Speaker 1: Come home, Come Home, Come Home.
Speaker 2: On this episode of the Heat Check, the first round
Speaker 2: of the NBA Playoffs have.
Speaker 3: Surprised this taking a quite a bit of a turn.
Speaker 2: Sons and the Grizzlies might just find themselves in a
Speaker 2: dogfight here, folks. A seven game series, I would say
Speaker 2: for those top two seeds was not what they envisioned
Speaker 2: By winning fifty plus games. Sixers now have to deal
Speaker 2: with a major injury, and the nets are on the
Speaker 2: verge of a broomstick, just like everyone predicted. We love
Speaker 2: the playoffs, so brock. We also have to do the
Speaker 2: little winning time. By the way, we have our winning
Speaker 2: time recap, So do me a favorite rock and dropped out, motherfucking.
Speaker 4: I'm perfect, righty.
Speaker 3: I record Thursdays.
Speaker 2: I record Friday's episode on Thursday, which means all of
Speaker 2: the games that happen Thursday night I have not seen yet.
Speaker 2: So there has been some games that have gone down
Speaker 2: since our last episode. We've got Thursday night, Friday night,
Speaker 2: Saturday night set four nights of games, so we've got
Speaker 2: a lot to kind of recap things that are in flux.
Speaker 2: Two of the big favorites, the Sons and the Grizzlies,
Speaker 2: are now fighting a badger in a box. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I've ever told that term to you, Brock,
Speaker 2: but I love it. Like it's just when a badger
Speaker 2: gets inside of a box and you try to attack.
Speaker 2: It is just my mom used to call me when
Speaker 2: I woke up as a little kid, a badger in
Speaker 2: a box, like just full of PiZZ and vinegar and fenom,
Speaker 2: and like if you try to come after that thing,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get fucked up. So that's what the Suns
Speaker 2: are and the Grizzlies are in right now. They are
Speaker 2: fighting badgers and boxes. Nets are on life support. And
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons just decided after promising us, promising he was
Speaker 2: ready to go, and he was. He was ready to go.
Speaker 2: He was healthy, he was excited. His outfit game is
Speaker 2: definitely on point, and he's not ready to give those
Speaker 2: outfits up because Sunday he woke up with some back soreness.
Speaker 3: So he's going to be out for Game four.
Speaker 2: But the biggest news of all, Joe el Embiid's thumb
Speaker 2: is actually really fucked up, like it's bad, as we
Speaker 2: would say in Scooby Land, rout row rut row embid
Speaker 2: rot row Let's start out East Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3: He's done.
Speaker 2: Everything, pretty much, something that no one has ever done before.
Speaker 2: They have shut down the most potent scorer of our generation,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. He's not even shooting. He's telling us he's
Speaker 2: thinking too much. He's trying to be perfect. He doesn't
Speaker 2: know whether he should force it or whether he should
Speaker 2: give the ball up. He's like, literally every time, every
Speaker 2: time I do anything else, I lose. Like I tried
Speaker 2: to play within the game and let the ball come
Speaker 2: to me, and somehow I'm only taking eleven shots a
Speaker 2: game now, Like I tried to force it and I'm
Speaker 2: like four for fifteen. Let's look at a stat line
Speaker 2: really fast, so I don't just make up his stats.
Speaker 3: But it's not good. Kevin Durant stats all right.
Speaker 2: Game game one when he forced it nine for twenty four,
Speaker 2: one for five, Game two, when he forced it four
Speaker 2: for seventeen, one for two from three, Game three, when
Speaker 2: he said he was letting the game come to him
Speaker 2: six for eleven, two for three, eight rebounds eight a
Speaker 2: SIS great stat line, not Kevin Durant's stat line.
Speaker 3: NNL.
Speaker 2: Most importantly, three l's in a row. Kyrie Irving Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 2: Let's look at his stats. After that incredible performance where
Speaker 2: he was twelve for fifteen in the play in game,
Speaker 2: he went twelve for twenty in game one with thirty
Speaker 2: nine points epic six for ten from three, and then
Speaker 2: he has fallen off cliff ten points in game two,
Speaker 2: four for thirteen, oh for one from three.
Speaker 3: WHOA, I didn't even know this.
Speaker 2: In game three, game sixteen points, six for seventeen, oh
Speaker 2: for seven.
Speaker 3: You're talking about a man.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving went oh for eight from three in two games.
Speaker 2: So back to Kevin Durant. He's in a tailspin right now.
Speaker 2: He's what we call in the barrel of the wave,
Speaker 2: your surfing, and you're doing your kid cutty thing and
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm riding the wave, can't find the way,
Speaker 2: and then you crash and he's looking up, he's looking down.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know which side is deeper into the ocean
Speaker 2: and which side is the sky.
Speaker 3: That's where we're at right now.
Speaker 2: In the first three games of this soon to be overseason,
Speaker 2: when Tatum has guarded Kevin Durant, he's held them to
Speaker 2: just ten points and made him commit ten turnovers. KD
Speaker 2: has made exactly two baskets in three games against Tatum.
Speaker 3: KD has been locked up. They won't let me out.
Speaker 2: No, no, and it's not gonna change. Everybody keeps telling me, Trista,
Speaker 2: don't take the under on Kevin Durant's points, don't take
Speaker 2: the under on his pra The man is the best
Speaker 2: scorer of our generator. Yes, that's why I'll continue to
Speaker 2: take the under, folks, because nothing's changing. Nobody's coming to
Speaker 2: save you, Kevin. And like I said in the beginning
Speaker 2: of the series, and I'm gonna continue to say it
Speaker 2: because it was so spot on. As the series gets
Speaker 2: further and further along, they'll both Kevin and Kyrie will
Speaker 2: become less and less effective. We've got and even Steve
Speaker 2: Nash is talking about it. I'm sure this is what
Speaker 2: he said. I'm sure they're tired Kyrie fasting through Ramadan.
Speaker 2: Kevin's basically been playing forty minutes from the like forty
Speaker 2: minutes a game in the last twenty games.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like I this is Steve Nash's direct quote too.
Speaker 2: When I'm fast, When I'm fasting and I haven't eaten
Speaker 2: and I played tennis, I feel like I'm gonna collapse.
Speaker 2: Can't believe Kyrie's even doing it.
Speaker 3: Excuse me. It behooves you to have a solution to
Speaker 3: these problems.
Speaker 2: And Blake Griffin hasn't played in a month and you
Speaker 2: put him in. I don't even know why he decided
Speaker 2: to do it, but thank god because Blake Griffin gave
Speaker 2: him a spark.
Speaker 3: He was locking up Tatum. This man is, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry to say it, unqualified for this job. Unqualified. Here's
Speaker 2: more of the problems they have, I might repeat myself.
Speaker 2: They have zero depth, they don't play defense well. They
Speaker 2: have two superstars who cannot care the team when they're
Speaker 2: consistently double teamed. They can't just yohannice themselves into it.
Speaker 2: They can't just yoki themselves into it. They have a
Speaker 2: coach with exactly zero answers about how to fix these
Speaker 2: things other than.
Speaker 3: The switch to his own defense.
Speaker 2: Literally, he's trying to box some ones he doesn't He's
Speaker 2: not running place to get Kevin Durant open. Think about
Speaker 2: that Kevin Durant, who can shoot over anyone. It's like,
Speaker 2: just go out there and go iso like it's an
Speaker 2: AAU scrimmage.
Speaker 3: No, They're Celtics are operating like it's a war.
Speaker 2: They've got onward Christian souls just.
Speaker 3: Left, right, left, right, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3: they are in lockstep right now, and Kevin Durant is
Speaker 3: locked up right now.
Speaker 2: And then you're like, okay, well, maybe Ben Simmons will
Speaker 2: come and he'll be able to lock up Tatum or
Speaker 2: Brown or some variation of bulk because Jason Tatum does
Speaker 2: nothing against Ben Simmons. And you're like, like I said,
Speaker 2: I'll believe it when when I see it. I fucking
Speaker 2: told you I know Ben Simmons like I know my
Speaker 2: own self. I know him better than maybe he knows himself.
Speaker 2: How long has the promise of Ben Simmons in clutch
Speaker 2: situations been hanging over the heads of us AS fans
Speaker 2: and of course NETS fans as well. After being told
Speaker 2: Ben was a Gopher Game four, he woke up and
Speaker 2: just like, ah.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think I tweaked it.
Speaker 2: I think I'm And now he's having meetings with the
Speaker 2: NETS organization, him Rich Paul and him being like, we're
Speaker 2: gonna discuss a further plan on how we can return
Speaker 2: to the court mentally and physically, considering all the hurdles
Speaker 2: that Ben has to go through.
Speaker 3: I thought he was ready. Why is there a new
Speaker 3: meeting taking place? He was ready? Why are there new
Speaker 3: mental hurdles?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 3: I said it on Twitter?
Speaker 2: I said I cannot wait for Ben Simmons to return
Speaker 2: back into the Nets. Lineup on an elimination game like
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons highest pressure. I'm sure that's got to contribute
Speaker 2: to it. They're not up three to one, they're not
Speaker 2: up three to zero. And he comes out like just
Speaker 2: front running. They need you, Ben, we need you shoot
Speaker 2: the ball. Ben shoot No.
Speaker 3: Steven A, I had this to say, he is all
Speaker 3: of us. Let's go to that clip.
Speaker 6: Jalen is different than me. I feel bad for anybody
Speaker 6: who was his teammate. He quit on LSU, he quit
Speaker 6: on the Philadelphia seventy six ers, and now he ain't
Speaker 6: showing up for the Brooklyn Nets. We can point to
Speaker 6: all the excuses, all the rationale behind it that we
Speaker 6: want to. I do recall, despite him not playing, he
Speaker 6: still filed the grievous to collect twenty million dollars that
Speaker 6: he has not earned.
Speaker 3: This is one of the most.
Speaker 6: Pathetic situations that I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: He ain't going to war.
Speaker 6: He ain't going in the octagond, He's not going in
Speaker 6: a boxing ring. It's pulling teeth to get this man
Speaker 6: to play basketball. It's pathetic, it's sad, and it at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, when the NBA gets in
Speaker 6: the collective boggaining table and they go after the players
Speaker 6: in terms of a pay for play stipulation in the
Speaker 6: collective boggaining agreement, it's going to be called the Ben
Speaker 6: Simmons rule.
Speaker 2: Sesh, I'm telling you everyone is coming for Ben's head.
Speaker 2: Even my man, Reggie Miller's coming after him.
Speaker 3: This is what he had to say.
Speaker 2: Come on, man out for Game four when it was
Speaker 2: rumored you were going to make your debut. This dude
Speaker 2: has zero competitive fire. As a small chance as the
Speaker 2: Nets have to come back in this series, you still
Speaker 2: have Katie and Kyrie. All you need is to win
Speaker 2: one game and take it for their hashtag.
Speaker 3: Man up, sir.
Speaker 2: Sir, couldn't say it better than my I couldn't say
Speaker 2: it any better myself.
Speaker 3: The Nets are a train wreck. They are.
Speaker 2: They have now constructed two of the three worst super
Speaker 2: teams we've ever seen, the one with Paul Pierce and them,
Speaker 2: and then and then who else?
Speaker 3: Was on that squad.
Speaker 2: It was KG was on that Derawn Williams was up
Speaker 2: on that squad. Joe Johnson, Yes, KG, drawn Williams, Joe Johnson,
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce. Now it's KD, Kyrie Harden, KD Kyrie Simmons.
Speaker 2: No dogs, there's no dogs on that squad. Got a DM.
Speaker 2: They tweeted, They tweeted at me and they were like,
Speaker 2: I think these are the three wor super teams of
Speaker 2: our generation.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I agree.
Speaker 2: So now that they will get swept or maybe Scott
Speaker 2: Foster will luck them into getting sent their ass home
Speaker 2: from Boston, which would be even better I think for
Speaker 2: Boston fans, better for the narrative, better for Kyrie versus.
Speaker 2: I mean, just imagine him losing in Boston. Those fans
Speaker 2: just tremendous. Then there's gonna be a ton of que
Speaker 2: Who's to blame? Is it Kyrie yes? Is it Hardened Yes?
Speaker 2: Is it Nash?
Speaker 3: Yes? Does Nash come back?
Speaker 2: Hopefully not? The latest news is that they do not
Speaker 2: expect Steve Nash to be fired. Here's why that's not
Speaker 2: shocking to me, although firing him is a thousand percent
Speaker 2: the right move, Like if you put emy Udoka as
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Nets and Steve Nash as
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Celtics, same teams, same construction.
Speaker 2: I believe Celtics are up, or I believe Nets are
Speaker 2: up three to zero on the Celtics. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: You're talking about Steve Nash from the beginning.
Speaker 3: No e May.
Speaker 2: Ever, a parallel universe where Eme never instills dog into
Speaker 2: the Celtics team. They're a badly constructed roster. They've got
Speaker 2: Tatum doing iso ball, Jalen Brown never passing to a soul,
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart chucking fifteen three's a game, Robert Williams trying
Speaker 2: to do something to help out in the paint, Peyton
Speaker 2: Pritchard coming in, Aaron Eieman.
Speaker 3: This team would be gargar e May coming in.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a new term, garguard. It's from my youth.
Speaker 2: Nets would be.
Speaker 3: A well oiled symphony.
Speaker 2: That's how bad Steve Nash is. He has no clue
Speaker 2: how to handle things. He had Mike D'Antoni last year,
Speaker 2: Mike D'Antoni said, thank you, sir, goodbye. I'm out read
Speaker 2: it about which you will. But Sean Marks and Steve
Speaker 2: Nash were homies. Steve Nash and Sean Marks, the GM
Speaker 2: of the Nets, were teammates in Phoenix the years where
Speaker 2: Steve Nash was at his.
Speaker 3: Pinnacle two time MVP.
Speaker 2: You don't ever forget that as a teammate, Like you
Speaker 2: look at Steve as the player and you're like oh,
Speaker 2: and then you're like, oh, yeah, brilliant basketball mind. He
Speaker 2: must come in and deal with these superstars. He spent
Speaker 2: like twenty five minutes with Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: was in Golden State, and apparently they jeled, they had
Speaker 2: a coffee. He called him Yoda and like Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: signed off on it. Then of course Kyrie said, well,
Speaker 2: we don't really have a coach, So, I mean it
Speaker 2: was destined to fail from the beginning. But if Sean
Speaker 2: Marks isn't fired, then Steve Nash isn't fired, and less
Speaker 2: and less, here's where it gets tricky. Nepotism falls when
Speaker 2: the guillotine falls. So if it's Josi saying Steve, it's
Speaker 2: either Steve, Sean or you. Sean will go back to
Speaker 2: backstabbing ways because this is what the executives do, and
Speaker 2: Steve will Steve and the Nets will will mutually part ways.
Speaker 2: It'll be an amicable mutually parting of ways. This is
Speaker 2: now year three of the KD Kyrie experiment. Kyrie in
Speaker 2: those three years has played forty six percent of all
Speaker 2: NETS games.
Speaker 3: Let me just repeat that again.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving has played less than fifty percent of games
Speaker 2: as a Net.
Speaker 3: Let me expand on this.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving hasn't played in his eleven years a full
Speaker 2: eighty two game season. Ever, he's played ninety percent four
Speaker 2: out of his eleven years. The other seven years he's
Speaker 2: missed significant time. He's been finessing us for a long
Speaker 2: ass time. This is not going to go down any
Speaker 2: differently in the future. So the question is is Kyrie
Speaker 2: going to get a MAX extension or nah?
Speaker 3: Do you trust him on a long term deal? Is
Speaker 3: this a long term commitment? Heell no?
Speaker 2: Will they do a one and one, a one year
Speaker 2: deal with a one year team option and then they
Speaker 2: do the whole like it's the reverse of the Lebron
Speaker 2: James situation. It's like, we'll see how it goes with you.
Speaker 2: If they don't extend them, who else will? Will they
Speaker 2: do a sign and trade? I can't imagine Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: is gonna sign off on Kyrie not being there if
Speaker 2: they do trade Kyrie, does Kevin care? If Kevin cares,
Speaker 2: does Kevin ask for trade as well? The Domino's they
Speaker 2: just continue to just that. These are the things that
Speaker 2: keep me up at night. These are the iterations of
Speaker 2: the possibilities that make me smile. Sometimes my dog wakes
Speaker 2: up at night and it's like it was just me
Speaker 2: laughing to myself in my bed thinking about all the
Speaker 2: situations of disaster and peril that could befall this league.
Speaker 3: How do you fix this roster? Another question?
Speaker 2: Huge gaps all over the place, almost no depth. They
Speaker 2: are over the luxury tax? Are ready?
Speaker 3: Does this sort of Lakers esque with better players? When
Speaker 3: you have multiple guys on max deals?
Speaker 2: And let's speaking of dysfunction, like this is the same
Speaker 2: team that was mad that DeAndre Jordan wasn't starting.
Speaker 3: DeAndre Jordan got waived, Like DeAndre Jordan is washed.
Speaker 2: Like the nepotism within the Nets organization, in the team
Speaker 2: environment is fucking crazy too. It's bonkers. Will we see
Speaker 2: another question? Will we see Ben Simmons to start next year?
Speaker 3: Will he be healthy? Is he going to get another
Speaker 3: back surgery is he's still not mentally ready to compete.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a wild offseason though in Brooklyn, and
Speaker 2: they are for sure going home.
Speaker 3: I mean so much.
Speaker 6: Tell me explosive.
Speaker 2: Another place is getting a little explosive. Another place there's
Speaker 2: got a team with a lot to lose.
Speaker 3: It's not the Nets. Joel Embiid now needs surgery on
Speaker 3: a thumb. A little update. He has tornal ligament in
Speaker 3: his thumb. He has said publicly.
Speaker 2: It makes it very difficult for him to catch the
Speaker 2: ball is rebounding, receiving passes makes him very makes it
Speaker 2: very difficult for him to pass the ball. Scoring is okay,
Speaker 2: it's like not as much of a the deal, but
Speaker 2: like the whole passing thing, assists and rebounds like very
Speaker 2: key pieces of Joel Embid's game, very difficult.
Speaker 3: His stat line gross, We'll get to that.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem Toronto and furthermore, Miami, who will be
Speaker 2: their next opponent if they win.
Speaker 3: Very aggressive defenses like you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about teams that will rip at the ball like
Speaker 2: that is possibly additional damage that will need to be
Speaker 2: surgically repaired and impede his progress and his effectiveness throughout
Speaker 2: the series. Right, it's gonna make it difficult, let alone,
Speaker 2: like he's gonna be pressed by Scottie Barnes, He's gonna
Speaker 2: be pressed by Pascal Siakam. And then in the next series,
Speaker 2: when they make it out, or if they make it out,
Speaker 2: you've got Bam Autebaio, You've got Jimmy Butler in a
Speaker 2: revenge spot.
Speaker 3: And even more to the point, you've got PJ.
Speaker 2: Tucker who just doesn't give fuck like he is going
Speaker 2: to rip at everything. He might just swipe at your
Speaker 2: hand period all the time. That's his nature. He's an irritant.
Speaker 2: It's affecting Joel Embiid. Let's talk about it. He averaged
Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds in the first three games of the series,
Speaker 2: only eight in game four after the injury. He averaged
Speaker 2: twenty eight points a game in those three first games,
Speaker 2: twenty one in the Raptors uh in the loss of
Speaker 2: the Raptors. So that means Joel embid operating around seventy
Speaker 2: five percent and without a full Embeid, as I famously
Speaker 2: tweeted rot Row. And then of course, and then of course,
Speaker 2: lots of question marks about what happens next here too.
Speaker 2: He got a man averaging eighteen points per game in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, making thirty three million.
Speaker 3: Dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Toby, you gotta ditch them. How are you gonna ditch Toby?
Speaker 2: Are you going to extend Hardy? What's happening? What's happening
Speaker 2: with our man Moury?
Speaker 3: See what I did there? See what I did there?
Speaker 3: Boom boom boom. That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's move on to the next series because
Speaker 2: it is just electric factory.
Speaker 7: Next one's five. Yeah, uh, that's five. It's a five.
Speaker 7: That's a vibe. Yeah, vibe. Oh, there's a vibe.
Speaker 2: Let's catch you up quickly on the vibe, a vibe
Speaker 2: that the Memphis Grizzlies certainly did not expect when they
Speaker 2: were the number two seed in the West. At this point,
Speaker 2: it feels like they're the seventh seed and and the
Speaker 2: Grizzlies are the two seed and the Timberwolves are the
Speaker 2: two seed. It it's crazy. The Wolves blew a We
Speaker 2: didn't even talk about this. The fact that the Wolves
Speaker 2: blew a massive lead, like they were up twenty multiple
Speaker 2: times during that game and got outscored in the fourth
Speaker 2: quarter thirty seven to nine. A professional basketball team scored
Speaker 2: nine points. In the fourth quarter, a professional basketball team
Speaker 2: got outscored thirty seven to nine. Karl Anthony Towns kitty Cat,
Speaker 2: shot the ball four times in that game. When they
Speaker 2: asked him why, he said, next question, when they asked
Speaker 2: him what he was gonna do to bounce back from
Speaker 2: the loss, he said, I'm just gonna chill out, drink
Speaker 2: a little wine, and I'll get over it. The immaturity
Speaker 2: of these responses when you are supposed to be the
Speaker 2: leader of this team and of this franchise as the
Speaker 2: number one pick, it's it's disgusting. And I don't care
Speaker 2: that his teammates were responsible for not passing the ball
Speaker 2: like he's a front runner. He sang on the broadcast,
Speaker 2: we am Minnesota now. They don't even know we in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: We play him the first two times in Memphis, they
Speaker 2: don't even know what.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be. I told him, I told him, And
Speaker 3: that was when they were twenty five.
Speaker 2: And what happened thirty seven to nine in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 2: to the point where jaw Quote tweeted it we a
Speaker 2: Minnesota now smiley face as a quick decide I did
Speaker 2: not know this, but Jahn Morant's dad, Tea Morant, and
Speaker 2: Carl Anthony Towns's dad are like best friends. What a
Speaker 2: tremendous Also, like, if Jaw's dad is best friends with
Speaker 2: Cat's dad, then probably they're very similar, which means, like,
Speaker 2: how did Carl Anthony.
Speaker 3: Towns become this soft? I mean, like cause it's John You.
Speaker 2: Got Ta Morant literally hating on Jaw his entire life.
Speaker 2: He's Ja Morant's first hater, and like he'll just tell jall, like,
Speaker 2: you suck, Jahn Morant leader in points in the paint,
Speaker 2: you suck like MVP candidate.
Speaker 3: You suck. Anyway, So.
Speaker 2: Jaw tweeted out this laughing emoji the video, saying it
Speaker 2: during the game, I'll play the Minnesota clip for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah we miss now, like I said as in the media,
Speaker 6: all right, cool, we gotta come back to our house now.
Speaker 3: I only seen him at all that house Mando Manda
Speaker 3: we am mi in a seven now bad look, bad
Speaker 3: look anyway.
Speaker 2: Apparently Kat was very pissed that he didn't get the
Speaker 2: ball that game, so much that when he there was
Speaker 2: a time out, he said to them, get me the
Speaker 2: motherfucking ball. These motherfuckers can't guard me. Let's go, and
Speaker 2: they didn't get him the ball for four shots. Uh,
Speaker 2: turns out that he was right that when he gets
Speaker 2: the ball, better things happened. He came out in game
Speaker 2: four and he dominated to the tune of thirty three
Speaker 2: and fourteen. Didn't see that coming light Game one, Memphis zero.
Speaker 3: Answer.
Speaker 2: Now, why is this part important? Well, now they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to make up. Memphis is gonna have to make
Speaker 2: up for less than one hundred percent John Moran, because
Speaker 2: we got something cooking. And John Moran is now telling us,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't look good. He doesn't look the part.
Speaker 3: He's saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred hundred percent. Something is up with Jaw.
Speaker 2: Jos says, yes, I'm not one hundred. I can be
Speaker 2: honest right now, I'm not jaw Right now, I've seen
Speaker 2: y'all's tweets.
Speaker 3: Y'all know what.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I'm not playing above the rim. I'm
Speaker 2: almost there. It's not an excuse. Fuck it, I'm playing
Speaker 2: his knees. Probably not right. He missed what the last
Speaker 2: nine games of the season. He played the last game
Speaker 2: of the season, so like I think it was nine
Speaker 2: he played he missed nine and played the.
Speaker 3: Last I watched him in game what was it four?
Speaker 2: He passed up a wide open layup in Game four
Speaker 2: and then made a pass that turned into a turnover
Speaker 2: instead of him just bamming. He doesn't feel as aggressive
Speaker 2: because that knee is not right and my hackles went up.
Speaker 2: Jaw only had eight only had eleven points in game four.
Speaker 2: The injury I think occurred in Game two in the
Speaker 2: third period when Karl Anthony Towns hit Jaw and he
Speaker 2: had to go back to the locker room. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you remember that, but he was in a
Speaker 2: lot of pain. Looks like the leg has it fully recovered.
Speaker 2: And if you're a Griz fan, you're probably you know,
Speaker 2: ripping your hair out because there were some there suspect
Speaker 2: calls in Game four that happened in Minneapolis. A lot
Speaker 2: of people complaining about the officiating getting too involved, whistle happy.
Speaker 3: You know who is pissed the most, though head.
Speaker 5: Coach play better, but in my opinion, one of the
Speaker 5: most poorly officiated games I've ever seen in my NBA career.
Speaker 5: All five of our starters are borderline fouled out in
Speaker 5: the first quarter. Ten plus foul difference, forty free throws. Yeah,
Speaker 5: some things we got to clean up and get better at.
Speaker 5: But I've never seen a more inconsistent and arrogant, you know,
Speaker 5: officiated game. So I'll take whatever hits come in my way.
Speaker 5: I got to protect our guys. We know we've got
Speaker 5: to get better. But I mean, from the get go,
Speaker 5: it was foul foul, foul, foul, foul, inconsistency. There was
Speaker 5: actually one play where a foul whistle was blown before
Speaker 5: contact was even made. It's embarrassing, you know, But I'm
Speaker 5: always gonna look in the mirror and say, how do
Speaker 5: we play better? How do we coach better? But I'm
Speaker 5: going a loss for words, and that's not I'm not
Speaker 5: going to go as far as saying that's the reason
Speaker 5: we lost, but I'm gonna let it be known that
Speaker 5: that's messed up in arrogance, inconsistency, and big fan you know,
Speaker 5: of the whatever.
Speaker 2: Pat Bev responded, of course, when he heard about the quote,
Speaker 2: he said, I saw the interview with coach Jenkins about
Speaker 2: the referees.
Speaker 3: Very interesting there.
Speaker 2: Especially given the fact they shot forty two free throws
Speaker 2: the first time we played them. I don't think coach,
Speaker 2: Chris Finn Shower coach, complained at all.
Speaker 3: It took it, we won. He took it on the chin.
Speaker 2: You know, two fouls on John Morant, both games won,
Speaker 2: Game three only two.
Speaker 3: I take charges for his third foul. I don't get
Speaker 3: the call.
Speaker 2: But we're not here complaining about the referees. I think
Speaker 2: the referees are in a tough position, and coming from
Speaker 2: a young coach like Taylor Jenkins, that's just something you
Speaker 2: don't do. Me being in this league for a decade,
Speaker 2: that's just something you don't do, especially during playoff time.
Speaker 2: Kind of confused about that. Chippy chippy lippy be I
Speaker 2: said the series was gonna be lit. I said this
Speaker 2: was gonna be my favorite one. It is coming down
Speaker 2: to it. I think this thing's going a distance. The
Speaker 2: Grizzlies are fighting the badger in the box, are getting
Speaker 2: caught in the bear trap, and they are fighting for
Speaker 2: the fucking wives.
Speaker 3: All on one. Prayers up to the Grizzlies buying quiz.
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Speaker 2: Someone took a big I don't know when Phoenix got
Speaker 2: the one set, pretty much like.
Speaker 3: Memphis getting the two seat. I don't think they expected this.
Speaker 2: I think they expected a cute story, a story of
Speaker 2: a team that went one to twelve, made some moves,
Speaker 2: found their identity, have their star players are basically sitting
Speaker 2: on the on the bench full time, eating beignets and
Speaker 2: wearing lots of jewelry.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a very cute story.
Speaker 2: Got CJ. McCollum and the deadline he can score. Brendan Ingram,
Speaker 2: nice player, you know. Nice. Valentcunis, good dude, But like
Speaker 2: we're the fucking phoenix Ons.
Speaker 3: Let's make light work of them.
Speaker 2: And it looks like it possibly could have happened until
Speaker 2: Devin Booker got injured. And now he's on the bench
Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury. So both teams with their star
Speaker 2: players out.
Speaker 3: Except for the New Orleans Pelicans haven't had them all
Speaker 3: year and they've been doing just fine.
Speaker 2: Little rebalancing folks, considering the path that the suns took.
Speaker 3: Last year was filled with injured teams.
Speaker 2: You had the Lakers without Anthony Davis and Lebron James
Speaker 2: who was hampered. You had Denver Nuggets who was missing
Speaker 2: Jamal Murray, and you had the Clippers that was missing
Speaker 2: Kawhi So now you're.
Speaker 3: Facing a team that is young and is.
Speaker 2: Just fearless, and they're athletic, and they're hitting buckets from everywhere,
Speaker 2: and they're doing suns things.
Speaker 3: They're just getting in your face.
Speaker 2: You've got Jose Alverado being the like the irritant that
Speaker 2: Chris Paul is. Jose Alvarado, undrafted guy out of Queens,
Speaker 2: came from Georgia Tech. He is averaging a steal over
Speaker 2: a steal a game. He became like basically in the
Speaker 2: clutch lineup, like pretty close to the end of the season,
Speaker 2: he forced Chris Paul.
Speaker 3: Here's like a testament to how.
Speaker 2: Good Jose Alverado has been, Chris Paul one of the
Speaker 2: best point guards, may be the best point guard ever
Speaker 2: to play the game. Like definitely one of the smartest
Speaker 2: high IQ players, especially in crunch time. Fourth quarter, Jose
Speaker 2: Alvarado came into the game and immediately with his physicality
Speaker 2: forced Chris Paul into an eight second violation in the backcourt.
Speaker 2: Like that is jose Alvarado, a kid that's undrafted from Queens.
Speaker 2: Also Josey Alvarado in the game before Game four, So
Speaker 2: Game three, eight consecutive buckets down the stretch in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. They end up losing that game because Chris
Speaker 2: Paul was just certainly better. But you're talking about a rookie,
Speaker 2: an undrafted rookie making plays.
Speaker 3: Herb Jones, another.
Speaker 2: Guy who was a second rounder, All SEC Player of
Speaker 2: the Year, SEC Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3: Somehow Someway got six.
Speaker 2: Guys in his conference drafted before him, an absolute steal
Speaker 2: which led leads to our next segment coming up just
Speaker 2: tons of blocks to He blocked mckel Bridges in a
Speaker 2: corner three and he wasn't even anywhere near him when
Speaker 2: mckel Bridges went up, Like his length and athleticism is.
Speaker 3: Absurd. It is bananas.
Speaker 2: Herb Jones might be one of the most valuable role
Speaker 2: players in the league right now, and that's considering I
Speaker 2: love mckel Bridges, He's also very valuable role player. Anyone
Speaker 2: who can just like Chris Paul wanted no smoke from
Speaker 2: Herb Jones.
Speaker 3: He couldn't even pass the ball.
Speaker 2: Herb Jones's wingspan is literally like a bubble around Chris
Speaker 2: Paul is too short for all that.
Speaker 3: Herb Jones is just making life a fucking pain.
Speaker 2: And these are guys who aren't even the ones like
Speaker 2: the ones brandon Ingram being unguardable, the.
Speaker 3: Ones, CJ.
Speaker 2: McCollum just being one of those tremendous playmakers. Jonas Valancouna
Speaker 2: is just bodying people down low, getting to the left shoulder, Yeah,
Speaker 2: getting to the left shoulder floater like I think he
Speaker 2: had twenty four rebounds one night. This team is going
Speaker 2: to be in a dog fight. This might go seven
Speaker 2: as well, And there's a legit possibility. I know that
Speaker 2: we don't want to think about it because the Suns
Speaker 2: are such a good team and they're fun. But if
Speaker 2: they don't give Devin Booker soon, they could end up
Speaker 2: getting like bounced out of the first round, which I
Speaker 2: believe would be probably the greatest upset in NBA history,
Speaker 2: an eight beating a one.
Speaker 3: But they're nine an eight. Let's be real, there were
Speaker 3: nine ten. There were nine ten.
Speaker 2: They started one and twelve. They were three and sixteen
Speaker 2: to start.
Speaker 3: The year like they were.
Speaker 2: They were like a super senior, Like they're not even
Speaker 2: supposed to be here, and they're here. I tell you
Speaker 2: what they need book back asap rocky and because this scrappy,
Speaker 2: defensive minded, really well coached by Willie Green is going absolutely.
Speaker 3: Nowhere and they are not.
Speaker 1: I don't know what your quin No, I don't know
Speaker 1: what your quin.
Speaker 2: Me down, donnay come aver this playoffs you're watching Like
Speaker 2: I talked about Jose Alvado, Herb Jones. It shows how
Speaker 2: important a great front office is, Like it makes or
Speaker 2: breaks you. Everybody who has a first like the number
Speaker 2: one overall pick, most people are going to get that
Speaker 2: pick right. They pretty much lay the path for you
Speaker 2: on the internet. You know who the player that you
Speaker 2: need a draft is overall, But like, who are the
Speaker 2: teams that can find guys out off the street and
Speaker 2: they immediately make an impact. Who are guys who like,
Speaker 2: have a early second round pick and get somebody who's
Speaker 2: probably caliber lottery Jose Alurno undrafted guy, but he was
Speaker 2: acc defensive Player of the Year. I think that we
Speaker 2: should start thinking about players that fall into those categories
Speaker 2: and where they slip and say, Okay, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be surprised if they make early impacts because a
Speaker 2: guy like him tenacious. He was the reason Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: was in the tournament. As soon as he left, they
Speaker 2: fell off the cliff. Herb Jones wasn't just SEC Defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, he was SEC Player of the Year,
Speaker 2: and six SEC players were drafted above him. How sway,
Speaker 2: Bones Highland another late pick that Denver ended up getting
Speaker 2: because Denver is good enough or they're not going to
Speaker 2: get a pick in the first lottery. He was so
Speaker 2: good in the game against Golden State. He almost single
Speaker 2: handedly got them the win. Of course, Jokich is Jokic,
Speaker 2: but like, they need another guy and that now is
Speaker 2: Bones Highland, and he.
Speaker 3: Was like anybody could got him anybody. That is what
Speaker 3: we call finding value.
Speaker 2: This is exactly what the team needs to continue to
Speaker 2: do to be a good team, like an elite team
Speaker 2: finding trash off the street, undrafted guys finding value in
Speaker 2: the draft.
Speaker 3: This is what makes a difference.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to quickly take a look at six
Speaker 2: teams who consistently are up there in talent evaluation and
Speaker 2: find huge value in the draft and the waiver wire
Speaker 2: despite not always being in optimal draft situations. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about New Orleans first, because they're better than most. Herb Jones,
Speaker 2: second round Jose al undrafted Trey Murphy went seventeenth in
Speaker 2: the pick with Memphis. He's also a sneaky pick, getting
Speaker 2: a lot of corner threes. David Griffin saved his job
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty one draft. It is insane how
Speaker 2: good these rookies are playing fearless, athletic tough. That's the
Speaker 2: identity of the New Orleans Pelicans right now. Herb Jones
Speaker 2: is a top ten defender in the NBA his rookie year.
Speaker 2: Trey Murphy is getting more run in the playoffs than
Speaker 2: he has all year and is not disappointed.
Speaker 3: Jose Elverado, like I said, just clutch.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, there are some things like
Speaker 2: the emergence of Herb Jones, the emergence of Jose Everrado,
Speaker 2: that changed the landscape of that team, and it made
Speaker 2: me think about there are some things we have no
Speaker 2: control over that impact the course of our future, impact
Speaker 2: the course of our leverage and negotiating power. Do you
Speaker 2: know who has no negotiating power right now? Zion Williamson.
Speaker 2: Zion Williamson is going to try to get a max rookie,
Speaker 2: like he's trying to get a max deal, and.
Speaker 3: Like they just went to the playoffs and took the
Speaker 3: Sun seven. Need Zion, We need not need Zion.
Speaker 2: In fact, Zion might be a detriment And in fact,
Speaker 2: now we have ultimate leverage with other teams because like
Speaker 2: we'll just let Zion's it. We'll play on the regular season.
Speaker 2: It'd be nice, be a nice story. He'll be our
Speaker 2: jumbo lineup. We'll put on our jumbo lineup. It's all good.
Speaker 2: And I do mean jumpbo. So like it's very clear
Speaker 2: that the run stopper, like literally like third goal line,
Speaker 2: we'll put him on the goal line. It is clear
Speaker 2: that the run that the Pells are making after starting
Speaker 2: one to twelve, that Zion has like zero opportunities on
Speaker 2: this roster. I think him not getting back on defense,
Speaker 2: him being a spacing issue. Like now you've got Brendan
Speaker 2: Ingram legit number one option, a superstar. What do you
Speaker 2: do when it's him and Zion and Zion is a
Speaker 2: black hole with the ball, Like, let's be honest, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be very very interesting team's very exciting. Another team Memphis,
Speaker 2: we talked earlier about him. Damn Like if you look
Speaker 2: at him, all.
Speaker 3: The picks that they figured out a way to get.
Speaker 2: Desmond Bane was the last pick in the first round,
Speaker 2: Xavier Tillman and Brooks all slipped to the second round.
Speaker 2: Brooks went forty fifth overall. He was all packed twelve
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 3: Defender, he might be the most valuable player on this team.
Speaker 2: Besides Jaw.
Speaker 3: You've got Zire Williams tenth pick.
Speaker 2: You've got Desmond Bank thirtieth pick, Xavier Tillman, thirty fifth pick,
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks, Brandon Clark as well, twenty first pick traded
Speaker 2: on Draft night from ok See.
Speaker 3: Just players that are legit.
Speaker 2: Getting serious minutes that they got for almost nothing. Toronto
Speaker 2: Raptors also amazing at this. Probably no better talent evaluators
Speaker 2: out there than Massai u.
Speaker 3: Zieri and Nick Nurse.
Speaker 2: How do I know this? Because Scottie Barnes was regarded
Speaker 2: a dumb pick at four. It was like, why would
Speaker 2: you pick him? We've got Jalen Sogs, proven winner Gonzaga,
Speaker 2: you know, jumps up on the scoreboard, game winning shot.
Speaker 3: You need a point guard who's your point guard?
Speaker 2: And it's like no, no, don't you worry about us,
Speaker 2: don't you worry about us? Just wins Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 2: just all overwhelming, like Rookie of the Year winner, perfect
Speaker 2: fit long athletics, which is everything six seven to six nine,
Speaker 2: that's our mold. Jalen Sugs he doesn't fit in that mold.
Speaker 2: What has he done in Orlando? Nothing, no shade to
Speaker 2: Jalen Sugs. But he is in the black hole of
Speaker 2: the NBA, which is the Orlando Magic. So then like
Speaker 2: how does important does he become on this team? Like
Speaker 2: when he goes down with that ankle injury, they lose.
Speaker 2: When he comes back and know Fred van Fleet, they
Speaker 2: win pretty simple. And this is a team that robbed
Speaker 2: the bank for Pascal Siakam at twenty seven twenty seven,
Speaker 2: one of the best.
Speaker 3: Wings in the league. Og Ananobi, another wing.
Speaker 2: Just puts up like twenty one on a regular basis, no,
Speaker 2: no big deal, nobody even talks about him. Twenty third,
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, just steals. And while no teams ever come
Speaker 2: back three to zero in the first round, like with
Speaker 2: Embid being hobbled and Scotty Barn's being back like Scott
Speaker 2: Foster being the the we'll call it a inflection point
Speaker 2: of this series. In Game four, I could see it happening.
Speaker 2: The Sixers do not want to go back to Toronto
Speaker 2: for game sake. They want no part of that smoke.
Speaker 3: They also are picking up guys on the margins raptors
Speaker 3: like Armanni Brooks. He was a ten day guy.
Speaker 2: He got some run in the playoffs and the and
Speaker 2: then he just signed a multi year deal. Phoenix Suns
Speaker 2: not great drafting, not perfect team for drafts, but they've
Speaker 2: been picking up players in like these marginal trades and
Speaker 2: free agency, super astute moves. When you think about it,
Speaker 2: Michel Bridges is they're not like I would say their
Speaker 2: best move that they've made on Draft night, they.
Speaker 3: Traded with Philly. They fleeced them.
Speaker 2: Philly kid mom works for the Sixers, went to Villanova.
Speaker 2: Somehow he ends up in Phoenix and he's like just
Speaker 2: a perfect fit anywhere he goes. They got Jalen Smith,
Speaker 2: who they ended up trading to Indiana.
Speaker 3: He was a perfect filling big man.
Speaker 2: When DeAndre Ayton went down campaign they just stole him
Speaker 2: backup point guard Tory Craig. They got him for I
Speaker 2: think a bag of chips. He just signed a multi
Speaker 2: year deal, but he played in the finals for them
Speaker 2: last year. Who was a great small five. Got Javel
Speaker 2: McGee on a vet minimum, Like did you see I
Speaker 2: think he didn't miss a shot last game. I think
Speaker 2: he went eight for eight. Lander schamt for a low
Speaker 2: end pick, Bismack Bimbo. They took him off the street.
Speaker 2: He was basically on his couch. He became their third
Speaker 2: option as a center, like he's now getting DMPs. Just
Speaker 2: the brains on this team. It's wild Denver. Probably no
Speaker 2: team is squeezing value out of low to middle first
Speaker 2: round picks better than Denver, and second round picks and
Speaker 2: second round picks.
Speaker 3: Jokic soon to be the only.
Speaker 2: Player drafted in the second round to win an MVP,
Speaker 2: probably twice. Three of the last four drafts have landed
Speaker 2: Nuggets porter Zeke Naji and now Bones Highland, who is
Speaker 2: averaging eleven to four and seventeen minutes in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: He hit three huge threes in Game four to win
Speaker 2: that game against Golden State, and then the heat which
Speaker 2: will lead me really quickly after this into our winning
Speaker 2: time recap. But Pat Riley is just fucking ridiculous. Pat
Speaker 2: Riley just one of the greatest, one of the greatest
Speaker 2: executives period and just widely regarded.
Speaker 3: So he knows what he's looking for, and.
Speaker 2: He's he's the quintessential find you in the trash and
Speaker 2: turn you into treasure guy. He's the guy who would
Speaker 2: probably make a killing, like going to garage sales, like
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 3: Like the heat have been.
Speaker 2: Great for fifteen years and they've been able to find
Speaker 2: guys just completely undrafted Bam and Tyler Low lottery m picks,
Speaker 2: Bam added Bio, Tyler hero. But what stuns me is
Speaker 2: they have four players on this team who were undrafted
Speaker 2: free agents. Duncan Robinson, Yes, Max Struce. Max Strus just
Speaker 2: said twenty the other night, gave Vincent he's the one
Speaker 2: locking up.
Speaker 3: Uh Trey Young. Trey Young's telling telling us, I didn't
Speaker 3: even talk about that series. That series is done. Don't
Speaker 3: worry about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. Bose Bucks, that's over. I didn't even
Speaker 2: talk about it because it's done. Don't even worry. Uh
Speaker 2: Trey Young's being like, I've never been been guarded like this.
Speaker 2: All of them playing great, like just great Heat culture.
Speaker 2: They even picked Victor Oladipo up like on a fire.
Speaker 2: Victor Olidipo everybody thought was broken and now he can
Speaker 2: get like twenty seven on any given night. They just
Speaker 2: justice Winslow. They picked up who they ended up flipping
Speaker 2: for value, Josh Richardson, they picked up fortieth.
Speaker 3: He ended up being a nice player in the league.
Speaker 2: And then the teams like Utah and in the Lakers,
Speaker 2: like they just live at the deadline, They just live
Speaker 2: life in the trash zone, and they just consistently underperform.
Speaker 2: So the way forward in the new NBA, I think
Speaker 2: is to maximize the draft when you don't get a
Speaker 2: high draft pick, and then find ways to just be
Speaker 2: smarter than your competition.
Speaker 3: Like the Heat, It's like it's a wonder.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, Golden State got Jordan Bell, Golden
Speaker 2: State got Jordan Pool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. He continues to.
Speaker 6: Show if you got the nerd, lash out for your
Speaker 6: just deserves. It's not just the worst.
Speaker 3: Some of y'all heads up.
Speaker 6: In the cloud.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring y'all back to earth. His black back
Speaker 3: to earth. Bullshit y'all talking about and.
Speaker 6: Bounce your mouth.
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned because y'all got the nerk is.
Speaker 3: Y'all's turned like Detroit Bread.
Speaker 2: It is all weekly Winning Time recount, and it's a
Speaker 2: week too late. Jerry Jerry West has already sued HBO,
Speaker 2: He's hired a defamation lawyer, and that is the week.
Speaker 2: This week is the week that they redeemed Jerry West
Speaker 2: six weeks a little six weeks too late. Truthfully, it's
Speaker 2: been building. I've said it before, like I knew it
Speaker 2: was coming. But the hilarious thing is that Winning Time
Speaker 2: just completely humanized him to the point where you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I see why he's this tormented soul. Like I see
Speaker 2: he's like really taking Magic under his wing. He's like
Speaker 2: really showing him how important it is to just tune
Speaker 2: everyone else out and be singularly focused on winning because
Speaker 2: that's all that matters. And him in Magic got some patico.
Speaker 2: It was like, we'll go into it, We'll go into it.
Speaker 2: The new target though for defamation the guys made out
Speaker 2: to be snakes pat Riley and Paul west Head, both
Speaker 2: men who very much are alive, in order to hire
Speaker 2: their own defamation lawyers. The events, though of Winning Time,
Speaker 2: the funniest thing is that they probably changed the course
Speaker 2: of pat Riley's life forever.
Speaker 3: You're talking about a guy.
Speaker 2: Who was Chick Hearn's sidekick, a guy who is literally
Speaker 2: just getting shit on by Chick Hearn the play by
Speaker 2: play of the Lakers, like over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: A guy who was like probably one year away from
Speaker 2: just living on the beach in a van somewhere, like
Speaker 2: to becoming the greatest executive and head coach.
Speaker 3: One of them in a long ass time.
Speaker 2: And all because Jack McKinney got into a bike accident,
Speaker 2: he became the assistant coach, interim interim head coach. Just
Speaker 2: crazy shows how unpredictable life is because also you just
Speaker 2: never know who those people are. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 2: living in van somewhere on the beach, but like, it
Speaker 2: just shows you how an opportunity, the right opportunity being
Speaker 2: there can change the course of history forever. He is now,
Speaker 2: like I said, one of the best executives of our generation,
Speaker 2: and now HBO is calling him a snake. Somebody who
Speaker 2: somebody who basically shived Jack McKinney how went publicly on
Speaker 2: TV and said, yeah, I don't think it's a good
Speaker 2: idea for him to come back until, you know, next year,
Speaker 2: We've been here with for fifty plus games without him.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a huge risk to the
Speaker 2: Lakers organization for us to try to integrate him back in.
Speaker 3: It would be unfair to the team just they just.
Speaker 2: Made him look like a total asshole, and Paul Westhead
Speaker 2: also looked very unloyal, which one and then also I
Speaker 2: think this is like more of an off the court
Speaker 2: drama episode, but it does touch on the All Star
Speaker 2: game in Larry Bird and Magic's first year where they
Speaker 2: became the face of the league, how that ended up happening,
Speaker 2: the relationship between Cookie and Magic, the relationship between Magic
Speaker 2: and Doctor J. How Doctor J was finessing him to
Speaker 2: get Magic comfortable just so that he could put his
Speaker 2: boot on his fucking neck when they played and just
Speaker 2: bam on him things that you know, you just hate
Speaker 2: to see. They also slandered Larry a little bit too,
Speaker 2: because I don't think he was anywhere as much of
Speaker 2: an asshole as they show him to be. You know,
Speaker 2: they showed, like I said, they showed Doctor J schmoozing
Speaker 2: Magic just just because.
Speaker 3: They were playing him.
Speaker 2: Right after the All Star break, just so he could
Speaker 2: steam roll him get his guard down. And that was
Speaker 2: the moment that they humanized Jerry West that I talked
Speaker 2: about because he sat down with Magic and he told
Speaker 2: him the fame story about how Bill Russell used to
Speaker 2: glad hand Wilt Chamberlain being so friendly so as to
Speaker 2: take away his edge when they played each other, and
Speaker 2: that is why Russell won eleven NBA chips and Wilt
Speaker 2: won two. As an aside, though Doctor J's legendary rock
Speaker 2: the Baby dunk that they showed on Winning Time actually
Speaker 2: happened in nineteen eighty three, so not nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one of the greatest dunks of all time.
Speaker 2: But Jerry West quote to Magic was the quote of
Speaker 2: the week. He said this, I scored two thousand, No,
Speaker 2: twenty five thou one hundred and ninety two points in
Speaker 2: my career.
Speaker 3: Do you know what keeps me up at night?
Speaker 2: If I had scored ten more points in five games,
Speaker 2: I'd have five more rings. Magic takes notes and he
Speaker 2: tells Jerry West, I don't just want to win, I
Speaker 2: need to And Jerry West said, well, we're about to
Speaker 2: find out.
Speaker 3: WHOA doesn't that just give you goosebumps. Watch the fucking show.
Speaker 2: Even though it's a fictional account, I'm sure at some
Speaker 2: point Magic did sit down with Jerry and he gave
Speaker 2: him the wust what And even though it's fictionalized, I
Speaker 2: think they managed to capture.
Speaker 3: This essence perfectly. Great show you need to be watching.
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