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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Floria.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 6: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 7: Big job there, Cooktufia Crackers.

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Speaker 8: Turn out.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Floria.

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Speaker 6: Oh good day to you, What a day?

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Speaker 8: What a day?

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Speaker 6: Already behind the scenes, Wednesday, June twelfth, twenty nineteen. It's

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Speaker 6: episode two oh four of the Anakin Fourian Podcast, Take two,

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Speaker 6: Take three. On episode two oh four, we were all

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Speaker 6: in our places on Sunday. We're actually trying to push

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Speaker 6: out the show early and not late. And there was

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Speaker 6: a sound card issue. I don't know what the fuck

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Speaker 6: that means, but we couldn't take the show on Sunday,

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Speaker 6: so we appreciate your patience. Here we are three days later.

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow did a Hero's dose of jiu jitsu over

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Speaker 6: the weekend. What is the frequency? Kenneth?

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Speaker 5: That was?

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Speaker 7: That was an amazing intro, My friend, dude, I mean, listen,

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Speaker 7: there's so much to talk about. I've been itching to

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Speaker 7: do this podcast. Finally we get a chance to talk

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Speaker 7: about what happened this weekend. So do you ever take

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Speaker 7: a day off from Brazilian jiu jitsu?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: Like here? A lot of fighters now and I know

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Speaker 6: I asked a question and now I'm talking through what

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Speaker 6: would be your answer? But a lot of fighters now

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Speaker 6: will say, like Eddie Winlan, I'll take a day off

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Speaker 6: now in training. And then there are other fighters who

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Speaker 6: still to this day can't bring themselves to not at

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Speaker 6: least run five miles? Do you take like a day

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Speaker 7: When I try, when I try to take what listen,

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Speaker 7: When I try to go to jiu jitsu and just

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Speaker 8: Wife gives me the eye roll.

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Speaker 7: And then that's when I'm like, so, I guess you

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Speaker 7: then she's like, it's up to you. I mean, whatever

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Speaker 7: I guess I'm staying home. So I'll do, you know,

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Speaker 8: So it's a problem.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I can't quite get there in terms of

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Speaker 6: the obsession with that gentle heart. But well, again, tell

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Speaker 6: Clark herro auto biography should be called Gee or me.

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Speaker 8: You know, you decide that's amazing.

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Speaker 6: See why now that I'm forty do I make the

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Speaker 6: That's a dad joke, you know, and I love to

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Speaker 6: make these when I was thirty down four I love Okay,

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Speaker 6: all right, So we're gonna recap UFC two thirty eight.

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Speaker 6: Ray Long still celebrating. He's coming up here in about

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Speaker 6: five minutes also on the back end, time permitting, depending

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Speaker 6: will talk about that rumored strawweight title fight between Jessica

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Speaker 6: andraj and Wayley Jong and just to at least give

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Speaker 6: And I really can get behind this matchup and why

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Speaker 6: I think they put it together more reasons than one.

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Speaker 6: But let's begin with with triple C. Henry Shudo now

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Speaker 6: simultaneously the UFC flyweight and UFC Bantamweight champion. Forget the

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Speaker 6: Olympic gold medal, for now Kenny. In terms of adding

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Speaker 6: For me, of all these simultaneous double champions, this is

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Speaker 8: I would say that that's pretty accurate.

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Speaker 7: I mean, again, for a guy to come from a

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Speaker 6: This isn't for me, right, And I think Shelby gave

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Speaker 6: Massively disappointing for Mark, Henry and he Carlo al Maida

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Speaker 7: Well, you see them a lot in Muytai. You know

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Speaker 8: I know a lot of the Eddie Bravo guys will

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Speaker 8: He had to do it to both ankles.

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Speaker 7: If if you see just one ankle tied up like

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Speaker 8: And of course he was telling everybody that he was fine.

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Speaker 8: When is he going to work a takedown?

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Speaker 7: He took the he took the hardest path to victory,

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Speaker 6: Right, and speaking of taking the hardest path of victory,

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Speaker 6: how about al Jamaine Sterling. Let us get to Ray

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Speaker 6: long Ago.

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Speaker 4: Now, time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and I'm going

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Speaker 6: All Right, Ray Longo Minute every week on the ANAK

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Speaker 6: and Florian podcast and a congratulatory tone this week? How

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Speaker 6: about Raymond Peter Longo in that fucking corner? How about

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Speaker 6: Aljamaine Sterling the number one bantam weight contender. I don't

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Speaker 6: care what the rankings say. Congrats on another big win. Ray.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, it's a happy time on Long Island. But Jo,

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Speaker 5: I think that his performance blew me away. Uh be

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Speaker 5: than I And I'm really just happy for that things

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Speaker 5: happened like a couple of years ago. That's kind of

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Speaker 5: see like again, it came came to fruition and on

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Speaker 7: You know, Ray, everybody matures differently as a fighter. Everyone

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Speaker 8: Is it just is it just cage time?

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Speaker 7: Ray, I agree with you that al Jo absolutely deserves

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Speaker 6: All right, my man, I know it's a busy weekend

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Speaker 5: you know, three three people, Uh, and just a couple

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Speaker 5: of them just to fight at Madison Squay. God is

433
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Speaker 5: a huge thing on a great show. So just we

434
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Speaker 5: just we just keep on moving.

435
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Speaker 6: John, we don't I know, and you host two podcasts

436
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 6: and you can't even pronounce your own fighters' names. But

437
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Speaker 6: God love you.

438
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Speaker 5: Not only that, I'm very sorry to say. I was told,

439
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: you know, I was talking to mass this morning for

440
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Speaker 5: me al Joe was going on unfiltered some of them.

441
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Speaker 6: I don't know what that is. What is that is

442
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Speaker 6: that a podcast? Unfiltered? Oh?

443
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Speaker 5: No, I don't. I don't know if anybody who listens

444
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 5: to for al Joe, We'll get him.

445
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,959
Speaker 6: I love it. Yeah, we'll tell him he has an

446
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 6: open invitation to come back here. Uh. Last thing before

447
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 6: we let you go, Uh, you were telling me that

448
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 6: my inspiration and my energy before the fight, uh really

449
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 6: boosted you up? I mean, was that just you buttering

450
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Speaker 6: me up? Or did I have some like effect on

451
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Speaker 6: the outcome of the fight.

452
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Speaker 5: No, no effect. And I'll tell you where I'm coming

453
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: from that because I listened to more Mark Henry talk

454
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Speaker 5: about the Marais on an interview and he said he

455
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: was never so confident before in a fight, and I

456
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 5: just learned that that's really true. The more confident you are,

457
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 5: sometimes things don't go your way. So I just try

458
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Speaker 5: to keep an even, you know, mindset, because anything can happen.

459
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Speaker 5: And it was nice to hear you you like it.

460
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Speaker 5: It appeared that you were more motivated than me. But

461
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Speaker 5: I just try to keep it. You know, I don't

462
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Speaker 5: want to start ranting and raving about al Joe. He's

463
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Speaker 5: gonna do this, he's gonna do that.

464
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Speaker 6: Of course, then he loses.

465
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Speaker 5: And then it's you know what I'm saying. So you know,

466
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Speaker 5: my experience over the years is sometimes you do everything

467
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Speaker 5: right and that goes wrong, and you know, they say

468
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 5: and sometimes you know in a good tip and it

469
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Speaker 5: goes right. But thank god, everything went right. And I

470
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Speaker 5: appreciate your enthusiasm. It means a lot, because you know,

471
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 5: I'm an I could be a head case too, so

472
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Speaker 5: you might think I'm joking, but I'm really not.

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Speaker 6: Well, thank you, my man. A wise man Kenneth Allan

474
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Speaker 6: Florian wants told me length is a really big deal

475
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Speaker 6: in M M A and Aljo's using it as well

476
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Speaker 6: as anybody right now. We're excited for you, buddy, have

477
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Speaker 6: a great weekend. Please pass our congratulations.

478
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Speaker 5: A girl, a girl told me the same thing. Oh,

479
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Speaker 5: I don't know what that means, Kenny, but I actually

480
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: broke out.

481
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Speaker 6: And she is right, she says.

482
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Speaker 5: Na. Kenny Florian said, what do you say about.

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Speaker 8: In m m A? I said right in m m

484
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Speaker 8: ah mm a.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so you said in the bedroom. I gotta go. Guys.

486
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Speaker 6: Hey, hey, get your head out of the fucking gutter. Huh. Hey,

487
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Speaker 6: have a great day there in New York. Don't forget

488
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Speaker 6: Boston is competing for another world championship tonight, buddy, have

489
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Speaker 6: a great night.

490
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Speaker 5: There.

491
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Speaker 6: He is Ray Longo every week here on the Anak

492
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Speaker 6: and Florian podcast. Hey, I could have led the show

493
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 6: with the Boston Bruins and the fact that Game six

494
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 6: cost me eight hundred dollars, Oh my goodness, we're purchasing

495
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 6: playoff wins. You know how it goes, You know how

496
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 6: it goes.

497
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Speaker 8: I do.

498
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Speaker 6: You're a what a superstitious, terrible, terrible Aljamin Sterling real quickly,

499
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 6: just putting a bow on that great teacher, great teammate,

500
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 6: Absolutely obsessed with martial arts, watching fights of any kind

501
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 6: all the time, great feel for chokes. Right, you heard

502
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 6: Ray talk about the grappling, great feel for that carotid artery,

503
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 6: as he likes to say, total package. And I think

504
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Speaker 6: in some respects that's why he may not get the fight.

505
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Speaker 6: And I say that with all due respect because so

506
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 6: who doo wants to take on all comers. But to me,

507
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 6: right when you're weighing upside, to me, I just think

508
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: the Algae matchups a tough one. And if I can

509
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Speaker 6: avoid fighting the longest guy in the division right now

510
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Speaker 6: in my first bandawait title of defense, I probably avoid.

511
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Speaker 8: That guy absolutely.

512
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Speaker 7: And you compound that with the fact that again he

513
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Speaker 7: truly is the funk master. He's the guy that is

514
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Speaker 7: really difficult to prepare for. He's very awkward, he's very unorthodox.

515
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 7: Good luck finding a guy who moves like al Jamaine

516
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 7: Sterling in your gym.

517
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Speaker 6: And I think just that alone is very difficult.

518
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 7: You throw in the reach, you throw in all the

519
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 7: other things that he can do out there, he is

520
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 7: going to be a tough matchup for a lot of

521
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Speaker 7: guys out there.

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Speaker 8: John. It was an unbelievable win.

523
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Speaker 7: You could see Pedro Munios was just absolutely confused.

524
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Speaker 6: El Yeah, so on Henry Sajudo as we try to

525
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 6: spin this thing forward, and we could go ten more

526
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Speaker 6: minutes right now talking about Sahuto's greatness and how deep

527
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 6: he had to dig in this performance and everything else.

528
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Speaker 6: Couldn't possibly have more respect for the competitor and the

529
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Speaker 6: athlete that is Henry Sajudo. The three names he called out,

530
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Speaker 6: Dominic Cruz my dear friend, but hasn't fought since twenty sixteen,

531
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Speaker 6: Cody Garbrand, great relationship with him coming off two or

532
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 6: three straight losses. Right, you're Ryah Faber. I mean he's

533
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 6: like us, Right, He's on the other side of forty.

534
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Speaker 6: I guess he's coming back in Sacramento in a couple

535
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Speaker 6: of weeks. But those scenarios seem less viable to certain people.

536
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Speaker 6: I think is certainly the most viable of those three,

537
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 6: because if anybody can come back from a three year

538
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 6: layoff and win a championship fight, it is Dominic. You know,

539
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 6: he is just coming off the one loss to Cody.

540
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 6: He did, in a lot of respects help build the

541
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Speaker 6: banhamweight division. But don't you think that from a competitive standpoint.

542
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Speaker 6: Unless Frankie Edgar gets by Max Holloway and they give

543
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 6: Henry that opportunity to fight Frankie, that the path would

544
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 6: seem pretty clear that Al Joe, on the merits of

545
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: what he's done, should be the guy right now.

546
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Speaker 7: Right, I absolutely believe that to be true. Al Jamaine

547
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 7: Sterling really deserves that shot. And I think it's pretty

548
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 7: clear what Henry Suhudo wants right not only in the

549
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Speaker 7: people that he called out, but also in what he

550
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Speaker 7: said on the mic as well in regards to Dana

551
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Speaker 7: of how he wants to get paid. You know, I

552
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 7: know he recently, did you know he's been doing other

553
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 7: podcast in interviews where he says money is going to

554
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Speaker 7: be a major factor for him moving forward. And you

555
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 7: look at Dominic CRU's, Uriah faber Uh and who was

556
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 7: the other one?

557
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Cody, Sorry Cody.

558
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 7: Those are all the big names in that division, in

559
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 7: and around that division. So I think he's looking for

560
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 7: a big payday. That's what he wants. That was his

561
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 7: motivation behind those names, in my opinion, But I think

562
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 7: the guy who deserves it, that's Sterling.

563
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Speaker 6: The question beckins though, in this new pay per view structure,

564
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Speaker 6: and I don't have all the answers on this, I

565
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 6: try to stay in my lane. But Henry wants a

566
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 6: million bucks, right, I mean when he talks about the

567
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 6: extra zero, right, it would seem to me that he's

568
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: probably making six figures and wants seven. Right. So would

569
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Speaker 6: they pay him more money to fight Dominic Cruz than

570
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Speaker 6: they would pay him to fight al Jamaine Sterling? You know,

571
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Speaker 6: I don't know how the pay per view works. I mean,

572
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 6: in theory, that would be the bigger pay per view

573
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Speaker 6: fight obviously, you know, So I just don't know structurally.

574
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Speaker 6: If you know, they meet his number, if it's a

575
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 6: million bucks, then he doesn't really care and we'll fight

576
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Speaker 6: the true number one contenter.

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Speaker 7: Right, Listen, I know it's a very different struct Sure,

578
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna pretend like I know what the hell

579
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 7: is going on, like I have.

580
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 8: Some inside sources.

581
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 7: But yeah, listen, at the end of the day, you

582
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 7: got to prove to the UFC now that not only

583
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: are you a great fighter, but you're gonna bring in

584
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Speaker 7: the ticket sales and the pay per view sales period.

585
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 7: That's what they're looking for, right, I Mean, let's not

586
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 7: pretend Dimitrius Johnson there's a reason why they let him go, right,

587
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 7: he was one of the best fighters ever to compete

588
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 7: inside the octagon. He wasn't bringing in the sales for

589
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 7: the company and they had to let him go.

590
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 8: It's that simple, right again, Connor McGregor.

591
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 7: He might not be the undefeated guy, but he's the

592
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Speaker 7: guy who's bringing in the most eyeballs to the sport.

593
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 7: Therefore he is going to get paid the most. That's

594
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Speaker 7: what it comes down to. It's both a business and

595
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 7: a sport. Finding that balance it is going to be

596
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 7: critical moving forward. And for Henry s Hudo. Listen, it's

597
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 7: an amazing performance. He's an exciting fighter. I hope that

598
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 7: he is bringing in the eyeballs. He deserves to get

599
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Speaker 7: those seven figures as far as my perception being on

600
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Speaker 7: the outside looking in.

601
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 8: Is he bringing in that money though?

602
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 7: That is the question, and that's going to be the

603
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 7: answer for the UFC on whether they give him that

604
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Speaker 7: or not.

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Speaker 6: Right if he sold a bunch of tickets, maybe they

606
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: don't put that Ferguson Seroni fight on there four weeks out,

607
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: you know. I Mean, there's some questions I'm sure that

608
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 6: we'll get answered. But congratulations to Henry Suhudo and a

609
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 6: man who also at least for the time being, appears

610
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 6: to have saved the UFC flyweight division. So when we

611
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 6: do the show on Wednesday and said of Monday, it

612
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 6: takes on a little bit of a different tone in

613
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Speaker 6: terms of being sort of instant analysis versus long term

614
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 6: focus and you have more time to digest it. So

615
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 6: that brings us to Valentina Shevchenko, an amazing win over

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Speaker 6: Jessica High. I mean truly a great head kick. I

617
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 6: mean you can talk us through it technically obviously, I

618
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 6: mean the guard was low, expecting a body strike, It

619
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Speaker 6: hits the head and the next thing you know, four

620
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Speaker 6: minutes later, Jessica I was asking people if she got

621
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Speaker 6: knocked out on The answer is emphatically.

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Speaker 8: Yes, without a doubt.

623
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Speaker 7: Listen, you want to set a pattern on your opponent

624
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Speaker 7: and then you want to break it, right, and that's

625
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 7: exactly what chef Chenko did.

626
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Speaker 8: Listen, Jessica I.

627
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Speaker 7: I don't think she was the toughest fight for chef Chenko,

628
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Speaker 7: but again, you're looking at a division that they don't

629
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Speaker 7: have a lot of competition to full stop, right. I mean,

630
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 7: we got we got, we gotta, we gotta get that

631
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 7: out there. But Jessica I was willing. She is tough,

632
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 7: but skill wise, she was gonna be at a huge

633
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Speaker 7: disadvantage going into this one. And Chef Chenko just had

634
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 7: way too many weapons for Jessica I. She was attacking

635
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Speaker 7: the legs, she was attacking the body, she was mixing

636
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Speaker 7: things up with their takedowns and and Jessica did just

637
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 7: didn't know what was gonna get thrown next. And when

638
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 7: you're able to have that kind of confusion, similar to

639
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Speaker 7: what al Jo did against Pedro Munos, when you're able

640
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 7: to confuse your opponent out there, they're sitting duck, and

641
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 7: Chef Chenko went for that kill shot went upstairs with

642
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 7: that head kick, and man, that was one of the

643
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 7: scariest knockouts I have ever seen in the UFC period.

644
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 7: The sound of it, the fact that on impact, Jessica

645
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 7: I was already out. I mean I looked like a

646
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 7: tree just falling in the forest slowly, and I was

647
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 7: really concerned, you know, whether Jessica I was going to

648
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 7: be able to get up on her own or not.

649
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 7: I mean, that was absolutely a brutal shot, and Chef

650
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 7: Checko just put on another brilliant performance. I don't see

651
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 7: her losing that belt for a long time. And I

652
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 7: said that and someone says, well, look at ROUSI everyone

653
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: said that about Rowsy. This is a different time in

654
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: a different sport, and a fighter that really is extremely well.

655
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 6: Rounded and a lifelong not just martial artists, but a

656
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 6: lifelong mixed martial artists.

657
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 8: So more than half her.

658
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 6: Life she has been mixing all of the different disciplines.

659
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 6: Made her pro mma debut in two thousand and three.

660
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 6: I mean, we talk a lot about, you know, international

661
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 6: master of sport. She's an international master of sport and

662
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 6: Muay Thai or whatever. She's got a master sport in

663
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 6: every other fucking discipline, imaginable, seventeen time Muay Thai champion,

664
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: on and on it goes, and that becomes an issue,

665
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: I think competitively when you look at this division. Right So,

666
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 6: Caitlin Cheukegian squeaks by joe Anne Calderwood. She was the

667
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 6: number two contender, so she seems to be a clear

668
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 6: number one contender right now. And if I'm chu Kegian's dad,

669
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 6: I'm calling her and I'm like, Hi, Caitlin, it's dad.

670
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 6: You know, maybe one more tune up or see. You know,

671
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: it's like, do you want your daughter to fight Valentina

672
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: Chefchenko As a plus nine hundred underdog. And I say

673
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 6: that with all due respect to Caitlin, but it's it's

674
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 6: a solution. Dominant champions can be a solution, but it

675
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: can also be a problem when every time out there

676
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 6: minus sixteen hundred.

677
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 7: Dude, I'm telling you, at one hundred and twenty five pounds,

678
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 7: watch the hell out.

679
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 8: Now.

680
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 7: Not only is she someone who she's going to have

681
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: more weapons than you, but she just hits so much

682
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 7: harder than everyone else in that division.

683
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: Man.

684
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 7: I mean, that's a s Jarry wellsh really the you

685
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 7: know what I mean, it's a crux of it or whatever. Yeah,

686
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 7: you look at the Amanda Noons is the cyborgs. There's

687
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 7: a massive difference between them and everybody else in their division.

688
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 7: You know, you could be a good striker and all that,

689
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 7: but when you have that and you have the power

690
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 7: and you got the grappling skills, it's not only a

691
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 7: tough fight, it's a legitimately dangerous fight for anyone who

692
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 7: faces chev check go.

693
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 6: And again she's got the results to back it up. Right.

694
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 6: Chukegan defeated Joanne Calderwood and what was the first fight

695
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 6: of the night that came after she dropped I think

696
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 6: it was a split decision to Jessica I. Right, so

697
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 6: all these other women are going toe to toe, judges

698
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 6: have a hard time picking a winner. Your top ten

699
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 6: at flyweight for the women Jessica I, Caitlin Chukegi and

700
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 6: Liz carmushio on a young j check who knows if

701
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 6: her future is even in that division, Roxanne Motaferi, Jojo Calderwood,

702
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 6: Alexis Davis, Jennifer Maya, Lauren Murphy. You know, we'll see,

703
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe some of these up and comers, Andrea Lee, Montana,

704
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 6: Dala Rosa can start to emerge, But found Tina Chevchenko's

705
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 6: got a huge fucking head start, and Jessica I certainly

706
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: paid for it over the weekend, all right, tree topping

707
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 6: some of these other fights. We'll certainly give Tony Ferguson

708
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 6: his due, though. I love Tony Ferguson. Like if I

709
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: was eight years old, I'd be buying a Tony Ferguson poster.

710
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 6: I'd be putting it on my wall. If anyone out

711
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 6: there has an idea of a way I could get

712
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 6: like a Tony Ferguson tattoo that was somewhat subtle, that

713
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: may be multi dual, meaning it's at John underscore ANNEK

714
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 6: on social media. I love this guy. You fought for

715
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 6: this lightweight belt a couple times. He's won twelve straight

716
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 6: fights at one hundred and fifty five pounds. He might

717
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 6: be the greatest UFC lightweight fighter of all time. And

718
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 6: I know there were a lot of layers to this fight,

719
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 6: but this guy, to me is just in a league

720
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: of his own just when it comes to work ethic,

721
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 6: and I mean, he's just a special, special fighter and

722
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 6: a special guy.

723
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 8: He really is.

724
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 7: And this is a guy in Tony Ferguson, who's been

725
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 7: nothing but consistent. And again I said it before on

726
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 7: this podcast, but the fact that he hasn't fought for

727
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 7: a UFC belt at this point is absolutely criminal. He's

728
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 7: done it all. You look at the guys that he's beaten,

729
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 7: the manner in which he's done it. He is an

730
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 7: absolute savage. He looked very motivated out there, and again,

731
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 7: like Tony Fergusson, he had a chip on his shoulder

732
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 7: before John and then before this fight. I mean, with

733
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 7: everything that came out of his past, I think that

734
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 7: really angered him. You know, his relationship with Dana White

735
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 7: is dicey now, But I think all of those things

736
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 7: only motivated Tony Ferguson out there, and again he just

737
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: kept going at Donald Crony, and I think this was

738
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 7: a different Donald Soarroni.

739
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 6: This was a Donald Sony that was very motivated.

740
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 7: This was a tough Donald Serroni who took some shots

741
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 7: and you really didn't see any quit in him, and

742
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: Tony Fergson still was just piecing him up. And you know,

743
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 7: I think Joe Rogan made a really great point in

744
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 7: that fight was the fact that Tony fergus was getting

745
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 7: hit in that fight, right, I mean I thought he was, yeah,

746
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 7: But the damage on Tony Fergson's face versus the damage

747
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 7: on Donald Seroni's face, it was just like night and day.

748
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: And again it's a testament to probably the power, the precision,

749
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 7: you know, the elbows of Tony Fergson versus Donald Serni,

750
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 7: who you know has put a lot of damage on

751
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 7: a lot of guys. He's knocked out a lot of

752
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 7: guys in the UFC at one seventy one fifty five,

753
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 7: and Tony Fergson looked like he was in a tough

754
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 7: sparring fight.

755
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 8: That's it. That's what his fight his face looked.

756
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I was surprised didn't talking to him after

757
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 6: the fact that he did actually need a couple of stitches,

758
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: but largely he uh, he appeared unblemished. So how do

759
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 6: you quantify the impact of Donald Seroni going twenty five

760
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 6: hard minutes with Ally quint to five weeks prior, Because

761
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 6: as great a place as Saroni seemed to be in

762
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 6: and as comfortable as he is making these quick turns,

763
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: I'm not sure he has a ever made a quick

764
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 6: turn after going twenty five minutes a few weeks prior,

765
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: and b of course facing somebody liked Tony Ferguson while

766
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 6: making that quick turn.

767
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 8: That's a very difficult question.

768
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 7: I think that in a lot of ways that brings

769
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 7: out the best in Donald Seroni mentally because of the

770
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 7: quick turnaround. He just likes staying active. But sometimes the

771
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 7: body just simply does not cooperate.

772
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 8: And I think that cuts Yeah, I mean that's brutal.

773
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: Donald Serni is not a small guy, six foot six

774
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 7: foot one, has got to cut down a one hundred

775
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 7: and fifty five pounds, just went twenty five minutes against

776
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 7: a very tough guy in Ali Atquinta that's a lot

777
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 7: to ask from a guy, and that was obviously another

778
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 7: high profile fight against an absolute killer and Tony Ferguson.

779
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 7: So I think that, you know, again, a lot of

780
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 7: times we have great intentions as a fighter, but sometimes

781
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 7: your body just doesn't show up.

782
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 8: Sometimes. I'm not saying that's what happened.

783
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 7: I think Tony Ferguson is what happened really more than

784
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 7: anything else.

785
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: But it's something you got to talk about. That is

786
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 6: that is a factor for.

787
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 8: A lot of guys.

788
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 6: The draw for Seroni obviously was that if you beat

789
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 6: Tony Ferguson, then even if he had to wait six months,

790
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: a win over Tony Ferguson gets you an undisputed title

791
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 6: shot eventually, even if you have to bide your time.

792
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 6: So that was the upside for Seroni. But I think

793
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 6: a lot of his fans are probably you know, his

794
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 6: fans who wanted him to compete for the belt a

795
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 6: second time are probably disappointed in some respects that he

796
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 6: took this fight right, because if you sort of let

797
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: somebody else try to conquer the giant, you know, maybe

798
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 6: it could have aligned for Donald And now, I mean,

799
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: you saw all he was talking about was the Bell

800
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 6: Kenny and now you know, it's it's distant all of

801
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 6: a sudden, it's it's tough.

802
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 8: It was a tough loss.

803
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 7: I think Donald SERRONI didn't lose anything in this one, though,

804
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 7: I really, I really don't. I think you can put

805
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 7: him right back in there, either for a rematch or

806
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 7: put him in another high profile fight.

807
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 8: At one hundred and threty five pounds.

808
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 7: The way that it went down almost was a good

809
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 7: thing for Donald SERNI obviously bittersweet, but I wouldn't be

810
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 7: surprised if they try to book a rematch. And that

811
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 7: sounds absolute crazy, but I think a lot of people

812
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 7: are kind of clamoring for it. I know, I know

813
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 7: that Ferguson said he was down for it. Anyways, he

814
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: said that after the fight. I don't know why he

815
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 7: thinks about that. Now things change, But you know, and

816
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 7: and again with this whole thing and a whole mess

817
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 7: at one hundred and fifty five pounds, you know, I

818
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 7: know Ray has good intentions and and and believes that

819
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 7: Tony Ferguson will probably get that next shot.

820
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 8: I don't think that's what's gonna happen. Let's be honest.

821
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 7: If Kabe If Habib Normaga Matta beats Pourier, right, that's

822
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 7: gonna that is going to be a rematch. He's gonna

823
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 7: have a rematch against Conor McGregor, right. I mean, there's

824
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 7: just too much money on the table. The UFC is

825
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 7: just not putting on the same pay per views that

826
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 7: they did before. They need a big pay per view number,

827
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: you know, with the whole changeover with how this pay

828
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 7: per view is working, I don't think people are finding

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 7: their way over to it as easily Connor McGregor.

830
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 8: I think they will.

831
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: I will say Habib is stubborn in all the best

832
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 6: of ways, and I do think legacy wise, he wants

833
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 6: that win over Ferguson. He wants to be the guy

834
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: to stop the train. But I see your point, and

835
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 6: I do think a rematch is pretty likely. And of course,

836
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 6: if Dustin Poorrier beats Kabib, then Kabie probably has some

837
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 6: sort of rematch clause. And then things get further cloudied

838
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 6: if you're is that even a word, fucking cloudied? But

839
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 6: things get a little bit more smoky if you're Tony Ferguson.

840
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 6: But what a body of work you know? Put any

841
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 6: Leslie resume up against that one, and in terms of

842
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 6: what happened at the end of that second round, Thankfully

843
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 6: Dan Murgliatta, you know, didn't overinject himself into this because

844
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 6: could you imagine if this ended up being a DQ

845
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 6: win for Seroni and thereby went away Tony Ferguson's winning streak. Yes,

846
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: it was a late strike, but as Seroni himself said

847
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 6: after the fact, and with respect to Joe Shilling and

848
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: everybody else who's upset about this, even Serni said, the

849
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: punch didn't have any you know, with the punch after

850
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 6: the fact wasn't why you know, I wasn't able to continue.

851
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: But could you imagine dudef for sitting here with a

852
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 6: Seroni DQ win on Wednesday morning, you know.

853
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 7: I know, And listen, kudos to Donald Serroni, similar to

854
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 7: Anthony Lionheart Smith when he was honest about it. Hey, listen, No,

855
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 7: that was not the factor. And you know a lot

856
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 7: of people said, oh, that last shot, that's what broke

857
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 7: Donald Cerroni's nose or orbital bone or whatever. There were

858
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 7: no breaks that, There were no fractures in Donald Soroni's

859
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 7: face at all. That that just came out. I saw

860
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 7: that this morning. So again, Donald Soroni just as tough

861
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 7: as they come. The guy loves to fight. Very honest

862
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 7: and candid response there, and you gotta love cowboy man.

863
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 8: What a stud.

864
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 6: If you put a ferguson Gaechee fight together like on

865
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 6: that up with Dabi Coward or something, or as its

866
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 6: own main event, I think the fans would just go bananas.

867
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 8: Dude.

868
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 7: What one of the greatest lines of all time was Gaechee?

869
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 7: He tweeted, he goes Tony Ferguson he said something effective.

870
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 7: I want to see that dark place with you, Tony

871
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 7: Fergus Yeah, and you know he means it. Both of

872
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 7: those guys when they say that, they actually mean it.

873
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 7: Both Fergus and Gaichee are willing to go to those

874
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 7: dark places. I don't know who goes deeper, but maybe

875
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 7: that's a fight we need to see the future as well.

876
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 8: Dude. That chills thinking about it and.

877
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: Not just willing to go to that dark place like

878
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: Gaichie wants to go there and then he wants to

879
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 6: go there again.

880
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 8: You know, yes he is.

881
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 6: I mean you talk about unique individuals, right, I never

882
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 6: met anybody like justin Gaigee, but I do believe that

883
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 6: there's a good chance Tony Ferguson's next fight could be

884
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: for the undisputed title. And I say it in this context.

885
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 6: Right after the fact, he was all about the rematch,

886
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: and by the way, Dana White seems to want to

887
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 6: put the rematch together. So maybe that's what happens, and

888
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 6: maybe it is on the same car to as Kabib

889
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 6: and Pourier. But even by the time Tony Ferguson had

890
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: gotten up to the set for the postfight show, he

891
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: had stepped back from a rematch a little bit. And

892
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 6: when put in the context of his winning streak and

893
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 6: his fan base and everybody else, it's like, dude, at

894
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 6: some point got to fight for the undisputed title. Like

895
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 6: at some point it just gets too ridiculous, you know,

896
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 6: and you gotta go fight for the undisputed title. So

897
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 6: I think his management is going to push him pretty

898
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 6: hard to try to idle and maybe fight for the belt.

899
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 6: But there are a lot of things that could be

900
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 6: in his way, and of course Dustin Poorier chief among them.

901
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: Anything on pyotr Yan. For me, I mean, I don't

902
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: think he's going to get title shot consideration, like al

903
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 6: Jamaine Sterling, but he got a very urgent, at times

904
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 6: desperate Jimmy Rivera, and Rivera was certainly at his toughest,

905
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: even though he wasn't able to get much done in

906
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 6: the fight. And Pyotr Yan Man, I mean, June twenty third,

907
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, makes his UFC debut. You know, he's at

908
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 6: asania two point oh at least in terms of the

909
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 6: accomplishments in a year. I'm not saying he's a similar

910
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 6: fighter in any way, shape or form, but less than

911
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 6: a year on the roster, five and oh at one

912
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty five pounds, and I just think that

913
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 6: his upside is pretty damn high.

914
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 8: I agree with you.

915
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 7: I think Jan had a tremendous performance against a inspired

916
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 7: Jimmy Rivera. That was good to see Jimmy Rivera out

917
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 7: fighting like that, because I was a little concerned after

918
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 7: that knockout against Mode that he was very hesitant out there.

919
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 7: I think it probably had a lot to do with

920
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 7: Sterling also coming off that knockout loss, but now giving

921
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 7: him some time, he was certainly willing to trade with Yan.

922
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 7: And you know, again, I gotta criticize his corner. I

923
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 7: heard so much bad advice there, and again it's really

924
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 7: easy to send out your fighter to go into the

925
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 7: fire and get knocked out when it's not your brain

926
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 7: on the line. And again maybe it was just him

927
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: them trying to motivate Jimmy Rivera, but that's when he

928
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 7: was taking all the shots. In my opinion, I mean,

929
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 7: you don't have to just go forward to win a fight.

930
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 7: Like That's not the only way you win a fight.

931
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 7: How about moving laterally, how about moving your head, how

932
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 7: about showing that kind of advice as opposed to you know,

933
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 7: thinking that your fighter scared, you gotta go forward and

934
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 7: you're just getting knocked out, it doesn't matter. I mean,

935
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 7: that's just stupid advice. And I think that really hurt

936
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 7: Jimmy Rivera out there against a big time power puncher

937
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 7: and Yon.

938
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, this guy is very, very dangerous.

939
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 7: I think weapons wise, he's gonna need a little bit more.

940
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 7: But I tell you what, he's one of those guys

941
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 7: that legitimately has knockout power and if he catches anyone

942
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: in that division, he'll put you asleep.

943
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 6: Tatiana Suarez a winner by unanimous decision over Nina answer Off.

944
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 6: She booked two rounds and then Nina came on late.

945
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 6: Couldn't possibly have more respect for Nina answer Off taking

946
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 6: this fight, putting her four fight winning streak on the

947
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 6: line against the fighter who represents far and away from

948
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 6: her the toughest matchup in the division. You know, I

949
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: don't think Suarez's stock is necessarily diminished, but she didn't

950
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: necessarily look championship ready over the weekend. What'd you think

951
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 6: of Suarez an answer Off in the feature of prelim.

952
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 8: Well, listen.

953
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 7: I think it's a credit to Nina answer Off and

954
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 7: how good she is. Again, I said this on the podcast.

955
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 7: I believe I said, you know, if there's one, if

956
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 7: there's one bet, that's a little bit tempting, just based

957
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 7: on the fact that she was just such a huge underdog.

958
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 7: I think answer Off is not a bad bet based

959
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 7: on her ground skills, based on her experience, and you know,

960
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 7: again everyone over at att said she was seized the

961
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 7: best in that division, So she went up against a

962
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 7: very tough matchup though in Tatiana Suarez. I think Suarez

963
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 7: still got it done with her wrestling. I think she's

964
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 7: always going to be a threat there. I did think

965
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 7: that Nina did a great job in that third round

966
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 7: of winning that. I think that's probably the first round

967
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 7: that Tatiana has lost in her MMA career, probably thus far,

968
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 7: and I think that's going to be a great learning

969
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 7: lesson for Tatiana. I think these are the fights you

970
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 7: want to have before you fight for the belt, to

971
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 7: give you that experience, to let you know, hey, you

972
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 7: still got a lot to work on. You still got

973
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 7: to get more experience and more comfortable in the octagon.

974
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 7: I think Suarez will only get bigger, I'll only get better, sorry,

975
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 7: moving forward in her career.

976
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 6: And we will talk about the one hundred and fifteen

977
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 6: pound title fight in a minute. I probably should have

978
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 6: done it here, but I don't want to short change

979
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 6: Calvin Cater because since Kenny Florian he is Boston's best

980
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 6: hope for a UFC champion and goes up, gets his

981
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 6: first top ten opponent and Cardo Lamas and knocks him

982
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 6: out in four minutes in six seconds. There are a

983
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 6: lot of layers to this Cater game. You know, He's

984
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 6: had to put in a lot of the right work

985
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 6: to get here. He's had some learning experience the Moikano

986
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: loss in the UFC. But I don't know, dude, I mean,

987
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 6: this dude looks like the real deal, and he's going

988
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 6: to get a chance to prove in his next fight too.

989
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 7: On the put me on the Cater bandwagon right now,

990
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 7: because I tell you what, this is a guy who

991
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 7: hits extremely hard, not only to get the knockout over

992
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 7: a guy in Ricardo Lamas who has fought for the

993
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 7: belt at one hundred and forty five pounds, but he

994
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 7: broke his jaw. Lamas got his job broken at three

995
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 7: different places. Yeah, I mean, just ridiculous. And again that

996
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 7: is some serious power, and perhaps even more impressive than

997
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 7: the knockout itself was the composure and the precision of

998
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 7: Calvin Cater. There was nothing that Ricardo Lamas did in

999
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 7: that fight that threw off Calvin Cater at all. And

1000
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 7: you look at the experienced disparity in that fight. It

1001
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 7: was significant, and I thought that was going to be

1002
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 7: a factor. Said, you know Lamas, his experience, his wrestling,

1003
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 7: he hits very hard, he's got a good guillotine positionally,

1004
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 7: he's not bad on the ground. I said, that's gonna

1005
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 7: be that's gonna be a tough fight for Calvin Cator,

1006
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 7: and I thought it would be a decision win for

1007
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 7: Ricardo Lamas.

1008
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 8: Boy, was I wrong?

1009
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 7: Calvin Cator's pressure, his composure was something to behold.

1010
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 6: I agree with you. Cater is definitely a contender.

1011
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 8: Man.

1012
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 6: Well, you may have gotten that one wrong, but you

1013
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 6: did kick Ian Parker's asset UFC two thirds of course.

1014
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, you got eleven.

1015
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 7: Parker's the best thing to happen to me on this

1016
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 7: podcast as far as fixed.

1017
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 8: I mean, it's been beautiful.

1018
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 6: You know, we picked ten fights and you got eleven points.

1019
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 6: So like that, Yeah, you had Alexa Grosso as an underdog,

1020
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 6: you had Henry Sahudo as an underdog. I think it

1021
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 6: was like eleven to eight. I'll eleven to seven, eleven A,

1022
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 6: I'll look it up. But again, it's like your six

1023
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 6: or seventh straight winning week and you've turned Parker back

1024
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: twice here.

1025
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 7: So the big question is, well, what is John do

1026
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 7: with Ian Parker at this point?

1027
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 8: I mean, is this a guy? Are you? Are you

1028
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 8: gonna make a trade here? Does he get thrown out?

1029
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 5: Well?

1030
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 8: What happens with the end.

1031
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 6: I do think mm a lock of the night might

1032
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 6: be coming in for UFC two thirty nine. I have

1033
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 6: not shared this with Ian yet, but I think he

1034
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 6: might you know he's gotta he gotta win one of

1035
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 6: these weeks leading up to two thirty nine, or we're

1036
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 6: gonna bring in my man man Preachahas.

1037
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 7: I mean, are you sweating yet though, Like you don't

1038
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 7: seem so concerned, but I definitely.

1039
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 6: See that you're getting a little like you.

1040
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 8: Don't like how close it's getting. Now.

1041
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: If I knew what the punishment was, I think I'd

1042
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 6: be sweating a little bit more. You know, the listeners

1043
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 6: are all over me because I still haven't done the

1044
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 6: Power Hour, which will be done in Anaheim. I'm gonna

1045
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 6: try to extend that trip a day and do the

1046
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 6: Power Hour live on the podcast that Monday after the show.

1047
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 6: I don't think that would make a lot of sense

1048
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 6: to do it beforehand, necessarily, not the way I want

1049
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 6: to go into my big fight week, necessarily with a

1050
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 6: Power Hour on Monday. Although maybe I should just tough enough,

1051
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 6: all right, very quickly Bretto Komodo reporting, and maybe it's

1052
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 6: been finalized by the time you're listening to this that

1053
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: Jessica Androge, who just won the belt in May, is

1054
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 6: going to turn around quickly and defend it against Wailey

1055
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 6: Jong in China in August. Now I know Michelle Waterson

1056
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 6: appears to be the biggest snub if you even want

1057
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 6: to call her that. She's number seven in the world.

1058
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 6: Wyley Jong is number six. Everybody above them seems to

1059
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: be tied up. Cloud Jagodelia I think has a fight

1060
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 6: on the books. You'll want to you know, Jcheck coming

1061
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 6: off a lost Nina answer Off just fought the weekend,

1062
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 6: as did Tatiana Suarez. Rose nama unis the number one contender,

1063
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 6: needs to heal her wounds. So Jessica Androge is the

1064
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 6: part of this that nobody is talking about.

1065
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 8: We'll get to.

1066
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 6: Jong in a minute. But Andrag understands that at the

1067
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 6: best way for her to become a UFC superstar, the

1068
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 6: best way for her to promote herself is to fight

1069
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 6: often and to finish fights right. So she just beat Rose,

1070
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 6: and she wants to piggy back upon that momentum. She's healthy, obviously,

1071
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 6: she's making championship money right now, even though this fight

1072
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 6: won't be on pay per view, and it's a very

1073
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 6: exciting matchup with Wayley Jong. So before I even want

1074
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 6: to talk about the merits of Jong, and she's richly deserving,

1075
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 6: like I give andraj a lot of credit because I

1076
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Speaker 6: think she understands that this championship reign is a delicate

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Speaker 6: thing and she wants to make it count.

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Speaker 8: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, there's a reason why Cowboy Seroni is

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00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 7: such a big star. It's because of his consistency. This

1081
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 7: is a face that is familiar to the UFC fan

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00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 7: base because he's fighting every other few weeks.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's unbelievable. So that's what they want to see.

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00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 7: They want to see a champion who's willing to go

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Speaker 7: out there and put their belt on the line consistently.

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Speaker 7: And I think Andrage has that durability, She has that toughness,

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00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 7: she has that confidence to go out there and defend

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00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 7: that belt repeatedly. I think this is a smart choice,

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Speaker 7: especially as a new champion and doing it in enemy territory.

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Speaker 6: As they say, I think says a lot. Suarez has

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00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 6: a neck injury, she's still undefeated. It's not out of

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00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: the realm of possibility that when Tatiana Suarez comes back,

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Speaker 6: because of her ranking and her undefeated record and everything

1094
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 6: that she brings to the table, that her next fight

1095
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 6: would be for the belt. I think Waterson's next fight, conceivably,

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00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 6: depending on the calendar, could be for the belt. Maybe

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00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 6: they match those two ladies up. But Suarez again is injured,

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00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 6: and I'm not sure how soon she would like to

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Speaker 6: turn around. There were some reports that maybe Michelle didn't

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Speaker 6: want to fight till September or October, and there was

1101
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 6: obviously this August date. But weitely Jeong Kenny has won

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00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 6: nineteen consecutive fight since dropping her pro debut. She's finished

1103
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 6: sixteen of those nineteen wins. She's got submission skills, excellent

1104
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 6: on the feet, certainly a crowd pleasing style three to

1105
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 6: zero in the UFC dominant win over Tisha Torres. To

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00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 6: say she's not deserving or as deserving as Michelle Waterson

1107
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 6: with respect to the fact that Waterson turned pro in

1108
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 6: like two thousand and five, but to say that Jong's

1109
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 6: not deserving to me, sounds ignorant, sounds like you haven't

1110
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 6: watched her on UFC fight pass. To me, it's not

1111
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 6: just the China angle. I think the body of work

1112
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 6: is worthy of a championship opportunity.

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00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, and absolutely, you look at the people in that division,

1114
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 7: the women in that division. Nina answeroff she had just

1115
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 7: lost of course to Tatiana Suarez. Who's to Suarez you

1116
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 7: said has a nick injury rose down ma Unis, you know,

1117
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 7: got knocked out, so she's not ready for the rematch.

1118
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 7: Claudia Gadelia I don't think is deserving and the next

1119
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 7: one on that list at number six is long, so

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00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 7: I think she's the one. She's nineteen and one right now,

1121
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 7: just amazing consistency. Her performance against Tsha Torres, for me,

1122
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 7: really sold me. So I think she's a fighter that

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00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 7: is deserving of it, and I also think she could

1124
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 7: absolutely win that fight as well.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's not that one sided. At least in the

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00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 6: opening betting line, I think minus three hundred for Andras

1127
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 6: and plus two thirty five for way Lee Jang Jaw.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, I just want to say that. You know,

1129
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 6: sometimes when I promote a matchup like this on social media,

1130
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: people think it's like, oh, dude, you're such a fucking chill.

1131
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 6: You know, if I didn't like the direction that they

1132
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 6: were going promotionally here, maybe I wouldn't hop onto social

1133
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 6: media and scream from the rooftops that Waterson got hosed, right,

1134
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 6: because that probably wouldn't be the best thing for me

1135
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Speaker 6: to do under the employee of the UFC. But I'm

1136
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Speaker 6: a fight fan. First, my opinion is what I'm putting

1137
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 6: out there. And if I I mean dude, like I've

1138
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 6: called Wayley Jong's fights, I've watched all of her fights,

1139
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 6: so you can understand why it's easy for me to

1140
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 6: sit here and make a case like she can go

1141
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 6: fucking win that fight. Well.

1142
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 7: Also, what makes it exciting too is that you look

1143
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 7: at that divisions. There's few women out there that really

1144
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 7: can match the athleticism of someone like Andrage, and I

1145
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 7: really believe that Jong is one of those that really

1146
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 7: could do it. She's a tremendous athlete picking it up

1147
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 7: the sport like she has and by the way I

1148
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 7: think she's she's put together that nineteen fight Wdnestreak in

1149
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: like three years something ridiculous. She hasn't she hasn't been

1150
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 7: in the sport that long. So again, just just really

1151
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 7: impressed with her body work.

1152
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 6: And after the show today, maybe I have it on

1153
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: my fighter card. I was going to try to put

1154
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 6: together and if you'll just humor me here, but I

1155
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 6: was going to try to put together the record of

1156
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 6: all of her opponents outside the UFC oftentimes when we

1157
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: get a newer fighter in the UFC, I'll tally what

1158
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 6: her record. Let's see if I have it here, So

1159
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 6: she's never been finished. I don't have the record of

1160
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 6: UFCPI Jackson wink MMA last camp. Yeah, nineteen straight wins,

1161
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 6: sleigh favorite against t Sha Torres. Well, I don't have

1162
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 6: the record of her opponents outside the UFC. It probably

1163
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 6: wasn't super strong, but anyway, I'm excited to see it.

1164
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to Chine, but I'll be watching August

1165
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 6: thirty first, I think it is. And that is going

1166
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Speaker 6: to do it for today. Thank you' all for dealing

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Speaker 6: with the delay this week. Thanks to Ray Longo for

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Speaker 6: joining us. Next week we are back. We will have

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Speaker 6: some picks for Greenville, South Carolina. So you're in South

1170
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Speaker 6: Carolina today, it will not be there ten days from

1171
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Speaker 6: now when the UFC is there for the first time.

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Speaker 7: Correct, back, I'm going to be back home in Boston, man,

1173
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Speaker 7: So I'll be back home visiting family.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, hopefully you can fit in a championship

1175
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 6: if they can close out the Blues tonight.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, let's go all right.

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Speaker 6: We will be back next week. I'm sure we'll have

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Speaker 6: something to talk about as usual, and of course we'll

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