Speaker 1: I remember putting on you know, Oklahoma, you never wear
Speaker 1: pants during the summer is so hot, and I remember
Speaker 1: I put it like at our school, you had to
Speaker 1: wear pants at private school. And I put on my
Speaker 1: lash previous year's pants. I was like, Oh, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna work.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: Hi everyone, my name is Blake Griffin and I have
Speaker 1: been Brian's idle for upwards of thirteen years now. So enjoy.
Speaker 2: Welcome back, one and all.
Speaker 3: This is Off the Beat and I am, as always
Speaker 3: your Off the Beat host Brian Bomgartner my guest today, Well,
Speaker 3: he could absolutely dunk on you because he is one
Speaker 3: of the best dunkers in NBA history. As you just heard,
Speaker 3: I have the Blake Griffin on the show with me today.
Speaker 3: He is a former member of Lob City, the Los
Speaker 3: Angeles Clippers, as well as a member of the Detroit Pistons,
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets, and Boston Celtics. But as a kid, he
Speaker 3: could have his pick playing either football, baseball, basketball. He's
Speaker 3: just an all around athlete who luckily chose to grace
Speaker 3: the NBA with his prowess. He is a power forward,
Speaker 3: extraordinary and extremely funny guy and a pretty medium golfer,
Speaker 3: if I do say so myself. So I guess when
Speaker 3: I said great athlete, he's a mid athlete at golf.
Speaker 3: That's fine. He's got plenty of strings. I have had
Speaker 3: the good fortune of getting to know Blake over the
Speaker 3: past decade or so. He taught me how to dunk
Speaker 3: back in twenty eleven. So I'm glad that you're going
Speaker 3: to get to know him today. Here he is Blake, Griffin.
Speaker 1: And squeak.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak. I cook at every mon.
Speaker 1: Lift over from the ninety boat.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: Look at you in a little professional booth over there.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I am nothing if not professional.
Speaker 1: That is true. That's what they say.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is what they say. Thanks for dressing
Speaker 3: up for me today. Now, I just sent you a photo.
Speaker 3: We had this conversation this week twenty eleven. Yeah, twenty eleven,
Speaker 3: Blake and I shot something for a series of specials
Speaker 3: I was doing on NBC.
Speaker 2: I will share it on social media. I just sent
Speaker 2: you that photo. I feel like my form is pretty good,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like I'm down there.
Speaker 1: Can I just take a look again? Just to yeah
Speaker 1: you can warm. Do you maybe honest? Or you want
Speaker 1: me to just do the thing where I'm like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks good.
Speaker 2: I want you to be honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, the ball, you just got the ball way too
Speaker 1: close to me.
Speaker 2: I think that's the I think that's this perspective of
Speaker 2: the cale.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, probably just the angle. I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I think that's just the angle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, listen, you you know what,
Speaker 1: why don't you just join a team for the playoffs
Speaker 1: and see if see if they need some help.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you considered calling them, just throw out
Speaker 2: a line like Tom Brady, like, I mean, if anyone
Speaker 2: calls I'm here, yeah, maybe really.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe no, I'm finish, You're done, I'm done, done, done.
Speaker 2: All right, Well we're gonna we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 3: I saw very clever by the way on social media
Speaker 3: that you had to retire to finally get a trophy.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 3: I was just with Blake this last weekend in Las
Speaker 3: Vegas the Win Hotel for the eight AM Golf Championship
Speaker 3: Invitational Celebrity Celebrity Ternament featuring Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's the title of it, eight am Golf. They certainly
Speaker 3: are a lot of fun. I had fun playing with you.
Speaker 3: How is it playing with me?
Speaker 1: It was? It was, man, I'm almost at a loss
Speaker 1: for words. It was a very surreal. It was a
Speaker 1: beautiful experience, It really was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had so much fun. How it works,
Speaker 1: it's like for people who don't know, you play with
Speaker 1: a different group, front nine and back nine. So we
Speaker 1: played the back nine of day one and boy, let
Speaker 1: me tell you, things went off the rails. It was fun, man,
Speaker 1: so much fun.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: And Blake and Chandler Parsons ended up winning the Chance
Speaker 3: Beach Chip. Now, did you come down hard down the stretch?
Speaker 3: Is that what happened? Because I thought you were out
Speaker 3: of it at that point. I mean, after playing with
Speaker 3: you on day one, I thought, yeah, they don't have
Speaker 3: the staying power. I mean, I don't mean that anyway
Speaker 3: except exactly how it sounded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just meant it in the worst way possible. Thanks,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Thanks for clarifying that. Actually either way.
Speaker 1: So we started out the front nine of day two,
Speaker 1: I mean we were we were second place after day one.
Speaker 1: Day two, well, we played solid on the on the
Speaker 1: first day Day two, the front nine was rough because
Speaker 1: we got strokes. We had, you know, the bogie with
Speaker 1: the max you could take for what hast to play
Speaker 1: and all that. There was a couple holes where we
Speaker 1: stroked and those were like our bogie holes, so we
Speaker 1: actually got to put in a par got it. So
Speaker 1: that helped. And then the last two holes par five
Speaker 1: and the part four birdie birdie, but birdie for eagle
Speaker 1: because we stroked. So we ended up like we were
Speaker 1: like two under on the front nine and then we
Speaker 1: ended up six under on the front nine. So it
Speaker 1: was kind of like our strokes really helped.
Speaker 2: To be honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for those of you who need strokes,
Speaker 3: I get it. I understand that that's you were good.
Speaker 3: That that's how it worked. Here's the here's the thing.
Speaker 3: So Jimmy fallon playing with tournament host, I think we
Speaker 3: can safely say that if we don't have the title
Speaker 3: right tournament host justin Timberlake, I feel like everyone wanted
Speaker 3: them to win. Now is that just a perception thing
Speaker 3: on my part or no?
Speaker 1: Well, so they technically did you know, they were like
Speaker 1: thirty minus thirty two hunder. But they don't. They weren't
Speaker 1: gonna they weren't going to accept a win, like they
Speaker 1: weren't going to win their own thing. Oh yeah, they won.
Speaker 1: They beat us like five strokes.
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought, so this, now this is starting to
Speaker 3: make way more sense because I thought they had an
Speaker 3: insurmountable lead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we wouldn't have. I mean, we wouldn't. We got
Speaker 1: a sniffed.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Actually, then that legitimizes the whole thing to me a
Speaker 3: little bit more that you guys actually did it. You know,
Speaker 3: there was you know, Justin got hurt. There was people
Speaker 3: hitting shots for him. I mean, you know, there was
Speaker 3: a whole thing going on. Well, congratulations, How did it
Speaker 3: feel the moment you were handed that trophy, Blake, How
Speaker 3: did it feel one.
Speaker 1: Of the biggest sporting accomplishments of my life? Yeah, fig
Speaker 1: it actually did. Because we were tied with the guys
Speaker 1: who were leading, Archie and Adrian Gonzales. We were tied
Speaker 1: with them going into eighteen. They were already finished and
Speaker 1: we popped them the last hole as well, So we
Speaker 1: were like, all we got to do is get a
Speaker 1: ball in the green and two putt Part three last week.
Speaker 1: So and we both got laying on the green, picked
Speaker 1: a better putt, two putted for the win, and felt good.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thanks man.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're it feels like you're saying that,
Speaker 1: but you don't quite need Maybe.
Speaker 2: No, I'm happy.
Speaker 3: I had a great time playing with you. Let me
Speaker 3: let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: Who's the slowest call for that?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Uh, I know some slow ones. Yeah, do you think
Speaker 1: I'm up there? Are you about to set up something here?
Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't gonna set it up. I was just
Speaker 3: gonna say it. I mean, whoever you think is slow,
Speaker 3: you're slower. Okay, let's be let's be clear about it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I think so. All right, Well, but you
Speaker 3: know what you're really what you punish us with slowness,
Speaker 3: you get back in fun.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. I gotta work on it. Nobody's
Speaker 1: ever told me that. So I'll get faster next year.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play in my co like an hour thirty.
Speaker 2: Maybe so much. You're just gonna You're just gonna run.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of It's the first tournament I've
Speaker 3: ever played in that that shirts came off around the course.
Speaker 3: It was uh, well, it was it was it was fun,
Speaker 3: it was very it was Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: I want to get back into your beginnings, but I
Speaker 3: do want to ask you this. Are you the most
Speaker 3: powerful dunker since Shack?
Speaker 1: I mean there's like, okay, so let's go through. There's Dominique, Wilkins,
Speaker 1: Sean Camp, shack On obviously, but Shacks was like, I
Speaker 1: mean he's so powerful, and I guess Earlyiam's career got
Speaker 1: up pretty high, but he was like true big man,
Speaker 1: want to hand, you know, just as ran as hard
Speaker 1: as possible. I think Dominique and Sean Camp both like
Speaker 1: jumped really high.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they.
Speaker 1: Were super powerful.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm Sean Kemp. That's a that's
Speaker 3: a good one. I mean Barkley no, yeah.
Speaker 1: But he just didn't like like no one thinks of
Speaker 1: Barkley and thinks dunks. No, he obviously could and he
Speaker 1: had some good ones. But like those two Dominique and
Speaker 1: Sean Camp, like those two.
Speaker 3: Are like Sean Camp, I didn't think of Sean Camp.
Speaker 3: That's a good that's a good one there. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean both well before you, who do you think is
Speaker 3: the most powerful man in the game right now now
Speaker 3: that you've retired?
Speaker 1: Uh Zion, not even close. Yeah, he's like two seventy
Speaker 1: maybe to eighty maybe two ninety, have no idea, but like,
Speaker 1: and he's like six seven. He's not like super tall.
Speaker 2: Is he only six seven?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not super tall, but I mean how high
Speaker 1: he jumps and the force he creates. I took a
Speaker 1: charge from him one time three I think I was
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn to get charge from him, and he kind
Speaker 1: of kicked me in the shin, you know, as a
Speaker 1: result of it, right, And I had like a I
Speaker 1: had like a lump, like a lump, decide, like half
Speaker 1: of a golf ball on my shin, which you think,
Speaker 1: like that's just bump. Where where's the bump coming from? Right?
Speaker 1: I didn't know I had it for like a month
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: Geez.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in hindsight, probably shouldn't have taken the charge. But
Speaker 1: you know, well, Bri, I like to put like to
Speaker 1: put my body on the line.
Speaker 2: Then you know, did you get did you get the call?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: I got charge?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Your your lob City days and the power with which
Speaker 3: you played. The game obviously made you incredibly popular because
Speaker 3: that's just fun to watch. But like you said, I mean,
Speaker 3: you're putting yourself on the line both both as the
Speaker 3: aggressor and the receiver at times. And so yeah, I was,
Speaker 3: as I knew I was going to talk to you today,
Speaker 3: I was wondering if there was anybody else. I mean,
Speaker 3: you mentioned Zion, which is obviously a great one that
Speaker 3: that you sort of that you feel like plays in
Speaker 3: that same way that you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like physically it's him. I mean there's
Speaker 1: other guys that are pretty physical. But when you like
Speaker 1: add in like dunks and like just like you know, Zion,
Speaker 1: just like just pure athletics and athleticism, we'll just he'll
Speaker 1: beat you.
Speaker 2: How tall are you?
Speaker 1: Six nine?
Speaker 2: Are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Six ten with shoes if you want.
Speaker 3: To, I feel like I'm growing or you're shrinking, because
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like we were kind of close, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe we'll let let people decide when they
Speaker 1: when they look at that picture. It also could just
Speaker 1: be the angle, you know, it.
Speaker 3: Could No, I think it might just it might have
Speaker 3: just been the angle. You grew up in Oklahoma. Your
Speaker 3: brother played, you played with him, and uh and and
Speaker 3: your dad was a big athlete as well.
Speaker 2: He ran track right At Northwestern Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: He played he played basketball and football.
Speaker 2: Basketball and football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dual sport college guy.
Speaker 2: Oh that's impressive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he back then they wouldn't let freshmen play on
Speaker 1: the varsity, Okay, so he really wanted to play both,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I just want to play like.
Speaker 1: I don't think he wasn't looking for like and also
Speaker 1: back then this was this would have been he went
Speaker 1: to college in sixty eight, so like professional sports, you know,
Speaker 1: weren't weren't what they are today, right, So I think
Speaker 1: he was just like, I just want to play both.
Speaker 1: Going to the Northwestern do that? So he yeah, he
Speaker 1: had that was actually at home recently that was going
Speaker 1: through his old like memorability. He had like multiple forty
Speaker 1: rebound games really at like six or four. He was
Speaker 1: a center playing six four at sixty four.
Speaker 3: Well, you obviously didn't see him do that. I mean,
Speaker 3: did he did he play the same way you played?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Probably, I don't know. I didn't see him play. All
Speaker 1: I go off of now is like seeing clips, like
Speaker 1: articles like that, and like his teammates selling stories and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I knew he I know he can jump out
Speaker 1: of the gym. I know that for a fact. But
Speaker 1: that's it's kind of all I know.
Speaker 3: Exacly, sports was a big part of your life growing up.
Speaker 2: Did you grow so? Did you grow tall fast? Were
Speaker 2: you big? Early?
Speaker 1: I was like always the tallest kid in my gray,
Speaker 1: you know, always the tallest one on my team. And
Speaker 1: but then like end of my eighth grade year, so
Speaker 1: like end of May, I was six one and I
Speaker 1: was I guess I just turned fourteen. Yeah, And then
Speaker 1: beginning of my freshman year, so two and a half
Speaker 1: months later, I was like six six six six six
Speaker 1: and a half. So I grew like five and a
Speaker 1: half inches and two and a half months, and like
Speaker 1: stretch marks on my shoulders, like stretch marks on my hips.
Speaker 1: It's like, what was going on? I remember putting on
Speaker 1: you know, Oklahoma you never wear pants during the summer
Speaker 1: is so hot, and I remember I put it like
Speaker 1: at our school, you had to wear pants at private school.
Speaker 1: And I put on my lash previous year's pants, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, he's not gonna work.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna work. You played baseball, I heard first
Speaker 3: base something else we have in common pitch. That was
Speaker 3: the first basement. Yeah, I pitch.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite sport?
Speaker 2: You know, I was the best at baseball.
Speaker 3: I probably liked basketball the best growing up. I feel
Speaker 3: like now it's you know, just I'm kind of all
Speaker 3: in on the football deal.
Speaker 2: But I did not play. I think it was my dad.
Speaker 3: My dad, he wasn't as interested in football. He was
Speaker 3: also a doctor, and I think that maybe subconsciously that
Speaker 3: was a part of it, Like he just sort of
Speaker 3: didn't steer me in that direction, which is crazy even
Speaker 3: back then, I mean didn't know at all what we
Speaker 3: you know, know, the potential is now, So it wasn't
Speaker 3: ever like stated, but I kind of later on I
Speaker 3: kind of wondered about that. But you were friends with
Speaker 3: Sam Bradford.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we grew up like not not too far from
Speaker 1: each other, play all kinds of sports against with growing up,
Speaker 1: and then obviously we went to the University of Oklahoma
Speaker 1: together too, So it's pretty cool. I've I've you know,
Speaker 1: known him forever.
Speaker 2: What's harder to be better at football or basketball?
Speaker 1: I'm so biased. Well, if you're playing quarterback, you're playing
Speaker 1: like something like that, like insanely hard. I mean you've
Speaker 1: got so many responsibilities. Right, Like I always felt like
Speaker 1: football was easier for me just because I played like
Speaker 1: wide receiver, I played tight end, I played like safety
Speaker 1: defensive end. Like so it was just like in high
Speaker 1: school is obviously different, but it's just like just go
Speaker 1: just go run and catch or go do this. Whereas basketball,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you gotta be able to dribble,
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to shoot, gotta you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on. So I think like there's
Speaker 1: just more things that you have to do if you're
Speaker 1: just a basketball player. Now when it comes to you know, quarterback,
Speaker 1: like I said, like that's that's a that's a whole
Speaker 1: different level. And then football you got to take take
Speaker 1: an account the absolute beating right right right right. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's harder.
Speaker 2: You know, I think the thing that I don't tell
Speaker 2: me what you think about this.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about this this weekend, but like there
Speaker 3: is and let's just call this is a terrible, like
Speaker 3: simplistic way to say it, but let's just say AAU
Speaker 3: basketball like what people sort of refer to as AAU basketball,
Speaker 3: which is run up and down the court, shoot it
Speaker 3: from every which away and try to.
Speaker 2: Do big dugs. But there's something about that Clippers team
Speaker 2: that I refer to before.
Speaker 3: And then I would also say, so, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you're a hater of them or not, but it
Speaker 3: was sort of almost from well if you take like
Speaker 3: the showtime Lakers, look at you guys, what you were
Speaker 3: doing at the Clippers, and then like what the Warriors
Speaker 3: were doing sort of at their peak, which is moving
Speaker 3: so well in space, and that the idea anyway that
Speaker 3: you're making a play a pass, dribbling to a spot
Speaker 3: for that like you're playing chess as opposed to checkers
Speaker 3: or aa, like you're making a play for three passes later,
Speaker 3: and that for me is so much fun to watch.
Speaker 3: And I feel like you don't see that often and
Speaker 3: you certainly don't think about it, but when you when
Speaker 3: you see it happen, it's so beautiful and to me,
Speaker 3: the most beautiful game that there is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it. I mean, it's obviously now way more
Speaker 1: of a commonplace. And if you look at like the finals,
Speaker 1: even like the early two thousands, finals, game scores would
Speaker 1: be eighty five, eighty nine, ninety to ninety two whatever
Speaker 1: it was. And now I mean teams are still scoring
Speaker 1: plus one ten, you know what I mean. I can't
Speaker 1: remember what everybody ended up with last night, but I
Speaker 1: know Minnesota scored over one hundred and fourteen maybe, I
Speaker 1: know whatever. All these teams are just like the pace
Speaker 1: of playing is so much faster and everybody's philosophy, mostly
Speaker 1: because of the Warriors. We were a big transition team
Speaker 1: with the Clippers. The Warriors were obviously like get up
Speaker 1: as many threes as possible, shoot it early, or get
Speaker 1: to the rim. They want to dump the layups and threes.
Speaker 1: And now you're starting to see everybody do that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like when we came in, that was sort of like
Speaker 1: the Dirk was like obviously a power forward who was
Speaker 1: shooting threes, Kevin Love was and then now, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's probably hard to find a team with a power
Speaker 1: forward who's not shooting four threes. Again, right, there's definitely outliers.
Speaker 1: But like you're right though, getting back to the point
Speaker 1: of like how teams move the ball, and this is
Speaker 1: what Yukon on the men's college side does so well.
Speaker 2: It's so fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Their offense is like the closest thing I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they they are an NBA team, but how they
Speaker 1: move and their sets like that Hurley does such a
Speaker 1: good job because their sets are so you watch the
Speaker 1: ball go this way, there's an action on the backside.
Speaker 1: Somebody comes off, but it's not for him. He turns
Speaker 1: and says for somebody to rip screen down. Somebody else
Speaker 1: comes up, and then the guy who initially started moving
Speaker 1: in the first part somehow comes back around and he
Speaker 1: gets a shot. They're there, and their defense too, is
Speaker 1: played a lot like an NBA team's defense. So like
Speaker 1: watching them play in the tournament. In the conference tournament,
Speaker 1: I was like, no one is going to touch them,
Speaker 1: and I hate to be the guy at the end
Speaker 1: after they wanted it. But I was telling like multiple
Speaker 1: people like, dude, Yukon is so good. Their offensive defense
Speaker 1: are so fun to watch, and that's a lot. It's
Speaker 1: a lot like how the better NBA teams play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you four time high school champion, undefeated your freshman year.
Speaker 3: I mean, Oklahoma Christian, you're playing baseball, you're playing football
Speaker 3: at three positions in football at least, and you're playing basketball.
Speaker 3: When for you did you decide basketball was it?
Speaker 1: Was?
Speaker 2: It? This growth spurt the six inches.
Speaker 1: Now because I still played. I played football my freshman year, okay,
Speaker 1: and then I came to the team late my dad.
Speaker 1: We played for my dad, like you said, and came
Speaker 1: to the team late, barely made the varsity team, didn't
Speaker 1: really play much, sort of worked my way up and
Speaker 1: I got into like the state championship game and it
Speaker 1: was like our toughest game of the season. I hadn't
Speaker 1: played the semi final game of the game before that,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of bummed about it. And my dad,
Speaker 1: my dad, my dad. We got home and he was like, hey, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, Like, wipe that whatever you got
Speaker 1: on your face, Like wipe that attitude off. And then
Speaker 1: he the game. We're like, I think we're maybe like
Speaker 1: down to which was shocking for us because we just
Speaker 1: dominated that season. And my brother was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the best player in the state and he was just killing,
Speaker 1: so we're down. He turns the bench and goes blake
Speaker 1: and I was like me and I check in the
Speaker 1: game right before the end of the first half and
Speaker 1: first play some reason, they threw it to me on
Speaker 1: the block for some reason. To this day, I've told
Speaker 1: this to multiple people. I still don't know why. I
Speaker 1: because I was very like because my dad was a coach,
Speaker 1: he's very disciplined. Like I was just play the play
Speaker 1: the way I've been asked to play. Catching on the block,
Speaker 1: post move, fade away jumper, going to the middle, fadeaway jumper.
Speaker 1: It goes in. I'm already backpedaling back. It goes in,
Speaker 1: and I remember, like the crowd. You know, you get
Speaker 1: to play at the it's called the Big House and like,
Speaker 1: you know, huge craft, ten thousand people, and I remember
Speaker 1: the crowd and I remember like the chills like going
Speaker 1: through my body, and I remember being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is like this is what I like.
Speaker 1: And I ended up like came back down, my brother
Speaker 1: made a move, They came in, doubled, let me passed
Speaker 1: off to me. Later it in. I think I got
Speaker 1: another lay up come out. I ended up going back
Speaker 1: in the second half and we ended up winning. From
Speaker 1: then on, I was just like, that's this is what
Speaker 1: I'm this is what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: I love that there's specific moment that you remember, and there's.
Speaker 1: Like other moments too, Like that was like the earliest one.
Speaker 1: Where I was like, oh no, no, I think I can
Speaker 1: maybe do this. And I wasn't even thinking NBA. I
Speaker 1: was just playing like I want to be. I wanted
Speaker 1: to always be like my brother, and he was like
Speaker 1: the person I was always chasing, and he was like
Speaker 1: he was already committed to go to Oklahoma at that time,
Speaker 1: and you know, that's what I want to do. I
Speaker 1: want to go play college basketball. And then there's moments
Speaker 1: where you realize, Okay, maybe I can go play in
Speaker 1: the NBA and so on.
Speaker 3: You guys won, as I said, four straight state championships,
Speaker 3: and I hear Oklahoma Christian just this last month won
Speaker 3: a state title again. There's a kid by the name
Speaker 3: of Luke Gray who plays there, who just passed you, Blake.
Speaker 3: I'm told breaking news here from the studio that he
Speaker 3: just passed you as the all time leader leading scorer
Speaker 3: in school history. I mean, how does that make you feel?
Speaker 3: I mean, are you proud of the kid or are
Speaker 3: you look at that don't be nice?
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, holding out high school scoring
Speaker 1: record for an individual, it is awesome. It's awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: super happy for him, But that's not something I would
Speaker 1: be like we should still had.
Speaker 2: That one, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's so happy for him. That's a huge when you're
Speaker 1: in high school and you're doing.
Speaker 2: That, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll go on to you know, play more
Speaker 1: basketball and hopefully have a really long career, and it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I'm super happy for him. It's definitely not one of
Speaker 1: those things where I'm like, I wish that had happened.
Speaker 1: I still hang on to that one. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: that's great for him. He's a great player.
Speaker 3: You get recruited by Duke Kansas North Carolina. I read
Speaker 3: you decide to go follow your brother to Oklahoma?
Speaker 2: Now? Is that because your brother was there?
Speaker 1: That was a huge reason I initially wasn't going to
Speaker 1: go there. My brother was recruited by Kelvin Samson, went
Speaker 1: and played for Kelvin Sampson for his freshman year and
Speaker 1: he got into some NCAA violations. They hired a young
Speaker 1: coach at the time named Jeff Caple played at Duke.
Speaker 1: He was like one of the youngest I think he's
Speaker 1: one of the youngest Division one head coaches at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: came from VCU and my brother came home one day
Speaker 1: and he was like, I like really love like how
Speaker 1: we're doing workouts, Like it's more like skill work. It's
Speaker 1: less like, you know, just same old you're you're a
Speaker 1: big man, do this, you know. He was everybody was
Speaker 1: working on their shot or but he was working on
Speaker 1: their ball handling. It was he was like, I really think, like,
Speaker 1: if you want to, like this could be a great
Speaker 1: place for you. And I developed a relationship with with
Speaker 1: coach Kpele and still to this day, I have a
Speaker 1: great relationship with him. And he was just like one
Speaker 1: of those people that I felt like believed, like really
Speaker 1: believed in me. He had asked me he had actually
Speaker 1: the other day I announced I was retired, and he
Speaker 1: had a really cool post and meant a lot to me.
Speaker 1: One of our first conversations, he was like, what are
Speaker 1: your goals? And I was like, I want to play
Speaker 1: college basketball when I you know, win a championship and
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens after that. And he
Speaker 1: came and saw me play for the first time because
Speaker 1: at the time he just got the job and you
Speaker 1: reach out to recruits in state right away, can't watch
Speaker 1: me play for the first time. And I remember the
Speaker 1: next day after that tournament, he called, he texted me.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can jump on the phone. I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, sure. So we calls and he's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I think you've got to change your goals. And I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well it's pretty cool, but like
Speaker 1: it's nothing. Confidence was ever like a huge issue for me.
Speaker 1: Like I knew who I was as a basketball player,
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't one of those guys. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the NBA, I'm going to do this,
Speaker 1: this and this. It was just like I'd seen so
Speaker 1: many guys not make it, so many talented guys not
Speaker 1: even make it to college. Right. My dad being a
Speaker 1: high school basketball coach for years and years, I always
Speaker 1: looked up to his high school players and there were
Speaker 1: so many guys and I was like, man, he's so good.
Speaker 1: Didn't make it in college, or did make it to college,
Speaker 1: didn't play left da whatever. So it was just never
Speaker 1: a thing with me where I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: for sure I'm gonna make a career out of this.
Speaker 1: You know. It was just like you play right, and
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens. And my college coach, among you know,
Speaker 1: amongst my parents and my brother, two of the biggest
Speaker 1: you know, or some of the biggest basketball influences on
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, were you planning to be one and done?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, not at all. I didn't even think
Speaker 1: that was like, I mean, I guess there's there's a possibility,
Speaker 1: but I had a chance to be I was, you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, I sort of had
Speaker 1: a decision to make and I had to announce that
Speaker 1: I was coming back to college. People thought I was
Speaker 1: going to leave. It was like I was probably like
Speaker 1: a lottery but you know, not top five, I don't think,
Speaker 1: probably maybe like more like eight to fourteen to sixteen.
Speaker 1: And I just felt like I wasn't ready to be honest,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my development in college. I really wanted
Speaker 1: to come back and play with my brother his senior year.
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to you know, I set a
Speaker 1: list to all these goals and I wanted to come back,
Speaker 1: and I decided to, and I'm so glad I did,
Speaker 1: because I don't think I would have been as ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you had some injuries that held you back.
Speaker 2: Your MCL and your left knee.
Speaker 3: You're hurt against Kansas and then your right knee against
Speaker 3: A and M you decide to come back. I mean, truly,
Speaker 3: your sophomore season, your second and final, as it turns out,
Speaker 3: season at the University of Oklahoma, one of the best
Speaker 3: college seasons by any player ever. I appreciate that, right,
Speaker 3: I mean no, you lead the NCAA and rebounding, lead
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve in scoring Big Twelve records on rebounds,
Speaker 3: thirty double doubles in college.
Speaker 2: I read that, I'm like, is that right? That can't
Speaker 2: be right?
Speaker 3: You end up being, of course the number one pick
Speaker 3: after that, Were you satisfied with what you accomplished in college?
Speaker 1: Satisfied? Now? I mean the biggest goal obviously is they
Speaker 1: win a championship, and that think truly, it was like
Speaker 1: it was the one I made a goal list with
Speaker 1: one of our assistant coaches, and I had it on
Speaker 1: a poster board and I put it up in my
Speaker 1: apartment and checked off every single one but Big Twelve
Speaker 1: chanceampion and national champion. That those are like the ones
Speaker 1: that like being Truly the sounds corny, but being a
Speaker 1: part of something that's like bigger than you is so rewarding.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can obviously speak on that
Speaker 1: having just won a golf tournament.
Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, you and Chandler parties, Yeah,
Speaker 3: being part of that.
Speaker 1: Team, yeah jesus. So you know it truly is though,
Speaker 1: like like winning a championship would have been awesome. That
Speaker 1: would have been like I would have looked back and
Speaker 1: been like, I am, there's nothing left to do in college,
Speaker 1: you know, And I eventually did leave, but it was
Speaker 1: time for me to leave, but that would have been like,
Speaker 1: you know, where I was truly satisfied.
Speaker 3: Did you know you were going number one? Did they
Speaker 3: tell you? They told you?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers kind of got in trouble because
Speaker 1: when the draft lottery came out, the guy who was
Speaker 1: at the draft lottery representing the Clippers, you know, the
Speaker 1: interview whoever gets in the one pick, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're taking Blake Griffin. I remember I was sitting in
Speaker 1: the ESPN zone was doing like a doc follow thing.
Speaker 1: You know, they did this thing called the Rookie or
Speaker 1: something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with cameras and it was just kind
Speaker 1: of like WHOA, all right. I had been to La
Speaker 1: once at that point, I think, right, honestly, it didn't
Speaker 1: even like the Clippers weren't even like back then, like
Speaker 1: there's no league pass, no social media, Like I wasn't
Speaker 1: seeing highlights of the Clippers. They weren't on national TV ever, Right,
Speaker 1: I didn't really know much about the Clippers by the
Speaker 1: team that I knew the least.
Speaker 2: Right, I think the Clippers liked it that way.
Speaker 1: Nobody that was their whole thing.
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna we're gonna sneak up on them
Speaker 2: when they're not looking.
Speaker 1: Here comes Lob City having to force them into the like.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know you got hurt your
Speaker 3: first year, so you know, your first real season rookie
Speaker 3: of the year, and you guys just start going nuts.
Speaker 3: I mean Chris Paul, DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, JJ, Chauncey,
Speaker 3: Moe Williams, Grant Hill, lamar Odom, Steven Jackson, Ryan Hollins.
Speaker 3: I mean that's just a few. You truly brought the
Speaker 3: Clippers out. Well, I mean, does balm Er buy them
Speaker 3: if it weren't for you, I don't know, maybe you
Speaker 3: should have some sort of percentage.
Speaker 2: Of that of that sale. How much fun was it?
Speaker 3: I mean to be a part of something, and not
Speaker 3: just a part of something, but a part of transitioning
Speaker 3: an organization that had again either chosen or was sort
Speaker 3: of obscure or or mired in obscurity to such amazing heights.
Speaker 2: I mean had to just be incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a blast, man, it was. It was
Speaker 1: you know, my rookie year was it was one thing.
Speaker 1: But then when we got Chris CP, when we got
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, it was like a whole day front level
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, we were on the road,
Speaker 1: you go play like a team that wasn't doing that
Speaker 1: well that year. Attendance was down, sold out. I mean
Speaker 1: it was like every night we played it felt like
Speaker 1: it was like the you know, a national TV game,
Speaker 1: like a big one, and that was like a blast.
Speaker 1: You know as a player, like you truly want to
Speaker 1: play in the best in the best atmosphere, but also
Speaker 1: you want to you want you want everybody's best shot.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hard, man, when everybody's gunning for you,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's obviously much harder. There's no games where
Speaker 1: you just walk in, ho hung, do your thing and
Speaker 1: get out. You know, when everybody's gunning for you. You
Speaker 1: you got to bring it every night, and it was
Speaker 1: it was like a level of focus that like I
Speaker 1: truly believe helped my entire career because I just, you know,
Speaker 1: so early on, I knew I had to bring it
Speaker 1: every night, and it was it was a blast. We
Speaker 1: had a really fun, really good run. I was it
Speaker 1: came short of like a championship, but it was those
Speaker 1: years were so fun. Why do you think it did
Speaker 1: Why we came short multiple reasons. We had some we
Speaker 1: had some mental lapses. We also had some physical breakdowns,
Speaker 1: Like there was multiple times where key guys got hurt,
Speaker 1: myself included. Yeah, and then we had some times where
Speaker 1: like we should have gone on to the next round
Speaker 1: and we you know, we were up three to one
Speaker 1: against Houston, and I was like, you know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to talk about still. Yeah, I was sorry. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really asking the heart hitting questions. Man, you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna cry, But yeah, I mean there's multiple reasons, you know,
Speaker 1: and and to win a championship, like there's a certain
Speaker 1: amount of luck that you have to have, Like obviously
Speaker 1: total wings are very very good, but like you know,
Speaker 1: being healthy, like look at look at the year that
Speaker 1: Toronto want beat Golden State, Kevin Durant gets hurt, Clay
Speaker 1: Thompson gets hurt. Toronto's not sniffing that championship. If those
Speaker 1: two are healthy. I don't mean any disrespect to Toronto.
Speaker 1: They earned it because they and also guess what, they
Speaker 1: stayed healthy, so they earned it. But like that's it
Speaker 1: takes a lot, takes everything coming together at the right time.
Speaker 2: Are you able now to celebrate what you.
Speaker 3: Guys accomplished and how you change the culture and how
Speaker 3: the Clippers are seen and defined or is it still
Speaker 3: more I wish.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you know, I'm still
Speaker 1: close with a lot of those guys, and I don't
Speaker 1: know that people are like truly give us any like
Speaker 1: type of credit for bringing the bringing, you know, because
Speaker 1: they still had to make decisions, you know, they from there.
Speaker 1: They got guys for CP in the trade, they got
Speaker 1: guys from ME in the trade, and then now they
Speaker 1: have the team that they have. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody's actually giving us any type of credit because really
Speaker 1: we didn't ultimately win, so like, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: really think that doesn't mean I'm not proud of what
Speaker 1: we did, but I don't know that people are like
Speaker 1: really giving us. I've never heard any like bump anybody.
Speaker 1: No one's been like thank you for what you did, So.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, right, well, that's that's really
Speaker 3: surprising to me, honestly. I mean because even you know,
Speaker 3: I hadn't been in LA that long, but I had
Speaker 3: been there long enough to know that we talk about
Speaker 3: the Clippers like there was no there weren't two teams
Speaker 3: in LA. I don't I don't care what anyone I mean,
Speaker 3: there just there just wasn't you know, that totally changed.
Speaker 3: I mean to your point exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, you win the Pacific Division title number one
Speaker 3: in the West, and you you changed the culture to
Speaker 3: like you're at away games and it's sold out, whereas
Speaker 3: before you guys, I don't think there were many home sellouts.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's just uh, that's just a reality.
Speaker 3: I that's the rising to me. Well, I ultimately, I
Speaker 3: think you should feel really good about that. I feel
Speaker 3: like you and the rest of the guys, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I think what you said earlier, I mean you
Speaker 3: called it a transition team. I don't really know what
Speaker 3: that means, but you definitely began a style of basketball
Speaker 3: that Okay, maybe the Warriors took over.
Speaker 2: They also have like the greatest shooter of all time.
Speaker 2: I mean I think you can you can now call
Speaker 2: him that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you could, you could call him that like five
Speaker 1: years ago.
Speaker 2: Sorry but just saying now, but now you definitely.
Speaker 1: Now you know what, I'm just now realizing. You got
Speaker 1: to give it to Steph. You're pretty good, pretty good now.
Speaker 1: Before I was like I was on the fence.
Speaker 3: Well, and look, you got to meet me early on.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about think about that. Think about that.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm not even kidding, Like that's what I was
Speaker 1: talking about when I didn't realize what going to play
Speaker 1: in LA was all about, Like it just never crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. But like the amount of like people that
Speaker 1: I got to meet and like, you know, we're at games,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like fans of and it was
Speaker 1: really cool because it just wasn't like a thing that
Speaker 1: I really thought about until it was happening. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: consider myself so lucky, so lucky to have been able
Speaker 1: to do the things I've done. And you know what,
Speaker 1: shooting that spot with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Told you it's a massive fan of the office.
Speaker 2: So it was like, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know you. My recollection is this, you played
Speaker 2: it very cool. One two, I was in this awkward
Speaker 2: phase where.
Speaker 3: You know, that was the second year that I had
Speaker 3: shot this and and I was meeting a bunch of
Speaker 3: people and I didn't even start at the beginning, but
Speaker 3: I was because I'm not a I'm a I mean
Speaker 3: a huge sports fan. I was a big fan of
Speaker 3: yours from watching even in Oklahoma. And someone was like,
Speaker 3: you know, you should like get some merch or something,
Speaker 3: and maybe you were the first one I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like. So this was like year two. I
Speaker 2: finally was like, well, yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I would never go up to someone and ask
Speaker 3: them to sign something if I didn't like, but now
Speaker 3: I'm like working with them, and so I don't know
Speaker 3: if you remember this, I still haven't. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna send and post a picture of this as well.
Speaker 3: It's down in my office.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I should I should have
Speaker 2: him signed something. I stole a ball from that gym.
Speaker 1: That we was red and blue.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't red and blue, but it had like I
Speaker 3: think it was like property of something. But it was
Speaker 3: definitely a used high school basketball that I was like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'll just take this. And I
Speaker 3: had you sign a basketball and you signed it, and
Speaker 3: I still I still have it.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.
Speaker 3: And now that you're retired, I'm hoping it's gonna be
Speaker 3: worth a lot more because now I have this signed stuff.
Speaker 1: Probably not, It's gotta be honest, man, I should have
Speaker 1: got I should I should have got off it. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You congratulations on the retirement. I mean, that's a long
Speaker 3: career to have played thirteen years in the association, to
Speaker 3: have had such great success. Why did you stop where
Speaker 3: you just you were done with the grind of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I I mean I loved every minute of
Speaker 1: basketball the last couple of years. You know, as you
Speaker 1: get older, dude, I've had nine surgeries in my.
Speaker 2: Career, and that's crazy, you know.
Speaker 1: And like really like fought hard to get back from
Speaker 1: each one and felt like I did for a long time.
Speaker 1: But then you just start slowing down. And I was
Speaker 1: at the point where, like you know, dude, you got
Speaker 1: to take You're taking my anti inflammatories. You're like, you know,
Speaker 1: you to tie it. There's just like all the things
Speaker 1: that go along with basketball, and when you're not playing
Speaker 1: as much, you have to work, Like in practice days,
Speaker 1: you work twice as hard because if you're playing a
Speaker 1: lot of minutes, like you can't go in and work
Speaker 1: hard on an off day. But if you're not playing
Speaker 1: that much, you have to stay in like elite shape.
Speaker 1: And so it just like was aware on my body,
Speaker 1: you know, nine months out of the year, ten months,
Speaker 1: depending on how far you go in the playoffs, you know,
Speaker 1: where I was just like, I don't think I can
Speaker 1: give as much as I really need to, more so
Speaker 1: mentally than physically. And it was just it was time.
Speaker 1: And I have a ten year old son and a
Speaker 1: seven year old daughter that I think it was just
Speaker 1: time for me to to to move on. And I
Speaker 1: feel super at peace with it. You know, when you retire,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I hope you're doing okay, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy, so happy. You know, that's one of
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 2: Did you did you watch basketball this year?
Speaker 1: I watched the least amount of basketball I ever had,
Speaker 1: but I kept up with it. I would watch here
Speaker 1: and there. I would I would check out scores. I
Speaker 1: would see how you know, buddies were doing. There was
Speaker 1: some there was like clips and games I watched like
Speaker 1: if an old coach like ever was like, hey, let
Speaker 1: me pick your brain about this, Yeah, send me clips.
Speaker 1: So I'd send clips and I you know, would get
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'd give them whatever advice I could
Speaker 1: possibly give. But you know, and just checking in on guys.
Speaker 1: You know, you see guys going through a slump and
Speaker 1: you reach out and stuff like that. But I didn't
Speaker 1: watch as much basketball as I you know, normally during
Speaker 1: the season, dude on, Like I was just at home.
Speaker 1: I would watch East Coast games, the West Coast game.
Speaker 1: I'd watch games all night. It's definitely different this year.
Speaker 2: Is there a team are you a fan of? Blank?
Speaker 2: Is there a team that you root for?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the guys in Boston. I love those
Speaker 1: guys and I hope they win this year and I
Speaker 1: think they have a great shot. Denver is going to
Speaker 1: be really good again. And then other than that, I watch,
Speaker 1: you know, guys like teammates from before. Who are the teams?
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of guys who I like, love I
Speaker 1: mean love Washing, but I loved watching women Yama play
Speaker 1: this year. I'm so excited to see I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to get one to not ever have to play against
Speaker 1: him too, just like to see his career. I hope
Speaker 1: he stays healthy because he just seems like he's just
Speaker 1: so mentally past everyone his age, and then physically he's
Speaker 1: passed everyone, you know what I mean? In four years,
Speaker 1: Washington play, Washington play against Yiannis, like the guys who
Speaker 1: just absolutely bully people you know, are just longer than
Speaker 1: like Washington play against those guys and just like be
Speaker 1: able to like get up and block a shot or finish.
Speaker 1: It's a I think he's going to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. Anybody knows, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: a secret. But I'm so excited to watch him. Other
Speaker 1: than that, just teammates who I've played with before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you may be retired from basketball, but you are
Speaker 3: not retired.
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a comedian?
Speaker 1: Not? No, I don't want to be like a stand
Speaker 1: up comedian. I've done it from time to time. I
Speaker 1: love comedy so much. I love doing little acting things
Speaker 1: here and there. It's just like it was always fun
Speaker 1: for me to do in the off season. But I
Speaker 1: like started production company years ago with my buddy Ryan Khalil,
Speaker 1: and you know, we had an Apple TV show come
Speaker 1: out Coolhella Tomorrow, We did a remake to White McCann Jump.
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of other stuff and in the pipeline.
Speaker 1: That's what I really love, Like the creative process when
Speaker 1: it comes to comedy. I love it, like thinking of
Speaker 1: the idea, like pitching, you know, the whole thing, from
Speaker 1: beginning to end. I truly love it. So there's some
Speaker 1: projects that I'm working on now that I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about that I will maybe get to do personally now
Speaker 1: that I'm done, and it'll be in the comedy realm.
Speaker 1: But now I don't really consider myself a comedian per se.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you mentioned a couple White Man Can't
Speaker 3: Jump remake, a Hulu Hello Tomorrow at Apple TV, plus
Speaker 3: working mostly as a producer.
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I loved it.
Speaker 2: You loved this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the creative process. It's crazy because like the first
Speaker 1: conversation I ever had about doing a White Men Can't
Speaker 1: Jump reimagine it was twenty seventeen, I met with Kenya
Speaker 1: Bears and I was like, that's one of my favorite films.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see how it looks in this world today.
Speaker 1: I know people get upset or remakes, but it's like, right,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun because that movie came out before
Speaker 1: the Dream Team had even right one like Basketball, it
Speaker 1: is so different, fashion so different, but they're two very
Speaker 1: very relative things today. And then on top of that,
Speaker 1: the conversations of race and what it means to be black,
Speaker 1: when it means to be white, and how those two coincide.
Speaker 1: We're still having those exact same conversations, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So that was like why I wanted to do that,
Speaker 1: But you know, it's twenty seventeen to like when we
Speaker 1: started shooting May of twenty twenty two, I remember I
Speaker 1: looked at it. I looked at our head of development,
Speaker 1: a person in government. I was like, I can't believe
Speaker 1: we're actually here right now, Like multiple scripts and multiple
Speaker 1: regime changes, Disney acquiring Fox is just insane. So I
Speaker 1: do love the process.
Speaker 2: It's it is insane. Well that's good one.
Speaker 3: That's another way that we are similar and this and
Speaker 3: this time I'm not joking the business of television, the
Speaker 3: business of entertainment is fascinating to me. I love it
Speaker 3: as well. You can either get frustrated or you can
Speaker 3: embrace it and you know, ride the wave. But it
Speaker 3: got made. That's good too. You think of it this way.
Speaker 3: Your development director got paid for five years instead of one.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a bonus for them, whoever they are.
Speaker 3: So there's all.
Speaker 2: There's always a reason to keep push. Yeah, let's do
Speaker 2: this in the next cycle.
Speaker 3: But you've also done performing working with fun of your Die,
Speaker 3: comedy by Blake, you were on broad City and stuff
Speaker 3: with Whitney Cummings. Let me tell you this, you really
Speaker 3: make me laugh. So I'm not the arbiter of all
Speaker 3: things funny, even though everyone else says that I am.
Speaker 3: I will tell you I'm not. But I you have,
Speaker 3: honestly a very fresh, unique perspective and take, and I
Speaker 3: hope you continue to work and at some point point
Speaker 3: give me a job because ultimately that's the only thing
Speaker 3: that I care about is my own ability to further
Speaker 3: my career.
Speaker 2: Wow, I said that weird career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, it's fine. The whole thing that you
Speaker 1: said was was weird too, So like, don't don't let
Speaker 1: the just the word career slow you down, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just it wasn't weird. I guess it's just so
Speaker 1: immensely selfish, which obviously we've got to know each other.
Speaker 1: I know that's just you. So don't even worry about.
Speaker 2: It, man, Right, I said career weird?
Speaker 1: Right, honestly, didn't hear it?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: It may it made in those those headphones you got
Speaker 1: are the beautiful studio microphone instead of an iPhone.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what's unique about your setup here today
Speaker 3: is that you still have the plug in as opposed
Speaker 3: to the AirPods.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, can I I'm just I was told
Speaker 1: to wait in headphones. I can pull up the email.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll blast it out. I'll blast it out.
Speaker 1: Screenshot on the Instagram. It wasn't written by pain to
Speaker 1: plug in headphones.
Speaker 2: No, that's right. And you did well, you did very
Speaker 2: very well in.
Speaker 1: This thing where I try to not use Bluetooth as much.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: So I ordered these for my iPhone And.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know the truth, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't use them ever, No, it's my don't.
Speaker 1: Man, I think it's smart. I don't use microwaves either.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think.
Speaker 2: Microwave, don't use the microwaves at all.
Speaker 1: I mean I've probably used a microwave in the last
Speaker 1: like ten years. I've probably used a microwave like once
Speaker 1: a year maybe on average, like when there's no other option.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that might be a little bit of
Speaker 3: an exaggeration, but I'm actually with you. Here's here's the
Speaker 3: weird thing. Okay, let's actually if we can have some
Speaker 3: doctors right in. This is a serious thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I moved into a new house and it has a
Speaker 3: built in microwave. Okay, now the microwave. There's an island.
Speaker 3: I have an island in my house, and the microwave
Speaker 3: is built into the island, which means that the microwave
Speaker 3: is right at the same level and adjacent to.
Speaker 2: My pelvic region.
Speaker 3: Now this when I have used it, and I don't
Speaker 3: use mine very much either, But when I do, I
Speaker 3: hit the button and kind of step back real quick.
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel safe. Am I wrong about that? Is
Speaker 4: this from our childhood? Is this bad? I mean, is
Speaker 4: this is this bad intel? Or it just doesn't seem
Speaker 4: like it's safe, right?
Speaker 1: I think you're right, you know, I think you should
Speaker 1: do is get one of those X ray things you
Speaker 1: just tied around your waist, and then the kitchen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's that joke about you know, the x ray technician
Speaker 1: is like yeah, safe, no words, and they run off
Speaker 1: and hide behind what could be considered like a bomb, like.
Speaker 2: A drape themselves. No, it's totally fine.
Speaker 1: There's no way microwaves can be healthy. It's like we're
Speaker 1: zapping our food with micro waves. Obviously, not to get
Speaker 1: too scientific on you there.
Speaker 2: Ryan, I never really thought about it, but no, that
Speaker 2: makes sense, right, And then we're.
Speaker 1: Eating that food like obviously, but not only like what
Speaker 1: you're saying where you step back, but like smart by
Speaker 1: the way, but like then we're also just just eating
Speaker 1: that food like there's there's it can't.
Speaker 2: Be right, right, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Maybe we started a little maybe we start a separate podcast.
Speaker 1: No microwave thought.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Is the microwave industry a powerful industry that I don't
Speaker 3: want to anger.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, or they I.
Speaker 1: Feel like everybody that makes microwaves also makes like ovens,
Speaker 1: or they make like toaster ovens.
Speaker 3: And the ovens are probably more expensive. Yeah, they probably
Speaker 3: would rather sell ovens, so in a way we would
Speaker 3: be helping them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we get we get big Microwave to back us,
Speaker 1: put in a little money.
Speaker 2: Big big microwave, big wave, big wave companies. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't seem safe, but yeah, I I
Speaker 3: don't to your point, I don't know what kind of
Speaker 3: energy it is. But shoving energy that is transmitting to
Speaker 3: another device inside my head, just intellectually, it just doesn't.
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it's a great thing to do,
Speaker 3: does not, does it?
Speaker 2: I agree, we're onto something, we're on or we're on
Speaker 2: something one one or the other. Just to you listen, uh,
Speaker 2: good luck again.
Speaker 3: You have my number now, so when you you have
Speaker 3: something interesting project wise, you give me a call. All right,
Speaker 3: it's got to be interesting though, Okay. Well, other than that,
Speaker 3: we will we will play some really slow golf and
Speaker 3: now I'll be playing with a champion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome and that, and you know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: work on this slow thing. No one told me, but
Speaker 1: so thanks for telling me.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like everyone told you. I feel
Speaker 3: like it became Oh really, yeah, I feel like it was.
Speaker 3: It was sort of commonly said I had to put
Speaker 3: Blake on a on a shot clock.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you were doing a shot clock thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, counting down.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, maybe you should play a little
Speaker 1: slower next year and you'll win. Sorry, man, I was
Speaker 1: just lashing out. It felt like you came at me.
Speaker 2: I feel like, no, it's I mean, it's it is
Speaker 2: a fair point. Uh.
Speaker 3: Are you a fan of the play in? Yes, it
Speaker 3: generates interest, it keeps more people involved exactly, and it
Speaker 3: does it does kind of suck. Like who wasn't New
Speaker 3: Orleans was? I think they were the sixth seed and
Speaker 3: then like they maybe two games and they went and
Speaker 3: had to play the plan and luckily they still got in.
Speaker 3: But it does suck for most teams that like, if
Speaker 3: it's jumbled at five to six and you have a
Speaker 3: couple of back games or you have just like a
Speaker 3: two minor injuries, the guys need to take a couple
Speaker 3: of games off, like your season could be over instead
Speaker 3: of you know, getting a favorable matchup in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: That sucks, but it does generate a lot of interest
Speaker 3: and also the end season tournament kind of the same way,
Speaker 3: like more people were watching those games than usually watch
Speaker 3: games during that point.
Speaker 2: Of the season.
Speaker 3: During that time, Yeah, yeah, Minnesota for real? Do they
Speaker 3: have a shot that winning?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think they're for real. But I like,
Speaker 1: I would say Denver's like the favorite in my favorite
Speaker 1: in the West in Boston's Like, I don't see them
Speaker 1: beating Denver or Boston, but could happened, for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: Rudy's playing unbelievable defense, Anthony Edwards is an absolute stud
Speaker 1: and then their pieces around are so solid that yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean for sure, could happen again. You never know,
Speaker 1: they get matched up with Denver and somebody goes down.
Speaker 1: Hopefully doesn't happen, but they could get there, right.
Speaker 3: I just I do want to point out that you
Speaker 3: picked the two consensus favorites.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, well, guess what, I also picked
Speaker 1: Yukon before they won. So what's that mean, Scot. There's
Speaker 1: a reason their favorite the best team also, but also
Speaker 1: Denver's other than two seed Oklahoma City. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: pick Oklahoma City there the one seed.
Speaker 2: Are you an Oklahoma City fan because you're from Oklahoma? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy is like they the first
Speaker 1: year that Oklahoma City got a team was my last
Speaker 1: year in college, so I like I didn't grow up
Speaker 1: with them, so it's kind of weird where like I
Speaker 1: basically got into the league as they were starting out,
Speaker 1: so it was like I obviously would have been if
Speaker 1: they were there prior, but I just was never like
Speaker 1: a fan fan. But yeah, I want to him do well.
Speaker 1: Still still love Ulchoma City.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: NBA playoff basketball is very exciting. My TV is on
Speaker 3: every night. I wish you all the best. Good luck, Yeah,
Speaker 3: good luck with everything.
Speaker 2: Media. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's get the golf game tuned up and
Speaker 3: then we'll play again.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Man, appreciate it. Thanks for having.
Speaker 3: Me, Thanks buddy, Blake. Great to have you on my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. I'm gonna see
Speaker 3: you soon, I hope. And thanks for all your insight
Speaker 3: into the NBA playoffs. I will be watching mostly to
Speaker 3: see if the Celtics and Nuggets do play in the finals.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Listeners.
Speaker 3: Come back next week right here, same place, same channel
Speaker 3: for another listening adventure. It's gonna be fun, really will be.
Speaker 3: Blake won't be here, so it'll be great. Until then,
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