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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie, he is

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Speaker 3: Lee Matt Williamson, and uh, well, it is a much

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Speaker 3: nicer Tuesday, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lot different than this morning. I'm gon.

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Speaker 3: Wait, yesterday was yeah, it was jolly, yeah, chili and rainy,

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Speaker 3: and today it's sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Of these guys, they said, next week's supposed to gett

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Speaker 1: nasty again. Couple daysposed to be great and let's get

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Speaker 1: back to crazy.

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Speaker 3: You know what when we go to West Palm Beach

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Speaker 3: for the owners meetings, Yeah, I wanted to be bad here.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to be crappy. I wanted to be ugly,

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Speaker 3: snow all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Then we get home and it's all gone, right, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I want to be down in the you know, walking

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Speaker 3: on the beach and hanging out at the breakers.

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Speaker 1: And but that's BArch in Pittsburgh. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 1: really going to be up and down week to week

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Speaker 1: or day today. But today's awesome. I had to.

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Speaker 3: Tell so those of you who don't know I run

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Speaker 3: the baseball league in Washington, the Pony League specifically, and

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Speaker 3: my guys are I sent out my schedule. We did

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Speaker 3: all of our stuff over the weekend, had our draft

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Speaker 3: and all that stuff, and I sent up about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they start up here. And I sent my preseason practice

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Speaker 3: schedule out and the guys were like. One of the

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Speaker 3: guys was like, you didn't put a batting cage schedule

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Speaker 3: on there. I said, well, first of all, we got

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Speaker 3: to get the batting cage up.

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Speaker 1: There's no batting cage as we speak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I have the cage. We have to we

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Speaker 3: have to hang it. To hang it, it's like fifteen

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Speaker 3: a hillside. I said, I'm not going to be there

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Speaker 3: that day because that's the day we fly to West

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Speaker 3: for it. I said, I don't want you guys climbing

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Speaker 3: up there in bad weather on ladders to hang this thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there's I've done it myself by myself

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do that in the rain.

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Speaker 1: Just put it that way. Plus you know how to

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Speaker 1: do it, and they might not and they don't right, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's what you're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: This time of year, they'll be we'll have more snow.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure I can't imagine making a practice schedule

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Speaker 1: for baseball today because I'm sure I make it. Whether

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Speaker 1: they'll be, whether they get used or not is completely

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Speaker 1: up to my It's a guideline probably. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like everything, you have to have a plan.

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Speaker 1: I have a plan, and then you executed the best

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: My friend of mine runs the Mustang League, and but

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Speaker 3: ten years ago now my sons and I took my

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Speaker 3: sons and we went back and we coached a Mustang team,

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Speaker 3: which is nine to ten year olds just for fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my oldest son had just graduated college. My younger son's.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. Yeah, people don't know, right.

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Speaker 3: So we go back and we coach a Mustang team.

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Speaker 3: And a friend of mine was the league president at

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Speaker 3: the time. He does he like schedules, you all, every

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's like the whole NFL schedule.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't have any rain that spring. Now, technically

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Speaker 3: you're only supposed to practice with those kids five times.

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Speaker 1: A week or four times. He knows it up with

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Speaker 3: Some of the other guys were skipping some practices and

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Speaker 3: was going to be missing three players. No. I practiced

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Speaker 3: every single time there was a practice scheduled on there.

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Speaker 1: We practiced, okay and so and got lucky and he

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Speaker 3: We had a meeting late in the season and somebody

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Speaker 3: asked about that and he's like, how many practice you have.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, every one of them.

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Speaker 1: A whole bunch. Yeah, yeah, and we're good. Well, and

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Speaker 1: behold we won the championship. Practicing is important.

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Speaker 3: We I think we started the season off like two

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Speaker 3: much different because we practiced. Coach getting back to the point,

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Speaker 3: we stuck to the plan. Stuck the plan, we were

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Speaker 3: scheduled to practice. We practiced. If three kids showed up,

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Speaker 1: You can get some three kids better at least right, That's.

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Speaker 3: The way I saw it, and you know, hanging out

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Speaker 1: It was fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you want

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Speaker 3: So cool getting onto the show. I've seen some comparisons

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Speaker 3: Matt of this year's draft to the twenty twenty two draft,

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Speaker 3: and I don't see that refreshment.

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Speaker 1: Who's the you talking about overall? About? Okay, who's the

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two was?

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Speaker 1: I don't think of it in years. I always think

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Speaker 1: that's the Borough Draft, that's the Garrett Draft.

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Speaker 3: That's a you know, was Trayvon Walker, Aiden Hutchinson got

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Speaker 3: two picks, no quarterback in that Kenny Pickett went twenty

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Speaker 3: first or twentieth, which is where he was slated to go. Folks,

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Speaker 3: somebody on the message board today from yesterday's show talked about, well,

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett was overdrafted. Nobody GMS have said that he

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Speaker 3: was a third round pick. That's not what the pre

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Speaker 3: draft stuff saying. No, go back and look google it right,

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Speaker 3: google twenty twenty two pre draft rankings, and Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: Somewhere. Oh yeah, everybody had him right right right, I

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Speaker 1: mean he was not a premier.

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Speaker 3: In fact, a lot of people also had Malik Willis there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So it was a shock on draft day

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Speaker 1: how few right went when they were, when they went,

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Speaker 1: when they went. But this draft is not that, No,

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Speaker 3: I think it wasn't a top ten pick, although some

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Speaker 1: Right right right? The first quarterback, I mean quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it's more like the twenty sixteen draft

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Speaker 3: where goff and Wentz went number one and two. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Bosa went three, and then Ramsey, Ezekiel Elliott, Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: I might like those non quarterbacks better than this group. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Paxton Lynch was the next guy. He went at twenty six,

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Speaker 3: which I could see happening this year.

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Speaker 1: And even goff and Wentz, like several months before the draft,

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Speaker 1: Wentz was not a household name or considered even a

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Speaker 1: surefire first run North Dakota state guy, right right, I

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Speaker 1: mean it was Senior Bowl, it was the process, and Okay,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he got pushed up artificially. I mean,

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Speaker 1: little behind, of course, But I also think that Goff

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Speaker 1: isn't the first pick in every draft, that the prospect.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't special Town, special Town. He wasn't a super

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Speaker 3: But you got a running back up there, You're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a Ezekiel up Elliott versus genty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, in that neighborhood, right, that's comparable a couple of

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Speaker 1: tackles that Carter versus Bosas in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Jack Conklin was strictly a right tackle. Does he go

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't have last year tackle he went eight over

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Speaker 3: A bunch of edge rusher's cornerbacks, you know those kind

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Speaker 3: of guys. Laramie Tunsall went thirteenth. But there was a

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Speaker 1: That was a mask incidence, you know, that was frowned

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Speaker 1: upon then a little more than nowadays. Yeah, but he

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Speaker 1: would have went high.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I see what you did there.

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Speaker 1: That was an accident.

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Speaker 3: But also with the wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: Kay, who's in that club?

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Speaker 3: The first wide receiver taken that year was Corey cole

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Speaker 3: at the Coleman year, Corey Coleman at fifteen. The Browns

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Speaker 3: could have taken any receive. It was a it was

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Speaker 3: a bad, bad receiver draft. They took Corey Coleman fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: That's like Will Fuller.

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Speaker 3: Will Fuller went twenty first, Josh Doson went twenty second,

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Speaker 3: all terrible, Laklan Treadwell went twenty third.

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Speaker 1: One thing like I always talk about and kind of joke,

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Speaker 1: but maybe someday they'll do it. There'll be a book

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Speaker 1: of NFL scouting history there. That was an era where

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Speaker 1: the spread offenses and the Yeah, like Corey Coleman ran

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Speaker 1: stand there, yeah, and they'd hold up a Mickey Mouse

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Speaker 1: just knew that he was fast with size and made

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Speaker 1: and Treadwell had some of that, and so did one

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Speaker 1: of the other receivers he's matched it. I forget which

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Speaker 1: one it was not full Er. Fuller was just fast.

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Speaker 3: Docks and was the other thoughts it was like that too, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the TCU, all those guys out of those Mickey Mouse offenses.

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Speaker 1: Big twelve put up fifty points a game. The league

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Speaker 1: didn't know how to handle them.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking here, Sterling Shepherd in the second round.

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Speaker 1: He might have been the best receiver in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, Michael Thomas was the second round pick, Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: which shows you how quickly he fizzled.

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Speaker 1: Like, well, his problem was he didn't run fast enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he ran like a four or five seven.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Tyler Boyd was in that draft, Okay, So I

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Speaker 3: mean there were some receivers in that draft who had success,

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Speaker 3: but the first round guys didn't.

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Speaker 1: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Just looking at that first surround overall, golf and Wentz

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Speaker 3: went one and two, Bosa was three.

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Speaker 1: Which way I thought you were going with this is

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Speaker 1: Sanders might not be the second or third best player

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Speaker 1: in this draft, but I think there's a chance he

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Speaker 1: goes two or three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, right, Ezekiel Elliott went four, Jalen Ramsey five,

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Speaker 3: Ronnie Stanley six to Forrest Buckner.

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Speaker 1: Seven, Jennipede a real good pick.

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Speaker 3: Jack Conklin went eighth, Leonard Floyd nine, Eli Apple ten.

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Speaker 3: Eli Apple was a top ten pickings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ohio State looks apart, ran.

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Speaker 3: Well, still in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I mean he never even had a good year.

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Speaker 3: Vernon Hargreaves at eleven.

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Speaker 1: He was a cover two guy. It didn't run well.

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Speaker 3: Sheldon Rankins at twelve.

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Speaker 1: Still in the league and it is okay, but not special.

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Speaker 3: Tonsa at thirteen would have went much higher, of course.

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Speaker 3: Carl Joseph at fourteen. Fifteen was Coleman. Sixteen was Taylor Decker.

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Speaker 3: there's Corey Coleman played twenty seven career games. Twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, not to mention the team that won ten

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Speaker 3: No? No? Paxton Lynch played five career games? Five? What

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Speaker 1: No, I think you're right, and I hadn't thought of that,

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Speaker 3: I'm again Coleman went filth. That seems about the right

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive. You're on

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson. And Matt I thought, now that we're

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Speaker 1: Right, Because I assume you bring this up because I

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Speaker 3: One page keeps reloading on me here.

437
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes there's like it's a little goofy jumping out

438
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Speaker 1: of pop ups. Yeah, I think it's all the pop ups.

439
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: Uh So, the next one on.

440
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 3: Here is is Milton Williams. Four years, one hundred and

441
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: four million dollars with the Patriots. That's like twenty seven

442
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: per which is twenty six twenty six. I was thinking

443
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: he was at twenty seven. It wasn't doing mathll twenty

444
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 3: six million dollars for Milton Williams, who again, good player.

445
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a great player, A sending player. I like

446
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: him a lot. I mean, he was a phenomenal tester

447
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: that you knew was going to be a project. They

448
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: developed him along and basically him and Jordan Davis would

449
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: swap opposite Carter who never came on the field, and

450
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 1: Williams is worth and is better than Davis and his

451
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: skill sets harder to find.

452
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 3: Twenty six million a year better.

453
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: They just won a Super Bowl, so you get a

454
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 1: little bump for that, But no, like I mean, if

455
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm the Steelers, I'm not giving him twenty six million.

456
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: And the thing is, though the Patriots had to spend

457
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: on something. I mean, they still one hundred million dollars

458
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: cash pace them. But a right, right, I don't even know.

459
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: It's a bad signing for them. You couldn't even no,

460
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: oh no, no, Steelers couldn't dromp that. I don't know.

461
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen, good player, good player, three years, sixty million dollars.

462
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much that's guaranteed. Thirty one and

463
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: deceending a nice pickup at fourteen or fifteen.

464
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: Right, which is what it probably should have been.

465
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: To your thirty five with twenty guaranteed or something like that. Okay,

466
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: but that's a pretty big commitment to a guy that Washington. Well,

467
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: this is kind of a side note. Maybe we'll get

468
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: to them. Washington cuts them and signs a worst player,

469
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: we'll get to it. Which I think is one of

470
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: the worst deals in the in all free agency.

471
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 3: Tershawn Wharton signed with the Panthers three years, forty five

472
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: million dollars. They thought they had Milton Williams, right, and

473
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: the Patriots came in and said, oh no, we're gonna

474
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: here's some more money.

475
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: Just take whatever you want. We need to get to whoever.

476
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: Kirshawn Wharton fifteen million dollars. Ye were pretty average guy

477
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Steelers are paying. That's basically what the Steelers are paying

478
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: Cam Heyward.

479
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: And they're not even close to one another.

480
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: Grady Jarrett. Grady Jarrett got cut by Atlanta and signed

481
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: a three year, forty three point five million dollar deal

482
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: to go to the Bears.

483
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: There's no way he's all three. No, she probably knows that.

484
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: But he's a declining player. I mean, that's like the

485
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: worst pass rushing team in the league that cuts you,

486
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: and that's your special He hasn't been good in the

487
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: last two years, right, I mean he's the guy that

488
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: relives on quickness and leverage and he just doesn't get

489
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: off the ball like he used to.

490
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: And you know, Javon Hargrave two years, thirty million dollars

491
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: is thirty two coming off of torn That.

492
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: Doesn't say he's older than you think, folks, And he's

493
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: coming off a major injury. And the end.

494
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: I would have been interested in bringing yeah, Javon Hargrave back,

495
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: but not at fifteen million a year.

496
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: I gonna say twelve. I'd consider it, but again, I

497
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: don't know that he's a difference maker. Now. It'd be

498
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: a nice piece, but is he a build a round

499
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: type of guy? Definitely not.

500
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson.

501
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bad one too.

502
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 3: Two years, twenty nine million dollars. Yeah, again, you released

503
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: Oagun Joby. The Steelers released Ogunjobi because his camp it

504
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: was thirteen million, right, right, These guys are blowing by that.

505
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: That's right. He's only a run stuffer and wasn't much

506
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: a one last year. Right. Other than that, usually those

507
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: guys hang around and last. But you're also usually like

508
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: five million just to rent the run stuffer.

509
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know JN Reid, who's like thirty four years old, he.

510
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: Kind of always just hangs around. Yeah.

511
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: Two years, twenty two million dollars.

512
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: It's bad. It's not a truck, it's not.

513
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: It's not like some of these other ones.

514
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: Right, he'll get you three sacks a year. Yeah, he'll

515
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: have some moments. It'll be with another team in a year,

516
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: you know.

517
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: BJ Hill re signed with the Bengals three years, thirty

518
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 3: three million dollars.

519
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: He was more of the problem than the answer last year. Again,

520
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: he's not terrible. I mean he would start for most

521
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: teams kind of yeah. I mean like you'd be sixty

522
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: percent snap guy for most teams and you'd try to

523
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: draft over right, That's that's what he is.

524
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 3: An affords that one. I like, he's a very specific

525
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: time kind of right, right right. I got three years

526
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 3: twenty seven point six million dollars from the Rams.

527
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: That's actually kind of funny to me because myself included,

528
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: the league has been prejudiced against Punaford for as he's

529
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: he's just tall, but he's really hard to block. And

530
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I looked at like the Chargers d tackles last year

531
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: at this time, like who are these guys? And they

532
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: played well because.

533
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: He didn't necessarily fit in the Steelers defense.

534
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he would be a fit here at all. Right,

535
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's a Rams Upfield's free right right, right,

536
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: He's use him like fist, right, But it's a nice

537
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: pickup for them. That's a contract I understand.

538
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: At least DJ Jones.

539
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: He was a name a pre or pre free agency

540
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: I said, at the right price, I would consider him

541
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: at like eight million.

542
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: Three years thirty nine mob right, that's not the right price.

543
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: No, all he does is stuff to run, and he's

544
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: good at it. But I thought, eh, you know, you

545
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: can then groom a nose or whatever.

546
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, dream Aunt Jones one year, ten million dollars and.

547
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: A year ago Seeattle or two years ago Seattle signed

548
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: him to huge money which you never lived up to.

549
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: They cut him. He's not hard to find either. Uh.

550
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: Malik Collins got two years twenty million dollars from the Browns.

551
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure. Well, they're so light on the

552
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: D line. They had a dad something, but he's another.

553
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are rent the players. I mean,

554
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: these are all you know, you borrow have him for

555
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: a year or two.

556
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: Jawan Kinlaw that's the worst one. Three years, forty five

557
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: million dollars for a below average player.

558
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: I would average. I don't think he's a starter, yeah,

559
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: I mean I would be very uncomfortable with him as

560
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: a starter. Former first round pick with crazy tools, I

561
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: mean like super long armed, six six, first guy off

562
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: the bus, but not really good at football.

563
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: Now, maybe he was miscast in their defense, and you know,

564
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: but he was missed.

565
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: He was miscast with the Niners and the Jets because

566
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: this is a third team, yeah, you know, and the

567
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: project isn't projecting yet. I think that's one of the

568
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: worst contracts in free agency, to be honest with you.

569
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: It's I mean, some of these other guys in are

570
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, you're looking at some one year deals, two

571
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: year deals, but it's less than ten million. But they're

572
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: also less than ten million dollar year players.

573
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: And that's in a off season where everyone knows the

574
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: dtackle draft classes is much better than ever, I mean,

575
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: much better than average for sure too, you know, and

576
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: they're still handing out those deals. And I don't think

577
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: there's a shortage of those guys, Like there is tackles

578
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: like I understand Dan Moore's deal or Jalen Moore's deal

579
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: even more than half of those. Where am I going?

580
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: Where other tackles I have to pick from? All those guys.

581
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: You can kind of shake them up and put them

582
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: in a bag. And if I got one of them

583
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: and be like, okay, you know, it'd be the Ogunjobi

584
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: Roll or whatever.

585
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Fifteen million years right right right?

586
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: I mean, like they're not special though, well, I mean

587
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: the bill's hard to find.

588
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: The Bills signed Oguin Jobi one year, eight point three

589
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: million dollars without knowing that he's going to be suspended

590
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: for this first six months.

591
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were a little hasty, I think too. I

592
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: mean he got picked up like I felt quick second

593
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: after the Wheelers let him go. Right. Some of his

594
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: stuff's injury too. Yeah, he has a history, but that's

595
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys really, that's true too. He's

596
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: not alone on that at all.

597
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of these guys have something.

598
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: I mean, you played ten years in the league, of

599
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 3: course you're gonna have some stuff that's happened.

600
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: And he's not like Hardgrave coming off a major injury,

601
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, like last time we saw him, or he

602
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: missed significant time and didn't come back and show us yet.

603
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: You know now that market's kind of yucky shopping right.

604
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: There, Kalais Campbell was still there.

605
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: He's real unique though, Yeah, I mean I wonder if

606
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: he would even say yes to half the team's out

607
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: there or is he contemplating retirement.

608
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: They can choose where he wants to go otherwise, and.

609
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: He probably could be like I'll do it after mini

610
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: camp and into training camp and whenever I feel.

611
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: Like it, right, Rakwon Davis is still out there, just

612
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: a guy. De Marcus Walker h fought Casey.

613
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: It was interesting three years ago. Yeah.

614
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Austin Johnson the same thing.

615
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: He was interesting, yeah three years ago, right, I mean

616
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: some of those guys going off their first contract were interesting.

617
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: John Jenkins, Benito Jones, right, like, this is where you're

618
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: you know, this is what it is now.

619
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: One name and this goes back to our long conversation

620
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: yesterday about free agency is getting harder and harder to

621
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: improve your team. The Raiders kept their nose tackle type.

622
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: He's not a big name, dude, I forget him. I

623
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: think Walkers is his last name. I can't remember off

624
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: the top of my head. But he's a quality player

625
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: that they didn't go crazy to keep. They signed him

626
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: right before free agency stuck around. He's gonna be next

627
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: to Wilkins. He'll give you three or four sacks a game,

628
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: and he's a loaded to move in the run game.

629
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Ye mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, right, all right,

630
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: And there's a couple Butler, Yes, Butler.

631
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: He had three years, sixteen and a half million, so okay, right, yeah,

632
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: at five and a half million a year, Okay.

633
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 1: Right, and say that's that's the kind of deal. That's

634
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the kind of deal. I was like, Oh, that makes sense.

635
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: If he would have hit the open market, I would

636
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: have given him that.

637
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: But not if he'd hit the open market in this market,

638
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: he'd probably.

639
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: Gets what I'm saying, right, he would have got.

640
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: Three years twenty five right, right?

641
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: Right? Twelve per right? Yeah, because he's got good tape,

642
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: he's not crazy old.

643
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: You know, he's probably looking disc one. I might fire

644
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: my agent.

645
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: I think there's an ampule of those guys I keep

646
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: coming back to. Uh, I'm bad with names right now,

647
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: the Alaric Jackson, the left tackle for the Rams. If

648
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't sign before free agency, and he's gonna get

649
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: more Dan Moore, Yeah, I think he got like thirteen.

650
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's he got way less than Dan Moore.

651
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: He's better and never hit the open market.

652
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Speaker 3: Let's let's take a look at that market, because we

653
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Speaker 3: both agree that the Steelers should be in that market somewhere.

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Speaker 3: This guy's still out there. Cam Robinson.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure why on him. I mean, at least

656
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Speaker 1: he could play, and he's been a starter in two places.

657
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: Has not more money than probably an injury.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying name when

659
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: she give him twenty, but I'm shocked that he hasn't

660
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: latched on somewhere Jedrick Wills. That interests me. But there

661
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: might be going on more. There might be more going

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Speaker 1: on there. I know him and the Browns that are

663
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: falling out, and he was kind of a healthy scratch

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Speaker 1: at the end.

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Speaker 3: Well they said he was a healthy scratch. He had

666
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Speaker 3: an injury before that. Did he have surgery?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And I think he had an injury

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00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: like a year or two ago, and his play has

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: dropped since that point. But he's a high pedigree ninth

670
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: pick in the draft type of guy that if he

671
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Speaker 1: wants to play for three million a year, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is that I don't even know what what you'd offer him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either. Yeah, he's not He probably doesn't

674
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Speaker 3: want to come in though, to compete for a job.

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Speaker 1: No. I want him as a third guy, right, I

676
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Speaker 1: mean ideally, and I don't mind spend, but.

677
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Speaker 3: He probably thinks he's still a starter.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere probably, and from what I remember, he's one of

679
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Speaker 1: those right tackle. What Bama moved the left tackle in

680
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: the pros. So if he's your Steeler third guy, could

681
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: he do both? But is he willing to do both?

682
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Do you think he's better than he is? He might?

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Speaker 3: You know Tyron Smith left tackle only, he's he's class Campbell,

684
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: class CAMPB right if he wants to play well. And

685
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Speaker 3: George Fant he's been on one.

686
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Speaker 1: Hundred teams in around the league a million. He's right

687
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Speaker 1: tackle only.

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00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 3: I think Joseph Noteboom not the worst thing I ever

689
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: heard be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think he's played both, but

691
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Speaker 1: I know he has left tackle experience. I mean he's

692
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: he's better than some of those I'm not making fun

693
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: a little Raven Clark, but you know they've picked up

694
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: those guys hanging around forever. No, Boom's better than that

695
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: level play.

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00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dylan Reddens physical. He was visiting somebody to Seattle.

697
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: He's really scheme specific. Yeah, he moves well. I mean

698
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: if you're on a lot of outside zone, which the

699
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Steelers do, but he's not real physical. He's lean.

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Speaker 3: Jermainea Fetti, he was in that draft class we were

701
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: just talking to.

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Speaker 1: We just talked around forever. He's a mercer rider at

703
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: this point too. Yeah, he'll be in the league. But

704
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: that just screams what the the O lion short is

705
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: is going on right now?

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00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: Kendall Lamb mhmm. And the last guy on here is

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Speaker 3: Landon Young.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that is.

709
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 3: But some of the guys, some of these contracts, these

710
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Speaker 3: guys have signed, like Morgan Moses got three years, twenty

711
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: four million dollars Patrick McCarry.

712
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Speaker 1: I actually think that's fine.

713
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Speaker 3: Three years thirty seven and a half million dollars for

714
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Speaker 3: Patrick McCary, who he might not be a tackle, he's

715
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: older than you think. Yeah, Josh Jones got one year,

716
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: four million. Dan Skipper resign with the Lions one one

717
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: year for one point three Kelvin Beacham still getting four

718
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: million dollars a year.

719
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Speaker 1: Great for Yeah, he's not like the other ones where

720
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: it's like he's just sticking around. He's no good. He's

721
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: had a good career.

722
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Speaker 3: The Browns signed Cornelius Lucas two years, six point five million.

723
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Speaker 1: These ones don't bother me as well. Yeah, I mean

724
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: they're three million. I mean just because you have to

725
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: have a tackle backup.

726
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: James Hudson got twelve million over two years with the Giants.

727
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: There's so much good tape out there.

728
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: Matt Pert resigned with the Broncos two year, seven million dollars.

729
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: Chuma Edgua a Dogu, I should say, signed with the

730
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 3: Jags two years, seven million dollars. Larry Borham still hanging around.

731
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: He got two point five from the Dolphins. But at

732
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Speaker 3: the top of that.

733
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Speaker 1: I mean, the top stuff's crazy, you know.

734
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Speaker 3: Twenty million, yeah, Jaylaen Moore got fifteen, Moses got eight.

735
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Speaker 1: Like, I'm cool with that, just because it's the Patriots

736
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: and they had to spend their money. It's kind of

737
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: Milt Williams conversation. At least give me I'm gonna draft

738
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Speaker 1: o line like crazy, give me the adult in the

739
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Speaker 1: room that comes to work every day or right tackle.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, Alaric Jackson three years fifty seven

741
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: point seven to five million before free agency started, he

742
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: could have gotten well over twenty.

743
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Speaker 1: Oh he left twenty on the on the table over

744
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, easily easily, probably be twenty guaranteed. It's

745
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: just not a good pool to be You never want

746
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: to shop in shopping it right, and I know it

747
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like much, but like when you assign Thornhill

748
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: or even one more d lineman like they have a

749
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: couple of these small signings they've made lately might allow

750
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: you to draft a third or fourth round tackle that

751
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: you hadn't planned one before, you know, and then you

752
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: don't ever shop in those waters, right, you just keep

753
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: don't keep me out of those waters. There's sharks everywhere.

754
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: In his watch and they just keep churning those guys,

755
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, seem maybe.

756
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: One of them turned to a guard or you know,

757
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: right any yesterday, some of them might be your sixth

758
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 1: lineman for four plays a game.

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00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 3: Okay, play a lot in the preseason. Absolutely, But let's

760
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Speaker 3: get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I

761
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back with

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: more right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 2: Black and Gold cast in Steeler. There's Nation Radio.

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00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: And welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with the Matt Williamson.

768
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: And there are other podcasts out there, Oh yeah, there's plenty.

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00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: Back in the day when there was like Mining and

770
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: two others back in the day, and what the heck's

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Speaker 1: a podcast?

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00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, Cam Hayward has his own podcast, Not Just

773
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: Football with Cam Hayward, And today he said that he

774
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: just wants this quarterback situation. He's kind of like the

775
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: rest of us, just ask the quarterback situation to be

776
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: done one way or the other and doesn't he's ready

777
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: to move on.

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00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously that ties into Aaron Rodgers. I mean,

779
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: that's no secret at this point. And to me, Aaron

780
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Rodgers has every right to take as long as he wants. Short.

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00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: He's making a lifetime decision, no question.

782
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: He might.

783
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: He could retire, he done.

784
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: He could walk the earth. Yeah, you know, whatever he

785
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: wants to do. The pulp fiction reference for our friend

786
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: Justin who finally jumped on board. Yeah, so if he

787
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: wants to roam the earth, do whatever you want. If

788
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: you want to throw footballs for the Vikings or Giants,

789
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: you're allowed whatever. But there's also a courtesy involved too,

790
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: and other people are obviously waiting on you. Both can

791
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: be true, right, you know, And frankly he shouldn't care

792
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: what me, you and our listeners think, but it makes

793
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: it easier for a new team to move on if

794
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: they have answers sooner than later. I mean, this is

795
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: a moving train, as we always say. And I don't

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00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: know exactly what.

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Speaker 3: Camp say, and I didn't understand. We're eight days in

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: the free really not even eight day which seems like

799
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 3: tomorrow will be the first week officially a free agency. Wait,

800
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: everybody gets excited about the early signing period. That's you know,

801
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 3: the early right tampering period. Free agency didn't start until

802
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: four o'clock.

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00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: On I'm the late years eight days old. Yeah, which

804
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: you put it that way, it's like six years old,

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: six or six years old, right right, And you put

806
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: it that way, it's like, what are we all in

807
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: a huff about? But twenty nine teams have their quarterback

808
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: and there's a couple that don't. And I don't even know.

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00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: If it's twenty nine, I would say, I'm giants. I

810
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: would say, is a no, Steelers don't.

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Speaker 3: Giants don't. The Steelers don't, the Titans don't, the Browns

812
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Speaker 3: the mite.

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00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: I was giving the Titans credit just to say that

814
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: he's in college right.

815
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Speaker 3: Now as we sit here right now, they do not

816
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: have No, they don't. They're not going back to what

817
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: they have.

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00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: No, but their world's a little different because they have

819
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: their choice of the litter from the still draft. But

820
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: right as we sit here right now, but right, yeah,

821
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: and they need to know. I mean it's because at

822
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: that position, it's not I don't have my left guard.

823
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, nobody's doing anything right now, right things.

825
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: There are no football type activities going on other than

826
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: guys training on their own. Right OTAs don't start for

827
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: If Rogers would assigned to the Steelers or Giants or

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00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: whatever five days ago, yeah, he'd have their iPad and

830
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: their playbook and he'd be learning, and maybe he'd be

831
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: in touch with Pickens and metcalf or come up for

832
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: a throwing session or maybe who knows, Or maybe he'd

833
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: be on vacation, you know, which is also perfectly fine,

834
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: because there's not They have busy lives too. I mean

835
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Speaker 1: they're allowed to vacation. They have millions of dollars they

836
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: can spend however they want, et cetera. No, you're right,

837
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's not he's not in Egypt in doing

838
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: mini camp or whatever, and there's no reason to even

839
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: get mad at him. He is every right in the world.

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Speaker 3: He's making a decision right, right, this is do I

841
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 3: want to play another year? Do you want to play

842
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: for this team? Do want to play for that team? Fine?

843
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: But what none on the above right, And it's a

844
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Speaker 1: big decision now.

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00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 3: One of the things that is out there I think

846
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: there's a misconception about, and it involves Russell Wilson and

847
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: his joining of the Steelers. Last year, I wrote a

848
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: big story on this that was ended up being a

849
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Speaker 3: program piece for one of the one of the games.

850
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Speaker 3: And so I talked to Russell Wilson, I talked to

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Speaker 3: Cam Heyward, I talked to t J. Watt, I talked

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Speaker 3: to Minka Fitzpatrick about the process a year ago at

853
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: this time, how did that take place? I think there

854
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: was a perception out there that Watt and Hayward and

855
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick all called Russell Wilson to recruit him to be

856
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Speaker 3: a Steeler. That's not what happened. He called them to

857
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: let them know that he a wanted to join the

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00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: Steelers because and be he wasn't coming in here to

859
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Speaker 3: take over the locker room or anything like that. He

860
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Speaker 3: wanted to he wanted to be a part of this

861
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Speaker 3: because he thought they had a chance to win and

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Speaker 3: I don't know, and he wanted to call the team

863
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: leaders too.

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Speaker 1: Did the Steelers reach out to him before that or

865
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Speaker 1: don't you know? They had?

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Speaker 3: They had spoken which and before he made a decision

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Speaker 3: whether he came here or not, he reached out to

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Speaker 3: those guys. Hayward told me that he spent over an

869
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Speaker 3: hour on the phone with Russell Wilson just talking and

870
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: they had a relationship with Walter Payton, Man of the Year.

871
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: They all know each other now I mean water agents.

872
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Watt and Wilson are both Wisconsin guys, so they

873
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: had cross paths at different times, so they talked make ahead.

874
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't as long of a talk as he had

875
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: with Hayward. Yeah, yeah, and the same thing with Micking Fitzpatrick.

876
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't a long talk, but he talked to said, Hey,

877
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm just coming in to be one of the guys,

878
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: so I would have call him though.

879
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: You might have a better feel for this than me,

880
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: But Fields isn't the oldest guy out there, but I'm

881
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: sure he has somebody he knows on the Jets and yeah,

882
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: where he put.

883
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Star wide receiver.

884
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you think that had something to

885
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: do with him signing there, You don't think he reached

886
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: out to Garrett Wilson.

887
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: Think they talked a little bit.

888
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I was going kind of a different direction.

889
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: But if you're Rogers or Wilson and you've been around

890
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: the league as long as them, you're absolutely calling the

891
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: team leaders, even if you've never speaken to Minka or

892
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Watt in your life, Like, hey, it's Aaron you know.

893
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met you at the Pro Bowl three years ago.

894
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: Right right? Or my agent gave me your number, you know, I.

895
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 3: Mean, or maybe a shareon agent.

896
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know exactly. And they can get in

897
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: touch with each other. I've been around the block. How's

898
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: life there? How close do you think you are? Let's

899
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: be honest with me and you know, and that's what

900
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: they should do.

901
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: But I don't. That's not happening right now with Aaron

902
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: Rodgers all because Heyward said he said, I ain't doing

903
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: no darkness retreat. I don't need any of that crap.

904
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 3: Either you want to be a Pittsburgh Steeler or you don't.

905
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: That's simple. That's the pitch. If you want to be

906
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: if you want me to recruit. That's the recruiting pitch

907
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be a part of it,

908
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 3: so be it. If you don't, no skin off my back.

909
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, Aaron, we don't want you

910
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: or I hate you. Absolutely, people were.

911
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: Taking it that right, he says. No, he's saying, Look,

912
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: we're the Pittsburgh Steelers. If you want to be a

913
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 3: part of what we got here, sign up for it.

914
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: If you don't, you want to go to the Giants,

915
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: you want to go to the Vikings, wherever you want

916
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: to go, fine, that's your choice.

917
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: But we're pretty transparent organization. We've been doing things this

918
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: way and it's been successful. And if that's not something

919
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: you're going to be a part of, so be it.

920
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Move on. But we need to know, we need to

921
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: know that's a thing. Again. Rogers has every right to

922
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 1: take this months if he wants, but the Steelers also

923
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: have every right to say, hey, if you don't tell

924
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: me by the end of the week, we'd we're done.

925
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: Because moving train.

926
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 3: It's a moving train, and they want to they want

927
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: to know.

928
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: They gotta know.

929
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: We get asked about this all time. How many times

930
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 3: you think Cam Hayward gets asked who the Steelers quarterback

931
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: is going to be, right right, and he doesn't know.

932
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anybody knows.

933
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Nor one person knows what's in his mind, and that's

934
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Yan Rodgers.

935
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: And he still might hasn't apparently not made his mind up.

936
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: Do you think he take the Vikings though, over the

937
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Steelers or Giants. I don't see the Giants of the Steelers.

938
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: It's just money, yeah, And he doesn't want to move

939
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: his house or whatever. The Vikings won to me is

940
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: kind of weird.

941
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: I don't see it because at some point the Vikings

942
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: are going to want to play the tenth overall.

943
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Pick in last year, right right? I mean like if

944
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: I were him and I thought I could definitely make

945
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: a case that I have a better chance to win

946
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: sure there than here. Not the Giants obviously, and it's

947
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: an appealing situation. It's a throwing justin. Jefferson looks great.

948
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: You know, you're very familiar with the division and you've

949
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: played against that organization eight thousand times. I just don't

950
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: know that the Vikings are really equipped to do that,

951
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: or to rock a boat with his personality when you

952
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: put him on the bench eventually, or I don't know.

953
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: I just like he's gonna come in a mentor he's

954
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: not exactly known for the quarterback of the future who

955
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: you drafted tenth overall last year. Now, maybe McCarthy's injuries

956
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: not healed as well as we thought. That would be

957
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: concerning to me.

958
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: But they haven't done anything like they could have kept Daniel.

959
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: Jones said, But why you would just give Daniel Jones

960
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: that opportunity or Darnold for that reason, right, they could

961
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: have done franchised.

962
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: They could have done either of those things, and they

963
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: chose not to. And oh, by the wa we spent

964
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 3: like drunken sailors in free agency.

965
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, because since then they've spent so much.

966
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: Now you're you gonna spend again on Rogers. I don't know.

967
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: That's why it doesn't quite add up, because if you

968
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: were super concerned about his injury, slap the franchise tag

969
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: on Donald.

970
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: You know, we're make Daniel Jones an offer. He can't

971
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: refuge like Daniel you were here, you're our guy.

972
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Speaker 1: You've been around right right, you know, I don't know

973
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: if Minnesota is real. I think the Giants are very real.

974
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones leaving tells me that they think he's going

975
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: to be ready for the start of the season.

976
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Speaker 1: I assume.

977
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: So Otherwise, Daniel Jones just sticks around, says, I'm going

978
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: to be the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. I

979
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 3: got Jefferson, I've got this. I can go out there

980
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: and be the next Sam Donald, even if it's over.

981
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: My first six starts of the year look great with

982
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: these guys, and then they benched me for McCartney. Okay,

983
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 3: but I put six games of good tape out there

984
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: with good Yeah.

985
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'd rather compete with McCarthy, even if it's

986
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: a tougher test than Richardson or if McCarthy.

987
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: If McCarthy, let's say he's he's not ready six weeks

988
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: into the season. If I'm Daniel Jones, I'm going to

989
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: get all the training camp snaps, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

990
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: Whereas in Indianapolis, you're getting fifty.

991
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: I'mna have to split him at best, and you're gonna lose.

992
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: The tie and then and then, yeah, you're gonna lose

993
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: the tie. And they might want to give Richardson more

994
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: just because like.

995
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: He's our guys, he's the he's the Freedom Rep's like crazy,

996
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: we don't start taking them away then you might. We

997
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: don't know anything to you, yeah, other than this contract.

998
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah him.

999
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: We use the fourth overall pick in the draft for Yeah.

1000
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: I think any way you spin it, you'd rather go

1001
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: to Minnesota than Indy if you're Daniel.

1002
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: Jones, which tells me that that Minnesota feels like McCarthy's

1003
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: going to be okay.

1004
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Rogers Park doesn't add up. It

1005
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: would if they wouldn't have spent on all those linemen

1006
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: in the last week. Now. I don't know how you

1007
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: swing it, you know. Yeah.

1008
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Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

1009
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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lawy. You're listening to the Drive here

1010
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