WEBVTT - Drive Time: The Chop Robinson Episode 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 To on the move, Golin Deep Speedways, Peas do he 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:09.400 pasd From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:10.400 Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:27.240 He's got my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.360 What is up golf fans and welcome to the Draft 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.239 Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:37.479 today's show, we have a new player, a rookie, a 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.520 first round draft pick for the first time since twenty 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.440 twenty one. The last guy we took in this spot 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.879 was also an edge rusher and Jalen Phillips. We now 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.480 have Chop Robinson from Penn State at twenty first pick 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.640 in the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. Will break down 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.559 his game. We'll go ahead and take a look at 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.680 how he might fit in this defense. We'll hear from 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.280 Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer. Go ahead and do my 0:00:57.360 --> 0:00:59.840 evaluation on Chop Robinson. Take a look at how the 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:01.880 bard laid out for the first round for Miami and 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.120 some Day two options. All of that and more from 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.280 the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:07.920 This is. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:10.319 The Draft Time Podcast. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.839 That's another Miami's office. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.759 Might be asking yourself, Travis, is his name actually Chop? Well, 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.800 that was not his given name. It was Damian Chop Robinson. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:22.959 The reason he was named Chop was because he was 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.640 fourteen pounds when he was born, earned the nickname pork 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.959 Chop and that was later shortened to Chop when he 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.000 started to slim down in middle school. Per Dane Briggler's 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.600 The Athletics, So this is a pass rusher out of 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.759 Penn State who gets after quarterbacks, gets in the backfield, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:39.600 and there's a bunch of data the back set up 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.920 for Chop Robinson. Let's go ahead and first take a 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.920 look at that data. With a twenty point eight percent 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.360 pass rush win rate last season, he was top ten 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.800 in all of college football. It reminds me of a 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.440 press conference with Chris Career back in twenty twenty two 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.800 when a question was posed to him, what do you 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.840 think about Bradley Chubb's impact since being acquired at the 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.760 trade deadline and in the fact that he only has 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.960 a couple of sacks right now, And Chris Greer essentially 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.360 told us, well, the analytics that we operate by tell 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.120 us that Bradley Chubb has been an effective pass rusher, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.880 and I will argue until I'm blue in the face 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.640 that getting after quarterbacks and disrupting the timing of the 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.680 passing game, changing their launch point, changing how they see 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.519 the field is the most important thing age rusher or 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.440 anyone the pressures the quarterback can do. And I always 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.200 bring this up to that I believe that Jason Taylor's 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.280 best game as a Dolphin was a game they only 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.560 had one sack in back in two thousand and two 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.840 against the Denver Broncos because he was in Brian Greasie's 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.040 face all night, forced to pick off of a big 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.560 hit he on the quarterback, and was just present in 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.120 the backfield all night long. I think it's very important 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.680 for a pass rusher to just be in the backfield, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.160 change the quarterbacks the trajectory of where their drop is, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.000 and just basically make them feel your presence the entire game. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.320 That's been number one thing when I look at players 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.360 at that position, and you go back to the data 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.880 here from Pro Football Focus and the pressure numbers, the 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.400 pass rush win rate, as we referenced earlier, I mean 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.480 twenty six pressures last year, forty eight pressures the year before, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.280 consistently on quarterbacks and harassing them. And that's what a 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.760 pretty limited rush count to one forty eight last season 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.200 two sixty seven, two years ago. So every fifth rush 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.400 he's putting a pressure on the quarterback and disrupting those 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.920 guys that way. The stop numbers are not gotty. We'll 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.480 talk about that in the run defense here in just 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:19.000 a second. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.000 But I look at his. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.040 Tape and I see you guys are not gonna want 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.000 to hear the comparison. But the burst out of the 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.520 stance and Chris Greer references in this press conference, it's 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.359 Cam Wake level explosive. I know you guys remember him 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.679 in the nine technique, that wide rush position. All four 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.480 fingers are all four points in the dirt and a 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.480 four point stance and just getting past the right tackle 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.560 on sheer speed alone, that's CHOP's get off man. I 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 put down his numbers here six zero two seven, So 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.800 I'm a little under six three sixty two or three 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.120 quarters two hundred and fifty five pounds of four to 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.480 four to eight forty at that position is absurd. A 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.960 one five three ten split. You know we love the 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.600 ten split category on this podcast. Do you guys know 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.920 what Cam Wakes ten split was it was one point 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.760 six 's eight, that's all. That's what was that one 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.280 and a half tenths of a second difference. That's an 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.320 eternity in this league. And cam Wake had one of 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.880 the best get offs in the history of the National 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:13.800 football Like. So if he can harness that and turn 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.159 it into not just a track speed and put it 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.520 onto a football field and a football tape, then you're 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.040 in pretty good hands there. And if you go back 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.360 to watch mc penn State, that's what he did. Ten 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.159 foot eight broad jump is also crazy long. It's a 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.440 crazy long broad jump and a four to two five 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.640 short shut all of time there. I think that he 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.080 has that initial Camwake level burst and sustains that burst 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.320 throughout the rush. And I thought there was a couple 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.320 of times in his tape where he would lose balance 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.279 or just kind of not be able to absorb the 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.560 contact around the edge. If you want to go see 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.760 a tape where he I thought grew and got better 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.039 from twenty twenty two against Ohio State and Dewan Jones, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.960 the fourth round pick of the Browns last year. Jones 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.360 is one of the biggest tackles to ever be drafted 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.080 and Robinson had an issue getting around that corner on him, 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:56.919 but as you watched his time went along in the 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.840 Big ten and all the big tackles he faced, not 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.120 just that year, but obviously twenty twenty three as well. 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.560 He kind of learned from that tape and got better 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.000 and better at it. I think ultimately, when you look 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.040 at him as a prospect right now, and we'll hear 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.719 from Chris Career on this, that it's not a finished 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.000 product in terms of getting all of those bells and 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.040 whistles kind of fine tuned and getting that lightning in 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.680 a bottle that he offers and refining it into this 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.320 total pass rush package. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.640 I mean, he's super, super. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.640 Light on his feet, he has the lateral quickness to 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.640 cross face this defense that I think we're gonna run. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.039 We'll find out what it actually looks like. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.919 But from what the Baltimore Ties are and Weavers passed 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.919 in Houston, you assume you're gonna get, you know, assuming 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.560 it's never a good idea in this league, but you 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.359 assume you're gonna get a simulated pressure, you know, different 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.000 blitz looks type of defense where you try to kind 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.000 of confuse the offensive line and the protection with those 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.760 blitz looks, and that creates these one on one situations, 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.080 and you're gonna have guys that slant across the face 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.720 and run games and guys that you know, drop into 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.160 coverage when they are different, you know different like Phillips 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:58.320 and Chubb can drop into coverage. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.719 Chop I think can do that as well. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.760 So there's the ability to run different looks with him. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.240 I think he can can condense inside and win with quickness, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.640 which another guy that can be a good option to 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.400 run the wheel around Zach Sealer on those stunts and 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.239 kind of loop him back into the A and B gap. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.280 He'd forced his blockers into very early declarations and that 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.080 can expose those guys with really good push pull leverage 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.400 and the way he plays those crossover steps. So interesting tape, 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.880 interesting upside here. I'm excited to dig into the tape 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.200 a little bit more and get you guys some more 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.680 takes on what I saw from him. I did watch 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.040 a good bit of his games, but I want to 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.520 go back and watch even more of his games, not 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.000 just from last year, but from twenty twenty two as well. 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:37.840 Let's go ahead and. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.600 Go here to Chris Greer, who gave us two answers 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.720 about two of the things, or why Chop Robinson. He'll 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:45.320 talk about the traits, and they'll tell us about the 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.560 traits that he liked in Chop Robinson. Here from his 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.120 Friday evening or Saturday morning press conference following the selection 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.720 of Chop Robinson out of Penn State with twenty first 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:54.719 pick in twenty twenty four. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.279 He was a player that we kind of identified early 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.400 that we liked in some time with him through the 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:05.240 whole process and watching, working with the coaches and the scouts, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.960 and he was someone that we felt could impact our 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.080 team and had a lot of traits we liked. But 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.320 as the person and the player, well, at one part, 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.520 he plays hard, you know, he plays his ass off, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.520 and that's what we like. And then obviously the athletic 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.840 traits and what he has is you see the first step, quickness, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:27.160 the explosion, his ability to bend and do stuff. So 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.040 I think, you know, he's done a lot of good 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.200 things in college, and we think with our coaching staff 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.320 and what we're doing in his work ethic and how 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.840 it is that we think he can even take it 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.200 another level. So we're very excited to ad him. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.960 Fun little bit of information that I don't think anybody 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.840 out there got besides me, Seth and OJ on the 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.520 radio show Live from the Draft party at Pure five, which, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.040 by the way, getting to Biscayne a bit of a 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.280 pain in the ass, but once you're down there, yeah, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.400 I can see the draw to Bis Game Boulevard and 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.800 how beautiful that is out there. But on the radio show, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.760 we had OJ got in touch with a Penn State 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.960 coach because as you know, OJ went to Penn State 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.280 and he has many connections back there, and he got 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.680 on the air with I gotta find the coach's name 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.240 here real quick, Terry Smith, who came on and did 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.960 a whole segment and talked about Chop Robinson's love for 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.200 the game and the affinity he has for football and 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:13.800 how to get better. And you guys saw I'm sure 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.040 that the draft call of Chop Robinson, We're going to Miami. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.960 He's fired up. Man, You're gonna have that want to 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.400 and that love of the game, which we heard Jalen 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.920 Phillips as well on the panel at the draft party. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.600 He was telling me and Seth and OJ like, we 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.120 went to OTA's this last couple of weeks and we 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:30.840 were kind of wondering how the new guys, all these 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.560 changes on defense, how it might fit in, and how 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.640 the program would kind of change and adapt. And he 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:36.960 said that it all kind of has come together seamlessly 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.120 in a way that he feels like the team already 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.680 has that bond in camaraderie building. And I was like, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.160 is anybody even not there right now at OTA's And 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.280 JP's like, I don't, I don't know. I don't think 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.520 there is anybody. There might be, but for the most part, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.360 everyone's here and they're developing that bond and that continuity 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.400 and that camaraderie. And that's a big part of this 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.720 roster building process for the Dolphins. Man, you have to 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.240 have your vision and your identity and what you want 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.280 to be in place, and if it's love of the 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.240 game and want to and love for your teammates, gosh, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.120 they got it with this guy. It's been a focal 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.120 point in the past. I think it has developed a 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.600 great group of guys in a great locker room. And 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.599 that's what I'm getting here from Chop Robinson, and I 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.200 think that he's gonna come back with some of that 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.600 stuff there as well. Some more PFF data here for you. 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.960 So I had the eighty seven pressures over the last 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.160 three seasons, one year at Maryland, two at Penn State 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.760 on just four hundred and ninety seven pass rush snaps. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.520 So again, about one of every five pass rush snaps. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.560 He's in the backfield getting after quarterbacks and making life 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.600 hell on them. He had excuse me, he had one 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.000 mistackle last year in the entire season. That's a pretty 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.640 good number for a defensive end. Forced couple of fumbles, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.920 and was in coverage on four targets and actually forced 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.640 two of those incomplete. So he does a little bit 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.760 of everything. Had a sixty four point six passer rating against, 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.400 which is a hilarious number for him. Has only four 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.200 penalties in his career. You'd love to see that number 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.960 as well. So some good data there on Chop Robinson. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.880 Going over to Dane Brugler's The Beast, the massive thing 0:09:57.880 --> 0:09:59.679 that he puts out every year taking a look at 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.280 all these prospects. So I mentioned some of the measurements 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.000 of this guy. The one five to three tenth split 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.920 kind of blows my mind. But he talks about Chop 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.400 with the exceptional quickness and get off with the snap 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.800 upfield burst and you love the way he sustains that burst. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:15.600 I guess that was in my notes as well, where 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.000 he can the second, third, and fourth stride. There's not 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.120 like a break, It doesn't slow down, It just kind 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.760 of continues and accelerates, and it allows him to dip 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.560 that shoulder and corner and flatt into the quarterback. And 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.800 I guess I got a lot of notes here from 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.560 Dane that we saw the same thing because he talks 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.400 about being nimble footed and displays the lateral quickness to 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.680 cross face and get across those guys without much without 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.760 much regard there the weaknesses that he displayed here. He 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.320 just talked about stuff that you get from a college 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.240 prospect going into the pro saying that the lean muscle 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.560 by type didn't really allow for him to absorb a 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.679 lot of power in his frame, and at two point 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.360 fifty five, like I guess you can add to that, 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.240 that's a pretty solid base to work with. But just 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.679 kind of having more reps and going up against more 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.600 NFL pass or rather pass blockers and run block I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.600 think can help him kind of work to hold the 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:05.200 point and get better at having the hands inside to 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.040 fight off the you know, the hand fight from the 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.720 offensive line where they can kind of get inside and 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.640 control you in that position. But I mean, really a 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.160 Penn states so deep in that position that he only 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.880 averaged about thirty snaps per game on defense last year. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.800 But I think that his ability to just kind of 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.040 grow and continue to play his best football lots of 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.720 tread on the tires there. That's the thinking behind this pick. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.120 Is a guy that really has tons of upside. And 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:29.120 also I want to go ahead and play a sound 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.320 by here for you guys on Chop. When Chris Greer 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.440 was asked about you know, you heard him talk about 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:38.040 the person there in Chop Robinson. Really tragic background for 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.520 Chop Robinson. Which why does this seem like all these 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.439 guys that get drafted have like multiple major catastrophic events 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.680 in their lifetime, Like goodness, can we can we just 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.439 get some of these guys through their life without having 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:49.200 so much trauma? 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.559 But Chopp lost. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.720 Two siblings as in his youth, two of his siblings 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.680 passed away when he was a freshman in high school. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:58.880 His older brother, Arthur A. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.000 Rod Johnson passed away and that was the second because 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.320 his sister passed away when he was in the first grade. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:08.280 That guy's inn a tremendous amount of adversity to put 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.000 on a young man. Let's go ahead and hear from 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.000 Chris Career on the person Chop Robinson. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.400 Getting to know him and just who he is as 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.920 a person, just talking to some of the things he's 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.959 been through in his life and seeing how he's come 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.240 out and just listen to people just talk about his 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:27.320 character and in terms of how he just loves football 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.560 and the passion and how he plays and his work 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.600 ethic and his drive. He's you know, his whole focus 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.280 is football. He loves football. He wants to be great. 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.319 And I think you guys saw his clip of when 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.200 we talked to him on the phone. He was so excited. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.439 You know, he's ready to come play right now. And 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.880 so just when you meet kids like that, and it's 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.719 genuine and you understand that they truly love football and 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.240 they want to be great and they know that it 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.400 doesn't come easy and have to work, and so that 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.880 gives him a chance to be the player that everyone 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.120 he is. So again, we're very excited. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.000 I keep going back to that pass rush win rate statistics. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.120 How about this one for you guys. Forty two point 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.559 seven percent of Robinson's tackles the past two years came 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.559 in the backfield, so if he gets a player to 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.760 the ground, it's pretty much going to be a tackle 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.400 for loss or a SEC. And that idea the acceleration 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.120 zero to sixteen ah blink Man creating that instant suddenness 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.560 and just again shooting gaps forcing guys into quick commitments. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.679 It's a very nice combination to be able to put 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.120 together and force offensive linemen into those decisions to finish off. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.480 Brugalus notes here Robinson needs to continue developing the prove 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.440 he's not a one trick pony, but his first step, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.000 explosiveness and aggressive hands give him the potential to be 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.520 the most dynamic pass rusher in this class. He is 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.760 ideally suited as a wide nine defender who can be 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.760 schemed across the front. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:44.280 Go figure. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.360 Speaking of that versatility, let's go ahead and hear from 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.320 Chris Career once more on some of the things that 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.520 attracted the Dolphins to Chop Robinson. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.280 I e. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:52.200 The versatility. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.040 I think it's some of the versatility we like, you know, 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.200 I mean, you see it and you watch them. He 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.360 rushes kind of all over inside over the center he's 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.440 two point three point and so that versatility is what 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.800 you know, drew us to him initially. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:09.680 I'll want to touch on that in a second, but 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.760 real quick, go back to some audio that I wanted 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.320 to play for you guys earlier in the show, and 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.480 just bring it up right here. I mentioned the production 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.400 versus the upside. Here's Chris Greer talking about the lack 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.800 of sack production, but more about the analytics and the 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:22.960 past rush win rate that I keep on harping about. 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:23.760 Here's Chris Greer. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.080 Since you guys have known me over the years, we've 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.080 talked about the stats and sacks part, and for us 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.400 it's an important part. But we've always talked about the 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.680 ability to disrupt the passer and his disruption stuff numbers 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.120 are all very high, you know. So he's for us 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.720 working through the analytics watching him and what he does 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.080 and contributes sacks, you know, people always want to do it. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.760 The think guy that comes to mind for me would 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.280 be the Neil Hunter. Had four career sacks coming out 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.200 of college and he's been a really good player in 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.000 this league. Not putting that pressure on him to be 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.960 the Neil Hunter. But there's not just him there's other 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.040 players throughout the league if you go look at what 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.800 their college numbers are compared to how they've had success 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.280 in the pros. And we think a lot of his 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.040 traits and the things you see on film translate, so 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.840 you know he has things he has to work on. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.680 He knows that, and again, the exciting part is the 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.560 kid and who he is and his work ethic and 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.880 how much he loves ball and his toughness. So we're 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.120 excited to work with him and we think he has 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:26.360 a chance to be really good player. 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.320 Go ahead and put a little pin in that and 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.040 come back on the other side of the podcast here 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.600 and talk about Chop Robinson's fit in the defense where 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.680 he might excel and your number one long term prognoses. 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.400 All that fun stuff and more. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.040 Next in the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:47.720 brought to you by Auto Nation. Back here for another 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.840 segment on new Dolphins edge outside linebacker Chop Robinson, the 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.920 twenty first pick on the twenty twenty four NFL Draft 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.360 out of Penn State, and just finishing up my notes 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.760 on my Dolphins fit portion of the Chop Robinson segment 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.640 of my Draft Guy that I put together for the 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:06.000 draft party and these podcasts. Really in ernest post draft 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.960 I wrote this, I said, I think he's a good 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.680 bet to be a very good situational pass rusher as 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.200 a rookie. I think that there's some rawness in terms 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.880 of the run defense and ability to kind of hold 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.360 the point off the edge right away against the run, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.120 though I do see a future for him in that regard. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.280 But I also wrote that I could see a scenario 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.880 where he, Phillips, and Chubb became the most feared three 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.920 sum of rushers in the NFL by as early as Thanksgiving. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.080 I put a first round great on shop Robinson and 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.920 think that's very true that while Shack Barrett's good to 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:35.840 go right away from the jump and with a clean 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:37.840 bill of health, hopefully we get good news there on 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.080 JP and Bradley Chubb, and as you kind of work 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:42.080 all those guys back in and get chopped more and 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.480 more reps in the season. I think the idea is 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.720 where last year you went to a playoff game with really, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.600 you know, three street free agents that passed rusher to 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.320 this year hopefully hopefully get to that point, hopefully you 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.200 have all four of those guys, and it's a different 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.840 ballgame that are chasing Josh Allen and the speed that 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.560 he offers right the ability to go, you know, four 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.480 across the front and you know McDaniel and green where 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.199 asked this in the press conference and they're not going 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.120 to tell you the answer to this. But the idea 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.800 of your NASCAR package, which you know what we've seen 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:13.640 it in the past feature Wilkins, Chubb and Van Ginkel 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.280 and Phillips. Why did I blink on JP's game there, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.680 I don't know, but just getting basically your best pass 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.359 which was in the field, like you could do that 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.000 technically speaking now with four or your edge guys because 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.080