 --> 1:46:14.800 I saw that one of the executives straight up was like, 1:46:14.840 --> 1:46:17.320 we're gonna use AI and we're gonna use AI eventually 1:46:17.320 --> 1:46:20.960 for editing too, and it's like, what the fuck? 1:46:22.240 --> 1:46:26.080 The AI isn't good enough? So so AI for voice 1:46:26.320 --> 1:46:32.200 overs you could do, but AI for my face in 1:46:32.280 --> 1:46:34.920 a live action I don't think AI is good enough. 1:46:35.000 --> 1:46:38.920 Yet, Yeah, we're human. Can we not have human experiences? 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:40.160 It's so fucked up. 1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:46.040 And listen like, so they think like, let's just cast 1:46:46.080 --> 1:46:49.280 an AI, right, let's just let's just go there. Who's 1:46:49.320 --> 1:46:51.639 going to act for the I What I mean by 1:46:51.680 --> 1:46:55.559 this is this, So a lot of the beautiful moments 1:46:55.600 --> 1:47:01.200 happen in the mistakes, right, So in a flow of 1:47:01.200 --> 1:47:04.400 a line and someone ad libs, that's where the beauty 1:47:04.439 --> 1:47:07.880 comes in. AI doesn't know how to do that. The 1:47:07.960 --> 1:47:12.479 magic is in the mistakes. So the same thing, for instance, 1:47:13.720 --> 1:47:16.880 in close range with Christopher Walking and Sean Penn, Right, 1:47:17.320 --> 1:47:21.880 so the the heated scene between the two where Sean 1:47:21.920 --> 1:47:26.439 Penn pulls out the gun on Christopher Walking, Sean Penn 1:47:27.000 --> 1:47:30.920 pulled out a gun because didn't expect then the gun 1:47:30.960 --> 1:47:33.439 to be in the scene and then fires it off 1:47:33.560 --> 1:47:35.439 next to him, but it was a blank and he 1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:40.719 put the blank in so that that reaction is original. 1:47:40.800 --> 1:47:43.400 AI doesn't know how to do that, those moments that 1:47:43.600 --> 1:47:46.559 talented real actors know how to do and how to 1:47:46.680 --> 1:47:51.400 draw out other actors. A. I can't do that. Hey, 1:47:51.439 --> 1:47:53.080 I can't do that. You told me A I could 1:47:53.120 --> 1:47:58.280 act as well as Meryl Street no, what are you thinking. 1:47:58.720 --> 1:48:02.160 It's not ready yet. It's not ready yet. You could 1:48:02.240 --> 1:48:06.599 it could only do what you program it to do, right, 1:48:07.200 --> 1:48:11.280 So it doesn't understand nuance. That's another thing they can't 1:48:11.280 --> 1:48:16.240 do nuance like you watch truly Magalie deeply right with 1:48:16.400 --> 1:48:20.879 the girls talking are her therapist about her dead husband, 1:48:21.240 --> 1:48:26.000 Alan Boan, the great Alan Rickman and Julia Stevenson. I 1:48:26.000 --> 1:48:29.840 think is the actress name And in that monologue, she 1:48:29.960 --> 1:48:36.200 gets angry, she cries, she laughs, she gets angry and laughs. Fuck, 1:48:36.240 --> 1:48:37.839 I got chills right now. If thinking of that performance. 1:48:37.840 --> 1:48:39.600 If you've never seen that film, see it. 1:48:39.880 --> 1:48:41.920 I typed it in. I'm gonna watch it. Yeah, I've 1:48:42.000 --> 1:48:43.160 not seen that and I love it. 1:48:43.560 --> 1:48:47.680 Performance is fucking film. You're gonna be like, why have 1:48:47.760 --> 1:48:51.800 I never heard of this woman? Because she's brilliant and 1:48:52.720 --> 1:48:56.000 AI can't do that. AI can't make choices like that. 1:48:56.479 --> 1:49:00.439 For sure. Well, we were happy we got you to 1:49:00.520 --> 1:49:02.840 talk to us. We're excited. 1:49:04.160 --> 1:49:06.040 And well yeah we'll look out for like the projects 1:49:06.080 --> 1:49:08.400 with you and your wife, And thank you so much 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:11.439 for talking to us en route to Pokersia. 1:49:11.800 --> 1:49:14.120 You guys are the best. I had fun. 1:49:14.080 --> 1:49:19.120 Wishing you a lot of royal flushes or whatever. 1:49:20.760 --> 1:49:22.960 That was incredible. I'm obsessed with him. 1:49:23.120 --> 1:49:25.680 I love that he's gambling, he loves his wife, he 1:49:25.720 --> 1:49:26.519 loves his cat. 1:49:27.200 --> 1:49:28.080 He is the best. 1:49:28.120 --> 1:49:30.479 I mean, I think I've fallen in love with a 1:49:30.520 --> 1:49:33.160 few of our guests, but Kirk's definitely getting at it. 1:49:33.200 --> 1:49:37.639 To the list of I'm smitten, I'm obsessed. I'm also just. 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:40.400 Like love how we keep finding out who's married to 1:49:40.439 --> 1:49:43.200 each other, like his wife, like I remember so well 1:49:43.200 --> 1:49:44.680 from Staved by the Ball of the New Class, and 1:49:44.720 --> 1:49:47.800 it's like I just was, like, these two people are married. 1:49:47.880 --> 1:49:50.160 Like it's just like scrambles my brain every time we 1:49:50.200 --> 1:49:52.519 figure it out. But I love it, and I love. 1:49:52.400 --> 1:49:55.040 The little tidbits about Oz, like it's such a little thing, 1:49:55.240 --> 1:49:57.840 just like, yeah, we eat all together, whether you're a 1:49:57.880 --> 1:50:04.320 background or not. Our business is so like the monarchy 1:50:04.479 --> 1:50:05.000 or something. 1:50:05.160 --> 1:50:07.719 It's it's so funny. Wait. 1:50:07.760 --> 1:50:11.160 I also, I don't want this to go unnoticed, but 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:14.960 your intro you did call his character a loyal knucklehead, 1:50:15.560 --> 1:50:17.880 and that was very funny to me. 1:50:19.880 --> 1:50:21.640 Because I was in love. We gotta give that. We 1:50:21.720 --> 1:50:22.799 got to give that up to Casey. 1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:26.000 Casey put that in the in the outline. That's a Casey. 1:50:26.160 --> 1:50:27.440 That's a Casey editorial. 1:50:27.880 --> 1:50:33.200 Love knucklehead edition, obsessed, obsessed with this episode. 1:50:33.400 --> 1:50:36.040 Stop sending dick picks to teens. 1:50:36.280 --> 1:50:39.960 That is not like honestly, like, I don't know how 1:50:39.960 --> 1:50:42.000 to get it through everybody's head at this point. Like 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:45.479 the internet is forever. Nothing is, nothing can be deleted, nothing. 1:50:45.560 --> 1:50:47.800 You're not gonna not get busted for anything you do 1:50:47.840 --> 1:50:48.479 on the Internet. 1:50:48.600 --> 1:50:51.160 Like it's just it's forever. 1:50:51.640 --> 1:50:54.200 Oh, speaking of, there are news episodes of The Black 1:50:54.240 --> 1:50:59.200 Mirror coming out. Oh that Jared Goldstein not a guest 1:50:59.240 --> 1:51:00.599 to the pot, but a for end of the pod 1:51:00.640 --> 1:51:04.240 in a literal sense, is in. It is in one 1:51:04.240 --> 1:51:06.280 of the episodes. So I can't fucking wait. 1:51:06.520 --> 1:51:07.000 So cool. 1:51:07.280 --> 1:51:08.599 Yeah, I talked to him about it when he did 1:51:08.600 --> 1:51:10.400 my show a couple weeks ago, and I was like, OKA, 1:51:10.479 --> 1:51:11.120 wait to see it. 1:51:11.320 --> 1:51:13.160 I can't because I don't know if I would be 1:51:13.200 --> 1:51:15.559 as appointment television, Like, you know, obviously I'll watch a 1:51:15.600 --> 1:51:19.200 Black Mirror, of course, but like I think at midnight 1:51:19.360 --> 1:51:21.240 strike of midnight, I cannot wait. 1:51:21.840 --> 1:51:22.880 I love Black Mirror. 1:51:22.880 --> 1:51:26.040 I'm excited for that, but yeah, like just it's just 1:51:26.360 --> 1:51:31.120 you know, politicians are no better than athletes or celebrity 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:33.479 like movie stars or anything, and just thinking that they 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:36.120 can kind of get away with stuff like, oh, I'm 1:51:36.120 --> 1:51:37.800 just at a level where I'm not gonna get caught. 1:51:37.800 --> 1:51:41.000 And it's like, but you've seen every person get caught 1:51:41.040 --> 1:51:44.000 time after time. It's not about the United States is 1:51:44.200 --> 1:51:46.439 being indicted as we speak. 1:51:46.720 --> 1:51:49.559 It's not about the job what they all have to 1:51:49.680 --> 1:51:50.480 It's arrogance. 1:51:51.160 --> 1:51:52.440 Yeah, it's arrogance. 1:51:52.720 --> 1:51:56.439 It's like they all are just so arrogant and not 1:51:56.560 --> 1:51:58.280 to bring us up because it is sad and I 1:51:58.320 --> 1:52:00.240 can't stop talking about it even though I show I 1:52:00.240 --> 1:52:02.080 think all everyone is sick of it in my life. 1:52:02.400 --> 1:52:04.840 No, it's not vander Pump. It's that boy being eaten 1:52:04.840 --> 1:52:05.479 by sharks. 1:52:06.200 --> 1:52:12.439 Like Eric, you're not jumping the water and not get 1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:13.280 eaten by a shark. 1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:16.400 The shark won't get me. It's like there will get you. 1:52:16.720 --> 1:52:19.120 But also I get why men think they'll get away 1:52:19.120 --> 1:52:21.759 with it because they do. 1:52:21.560 --> 1:52:25.479 A lot they have they have Yeah, yeah, I just 1:52:25.640 --> 1:52:29.360 feel like even more, it's just you're less likely to 1:52:29.360 --> 1:52:31.200 get away with shit now that there's the Internet. Like 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:33.479 I'm just we constantly are seeing every day people getting 1:52:33.479 --> 1:52:38.559 busted like congressmen or governors like writing to gay boys 1:52:38.640 --> 1:52:41.040 on their instagrams, being like you look great, you know, 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:44.439 even though they're trying to promote anti gay legislation. 1:52:44.160 --> 1:52:46.479 Or like Trump or any of these people. 1:52:46.479 --> 1:52:50.680 It's like, you guys are so fucking dumb and you 1:52:50.760 --> 1:52:53.080 have a I don't know, it's like it has nothing 1:52:53.120 --> 1:52:55.040 to do with it, but I'm like, you have this beautiful, 1:52:55.120 --> 1:52:58.400 dynamic wife at home, Like why are you sending pictures 1:52:58.400 --> 1:53:01.360 of your bulging crotch to like random set seventeen year 1:53:01.360 --> 1:53:03.960 olds on the internet. Like, but that's not what it's about, right, 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:07.800 It's not about your what like your wife is not 1:53:08.160 --> 1:53:10.320 is or isn't doing. It's about like these guys being 1:53:10.439 --> 1:53:12.599 arrogant and need obsessed with attention. 1:53:14.000 --> 1:53:16.400 Yeah, and the power element of it, because you know, 1:53:16.520 --> 1:53:20.240 Louis always comes up in convos and it's like lots 1:53:20.240 --> 1:53:21.640 of people would have done it. He had money to 1:53:21.720 --> 1:53:24.160 hire sex worker, like all this stuff he didn't want. 1:53:24.600 --> 1:53:27.840 He wanted to make people uncomfortable, like that you don't 1:53:27.880 --> 1:53:30.240 take out your dick at work for fun, like it 1:53:30.280 --> 1:53:31.880 is to make someone uncomfortable. 1:53:31.920 --> 1:53:34.920 That is like a part of it. Yeah, I don't 1:53:34.960 --> 1:53:37.280 you know, they're just like a little. 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:40.840 Sickos and I guess like what we've learned is like, 1:53:40.880 --> 1:53:43.439 if you're gonna make up a fake screen name, like 1:53:43.760 --> 1:53:48.880 just I don't know, go with something simple Steve one two, three, seven, 1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:52.960 four five, Like let's not do Carlos danger or what 1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:57.679 was like one in the show Something Trouble, Enrique Trouble 1:53:57.760 --> 1:53:58.719 and Rique Trouble. 1:53:59.720 --> 1:54:01.000 It's disgusting. 1:54:01.439 --> 1:54:04.719 It's the and you're old, you're lame, You're chew gee 1:54:04.800 --> 1:54:07.599 as they say, right, is that did I just become 1:54:07.720 --> 1:54:15.120 chewgye by not even correct? I yeah, you're like, ugh, 1:54:15.520 --> 1:54:20.320 it's just disgusting. Yeah, Like every I don't know, Oh, 1:54:20.439 --> 1:54:24.240 it's listen, I don't know what we learned the same 1:54:24.280 --> 1:54:25.960 things over and over in every episode. 1:54:26.080 --> 1:54:29.120 It's well no, I mean I thought this episode was 1:54:29.160 --> 1:54:32.480 interesting too, because like it really like we threw Barbara. 1:54:32.600 --> 1:54:35.280 We saw the like whole loyalty thing, like are you 1:54:35.360 --> 1:54:38.760 loyal to your pals back home? Like are you all 1:54:38.800 --> 1:54:40.880 of you struggle to make it to the top. But 1:54:40.960 --> 1:54:42.800 now some people are letting it go to their head, 1:54:42.920 --> 1:54:44.640 like how do you handle that? 1:54:44.960 --> 1:54:48.040 So the wife did make the wrong choice. You should 1:54:48.040 --> 1:54:56.520 have been with Barbara? Yeah, Barbara's the better person human mate, probably, like, 1:54:57.400 --> 1:54:59.920 I don't think Barbara would pull this kind of shit. 1:55:00.760 --> 1:55:02.120 Yeah, and we all know he would have eaten your 1:55:02.160 --> 1:55:08.000 ass like a champ, right, Yeah, so stupid. That's just 1:55:08.040 --> 1:55:10.720 a reference to our live shows where we ask people that, you, guys, 1:55:10.760 --> 1:55:12.440 in case you're like, what are you talking about? We 1:55:12.480 --> 1:55:16.160 don't know anything about actual Barba's analingus abilities. We just 1:55:16.600 --> 1:55:18.720 like to talk about it at our live shows. Should 1:55:18.720 --> 1:55:20.200 we move on to what would sister Peg do? 1:55:20.720 --> 1:55:21.600 That would be lovely? 1:55:22.800 --> 1:55:25.760 You know this segment, guys, this is where we give you, guys, 1:55:25.920 --> 1:55:31.280 a article, an organization, a podcast, episode, a doc, something 1:55:31.400 --> 1:55:33.520 to flesh out a little bit more about what we 1:55:33.560 --> 1:55:35.440 talked about in today's episode. And we thought this week 1:55:35.480 --> 1:55:38.839 we would just point you to the twenty sixteen documentary Wiener. 1:55:39.280 --> 1:55:41.640 The doc follows Anthony Wiener as he stages an attempted 1:55:41.680 --> 1:55:44.680 comeback from his sexting scandal by running for mayor of 1:55:44.680 --> 1:55:48.200 New York City. It is showing for free on plex. 1:55:48.240 --> 1:55:49.680 I don't know what that is, but the link is 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.680 in our show notes and on our Instagram and saved 1:55:52.720 --> 1:55:54.200 in our Instagram highlights. 1:55:53.800 --> 1:55:55.000 Called WWSPD two. 1:55:55.080 --> 1:55:57.040 So you could just click on that, or you can 1:55:57.080 --> 1:55:58.880 honestly just google it and it pops right up. You 1:55:58.920 --> 1:56:02.160 could just watch this on Plex immediately, I think, just 1:56:02.200 --> 1:56:04.920 if you want to sort of see where some of 1:56:04.960 --> 1:56:07.920 the like delusion of these politicians is that this guy 1:56:08.000 --> 1:56:10.080 knew he had more shit out there on himself, and he's, like, 1:56:10.120 --> 1:56:12.360 you know what, hopping into the mayoral race. 1:56:12.800 --> 1:56:13.880 So check it out if you feel it. 1:56:13.960 --> 1:56:16.480 Not only that, while you were talking, I was re 1:56:16.480 --> 1:56:19.800 reminded his last name is Wiener, Like I know you. Also, 1:56:19.960 --> 1:56:22.080 just why don't you straight lace it if your last 1:56:22.120 --> 1:56:22.760 name is Wiener? 1:56:22.960 --> 1:56:23.400 How about that? 1:56:23.440 --> 1:56:25.360 You gotta be on your best behavior if your last 1:56:25.440 --> 1:56:29.080 name is Wiener. I'm sorry, my god. I used to 1:56:29.120 --> 1:56:32.120 work with a guy, but he went by Winer. I 1:56:32.120 --> 1:56:34.960 guess it's like to each to each their own. 1:56:35.880 --> 1:56:41.000 But yeah, and next week we have a fucked up 1:56:41.040 --> 1:56:46.920 episode as always waiting for you. PTSD season ten, episode nine, 1:56:47.400 --> 1:56:52.280 watch on Hulu or Peacock, which has become my holy grail. 1:56:52.440 --> 1:56:55.160 I don't know what I would do without Peacock. After 1:56:55.240 --> 1:56:58.760 we finish today, I am going to watch the uncensored 1:56:59.600 --> 1:57:02.520 Jersey Housewives reunion extent. 1:57:02.640 --> 1:57:03.880 Oh, I gotta watch the last part. 1:57:03.960 --> 1:57:06.600 I watched that with the husbands well because all I 1:57:06.600 --> 1:57:08.720 see are the memes and everyone's like John fudah is 1:57:08.720 --> 1:57:10.320 a real one, John Fuda, So I. 1:57:10.280 --> 1:57:12.480 Was like, yeah, wait to see what John. I can't 1:57:12.520 --> 1:57:15.839 wait to see what John Fuda does. Good. That's so true. 1:57:16.000 --> 1:57:17.520 I saw one last night before I went to bed 1:57:17.520 --> 1:57:18.960 that was like the one guy you don't want to 1:57:18.960 --> 1:57:20.480 fuck with is John Fuda, And I was. 1:57:20.400 --> 1:57:21.520 Like, what did John Fuda do? 1:57:21.720 --> 1:57:24.800 So I'm pumped because he's been silent and drunk the 1:57:24.880 --> 1:57:25.720 whole season. 1:57:25.960 --> 1:57:27.360 Yeah, and all of a. 1:57:27.360 --> 1:57:30.160 Sudden, everyone's just like, let's all get in line and 1:57:30.240 --> 1:57:32.760 suck John Fuda's dick. He protects his family and he 1:57:32.760 --> 1:57:35.440 doesn't give a fuck. I'm like, Okay, I like them. 1:57:35.520 --> 1:57:37.920 I like Rachel and John Fuda, but we'll see, you know, 1:57:38.080 --> 1:57:39.600 sophomore slump by next season. 1:57:39.600 --> 1:57:42.680 I'll probably hate them all. 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