1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: on the radio from one until four and after four o'clock. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: If you missed stuff, Johnny Canon demand the podcast. It's 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: all there, same show. 6 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are still collecting calls for the Moistline, 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: which plays join the show tomorrow at three o'clock hours. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: So you can use that app to connect to the 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: Moistline or call the toll free number one eight seven 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: seven Moist eighty six. 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Word came down a couple of hours ago that. 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Because we talked about this a lot yesterday. We even 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: pulled out the tongue bat desk. We knew Gavin Newsom 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: was going to China to talk climate change and to 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: sign moves MoU's memorandums of understanding with some provinces in China, 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: but the announcement came down just a. 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Couple of hours ago. He's going to Israel first tomorrow, Governor. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: He's going to stop in Israel tomorrow before he makes 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: his way to China. 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: After Tim John's in Hong Kong. Then he goes for John. Uh, 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: what is the word? Well? In Israel? The governor will 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: meet with those impacted by the violence. Well, he thinks 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: he's the shadow president now, isn't he. 24 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: He adjusted his planned international trip and will briefly visit 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: with Israel instead of going to China the peacemaker. Do 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: you think he's gonna get the Nathan Yahoo in the 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: biggies to come out like they did for Biden or 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: I think they're busy. 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: I guess everyone's can't Can you imagine you're planning this 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: massive invasion? Like, can you just take a picture with 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: me quick? It's like Gavin Newsom's at the door. What 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I's Gavin Newsom? That's right, who's that schmuck? He's got 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: I got three hundred and fifty thousand troops. I'm about 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: to send it to battle. What do you mean, Gavin 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Newsom wants to say, by h Well, they have to 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: add in the store. He's gonna political. 37 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: California's home to the largest population of Arab Americans and 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: the second largest population of Jews in the United States. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Guess who's in Israel today today? Then of New York, 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: Kathy Hokel. She's meeting with some of the victims. 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: That his acts. This is grand standing. Is people just 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: prancing on the stage. Does she have presidential aspirations too? 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: She wants to look like when you've looked at who as, 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: that's probably the place with the largest population of she 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: was in the When you look at who's who has 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: become president in the last ten years, bar's pretty low, 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: isn't it. I think every governor's probably thinking I could 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: do this. But you're right, he's running a shadow candidates, 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: is he is? Because it's clear Biden is in the 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: final days. 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: I have seen in more than one place, and of 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: course it's places that are generally critical of Biden that 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: when he did a stop of his way back from Israel, 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: I think they were in Germany. He spoke to reporters 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: and several observers said, oh boy, he was mumbling. 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: No, it was bad. I watched it talking in your sleep, Romana. 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: He was literally just in one of the little like 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: hallways on Air Force one talking to a hole like 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: press gaggle, and it was very Is. 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: That the audio we have, Yeah, it's part of it, yes, 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: always part of okay, because the only headline I saw, 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: and I guess it's going to be in this piece 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: of audio. He's a board Air Force one, and reporters 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: are asking him questions. So he begins responding and. 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Well, there's a bit of a strange thing in this response. 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Let's play the cut. 67 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: Well, I can understand why in this circumstance they wouldn't believe. 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: I can't understand that and the pluck I would not notice, 69 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 4: I know, say things like that unless I have faith 70 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: in source and much I've gotten. Lar Defense Department says, 71 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: it's highly unlikely. It was rare. 72 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a different footprint, and it intercept 73 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: you soon anyway. 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: And so that's why if you notice I didn't say 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: it first, I don't think I wanted to make sure 76 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: that I knew and look, and I'm not suggesting that 77 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: her Master deliberately did it either. That's that old thing 78 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 4: got a lot how to shoot straight? Oh, it's not 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: the first time her Mas has wanted something that didn't function. 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: He's talking about the bonding of the hospital. The headline 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: everybody ran with today is Biden advice is a monster 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: shoots straight. Do better. It's a little advice for me. Yeah, 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 1: you're a little sloppy with with the with the aim here, Okay, 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: what's wrong? Yeah, you're killing the wrong people here that's 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be going that that that rocket was for 86 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: israelis what are you doing there shooting the hospital? 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, like I said yesterday, like you have 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: to lean in. He's on his deathbed. Yeah, there is 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: obviously some background noise to deal with, but his voice 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: and love. 91 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: It's weak because he's fading out. It's the it's the 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: final It's the final glide path. Oh but what did 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: you call it? The final glide path? 94 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Is that an expression we mean like you're in your 95 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: final days? Yes, glide path when a plane is about 96 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: to land. Oh okay, the glidepath. 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: I thought it was an aerial reference for before it 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: touches down on the runway. He's about to touch down 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: on the final runway. Well you predicted that back in 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. What he was right? My eyes would not 101 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: I know what I'm looking at. I got no special 102 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: psychic powers. It's look with your eyes clearly. When you're 103 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: seventy eight, when you're running for president, and now you're 104 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: eighty eighty one almost he will be in November that yea, 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: this is going to happen, you know, you in your 106 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: later years, especially if you have conditions you age exponentially 107 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: from when you're to the next It's not like when 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: you go from age fifty one to fifty two. Yeah. No, 109 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: it said eighty to eighty one when especially when you 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: have the problems he has. No, it's it's it's huge. 111 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: But I mean people die all the time. That's a revelation, 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: isn't it. 113 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: But I did read the other day statistically speaking, if 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: you make it to seventy, you're probably going to make 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: it to eighty five. And if you make it to 116 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: eighty five, you're probably going to make it to ninety. 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: But that doesn't hold true for everything. No, it's just 118 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: more likely than not. But yes, right now, I love 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: reading actuarial tables. They're fascinating about deaths. Oh well, just 120 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: the percentage of people. How much time you have you. 121 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Should have gone for an insurance company. They want to 122 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: crunch those numbers insurance companies. I was looking at exactly that. 123 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: Are you trying to figure out? When you got left? 124 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Huh oh? Yeah, I was too much build exit bags, 125 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: peaches coming. It's too much. Somebody saved me. I kept 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: hitting refreshed. Come on, all right, we could spend the 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: rest of the show honestly, with stories about protests and 128 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: wild things that people are saying on college campuses, high schools. 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: We could, and if you want to, we will. I 130 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. 131 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: Well, you and Eric were busy sending out these stories 132 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: today of protests. 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's one around the block from me, Kamala Harris, 134 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's house. That's right, But those are Jews, Jews, 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: eh oh, Eric has given them them that. Well wait 136 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: a minute, it's it's just say you're lying, or it's 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Jews supporting the called progressive Jewish Activists for Palestinian Rights 138 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: is kind of what their descriptor is. 139 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: And all of the Jews I have talked to about 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: these groups of people, Yeah, we don't consider them real Jews. 141 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Oh no, do you think they're Gino's. Do you think 142 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: they're Jews in name only? Yes? Basically, Well rhino I 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: was just trying to play it. It's a little too 144 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: close to something else. 145 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: Oh okay, uh if not, now is one of the 146 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: groups you're you're saying they're not really Jewish, that's one 147 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: of the groups that showed up. 148 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Well, do you think they're impersonators a. 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: Group of American Jews calling for the end of the 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: US support for Israel's apartheid system. 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh so you don't think they're they're they're they're fake actors. 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: They're just not. No, I wouldn't say they're fake act 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: I see, they're just they're not what he believes telling 154 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: the Jewish line. I see, right. 155 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, seven twenty this morning, John, did I wake 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: you up for a few people played up in cars? 157 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't notice, but I didn't go in 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: that direction. Oh okay, but uh, they claim that they're 159 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: not going to be leaving Jesus cease fire. 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: The second gentleman is Jewish. Yes, and I'd just like 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: to say that because it's a great time. Douglas Mhoff Right, Yeah, 162 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: that's the husband's second gentleman. He is the second gentleman. 163 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Should we ever have a female president, the husband would 164 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: be the first gentleman. 165 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: But this is the vice president's so he's the second gentleman. 166 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: He's only second. Have you ever heard anyone called the 167 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: second lady? I just don't remember that. No, let me 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: see how you can do that. Would that be the 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: first lady? Second lady? Right? Yeah, like if you had 170 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: a mistress the president. This is the first lady and 171 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: another lady I like to hang out. What was that 172 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: called her? Was the second lady? Yes, Marilyn Monroe. Mari. 173 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: By the way, these are the same type of people 174 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: that showed up say in Congress. You saw that story, 175 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: they took over, they ran into the capitol and protest. 176 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: I think it is. 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: There's actually two groups I think that have been involved 178 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: in this. I mentioned if Not Now, and I think 179 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: I saw the name of another. Well, yeah, Washington, d C. 180 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: Hundreds of demonstrators organized by if Not Now and another 181 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: progressive group, Jewish Voice for Peace. No good either, Eric, 182 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: No to that one more time. 183 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Sorry. 184 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: Jewish Voice for Peace is the other group that showed 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: up in Washington, d C. Just like if Not Now, 186 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: they said they're Jewish, and they don't like. 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: If they're Jewish, I would tell them go to Gaza, 188 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: tell them you support Hamas, tell them you're a Jew, 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: and see what happens. 190 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a that's an excellent point. It is 191 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: you know what I think about a lot of these 192 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: protesters the same way. It's really cool to be standing 193 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: on the west side of l A in Brentwood and 194 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: protesting and shaking your fist why don't you go face 195 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: what the Israelis faced and that kibbutz right across the border. 196 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: You go, you go, stand there, you go, stand there. 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: When the Hamas guys were piling over and shooting everybody 198 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: on site. 199 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: See what a couple of people said. I'm not sure 200 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: if it was John Fetterman, you know John Fetterman. Yeah, 201 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: Fetterman told off the squat. 202 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 203 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Well with the response generally just shortenness of this. It's ceasefire. 204 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: Well after we get rid of Hamas, we can talk 205 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: about that. 206 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it ceasefire after Hamas kills a thousand people. All right, 207 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: all right, let's stop now, whoa whoa whoa hold on 208 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: who they're worried about. 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: The Palestinians who don't really have a stake in this 210 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: get killed in these bombings, you know what I mean. 211 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: And they're cut off from food and water. And I 212 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: saw a pole. Associated press story from two years ago, 213 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Hamas's support rating fifty three to fourteen in Palestine. Somebody 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: took a pole, Yeah, fifty three to fourteen. It was 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: right after something called up people during the bombing and 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: said it was a scientific pole. There's some organization where 217 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: Hamas was in the house when they called and oh 218 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I love them as see. You know it's funny. But 219 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: even your reaction, a lot of people can't believe that 220 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: the Palestinian people actually support Hamas. No, a lot of 221 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: them do. Well. 222 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the probably right, the violence, You're right, that's why 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: people don't want to believe it. But when you look 224 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: at the pole that was taken in Saudi Arabia and 225 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 2: the support for Ben Laden after what he did a 226 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, So it's through the roof sign of 227 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: the same thing. 228 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't just all about your on our land. Get 229 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: out right. This is Palestine, it's not Israel. Yeah, I mean, 230 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: you know they don't want to get bombed, but their 231 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: feelings for the Jews mimic Hamas is for the most part. 232 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: All right. 233 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: We'll have more when we come back, of course, on 234 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: Israel and Hamas. Your chance for money is still with us. 235 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: The keyword is next. Johnny KENKFI AM six forty Live 236 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: everywhere iHeartRadio app. 237 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 238 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 239 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 2: All right, most polls I have seen polls right do 240 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: so do show that most Americans are supporting Israel in 241 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: the horror that they suffered at the hands of Hamas. 242 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: But clearly, this is America. There are exceptions. We're gonna 243 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: pull out a couple during the show this afternoon. One 244 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: unbelievable one was written up by Ken Curson in the 245 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: California Globe. 246 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: It's about a UC Davis. 247 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Assistant professor who, on October tenth, is days after the 248 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: attack by Hamas, tweeted out the following this is not 249 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: a joke. 250 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: This is what she tweeted. More on that in a moment. 251 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: One group of people we have easy access to in 252 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: the US is all these Zionist journalists who spread propaganda 253 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: and misinformation. They have houses with addresses Comma kids in school. 254 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: They can fear their bosses, but they should fear us more. 255 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: Followed by a cleaver an axe and three large blood drops. 256 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Who yeah. 257 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: The Globe asked the chancellor there if there was any 258 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: effort underway to censor this professor. I wrote to them, 259 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: and I said, I happen to be a Zionist journalist, 260 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: and I have an address in kids in schools. 261 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Sho'ld be afraid. That's a great question, I am. Did 262 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: she get a they? 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, the response was, we reject all forms of violence 264 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: and discrimination as they're antithical to the values of our university. 265 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: We strive to foster a climate of equity and justice 266 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: built on mutual understanding and respect to all members of 267 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: the community. The next word that Ken Curson wrote was barf. 268 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: He says, barf to that that's just the boiler plate 269 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: that they send out whatever somebody complains. Exactly, will you 270 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: have somebody dangerous on your staff who's sending out terroristic threats, 271 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: death threats that he's called to violence they sent somebody's religion. 272 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: Yes, and and really centering around the journalists, right, Yes, 273 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: let's get the Jewish journalists. Her name is Jemma de Cristo, 274 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: assistant professor of American Studies, who apparently is transgender because 275 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: Ken Christon said she get involved. Remember the transgender black 276 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: man who was shot by security guards in San Francisco 277 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: at the Walgreens. 278 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I think we did that story. Benko Brown is his name. 279 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: She got heavily involved in the criticizing him, so that 280 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: all this stuff about the police, and that gives her the. 281 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Right to call for Jewish journalists to be killed. But 282 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: being a transgender is now a shield, and now you 283 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: can get away with terroristic death threats. Fascinating how they think. 284 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: And we're paying for her. This is taxpayer paid professor, right, 285 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's grice glad I'm working. Is it a 286 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: great world working so that she can take our money 287 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: and issue terroristic threats to Jewish journalists and and and 288 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: the response from the university is I'm led, Blad, bad 289 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: bad bad bad bad bad bad bad blad. We hauled 290 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: our We hold freedom of speech in the highest priority 291 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: safety of our students. God, I mean, they're just you 292 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: know what smoked them out, though it smoked him out. 293 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: This is why you don't put up with all their 294 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: all their cancel culture, all their bs, all their protests, 295 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: all their shaming tactics. It's all one sided. Now. 296 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: I got to read this paragraph by Ken Curson because 297 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: I think he really hit it precisely. He calls this 298 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: the sickness of intersectionality. The entire moral compass is based 299 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: not on any recognizable calculus of appropriate behavior. Whoever is 300 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: perceived as poor and powerless, as automatically virtuous, whoever is 301 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: received as rich and powerful as a cabinet for butchering. 302 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: I think you said it well there, because that's the 303 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: heart of this. These progressive activist types think that israel 304 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: Is they're colonists, they've taken over, they're they're imperialists there, 305 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: and they've instituted apartheid and so this is their take, 306 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: So therefore they are the enemy. 307 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: They make all that up. They've invented all those concepts, 308 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: declared it fact, and it justifies all their horrific behavior. 309 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Nice game to play. Huh Hey, I've declared them colonists, 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: I've declared them oppressive. What the hell are you? 311 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: He also writes in Jemma de Cristo formerly known as 312 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Jeremi de Cristo, We've got a trans woman who would 313 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: surely face torture or death in Gaza, citing with those 314 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: who attack that the Israeli army or even at civilian infrastructure. 315 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: But children and grandmothers and concert goers go to the 316 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: hamas leaders and try to sell your lifestyle to them. 317 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna do. 318 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: That? 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Does the must have a lot of trans No soldiers, 320 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: don't think they the whole Middle East there is not 321 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: a warm and friendly environment. Yeah, all right, we got 322 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: more coming up. 323 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: Johnny ken kfi Am six forty were live everywhere the 324 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 325 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 326 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: AM sixty. 327 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: City Bank fired one of their online terrorists. Oh no, no, 328 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Zema Hussein Nova. She posted online on Instagram. No wonder 329 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Hitler wanted rid of them. Oh I did see that headline? Yeah, 330 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: complete complete with a smiley face emoji. Yeah, she was 331 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: bringing Hitler into this. Boy, she was a personal banker 332 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: and now she's unemployed. That sounds like it was a 333 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: decent job. 334 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: What's wrong with people you thought would only be seen 335 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: by a few close friends and would go yeah, thumbs up. 336 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: What is wrong with people tweeting all this online? 337 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: No? 338 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: The x right TWI? I don't know did they changed 339 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: into xing? Is everybody a mental patient? You're a banker? 340 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: Make a loan? 341 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: We said this many times that social media is allowing 342 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: everybody to think that they're hosting their own show and 343 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: they have a huge platform and they can spew all 344 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: their nonsense and everyone's going to applaud. 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: No. Oh, First of all, most people don't see. Because 346 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: we've also talked about how some of the crazy mass 347 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: shooters have been posting things that apparently nobody saw before 348 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: they did the shootings. But it is it is malignant narcissism. 349 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: You're coming up with these terms today. It is a 350 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: mental disease, malignant malignant narcissicism. Yeah, you think you could 351 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: post something cheering on Hitler with a smiley face and 352 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: nobody's going to notice. That's not a good idea. Uh. 353 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: From the news of the obvious desk or the shorter version, 354 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: the Duh Desk, the State Department says not a good 355 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: time for US travelers to go to Israel in the 356 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: West Bank. Reconsidered travel and do not travel advisory and 357 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: a severe warning if you think you're going to. 358 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: The Gaza strip. Thanks. 359 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Well, they just wanted to put it out officially, the 360 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: State Department. They'll tell you US travelers. They're also telling. 361 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: People to show worldwide caution and apparently that's rarely used 362 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: by the State Department. Worldwide caution to. 363 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: All Americans overseas, exercise increase caution due to the potential 364 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: for violence and increase tensions globally. 365 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Just stay home. In other words, you might want to 366 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: stay home until we see where this turns next. I 367 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: got Kamala Harris down the road and she's attracting way 368 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: too much attention. Now, yeah, I mean that's I can't 369 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: even I can't even go take a walk, I do. 370 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: There is a potential for terrorist attacks, demonstrations, violent actions 371 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: against US citizens and interests. Stay alert in locations frequented 372 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: by tourists. And they're also advising you. Maybe another place 373 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: not to go to is Lebanon. 374 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do not travel because of rocket missing artillery 375 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: exchanges between Israel and his Bola. 376 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: This was okay, thank you State Department. You were right 377 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: on top of this. This was Deb's entire trip. I 378 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: still can't believe that. 379 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: It's an amazing all the trips she planned to Jordan, Israel. 380 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Egypt, yeah, yeah, she would have, you said. 381 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: It's a good thing she wasn't already there one week later. 382 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: She would have been on her way, right. 383 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: They would have taken her hostage by now, although good 384 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: chance they would have given her back right away. 385 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, not here to defend herself. Nice, Yeah, who's 386 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: this chatty little thing? 387 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: Throw her out? Vegan too, have some goat? No? All right, 388 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: I uh all right. First I want to. 389 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: Read you this. This comes from the El Segundo Times 390 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: today because I it says in capital letters out now 391 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: a gripping new hospital investigation. I smell a plot here 392 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: coming from the El Segundo Times. This email is from 393 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Kevin Marita, their executive editor, and he wants you to 394 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: know that their latest investigative journalist piece is about the 395 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: extremely high use of restraints at psych hospitals, in particular 396 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: the LA General Medical Center. Why do I smell something 397 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: going on? Well, what's been the big thing the last 398 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: few weeks. Gavin Newsom signed a new piece of legislation 399 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: right care Court and conservatorship. I think they're trying to 400 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: get an early jump on making these hospitals look no 401 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: go for homeless people who have psych problems. They're evil, 402 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: They're restraining people and they shouldn't be doing that. Because 403 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: this piece must have been in the works for weeks weeks, 404 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: and I have two reporters who did the story. And the 405 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: first paragraph is hospitals are forbidden under federal law from 406 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: restraining psychiatric patients except to prevent them from harming themselves 407 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: or other and then it goes on to explain restraints 408 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: can be used only when other steps failed. So what 409 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: I think is going on here, Yeah, they want to 410 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: get a jump on this idea that we're going to 411 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: start sending some of the homeless mental patients their psych hospitals. 412 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: They want to get out in front and say, oh no, no, 413 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: you're not going to do that. It's not good in there. 414 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: It's like it was in the sixties and seventies and 415 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: fifties or whatever they dance thing, they'll be lobotomies. Yeah, 416 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Man. Would I bring lobotomies back 417 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: if I were governor? Yeah, it would have been an 418 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: interesting time. If you were a governor and you were 419 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: urged to run a couple of years ago, I would 420 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: have run on the lobotomy platform before the lobotomy panel, 421 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: who decides whether or not you get that's right. So 422 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: they really went after this. 423 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: Los Angeles General Medical Center, a public hospital fully known 424 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: as La County USC Medical Center, serving some of the 425 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 2: poorest and most vulnerable people in the nation's largest county. 426 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: It is so cliched, isn't it. 427 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: The inpatient psych unit has restrained patients at a higher 428 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: rate than any other California. Now I'm not saying that 429 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: isn't true, but I think they picked this story to do, 430 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: especially investigative stuff Oh my god. They already have three 431 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: stories out on this. Well, why rates of restraint in 432 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: LA General haven't raised alarms? He was strapped down for 433 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: hours at this LA hospital and interviewed one guy and 434 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything about this is fake. Oh in 435 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 2: another one, how often are psych patients restrained at your 436 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: local hospital? And then finally, how we investigate the use 437 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: of restraints on psychiatric patients. So I think they're trying 438 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: to pave the way here for saying that this is 439 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: not a solution to take people off the streets and 440 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 2: put them in psych hospitals because they won't. 441 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: Be treated well there. They're going to have the proof. 442 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: Look at our investigative series. They're giving talking points to 443 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: all the whiny civil rights groups, oh the homeless as bitch, 444 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: and complain that all the mental patients in the streets 445 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: and drug addicts are being treated inhumanely and we have 446 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: to end this practice. We have to get rid of 447 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: the care court, stop admitting them into psych hospital, stop 448 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: issuing restraint binders. They went back in time. They did 449 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: the one flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. One of the 450 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: reasons that we ended up with some of the problems 451 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: we have is because yes, a lot of the psychiatric 452 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: hospitals were pretty poor in the United States back in 453 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: the day. Do you know what you have to do 454 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: to actually end up restrain in a psychiatric hospital. It's 455 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: almost impossible to explain how dangerous and insane you have 456 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: to be, because they don't take you in unless you're 457 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: an imminent threat to yourself or someone else, which means 458 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: you have to have the knife poised in the air. 459 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: About the way the laws are written now, it's pretty hard. Yeah, 460 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: unless you self commit. And so Newsom's Care Court is 461 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: going to change the definition. So if you clearly can't 462 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: care for yourself and get yourself proper. 463 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: And isn't that like ninety percent of the vagrants we 464 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: see on the streets right now, why don't you look 465 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: at them and say they need conservatorship, they're not caring 466 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: for themselves. 467 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the only way. We've talked about this 468 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: for years. Years. We were always right, it's never going 469 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: to change. You know, most of the people you see 470 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: on the streets have to be forcibly put into a 471 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: mental health care or drug rehab center against their will, 472 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: and if they act up, yeah, put them in restraints, 473 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: shoot them up with a horse tranquilizer, whatever it takes, 474 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: you get them off the streets so we can go 475 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: back to normal life like we had it all our lives. 476 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: And then I'll come in and decide if they get 477 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: all about me rich right, that'll be my job. I'll 478 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: bring them I'll be the cleanup guy, right. 479 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: But really, I just want to warn the listers that 480 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: I think that's really was the purpose of this investigative 481 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: series they're doing. 482 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: It's not a newspaper. It's an advocacy journal. That's what 483 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: it is. They advocate policies that they approve of. 484 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: They probably sat around at the table one day and said, 485 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: how can we head off this care court thing and 486 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: conservatorship and putting people. 487 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Into as we used to call them mental institutions. I 488 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: don't even know what to call them now, it's a 489 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: psychiatric facilities. But what can we do? Oh yeah, let's 490 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: try to find some apeut. Let's bring back of a 491 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: bunch of stories in a you're like mental. I want 492 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: to bring back all the old phrases that described accurately 493 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: what what these locations were. All right, they were mentally unkind, 494 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: they're shaming. I'm not for accuracy. They were marginalizing people. 495 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: You're not for accuracy. No, it's a psychiatric center. I 496 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: don't know why psychiatric center is less. Uh. Center doesn't 497 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: sound too bad. No, I don't think it is. Just 498 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: just lock them up. You know, you can call them 499 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: whatever we want to call them a banana, whatever you 500 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: want to call it. But you have to lock them 501 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: up and put them away, and and and accept the 502 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: fact that a lot of these people you're never going 503 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: to fix. It's impossible. They have the organic brain damage, 504 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: permanent brain damage. 505 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 2: Then they see then the Times that's going to do 506 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: the story about over medicating. 507 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: Right, that's the other thing. Well, you know, you know, 508 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: if I had one hundred billion dollars, I would I 509 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: would start up the Anti Times and publish all the truth. 510 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: I'd stop worrying about what those little twenty five year 511 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: old delicate flowers who've been brainwashed from the Ivy League schools. Right, 512 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: here's what they write the La Times. That's just a 513 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: nameplate what they are, or all these whiny college kids 514 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: with their weirdo views that they got from school, and 515 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: you read their crap like, oh, the La Times says 516 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: it's like this' stop it. If you had these people over, 517 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: they would be the most annoying guests you'd ever talk 518 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: with in your life, Like like maybe your your son 519 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: or daughter's annoying college friends. You think they know everything 520 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: about the world right, rail, left wing, we'll progressive, rail woke, 521 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: and you know you wouldn't even get to dessert with them. 522 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: You'd be kicking them out. You've being it's the l Yeah, 523 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: that's right, you'd be a little botomizing. It's like, oh, 524 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: it's the La Times, Like, stop that. That's just a 525 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: name plate. That's just a coat of arms. 526 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: All right, We'll be back down and Ken KFI AM 527 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: six forty live everywhere iheartradiotting. 528 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 5: To John and Ken on demand from KFI AM six forty. 529 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: We're on the air from one until four and then 530 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: after four o'clock John and can on demand and that's 531 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: the podcast version of the show. Same program. Listen to 532 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: what you missed. Yeah, and we got a lot to come. 533 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: Next hour, we'll play for you a story that comes 534 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: under the category of uh huh, told you so? Zero 535 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: bailed in La County. I just arrested a woman for 536 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: setting fires in Triman Oaks. Turns out she had been 537 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: subject to arrest not long before that for vandalism. Thanks 538 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: to zero bail, she was out there to start burning things. 539 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: We'll explain all this coming up in the two o'clock 540 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: hour with the report from Fox eleven. We've been talking 541 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: a lot about this hour, of course, about Israel and Amas. 542 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if Johnathan got a chance to read 543 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: this Stanford professor about free will. 544 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I did. 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: This is fascinating and clearly you could really go down 546 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: a rabbit hole if you wanted to spend an hour 547 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: or two talking about what this is about. Although I 548 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: like this, an objector and basically what this professor's concluded 549 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: that there is no such thing as free will, and 550 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: as an objector puts in the story, So we're deterministic 551 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: biochemical puppets, that's what we are. This guy with the 552 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: hair that looks like a judge in a court in Britain, You. 553 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: Know what, it would help if he didn't look like 554 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: Robert Sepoulski. He looks like a drug addicted vagrant. Okay, 555 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: he's got a long beard. 556 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: He's got the long kind of wavy hair like a 557 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: wig on his head. Yeah, that goes all the way 558 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: down to his shoulders, but it's kind of curly like 559 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: the courtroom judges of the Earth and his and his 560 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: beard is a different color from his hair. 561 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: It's just exactly. I don't know what's going on there anyway. 562 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: He's a neurobiologist by the name of Robert Sepulski. After 563 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: more than forty years studying humans and other primates, forty years, 564 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 2: he's reached the inclusion that virtually all human behavior is 565 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 2: as far beyond our conscious control as the convulsions of 566 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: a seizure, or the division of cells, or the beating 567 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: of our hearts. And then the next paragraph will get 568 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: you because this got me. This means accepting that a 569 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: man who shoots into a crowd has no more control 570 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: over his fate than the victims who happened to be 571 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: in the wrong place at the wrong time. It means 572 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: treating drunk drivers who barrel into pedestrians just like drivers 573 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: who suffer a sudden heart attack and veer out of 574 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: their lane. 575 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: This is George Gascone's wet dream. That's what I thought 576 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: of too. 577 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: Oh, the criminal justice system reformers will love this. 578 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: This isn't an accident. This is what they've been incrementally 579 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: preparing us for and heading towards all along the idea 580 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: that there is no such thing as crime. Therefore there 581 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: are no jail sentences, there's no prison, there's no need 582 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: for police, because no one should be arrested. Nobody should 583 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: ever be blamed or held responsible for whatever they do 584 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: because they couldn't help it preprogrammed into them. This is 585 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: the mountaintop here, this is nirvana. I'm just surprised that 586 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: they're going there so quickly, but they've made so much progress. 587 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: At least this guy, Seppolsky, said, Ah, I'm gonna go 588 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: for it. Yeah. 589 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: The book breaks down the neurochemical influences that contribute to 590 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: human behaviors. 591 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: And though you're a big believer in the chemicals in 592 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: the brain, you are right, you do believe. Yes, that's 593 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: why people don't change. You get hardwired from your childhood, 594 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: based partly on your genetics that you inherit, and partly 595 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: on the kind of environment you grow up in. But 596 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: the chemicals affect your moods, which is why when people 597 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: get depressed, they have a chemical imbalance in the brain, 598 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: and so if you give them medications, it completely changes 599 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: their their their personality in terms of having energy and 600 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: being engaged in the world. 601 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: Well, the way the Times writer put it here, this 602 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: gets to the heart of it. We know we make 603 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 2: decisions when we're hungry, stressed, or scared. We know are 604 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: physical makeup is influenced by the genes inherited from different 605 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: ancestors and by a mother's help during our pregnuring her pregnancy. 606 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Abundant evident evidence indicates that people who grew up in 607 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: homes marked by chaos and deprivation will perceive the world 608 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: differently and make different choices than people raised in safe, stable, 609 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: resource rich and varsity. So this means you can't punish 610 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: him because there's no free will. They were just driven 611 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: this way by a circumstances. 612 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: Right, because you and I grew up in relatively stable 613 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: home environments. That's an unearned per privilege that we have, 614 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 1: So we don't deserve to have our freedom if it 615 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: means people he didn't go up grow up with that privilege, 616 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: end up being jailed because they couldn't help it. Right, 617 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: And that's why I've always looked at jail or prison 618 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: as a way to keep innocent people from getting hurt. 619 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: We can fight all day about why people are bad, 620 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you know? Are they born that way? Is it evil? 621 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: Like something? Almost? So this is what makes the case 622 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: for locking people up permanently too, right, Yes, because yeah, 623 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: because they're ill, they're gonna do it again and they 624 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: can't help it. That's who they are. Maybe they were 625 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: abused so badly as a kid that they had this 626 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: permanent anger. They ended up with like a certain kind 627 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: of brain damage from all the stress and abuse that 628 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: they suffered. I can accept that, But you still lock 629 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: them up because they're danger See doesn't It doesn't change 630 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: the destination. The destination should still be prison. But they're 631 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna use his arguments to say that, Well, you have 632 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: no more right to do that. Yeah, you wonder how 633 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: long before this the professor's book is picked up by 634 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: five minutes, this crowd of Gascon's right. This is another 635 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: version what Gascone has been saying. All right, we got 636 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: more coming up. 637 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: Johnny Kak KFI AM six forty We're live everywhere the 638 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app and. 639 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: Sandy Wells is live in the twenty four hour Cafe Newsroom. 640 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 641 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 642 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 643 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.