WEBVTT - Blake Griffin

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<v Speaker 1>I remember putting on you know, Oklahoma, you never wear

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<v Speaker 1>pants during the summer is so hot, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I put it like at our school, you had to

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<v Speaker 1>wear pants at private school. And I put on my

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<v Speaker 1>lash previous year's pants. I was like, Oh, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, my name is Blake Griffin and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been Brian's idle for upwards of thirteen years now. So enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, one and all.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Off the Beat and I am, as always

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<v Speaker 3>your Off the Beat host Brian Bomgartner my guest today, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he could absolutely dunk on you because he is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best dunkers in NBA history. As you just heard,

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<v Speaker 3>I have the Blake Griffin on the show with me today.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a former member of Lob City, the Los

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<v Speaker 3>Angeles Clippers, as well as a member of the Detroit Pistons,

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<v Speaker 3>Brooklyn Nets, and Boston Celtics. But as a kid, he

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<v Speaker 3>could have his pick playing either football, baseball, basketball. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just an all around athlete who luckily chose to grace

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA with his prowess. He is a power forward,

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<v Speaker 3>extraordinary and extremely funny guy and a pretty medium golfer,

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<v Speaker 3>if I do say so myself. So I guess when

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<v Speaker 3>I said great athlete, he's a mid athlete at golf.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine. He's got plenty of strings. I have had

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<v Speaker 3>the good fortune of getting to know Blake over the

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<v Speaker 3>past decade or so. He taught me how to dunk

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<v Speaker 3>back in twenty eleven. So I'm glad that you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get to know him today. Here he is Blake, Griffin.

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<v Speaker 1>And squeak.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak. I cook at every mon.

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<v Speaker 1>Lift over from the ninety boat.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you in a little professional booth over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I am nothing if not professional.

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. That's what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is what they say. Thanks for dressing

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<v Speaker 3>up for me today. Now, I just sent you a photo.

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<v Speaker 3>We had this conversation this week twenty eleven. Yeah, twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 3>Blake and I shot something for a series of specials

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing on NBC.

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<v Speaker 2>I will share it on social media. I just sent

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<v Speaker 2>you that photo. I feel like my form is pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like I'm down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just take a look again? Just to yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you can warm. Do you maybe honest? Or you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to just do the thing where I'm like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the ball, you just got the ball way too

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<v Speaker 1>close to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the I think that's this perspective of

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<v Speaker 2>the cale.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, probably just the angle. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's just the angle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, listen, you you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you just join a team for the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>and see if see if they need some help.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you considered calling them, just throw out

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<v Speaker 2>a line like Tom Brady, like, I mean, if anyone

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<v Speaker 2>calls I'm here, yeah, maybe really.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe no, I'm finish, You're done, I'm done, done, done.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well we're gonna we're gonna talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw very clever by the way on social media

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<v Speaker 3>that you had to retire to finally get a trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just with Blake this last weekend in Las

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<v Speaker 3>Vegas the Win Hotel for the eight AM Golf Championship

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<v Speaker 3>Invitational Celebrity Celebrity Ternament featuring Justin Timberlake. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the title of it, eight am Golf. They certainly

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<v Speaker 3>are a lot of fun. I had fun playing with you.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it playing with me?

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<v Speaker 1>It was? It was, man, I'm almost at a loss

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<v Speaker 1>for words. It was a very surreal. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful experience, It really was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had so much fun. How it works,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like for people who don't know, you play with

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<v Speaker 1>a different group, front nine and back nine. So we

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<v Speaker 1>played the back nine of day one and boy, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you, things went off the rails. It was fun, man,

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And Blake and Chandler Parsons ended up winning the Chance

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<v Speaker 3>Beach Chip. Now, did you come down hard down the stretch?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what happened? Because I thought you were out

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<v Speaker 3>of it at that point. I mean, after playing with

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<v Speaker 3>you on day one, I thought, yeah, they don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the staying power. I mean, I don't mean that anyway

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<v Speaker 3>except exactly how it sounded.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I just meant it in the worst way possible. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate that. Thanks for clarifying that. Actually either way.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started out the front nine of day two,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we were we were second place after day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Day two, well, we played solid on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>first day Day two, the front nine was rough because

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<v Speaker 1>we got strokes. We had, you know, the bogie with

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<v Speaker 1>the max you could take for what hast to play

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. There was a couple holes where we

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<v Speaker 1>stroked and those were like our bogie holes, so we

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<v Speaker 1>actually got to put in a par got it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that helped. And then the last two holes par five

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<v Speaker 1>and the part four birdie birdie, but birdie for eagle

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<v Speaker 1>because we stroked. So we ended up like we were

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<v Speaker 1>like two under on the front nine and then we

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<v Speaker 1>ended up six under on the front nine. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like our strokes really helped.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean for those of you who need strokes,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. I understand that that's you were good.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's how it worked. Here's the here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jimmy fallon playing with tournament host, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>can safely say that if we don't have the title

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<v Speaker 3>right tournament host justin Timberlake, I feel like everyone wanted

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<v Speaker 3>them to win. Now is that just a perception thing

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<v Speaker 3>on my part or no?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so they technically did you know, they were like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minus thirty two hunder. But they don't. They weren't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna they weren't going to accept a win, like they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't going to win their own thing. Oh yeah, they won.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat us like five strokes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I thought, so this, now this is starting to

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<v Speaker 3>make way more sense because I thought they had an

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<v Speaker 3>insurmountable lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we wouldn't have. I mean, we wouldn't. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a sniffed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, then that legitimizes the whole thing to me a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more that you guys actually did it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was you know, Justin got hurt. There was people

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<v Speaker 3>hitting shots for him. I mean, you know, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a whole thing going on. Well, congratulations, How did it

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<v Speaker 3>feel the moment you were handed that trophy, Blake, How

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<v Speaker 3>did it feel one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the biggest sporting accomplishments of my life? Yeah, fig

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<v Speaker 1>it actually did. Because we were tied with the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who were leading, Archie and Adrian Gonzales. We were tied

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<v Speaker 1>with them going into eighteen. They were already finished and

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<v Speaker 1>we popped them the last hole as well, So we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, all we got to do is get a

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<v Speaker 1>ball in the green and two putt Part three last week.

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<v Speaker 1>So and we both got laying on the green, picked

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<v Speaker 1>a better putt, two putted for the win, and felt good.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations, Thanks man.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're it feels like you're saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't quite need Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great time playing with you. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the slowest call for that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I know some slow ones. Yeah, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm up there? Are you about to set up something here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I wasn't gonna set it up. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna say it. I mean, whoever you think is slow,

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<v Speaker 3>you're slower. Okay, let's be let's be clear about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think so. All right, Well, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know what you're really what you punish us with slowness,

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<v Speaker 3>you get back in fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing. I gotta work on it. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever told me that. So I'll get faster next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play in my co like an hour thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe so much. You're just gonna You're just gonna run.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of It's the first tournament I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever played in that that shirts came off around the course.

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<v Speaker 3>It was uh, well, it was it was it was fun,

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<v Speaker 3>it was very it was Let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get back into your beginnings, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do want to ask you this. Are you the most

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<v Speaker 3>powerful dunker since Shack?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's like, okay, so let's go through. There's Dominique, Wilkins,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Camp, shack On obviously, but Shacks was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's so powerful, and I guess Earlyiam's career got

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<v Speaker 1>up pretty high, but he was like true big man,

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<v Speaker 1>want to hand, you know, just as ran as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. I think Dominique and Sean Camp both like

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<v Speaker 1>jumped really high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were super powerful.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know, I'm Sean Kemp. That's a that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good one. I mean Barkley no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just didn't like like no one thinks of

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley and thinks dunks. No, he obviously could and he

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<v Speaker 1>had some good ones. But like those two Dominique and

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Camp, like those two.

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<v Speaker 3>Are like Sean Camp, I didn't think of Sean Camp.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good that's a good one there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean both well before you, who do you think is

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<v Speaker 3>the most powerful man in the game right now now

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<v Speaker 3>that you've retired?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Zion, not even close. Yeah, he's like two seventy

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to eighty maybe two ninety, have no idea, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like six seven. He's not like super tall.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he only six seven?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not super tall, but I mean how high

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<v Speaker 1>he jumps and the force he creates. I took a

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<v Speaker 1>charge from him one time three I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn to get charge from him, and he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kicked me in the shin, you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of it, right, And I had like a I

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<v Speaker 1>had like a lump, like a lump, decide, like half

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<v Speaker 1>of a golf ball on my shin, which you think,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just bump. Where where's the bump coming from? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I had it for like a month

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<v Speaker 1>and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Geez.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in hindsight, probably shouldn't have taken the charge. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, Bri, I like to put like to

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<v Speaker 1>put my body on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you know, did you get did you get the call?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I got charge?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Your your lob City days and the power with which

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<v Speaker 3>you played. The game obviously made you incredibly popular because

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<v Speaker 3>that's just fun to watch. But like you said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you're putting yourself on the line both both as the

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<v Speaker 3>aggressor and the receiver at times. And so yeah, I was,

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<v Speaker 3>as I knew I was going to talk to you today,

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering if there was anybody else. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned Zion, which is obviously a great one that

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<v Speaker 3>that you sort of that you feel like plays in

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<v Speaker 3>that same way that you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think like physically it's him. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>other guys that are pretty physical. But when you like

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<v Speaker 1>add in like dunks and like just like you know, Zion,

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<v Speaker 1>just like just pure athletics and athleticism, we'll just he'll

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<v Speaker 1>beat you.

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<v Speaker 2>How tall are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Six nine?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Six ten with shoes if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To, I feel like I'm growing or you're shrinking, because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I feel like we were kind of close, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe maybe we'll let let people decide when they

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<v Speaker 1>when they look at that picture. It also could just

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<v Speaker 1>be the angle, you know, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Could No, I think it might just it might have

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<v Speaker 3>just been the angle. You grew up in Oklahoma. Your

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<v Speaker 3>brother played, you played with him, and uh and and

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<v Speaker 3>your dad was a big athlete as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He ran track right At Northwestern Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>He played he played basketball and football.

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball and football.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dual sport college guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he back then they wouldn't let freshmen play on

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<v Speaker 1>the varsity, Okay, so he really wanted to play both,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I just want to play like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he wasn't looking for like and also

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<v Speaker 1>back then this was this would have been he went

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<v Speaker 1>to college in sixty eight, so like professional sports, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't weren't what they are today, right, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was just like, I just want to play both.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to the Northwestern do that? So he yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>had that was actually at home recently that was going

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<v Speaker 1>through his old like memorability. He had like multiple forty

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<v Speaker 1>rebound games really at like six or four. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a center playing six four at sixty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you obviously didn't see him do that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>did he did he play the same way you played?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably, I don't know. I didn't see him play. All

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<v Speaker 1>I go off of now is like seeing clips, like

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<v Speaker 1>articles like that, and like his teammates selling stories and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew he I know he can jump out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gym. I know that for a fact. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's it's kind of all I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Exacly, sports was a big part of your life growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you grow so? Did you grow tall fast? Were

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<v Speaker 2>you big? Early?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like always the tallest kid in my gray,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, always the tallest one on my team. And

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<v Speaker 1>but then like end of my eighth grade year, so

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<v Speaker 1>like end of May, I was six one and I

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<v Speaker 1>was I guess I just turned fourteen. Yeah, And then

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of my freshman year, so two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>months later, I was like six six six six six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. So I grew like five and a

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<v Speaker 1>half inches and two and a half months, and like

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<v Speaker 1>stretch marks on my shoulders, like stretch marks on my hips.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what was going on? I remember putting on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Oklahoma you never wear pants during the summer

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<v Speaker 1>is so hot, and I remember I put it like

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<v Speaker 1>at our school, you had to wear pants at private school.

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<v Speaker 1>And I put on my lash previous year's pants, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, he's not gonna work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not gonna work. You played baseball, I heard first

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<v Speaker 3>base something else we have in common pitch. That was

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<v Speaker 3>the first basement. Yeah, I pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite sport?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was the best at baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably liked basketball the best growing up. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like now it's you know, just I'm kind of all

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<v Speaker 3>in on the football deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did not play. I think it was my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad, he wasn't as interested in football. He was

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<v Speaker 3>also a doctor, and I think that maybe subconsciously that

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<v Speaker 3>was a part of it, Like he just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>didn't steer me in that direction, which is crazy even

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<v Speaker 3>back then, I mean didn't know at all what we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, know, the potential is now, So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>ever like stated, but I kind of later on I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of wondered about that. But you were friends with

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Bradford.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we grew up like not not too far from

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<v Speaker 1>each other, play all kinds of sports against with growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then obviously we went to the University of Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>together too, So it's pretty cool. I've I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>known him forever.

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<v Speaker 2>What's harder to be better at football or basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so biased. Well, if you're playing quarterback, you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>like something like that, like insanely hard. I mean you've

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<v Speaker 1>got so many responsibilities. Right, Like I always felt like

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<v Speaker 1>football was easier for me just because I played like

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, I played tight end, I played like safety

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end. Like so it was just like in high

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<v Speaker 1>school is obviously different, but it's just like just go

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<v Speaker 1>just go run and catch or go do this. Whereas basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like you gotta be able to dribble,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be able to shoot, gotta you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on. So I think like there's

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<v Speaker 1>just more things that you have to do if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just a basketball player. Now when it comes to you know, quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, like that's that's a that's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different level. And then football you got to take take

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<v Speaker 1>an account the absolute beating right right right right. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know what's harder.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think the thing that I don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what you think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't talk about this this weekend, but like there

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<v Speaker 3>is and let's just call this is a terrible, like

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<v Speaker 3>simplistic way to say it, but let's just say AAU

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<v Speaker 3>basketball like what people sort of refer to as AAU basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>which is run up and down the court, shoot it

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<v Speaker 3>from every which away and try to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do big dugs. But there's something about that Clippers team

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<v Speaker 2>that I refer to before.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I would also say, so, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a hater of them or not, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was sort of almost from well if you take like

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<v Speaker 3>the showtime Lakers, look at you guys, what you were

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<v Speaker 3>doing at the Clippers, and then like what the Warriors

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<v Speaker 3>were doing sort of at their peak, which is moving

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<v Speaker 3>so well in space, and that the idea anyway that

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<v Speaker 3>you're making a play a pass, dribbling to a spot

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<v Speaker 3>for that like you're playing chess as opposed to checkers

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<v Speaker 3>or aa, like you're making a play for three passes later,

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<v Speaker 3>and that for me is so much fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like you don't see that often and

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<v Speaker 3>you certainly don't think about it, but when you when

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<v Speaker 3>you see it happen, it's so beautiful and to me,

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<v Speaker 3>the most beautiful game that there is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like it. I mean, it's obviously now way more

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<v Speaker 1>of a commonplace. And if you look at like the finals,

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<v Speaker 1>even like the early two thousands, finals, game scores would

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<v Speaker 1>be eighty five, eighty nine, ninety to ninety two whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was. And now I mean teams are still scoring

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<v Speaker 1>plus one ten, you know what I mean. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember what everybody ended up with last night, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know Minnesota scored over one hundred and fourteen maybe, I

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever. All these teams are just like the pace

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<v Speaker 1>of playing is so much faster and everybody's philosophy, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>because of the Warriors. We were a big transition team

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<v Speaker 1>with the Clippers. The Warriors were obviously like get up

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<v Speaker 1>as many threes as possible, shoot it early, or get

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<v Speaker 1>to the rim. They want to dump the layups and threes.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're starting to see everybody do that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like when we came in, that was sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>the Dirk was like obviously a power forward who was

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<v Speaker 1>shooting threes, Kevin Love was and then now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably hard to find a team with a power

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<v Speaker 1>forward who's not shooting four threes. Again, right, there's definitely outliers.

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<v Speaker 1>But like you're right though, getting back to the point

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<v Speaker 1>of like how teams move the ball, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what Yukon on the men's college side does so well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Their offense is like the closest thing I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that they they are an NBA team, but how they

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<v Speaker 1>move and their sets like that Hurley does such a

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<v Speaker 1>good job because their sets are so you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>ball go this way, there's an action on the backside.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody comes off, but it's not for him. He turns

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<v Speaker 1>and says for somebody to rip screen down. Somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>comes up, and then the guy who initially started moving

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<v Speaker 1>in the first part somehow comes back around and he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a shot. They're there, and their defense too, is

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot like an NBA team's defense. So like

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<v Speaker 1>watching them play in the tournament. In the conference tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no one is going to touch them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hate to be the guy at the end

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<v Speaker 1>after they wanted it. But I was telling like multiple

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<v Speaker 1>people like, dude, Yukon is so good. Their offensive defense

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<v Speaker 1>are so fun to watch, and that's a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like how the better NBA teams play.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you four time high school champion, undefeated your freshman year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Oklahoma Christian, you're playing baseball, you're playing football

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<v Speaker 3>at three positions in football at least, and you're playing basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>When for you did you decide basketball was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Was?

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<v Speaker 2>It? This growth spurt the six inches.

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<v Speaker 1>Now because I still played. I played football my freshman year, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I came to the team late my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>We played for my dad, like you said, and came

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<v Speaker 1>to the team late, barely made the varsity team, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really play much, sort of worked my way up and

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<v Speaker 1>I got into like the state championship game and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like our toughest game of the season. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>played the semi final game of the game before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was kind of bummed about it. And my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad, my dad. We got home and he was like, hey, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing that, Like, wipe that whatever you got

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<v Speaker 1>on your face, Like wipe that attitude off. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he the game. We're like, I think we're maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>down to which was shocking for us because we just

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<v Speaker 1>dominated that season. And my brother was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the best player in the state and he was just killing,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're down. He turns the bench and goes blake

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like me and I check in the

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<v Speaker 1>game right before the end of the first half and

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<v Speaker 1>first play some reason, they threw it to me on

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<v Speaker 1>the block for some reason. To this day, I've told

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<v Speaker 1>this to multiple people. I still don't know why. I

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<v Speaker 1>because I was very like because my dad was a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very disciplined. Like I was just play the play

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<v Speaker 1>the way I've been asked to play. Catching on the block,

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<v Speaker 1>post move, fade away jumper, going to the middle, fadeaway jumper.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes in. I'm already backpedaling back. It goes in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember, like the crowd. You know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to play at the it's called the Big House and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, huge craft, ten thousand people, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd and I remember like the chills like going

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<v Speaker 1>through my body, and I remember being like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it, this is like this is what I like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I ended up like came back down, my brother

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<v Speaker 1>made a move, They came in, doubled, let me passed

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<v Speaker 1>off to me. Later it in. I think I got

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<v Speaker 1>another lay up come out. I ended up going back

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half and we ended up winning. From

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<v Speaker 1>then on, I was just like, that's this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this is what I'm supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that there's specific moment that you remember, and there's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like other moments too, Like that was like the earliest one.

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<v Speaker 1>Where I was like, oh no, no, I think I can

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<v Speaker 1>maybe do this. And I wasn't even thinking NBA. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just playing like I want to be. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to always be like my brother, and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>the person I was always chasing, and he was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was already committed to go to Oklahoma at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, that's what I want to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go play college basketball. And then there's moments

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<v Speaker 1>where you realize, Okay, maybe I can go play in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA and so on.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys won, as I said, four straight state championships,

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 3>and I hear Oklahoma Christian just this last month won

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 3>a state title again. There's a kid by the name

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 3>of Luke Gray who plays there, who just passed you, Blake.

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm told breaking news here from the studio that he

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 3>just passed you as the all time leader leading scorer

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 3>in school history. I mean, how does that make you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, are you proud of the kid or are

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 3>you look at that don't be nice?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to be honest, holding out high school scoring

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>record for an individual, it is awesome. It's awesome. I'm

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>super happy for him, But that's not something I would

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>be like we should still had.

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>That one, you know what I mean.

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so happy for him. That's a huge when you're

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in high school and you're doing.

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>That, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he'll go on to you know, play more

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>basketball and hopefully have a really long career, and it's awesome.

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm super happy for him. It's definitely not one of

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>those things where I'm like, I wish that had happened.

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I still hang on to that one. That's that's that's

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that's great for him. He's a great player.

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 3>You get recruited by Duke Kansas North Carolina. I read

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 3>you decide to go follow your brother to Oklahoma?

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Now? Is that because your brother was there?

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>That was a huge reason I initially wasn't going to

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.479
<v Speaker 1>go there. My brother was recruited by Kelvin Samson, went

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and played for Kelvin Sampson for his freshman year and

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>he got into some NCAA violations. They hired a young

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>coach at the time named Jeff Caple played at Duke.

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 1>He was like one of the youngest I think he's

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>one of the youngest Division one head coaches at the time. Yeah,

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>came from VCU and my brother came home one day

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I like really love like how

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>we're doing workouts, Like it's more like skill work. It's

0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>less like, you know, just same old you're you're a

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>big man, do this, you know. He was everybody was

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>working on their shot or but he was working on

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>their ball handling. It was he was like, I really think, like,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>if you want to, like this could be a great

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>place for you. And I developed a relationship with with

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>coach Kpele and still to this day, I have a

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 1>great relationship with him. And he was just like one

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>of those people that I felt like believed, like really

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>believed in me. He had asked me he had actually

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the other day I announced I was retired, and he

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>had a really cool post and meant a lot to me.

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>One of our first conversations, he was like, what are

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>your goals? And I was like, I want to play

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>college basketball when I you know, win a championship and

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll see what happens after that. And he

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>came and saw me play for the first time because

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>at the time he just got the job and you

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>reach out to recruits in state right away, can't watch

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>me play for the first time. And I remember the

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>next day after that tournament, he called, he texted me.

0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, can jump on the phone. I

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, sure. So we calls and he's like, hey, man,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I think you've got to change your goals. And I

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, well it's pretty cool, but like

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing. Confidence was ever like a huge issue for me.

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I knew who I was as a basketball player,

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and I just wasn't one of those guys. It was like, no,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to the NBA, I'm going to do this,

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>this and this. It was just like I'd seen so

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>many guys not make it, so many talented guys not

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>even make it to college. Right. My dad being a

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>high school basketball coach for years and years, I always

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.719
<v Speaker 1>looked up to his high school players and there were

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>so many guys and I was like, man, he's so good.

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Didn't make it in college, or did make it to college,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't play left da whatever. So it was just never

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing with me where I was like, oh, I'm

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>for sure I'm gonna make a career out of this.

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>You know. It was just like you play right, and

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>whatever happens happens. And my college coach, among you know,

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>amongst my parents and my brother, two of the biggest

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, or some of the biggest basketball influences on

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>my life.

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Yeah, were you planning to be one and done?

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, not at all. I didn't even think

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that was like, I mean, I guess there's there's a possibility,

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>but I had a chance to be I was, you know,

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season, I sort of had

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 1>a decision to make and I had to announce that

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I was coming back to college. People thought I was

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>going to leave. It was like I was probably like

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>a lottery but you know, not top five, I don't think,

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>probably maybe like more like eight to fourteen to sixteen.

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>And I just felt like I wasn't ready to be honest,

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed my development in college. I really wanted

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to come back and play with my brother his senior year.

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to try to you know, I set a

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>list to all these goals and I wanted to come back,

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and I decided to, and I'm so glad I did,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think I would have been as ready.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, you had some injuries that held you back.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Your MCL and your left knee.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 3>You're hurt against Kansas and then your right knee against

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 3>A and M you decide to come back. I mean, truly,

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 3>your sophomore season, your second and final, as it turns out,

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 3>season at the University of Oklahoma, one of the best

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>college seasons by any player ever. I appreciate that, right,

0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean no, you lead the NCAA and rebounding, lead

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 3>the Big Twelve in scoring Big Twelve records on rebounds,

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 3>thirty double doubles in college.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I read that, I'm like, is that right? That can't

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>be right?

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>You end up being, of course the number one pick

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>after that, Were you satisfied with what you accomplished in college?

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Satisfied? Now? I mean the biggest goal obviously is they

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>win a championship, and that think truly, it was like

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it was the one I made a goal list with

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>one of our assistant coaches, and I had it on

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a poster board and I put it up in my

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>apartment and checked off every single one but Big Twelve

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>chanceampion and national champion. That those are like the ones

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>that like being Truly the sounds corny, but being a

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>part of something that's like bigger than you is so rewarding.

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I can obviously speak on that

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>having just won a golf tournament.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>So I was gonna say, you and Chandler parties, Yeah,

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 3>being part of that.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Team, yeah jesus. So you know it truly is though,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like like winning a championship would have been awesome. That

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>would have been like I would have looked back and

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>been like, I am, there's nothing left to do in college,

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I eventually did leave, but it was

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>time for me to leave, but that would have been like,

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, where I was truly satisfied.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Did you know you were going number one? Did they

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 3>tell you? They told you?

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the Clippers kind of got in trouble because

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>when the draft lottery came out, the guy who was

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at the draft lottery representing the Clippers, you know, the

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>interview whoever gets in the one pick, and he was like, yeah,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>we're taking Blake Griffin. I remember I was sitting in

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the ESPN zone was doing like a doc follow thing.

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, they did this thing called the Rookie or

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there with cameras and it was just kind

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of like WHOA, all right. I had been to La

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>once at that point, I think, right, honestly, it didn't

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>even like the Clippers weren't even like back then, like

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no league pass, no social media, Like I wasn't

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing highlights of the Clippers. They weren't on national TV ever, Right,

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know much about the Clippers by the

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>team that I knew the least.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, I think the Clippers liked it that way.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Nobody that was their whole thing.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're gonna we're gonna sneak up on them

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>when they're not looking.

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Here comes Lob City having to force them into the like.

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, I know you got hurt your

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 3>first year, so you know, your first real season rookie

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 3>of the year, and you guys just start going nuts.

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean Chris Paul, DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, JJ, Chauncey,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Moe Williams, Grant Hill, lamar Odom, Steven Jackson, Ryan Hollins.

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's just a few. You truly brought the

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Clippers out. Well, I mean, does balm Er buy them

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>if it weren't for you, I don't know, maybe you

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>should have some sort of percentage.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Of that of that sale. How much fun was it?

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean to be a part of something, and not

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>just a part of something, but a part of transitioning

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 3>an organization that had again either chosen or was sort

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of obscure or or mired in obscurity to such amazing heights.

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean had to just be incredible.

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a blast, man, it was. It was

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, my rookie year was it was one thing.

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>But then when we got Chris CP, when we got

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul, it was like a whole day front level

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, you know, we were on the road,

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you go play like a team that wasn't doing that

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>well that year. Attendance was down, sold out. I mean

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:13.719
<v Speaker 1>it was like every night we played it felt like

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it was like the you know, a national TV game,

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like a big one, and that was like a blast.

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>You know as a player, like you truly want to

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>play in the best in the best atmosphere, but also

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to you want you want everybody's best shot.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's hard, man, when everybody's gunning for you,

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's obviously much harder. There's no games where

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you just walk in, ho hung, do your thing and

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>get out. You know, when everybody's gunning for you. You

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you got to bring it every night, and it was

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like a level of focus that like I

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>truly believe helped my entire career because I just, you know,

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>so early on, I knew I had to bring it

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>every night, and it was it was a blast. We

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>had a really fun, really good run. I was it

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>came short of like a championship, but it was those

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>years were so fun. Why do you think it did

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Why we came short multiple reasons. We had some we

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>had some mental lapses. We also had some physical breakdowns,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Like there was multiple times where key guys got hurt,

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>myself included. Yeah, and then we had some times where

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like we should have gone on to the next round

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and we you know, we were up three to one

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>against Houston, and I was like, you know, it's hard

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about still. Yeah, I was sorry. I wasn't

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>really asking the heart hitting questions. Man, you know, it's

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna cry, But yeah, I mean there's multiple reasons, you know,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and and to win a championship, like there's a certain

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>amount of luck that you have to have, Like obviously

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>total wings are very very good, but like you know,

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>being healthy, like look at look at the year that

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Toronto want beat Golden State, Kevin Durant gets hurt, Clay

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Thompson gets hurt. Toronto's not sniffing that championship. If those

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.240
<v Speaker 1>two are healthy. I don't mean any disrespect to Toronto.

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>They earned it because they and also guess what, they

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>stayed healthy, so they earned it. But like that's it

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>takes a lot, takes everything coming together at the right time.

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Are you able now to celebrate what you.

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Guys accomplished and how you change the culture and how

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 3>the Clippers are seen and defined or is it still

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>more I wish.

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, but I don't know.

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know about you know, I'm still

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>close with a lot of those guys, and I don't

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know that people are like truly give us any like

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>type of credit for bringing the bringing, you know, because

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>they still had to make decisions, you know, they from there.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>They got guys for CP in the trade, they got

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>guys from ME in the trade, and then now they

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>have the team that they have. I don't know if

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>anybody's actually giving us any type of credit because really

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 1>we didn't ultimately win, so like, you know, it's not

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>really think that doesn't mean I'm not proud of what

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>we did, but I don't know that people are like

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>really giving us. I've never heard any like bump anybody.

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>No one's been like thank you for what you did, So.

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, right, well, that's that's really

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 3>surprising to me, honestly. I mean because even you know,

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't been in LA that long, but I had

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 3>been there long enough to know that we talk about

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 3>the Clippers like there was no there weren't two teams

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>in LA. I don't I don't care what anyone I mean,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:33.280
<v Speaker 3>there just there just wasn't you know, that totally changed.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean to your point exactly what you're talking about.

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you win the Pacific Division title number one

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 3>in the West, and you you changed the culture to

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>like you're at away games and it's sold out, whereas

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 3>before you guys, I don't think there were many home sellouts.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 3>By the way, that's just uh, that's just a reality.

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I that's the rising to me. Well, I ultimately, I

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 3>think you should feel really good about that. I feel

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 3>like you and the rest of the guys, Yeah, I

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 3>mean I think what you said earlier, I mean you

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 3>called it a transition team. I don't really know what

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that means, but you definitely began a style of basketball

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>that Okay, maybe the Warriors took over.

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 2>They also have like the greatest shooter of all time.

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think you can you can now call

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>him that.

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you could, you could call him that like five

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Sorry but just saying now, but now you definitely.

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Now you know what, I'm just now realizing. You got

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to give it to Steph. You're pretty good, pretty good now.

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Before I was like I was on the fence.

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Well, and look, you got to meet me early on.

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about think about that. Think about that.

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I'm not even kidding, Like that's what I was

0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about when I didn't realize what going to play

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.720
<v Speaker 1>in LA was all about, Like it just never crossed

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>my mind. But like the amount of like people that

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I got to meet and like, you know, we're at games,

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like fans of and it was

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>really cool because it just wasn't like a thing that

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I really thought about until it was happening. Yeah, I'd

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:26.520
<v Speaker 1>consider myself so lucky, so lucky to have been able

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to do the things I've done. And you know what,

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>shooting that spot with you.

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I.

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Told you it's a massive fan of the office.

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So it was like, but.

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't know.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know you. My recollection is this, you played

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>it very cool. One two, I was in this awkward

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>phase where.

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, that was the second year that I had

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>shot this and and I was meeting a bunch of

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 3>people and I didn't even start at the beginning, but

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 3>I was because I'm not a I'm a I mean

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 3>a huge sports fan. I was a big fan of

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:10.640
<v Speaker 3>yours from watching even in Oklahoma. And someone was like,

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, you should like get some merch or something,

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 3>and maybe you were the first one I don't.

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't like. So this was like year two. I

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 2>finally was like, well, yeah.

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I would never go up to someone and ask

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 3>them to sign something if I didn't like, but now

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like working with them, and so I don't know

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 3>if you remember this, I still haven't. I'm gonna I'm

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna send and post a picture of this as well.

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 3>It's down in my office.

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, I should I should have

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 2>him signed something. I stole a ball from that gym.

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>That we was red and blue.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't red and blue, but it had like I

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 3>think it was like property of something. But it was

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 3>definitely a used high school basketball that I was like,

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess I'll just take this. And I

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 3>had you sign a basketball and you signed it, and

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 3>I still I still have it.

0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious.

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 3>And now that you're retired, I'm hoping it's gonna be

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 3>worth a lot more because now I have this signed stuff.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably not, It's gotta be honest, man, I should have

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.479
<v Speaker 1>got I should I should have got off it. Really,

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 3>You congratulations on the retirement. I mean, that's a long

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 3>career to have played thirteen years in the association, to

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 3>have had such great success. Why did you stop where

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 3>you just you were done with the grind of it?

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I I mean I loved every minute of

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>basketball the last couple of years. You know, as you

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>get older, dude, I've had nine surgeries in my.

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Career, and that's crazy, you know.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>And like really like fought hard to get back from

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>each one and felt like I did for a long time.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But then you just start slowing down. And I was

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>at the point where, like you know, dude, you got

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>to take You're taking my anti inflammatories. You're like, you know,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you to tie it. There's just like all the things

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that go along with basketball, and when you're not playing

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 1>as much, you have to work, Like in practice days,

0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you work twice as hard because if you're playing a

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of minutes, like you can't go in and work

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>hard on an off day. But if you're not playing

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.720
<v Speaker 1>that much, you have to stay in like elite shape.

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And so it just like was aware on my body,

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, nine months out of the year, ten months,

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>depending on how far you go in the playoffs, you know,

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>where I was just like, I don't think I can

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>give as much as I really need to, more so

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>mentally than physically. And it was just it was time.

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And I have a ten year old son and a

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>seven year old daughter that I think it was just

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 1>time for me to to to move on. And I

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>feel super at peace with it. You know, when you retire,

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I hope you're doing okay, and I'm like, no,

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy, so happy. You know, that's one of

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:23.240
<v Speaker 1>those things.

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you did you watch basketball this year?

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I watched the least amount of basketball I ever had,

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but I kept up with it. I would watch here

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and there. I would I would check out scores. I

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>would see how you know, buddies were doing. There was

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>some there was like clips and games I watched like

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>if an old coach like ever was like, hey, let

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 1>me pick your brain about this, Yeah, send me clips.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>So I'd send clips and I you know, would get

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. I'd give them whatever advice I could

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 1>possibly give. But you know, and just checking in on guys.

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, you see guys going through a slump and

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you reach out and stuff like that. But I didn't

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>watch as much basketball as I you know, normally during

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>the season, dude on, Like I was just at home.

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I would watch East Coast games, the West Coast game.

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>I'd watch games all night. It's definitely different this year.

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there a team are you a fan of? Blank?

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there a team that you root for?

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the guys in Boston. I love those

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>guys and I hope they win this year and I

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 1>think they have a great shot. Denver is going to

0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>be really good again. And then other than that, I watch,

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, guys like teammates from before. Who are the teams?

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>But there's plenty of guys who I like, love I

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.439
<v Speaker 1>mean love Washing, but I loved watching women Yama play

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. I'm so excited to see I'm so excited

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to get one to not ever have to play against

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>him too, just like to see his career. I hope

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>he stays healthy because he just seems like he's just

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>so mentally past everyone his age, and then physically he's

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>passed everyone, you know what I mean? In four years,

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Washington play, Washington play against Yiannis, like the guys who

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely bully people you know, are just longer than

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like Washington play against those guys and just like be

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>able to like get up and block a shot or finish.

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a I think he's going to be. I mean,

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying anything. Anybody knows, you know, it's not

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a secret. But I'm so excited to watch him. Other

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>than that, just teammates who I've played with before.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you may be retired from basketball, but you are

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:29.879
<v Speaker 3>not retired.

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to be a comedian?

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Not? No, I don't want to be like a stand

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>up comedian. I've done it from time to time. I

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>love comedy so much. I love doing little acting things

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>here and there. It's just like it was always fun

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>for me to do in the off season. But I

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>like started production company years ago with my buddy Ryan Khalil,

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we had an Apple TV show come

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>out Coolhella Tomorrow, We did a remake to White McCann Jump.

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:00.919
<v Speaker 1>We got a bunch of other stuff and in the pipeline.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what I really love, Like the creative process when

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it comes to comedy. I love it, like thinking of

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the idea, like pitching, you know, the whole thing, from

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>beginning to end. I truly love it. So there's some

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>projects that I'm working on now that I'm really excited

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>about that I will maybe get to do personally now

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that I'm done, and it'll be in the comedy realm.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>But now I don't really consider myself a comedian per se.

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know you mentioned a couple White Man Can't

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Jump remake, a Hulu Hello Tomorrow at Apple TV, plus

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>working mostly as a producer.

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy that?

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I loved it.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 2>You loved this?

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the creative process. It's crazy because like the first

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 1>conversation I ever had about doing a White Men Can't

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Jump reimagine it was twenty seventeen, I met with Kenya

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Bears and I was like, that's one of my favorite films.

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see how it looks in this world today.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I know people get upset or remakes, but it's like, right,

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of fun because that movie came out before

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the Dream Team had even right one like Basketball, it

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>is so different, fashion so different, but they're two very

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>very relative things today. And then on top of that,

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the conversations of race and what it means to be black,

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 1>when it means to be white, and how those two coincide.

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>We're still having those exact same conversations, right, you know.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>So that was like why I wanted to do that,

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's twenty seventeen to like when we

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:31.320
<v Speaker 1>started shooting May of twenty twenty two, I remember I

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>looked at it. I looked at our head of development,

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 1>a person in government. I was like, I can't believe

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>we're actually here right now, Like multiple scripts and multiple

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>regime changes, Disney acquiring Fox is just insane. So I

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>do love the process.

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>It's it is insane. Well that's good one.

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 3>That's another way that we are similar and this and

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 3>this time I'm not joking the business of television, the

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 3>business of entertainment is fascinating to me. I love it

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 3>as well. You can either get frustrated or you can

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.680
<v Speaker 3>embrace it and you know, ride the wave. But it

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 3>got made. That's good too. You think of it this way.

0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Your development director got paid for five years instead of one.

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a bonus for them, whoever they are.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So there's all.

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>There's always a reason to keep push. Yeah, let's do

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 2>this in the next cycle.

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 3>But you've also done performing working with fun of your Die,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 3>comedy by Blake, you were on broad City and stuff

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:38.240
<v Speaker 3>with Whitney Cummings. Let me tell you this, you really

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 3>make me laugh. So I'm not the arbiter of all

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 3>things funny, even though everyone else says that I am.

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 3>I will tell you I'm not. But I you have,

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>honestly a very fresh, unique perspective and take, and I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you continue to work and at some point point

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<v Speaker 3>give me a job because ultimately that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I care about is my own ability to further

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<v Speaker 3>my career.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I said that weird career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's okay, it's fine. The whole thing that you

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<v Speaker 1>said was was weird too, So like, don't don't let

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<v Speaker 1>the just the word career slow you down, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it wasn't weird. I guess it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>immensely selfish, which obviously we've got to know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's just you. So don't even worry about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, man, Right, I said career weird?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, honestly, didn't hear it?

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<v Speaker 2>It is?

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<v Speaker 1>It may it made in those those headphones you got

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<v Speaker 1>are the beautiful studio microphone instead of an iPhone.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what's unique about your setup here today

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.080
<v Speaker 3>is that you still have the plug in as opposed

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<v Speaker 3>to the AirPods.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hold on, can I I'm just I was told

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<v Speaker 1>to wait in headphones. I can pull up the email.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'll blast it out. I'll blast it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Screenshot on the Instagram. It wasn't written by pain to

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<v Speaker 1>plug in headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's right. And you did well, you did very

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<v Speaker 2>very well in.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing where I try to not use Bluetooth as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ordered these for my iPhone And.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to know the truth, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't use them ever, No, it's my don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I think it's smart. I don't use microwaves either.

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Microwave, don't use the microwaves at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've probably used a microwave in the last

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<v Speaker 1>like ten years. I've probably used a microwave like once

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<v Speaker 1>a year maybe on average, like when there's no other option.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that might be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>an exaggeration, but I'm actually with you. Here's here's the

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<v Speaker 3>weird thing. Okay, let's actually if we can have some

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<v Speaker 3>doctors right in. This is a serious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I moved into a new house and it has a

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<v Speaker 3>built in microwave. Okay, now the microwave. There's an island.

0:50:03.800 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I have an island in my house, and the microwave

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 3>is built into the island, which means that the microwave

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:17.239
<v Speaker 3>is right at the same level and adjacent to.

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<v Speaker 2>My pelvic region.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this when I have used it, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>use mine very much either, But when I do, I

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<v Speaker 3>hit the button and kind of step back real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't feel safe. Am I wrong about that? Is

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<v Speaker 4>this from our childhood? Is this bad? I mean, is

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 4>this is this bad intel? Or it just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 4>like it's safe, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, you know, I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>do is get one of those X ray things you

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<v Speaker 1>just tied around your waist, and then the kitchen. Yeah,

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 1>there's that joke about you know, the x ray technician

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is like yeah, safe, no words, and they run off

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 1>and hide behind what could be considered like a bomb, like.

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<v Speaker 2>A drape themselves. No, it's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way microwaves can be healthy. It's like we're

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<v Speaker 1>zapping our food with micro waves. Obviously, not to get

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 1>too scientific on you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan, I never really thought about it, but no, that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense, right, And then we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Eating that food like obviously, but not only like what

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you're saying where you step back, but like smart by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but like then we're also just just eating

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>that food like there's there's it can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Be right, right, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you.

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we started a little maybe we start a separate podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>No microwave thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the microwave industry a powerful industry that I don't

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:51.560
<v Speaker 3>want to anger.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, or they I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like everybody that makes microwaves also makes like ovens,

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 1>or they make like toaster ovens.

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.320
<v Speaker 3>And the ovens are probably more expensive. Yeah, they probably

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>would rather sell ovens, so in a way we would

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 3>be helping them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe we get we get big Microwave to back us,

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:13.520
<v Speaker 1>put in a little money.

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Big big microwave, big wave, big wave companies. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't it doesn't seem safe, but yeah, I I

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<v Speaker 3>don't to your point, I don't know what kind of

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 3>energy it is. But shoving energy that is transmitting to

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<v Speaker 3>another device inside my head, just intellectually, it just doesn't.

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:38.799
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't seem like it's a great thing to do,

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 3>does not, does it?

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree, we're onto something, we're on or we're on

0:52:45.040 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 2>something one one or the other. Just to you listen, uh,

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:53.320
<v Speaker 2>good luck again.

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 3>You have my number now, so when you you have

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:59.359
<v Speaker 3>something interesting project wise, you give me a call. All right,

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 3>it's got to be interesting though, Okay. Well, other than that,

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 3>we will we will play some really slow golf and

0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:07.800
<v Speaker 3>now I'll be playing with a champion.

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're welcome and that, and you know I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work on this slow thing. No one told me, but

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 1>so thanks for telling me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like everyone told you. I feel

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.319
<v Speaker 3>like it became Oh really, yeah, I feel like it was.

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 3>It was sort of commonly said I had to put

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:25.919
<v Speaker 3>Blake on a on a shot clock.

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, you were doing a shot clock thing.

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, counting down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, maybe you should play a little

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 1>slower next year and you'll win. Sorry, man, I was

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>just lashing out. It felt like you came at me.

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, no, it's I mean, it's it is

0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>a fair point. Uh.

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:48.080
<v Speaker 3>Are you a fan of the play in? Yes, it

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 3>generates interest, it keeps more people involved exactly, and it

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 3>does it does kind of suck. Like who wasn't New

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Orleans was? I think they were the sixth seed and

0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 3>then like they maybe two games and they went and

0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 3>had to play the plan and luckily they still got in.

0:54:04.760 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 3>But it does suck for most teams that like, if

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 3>it's jumbled at five to six and you have a

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 3>couple of back games or you have just like a

0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:13.439
<v Speaker 3>two minor injuries, the guys need to take a couple

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.760
<v Speaker 3>of games off, like your season could be over instead

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 3>of you know, getting a favorable matchup in the playoffs.

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 3>That sucks, but it does generate a lot of interest

0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 3>and also the end season tournament kind of the same way,

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 3>like more people were watching those games than usually watch

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>games during that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>During that time, Yeah, yeah, Minnesota for real? Do they

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<v Speaker 3>have a shot that winning?

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, I think they're for real. But I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say Denver's like the favorite in my favorite

0:54:45.000 --> 0:54:47.759
<v Speaker 1>in the West in Boston's Like, I don't see them

0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 1>beating Denver or Boston, but could happened, for sure. I mean,

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Rudy's playing unbelievable defense, Anthony Edwards is an absolute stud

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and then their pieces around are so solid that yeah,

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean for sure, could happen again. You never know,

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>they get matched up with Denver and somebody goes down.

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully doesn't happen, but they could get there, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I do want to point out that you

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<v Speaker 3>picked the two consensus favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I mean, well, guess what, I also picked

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Yukon before they won. So what's that mean, Scot. There's

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a reason their favorite the best team also, but also

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Denver's other than two seed Oklahoma City. Yeah, I didn't

0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>pick Oklahoma City there the one seed.

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Are you an Oklahoma City fan because you're from Oklahoma? Yeah?

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know what's crazy is like they the first

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 1>year that Oklahoma City got a team was my last

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>year in college, so I like I didn't grow up

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 1>with them, so it's kind of weird where like I

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.839
<v Speaker 1>basically got into the league as they were starting out,

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.960
<v Speaker 1>so it was like I obviously would have been if

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>they were there prior, but I just was never like

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a fan fan. But yeah, I want to him do well.

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Still still love Ulchoma City.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 3>NBA playoff basketball is very exciting. My TV is on

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 3>every night. I wish you all the best. Good luck, Yeah,

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 3>good luck with everything.

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Media. Appreciate it.

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and let's get the golf game tuned up and

0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:19.600
<v Speaker 3>then we'll play again.

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Man, appreciate it. Thanks for having.

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Me, Thanks buddy, Blake. Great to have you on my friend.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for joining us. I'm gonna see

0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 3>you soon, I hope. And thanks for all your insight

0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 3>into the NBA playoffs. I will be watching mostly to

0:56:47.600 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 3>see if the Celtics and Nuggets do play in the finals.

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening. Listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back next week right here, same place, same channel

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<v Speaker 3>for another listening adventure. It's gonna be fun, really will be.

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Blake won't be here, so it'll be great. Until then,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody have a fantastic week. Off the Beat is hosted

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