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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, my name is Blake Griffin and I have

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Speaker 1: been Brian's idle for upwards of thirteen years now. So enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, one and all.

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Speaker 3: This is Off the Beat and I am, as always

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Speaker 3: your Off the Beat host Brian Bomgartner my guest today, Well,

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Speaker 3: he could absolutely dunk on you because he is one

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Speaker 3: of the best dunkers in NBA history. As you just heard,

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Speaker 3: I have the Blake Griffin on the show with me today.

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Speaker 3: He is a former member of Lob City, the Los

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Speaker 3: could have his pick playing either football, baseball, basketball. He's

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Speaker 3: just an all around athlete who luckily chose to grace

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Speaker 3: extraordinary and extremely funny guy and a pretty medium golfer,

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Speaker 3: if I do say so myself. So I guess when

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Speaker 3: I said great athlete, he's a mid athlete at golf.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. He's got plenty of strings. I have had

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Speaker 3: the good fortune of getting to know Blake over the

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Speaker 3: back in twenty eleven. So I'm glad that you're going

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Speaker 1: And squeak.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Bubble and Squeakna, bubble and squeak. I cook at every mon.

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Speaker 1: Lift over from the ninety boat.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Look at you in a little professional booth over there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I am nothing if not professional.

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Speaker 1: That is true. That's what they say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is what they say. Thanks for dressing

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Speaker 3: We had this conversation this week twenty eleven. Yeah, twenty eleven,

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Speaker 3: Blake and I shot something for a series of specials

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Speaker 2: I will share it on social media. I just sent

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Speaker 1: Can I just take a look again? Just to yeah

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Speaker 1: Okay, the ball, you just got the ball way too

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Speaker 2: I think that's the I think that's this perspective of

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you considered calling them, just throw out

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe no, I'm finish, You're done, I'm done, done, done.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we're gonna we're gonna talk about that.

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Speaker 3: I was just with Blake this last weekend in Las

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Speaker 3: How is it playing with me?

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Speaker 3: I had a great time playing with you. Let me

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Speaker 3: Who's the slowest call for that?

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe so much. You're just gonna You're just gonna run.

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Speaker 2: Then you know, did you get did you get the call?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: Now because I still played. I played football my freshman year, okay,

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Speaker 1: the crowd and I remember like the chills like going

440
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: through my body, and I remember being like, oh, yeah,

441
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: this is it, this is like this is what I like.

442
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: And I ended up like came back down, my brother

443
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: made a move, They came in, doubled, let me passed

444
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: off to me. Later it in. I think I got

445
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: another lay up come out. I ended up going back

446
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: in the second half and we ended up winning. From

447
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: then on, I was just like, that's this is what

448
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm this is what I'm supposed to do.

449
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

450
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: I love that there's specific moment that you remember, and there's.

451
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: Like other moments too, Like that was like the earliest one.

452
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: Where I was like, oh no, no, I think I can

453
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: maybe do this. And I wasn't even thinking NBA. I

454
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: was just playing like I want to be. I wanted

455
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: to always be like my brother, and he was like

456
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: the person I was always chasing, and he was like

457
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: he was already committed to go to Oklahoma at that time,

458
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: and you know, that's what I want to do. I

459
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: want to go play college basketball. And then there's moments

460
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: where you realize, Okay, maybe I can go play in

461
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: the NBA and so on.

462
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: You guys won, as I said, four straight state championships,

463
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 3: and I hear Oklahoma Christian just this last month won

464
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: a state title again. There's a kid by the name

465
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: of Luke Gray who plays there, who just passed you, Blake.

466
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm told breaking news here from the studio that he

467
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: just passed you as the all time leader leading scorer

468
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: in school history. I mean, how does that make you feel?

469
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean, are you proud of the kid or are

470
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: you look at that don't be nice?

471
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, holding out high school scoring

472
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: record for an individual, it is awesome. It's awesome. I'm

473
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: super happy for him, But that's not something I would

474
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: be like we should still had.

475
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: That one, you know what I mean.

476
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: It's so happy for him. That's a huge when you're

477
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: in high school and you're doing.

478
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: That, of course.

479
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll go on to you know, play more

480
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: basketball and hopefully have a really long career, and it's awesome.

481
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm super happy for him. It's definitely not one of

482
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: those things where I'm like, I wish that had happened.

483
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: I still hang on to that one. That's that's that's

484
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: that's great for him. He's a great player.

485
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: You get recruited by Duke Kansas North Carolina. I read

486
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: you decide to go follow your brother to Oklahoma?

487
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: Now? Is that because your brother was there?

488
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: That was a huge reason I initially wasn't going to

489
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: go there. My brother was recruited by Kelvin Samson, went

490
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: and played for Kelvin Sampson for his freshman year and

491
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: he got into some NCAA violations. They hired a young

492
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: coach at the time named Jeff Caple played at Duke.

493
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: He was like one of the youngest I think he's

494
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: one of the youngest Division one head coaches at the time. Yeah,

495
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: came from VCU and my brother came home one day

496
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: and he was like, I like really love like how

497
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: we're doing workouts, Like it's more like skill work. It's

498
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: less like, you know, just same old you're you're a

499
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: big man, do this, you know. He was everybody was

500
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: working on their shot or but he was working on

501
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: their ball handling. It was he was like, I really think, like,

502
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: if you want to, like this could be a great

503
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: place for you. And I developed a relationship with with

504
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: coach Kpele and still to this day, I have a

505
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: great relationship with him. And he was just like one

506
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: of those people that I felt like believed, like really

507
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: believed in me. He had asked me he had actually

508
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: the other day I announced I was retired, and he

509
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: had a really cool post and meant a lot to me.

510
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: One of our first conversations, he was like, what are

511
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: your goals? And I was like, I want to play

512
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: college basketball when I you know, win a championship and

513
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens after that. And he

514
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: came and saw me play for the first time because

515
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: at the time he just got the job and you

516
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: reach out to recruits in state right away, can't watch

517
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: me play for the first time. And I remember the

518
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: next day after that tournament, he called, he texted me.

519
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can jump on the phone. I

520
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: was like yeah, sure. So we calls and he's like, hey, man,

521
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: I think you've got to change your goals. And I

522
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well it's pretty cool, but like

523
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: it's nothing. Confidence was ever like a huge issue for me.

524
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: Like I knew who I was as a basketball player,

525
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't one of those guys. It was like, no,

526
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to the NBA, I'm going to do this,

527
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: this and this. It was just like I'd seen so

528
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: many guys not make it, so many talented guys not

529
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: even make it to college. Right. My dad being a

530
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: high school basketball coach for years and years, I always

531
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: looked up to his high school players and there were

532
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: so many guys and I was like, man, he's so good.

533
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Didn't make it in college, or did make it to college,

534
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: didn't play left da whatever. So it was just never

535
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: a thing with me where I was like, oh, I'm

536
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: for sure I'm gonna make a career out of this.

537
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: You know. It was just like you play right, and

538
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens. And my college coach, among you know,

539
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: amongst my parents and my brother, two of the biggest

540
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, or some of the biggest basketball influences on

541
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: my life.

542
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, were you planning to be one and done?

543
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: No? No, no, not at all. I didn't even think

544
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: that was like, I mean, I guess there's there's a possibility,

545
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: but I had a chance to be I was, you know,

546
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, I sort of had

547
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: a decision to make and I had to announce that

548
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: I was coming back to college. People thought I was

549
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: going to leave. It was like I was probably like

550
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: a lottery but you know, not top five, I don't think,

551
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: probably maybe like more like eight to fourteen to sixteen.

552
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: And I just felt like I wasn't ready to be honest,

553
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my development in college. I really wanted

554
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: to come back and play with my brother his senior year.

555
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to try to you know, I set a

556
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: list to all these goals and I wanted to come back,

557
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: and I decided to, and I'm so glad I did,

558
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: because I don't think I would have been as ready.

559
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you had some injuries that held you back.

560
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Your MCL and your left knee.

561
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: You're hurt against Kansas and then your right knee against

562
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: A and M you decide to come back. I mean, truly,

563
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: your sophomore season, your second and final, as it turns out,

564
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: season at the University of Oklahoma, one of the best

565
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: college seasons by any player ever. I appreciate that, right,

566
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean no, you lead the NCAA and rebounding, lead

567
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve in scoring Big Twelve records on rebounds,

568
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: thirty double doubles in college.

569
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: I read that, I'm like, is that right? That can't

570
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: be right?

571
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: You end up being, of course the number one pick

572
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: after that, Were you satisfied with what you accomplished in college?

573
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: Satisfied? Now? I mean the biggest goal obviously is they

574
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: win a championship, and that think truly, it was like

575
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: it was the one I made a goal list with

576
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: one of our assistant coaches, and I had it on

577
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: a poster board and I put it up in my

578
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: apartment and checked off every single one but Big Twelve

579
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: chanceampion and national champion. That those are like the ones

580
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: that like being Truly the sounds corny, but being a

581
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: part of something that's like bigger than you is so rewarding.

582
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can obviously speak on that

583
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: having just won a golf tournament.

584
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, you and Chandler parties, Yeah,

585
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: being part of that.

586
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Team, yeah jesus. So you know it truly is though,

587
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: like like winning a championship would have been awesome. That

588
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: would have been like I would have looked back and

589
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: been like, I am, there's nothing left to do in college,

590
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, And I eventually did leave, but it was

591
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: time for me to leave, but that would have been like,

592
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, where I was truly satisfied.

593
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: Did you know you were going number one? Did they

594
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: tell you? They told you?

595
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: So?

596
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers kind of got in trouble because

597
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: when the draft lottery came out, the guy who was

598
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: at the draft lottery representing the Clippers, you know, the

599
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: interview whoever gets in the one pick, and he was like, yeah,

600
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: we're taking Blake Griffin. I remember I was sitting in

601
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: the ESPN zone was doing like a doc follow thing.

602
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, they did this thing called the Rookie or

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: something like that. I can't remember what it's called, but

604
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with cameras and it was just kind

605
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: of like WHOA, all right. I had been to La

606
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: once at that point, I think, right, honestly, it didn't

607
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: even like the Clippers weren't even like back then, like

608
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: there's no league pass, no social media, Like I wasn't

609
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: seeing highlights of the Clippers. They weren't on national TV ever, Right,

610
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I didn't really know much about the Clippers by the

611
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: team that I knew the least.

612
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: Right, I think the Clippers liked it that way.

613
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Nobody that was their whole thing.

614
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna we're gonna sneak up on them

615
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: when they're not looking.

616
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: Here comes Lob City having to force them into the like.

617
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know you got hurt your

618
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: first year, so you know, your first real season rookie

619
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: of the year, and you guys just start going nuts.

620
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: I mean Chris Paul, DeAndre Jordan, Jamal Crawford, JJ, Chauncey,

621
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: Moe Williams, Grant Hill, lamar Odom, Steven Jackson, Ryan Hollins.

622
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 3: I mean that's just a few. You truly brought the

623
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: Clippers out. Well, I mean, does balm Er buy them

624
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: if it weren't for you, I don't know, maybe you

625
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: should have some sort of percentage.

626
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: Of that of that sale. How much fun was it?

627
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: I mean to be a part of something, and not

628
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: just a part of something, but a part of transitioning

629
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: an organization that had again either chosen or was sort

630
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: of obscure or or mired in obscurity to such amazing heights.

631
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean had to just be incredible.

632
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a blast, man, it was. It was

633
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, my rookie year was it was one thing.

634
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: But then when we got Chris CP, when we got

635
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Chris Paul, it was like a whole day front level

636
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, we were on the road,

637
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: you go play like a team that wasn't doing that

638
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: well that year. Attendance was down, sold out. I mean

639
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: it was like every night we played it felt like

640
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: it was like the you know, a national TV game,

641
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: like a big one, and that was like a blast.

642
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: You know as a player, like you truly want to

643
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: play in the best in the best atmosphere, but also

644
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: you want to you want you want everybody's best shot.

645
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's hard, man, when everybody's gunning for you,

646
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Like it's it's obviously much harder. There's no games where

647
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: you just walk in, ho hung, do your thing and

648
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: get out. You know, when everybody's gunning for you. You

649
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: you got to bring it every night, and it was

650
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: it was like a level of focus that like I

651
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: truly believe helped my entire career because I just, you know,

652
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: so early on, I knew I had to bring it

653
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: every night, and it was it was a blast. We

654
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: had a really fun, really good run. I was it

655
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: came short of like a championship, but it was those

656
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: years were so fun. Why do you think it did

657
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Why we came short multiple reasons. We had some we

658
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: had some mental lapses. We also had some physical breakdowns,

659
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: Like there was multiple times where key guys got hurt,

660
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: myself included. Yeah, and then we had some times where

661
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: like we should have gone on to the next round

662
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: and we you know, we were up three to one

663
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: against Houston, and I was like, you know, it's hard

664
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: to talk about still. Yeah, I was sorry. I wasn't

665
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: really asking the heart hitting questions. Man, you know, it's

666
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna cry, But yeah, I mean there's multiple reasons, you know,

667
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: and and to win a championship, like there's a certain

668
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: amount of luck that you have to have, Like obviously

669
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: total wings are very very good, but like you know,

670
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: being healthy, like look at look at the year that

671
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Toronto want beat Golden State, Kevin Durant gets hurt, Clay

672
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: Thompson gets hurt. Toronto's not sniffing that championship. If those

673
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: two are healthy. I don't mean any disrespect to Toronto.

674
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: They earned it because they and also guess what, they

675
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: stayed healthy, so they earned it. But like that's it

676
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: takes a lot, takes everything coming together at the right time.

677
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: Are you able now to celebrate what you.

678
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: Guys accomplished and how you change the culture and how

679
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: the Clippers are seen and defined or is it still

680
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: more I wish.

681
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but I don't know.

682
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you know, I'm still

683
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: close with a lot of those guys, and I don't

684
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: know that people are like truly give us any like

685
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: type of credit for bringing the bringing, you know, because

686
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: they still had to make decisions, you know, they from there.

687
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: They got guys for CP in the trade, they got

688
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: guys from ME in the trade, and then now they

689
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: have the team that they have. I don't know if

690
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: anybody's actually giving us any type of credit because really

691
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: we didn't ultimately win, so like, you know, it's not

692
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: really think that doesn't mean I'm not proud of what

693
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: we did, but I don't know that people are like

694
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: really giving us. I've never heard any like bump anybody.

695
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: No one's been like thank you for what you did, So.

696
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, right, well, that's that's really

697
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: surprising to me, honestly. I mean because even you know,

698
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: I hadn't been in LA that long, but I had

699
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: been there long enough to know that we talk about

700
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: the Clippers like there was no there weren't two teams

701
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: in LA. I don't I don't care what anyone I mean,

702
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: there just there just wasn't you know, that totally changed.

703
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean to your point exactly what you're talking about.

704
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: I mean, you win the Pacific Division title number one

705
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: in the West, and you you changed the culture to

706
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: like you're at away games and it's sold out, whereas

707
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: before you guys, I don't think there were many home sellouts.

708
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: By the way, that's just uh, that's just a reality.

709
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: I that's the rising to me. Well, I ultimately, I

710
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: think you should feel really good about that. I feel

711
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: like you and the rest of the guys, Yeah, I

712
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: mean I think what you said earlier, I mean you

713
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: called it a transition team. I don't really know what

714
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: that means, but you definitely began a style of basketball

715
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: that Okay, maybe the Warriors took over.

716
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: They also have like the greatest shooter of all time.

717
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: I mean I think you can you can now call

718
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: him that.

719
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you could, you could call him that like five

720
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: years ago.

721
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Sorry but just saying now, but now you definitely.

722
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: Now you know what, I'm just now realizing. You got

723
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to give it to Steph. You're pretty good, pretty good now.

724
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: Before I was like I was on the fence.

725
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 3: Well, and look, you got to meet me early on.

726
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: I mean, think about think about that. Think about that.

727
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm not even kidding, Like that's what I was

728
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: talking about when I didn't realize what going to play

729
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 1: in LA was all about, Like it just never crossed

730
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: my mind. But like the amount of like people that

731
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: I got to meet and like, you know, we're at games,

732
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, I was like fans of and it was

733
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: really cool because it just wasn't like a thing that

734
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: I really thought about until it was happening. Yeah, I'd

735
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: consider myself so lucky, so lucky to have been able

736
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: to do the things I've done. And you know what,

737
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: shooting that spot with you.

738
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I.

739
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: Told you it's a massive fan of the office.

740
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: So it was like, but.

741
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, yeah, I don't know.

742
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't know you. My recollection is this, you played

743
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: it very cool. One two, I was in this awkward

744
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: phase where.

745
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: You know, that was the second year that I had

746
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: shot this and and I was meeting a bunch of

747
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: people and I didn't even start at the beginning, but

748
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 3: I was because I'm not a I'm a I mean

749
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 3: a huge sports fan. I was a big fan of

750
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: yours from watching even in Oklahoma. And someone was like,

751
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: you know, you should like get some merch or something,

752
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 3: and maybe you were the first one I don't.

753
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't like. So this was like year two. I

754
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: finally was like, well, yeah.

755
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: Like I would never go up to someone and ask

756
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: them to sign something if I didn't like, but now

757
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm like working with them, and so I don't know

758
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: if you remember this, I still haven't. I'm gonna I'm

759
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: gonna send and post a picture of this as well.

760
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: It's down in my office.

761
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, I should I should have

762
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: him signed something. I stole a ball from that gym.

763
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: That we was red and blue.

764
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: It was.

765
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't red and blue, but it had like I

766
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: think it was like property of something. But it was

767
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: definitely a used high school basketball that I was like,

768
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I'll just take this. And I

769
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: had you sign a basketball and you signed it, and

770
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: I still I still have it.

771
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

772
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: And now that you're retired, I'm hoping it's gonna be

773
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: worth a lot more because now I have this signed stuff.

774
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Probably not, It's gotta be honest, man, I should have

775
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 1: got I should I should have got off it. Really,

776
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't know.

777
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: You congratulations on the retirement. I mean, that's a long

778
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: career to have played thirteen years in the association, to

779
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: have had such great success. Why did you stop where

780
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: you just you were done with the grind of it?

781
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I I mean I loved every minute of

782
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: basketball the last couple of years. You know, as you

783
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: get older, dude, I've had nine surgeries in my.

784
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: Career, and that's crazy, you know.

785
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: And like really like fought hard to get back from

786
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: each one and felt like I did for a long time.

787
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: But then you just start slowing down. And I was

788
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: at the point where, like you know, dude, you got

789
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: to take You're taking my anti inflammatories. You're like, you know,

790
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: you to tie it. There's just like all the things

791
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: that go along with basketball, and when you're not playing

792
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: as much, you have to work, Like in practice days,

793
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: you work twice as hard because if you're playing a

794
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: lot of minutes, like you can't go in and work

795
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: hard on an off day. But if you're not playing

796
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: that much, you have to stay in like elite shape.

797
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: And so it just like was aware on my body,

798
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, nine months out of the year, ten months,

799
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: depending on how far you go in the playoffs, you know,

800
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: where I was just like, I don't think I can

801
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: give as much as I really need to, more so

802
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: mentally than physically. And it was just it was time.

803
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: And I have a ten year old son and a

804
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: seven year old daughter that I think it was just

805
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: time for me to to to move on. And I

806
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: feel super at peace with it. You know, when you retire,

807
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I hope you're doing okay, and I'm like, no,

808
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy, so happy. You know, that's one of

809
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: those things.

810
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: Did you did you watch basketball this year?

811
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: I watched the least amount of basketball I ever had,

812
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: but I kept up with it. I would watch here

813
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: and there. I would I would check out scores. I

814
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: would see how you know, buddies were doing. There was

815
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: some there was like clips and games I watched like

816
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: if an old coach like ever was like, hey, let

817
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: me pick your brain about this, Yeah, send me clips.

818
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: So I'd send clips and I you know, would get

819
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'd give them whatever advice I could

820
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: possibly give. But you know, and just checking in on guys.

821
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: You know, you see guys going through a slump and

822
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: you reach out and stuff like that. But I didn't

823
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: watch as much basketball as I you know, normally during

824
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: the season, dude on, Like I was just at home.

825
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: I would watch East Coast games, the West Coast game.

826
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: I'd watch games all night. It's definitely different this year.

827
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Is there a team are you a fan of? Blank?

828
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: Is there a team that you root for?

829
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: Uh?

830
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the guys in Boston. I love those

831
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: guys and I hope they win this year and I

832
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: think they have a great shot. Denver is going to

833
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: be really good again. And then other than that, I watch,

834
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, guys like teammates from before. Who are the teams?

835
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of guys who I like, love I

836
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: mean love Washing, but I loved watching women Yama play

837
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: this year. I'm so excited to see I'm so excited

838
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: to get one to not ever have to play against

839
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: him too, just like to see his career. I hope

840
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: he stays healthy because he just seems like he's just

841
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: so mentally past everyone his age, and then physically he's

842
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: passed everyone, you know what I mean? In four years,

843
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: Washington play, Washington play against Yiannis, like the guys who

844
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: just absolutely bully people you know, are just longer than

845
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: like Washington play against those guys and just like be

846
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: able to like get up and block a shot or finish.

847
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a I think he's going to be. I mean,

848
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. Anybody knows, you know, it's not

849
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: a secret. But I'm so excited to watch him. Other

850
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: than that, just teammates who I've played with before.

851
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you may be retired from basketball, but you are

852
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: not retired.

853
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a comedian?

854
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: Not? No, I don't want to be like a stand

855
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: up comedian. I've done it from time to time. I

856
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: love comedy so much. I love doing little acting things

857
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: here and there. It's just like it was always fun

858
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: for me to do in the off season. But I

859
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: like started production company years ago with my buddy Ryan Khalil,

860
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: and you know, we had an Apple TV show come

861
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: out Coolhella Tomorrow, We did a remake to White McCann Jump.

862
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of other stuff and in the pipeline.

863
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: That's what I really love, Like the creative process when

864
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: it comes to comedy. I love it, like thinking of

865
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: the idea, like pitching, you know, the whole thing, from

866
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: beginning to end. I truly love it. So there's some

867
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: projects that I'm working on now that I'm really excited

868
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: about that I will maybe get to do personally now

869
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: that I'm done, and it'll be in the comedy realm.

870
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: But now I don't really consider myself a comedian per se.

871
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you mentioned a couple White Man Can't

872
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: Jump remake, a Hulu Hello Tomorrow at Apple TV, plus

873
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: working mostly as a producer.

874
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy that?

875
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah? I loved it.

876
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: You loved this?

877
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, the creative process. It's crazy because like the first

878
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: conversation I ever had about doing a White Men Can't

879
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: Jump reimagine it was twenty seventeen, I met with Kenya

880
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Bears and I was like, that's one of my favorite films.

881
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: I'd love to see how it looks in this world today.

882
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: I know people get upset or remakes, but it's like, right,

883
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun because that movie came out before

884
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: the Dream Team had even right one like Basketball, it

885
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: is so different, fashion so different, but they're two very

886
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: very relative things today. And then on top of that,

887
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: the conversations of race and what it means to be black,

888
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: when it means to be white, and how those two coincide.

889
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: We're still having those exact same conversations, right, you know.

890
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: So that was like why I wanted to do that,

891
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: But you know, it's twenty seventeen to like when we

892
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: started shooting May of twenty twenty two, I remember I

893
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: looked at it. I looked at our head of development,

894
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: a person in government. I was like, I can't believe

895
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: we're actually here right now, Like multiple scripts and multiple

896
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: regime changes, Disney acquiring Fox is just insane. So I

897
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: do love the process.

898
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: It's it is insane. Well that's good one.

899
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: That's another way that we are similar and this and

900
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: this time I'm not joking the business of television, the

901
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 3: business of entertainment is fascinating to me. I love it

902
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: as well. You can either get frustrated or you can

903
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: embrace it and you know, ride the wave. But it

904
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: got made. That's good too. You think of it this way.

905
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: Your development director got paid for five years instead of one.

906
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a bonus for them, whoever they are.

907
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 3: So there's all.

908
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: There's always a reason to keep push. Yeah, let's do

909
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: this in the next cycle.

910
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: But you've also done performing working with fun of your Die,

911
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: comedy by Blake, you were on broad City and stuff

912
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 3: with Whitney Cummings. Let me tell you this, you really

913
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 3: make me laugh. So I'm not the arbiter of all

914
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: things funny, even though everyone else says that I am.

915
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: I will tell you I'm not. But I you have,

916
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: honestly a very fresh, unique perspective and take, and I

917
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: hope you continue to work and at some point point

918
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: give me a job because ultimately that's the only thing

919
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: that I care about is my own ability to further

920
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 3: my career.

921
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I said that weird career.

922
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, it's fine. The whole thing that you

923
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: said was was weird too, So like, don't don't let

924
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: the just the word career slow you down, like you know,

925
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: it's just it wasn't weird. I guess it's just so

926
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: immensely selfish, which obviously we've got to know each other.

927
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: I know that's just you. So don't even worry about.

928
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: It, man, Right, I said career weird?

929
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Right, honestly, didn't hear it?

930
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: It is?

931
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: It may it made in those those headphones you got

932
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: are the beautiful studio microphone instead of an iPhone.

933
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 3: Well, you know what's unique about your setup here today

934
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: is that you still have the plug in as opposed

935
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: to the AirPods.

936
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, can I I'm just I was told

937
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: to wait in headphones. I can pull up the email.

938
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll blast it out. I'll blast it out.

939
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: Screenshot on the Instagram. It wasn't written by pain to

940
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: plug in headphones.

941
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: No, that's right. And you did well, you did very

942
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: very well in.

943
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: This thing where I try to not use Bluetooth as much.

944
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: Good.

945
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: So I ordered these for my iPhone And.

946
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: Do you want to know the truth, I don't. I

947
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: don't use them ever, No, it's my don't.

948
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: Man, I think it's smart. I don't use microwaves either.

949
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think.

950
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Microwave, don't use the microwaves at all.

951
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean I've probably used a microwave in the last

952
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: like ten years. I've probably used a microwave like once

953
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: a year maybe on average, like when there's no other option.

954
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that might be a little bit of

955
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: an exaggeration, but I'm actually with you. Here's here's the

956
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: weird thing. Okay, let's actually if we can have some

957
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 3: doctors right in. This is a serious thing.

958
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

959
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 3: I moved into a new house and it has a

960
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: built in microwave. Okay, now the microwave. There's an island.

961
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 3: I have an island in my house, and the microwave

962
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: is built into the island, which means that the microwave

963
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: is right at the same level and adjacent to.

964
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: My pelvic region.

965
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: Now this when I have used it, and I don't

966
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: use mine very much either, But when I do, I

967
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: hit the button and kind of step back real quick.

968
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel safe. Am I wrong about that? Is

969
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: this from our childhood? Is this bad? I mean, is

970
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 4: this is this bad intel? Or it just doesn't seem

971
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: like it's safe, right?

972
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: I think you're right, you know, I think you should

973
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: do is get one of those X ray things you

974
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: just tied around your waist, and then the kitchen. Yeah,

975
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: there's that joke about you know, the x ray technician

976
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: is like yeah, safe, no words, and they run off

977
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: and hide behind what could be considered like a bomb, like.

978
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: A drape themselves. No, it's totally fine.

979
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: There's no way microwaves can be healthy. It's like we're

980
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: zapping our food with micro waves. Obviously, not to get

981
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: too scientific on you there.

982
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: Ryan, I never really thought about it, but no, that

983
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: makes sense, right, And then we're.

984
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: Eating that food like obviously, but not only like what

985
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: you're saying where you step back, but like smart by

986
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: the way, but like then we're also just just eating

987
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: that food like there's there's it can't.

988
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: Be right, right, I'm I'm with you. I'm with you.

989
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Maybe we started a little maybe we start a separate podcast.

990
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: No microwave thought.

991
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

992
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 3: Is the microwave industry a powerful industry that I don't

993
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 3: want to anger.

994
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, or they I.

995
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: Feel like everybody that makes microwaves also makes like ovens,

996
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: or they make like toaster ovens.

997
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 3: And the ovens are probably more expensive. Yeah, they probably

998
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: would rather sell ovens, so in a way we would

999
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: be helping them.

1000
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we get we get big Microwave to back us,

1001
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: put in a little money.

1002
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: Big big microwave, big wave, big wave companies. I don't know.

1003
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't seem safe, but yeah, I I

1004
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: don't to your point, I don't know what kind of

1005
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 3: energy it is. But shoving energy that is transmitting to

1006
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: another device inside my head, just intellectually, it just doesn't.

1007
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it's a great thing to do,

1008
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: does not, does it?

1009
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: I agree, we're onto something, we're on or we're on

1010
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: something one one or the other. Just to you listen, uh,

1011
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 2: good luck again.

1012
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: You have my number now, so when you you have

1013
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 3: something interesting project wise, you give me a call. All right,

1014
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 3: it's got to be interesting though, Okay. Well, other than that,

1015
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: we will we will play some really slow golf and

1016
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: now I'll be playing with a champion.

1017
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're welcome and that, and you know I'm gonna

1018
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: work on this slow thing. No one told me, but

1019
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: so thanks for telling me.

1020
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like everyone told you. I feel

1021
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: like it became Oh really, yeah, I feel like it was.

1022
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: It was sort of commonly said I had to put

1023
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 3: Blake on a on a shot clock.

1024
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you were doing a shot clock thing.

1025
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, counting down.

1026
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, maybe you should play a little

1027
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: slower next year and you'll win. Sorry, man, I was

1028
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: just lashing out. It felt like you came at me.

1029
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: I feel like, no, it's I mean, it's it is

1030
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: a fair point. Uh.

1031
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: Are you a fan of the play in? Yes, it

1032
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: generates interest, it keeps more people involved exactly, and it

1033
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: does it does kind of suck. Like who wasn't New

1034
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: Orleans was? I think they were the sixth seed and

1035
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: then like they maybe two games and they went and

1036
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: had to play the plan and luckily they still got in.

1037
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: But it does suck for most teams that like, if

1038
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: it's jumbled at five to six and you have a

1039
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: couple of back games or you have just like a

1040
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 3: two minor injuries, the guys need to take a couple

1041
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: of games off, like your season could be over instead

1042
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: of you know, getting a favorable matchup in the playoffs.

1043
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: That sucks, but it does generate a lot of interest

1044
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: and also the end season tournament kind of the same way,

1045
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: like more people were watching those games than usually watch

1046
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: games during that point.

1047
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: Of the season.

1048
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: During that time, Yeah, yeah, Minnesota for real? Do they

1049
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: have a shot that winning?

1050
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1051
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think they're for real. But I like,

1052
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: I would say Denver's like the favorite in my favorite

1053
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: in the West in Boston's Like, I don't see them

1054
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: beating Denver or Boston, but could happened, for sure. I mean,

1055
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: Rudy's playing unbelievable defense, Anthony Edwards is an absolute stud

1056
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: and then their pieces around are so solid that yeah,

1057
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean for sure, could happen again. You never know,

1058
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: they get matched up with Denver and somebody goes down.

1059
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully doesn't happen, but they could get there, right.

1060
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 3: I just I do want to point out that you

1061
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: picked the two consensus favorites.

1062
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: I just I mean, well, guess what, I also picked

1063
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: Yukon before they won. So what's that mean, Scot. There's

1064
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: a reason their favorite the best team also, but also

1065
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: Denver's other than two seed Oklahoma City. Yeah, I didn't

1066
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: pick Oklahoma City there the one seed.

1067
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 2: Are you an Oklahoma City fan because you're from Oklahoma? Yeah?

1068
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy is like they the first

1069
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: year that Oklahoma City got a team was my last

1070
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: year in college, so I like I didn't grow up

1071
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: with them, so it's kind of weird where like I

1072
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: basically got into the league as they were starting out,

1073
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: so it was like I obviously would have been if

1074
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: they were there prior, but I just was never like

1075
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: a fan fan. But yeah, I want to him do well.

1076
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Still still love Ulchoma City.

1077
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: Well.

1078
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: NBA playoff basketball is very exciting. My TV is on

1079
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 3: every night. I wish you all the best. Good luck, Yeah,

1080
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: good luck with everything.

1081
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: Media. Appreciate it.

1082
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's get the golf game tuned up and

1083
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: then we'll play again.

1084
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Man, appreciate it. Thanks for having.

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Speaker 3: Me, Thanks buddy, Blake. Great to have you on my friend.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us. I'm gonna see

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Speaker 3: you soon, I hope. And thanks for all your insight

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Speaker 3: into the NBA playoffs. I will be watching mostly to

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Speaker 3: see if the Celtics and Nuggets do play in the finals.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Listeners.

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Speaker 3: Come back next week right here, same place, same channel

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Speaker 3: for another listening adventure. It's gonna be fun, really will be.

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Speaker 3: Blake won't be here, so it'll be great. Until then,

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Speaker 3: everybody have a fantastic week. Off the Beat is hosted

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Speaker 3: and executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive

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Speaker 3: producer Lang Lee. Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our

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Speaker 3: producers are Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our

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Speaker 3: talent producer is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is

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Speaker 3: Ali Amir Sahed. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed

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Speaker 3: by the one and only Creed Bragg,