1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ, Buck 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: with you and bringing on our good buddy to join 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: us today. Brock, you or Brock? What is going on? Man? 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: This is kind of fun DJ. You know, for two 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: years it's reversal. You come on my show every Wednesday 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: or Tuesday. We kind of move it around up in Seattle. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: You join if I remember, if I remember, no, no, 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: they've only been a couple of those, a couple of those. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: So it's kind of fun to be on the other 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: end of this. So receiving and so look forward to it. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Good to see you Buck, Good. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Seeing you Brock. Long time, long time. Yeah, he's had 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: he's spoiled man. Like you know, I feel I'm with 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: Bucky's a Dodger fan, so he just wins every year. Now, 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Brock's up in the sports capital of the world right now. 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: They got baseball, they got football, they're you know, kind 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: of crushing it up there. But uh, Brock, one reason 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on is because to me, 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are a fascinating study. We always 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: talk about team building and you know, scouting and trying 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: to make this whole matrix come together and work, and 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: it seems like they have long had the right general manager. 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: We've known John for a long time. Bucky's been around 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: in more than I have, but there's, you know, tremendous 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: respect for him around the league. Tell I want to 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: learn more about about coach McDonald and how this thing, 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: how this marriage has worked with those two guys, and 28 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: how he's been able to be a perfect fit there. 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what John said, uh, just on and 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: off the record over the years in that process of 31 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: hiring Mike was and it's a business termy here and 32 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: it's popular and everybody loves to use that in the 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: terms of disruptor. He's a disruptor. And there were a 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: lot of folks and a lot of his buddies McVeigh 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: and Shanahan and the folks in the NFC and let's 36 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 2: need and the rest of them were like, come on, John, 37 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: you know, hire the next hied Liam, you know, hire 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: the next Kevin O'Connell, Hire the next offense guy, hired 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: somebody from our tree, you know, have them try to 40 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: tangle with us. And I just think John knew that 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: in this division to try to handle in the division that, 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: by the way, has just been unbelievable this season. He 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: just knew that in order to tackle Shanahan and McVeigh 44 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: that he was going to have to disrupt the operation 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: and disrupt their operation and do it with somebody that 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: I think in many ways from a process. The more 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: time I spend with Mike, I've always been around offensive guys. 48 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: I was an offensive guy, right, and he does the 49 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: exact same thing, but on the defensive side. And you know, 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: you guys would have loved this. I asked him one 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: time in one of our Monday mornings that we interview 52 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: him every week, and I said, do you do you 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: approach it like Gary Patterson used to approach it at TCU, 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: where you try to defeat every play, because I get 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: a sense that Ye're more about defeating that play caller 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: in that play than it is we just run our 57 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: system or just a quarter system, or we just run 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, Camp two. And he said, yeah, I'm probably 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: more bent that way. And he's kind of bent like 60 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: an offensive guy and play caller, but doing it from 61 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: the defensive side and doing it in a way guys 62 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: that very few in the league I think have the horsepower. 63 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: To Yeah, it's it's interesting brock Hevin watched the team 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: up close in person when they came down to Jacksonville, 65 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: being on field level, watching that defense, which is young 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 3: lett it, they're hungry, they have marquee players at key spots. 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: How has he been able to. 68 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: Take young and old, blend them together and get them 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: to play on the same page, because that's not very 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: easy to do in this league. 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: No, And I think one of the biggest surprises. And man, 72 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: we talked about this team every dale, all day, every 73 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: week and have so I don't want to, you know, 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: like get past some of the some of the details 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: or just make any assumptions. But the biggest surprise is 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. I just didn't think he had this much 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: in the tank, Bucky. Like I knew he's a great player, 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: He's a boise, he's long, he still looks like a giant. 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know that he was this good and this 80 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: good is a teammate, this good in that room, this 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: good as a player, this much just juice, chasing down plays, 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: playing like he's on a first year contract, let alone 83 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: twelve years into this league. He is an enormous force 84 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: for them defensively. And Cooper Cup offensively like those two 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: guys there. I'll use that word horsepower again. You know, 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: DeMarcus got more on the field and Cooper has left. 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: Father times definitely caught Cooper's speed and some of that, 88 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: but not his brain and not his mind and not 89 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: the way he processes and works and shares that just 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: palatable information with those guys. Those two have been just 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: enormous ads to other than that, what is a remarkably young, young, 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: young football team. 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: And your experience just been around the game as long 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: as you have the teams you've played on, the teams 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: you've been around, and then seeing this team, I'm curious 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: because talk to gms from other sports and I've had 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: a discussion about the trade deadline, and we've talked about how, look, 98 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: you have your nucleus, you have your key guys, and 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: then we like trying to find those little little pieces 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: of glue that can kind of put the whole thing together. 101 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: They did a phenomenal job with Rahiet Shihat and what 102 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: he's been able to add to this offense. But I 103 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: want to kind of couple that together with having the 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: nucleus of this roster. You mentioned Tank Lawrence and Cooper 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: cup it seems like to me, John's got a great 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: feel for finding the little pieces of glue to kind 107 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: of put this whole thing together. 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he would be the first to 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: tell you, guys. A he would shower his analytics team, 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: his scouts, his personnel department. He never makes it about John, 111 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: which I think is a bit unique and has allowed 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: him to be there for two decades through different coaches 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: and owners and presidents and everything else, because he's egoists. 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: I think he would tell you, and this is back 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: to the McDonald acquisition, he would tell you that he 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: knew he was really good, that he knew he'd be 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: a disruptor, that he knew the process and all that 118 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: was remarkable. But what he has learned over these now 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: less still less than two years together is how he 120 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: knows exactly what he wants with the grocery lists. And 121 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: you guys were in organizations, and I don't think that's 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: always the case, you know, And it's fair or unfair 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: to the Joe Shane and the Giants and watching that 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: hard Knox, which I don't think any team will ever 125 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: do again in the off season, listening to like, oh, 126 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, they hired a new decordinator, and he sat 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: in that room with all the scouts for forty minutes 128 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: and was like, I need this and I need this 129 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: and I need this. McDonald loves that stuff. That's why 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: he was at the senior ballts, why he was at 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 2: the Drought, It's why he always will be because he 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: wants to be right next to John, like, this is 133 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: what I'm looking for, this is what we need. This 134 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: is and there's a clarity there that you know. And 135 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: this is not to bash coach Carroll. He's wired differently. 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: Everyone's great, Oh Bucky could play outside, And for me, 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: look at the arms, look. 138 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: At the lane. 139 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: I'll make this guy great. I'll make everybody great. Everything's awesome. 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: Mike's not that way. It's like, no, this is what 141 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: I need, very blunt, very concise, very clear, just clear messaging. 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: And I think John would be the first to tell 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: you that those inputs are why they hit on the glue, 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: why they hit on the veterans, why they hit in 145 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 2: this draft at a rate that was remarkable this offseason. 146 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's so interesting to hear that, having worked 147 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: in Seattle under John when you were there playing, having 148 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: watched the evolution of the Seahawks, like look from Coach 149 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: Homegren to the legion to Boom to the iteration that 150 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: we have now. 151 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: I always wanted about the changes in culture. 152 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: So when you talk about Pete Carroll being super positive 153 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: in those things, and then the clarity with which Mike 154 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: McDonald operates and give us a little more insight in 155 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: terms of the culture that exists when in the locker 156 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: room or how it plays out on the field. 157 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that mob is a big deal. It's 158 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: not the lob but and it's internal and it's just 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: kind of come out as the years of all but 160 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: that mission over bs. You know, it's just it's about 161 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: the mission, man, it's not about any of this other stuff. 162 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: And your veterans have really laid that when DeMarcus plays 163 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: that hard Bucky, when he plays like he's an undrafted 164 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 2: free agent, truly like chasing things down, throwing his body. 165 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: When Byron and Leonard and Ernest and these guys and 166 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: some of them that do have seasoning play like NICKI 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: Min Worry and Devin with their hair on fire, it's like, man, 168 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: that's you know you got it right, you know you 169 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: got it. And I think it was Coach dunge. It's 170 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: been said many times, but and I firmly believe this 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: through my you know, years of watching it and watching 172 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: this group defined by defense like they were in the 173 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: previous iteration, and that is you know, you you don't 174 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: just see it, you hear it, you know, and you 175 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: see it, and you see great length, see great speed, 176 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: see great closing of space. That's very unique. I think 177 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: it's them and the Texans, maybe the Broncos, the Rams 178 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: up front, but like there was very few of the 179 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: close space the way that they do and as violently 180 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: as they do. But you hear them, man, you just 181 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: hear them talking. You hear them hang them with each other. Right. 182 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: I remember when Bob Whitsitt came in and some of 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: the friction with Mike and Bob wanted all the pictures down, 184 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a sterile environment. This is a 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: work environment. It's not a play environment, like we're here 186 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: to work, and it was like, okay, great, I'm working 187 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 2: to get out. I don't want to be here. This 188 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: Environment's one eight And that's continued from Coach Carol, like no, 189 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: I want guys to be here. We want to give 190 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: them every resource we want the best facilities. We want 191 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: the best of the best and those guys who care 192 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 2: about each other, and you hear it, hear it, it's genuine, 193 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: it's not just talk. And you also hear some violence. 194 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: These dudes are violent, violent violence on a football field, 195 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: and they like it that way. 196 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: To me, like the underrated aspect of defense right now 197 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: is the physicality of the tackling. And you can do 198 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: it legally. You're not talking, you're not getting headshots, you're 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: not getting penalties. But when you watch a Texans game 200 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: or you watch a Seahawks game, it's different, Like the 201 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: testing is different. There is a physicality and a violence 202 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: to it, and I think it speaks to the culture 203 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: they've created there. I want to get to the other side. 204 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Why we've got you. Can we go on the time machine, 205 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: go back to what the decision was at the time 206 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: that brought Sam Donald in there, What were the other 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: options and what led them to believe in and rightly so, 208 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: that Sam was the best way to go. 209 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe you were in Indianapolis, both the men 210 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: probably were, and I believe you heard some of those rumblings. 211 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: DJ and I think we talked about it off the 212 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: air a little more than on the air like well 213 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: this is this could go down like you know, this 214 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: is not and this is not a shot at Geno 215 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: in DK. But I think the reality is like for 216 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: their MB, like those were going to be pivots they 217 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: had to make. And you know when Geno's last training 218 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: camp not happy about his deal and maybe spends a 219 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: day popping about it and growing flared up or a 220 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: knee flared up, like huh, that's not MLB. You know, 221 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: when DK grabs the headset and puts it on and 222 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: the screaming in game at the offensive coordinator to get 223 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: in the ball like that's not MOB, you know. And 224 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: and I think as they as Mike, you know, first 225 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: year climbing the learning curve and all that he wanted 226 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: to do culturally and all the ways he wanted to go, 227 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: those are a couple of pivots that hey, if the 228 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: market was right and the conditions were right, we're going 229 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: to be willing to be bold. I mean John's bold. 230 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: He did it with Russell, Like if I could do 231 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: with Russell, what is Geno? And DK? You know? And 232 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: I think that embolded him and empowered him and built 233 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: equity and trust with Jody Allen and Chuck Arnold in 234 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: the organization, like, yeah, you know, we got to make 235 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: these hard pivots sometimes. Frankly, maybe we didn't pivot away 236 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: fast enough from some of that crew that aged right 237 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: in fifteen and sixteen and seventeen. So I think he 238 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: had a lot of equity in the bank to make 239 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: those moves, and when the market conditions were right. I 240 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: think playing against Sam late in the year as they did, 241 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: also helped. Right. Sam made an unbelievable throw getting hit 242 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: right in the mouth to Jefferson to win that game 243 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: and really knock the Seahawks out of the playoffs and 244 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: propelled Minnesota, And like, whoof this guy incubated well in 245 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: San Francisco. We kind of we kind of like this 246 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: kind of like this guy and uh and man has 247 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: that just paid obviously enormous dividends. 248 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: Let's continue to extend on the Sam Donald conversation because 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: Clint Kobe comes over, and what's interesting. Everyone talks about 250 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: Sam Donald and what has happened in terms of the 251 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: passing game, but this is a team that still runs 252 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: it more than they throw it. Let's just talk about 253 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: the system helping Sam Donald become the best version of 254 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: himself in Seattle. 255 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: You know, Bucky DJ has gotten to know my co 256 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: host for the last couple of years, one Michael Salk, 257 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: and Michael may have, because of his upbringing and roots, 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: may have a little more citicism than the passive, passive, aggressive, 259 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: very non cynical Pacific Northwest guy. Right. So we've we've 260 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: worked and clashed and molded a lot more. I think 261 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: I've become more cynical. He's become a little less. But 262 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, we heard for ten years about oh this 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: new A line coach. Oh yeah, this new scheme. Oh, 264 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: here comes Schottenheimer, Here comes Mike Hilario, here comes and 265 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: he's heard it like this is going to fix the line, 266 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 2: and it's going to fix the A line that's going 267 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: to It's like, I'm done. I'm just done. I'm not 268 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: going to believe anything you gotta say, I gotta I 269 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: gotta see it. And they got to go and produce and that. 270 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: And Might's not alone in that, by the way. That's 271 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: most Seahawk fans. It's a struggled for ten years. Oh 272 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: we'll take this d lineman, We'll make him an offensive guard, 273 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: and we'll take this scrap heap and we'll take go 274 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 2: cheap and we don't think there's enough value to draft 275 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: this guy this high end U D da da da 276 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: da da. And I'll tell you if you were to 277 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: go on the way back machine, I think one of 278 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: the most exciting things about this Kubiak higher was what 279 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: he brought with him. And equally what scared me as 280 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: if he goes to Atlanta and I think there's a 281 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: high prospect of that what he takes with him out 282 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: of Seattle, because that intellectual institutional knowledge of Rick Dennison, 283 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: of John Benton, of all those guys that are so 284 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: versed in it, so convicted in it. We had not 285 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: had that like this. You know, Shoty came in, but 286 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: it was working with the other pieces that were there. 287 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: He came in and brought his infantry with them, and man, 288 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: they done a phenomenal job. You know, this is this 289 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: is not the best offensive line in the league. But 290 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: when you want to talk about youngest and best and 291 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: merge those two, there's nobody nobody, right. Charles just got 292 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: his extension. Abe just got his extension. The last offseason, 293 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: Sables on a first year, Sundale's on a first year 294 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: Brafford's on the first year, Like, who has that in 295 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: the league? Playing also at this level at fourteen and 296 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: three at nobody does. And man, after a decade of 297 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: whining and complaining and crying about this offensive line, they 298 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: have turned the corner. And I think those men deserve 299 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: a ton of credit for it. 300 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know a lot of high picks in there 301 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: and hitting on those. So it's a compliment to John 302 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: the scouting department for being able to identify those guys, 303 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: and then a coaching staff that's been able to make 304 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: them work and fit in what they're doing. I was 305 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. I'm going 306 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: through watching all these college guys and trying to get 307 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: all my draft prep and as it stands right now, 308 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: and I've got more to do, but I think four 309 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: of my top eight players are Ohio State buck guys. 310 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: And the Ohio State buck guys lost in the Big 311 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Ten championship game and then they got bounced by Miami 312 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: in the playoff, and I'm sitting there thinking like, this 313 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: is where roster construction comes into play. They've got You've 314 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: got linebackers, receivers, safeties, they didn't have tackles, They could 315 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: not block those two guys at Miami and all the 316 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: other stuff is fantastic. You don't take that. I mean, 317 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: to me, it's a great and Seattle is another example 318 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: of that. It's I've always said it's hard to have 319 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: a bad team with a great offensive line, at least 320 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a bad offense with a great offensive line. They seem 321 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: like their testament to that. 322 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's half your offense, right, I mean, it's five 323 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: of the eleven guys right there. That group my favorite 324 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: teams that ever a part of my Husky team with 325 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Olin Krutz and benji Olsen, Like, oh my gosh, it 326 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: was like, well, let's go right. You could feel you 327 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: break the huddle and you could field on the other side. 328 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: Most of them are like, it's not gonna be fun, 329 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: you know, like you get that vibe even with the 330 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Seahawks buckying you were around it when you had Hutch 331 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: and Walt. I'm like, oh, this is just not gonna 332 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: be fun. And I'm not gonna put Charles and Gray 333 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: in that category. You're talking about two of the greatest 334 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: to ever do it in the history of the game 335 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: in Hutch and Walt. But I will tell you behind 336 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: the scenes and maybe you guys already know this, but 337 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: like Steve Hutchinson, he's got Schneider's ear, and John really 338 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: leans into hutch He's worked and consulted for them for 339 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: a number of years. And when you talk about like 340 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: standing on the table, from my understanding is that hutch said, John, 341 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: don't you dare not draft Gray's abel, don't you dare 342 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: get cute? Don't you dare trade down? Don't you dare 343 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: you like this other kid out of Arizona. I get it, 344 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: But don't you dare pass on this guy if he 345 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: is sitting there at eighteen because I think in Gray, honestly, 346 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: hutch sees some of himself, Like this guy's really bright, 347 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: this guy really bends, this guy really roun this guy's 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: really fun. And he's going to work with this left 349 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: tackle like hutch did with Walt, who barely said two words, 350 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: Like he's going to work with Charles and he's going 351 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: to grow them and improve them. And these two man, 352 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: these two have a chance to dance now for a 353 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: bunch of years together. And it's going to be fun 354 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: to watch in Seattle. Yeah, it's fun to watch. 355 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: It's really fun to watch your wide receiver one DJ 356 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: was talking about Ohio State. I don't know if there's 357 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: ever been a more underrated, underappreciated number one receiver in 358 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: the league than JSN. This dude had over seventeen hundred 359 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: yards and I believe watching his statement he made mask 360 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: some guys as number one. Just talk about his ascension, 361 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: his growth over a three year period to being the 362 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: player that he is right now. 363 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: You know what's wild Bucky is I think he's younger 364 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 2: than almost every Indiana who's your starter current on their 365 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: current college football team. Seriously, I think he's twenty three. 366 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible to do that, he would tell you. 367 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: And I've got a good buddy that knows him, has 368 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: known him a long time in their family and really 369 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: connected with the Seahawks, and he'd be the first to 370 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: say Cooper Cup was And I don't think John signed 371 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup for JSN. I think he signed Cooper Cup 372 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: for the system and for all that he would bring. 373 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: But man like, if it was just for Cooper for 374 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: jsn's development, in jsn's development alone, you'd be like, that's 375 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: a great signing. Let alone some of the third down 376 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: conversions in the blocking and all the other impact he's 377 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: had on everybody, but for JSN to look at Cooper 378 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: and go, WHOA, WHOA, Like this guy did that? You know, 379 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: you look up at JSN season and what was it? 380 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: Top ten all time in the history of the league 381 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: and yardage, but up above him was a guy named 382 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: Cooper cup like from four years ago that doesn't move 383 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: quite like JSN and didn't have, you know, some of 384 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: the body control and the lower body strength of JASN, 385 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: yet had almost what nineteen hundred yards or eighteen hundred 386 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: yards and his MVP caliber season. So yeah, Cooper has 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: been enormous of all the intricacies, all the details, all 388 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: the nuances, all the elements, all of the study, all 389 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: of the high powered things that I don't think every 390 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: every talented receiver always grasped they don't have to I 391 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: don't have to do That's great, Cooper, you have to 392 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: do that, right, You run four seven like you have 393 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: to do that. I don't have to do that. But 394 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: if I run four, four or five and got my 395 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: body control and I do what you do, and I 396 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: take all those components and add it to my game, 397 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: I can be filthy, which is exactly what he's been 398 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: this year. 399 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: It's been fun to watch man. You've been Jennerus with 400 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: your time, buddy. It's great to hang out with you. 401 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: Last one and then I'll let you run. Big Dumper. 402 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: Is he getting does he get over fifty next year? 403 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: Or are we looking at more of like a forty 404 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: tube jacks next year? 405 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're talking more mid forties. 406 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. 407 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: I think that's yeah. I don't. 408 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a big number, man, for a catcher. That was unbelievable. 409 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: It was insane, like insane, Like we talked about these 410 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: numbers and in Megatron's all time receiving record, right, and 411 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: these other guys got close. They got close. The all 412 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: time catcher home run record was Salvi at forty five 413 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: and he had sixty, Like, what are we doing? 414 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, look, he didn't even know this brock because he's 415 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: never watched anything except the last three any game. No, no, no, no, no, 416 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: no one one. I love the nickname. 417 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: I just just where we go would Dumper it like, 418 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: I've loved it, and I like the fact that he 419 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: did it, But I'm. 420 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: Sorry to see it. 421 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: My my baseball watching extends until late October. 422 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm just just so used to it. I'm so used 423 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to it. I'm just so used to it, you know, 424 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: like shot fired. Well, you know, if we're gonna if 425 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna extrapolate money to bodies. Remember the last time 426 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: you went to an open gym, Brock, and you're picking 427 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: teams and you say, I'll take these three, you get 428 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: those five. Yeah, that's kind of what it is, you know, 429 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: pretty much, pretty much, boy, This is what we devolve 430 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: into every time. All right, Brock, Hey, dude, we appreciate. 431 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: I know you're busy. I'm looking forward to watching these 432 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks and and we'll have you on if we get 433 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: toward draft. I want to talk some quarterbacks once you 434 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: get that point. 435 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: That'd be fun, man, I'll be violent. This Saturday night's 436 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: gonna move to your point. Like Houston and Pittsburgh Monday 437 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: night was. Yeah, yeah, Saturday night. These two don't like 438 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: each other at all. A lot of the players don't 439 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: like each other at all. And this is gonna be uh, 440 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: some fireworks in the moment. 441 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I stepped wrong on a curb about two months ago, 442 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: and my ankle still feels a little wobbly, and uh, 443 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: and I watched Fred Warner running it around like he's 444 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: just a yeah, yeah, it a little different, a little different. Yeah, 445 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: all right, thanks buddy, We'll see you next time you've 446 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: bat to see you boys. Well, there he goes Buck brockhured. 447 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: Phenomenal guy, and we will get a chance talking with 448 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: him because he knows a college game inside out too. 449 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: We'll get a chance to talk about what I was 450 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: going to say, all the quarterbacks, but are there any quarterbacks? 451 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: Which is another conversation for another day, as Dante Moore 452 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: has gone back to college. By the way, were quick 453 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: give me your give me your thirty second thought on 454 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: that one? Smart move? 455 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: And I feel like it was gonna be necessary after 456 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 3: watching the Indiana game. Like we've talked about, like time 457 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 3: on task starts, twenty stars is not enough to get ready. 458 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: And if you look at the bust rate quarterbacks that 459 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: come in to the league with twenty or fewer stars, 460 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 3: like you just go down a list of names that 461 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: have had struggles in the NFL. If he's thinking about 462 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: long term success, this was the best move for him. 463 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: And give Oregon credit having another one in the pipeline 464 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: and Dylan Rayola to come in and red shirt sit 465 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: on the bench if you want to call it. To 466 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: watch down teymore go to set him up for some 467 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: long term success by having more time on task in college. 468 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I'll just hit you with this one, real quick one. 469 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: I would say an idea that's been thrown out there 470 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: or one of the criticisms of the decision was you 471 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: could have been the second quarterback second picking this draft, 472 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: and next year looks like we could have a boatload 473 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and you might you might be the fourth 474 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: or fifth quarterback. And I would just just refute that 475 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: real quickly. Josh Allen wasn't one of the top wasn't 476 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: the top quarterback picked in his class? Lamar Jackson in 477 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: that same draft class way down the line at the 478 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, Drake made likely MVP of 479 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: the league, was third in his group. Bo Nicks is 480 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: the number one seed. Broncos was down the line, was 481 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: the sixth quarterback. So to me, you're going to go 482 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: in the first round, You're going to go to a 483 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: you know, potentially a better team if you were just 484 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: going to slide in the first, second, third, fourth, it 485 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, man, it doesn't matter. You're going to go 486 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: in the first round and you're going to have a 487 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: great opportunity yeah. 488 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: I think I think for him it is about understanding 489 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: it and listening and reading about him and what he 490 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: learned from UCLA. I think he felt like all the 491 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: pressure said I need to come over here to jump 492 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: on the field, and then what he realized is, oh, no, no, 493 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm not quite ready for. 494 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: The challenges that are here. 495 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: Let me become better prepared, let me get better at 496 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: my craft. And I think the Indiana game was maybe 497 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: another reminder in terms of how far I need to 498 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: go to get ready, because I'm gonna tell you the 499 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: pictures that Indiana were showing when I went to the 500 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: game on Sunday to Jackson Buffalo, Buffalo was changing the picture. 501 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: And if you're a young quarterback having to deal with 502 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: that that change, you're not for me. It's going to 503 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: lead to some ugly football. So I applaud them for 504 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: being able to do that. Brim for other guys to 505 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: want to jump out and it's about ay, I want 506 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: to go early. That's great, but really it should be 507 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: about long term success. And I think this will give 508 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: him a chance at long term success as a pro. 509 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 510 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: And in terms of this draft class, look, it's not 511 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be sexy in terms of the number of quarterbacks, 512 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: it's still it's a solid draft. Again, a lot of 513 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: starters to be found in this draft. Of man, I'm 514 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: telling you next the twenty six college football season might 515 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: be the best we've we've had in a long time. 516 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: There are so many good teams with key players and 517 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: key roles, and it's going to lead us to the 518 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: twenty seven draft, which is going to be star studded. 519 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: And it is not just quarterbacks every it's all you 520 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: guys OVERRTE the quarterbacks. No, no, not just quarterbacks. We're talking 521 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith. We're talking pass rushers out in the Wazoo, 522 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: from Texas and from South Carolina. Like we are going 523 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: to have a show in the nation's Capitol in Washington, 524 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: d C. So I'm excited about this draft. We'll get 525 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: some good players. We'll talk about him over the next 526 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: several months, Buck, but I'm already geeked up for the 527 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: twenty six college season. Of the twenty seven draft, well, yeah, 528 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: this is a byproduct of revenue share in IL. 529 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 3: We're guys, not only the timing where some of these 530 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: guys are going to be true three year players that 531 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: are coming out, but some guys are electing to stay, 532 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: which is a better thing because more experience at least 533 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: to better expercise, which should lead to an easier transition 534 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: when you get to the pros. I'm excited about not 535 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: only this class, but next year's class is absolutely loaded, 536 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 3: and it's not just a quarterback. 537 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: All right, buck. 538 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: Before we get out here, we don't have a ton 539 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: of time left, but preview real quick, just a couple 540 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: of thoughts here. We talked a lot about Seattle and 541 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: what to anticipate in a very physical matchup against San 542 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: Francisco with Rock Huer. But let's get to these other 543 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: games here. Let's start first of all, what you're looking 544 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: forward to Buffalo Denver in the AFC. Look Man, Josh Allen, 545 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: the company? Can it take the show on the road. 546 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: Coming out of the Jacksonville game, I feel like either 547 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: one of the teams a team that won, was gonna 548 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: have a great chance to go to the Super Bowl. 549 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: I came away more impressed with Buffalo than I have 550 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: the entire season, not only because of the way Josh 551 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: Allen played. People will talk about a he was at 552 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: an MVP level during that game. I would say the 553 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: reason he performed at a high level is because he 554 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: really leaned into taking care of the football, playing smart football, 555 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 3: I would say even managing the game. And then Sean 556 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 3: McDermott is defensive wizardry, being able to change the picture 557 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 3: and make things really difficult for Trevor Lawrence. I think 558 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: he can take that same game plan and do a 559 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: lot to mess up bow knicks and that rhythm. And 560 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: you have to remember this about the Broncos. Their offense 561 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: has been scatter shot throughout the year. If this is 562 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: a game that is not like a shootout, I don't 563 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: know if they can get to a point where they 564 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 3: can catch up with Josh Allen. If Josh Allen has 565 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: this offense rolling, I think the magic number is twenty four. 566 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: It's a Buffalo Bills get to twenty four. I think 567 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's advanced. There's a lot of speed over 568 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: there on Denver's defense. You look at the receiver depletion 569 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: for the Bills. I don't love that. To me. This 570 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: is a cook game, man. You got to let get cooked, 571 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: get that ground game going. I think this could be 572 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: an aggressive Josh Allen run game. I'll pull out all 573 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: the stops there. I think they want to make this 574 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: a physical a physical fight on that side of the ball, 575 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and then you flip it over to the other side 576 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: defending the second play. If you can defend the second 577 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: play with bow Knicks, it's not the initial play as 578 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: it's called. It's his ability to get outside of structure, 579 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: scramble for first downs, you know, make plays on the move. 580 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: That's going to be the key. If they're gonna somehow 581 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: go up there and knock off Denver, Denver's gonna be 582 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: well rested, They're going to be fast on that defensive 583 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: side of the ball. So it's physicality on offense for 584 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: Buffalo and then on the other side, it's defending that 585 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: second play. In my opinion, yeah, get in the second 586 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: play because bo Nicks is terrific. 587 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Also, maybe a little tempo, because the Bills are shurehanded 588 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: on offense and defense. Maybe the Broncos play a little 589 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: faster than they've played traditionally. Throughout the course of the 590 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: regular season, bow Knicks has been at his best when 591 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: they've operated no huddle at a breakneck speed. Maybe the 592 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: Broncos utilized a little bit of that. Given the extra 593 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: week to prepare. 594 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: All right, how about let's go the final game There 595 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: in the AFC Texans Patriots. Man, this is this is 596 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: ahead knocker. 597 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: I mean, this is everything that Brock talked about, physicality 598 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: and violence. This Texans defense, to me, is the best 599 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: in the league. And they can do it in simplistic 600 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: fashion from a scheme standpoint. But because they're so good 601 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: pass rushers, corners, mike linebackers, safety, they're good all over. 602 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: To me, this defense is going to have to play well. 603 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: They have to make life miserable for Drake May. They 604 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: have to keep the score down because I don't know 605 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 3: how many points theyre gonna be able to score. 606 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: CJ. 607 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: Strout has been off a little bit. I think this 608 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: defense is going to have to do the heavy lifting 609 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: for him to win in New England. 610 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: Don't want to be in third lungs, which is going 611 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: to put a huge emphasis on their ability to stay 612 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: ahead of the sticks on first down, and that's trying 613 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: to get some quick rhythm throws for Drake May. That's 614 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: getting the run game going. I think you'll know how 615 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: this game is going early on. If they're able to 616 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: get into second and five, second and six, Okay, New 617 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: England's you know, they have a chance to stay in 618 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: this thing. It sounds weird as the home team with 619 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: the higher seed. But if they if they are getting 620 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: one yard or they're losing a yard on first down, 621 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: and they're gonna pin the rears back and guess what 622 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the screen game. The screen game is not gonna work. 623 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: But because they're only rushing four, they're only rushing four, 624 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: there's another whole layer of the defense to take care 625 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: of the screen game. So you've got to stay ahead, 626 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: and that might be throwing the ball on first down. 627 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Like just trying to stay ahead on first down. I 628 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: think that's huge, huge emphasis for New England. Yeah, Stefan 629 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: Diggs needs to be big for the New England Pagers. 630 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: They gonna need him to be able to win some 631 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: of those one on one matchups. 632 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 3: And this is a big out Nico Collins not being 633 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: able to play for the Texans out with the concussion. 634 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: How are they going to manufacture points without their number 635 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: one receiver there? So we talk about another low scoring affair. 636 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: This plays right into the Texans hands, even though I 637 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: still tend to think that might be able to find 638 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: a way to get it done at home. 639 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Well, you look at the Patriots defense played great last 640 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: week against the Chargers. They've got to turn Stroud over. 641 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Stroud's done it. I mean he turned over. If Stroud's 642 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: got to play better than he did against Pittsburgh, he 643 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: can't give them those opportunities because Drake mail Cash those 644 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh was unable to do so. To me, Shorter 645 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Fields turning him over, I think that's going to be key. 646 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: And Stroud's got play a lot better on the Houston 647 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: side of things. So really looking forward to that matchup 648 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: should be a fun one. How about this one? Weather 649 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: could be gnarly in Chicago. I did not know I was. 650 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why I was unaware of the Stafford 651 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, poor weather game stats that have all been 652 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: floating around the internet here. I don't know if I'm 653 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent buying in on that, you know, telling 654 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: us what's going to happen in this game, because I 655 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: think they are going to be able to run the 656 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: ball and have some balance against the Bears. Yeah, like 657 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: balance is everything. 658 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 3: I mean, DJ, we can talk about all the previews 659 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: of the game, but what matters is the fourth quarter. 660 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: Will the Rams be able to stop Caleb Williams and 661 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: the Bears in the fourth quarter? No matter what the 662 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: margin is. The Bears are going to find a way 663 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: to creep back into the game, and will they be 664 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: able to get stops When Caleb Williams is doing what 665 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: he does well seven game winning drive, fourth quarter comebacks. 666 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: When he is able to play off schedule and just 667 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: kind of get in the backyard and do a little 668 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: sandlote football, this is when the Bears are their most dangerous. 669 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: I like the fact that. 670 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson has been practicing the team outside no heaters. 671 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: Let's get acclimated to the weather. The weather is a fact. 672 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: Outn't care how much you prepare for it. Nothing in 673 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: southern California can make you prepare for. 674 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: The Windy City in these environments. 675 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: But Matthew Stafford also being a great close This could 676 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: be great two quarterbacks that can close down in the 677 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. 678 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, the duel between Stafford 679 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: and Willians and the fourth Yeah, I'm looking forward to 680 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: seeing it. 681 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 2: Man. 682 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: It'll be interested to see. Can the Bears can they 683 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: block the Rams up front? That's going to be the 684 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: challenge for them in the past game. I think they'll 685 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: be able to run it a little bit with their 686 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: backs and their physicality, again, can they block them? And 687 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: then you know if it's close in the fourth quarter, 688 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to know. If you're the Bears, you're like, Okay, 689 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: we got them right where we want them. We didn't 690 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: been able to close things out, But I hope it is. 691 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: I hope it comes down to the end because I'm 692 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing that matchup there in the NFC. 693 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, Buck, that's gonna do it for us. I 694 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: hope you guys have enjoyed this one again, our thanks 695 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: to Brock hewar and appreciate his time today, and we'll 696 00:31:51,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: see you next week right here on movie sticks.