WEBVTT - 5 Lessons from Grief, Brain Hacks for Focus, Finding Closure, & a Game-Changing Parenting Tip

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<v Speaker 1>Good cats up thing, little food for yourself life. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful. That

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<v Speaker 1>for a little more exciting, said, he cut your kicking

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<v Speaker 1>with four Thing with Amy Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Four Things Amy here, and I got four totally different

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<v Speaker 3>things for you. So what we call an OG four

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<v Speaker 3>things episode. Now, the first thing I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 3>into is a heartfelt email that I got from a listener,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's sharing with us five lessons that grief has

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<v Speaker 3>taught her. She unexpectedly lost her husband and her story

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<v Speaker 3>is very very powerful. Second thing, I got more brain

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<v Speaker 3>exercises for you. Yeah, you'll like the ones that Kat

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<v Speaker 3>and I went over. We're on Tuesday, so I've got

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<v Speaker 3>some more that'll help you boost concentration and beat distraction.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the third thing is going to be about closure.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we crave it and we get stuck in a

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<v Speaker 3>y trap and we can't move forward unless we have

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<v Speaker 3>that full closure. So I've got some tips for you

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<v Speaker 3>on that. This is something I had to revisit for

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<v Speaker 3>myself recently, so I thought it might be helpful for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the fourth thing, I've got a game changing

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<v Speaker 3>tip for parents or co parents. I mean, this episode

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely a mix of some heartfelt stuff and just

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<v Speaker 3>really practical helpful things, So hope you enjoy it. Here

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<v Speaker 3>we go, first man, Right, yeah, all right. So the

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<v Speaker 3>other day I was in my four Things podcast email

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<v Speaker 3>inbox and I saw an email come in from a

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<v Speaker 3>listener named Audra, and in the subject line it said

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<v Speaker 3>grateful young widow. So I clicked on it, knowing that

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<v Speaker 3>it's probably going to be on the heavier side of things.

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<v Speaker 3>And as of course, as I read the email, I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my gosh, I can't even imagine going through what she

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<v Speaker 3>went through, And I'm thankful that she's sharing some of

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<v Speaker 3>her story in the email, and I'll read that to

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<v Speaker 3>you in just a second. What I was very grateful

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<v Speaker 3>for that she included was in the email she talked

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<v Speaker 3>about how at the five year anniversary of her husband's death,

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<v Speaker 3>she decided to compile the top five lessons that grief

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<v Speaker 3>has taught her, and she took screenshot of that of

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<v Speaker 3>what she put on socials at the five year mark,

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<v Speaker 3>and she attached it at the bottom of the email,

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<v Speaker 3>along with a picture of her and her kids from

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<v Speaker 3>this last Christmas and a picture of her husband Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>So I love when there are photos I can put

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<v Speaker 3>a face to a name. And I'm just very thankful

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<v Speaker 3>to Audra for opening up and sharing some of her

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<v Speaker 3>story with us. And I know that this will be

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<v Speaker 3>helpful for somebody listening right now. You may not be

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<v Speaker 3>grieving the loss of a significant other, maybe grieving something

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<v Speaker 3>else in lifefe, but whatever you take from this, I

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<v Speaker 3>know that it'll be helpful, whether for now or stick

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<v Speaker 3>it in your pocket for later, because grief is unavoidable. Hey, Amy,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to share with you that I love listening

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<v Speaker 3>to the Bobby Bone Show and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesdays and Thursdays to hear your little nuggets of wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>for the week. They somehow always resonate with whatever I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about or going through at the moment. Five and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years ago, my husband Ryan, who was forty

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<v Speaker 3>three at the time, unexpectedly passed away. He had an

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<v Speaker 3>undiagnosed heart condition, went into cardiac arrest and crashed while

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<v Speaker 3>driving into work one rainy August morning. Because his heart

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<v Speaker 3>had stopped, he went without oxygen for too long and

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<v Speaker 3>suffered severe brain damage. He was put on life support

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<v Speaker 3>and I had to make the decision to finally let

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<v Speaker 3>him go. I suddenly became a widow at the age

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<v Speaker 3>of forty two, with three young children to raise. Alexa

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<v Speaker 3>had just turned fourteen in July, Olivia turned eleven five

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<v Speaker 3>days after Ryan passed, and my son Jase had just

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<v Speaker 3>turned six in June. As you know, there are so

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<v Speaker 3>many facets to grief, and on the five year anniversary

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<v Speaker 3>of Ryan's death this past year, I shared the top

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<v Speaker 3>of five lessons grief taught me. I knew by being

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable it had to help someone else who was trying

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate their way through grief. I've heard you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Pegosa Springs, Colorado often. I've never known anyone else

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about this beautiful, quaint town.

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<v Speaker 2>You see.

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<v Speaker 3>A month before my husband passed away, we drove with

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<v Speaker 3>our three kids from Iowa to meet up with my parents, sister,

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<v Speaker 3>her family, and brother, who all also live in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>We all went to Pegosa Springs for a week. We

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<v Speaker 3>later realized it would be the last family vacation we

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<v Speaker 3>would have with Ryan. We made so many memories and

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<v Speaker 3>shared so many laughs on that trip. We even spontaneously

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<v Speaker 3>had our family pictures taken while we were there. I

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<v Speaker 3>thank God every day for those photos. I never got

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<v Speaker 3>to visit your sister and brother in law's coffee shop,

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<v Speaker 3>but I desperately want to go back one day. Pagosa

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<v Speaker 3>Springs has a special place in my heart. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>the pieces of your life's journey you've shared post divorce,

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<v Speaker 3>navigating new relationships and just trying to do life without

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<v Speaker 3>a partner. Ryan's death was tragic and he will always

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of my life. But without the heart ache, grief,

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<v Speaker 3>and pain, I would not have experienced true love with

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<v Speaker 3>him or had the opportunity to figure out who I am,

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<v Speaker 3>what I want in this life, and what my journey

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<v Speaker 3>is all about. For that, I have gratitude, and while

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not dating currently, if and when the right man

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<v Speaker 3>does come along, I will be going into the relationship

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<v Speaker 3>as the best version of myself and have the ability

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<v Speaker 3>to navigate the challenges of life with confidence, emotional maturity,

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<v Speaker 3>and grace. Kind regards Odra. So that's the email she wrote,

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<v Speaker 3>and then, as I mentioned, she attached what she posted

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<v Speaker 3>on socials for the five year anniversary and the five

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<v Speaker 3>lessons she has learned from grief. So I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to read her entire post. In order to heal after loss,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to grieve. Grieving is a powerful emotion that

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<v Speaker 3>evolves from a loss's impact on your heart. The grief

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<v Speaker 3>journey becomes each person's unique story. It is nonlinear and

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<v Speaker 3>undefined by timelines or hard fast rules. Five years ago today,

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<v Speaker 3>my husband Ryan was on his way into work. An

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<v Speaker 3>unknown heart condition caused him to suddenly go into cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 3>His truck veered off the road and crashed at the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom of a steep ditch. Ryan's heart had stopped for

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<v Speaker 3>too long and the impact of the crash was severe.

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<v Speaker 3>On August twenty first, twenty nineteen, I was told there

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<v Speaker 3>was no hope for recovery, and I had to make

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<v Speaker 3>a decision whether to leave him on life support. Because

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<v Speaker 3>I knew what Ryan's wishes were, I finally let him go.

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<v Speaker 3>The days in ICU with Ryan and the week that

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<v Speaker 3>followed were the hardest, saddest days of my life. My

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<v Speaker 3>journey to healing has taken a lot of time and work.

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<v Speaker 3>I started by trying to pick up the biggest broken pieces. First,

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<v Speaker 3>I found a new normal for the kids, and I

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<v Speaker 3>put my heart and soul into making sure we were

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<v Speaker 3>not only going to survive, but thrive. Working through grief

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<v Speaker 3>and trauma has taught me so much, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>say these are the top five lessons. One. Grief is

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<v Speaker 3>the price you pay for love. Grief has a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of emotions attached to it that don't feel good. There's anger, sadness,

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<v Speaker 3>what ifs, resentment, and so much more. However, it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to remember these feelings wouldn't exist if you hadn't experience

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<v Speaker 3>It's the greatest gift of all love. Two events in

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<v Speaker 3>your life become a before and an after. In the after,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not the same person you are in the before.

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<v Speaker 3>Since Ryan's death, I have been able to connect to

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<v Speaker 3>the lost and forgotten parts of myself. I know I

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<v Speaker 3>can do hard things. I love my people hard and

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that they know and feel my love. I

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<v Speaker 3>know who I am, and I have a clear vision

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<v Speaker 3>of the life I want to create. I find joy

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<v Speaker 3>in life's smallest, simplest moments and cherish time and relationships

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<v Speaker 3>others may take for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>Three.

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<v Speaker 3>I figured out there is meaning behind the five stages

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<v Speaker 3>of grief denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. As I look

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<v Speaker 3>back on my own grief journey, I saw myself in

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<v Speaker 3>each of those stages without even realizing it. If you

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<v Speaker 3>are open to it, a good therapist can help you

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<v Speaker 3>unpack and identify the why behind the mix of emotions

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<v Speaker 3>your feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>Four. Gratitude is a gift.

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<v Speaker 3>However, it took me a long time to find it

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<v Speaker 3>after a traumatic loss, it is very difficult to see

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<v Speaker 3>gratitude amongst the anger, sadness, and tears. By giving myself

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<v Speaker 3>grace and space, it has allowed me to see the

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<v Speaker 3>blessings that I still had in front of me. A

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<v Speaker 3>piece of healing is eventually finding the rainbow after the storm.

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<v Speaker 3>Five It's okay to not be okay. There are times

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<v Speaker 3>when grief will still sneak up on you out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 3>But you know your healing when you were able to

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledge your feelings, let yourself feel what you need to feel,

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<v Speaker 3>and move forward without staying under the black cloud that

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<v Speaker 3>grief can put you under. So there you go the

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<v Speaker 3>five lessons grief has taught her, and she shared that

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<v Speaker 3>on the five year anniversary of her husband's passing. So Odre,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you so much much for sharing some of your

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<v Speaker 3>story with us, and I really hope you get to

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<v Speaker 3>go back to Pagosa one day and take your kids

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<v Speaker 3>and relive some of those memories that you'll had and

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<v Speaker 3>have some of the laughter, and it'll feel like your

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<v Speaker 3>husband is there with you. Maybe even one day you

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<v Speaker 3>go with a new partner and you find a partner

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<v Speaker 3>that will allow Ryan to still be a part of

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<v Speaker 3>your life, a part of your family, part of your kids' lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe it or not, there are some people that may

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<v Speaker 3>not be able to handle something like that, But there

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<v Speaker 3>is someone out there that would be able to take

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<v Speaker 3>a trip like that and really make it special and

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledge all of the memories that were made and create

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<v Speaker 3>new memories with you, but still having that presence of

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan with y'all all the time, without any fear that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't care for them. You only care for Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>You can still love Ryan and love this new partner.

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<v Speaker 3>And I only share this because Audre and I have

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<v Speaker 3>been emailing back and forth a little bit since she

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<v Speaker 3>sent this note, and I know she's not dating yet,

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<v Speaker 3>and she mentioned that in the email. But there is

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<v Speaker 3>hope and she may find someone at some point, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind, I'm just picturing them taking a trip

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<v Speaker 3>to Pagosa. All is one big, happy family, and stop

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<v Speaker 3>and buy the coffee shop.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta go buy Roothhouse. That will definitely be special.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Pagosa.

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<v Speaker 3>If y'all are ever in southern Colorado, definitely swing through.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit in the hot springs, go for a hike, and

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, Roothhouse Coffee right along the river.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my sister's coffee shop.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can go get a cup of good coffee,

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<v Speaker 3>a latte, or you can even have a cocktail. They

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<v Speaker 3>serve those as well. Really good ranch waters, really good

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<v Speaker 3>cinnamon buns. Now, oh kish Now, I'm just thinking all

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<v Speaker 3>of the amazing things that my sister has on the

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<v Speaker 3>menu there. But I love that you shared some of

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<v Speaker 3>your story with us, Audre, and I know that it

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<v Speaker 3>will resonate with somebody. Whatever it is that you are grieving.

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<v Speaker 3>It may not be the loss of a part. We

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<v Speaker 3>all are going to agrieve in life. It's unavoidable. But

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<v Speaker 3>I specially loved Adra's first lesson that she shared. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the price you pay for love, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the greatest gifts. So thank you, Audra. Second, on Tuesday's

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<v Speaker 3>fifth Thing, Kat and I went over adhd exercises for

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<v Speaker 3>focus and productivity. And today I've got more for you,

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<v Speaker 3>but these are for focus and memory. The first brain

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<v Speaker 3>hack skill exercise. If you heard Kat and I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>on Tuesday, she really did not like that I was

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<v Speaker 3>calling these brain hacks. So whatever, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's an easier way to say it. So the first

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<v Speaker 3>brain hack I've got for you is the memory place game.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is best for strengthening your working memory, which

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<v Speaker 3>if you've got ADHD, you struggle with this, But maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have ADHD, but you're like, oh, I am

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<v Speaker 3>having some memory issues.

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<v Speaker 2>This will work for you too.

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<v Speaker 3>So what you need to do is visualize a place

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<v Speaker 3>you know well, like your house. Assign objects or words

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<v Speaker 3>to different rooms. This will help with recall. So an

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<v Speaker 3>example would be if you need to remember your grocery list,

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<v Speaker 3>picture milk in your fridge, bananas on your couch, and

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<v Speaker 3>bread in your bed. Now, the more ridiculous the imagery,

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<v Speaker 3>the easier it is to remember. It's called the memory

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<v Speaker 3>Place game. And I know this sounds a little cuckoo,

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<v Speaker 3>but it works. The second hack is the brain dump method. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is best for racing thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Or idea overload.

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<v Speaker 3>What you need to do is set a five minute

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<v Speaker 3>timer and write down every thought that is swirling in

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<v Speaker 3>your head. No filtering, you're just right, right, right, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>This helps clear mental clutters so that you can focus

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<v Speaker 3>on what actually matters. And a little bonus tip for

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<v Speaker 3>this is use different color pins for priorities versus random thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>Third brain hack the dopamine menu. Now, this is for motivation.

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<v Speaker 3>Really will help you be boredom or task paralysis. So

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<v Speaker 3>what you got to do is make a list of

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<v Speaker 3>things that boost your dopamine like music, movement, certain snacks,

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<v Speaker 3>a book that you love, a show. What's something that

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<v Speaker 3>boosts your dopamine and when you need motivation, pick one

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<v Speaker 3>dopamine booster first, then start your task. Example, before I

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<v Speaker 3>do emails, I'll listen to one hype song, or before

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<v Speaker 3>I clean, I'll have a snack and put on my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite podcast. That's a little dopamine menu. Like, you make

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<v Speaker 3>the menu and then you know what you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>before each thing to get your dopamine hit. Next tack

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<v Speaker 3>is the clocks everywhere trick. This is best for time blindness. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>ADHD brains lose track of time constantly so what we

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<v Speaker 3>gotta do is put visible clocks everywhere, not just on

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<v Speaker 3>our phones. We needn't have timers and alarms for everything,

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<v Speaker 3>set reminders five to ten minutes before you need to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if y'all were to open up in my clock

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<v Speaker 3>app on my phone, you would see so many timers

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<v Speaker 3>and alarms for everything. Because that's what I have to

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<v Speaker 3>do to help keep myself on track. It's very helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>Or if I'm in my house, I'll ask Alexa to

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<v Speaker 3>set a timer for something. I just need this because

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<v Speaker 3>time blindness is very very real for me. Right. The

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<v Speaker 3>final hack, which honestly, I'm not even sure I could

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<v Speaker 3>pull this one off, but it's called the one tab

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<v Speaker 3>role for productivity. It's best for preventing distractions while working.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me tell you, in ADHD brain loves opening

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred tabs and then forgetting what they're doing completely.

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<v Speaker 3>This little tip wants you to commit to one tab

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<v Speaker 3>at a time. If you need another, you write it

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<v Speaker 3>down instead of opening up a tab immediately. You can

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<v Speaker 3>only go back to it like you write it down,

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<v Speaker 3>and then when you're done with one tab, then you

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<v Speaker 3>can type in what you need to do, like right now,

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<v Speaker 3>on my computer. I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I have fourteen tabs open, which honestly is not that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But I know what all those tabs mean, and I

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<v Speaker 3>actually thrive with the tabs. But I'm sure there is

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<v Speaker 3>something to the one tab roll, and I'd probably thrive

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<v Speaker 3>even more if I would try this tip out. But

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<v Speaker 3>some of them I keep open because I know I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do see the idea behind executing getting rid

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<v Speaker 3>of one tab boom, and then going to your list,

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<v Speaker 3>what was the next tab I need to open?

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<v Speaker 2>So one tab role.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to try that one out, let me

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<v Speaker 3>know if any of these work for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we got third day.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's talk about closure, because well, I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that we've likely all struggled with at

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<v Speaker 3>some point, like whether it's a breakup or a friendship

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<v Speaker 3>that fizzled or ended, or just any situation that never

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<v Speaker 3>fully has been resolved. It's really really hard to move

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<v Speaker 3>on without that final answer. And I will say, sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>we want to receive that final answer, but also sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>we want to give other people closure because we feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it will be good for them, when maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily our role. You may not have to provide that,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a whole other thing to work through as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I read something from psychologists Kavyat Shrivastov. Totally not

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<v Speaker 3>sure if I'm saying her name right, but I gave

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<v Speaker 3>it my best shot and it really hit close to home.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, closure isn't about what the other person gives you,

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<v Speaker 3>It's about how you process what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The main reasons behind why we crave closure are pretty obvious. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>it helps us find peace after being hurt. It stops

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<v Speaker 3>us from just ruminating over it, obsessing over any answered

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<v Speaker 3>questions that we have. It helps us move forward without

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<v Speaker 3>lingering regrets of sorts, and pretty much closure is like

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling an emotional envelope. That's how I visualize it in

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<v Speaker 3>my head, like you're able to just close it shut

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<v Speaker 3>without it, you keep going into the envelope to reread

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<v Speaker 3>all the old stuff, the letters, the messages, and you

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<v Speaker 3>try to make it make sense and you can't. And

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<v Speaker 3>the hard truth about closure is sometimes we think that

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<v Speaker 3>it has to come from the other person, like we

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<v Speaker 3>need to hear them explain or apologize or even validate

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is that happened, But that's not always going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen again because they don't even owe it to us.

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<v Speaker 3>Now in some circumstances, Yes it's not a blanket statement,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's just say, for the sake of this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>it's never going to happen. You're not going to get

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<v Speaker 3>the closure. So then what what do you do? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when you get stuck in the wide trap and

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, why did they do this? Was it me?

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<v Speaker 3>What could I have done differently? How could I fix it?

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<v Speaker 3>And those types of questions will leave us spiraling forever.

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<v Speaker 3>So the key for us is to accept that we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need all the answers to move forward. And I

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<v Speaker 3>have had to practice this multiple times in my adult life,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wish I better understood this as a teen

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<v Speaker 3>and a young young adult as well, because the power

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<v Speaker 3>of acceptance is so good. And now that I know acceptance,

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<v Speaker 3>it just helps me. And I know that it could

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<v Speaker 3>sound like if you're accepting that, you're just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>rolling over and being like, Okay, cool, you know this

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<v Speaker 3>horrible thing happened and I'm fine with it. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>not what the acceptance part is. Acceptance just means that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to fight it. You're going to fight

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening. It means instead of obsessing over why something happened,

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<v Speaker 3>you focus on what you can do next. A little

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<v Speaker 3>mantra that I had in my back pocket for twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, like, I was using

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<v Speaker 3>this one a lot. I may not understand it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can heal anyway. Because there was so much I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't understanding and I didn't have answers to, but I

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<v Speaker 3>knew I had the ability to heal anyway. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 3>was hard for me to just move on. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>like the idea of that, so I would think of

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<v Speaker 3>it more as like moving along or moving forward, Like

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<v Speaker 3>despite what was happening, I was going to move forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes I would move backwards, but at least I was moving.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a small shift from the word moving on to

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward, but for me it made a big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt more practical and less forced. The energy a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit different. I don't know see if that resonates

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<v Speaker 3>with you, Like if you say I'm moving on or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm moving forward, there's different energy there. So then comes

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<v Speaker 3>the time where you'd have to really give yourself closure Again,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not coming from the other person, it is coming

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<v Speaker 3>from within you. At the end of the day, finding

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<v Speaker 3>closure is you choosing yourself because you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>let those thoughts take up any more space rent free

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<v Speaker 3>in your brain. So one thing you need to do

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<v Speaker 3>because who knows how long you've been thinking these thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some of you listening right now, I know

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<v Speaker 3>we're holding onto things from ten years ago and you

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<v Speaker 3>want closure and you have been wondering why for the

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<v Speaker 3>last ten years or maybe it was just ten days ago. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is going to be awesome for you to be

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<v Speaker 3>reminded of this. I'm not saying anything new, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gathering a lot of different things that I

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<v Speaker 3>was taught over the last five years that I learned.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of this I picked up in alan On. That

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<v Speaker 3>is all about surrender releasing control. When you are stuck

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<v Speaker 3>in trying to figure out the why of what happened,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are stuck wanting closure from somebody else, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the opposite of surrendering. You have to focus on

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<v Speaker 3>what you can control, and you can't control that So

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<v Speaker 3>whether you've been trying to operate that way, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>for ten years or ten days, pause and forgive yourself

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<v Speaker 3>for holding on for however long it was. Let go

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<v Speaker 3>of any resentment towards the person. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>carry that around, and then prioritize peace.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Waiting on that one last conversation or that one last explanation,

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<v Speaker 3>just know that you don't actually need it. Your piece

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<v Speaker 3>is within you. It's not dependent on what they do.

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<v Speaker 3>This is honestly one of those things like when I

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<v Speaker 3>was typing out what I wanted to say about this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I need to email this to myself

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<v Speaker 3>so I can go back and read it when I

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<v Speaker 3>need it, or maybe I'll pull this part of the

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<v Speaker 3>podcast and listen to it when I need it, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think we all crave closure, and we can know

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<v Speaker 3>that this is what we need to do to let

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<v Speaker 3>it go and not get all wrapped up, and that

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<v Speaker 3>we need answers from somebody else when we're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>force it. Now, if someone wants to volunteer that information,

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<v Speaker 3>that's totally fine, But does knowing that really change things

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<v Speaker 3>for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Fully?

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<v Speaker 3>I know there are things that I have ended where

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<v Speaker 3>I believe the person would appreciate more closure. And at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time, I felt like what I was able

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<v Speaker 3>to share was enough without getting wrapped back up into

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<v Speaker 3>unhealthy patterns that we were in. So also, like I

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<v Speaker 3>said at the beginning of this thing, is sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>feel the need to over explain why we're making a

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<v Speaker 3>decision so that we can protect that other person's feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>That is not our responsibility as long as we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>something in a kind way and staying on our side

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<v Speaker 3>of the street. And what you're trying to do when

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to get closure from somebody else is you're

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<v Speaker 3>going into their side of the street. You need to

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<v Speaker 3>focus on your side of the street, whether you're the

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<v Speaker 3>one wanting the closure or you're the one that is

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<v Speaker 3>ending something and you feel like you need to give

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<v Speaker 3>all of this closure so they feel better. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you can express things in a concise, kind way on

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<v Speaker 3>your side of the street.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you start to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Into all of the nitty gritty of you did this

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<v Speaker 3>and you did that, and that's not staying on your

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<v Speaker 3>side of the street. And so sometimes it's best to

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<v Speaker 3>just keep it brief and respectful and kind the other

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<v Speaker 3>person might be hurt by that, and you can feel

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay to feel that pain. I have certainly felt

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<v Speaker 3>it before, and it's not fun. It's not fun. But

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, we all have to

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<v Speaker 3>protect our own peace. So I hope if there's something

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<v Speaker 3>that you need to accept that this will be that

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<v Speaker 3>final little kick in the pants to do it, give

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<v Speaker 3>yourself the closure you need. You're able to do it

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<v Speaker 3>without anybody else. All right. This final thing is a

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<v Speaker 3>parenting tip, but you don't have to be married parents

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. You could be co parents. Now. I

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<v Speaker 3>will say I was talking about this with one of

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<v Speaker 3>my friends who has like a loser ex husband, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he is a loser with a capital L.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was like, this would never work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, there's nothing positive about my kid's dad that

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<v Speaker 3>I can say, because that's that's the tip, is to

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<v Speaker 3>brag about your partner or your ex in front of

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<v Speaker 3>your child or children. And she was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>do it. I can't think of anything. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>surely you can think of something, and I know that

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<v Speaker 3>she can deep down. Now there might be someone that's

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<v Speaker 3>even like loser all capital letters and so in that case,

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<v Speaker 3>you can just throw this tip out the window. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need you to find ways to brag about that

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<v Speaker 3>type of person. But if you're in an okay, ish

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<v Speaker 3>to healthy relationship with your partner or your ex. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>if it's your partner, you're in a healthy relationship. But

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'm focusing on the X thing since I'm

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<v Speaker 3>divorced and my friend that I was talking to is divorced.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you have opportunities to brag about your partner

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<v Speaker 3>in front of your child or children, it's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>It models kindness and appreciation at home. Your child will

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<v Speaker 3>start to notice the small efforts that you and others

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<v Speaker 3>put in. They'll also start expressing their appreciation out loud,

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<v Speaker 3>which is huge because here's the deal. If they hear

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<v Speaker 3>us criticize or focus on someone's mistakes, they will learn

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<v Speaker 3>to do the same. You know, where kids are paying

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<v Speaker 3>attention to everything and picking things up like sponges. But

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<v Speaker 3>Ben and I are really trying to do this. We're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to be complimentary of each other in front of

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<v Speaker 3>the kids, and we try to have a united front

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<v Speaker 3>so the kids don't try to take advantage of anything, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say this in front of mom and

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<v Speaker 3>do this in front of dad, and and they have

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<v Speaker 3>this whole scheme going on. We talk about everything, and

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<v Speaker 3>we keep each other in the loop, so nothing's getting

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<v Speaker 3>by us.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're not always perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>I've told stories on here before like our co parenting

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<v Speaker 3>relationship is far from perfect. But this is also a

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<v Speaker 3>challenge for me. Even though I already do it, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to look for more opportunities to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>to brag on their dad in front of them. And

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<v Speaker 3>I may need to remind him to make sure he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing that about me in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he does it all the time. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he can't help himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Just kidding. Okay, Well, that's it. That's today's episode. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope y'all are having the day that you need to have.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want to send us any of your

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts about any of this, or any story you have

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<v Speaker 3>to share, or anything going in your life, or any

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<v Speaker 3>question that you have for Kat and myself coming up

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<v Speaker 3>on a fifth Thing episode or something for Outweigh that's

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<v Speaker 3>coming up, or you've got something on your mind that's

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<v Speaker 3>body image, body dysmorphia, food, related that would fall into

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<v Speaker 3>the outwagh category. But you can email me at four

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<v Speaker 3>Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com and just

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<v Speaker 3>put outwegh in the title and I'll see that. Leanne

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<v Speaker 3>and I are going to be recording some episodes soon,

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<v Speaker 3>so I always like to see what y'all would like

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<v Speaker 3>to hear about. So yeah, I hope y'all are having

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<v Speaker 3>the day that you need to have and I'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye.