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Speaker 4: What is up golf fans and welcome to the Draft
Speaker 4: Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on
Speaker 4: today's show, we have a new player, a rookie, a
Speaker 4: first round draft pick for the first time since twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one. The last guy we took in this spot
Speaker 4: was also an edge rusher and Jalen Phillips. We now
Speaker 4: have Chop Robinson from Penn State at twenty first pick
Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Will break down
Speaker 4: his game. We'll go ahead and take a look at
Speaker 4: how he might fit in this defense. We'll hear from
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer. Go ahead and do my
Speaker 4: evaluation on Chop Robinson. Take a look at how the
Speaker 4: bard laid out for the first round for Miami and
Speaker 4: some Day two options. All of that and more from
Speaker 4: the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
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Speaker 4: Might be asking yourself, Travis, is his name actually Chop? Well,
Speaker 4: that was not his given name. It was Damian Chop Robinson.
Speaker 4: The reason he was named Chop was because he was
Speaker 4: fourteen pounds when he was born, earned the nickname pork
Speaker 4: Chop and that was later shortened to Chop when he
Speaker 4: started to slim down in middle school. Per Dane Briggler's
Speaker 4: The Athletics, So this is a pass rusher out of
Speaker 4: Penn State who gets after quarterbacks, gets in the backfield,
Speaker 4: and there's a bunch of data the back set up
Speaker 4: for Chop Robinson. Let's go ahead and first take a
Speaker 4: look at that data. With a twenty point eight percent
Speaker 4: pass rush win rate last season, he was top ten
Speaker 4: in all of college football. It reminds me of a
Speaker 4: press conference with Chris Career back in twenty twenty two
Speaker 4: when a question was posed to him, what do you
Speaker 4: think about Bradley Chubb's impact since being acquired at the
Speaker 4: trade deadline and in the fact that he only has
Speaker 4: a couple of sacks right now, And Chris Greer essentially
Speaker 4: told us, well, the analytics that we operate by tell
Speaker 4: us that Bradley Chubb has been an effective pass rusher,
Speaker 4: and I will argue until I'm blue in the face
Speaker 4: that getting after quarterbacks and disrupting the timing of the
Speaker 4: passing game, changing their launch point, changing how they see
Speaker 4: the field is the most important thing age rusher or
Speaker 4: anyone the pressures the quarterback can do. And I always
Speaker 4: bring this up to that I believe that Jason Taylor's
Speaker 4: best game as a Dolphin was a game they only
Speaker 4: had one sack in back in two thousand and two
Speaker 4: against the Denver Broncos because he was in Brian Greasie's
Speaker 4: face all night, forced to pick off of a big
Speaker 4: hit he on the quarterback, and was just present in
Speaker 4: the backfield all night long. I think it's very important
Speaker 4: for a pass rusher to just be in the backfield,
Speaker 4: change the quarterbacks the trajectory of where their drop is,
Speaker 4: and just basically make them feel your presence the entire game.
Speaker 4: That's been number one thing when I look at players
Speaker 4: at that position, and you go back to the data
Speaker 4: here from Pro Football Focus and the pressure numbers, the
Speaker 4: pass rush win rate, as we referenced earlier, I mean
Speaker 4: twenty six pressures last year, forty eight pressures the year before,
Speaker 4: consistently on quarterbacks and harassing them. And that's what a
Speaker 4: pretty limited rush count to one forty eight last season
Speaker 4: two sixty seven, two years ago. So every fifth rush
Speaker 4: he's putting a pressure on the quarterback and disrupting those
Speaker 4: guys that way. The stop numbers are not gotty. We'll
Speaker 4: talk about that in the run defense here in just
Speaker 4: a second.
Speaker 2: But I look at his.
Speaker 4: Tape and I see you guys are not gonna want
Speaker 4: to hear the comparison. But the burst out of the
Speaker 4: stance and Chris Greer references in this press conference, it's
Speaker 4: Cam Wake level explosive. I know you guys remember him
Speaker 4: in the nine technique, that wide rush position. All four
Speaker 4: fingers are all four points in the dirt and a
Speaker 4: four point stance and just getting past the right tackle
Speaker 4: on sheer speed alone, that's CHOP's get off man. I
Speaker 4: put down his numbers here six zero two seven, So
Speaker 4: I'm a little under six three sixty two or three
Speaker 4: quarters two hundred and fifty five pounds of four to
Speaker 4: four to eight forty at that position is absurd. A
Speaker 4: one five three ten split. You know we love the
Speaker 4: ten split category on this podcast. Do you guys know
Speaker 4: what Cam Wakes ten split was it was one point
Speaker 4: six 's eight, that's all. That's what was that one
Speaker 4: and a half tenths of a second difference. That's an
Speaker 4: eternity in this league. And cam Wake had one of
Speaker 4: the best get offs in the history of the National
Speaker 4: football Like. So if he can harness that and turn
Speaker 4: it into not just a track speed and put it
Speaker 4: onto a football field and a football tape, then you're
Speaker 4: in pretty good hands there. And if you go back
Speaker 4: to watch mc penn State, that's what he did. Ten
Speaker 4: foot eight broad jump is also crazy long. It's a
Speaker 4: crazy long broad jump and a four to two five
Speaker 4: short shut all of time there. I think that he
Speaker 4: has that initial Camwake level burst and sustains that burst
Speaker 4: throughout the rush. And I thought there was a couple
Speaker 4: of times in his tape where he would lose balance
Speaker 4: or just kind of not be able to absorb the
Speaker 4: contact around the edge. If you want to go see
Speaker 4: a tape where he I thought grew and got better
Speaker 4: from twenty twenty two against Ohio State and Dewan Jones,
Speaker 4: the fourth round pick of the Browns last year. Jones
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest tackles to ever be drafted
Speaker 4: and Robinson had an issue getting around that corner on him,
Speaker 4: but as you watched his time went along in the
Speaker 4: Big ten and all the big tackles he faced, not
Speaker 4: just that year, but obviously twenty twenty three as well.
Speaker 4: He kind of learned from that tape and got better
Speaker 4: and better at it. I think ultimately, when you look
Speaker 4: at him as a prospect right now, and we'll hear
Speaker 4: from Chris Career on this, that it's not a finished
Speaker 4: product in terms of getting all of those bells and
Speaker 4: whistles kind of fine tuned and getting that lightning in
Speaker 4: a bottle that he offers and refining it into this
Speaker 4: total pass rush package.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's super, super.
Speaker 4: Light on his feet, he has the lateral quickness to
Speaker 4: cross face this defense that I think we're gonna run.
Speaker 2: We'll find out what it actually looks like.
Speaker 4: But from what the Baltimore Ties are and Weavers passed
Speaker 4: in Houston, you assume you're gonna get, you know, assuming
Speaker 4: it's never a good idea in this league, but you
Speaker 4: assume you're gonna get a simulated pressure, you know, different
Speaker 4: blitz looks type of defense where you try to kind
Speaker 4: of confuse the offensive line and the protection with those
Speaker 4: blitz looks, and that creates these one on one situations,
Speaker 4: and you're gonna have guys that slant across the face
Speaker 4: and run games and guys that you know, drop into
Speaker 4: coverage when they are different, you know different like Phillips
Speaker 4: and Chubb can drop into coverage.
Speaker 2: Chop I think can do that as well.
Speaker 4: So there's the ability to run different looks with him.
Speaker 4: I think he can can condense inside and win with quickness,
Speaker 4: which another guy that can be a good option to
Speaker 4: run the wheel around Zach Sealer on those stunts and
Speaker 4: kind of loop him back into the A and B gap.
Speaker 4: He'd forced his blockers into very early declarations and that
Speaker 4: can expose those guys with really good push pull leverage
Speaker 4: and the way he plays those crossover steps. So interesting tape,
Speaker 4: interesting upside here. I'm excited to dig into the tape
Speaker 4: a little bit more and get you guys some more
Speaker 4: takes on what I saw from him. I did watch
Speaker 4: a good bit of his games, but I want to
Speaker 4: go back and watch even more of his games, not
Speaker 4: just from last year, but from twenty twenty two as well.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and.
Speaker 4: Go here to Chris Greer, who gave us two answers
Speaker 4: about two of the things, or why Chop Robinson. He'll
Speaker 4: talk about the traits, and they'll tell us about the
Speaker 4: traits that he liked in Chop Robinson. Here from his
Speaker 4: Friday evening or Saturday morning press conference following the selection
Speaker 4: of Chop Robinson out of Penn State with twenty first
Speaker 4: pick in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: He was a player that we kind of identified early
Speaker 6: that we liked in some time with him through the
Speaker 6: whole process and watching, working with the coaches and the scouts,
Speaker 6: and he was someone that we felt could impact our
Speaker 6: team and had a lot of traits we liked. But
Speaker 6: as the person and the player, well, at one part,
Speaker 6: he plays hard, you know, he plays his ass off,
Speaker 6: and that's what we like. And then obviously the athletic
Speaker 6: traits and what he has is you see the first step, quickness,
Speaker 6: the explosion, his ability to bend and do stuff. So
Speaker 6: I think, you know, he's done a lot of good
Speaker 6: things in college, and we think with our coaching staff
Speaker 6: and what we're doing in his work ethic and how
Speaker 6: it is that we think he can even take it
Speaker 6: another level. So we're very excited to ad him.
Speaker 4: Fun little bit of information that I don't think anybody
Speaker 4: out there got besides me, Seth and OJ on the
Speaker 4: radio show Live from the Draft party at Pure five, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, getting to Biscayne a bit of a
Speaker 4: pain in the ass, but once you're down there, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can see the draw to Bis Game Boulevard and
Speaker 4: how beautiful that is out there. But on the radio show,
Speaker 4: we had OJ got in touch with a Penn State
Speaker 4: coach because as you know, OJ went to Penn State
Speaker 4: and he has many connections back there, and he got
Speaker 4: on the air with I gotta find the coach's name
Speaker 4: here real quick, Terry Smith, who came on and did
Speaker 4: a whole segment and talked about Chop Robinson's love for
Speaker 4: the game and the affinity he has for football and
Speaker 4: how to get better. And you guys saw I'm sure
Speaker 4: that the draft call of Chop Robinson, We're going to Miami.
Speaker 4: He's fired up. Man, You're gonna have that want to
Speaker 4: and that love of the game, which we heard Jalen
Speaker 4: Phillips as well on the panel at the draft party.
Speaker 4: He was telling me and Seth and OJ like, we
Speaker 4: went to OTA's this last couple of weeks and we
Speaker 4: were kind of wondering how the new guys, all these
Speaker 4: changes on defense, how it might fit in, and how
Speaker 4: the program would kind of change and adapt. And he
Speaker 4: said that it all kind of has come together seamlessly
Speaker 4: in a way that he feels like the team already
Speaker 4: has that bond in camaraderie building. And I was like,
Speaker 4: is anybody even not there right now at OTA's And
Speaker 4: JP's like, I don't, I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 4: there is anybody. There might be, but for the most part,
Speaker 4: everyone's here and they're developing that bond and that continuity
Speaker 4: and that camaraderie. And that's a big part of this
Speaker 4: roster building process for the Dolphins. Man, you have to
Speaker 4: have your vision and your identity and what you want
Speaker 4: to be in place, and if it's love of the
Speaker 4: game and want to and love for your teammates, gosh,
Speaker 4: they got it with this guy. It's been a focal
Speaker 4: point in the past. I think it has developed a
Speaker 4: great group of guys in a great locker room. And
Speaker 4: that's what I'm getting here from Chop Robinson, and I
Speaker 4: think that he's gonna come back with some of that
Speaker 4: stuff there as well. Some more PFF data here for you.
Speaker 4: So I had the eighty seven pressures over the last
Speaker 4: three seasons, one year at Maryland, two at Penn State
Speaker 4: on just four hundred and ninety seven pass rush snaps.
Speaker 4: So again, about one of every five pass rush snaps.
Speaker 4: He's in the backfield getting after quarterbacks and making life
Speaker 4: hell on them. He had excuse me, he had one
Speaker 4: mistackle last year in the entire season. That's a pretty
Speaker 4: good number for a defensive end. Forced couple of fumbles,
Speaker 4: and was in coverage on four targets and actually forced
Speaker 4: two of those incomplete. So he does a little bit
Speaker 4: of everything. Had a sixty four point six passer rating against,
Speaker 4: which is a hilarious number for him. Has only four
Speaker 4: penalties in his career. You'd love to see that number
Speaker 4: as well. So some good data there on Chop Robinson.
Speaker 4: Going over to Dane Brugler's The Beast, the massive thing
Speaker 4: that he puts out every year taking a look at
Speaker 4: all these prospects. So I mentioned some of the measurements
Speaker 4: of this guy. The one five to three tenth split
Speaker 4: kind of blows my mind. But he talks about Chop
Speaker 4: with the exceptional quickness and get off with the snap
Speaker 4: upfield burst and you love the way he sustains that burst.
Speaker 4: I guess that was in my notes as well, where
Speaker 4: he can the second, third, and fourth stride. There's not
Speaker 4: like a break, It doesn't slow down, It just kind
Speaker 4: of continues and accelerates, and it allows him to dip
Speaker 4: that shoulder and corner and flatt into the quarterback. And
Speaker 4: I guess I got a lot of notes here from
Speaker 4: Dane that we saw the same thing because he talks
Speaker 4: about being nimble footed and displays the lateral quickness to
Speaker 4: cross face and get across those guys without much without
Speaker 4: much regard there the weaknesses that he displayed here. He
Speaker 4: just talked about stuff that you get from a college
Speaker 4: prospect going into the pro saying that the lean muscle
Speaker 4: by type didn't really allow for him to absorb a
Speaker 4: lot of power in his frame, and at two point
Speaker 4: fifty five, like I guess you can add to that,
Speaker 4: that's a pretty solid base to work with. But just
Speaker 4: kind of having more reps and going up against more
Speaker 4: NFL pass or rather pass blockers and run block I
Speaker 4: think can help him kind of work to hold the
Speaker 4: point and get better at having the hands inside to
Speaker 4: fight off the you know, the hand fight from the
Speaker 4: offensive line where they can kind of get inside and
Speaker 4: control you in that position. But I mean, really a
Speaker 4: Penn states so deep in that position that he only
Speaker 4: averaged about thirty snaps per game on defense last year.
Speaker 4: But I think that his ability to just kind of
Speaker 4: grow and continue to play his best football lots of
Speaker 4: tread on the tires there. That's the thinking behind this pick.
Speaker 4: Is a guy that really has tons of upside. And
Speaker 4: also I want to go ahead and play a sound
Speaker 4: by here for you guys on Chop. When Chris Greer
Speaker 4: was asked about you know, you heard him talk about
Speaker 4: the person there in Chop Robinson. Really tragic background for
Speaker 4: Chop Robinson. Which why does this seem like all these
Speaker 4: guys that get drafted have like multiple major catastrophic events
Speaker 4: in their lifetime, Like goodness, can we can we just
Speaker 4: get some of these guys through their life without having
Speaker 4: so much trauma?
Speaker 2: But Chopp lost.
Speaker 4: Two siblings as in his youth, two of his siblings
Speaker 4: passed away when he was a freshman in high school.
Speaker 2: His older brother, Arthur A.
Speaker 4: Rod Johnson passed away and that was the second because
Speaker 4: his sister passed away when he was in the first grade.
Speaker 4: That guy's inn a tremendous amount of adversity to put
Speaker 4: on a young man. Let's go ahead and hear from
Speaker 4: Chris Career on the person Chop Robinson.
Speaker 6: Getting to know him and just who he is as
Speaker 6: a person, just talking to some of the things he's
Speaker 6: been through in his life and seeing how he's come
Speaker 6: out and just listen to people just talk about his
Speaker 6: character and in terms of how he just loves football
Speaker 6: and the passion and how he plays and his work
Speaker 6: ethic and his drive. He's you know, his whole focus
Speaker 6: is football. He loves football. He wants to be great.
Speaker 6: And I think you guys saw his clip of when
Speaker 6: we talked to him on the phone. He was so excited.
Speaker 6: You know, he's ready to come play right now. And
Speaker 6: so just when you meet kids like that, and it's
Speaker 6: genuine and you understand that they truly love football and
Speaker 6: they want to be great and they know that it
Speaker 6: doesn't come easy and have to work, and so that
Speaker 6: gives him a chance to be the player that everyone
Speaker 6: he is. So again, we're very excited.
Speaker 4: I keep going back to that pass rush win rate statistics.
Speaker 4: How about this one for you guys. Forty two point
Speaker 4: seven percent of Robinson's tackles the past two years came
Speaker 4: in the backfield, so if he gets a player to
Speaker 4: the ground, it's pretty much going to be a tackle
Speaker 4: for loss or a SEC. And that idea the acceleration
Speaker 4: zero to sixteen ah blink Man creating that instant suddenness
Speaker 4: and just again shooting gaps forcing guys into quick commitments.
Speaker 4: It's a very nice combination to be able to put
Speaker 4: together and force offensive linemen into those decisions to finish off.
Speaker 4: Brugalus notes here Robinson needs to continue developing the prove
Speaker 4: he's not a one trick pony, but his first step,
Speaker 4: explosiveness and aggressive hands give him the potential to be
Speaker 4: the most dynamic pass rusher in this class. He is
Speaker 4: ideally suited as a wide nine defender who can be
Speaker 4: schemed across the front.
Speaker 2: Go figure.
Speaker 4: Speaking of that versatility, let's go ahead and hear from
Speaker 4: Chris Career once more on some of the things that
Speaker 4: attracted the Dolphins to Chop Robinson.
Speaker 3: I e.
Speaker 2: The versatility.
Speaker 6: I think it's some of the versatility we like, you know,
Speaker 6: I mean, you see it and you watch them. He
Speaker 6: rushes kind of all over inside over the center he's
Speaker 6: two point three point and so that versatility is what
Speaker 6: you know, drew us to him initially.
Speaker 4: I'll want to touch on that in a second, but
Speaker 4: real quick, go back to some audio that I wanted
Speaker 4: to play for you guys earlier in the show, and
Speaker 4: just bring it up right here. I mentioned the production
Speaker 4: versus the upside. Here's Chris Greer talking about the lack
Speaker 4: of sack production, but more about the analytics and the
Speaker 4: past rush win rate that I keep on harping about.
Speaker 2: Here's Chris Greer.
Speaker 6: Since you guys have known me over the years, we've
Speaker 6: talked about the stats and sacks part, and for us
Speaker 6: it's an important part. But we've always talked about the
Speaker 6: ability to disrupt the passer and his disruption stuff numbers
Speaker 6: are all very high, you know. So he's for us
Speaker 6: working through the analytics watching him and what he does
Speaker 6: and contributes sacks, you know, people always want to do it.
Speaker 6: The think guy that comes to mind for me would
Speaker 6: be the Neil Hunter. Had four career sacks coming out
Speaker 6: of college and he's been a really good player in
Speaker 6: this league. Not putting that pressure on him to be
Speaker 6: the Neil Hunter. But there's not just him there's other
Speaker 6: players throughout the league if you go look at what
Speaker 6: their college numbers are compared to how they've had success
Speaker 6: in the pros. And we think a lot of his
Speaker 6: traits and the things you see on film translate, so
Speaker 6: you know he has things he has to work on.
Speaker 6: He knows that, and again, the exciting part is the
Speaker 6: kid and who he is and his work ethic and
Speaker 6: how much he loves ball and his toughness. So we're
Speaker 6: excited to work with him and we think he has
Speaker 6: a chance to be really good player.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and put a little pin in that and
Speaker 4: come back on the other side of the podcast here
Speaker 4: and talk about Chop Robinson's fit in the defense where
Speaker 4: he might excel and your number one long term prognoses.
Speaker 2: All that fun stuff and more.
Speaker 4: Next in the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 4: brought to you by Auto Nation. Back here for another
Speaker 4: segment on new Dolphins edge outside linebacker Chop Robinson, the
Speaker 4: twenty first pick on the twenty twenty four NFL Draft
Speaker 4: out of Penn State, and just finishing up my notes
Speaker 4: on my Dolphins fit portion of the Chop Robinson segment
Speaker 4: of my Draft Guy that I put together for the
Speaker 4: draft party and these podcasts. Really in ernest post draft
Speaker 4: I wrote this, I said, I think he's a good
Speaker 4: bet to be a very good situational pass rusher as
Speaker 4: a rookie. I think that there's some rawness in terms
Speaker 4: of the run defense and ability to kind of hold
Speaker 4: the point off the edge right away against the run,
Speaker 4: though I do see a future for him in that regard.
Speaker 4: But I also wrote that I could see a scenario
Speaker 4: where he, Phillips, and Chubb became the most feared three
Speaker 4: sum of rushers in the NFL by as early as Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: I put a first round great on shop Robinson and
Speaker 4: think that's very true that while Shack Barrett's good to
Speaker 4: go right away from the jump and with a clean
Speaker 4: bill of health, hopefully we get good news there on
Speaker 4: JP and Bradley Chubb, and as you kind of work
Speaker 4: all those guys back in and get chopped more and
Speaker 4: more reps in the season. I think the idea is
Speaker 4: where last year you went to a playoff game with really,
Speaker 4: you know, three street free agents that passed rusher to
Speaker 4: this year hopefully hopefully get to that point, hopefully you
Speaker 4: have all four of those guys, and it's a different
Speaker 4: ballgame that are chasing Josh Allen and the speed that
Speaker 4: he offers right the ability to go, you know, four
Speaker 4: across the front and you know McDaniel and green where
Speaker 4: asked this in the press conference and they're not going
Speaker 4: to tell you the answer to this. But the idea
Speaker 4: of your NASCAR package, which you know what we've seen
Speaker 4: it in the past feature Wilkins, Chubb and Van Ginkel
Speaker 4: and Phillips. Why did I blink on JP's game there,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but just getting basically your best pass
Speaker 4: which was in the field, like you could do that
Speaker 4: technically speaking now with four or your edge guys because
Speaker 4: that might be four of your best pass rushers to
Speaker 4: ensure you have pass rush without the need to have
Speaker 4: to blitz, but also the ability to flag down a
Speaker 4: quarterback like Josh Allen. I'm tired of watching that guy
Speaker 4: run around in the backfield and make plays. A guy
Speaker 4: like this can go hunt those quarterbacks and get him
Speaker 4: to the turf opposed to all those scramble plays and
Speaker 4: the big explosives that come out of that, both the
Speaker 4: passing game and when the quarterback run game. So I
Speaker 4: like that idea and the fit of him in that regard,
Speaker 4: I think your ability to create situations where he can
Speaker 4: get one on ones because of well the players he
Speaker 4: has around him is very beneficial. But also how I
Speaker 4: think the system might look and operate with simulated pressures
Speaker 4: and trying to create situations where the quarterback doesn't know
Speaker 4: necessarily where the pressure is coming from. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: that creates an isolation and a misslide by the offensive line.
Speaker 4: And now you've got Choppe on one with a heavy
Speaker 4: footed guard or a lumbering tackle, someone that can't move
Speaker 4: as well as he can, and now he can go
Speaker 4: feast in that matchup because you created matchups for him
Speaker 4: based upon your personnel and the fit in the defense.
Speaker 4: So it's look, guys, it's a very very high upside pick.
Speaker 4: I think that of all the guys in this class,
Speaker 4: he stands to be the one that could be the
Speaker 4: best of all the edge guys. I think there's guys
Speaker 4: that probably that went ahead of them were a little
Speaker 4: bit more polished. But you don't go on the first
Speaker 4: round in this league if the NFL does not believe
Speaker 4: in that high upside. I think that's kind of what
Speaker 4: we're looking out here with Chop Robinson, and to Chris
Speaker 4: Greer's point in the press conference, he's had the teams
Speaker 4: offered to come up and come up and trade up
Speaker 4: with the Miami Dolphins, and the offers were not enticing
Speaker 4: enough to make that happen. So the Dolphins stick and
Speaker 4: picked to get one of the players they were most
Speaker 4: intrigued by in this entire draft process. Let's go ahead
Speaker 4: and pause it right there and here a little bit
Speaker 4: more on the input of Anthony Weaver talking about the
Speaker 4: fit in the defense of Chop Robinson and the input
Speaker 4: that he gave Chris Career and Mike McDaniel. But also,
Speaker 4: I didn't ask about this, this is my question. An unnamed
Speaker 4: coach came up and new outside linebackers coach Ryan Crow.
Speaker 2: Here's Chris Greer.
Speaker 4: And Mike McDaniel on the involvement of Anthony Weaver, but
Speaker 4: not just him, the entire staff on the selection of
Speaker 4: Chop Robinson.
Speaker 6: It's been very collaborative, and that's, you know, as you've
Speaker 6: always heard us talk about it. That's it's important because
Speaker 6: it's you can't just have whether it's just scouts or
Speaker 6: just coaches saying this is our guys. It's working together,
Speaker 6: working through it whether you see players the same or differently.
Speaker 6: And for us, the collaboration working through it with it,
Speaker 6: not just Weaver, but you know Ryan Crow outside linebacker
Speaker 6: coach was fantastic and the whole defensive staff and as
Speaker 6: well as scout. So we meet as individually, we meet
Speaker 6: his groups and so we spent a lot of time
Speaker 6: working through it. It's an important pick for us, and
Speaker 6: so it was cool working with even the guys and
Speaker 6: the new guys here and seeing the work ethic. And
Speaker 6: we were presented a back the other day on chop
Speaker 6: which was a fantastic that Crow put together for us.
Speaker 6: So no, it was it was very collaborative, and it
Speaker 6: was exciting and really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Really wanted to fall up and say what was in
Speaker 4: that packet, but didn't get a chance to do that.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I digress a couple more things here.
Speaker 4: So what we talked a little bit about Chubb and
Speaker 4: Phillips coming back off the injury and being part of
Speaker 4: this team and they're best friends.
Speaker 2: What time is it two fifteen?
Speaker 4: And you know, spent a lot of time with Jelean
Speaker 4: Phillips tonight on the panel with him doing radio and
Speaker 4: the panel at the draft party, and he talked to
Speaker 4: us about all kinds of good stuff and we One
Speaker 4: of the things I said to him was one of
Speaker 4: the questions of the panel was, Travis, how do you
Speaker 4: see like this board kind of favoring Miami in terms
Speaker 4: of positions you think they could go with and how
Speaker 4: the board might play out. And I was like, I
Speaker 4: like the tackles, I like the wide receivers. And I
Speaker 4: didn't really get to my third position group that I
Speaker 4: liked because I was next to Jilen Phillips, who was
Speaker 4: a pass rusher like edge defender, and they came back
Speaker 4: around me. I was like, well, to be honest, JP,
Speaker 4: I kind of liked the edge class a lot too.
Speaker 4: Is a few guys I like in that spot, and
Speaker 4: Chop is one of those guys. And JP's like, listen, man,
Speaker 4: like the more the mary, the more guys we can get,
Speaker 4: the better we can you know, get after quarterbacks. And
Speaker 4: you just kind of get the sense that there is
Speaker 4: an embracing mindset there among those guys in that room
Speaker 4: to bring in a player like Chopp, who's going to
Speaker 4: be hungry, who's gonna, you know, want to you know,
Speaker 4: battle his butt off to get reps and to earn
Speaker 4: his worth among his teammates. And that's the kind of
Speaker 4: guy that I think both Chubb and Phillips and Shack Bart.
Speaker 4: You guys met Shaq in a podcast like my goodness,
Speaker 4: what a what a great soul that man is, and
Speaker 4: just a great person in general. I think that that's
Speaker 4: a perfect fit for him to come in and get
Speaker 4: all that veteran experience, get some arms put around him,
Speaker 4: and Ryan Crow as well, who apparently is very well
Speaker 4: thought out in the building already from jump here, so
Speaker 4: I think it's a good fit there. Let's go ahead
Speaker 4: and hear Chris Career, who was asked about the idea
Speaker 4: of Chubb and Phillips being possibly down to start the
Speaker 4: year and how important it was to go get a
Speaker 4: player at that position.
Speaker 6: Now, I mean, obviously you always look at your roster
Speaker 6: for what it is, but for us, it was, like
Speaker 6: we've talked about, it's just adding the best players after
Speaker 6: that point. So for us, he was rated as one
Speaker 6: of the top players in this draft for us, so
Speaker 6: adding to him, especially rushing the passer in this league
Speaker 6: with all the quarterbacks, the great quarterbacks, and the skill
Speaker 6: I mean, the ability to rush with four and not
Speaker 6: have to blitz every down and stuff. You know, that
Speaker 6: creates an advantage for the defense. So for us, he
Speaker 6: was a player that we had high in high regard,
Speaker 6: with high grades, and so for us that at him,
Speaker 6: we were again very excited to have them.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and close up this segment with three
Speaker 4: soundbites here from your new edge rusher, your new outside
Speaker 4: lineberg I got started calling him outside linebacker, Chop Robinson.
Speaker 4: The first one here, he was asked about it point
Speaker 4: blank on his press conference about the sack production and
Speaker 4: why do you think it was not where your pass
Speaker 4: rush production was in terms of disrupting the quarterback. Here's
Speaker 4: Chop on why the sack production was not super high
Speaker 4: for him at Penn State.
Speaker 5: For me, it was just being inconsistent with my hands. No,
Speaker 5: I know I had this speed in the bind, but
Speaker 5: sometimes I forget to use my hands. But that's something
Speaker 5: I've been working on this whole all season. And I
Speaker 5: feel very confident because I've been working on this so
Speaker 5: much repeatedly, and I know it's going to be natural
Speaker 5: when it comes to time to put my hand in use.
Speaker 4: You can tell by these three angels, I'm going to
Speaker 4: play for you guys. He has the right mindset. Next
Speaker 4: one here, he was asked about the city of Miami
Speaker 4: and how excited you are to join the Dolphins once again,
Speaker 4: Here's Chop.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know a lot of guys know on
Speaker 5: the team in Miami. Of course, everybody wants to win.
Speaker 5: Everybody's chasing greatness, and that's what I want to change.
Speaker 5: So I feel like it's a it's a great fit
Speaker 5: for me. I know it's beautiful weather in Miami. I
Speaker 5: don't know much about the city because I've never never
Speaker 5: been that way, but I know I have a great
Speaker 5: time there, just enjoying with my teammates and being part
Speaker 5: of the team.
Speaker 4: And finishing up here with the question you have to
Speaker 4: ask every prospect, what was this process like for you?
Speaker 2: All of the hard work.
Speaker 4: The entire journey at Cold Knight's here as you get
Speaker 4: drafted finally the first round, a dream come true. But
Speaker 4: as Chop will tell you, that ain't the end of
Speaker 4: the story.
Speaker 5: Honestly, it means everything you know. I've been I've been
Speaker 5: playing for both since five years old. Five years old,
Speaker 5: so sacrifice and everything not far the being who I
Speaker 5: am working out every day, being perticient with fancy to myself,
Speaker 5: and I did a lot of the sacrificers being away
Speaker 5: from my family, also losing my oldest brother and my
Speaker 5: oldest sire. My motivation to you know, stay focus and
Speaker 5: just keep blinding, so I never I never stopping him.
Speaker 5: I'm finally you know where I wanted to be.
Speaker 4: But let's go ahead and take our last break right there.
Speaker 4: Come back on the other side, we'll hear one more
Speaker 4: SoundBite from Chris Greer Mike McDaniel's press conference. Will go
Speaker 4: ahead and take a look at how the board played
Speaker 4: out on day one and what might come on day two.
Speaker 2: All of that.
Speaker 4: Next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 4: you by Auto Nation. Before we conclude the podcast, taking
Speaker 4: a look ahead at tomorrow or today, I guess Timmy
Speaker 4: uh Guess podcast coming out early Friday morning. I want
Speaker 4: to go ahead and play one last sound bye here
Speaker 4: from Chris. Were talking about the surprise of the first round,
Speaker 4: all those quarterbacks going early. Was it a surprise to
Speaker 4: you and did you have any offers to trade back?
Speaker 4: All kinds of stuff here from Chris Queer. Let's go
Speaker 4: ahead and roll that audio for us.
Speaker 6: It wasn't really surprised. The phone calls all at that
Speaker 6: point were really coming into us about people trying to
Speaker 6: move up to our spot. So it was it was
Speaker 6: relatively quietly at about four or five teams. We're trying
Speaker 6: to move into our spot. And as the board kept
Speaker 6: falling to us, which it thought, it was, like you said,
Speaker 6: it kind of fell to where we had it at
Speaker 6: that point, we decided to stay where we were because
Speaker 6: the offers weren't enticing enough for us to move.
Speaker 4: Always such a fascinating so you can see how the
Speaker 4: whole thing plays out and how teams call up and
Speaker 4: call down. I thought there was going to be a
Speaker 4: lot more trades in this first round. It just didn't
Speaker 4: really ever happen. I mean, the Jets moved back one
Speaker 4: spot with the Vikings, the Vikings get their quarterback, the
Speaker 4: Jags move back a few spots there with the Vikings
Speaker 4: again later in the draft, as the Vikings go up
Speaker 4: for both g Jim McCarthy and Dallas turn on the
Speaker 4: top edge of the third defender, the second edge the
Speaker 4: third defender taken on the entire night. We get another
Speaker 4: trade later on and Buffalo moves back twice in the
Speaker 4: first round as well. But the way this whole thing
Speaker 4: played out, I thought we're going to see a lot
Speaker 4: more activity at the top. The Chargers taking Joe Alton
Speaker 4: that spot over receiver was a surprise to me in
Speaker 4: terms of the need for Herbert to get more weapons,
Speaker 4: because right now the receiving corps there is it's just
Speaker 4: not looking great. I thought that maybe they would go
Speaker 4: receiver there. But then again, Jim Harbaugh on offensive line
Speaker 4: seems to make a lot of sense there too, So
Speaker 4: that was kind of a surprise, but not a surprise,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense. J C. Latham going next there
Speaker 4: off the offensive line makes a lot of sense. Michael
Speaker 4: Pennock's the big surprise of the night there. The Falcons
Speaker 4: just gave Kirk Cousins a three year contract fully guaranteed,
Speaker 4: so if Penics doesn't see the field over those three years,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't play until he's twenty seven years old. So
Speaker 4: I like the player, like the prospect. Very interesting to
Speaker 4: approach there. For the Falcons of the quarterback position, they're
Speaker 4: apparently tired of not having quarterback players. Now. They have
Speaker 4: a top eight pick in the draft and one of
Speaker 4: the top twelve or thirteen quarterbacks in the league there
Speaker 4: in Kirk Cousins a Doonese to the Bears there with
Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams. Love those that pairing there for Chicago. Finally
Speaker 4: some explosiveness, some exciting offense in Chicago and a team
Speaker 4: that's on primetime five times a year.
Speaker 2: You'd love to see that.
Speaker 4: McCarthy to the Vikings there mentioned Drake May going to
Speaker 4: the Patriots pick number three. He joins the AFC East
Speaker 4: now so excited to see how he develops there with
Speaker 4: the Patriots, and I hope it doesn't work out for him,
Speaker 4: but it's fun to watch in a fun story line
Speaker 4: for the division. Then you kind of get it run
Speaker 4: on the offensive tackles and I guess some of the
Speaker 4: defensive linemen there. That's why I kept talking about the
Speaker 4: draft part there with Mike Kunyo, who kept asking me
Speaker 4: what I think the board's gonna look like.
Speaker 2: A picked twenty one.
Speaker 4: I kept saying, well, a lot two is still there,
Speaker 4: if Wuaga is still there, Fatano's still there, Murphy Dallas Turner,
Speaker 4: like all these guys, I like verse, they're all still
Speaker 4: on the board. And then they won by one started
Speaker 4: getting picked off LA two fifteen Murphy sixteen, Turner seventeen,
Speaker 4: Mims eighteen, and when Mims went off the board, like, okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a great shot at getting one of
Speaker 4: the guys that I love in this process. And the
Speaker 4: two guys that I had kind of pended as my
Speaker 4: top two, you know, guys in that position were Fatano
Speaker 4: and Verse, And sure enough they go nineteen and twenty
Speaker 4: to la and to Pittsburgh and then you get you know,
Speaker 4: all the cornerbacks are on the board for you. At
Speaker 4: that point, I thought that might be an enticing trade
Speaker 4: down spot there for Miami. But you heard Chris Brerier
Speaker 4: say there were some offers not enticing enough to move
Speaker 4: off that spot, especially when the player they coveted was
Speaker 4: there at twenty one in Chop Robins. So so then
Speaker 4: Quinny and Mitchell goes next, Brian Thomas goes off at
Speaker 4: twenty three. The next cornerback goes off, Jordan Morgan at
Speaker 4: twenty five to Green Bay. I did a radio hit
Speaker 4: on the way back to the facility from the draft
Speaker 4: party with Seth and oj I said, keeping on Morgan
Speaker 4: tomorrow from Arizona wrong he went twenty fifth. I also
Speaker 4: mentioned Xavier laguet wrong. He goes thirty seconds to the
Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers who came up with Buffalo, who traded back twice,
Speaker 4: and the Chiefs got the guy that a lot of
Speaker 4: folks are talking about on Twitter. And Xavier Worthy as
Speaker 4: he goes to Kansas City and a trade up with Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Interesting that the Buffalo would give Casey the guy they want.
Speaker 4: I mean, usually you don't trade with the division opponents
Speaker 4: or rivals that have been beating you. And they do
Speaker 4: that and they go get their guy. Now they have
Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy, a fun, fun pairing. They're
Speaker 4: Tyler Guidon, Nate Wiggins, Ricky Piersow. Next they really get
Speaker 4: close at the night. So tomorrow it's gonna be Buffalo,
Speaker 4: New England to kick us off and a bunch of
Speaker 4: NFC teams and the Dolphins will pick fifty fifth and
Speaker 4: just taking a look at the big board here and
Speaker 4: what's available, Like these guys are going to fly off
Speaker 4: the board so fast, but like Cooper de Jeans still
Speaker 4: out there. I thought he was a first round pick.
Speaker 4: Jures On Newton, I thought he was a first round pick.
Speaker 4: Kool Aid mckinstrey as well. And then you get into
Speaker 4: the Laddin. McConkie's a bunch of receivers are going to
Speaker 4: go off the board or tomorrow. I feel like with McConkie,
Speaker 4: with Keon Coleman in there, excuse me, with Kai Corley
Speaker 4: in there, with Roman Wilson in there, it's just going
Speaker 4: to be a pretty good run on those guys. I
Speaker 4: think offensive lineman that you're looking at in this position.
Speaker 4: Look all the interior guys except Graham Barton. He goes
Speaker 4: off the board in the first round, but Jackson powers
Speaker 4: Johnson as an option there. Christian Haynes is a guy
Speaker 4: that I like out of Yukon, a whole heck of
Speaker 4: a lot on the offensive line that I think can
Speaker 4: plug and play right away for you at the guard spot.
Speaker 4: Zach Fraser from West Virginia, guy I like a heck
Speaker 4: of a lot, is still on the board out there.
Speaker 4: So plenty of options for the Dolphins with where they
Speaker 4: want to go here. If you want to go defensive tackle.
Speaker 4: Chris Jenkins a South I mentioned Giant Newton, A couple
Speaker 4: of the big the big DT's still on the board
Speaker 4: as we head into day number two. Yeah, so with
Speaker 4: Receiams I left off there, Jalen Polk and Jayleen McMillan
Speaker 4: bull from you Dub.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a loaded group guys to talk about.
Speaker 4: Jermaine Burton and Javon Baker from UCF and Alabama respectively.
Speaker 4: If you want to go safety, Jaden Hicks from Washington
Speaker 4: State should be on should be around there hopefully at
Speaker 4: that time. So definitely a good board to choose from tomorrow.
Speaker 4: I think you look at kind of how it stacks up.
Speaker 4: Receiver probably has the best chance to give you a
Speaker 4: couple of good players at the at pick at fifty
Speaker 4: five on the board, I think Intier, your offensive line
Speaker 4: is gonna offer that with JPJ, with Christian Haynes and
Speaker 4: Zach Fraser. A big fan of all three of those guys.
Speaker 4: Mike Sandmer still is a slot cornerback that I thought
Speaker 4: would go a lot earlier in the first round. He's
Speaker 4: still on the board out there, so plenty of options
Speaker 4: to improve your football team. Cooper, bb Dominic Puney, all
Speaker 4: kinds of guys on the offensive line and receiver.
Speaker 2: It continues to be the deepest groups in this entire class.
Speaker 4: I think that because of that, at pick fifty five,
Speaker 4: you should have a good pick of either of those
Speaker 4: two spots should you so desire, but also other spots
Speaker 4: too that we talked about here.
Speaker 2: So plenty to look forward to.
Speaker 4: Here on the podcast, we'll cover the second round pick
Speaker 4: tomorrow we'll see about getting chopping the podcast. Not sure
Speaker 4: if that will or will not happen, but I'll keep
Speaker 4: you guys informed whether or not that does or not.
Speaker 4: We'll have Mike and Chris again on Friday, and yeah,
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