WEBVTT - HR1: Class vs. Class 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:04.040 At least. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.640 He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.840 your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.560 Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.200 Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie, he is 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.840 Lee Matt Williamson, and uh, well, it is a much 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.880 nicer Tuesday, Pittsburgh. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:27.480 I'm a lot different than this morning. I'm gon. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.000 Wait, yesterday was yeah, it was jolly, yeah, chili and rainy, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.840 and today it's sunshine. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:34.960 Of these guys, they said, next week's supposed to gett 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.639 nasty again. Couple daysposed to be great and let's get 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:38.440 back to crazy. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.080 You know what when we go to West Palm Beach 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.159 for the owners meetings, Yeah, I wanted to be bad here. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.240 I wanted to be crappy. I wanted to be ugly, 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.360 snow all that stuff. 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.040 Then we get home and it's all gone, right, Yeah, yeah. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.760 I want to be down in the you know, walking 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.760 on the beach and hanging out at the breakers. 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.280 And but that's BArch in Pittsburgh. I mean, it's not 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.000 really going to be up and down week to week 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.400 or day today. But today's awesome. I had to. 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.480 Tell so those of you who don't know I run 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:08.279 the baseball league in Washington, the Pony League specifically, and 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.440 my guys are I sent out my schedule. We did 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.160 all of our stuff over the weekend, had our draft 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.679 and all that stuff, and I sent up about that. Yeah, 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:19.640 they start up here. And I sent my preseason practice 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.320 schedule out and the guys were like. One of the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.520 guys was like, you didn't put a batting cage schedule 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.120 on there. I said, well, first of all, we got 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.160 to get the batting cage up. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:30.160 There's no batting cage as we speak. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.640 Yeah, well I have the cage. We have to we 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.160 have to hang it. To hang it, it's like fifteen 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:37.240 feet off the ground on the top and it's down 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.480 a hillside. I said, I'm not going to be there 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.479 that day because that's the day we fly to West 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:43.920 Palm Beach. Is the day we had the work day 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.400 for it. I said, I don't want you guys climbing 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:50.080 up there in bad weather on ladders to hang this thing. 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:54.640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's I've done it myself by myself 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.279 before taking it up and put it down. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.080 I wouldn't want to do that in the rain. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:01:59.840 Just put it that way. Plus you know how to 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.080 do it, and they might not and they don't right, right, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:04.680 So that's what you're dealing with. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.120 This time of year, they'll be we'll have more snow. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.160 Oh, I'm sure I can't imagine making a practice schedule 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.360 for baseball today because I'm sure I make it. Whether 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.440 they'll be, whether they get used or not is completely 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.800 up to my It's a guideline probably. Yeah. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.680 Like everything, you have to have a plan. 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:23.440 I have a plan, and then you executed the best 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.840 you possibly can have. Things come down the road that 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.519 there's roadblocks and hurdles you got to get around or over. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:28.760 You know. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.120 My friend of mine runs the Mustang League, and but 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.520 ten years ago now my sons and I took my 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.720 sons and we went back and we coached a Mustang team, 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.440 which is nine to ten year olds just for fun. Yeah, 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.320 my oldest son had just graduated college. My younger son's. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.240 He's a good player. Yeah, people don't know, right. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.600 So we go back and we coach a Mustang team. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.760 And a friend of mine was the league president at 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:56.799 the time. He does he like schedules, you all, every 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.440 thing is filled with practice times. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.400 Wow, it's like the whole NFL schedule. 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:05.880 And we didn't have any rain that spring. Now, technically 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.399 you're only supposed to practice with those kids five times. 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.800 A week or four times. He knows it up with 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.480 all day because he knows there was going to be rained. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.960 Some of the other guys were skipping some practices and 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.480 you know, they we had tournament that weekend, so I 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.600 was going to be missing three players. No. I practiced 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.359 every single time there was a practice scheduled on there. 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.799 We practiced, okay and so and got lucky and he 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.400 actually got it in. 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.880 We had a meeting late in the season and somebody 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.720 asked about that and he's like, how many practice you have. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.600 I'm like, every one of them. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.960 A whole bunch. Yeah, yeah, and we're good. Well, and 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.720 behold we won the championship. Practicing is important. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.640 We I think we started the season off like two 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.400 and seven or something like that in the first half 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.080 of the season. Second half of the season came around 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.800 much different because we practiced. Coach getting back to the point, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.800 we stuck to the plan. Stuck the plan, we were 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.240 scheduled to practice. We practiced. If three kids showed up, 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.760 three kids showed up, But we practiced. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.320 You can get some three kids better at least right, That's. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.120 The way I saw it, and you know, hanging out 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:06.720 with my son, we're doing baseball stuff. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.280 It was fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you want 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.080 to be doing anyway, Absolutely. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:15.840 So cool getting onto the show. I've seen some comparisons 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.360 Matt of this year's draft to the twenty twenty two draft, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.320 and I don't see that refreshment. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:28.279 Who's the you talking about overall? About? Okay, who's the 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:29.960 first overall pick in twenty twenty two? 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.040 Twenty twenty two was? 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.120 I don't think of it in years. I always think 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.200 that's the Borough Draft, that's the Garrett Draft. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.320 That's a you know, was Trayvon Walker, Aiden Hutchinson got 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.440 two picks, no quarterback in that Kenny Pickett went twenty 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.760 first or twentieth, which is where he was slated to go. Folks, 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.400 somebody on the message board today from yesterday's show talked about, well, 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.520 Kenny Pickett was overdrafted. Nobody GMS have said that he 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:59.280 was a third round pick. That's not what the pre 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:03.000 draft stuff saying. No, go back and look google it right, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.679 google twenty twenty two pre draft rankings, and Kenny Pickett 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:08.839 will be in the first round. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.880 Somewhere. Oh yeah, everybody had him right right right, I 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.320 mean he was not a premier. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:15.680 In fact, a lot of people also had Malik Willis there. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.760 Yeah. Absolutely, So it was a shock on draft day 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.080 how few right went when they were, when they went, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.360 when they went. But this draft is not that, No, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:25.800 I don't think. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.240 I think it wasn't a top ten pick, although some 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.480 people had him there too. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.440 Right right right? The first quarterback, I mean quarterback. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.760 Yeah, to me, it's more like the twenty sixteen draft 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.679 where goff and Wentz went number one and two. Okay, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.360 Bosa went three, and then Ramsey, Ezekiel Elliott, Jalen Ramsey, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:44.240 Ronnie Stanley. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.760 I might like those non quarterbacks better than this group. Yeah, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.800 but it's yeah, in that there were two quarterbacks, yeah yeah, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.520 and then Elliott's the gents. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.960 Paxton Lynch was the next guy. He went at twenty six, 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.680 which I could see happening this year. 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.120 And even goff and Wentz, like several months before the draft, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.039 Wentz was not a household name or considered even a 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.480 surefire first run North Dakota state guy, right right, I 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.479 mean it was Senior Bowl, it was the process, and Okay, 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.480 and I don't think he got pushed up artificially. I mean, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.520 the league, the league knows these guys. I'm scouted and 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.520 of course, and the media is always gonna be a 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:29.919 little behind, of course, But I also think that Goff 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.320 isn't the first pick in every draft, that the prospect. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.479 He wasn't special Town, special Town. He wasn't a super 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:37.560 athlete or anything like that. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.240 But you got a running back up there, You're gonna 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:43.040 have a Ezekiel up Elliott versus genty. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.520 Okay, in that neighborhood, right, that's comparable a couple of 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.599 tackles that Carter versus Bosas in the same neighborhood. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.960 Jack Conklin was strictly a right tackle. Does he go 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.719 in the top ten every year? Probably? 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.520 He wouldn't have last year tackle he went eight over 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:57.240 all that year. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.080 A bunch of edge rusher's cornerbacks, you know those kind 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.480 of guys. Laramie Tunsall went thirteenth. But there was a 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:05.120 reason for that. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:09.320 That was a mask incidence, you know, that was frowned 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.480 upon then a little more than nowadays. Yeah, but he 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:13.200 would have went high. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:17.280 Yeah, but I see what you did there. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:18.320 That was an accident. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.440 But also with the wide receivers. 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:22.400 Kay, who's in that club? 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.760 The first wide receiver taken that year was Corey cole 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.640 at the Coleman year, Corey Coleman at fifteen. The Browns 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.640 could have taken any receive. It was a it was 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.960 a bad, bad receiver draft. They took Corey Coleman fifteenth. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:35.680 That's like Will Fuller. 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.320 Will Fuller went twenty first, Josh Doson went twenty second, 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.960 all terrible, Laklan Treadwell went twenty third. 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.840 One thing like I always talk about and kind of joke, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.679 but maybe someday they'll do it. There'll be a book 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:52.239 of NFL scouting history there. That was an era where 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.960 the spread offenses and the Yeah, like Corey Coleman ran 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.160 like two routes and there were times he didn't even 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:01.200 run a route because cause they wuldn't to play so fast, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:02.800 they didn't want to tire him out. He would just 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.119 stand there, yeah, and they'd hold up a Mickey Mouse 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.080 sign or whatever or Donald Duck. I mean, like, I 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.200 don't think the NFL knew how to scout that. They 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.280 just knew that he was fast with size and made 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.960 some big plays, but his game didn't translate. At all, 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.160 and Treadwell had some of that, and so did one 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.760 of the other receivers he's matched it. I forget which 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.600 one it was not full Er. Fuller was just fast. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.720 Docks and was the other thoughts it was like that too, right, Yeah, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.760 the TCU, all those guys out of those Mickey Mouse offenses. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.640 Big twelve put up fifty points a game. The league 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:34.720 didn't know how to handle them. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:39.400 I'm just looking here, Sterling Shepherd in the second round. 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.040 He might have been the best receiver in the draft. 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.560 Well, Michael Thomas was the second round pick, Okay, yeah, yeah, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.240 which shows you how quickly he fizzled. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.840 Like, well, his problem was he didn't run fast enough. Yeah, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.120 he ran like a four or five seven. 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.800 Uh. Tyler Boyd was in that draft, Okay, So I 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.280 mean there were some receivers in that draft who had success, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:56.600 but the first round guys didn't. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.560 No, they didn't. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.800 Just looking at that first surround overall, golf and Wentz 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.040 went one and two, Bosa was three. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.840 Which way I thought you were going with this is 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.840 Sanders might not be the second or third best player 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.679 in this draft, but I think there's a chance he 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:11.400 goes two or three. 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.679 Yeah, you know, right, Ezekiel Elliott went four, Jalen Ramsey five, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.280 Ronnie Stanley six to Forrest Buckner. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.240 Seven, Jennipede a real good pick. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.000 Jack Conklin went eighth, Leonard Floyd nine, Eli Apple ten. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.560 Eli Apple was a top ten pickings. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.520 Yeah, yeah, Ohio State looks apart, ran. 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.960 Well, still in the league. 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:38.480 Yeah, he's I mean he never even had a good year. 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:40.679 Vernon Hargreaves at eleven. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.720 He was a cover two guy. It didn't run well. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.600 Sheldon Rankins at twelve. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.720 Still in the league and it is okay, but not special. 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.720 Tonsa at thirteen would have went much higher, of course. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:57.560 Carl Joseph at fourteen. Fifteen was Coleman. Sixteen was Taylor Decker. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:58.920 Which has been solid. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:05.080 Yeah. Neil was seventeen, not great. Ryan Kelly was eighteen. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:12.960 Shack loss in nineteen, dron Lee twenty, Fuller docks and Treadwell. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.040 William Jackson went twenty four. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:15.600 Okay. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.040 The Steelers took Arty Burns at twenty five. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:20.520 Steelers ended up with a handful of these dudes. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.760 With Actually, Arty Burns is still in the league. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:23.920 He signed somewhere yesterday. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.080 Yeah, he signed Miami. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.520 Yeah, where we once grew up at yeah, tenth tier 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:28.960 in the league. I don't know if he's going. It 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.559 is shocking he's still around, right. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.079 Paxton Lynch went twenty six to Denver. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.560 Also ended up in Pittsburgh. It was like five these 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.200 dudes ended up a Steelers. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:42.079 Kenny Clark at twenty seven success, Joshua Garnett to San 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:48.920 Francisco at twenty eight. Wow, Robert and DJ. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.040 Yeah, it was off the field of stuff with him too, yeah, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:53.319 crazy and work ethic stuff. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.120 Twenty nine Arizona Carolina took Vernon Butler and at thirty 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.560 one Germania. Fetti went, that's a pretty bad draft. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.679 Yeah, I mean there's like five hits, right, I mean, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.160 Wentz and Golf are fine, especially Golf, and Wentz fizzled out, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.560 but he had a he had his moment. But all 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.480 in all, and and the guys at the top weren't bad. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.680 The ram the top ten was right right right. The 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.320 blue chip guys were pretty obvious both so you know, 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.679 those guys all had good careers, but. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.000 Not a great group. Chris Jones went in the second 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.400 round that year, which brings me to the defensive tackle 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.960 stuff like this is a good This was an above 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.439 average defensive tackle. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.319 Draft rankins, and I mean there were guys that were 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.080 good prospects, whether they pan out or I. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.839 Mean a Shawn Robinson went in the second round, Jaron 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:40.800 Reid went in the secondround. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.160 These guys are still around. Those Bama guys last Yeah, but. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.160 You know, a lot of the high profile positions wide receiver, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.280 quarterback kind of a. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:56.320 Kind of fizz. So, I mean it's hard to compare 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.960 classes because they're not ever going to be Apple's d app right, 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:02.319 but there are trends and like, I think we'll look 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.640 at last year's and say, this might be one of 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.320 the best quarterback classes ever. I mean, I know it's 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.760 early and some of those guys careers will go south. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.760 But the fact that there was tackles too, I mean, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:18.080 the premium positions last year and you know Roma Duneesa 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.520 is your third receiver, yeah, Harrison and Neighbors, and I 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.840 mean there was just so many good dudes that we 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.880 have a defensive player go until Dallas Turner. I mean, like, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.559 I think that'll be a historic draft. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.559 Well, and I think I think when you look at that, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.320 what can we learn from that draft? It was the 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.679 big guys who have hung around the longest. 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.960 No, yeah, even Conkland and you know, I. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.000 Mean Decker at six. I was gonna say, Okay, that's 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.600 that's good. Kelly is still still. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.520 In the league. He's had a good career. Yeah yeah, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.160 and they'll not be Hall of Famers Rankins at twelve, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.640 he's still still in the league. Kenny Clark, Clark's a 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:01.400 major success, Vernon Butler main Effetti is still in the 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.800 These guys are still in the league. Those guys hang 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.079 around even if they're not worthy of a first round pick. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.599 They end up retiring with a lot of millions in 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.640 the bank and a lot of years under their belt. Yeah. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.240 I mean the first pick of the second round was 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.080 Emmanuel Ogba. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.440 Okay, he's again, he's again career, Yeah, been around the superstars. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.080 But if they're still in the league now, they've done something. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.600 They've done something disdaining because half the guys in that 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:27.880 first round aren't still. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:28.160 In the league. 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.920 No, right, and the certainly really didn't. Yeah, I mean 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.120 there's Corey Coleman played twenty seven career games. Twenty seven. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.720 I mean, also the fifteenth pick in a draft. 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.200 I urge people to do this, I mean, go to 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.600 draftistory dot com pick pull up any draft that's kind 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.800 of in the books, but you know who's the hits, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.679 who's the missing not the last five years, and you 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.360 might be a little less critical of man Kevin Colbert's 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.800 last years were terrible, or Boys Steelers can't draft this position, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:01.719 or the draft is not isuccessful as you think. I mean, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:06.440 I'm still a huge believer in drafting being more important 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.120 than free agency, or I'd rather have draft picks than money. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.480 But I mean you look at like some of the 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:17.199 best Colbert drafts, it's still three starters, you know. I mean, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:18.600 that's a really good draft. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.720 Starters out of a draft, and I'm talking not immediate stars. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:26.160 I'm talking they end up two three, You had a 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.280 good draft. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.760 Yeah, and it doesn't quite add up. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.720 And I also think you also have to look at 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.760 the team as well, Like three starters on a team 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.960 that goes team that wins ten games as much different 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.240 than three starters on a team that goes two to fourteen. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.800 Yeah. Yeah, not to mention the team that won ten 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:44.680 to twelve games often where Kevin was picking, and you 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.680 add three starters drafting late to a team that didn't 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.480 need eighteen starters, right, you know, I mean, like some 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:53.720 of the bad, bad teams. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.200 Yeah, it's it's I. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:57.760 Mean, you have a fourth round pick that you get 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.280 four years out of in their contract and he's okay, 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:01.800 isn't a miss? 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:08.120 No? No? Paxton Lynch played five career games? Five? What 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.480 he played in? Five career games? 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.080 Really? Yeah? What does that happen? 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.720 Nobody ever felt good enough about him to make it 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:17.120 the starter. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.000 Didn't play more than that? 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:23.960 Nope, I'm just Robert and DJ played thirty eight career games. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.920 Josh Garnett, who was San Francisco's pick at twenty eight, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:29.200 played twenty five games. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.680 I say he had like the most nondescript career of 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.520 anyone in that round. Yeah, I mean, but again, I 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.400 urge people, even if you just want to do Steeler drafts, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.120 look at the last thirty of them and really look 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.320 at the picks and be like, man, the hit rate's 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:47.080 not as good as you think. Or just take twenty fifteen, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.360 twenty twenty if you want, and just look at the 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.800 first round and be like, yeah, a lot of teams missed. Yeah, 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.480 it happens, or you just get a little bit out 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.040 of them, or you know, injuries or whatever. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.120 Yeah, there's all kinds of reasons why guys fail in 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:04.080 the draft, And you know, sometimes it's not the player, 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.640 it's opportunity. Yes, you know, the scheme doesn't fit. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:10.600 Sometimes they get drafted to do one thing and then 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.200 the whole coaching staff gets fired and. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.160 That kind have happened well, and he gets erupt out 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.160 with the old But yeah, I mean I just see 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.680 some similarities there between that twenty sixteen draft and what 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:22.520 we have upcoming. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.440 No, I think you're right, and I hadn't thought of that, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 but I do think there's a chance. You see two 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:27.560 quarterbacks drafted pretty. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.200 High and a bunch of defensive linemen, a bunch. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:33.080 Of defensive linemen. The early picks seem pretty safe. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.680 And there's no receiver, which we've seen receivers go high. 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.360 I'm again Coleman went filth. That seems about the right 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.080 range for where the receivers start to go. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.600 Yeah, I mean did McMillan run yet, Yeah, it was. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.720 It was a four to four to eight on their track. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.640 Yeah, which isn't as great we yet. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.840 Which probably is four five five somewhere in that may be. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.920 And yeah, yeah, which is what he looks like. It's Okay, yeah, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.360 that's what he looks like. But people talk about him 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.200 like four to the Patriots. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:05.320 I think that's the way. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.359 I don't see that. I mean, I can't imagine. Yeah, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:09.920 I'm not sure o'b receiver one. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.199 I don't think he will be for me. I was 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.160 tearing before that. I wanted to wait and see how 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.640 he ran, because if he went out and ran a four, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.960 four to two or something in this pro dayly, Okay, 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:20.720 he's fast enough. 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.119 I didn't quite pull the trigger on flopping him in 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.800 Golden in my ranks, but they were due two weeks 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.639 ago or whatever. Yeah, next time around, I probably will. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.280 But Golden could be Coleman too. I mean, none of 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.800 them are to be superstars in my opinion. They've been 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.760 to a better class I would say than that. I 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.120 mean will Fuller and Treadwell, and I mean Treadwell was so. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.440 Josh Dockson was. Yeah, he was run fast. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.320 Ran fast, and he had like a forty eight inch 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:48.480 or not forty eight, like a forty five inch vertical 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:50.520 and they just used to throw him jump balls and 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.679 he'd go get him like crazy. At TCU eighty one 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.320 Career Catches, people caught onto that pretty quick. Eighty one 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.520 career catch couldn't get open, right, Yeah, So anyways, let's 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.080 get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.280 am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're on 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.119 the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and I'll be back with 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.040 more right after. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:16.399 This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.040 on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.959 and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.280 And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.520 the Matt Williamson. And Matt I thought, now that we're 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:36.680 a little over a week into the free. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.359 Agency period, here it feels like longer. 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.919 Let's take a look here, specifically at some of the 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:48.119 defensive tackle contracts that were signed. And you tell me 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.000