1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome to the show. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: We are on every day from one until four o'clock 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: and if you miss anything, that's where we've got the 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: podcast John Cobelt Show on demand posted after four o'clock 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: on the iHeart app as well. I was in Arizona 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: over the weekend. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: We missed you well. Meeting a whole bunch of East 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Coast friends and my brother and we went to a 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: couple of baseball games and it was cold and rainy there. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: On Friday, it was it was like Northeast weather. And 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: I've been to Arizona many times and that's the first 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: time I did. Everybody had the wrong coats, everybody was dressed. 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Check the forecast. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I did. I was prepared, nobody else was. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: I was telling you about the plane flight last night. 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: We're landing about ten o'clock and normally, if things go well, 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: the plane glides in slowly and sometimes you'd hardly even 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: notice that you're landing. Right this thing dropped from the sky. 22 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention and suddenly bang, it hit hard 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and then it starts to skid, and then the plane 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: was tilting like a seesaw with the left wing and 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the right wing and the left wing and the right 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell is going on? 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: That is so terrifying, and. 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Everybody in the plane is going whoa, whoa, like we 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: were on some kind of amusement park ride. And no explanation, 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: of course, no apology explanation. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: I ask didn't you ask a flight attendant or are 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: you They don't know anything. Sometimes they do or go 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: to the pilot as you're as you're getting out and say, hey, dude. 34 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, what was that? What? But that, uh, that was 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: not one of your finest moments. There were you worried 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: it was gonna flip over like that one plane. Well, 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: actually that's the first thing that popped in my mind, 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: like how would that work? Like what kind of forces 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: do you need to have it flip over? Because it 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: was it was teetering and you could see that he 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: was trying to get control of it and it was 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: going really fast. 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: And it was it wasn't windy, was it. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: No, we didn't have crazy winds like we did last 45 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: month or no. 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: The weather was fine. In fact, That's what I was wondering, 47 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I thought, because I knew a storm was coming, but 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: I hadn't looked at the forecast. I didn't know if 49 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: it had started last night or it was coming Tuesday. 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, well, maybe the storm's here. And that 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: was a wind gust, you know, the wind shear uh 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: and and and it was felt like we were careening 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: down a hillside road on an I and I see 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: hillside road. That's what it felt like. And it was 55 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: making a screeching sound too. Oh yeah, there was nothing 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: normal about it at all. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: John, I'm surprised that you didn't. You didn't get to 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: the bottom of that and find out what happened. 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get out of there and get home. 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: And this was Lax, not Burbank, because sometimes Burbank, you. 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: Know, you have that they have a short run that 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: because they had a gas station at the end of 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: the runway. I've never oh yeah, yeah, there's a gas 64 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: station at the end of one of the runways. 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm have to pay more attention. 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so if that's your runway, you better hope he 67 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: hits the brake hard. 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: Oh, that would not be good. Yeah, Now give me 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: something else. 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: Story, Yeah, do you take Burbank? 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Yes, of course. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well I'll keep track of the runways they use. 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I'll give you another net set of nightmares. But while 74 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: I was gone, the one story that broke over the 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: weekend that I can't, I can't and I can't believe this. 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: This there is a big cover up going on. I mean, 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: this is a serious cover up, and maybe some kind 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: of crime has been committed here. Did you see that 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Karen Bass erased two months worth of text messages from 80 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the day of the fire onward. She deleted all the 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: text messages. 82 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: And isn't her office claiming that that there's no way 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: that they save her text messages? That they can't, they can't, 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: they can't, they can't find them. 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: They're claiming that she has a setting on her phone 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: for auto delete, which I'd never heard of, and I 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: haven't a time to go and see if my phone 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: has this auto delete. Well, what kind of business are 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: you in that you got to delete all your message immediately? 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I imagine drug runners do that, right if you want 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: to erase evidence. I mean, I only delete messages if 92 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: I've said something exceptionally rude about someone. 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Oh and I think, well, there you go. 94 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: You don't want somebody to yes, right, exactly right. 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 3: So she did not want her text messages seen by 96 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: the public. 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: For two months, she's been doing this and for Los 98 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Angeles Times sent out a public records request for all 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: messages sent or received by the mayor while in either 100 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: while on transit on January seventh and eighth that mentioned 101 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: the fire response or her travel plans. And they wouldn't 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: release this for two months, and the Times kept bugging her, 103 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: and they finally got a message back from a lawyer, 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: David Michaelson. She's lawyered up now he's a city lawyer. 105 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Her phone is not set to save text messages, and 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Michaelson claims there is no requirement that a city official 107 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: or employee saved text messages. What do you mean that 108 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: knows how they changed the subject or requirement And that's 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: not true. But I'll get to that in a second. 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: No requirement, but why are you deleting them? See that 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: sidesteps the question, what's the motivation to delete all your 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: text messages, especially on those days because they know, you know, instinctively, 113 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: she's seventy years old. What stuff goes wrong? There's always investigations, 114 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: there could be lawsuits, there could be criminal behavior. You've 115 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: got to save them. The city's own document retention policies 116 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: dictate that most records should be kept for at least 117 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: two years. Furthermore, because that's just policies, right, under state law, 118 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: any writing related to the conduct of government is deemed 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: a public record. And it was January tenth. The Times 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: filed a public records request for all text messages for 121 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: those two days. Two months later, and presumably all her 122 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: I bet you all her texts for the last two 123 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: months have been deleted as well. Now is here anything 124 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: the lawyer or her office? Well, this sounds like it 125 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: was written by a lawyer in office. After two months, 126 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: they finally responded to the La Times and said it 127 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: had no responsive records. Oh what does that mean? That's 128 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: some kind of weasel phrase. There's a cover up here. 129 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: She is terrified of people finding out about her accommunications, 130 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: and so's everybody else in her office, because maybe then 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: they'd all really be out of a job, they all 132 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: should be out on the street. And so now we've 133 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: got the big, the big fire cover up here. Did 134 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: she have text messages with Kristin Crowley? 135 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: But she said that she she wasn't warned. 136 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: She claimed she was in constant yea, she claimed she 137 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: wasn't warned. And then she was claimed she was in 138 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: constant contact from that military plane. It took her twenty 139 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: four hours to get home seven thousand miles away. And 140 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: now this this this attorney, Well, let me go back 141 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to the no responsive records that that Bass's office gave 142 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: as the reason. They never explained whether it was whether 143 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: the office was withholding any records period like they just said, 144 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: we have no responsive response, which is no responsive records, 145 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: which does it. It doesn't mean you don't have stuff, 146 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: and it doesn't explain whether you're choosing not to release 147 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: it or they don't exist. No reasons were given for 148 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: not producing the records. Then on Friday, see that was Thursday. 149 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: On Friday, the lawyer Michaelson said that Bass's phone auto 150 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: deletes text messages and has for at least two years. 151 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Administrative Code Section twelve point three B six 152 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: dictates that most records shall I means you must shall 153 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: be retained for a minimum of two years, unless a 154 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: shorter period is otherwise permitted by law, or a longer 155 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: period is required by law, or if there's some other 156 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: state law that contradicts it. So there's state law, there's 157 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Administrative Code, there's the city document retention policies. 158 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Michaelson is trying to argue on a technicality, saying that 159 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: that particular section does not apply to texts because there 160 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: was some state attorney general opinion from nineteen eighty one, 161 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: except there are no text messages in nineteen eighty one. 162 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Texts are ephemeral, and when you have fleeting thoughts and 163 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: random bits of information is not something that people in 164 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: political office have to protect. Well, text is not ephemeral. Well, 165 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: there's no difference, really functional difference between a text in 166 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: any email. 167 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: But if you're having lawsuits over the fire, then this, no, 168 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: this is this is absurd. 169 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: You know, and it's just our right to know just 170 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: how badly you screwed this up, and how badly all 171 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the other people in government screwed this up. That's our 172 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: right to know. Don't start quoting nineteen eighty one attorney 173 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: general opinions that must have been what fifteen twenty years 174 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: before there were text messages. Wow, so they're covering up 175 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: a big story. You notice she doesn't speak very far. Yeah, 176 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: we're moving forward. We're moving forward. This really is outrageous. 177 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: It's because there's a lot of bad stuff. Wow. 178 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: Uh. 179 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: There's a a guy named David loy' is the First 180 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Amendment Coalition legal director, and he disagreed with Bass's lawyer 181 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: on the interpretation of that nineteen eighty one opinion. Yes, 182 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: text can be considered ephemeral, just like emails. But as 183 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: I as I read the plain language of LA's administrative Code, 184 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the city imposes on itself a more stringent record retection 185 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: requirement than state law might require otherwise. And another attorney 186 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: and public records expert named Kelly Avilas said the expl 187 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: explanation offered by Bass's lawyer is flawed. A mayor does 188 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: not get to determine what is or is not a 189 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: public record based on the device used. 190 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: Can't you find her text in the cloud? I'm assuming 191 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: she has an iPhone. That could be incorrect, but I 192 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: feel like there must be a way to find these 193 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: deleted texts. 194 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if all the recipients have also deleted all 195 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: their texts. On the other end, of course they have. Well, 196 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: my I've looked into how my system works. If I 197 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: delete a text, it's still held for thirty days. But 198 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: you have to go out of your way to auto delete. 199 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Is just something I'm not familiar with. I'm sure there's 200 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: ten thousand settings that I can explain it to you 201 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: during the break, because there is an auto delete feature 202 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: on the iPhone. Oh there is? 203 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand 204 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 5: from KFI Am six forty. 205 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: We're on every day from one until four o'clock. You 206 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 1: can follow us at John Cobelt Radio on social media 207 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Radio on social media. So Eric investigated his 208 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: own phone here because we were talking about how Karen 209 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: Bass apparently has no text messages from the days of 210 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: the fire or maybe anything else that she has a 211 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: setting on her phone for auto delete. There is no 212 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: auto delete setting on an iPhone. Eric just showed me. 213 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: You have to go into settings and you could decide 214 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: to keep your emails for thirty days and then they 215 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: would go poof. I'm sorry, the text messages correct thirty days, 216 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: then your text messages would all self delete. Or you 217 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: can keep your texts around for a year, or you 218 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: keep them forever. Now those are the only three settings 219 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: thirty days a year or forever. Otherwise you've got to 220 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: constantly delete the messages yourself by hand. So unless she 221 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: he's got some other phone system, I mean, I don't 222 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: know about the Android system. I never had an Android phone. 223 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: And they're claiming that a nineteen eighty one Attorney General 224 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: opinion in California, with the language you could interpret it 225 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: that a text message can be considered ephemeral and you 226 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: would be required to save it. But they're talking about 227 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: there is no There were no text messages in nineteen 228 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: eighty one. The very first one Eric discovered was nineteen 229 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: ninety two, and I don't remember any text messages in 230 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. It was I guess you could do 231 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: them when the flip phones came out, but they were difficult. 232 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: You didn't have a regular keyboard where you could easily type. 233 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: You had to use the phone buttons, and you had 234 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: to match the letters under each digit for the phone 235 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: dialing buttons. So I don't ever remember until I got 236 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: an iPhone, a smartphone, which would have been in twenty thirteen. 237 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: I had a BlackBerry for a few years before that, 238 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: but I just don't remember texting my life. So the 239 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: idea of a nineteen eighty one opinion by the Attorney 240 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: General having any relevance just sounds preposterous. And the fact 241 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: that they had to go search for an excuse back 242 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty one shows you that they're aggressively trying 243 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: to cover it up, because I'm sure that Karen Bass 244 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: didn't know that there was an attorney general opinion in 245 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one which never applied to texts anyway. So 246 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: this is and considering it took two months for them 247 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: to respond to the La Times request for the public records, 248 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: and then they came out with this hash of an 249 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: excuse an explanation. They've done bad stuff here. Now, if 250 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: she destroyed these records, what's the penalty, And who's going 251 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: to investigate to determine if she destroyed the records? Since 252 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: we have one party rule in the state, nobody's going 253 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: to go after her out. 254 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: What about Governor Newsom. You know he has this new podcast, yes, the. 255 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: New and Improved Governor news that's right, that's right. 256 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: He is trying to run for president, even though he 257 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: denies that, so he should be investigating this. 258 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: That's right. If he wants to show that he's a 259 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: new newsom yep, that he's down the middle newsom yep. 260 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: Then I think he ought to have his Attorney general 261 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: start an investigation and come to a conclusion first whether 262 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: she violated the law, and then see if there are 263 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: any backups here, something on the cloud like you said yes, 264 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: or maybe some of the recipients. You could subpoena Kristin 265 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Crowley's phone and the phone of that that Dufus, the 266 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: acting mayor or Marquise Harris Dawson. 267 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure Kristin Crowley has some text right that she's 268 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: holding on to. I bet that she didn't delete them because. 269 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: She, oh, because she needs it for her case exactly right, 270 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: exactly or because eventually, uh, the grim political reaper is 271 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: going to come for her and then she's going to 272 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: be filing a lawsuit over a wrongful firing because Kenonia's 273 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: has got to be the well Bass has got to go, 274 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: and Kenonias has got to go. Let's start there, and 275 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: everybody on on Bassis staff they were probably firing her 276 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: off thousands of messages to each other that that will 277 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: be little Wiener guy who mixed stuff up, Zach Sidel, 278 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: I think that's his name. All of them, all of 279 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: them should have their uh, all their messages confiscated, because 280 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: not only were they part of the greatest botch in 281 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: any city's history, no city has ever So for the 282 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: losses that Los Angeles did so fast in a fire, 283 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: nobody was prepared. Nobody took it seriously. And that's the truth. 284 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: Nobody took it seriously. No one was prepared. The response 285 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: was horrific. Now did all the are all these people 286 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: they have phones on auto delete? I wonder if we 287 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: could get a subpoena on everybody's text messages, if we'd 288 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: find out they're all on Well, there is no what 289 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: am I saying? There is no auto delete, not on 290 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: an iPhone. There's no such thing. You'd have to intentionally 291 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: decide to delete the message. 292 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: Apple should be investigating. 293 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: And by the way, we don't have any proof that 294 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: what he's saying is true. Is this David Michaelson, He 295 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: could just be saying stuff. Well, that's what my client 296 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: told me. So did Karen bas say, yes, mister Michael, 297 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: my phone's on auto delete? And did he bother to 298 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: check again? Assuming an iPhone chance it might not be one? 299 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: So that this is nonsense here, this is cover up 300 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: what they did collectively. If it isn't a crime, it 301 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: ought to be a crime, and it certainly is going 302 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: to invite massive civil lawsuits and it should. And you 303 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: know what, the people involved, like Karen Bass ought to 304 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: have her all her net worth liquidated. She ought to 305 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: pay the families whatever she's got, whatever she's collected in 306 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: all her years of public service. She ought to be 307 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: paying off the families personally. And that Quinone's character. Oh, 308 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: we'll get to her next. Suddenly, we're going to be 309 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: spending seven hundred thousand dollars a year on security for 310 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: Genie Kinonias the DW Do you believe this? The Heat's 311 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: keep on coming. 312 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 313 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: A six forty. We're on every day from one until 314 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: four and after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand 315 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: also on the iHeart app. Well, we're gonna have Nathan 316 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: hochmannon coming up after two o'clock. We just got to 317 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: confirm that he's going to talk about his decisions in 318 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: the Menendez brother's case. He had an announcement today, so 319 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: we'll get into that after two o'clock. A lot going on. 320 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: We've been talking about Karen Bass. It was discovered by 321 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: the La Times that Karen Bass deleted all her text 322 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: messages from the days of the fire, every one of 323 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: them lost gone, and her attorney, David Michaelson is claiming 324 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: she has auto delete, a setting for auto delete, and 325 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking up online to see if android phones have 326 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: such a thing. But that you know, they have something 327 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: where you can delete old messages. 328 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: But. 329 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: You have to you have to turn that on yourself. 330 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: You have to decide which the timeframe for which old 331 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: messages you want deleted, like I said, Like I said 332 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: on iPhone, you get to choose either it gets deleted 333 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: after thirty days a year or you keep them forever. Now, 334 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: another one of the characters in this horrific tragedy was 335 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Genie Kinonies. She was the uh ding dong that didn't 336 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: refill the seti Inez reservoir, which was one hundred and 337 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: seventeen million gallons, And she's getting a lot of criticism. 338 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: So now the DWP, and this is tomorrow, at their meeting, 339 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: they're going to consider whether to spend seven hundred and 340 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: three thousand, five hundred and seventy seven dollars on on 341 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: security for her. Yeah, that's the exact number, seven hundred 342 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: three thousand and five seventy seven because of all the 343 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: threats that she's getting. And again there was very low 344 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: water pressure, very little water available, and the Santienez reservoir 345 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: sat empty for a year. There was a torn cover 346 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: on top of the reservoir. Should have been fixed in 347 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: a month for one hundred and thirty grand. So they 348 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't spend one hundred and thirty grand to fix the 349 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: reservoir cover. But they've got seven hundred and three thousand 350 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: dollars to give her security because of all the crap 351 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: she's taken from the public. That's fascinating. They're going to 352 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: spend what six times as much money on her security 353 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: they would have cost to fix the cover. Now, the 354 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: cheap excuse that the DWP is given for not doing 355 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: their job and fixing the cover was on. They had 356 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: to go through a competitive bidding process, you know, that's 357 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: those are the rules. Oh, you want to hear this one. 358 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Her security contract is not going through a formal competitive 359 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: bidding process. They're just awarding the money to Pinkerton Consulting 360 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: and Investigations. She's going to get one designated armed security 361 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: agent and a driver a driver. So now after not 362 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: filling up the reservoir, the reward is she's going to 363 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: get driven to work and back every day under the 364 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: guise of security. The company will provide security agents trained 365 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: in personal safety, defensive tactics, travel security, and surveillance. They 366 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: all have military or surveillance backgrounds. Has a water administrator 367 00:23:59,320 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: ever needed? 368 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: This is a first. 369 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: She apparently spoke at the DWP Commission meeting upset with 370 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: her critics because a lot of people said she wasn't qualified, 371 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: because she wasn't qualified, and she said that she had 372 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: twenty years plus involved in emergency management for the US 373 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Coast Guard. I also have a mechanical engineering degree. I 374 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: graduated with honors. I have two graduate degrees, and I 375 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: like to get tough jobs, and this is a tough job. Well, 376 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: what was the use of your degrees? You got a 377 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: me mechanical engineering degree and two graduate degrees, but you 378 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: couldn't fix basically an oversized pool cover. They didn't teach 379 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: that in graduate school that if your cover's torn. Instead, 380 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: they drained the reservoir. They drained the reservoir and then 381 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: they kept it empty for a year. Maybe she needed 382 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: a third or fourth degree, and she could have figured 383 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: out to fix the cover or replace the cover in 384 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: a month, because that's what it would have took it most, 385 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: and then refill the reservoir before fire season. This is 386 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: a phenomenon that we are plagued with in this country. 387 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: People with degrees and no common sense. They're educated and 388 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: they're stupid. Guy I know once described them as educated fools, 389 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: and that's what they are. They're educated fools. They love 390 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: to waive their diplomas at you. Why you know, I'm 391 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: an expert. Look at this engineering degree, and I've got 392 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: this graduate degree, and I got a graduate Say you 393 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: know what, that's really wonderful. It proves you can sit 394 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: in a classroom at a desk and pass tests. But 395 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: when there's a moment like hey there's tens of thousands 396 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: of homes that might burn down, why didn't you fill 397 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: the red Why didn't you fix the cover? And by 398 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: the way, they could have fixed the cover in a month. 399 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: In one month using DWP personnel, they didn't have to 400 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: put it out for a competitive bid. Of course, you don't. 401 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: You declare an emergency. That's what they did with her 402 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: security detail. They just declared it an emergency. There was 403 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: no formal competitive big processes, although word got out and 404 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: they received two other proposals that were far more expensive. 405 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: Glad to know they're saving a little money there. Why 406 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: was she speaking though at length about her resume and 407 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: she hasn't spoken about why she didn't fell the reservoir. 408 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: How come they didn't ask her that at the hearing? 409 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: This is what I don't understand. She's speaking out defending 410 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: your resume. Yet your resume is going to put out 411 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: the fire. Your resume is going to fill out, fill 412 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: up the reservoir. Why don't you talk about what your 413 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: thought process was? If there was a thought process and 414 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 1: ignoring the damn thing for eleven months, why don't any 415 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: of them talk about this? Kristen Crowley never talked about it. 416 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: She had a lot to say at the hearing when 417 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: she was before the city council what she was trying 418 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: to save her own ass. But actually, you know what 419 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: the public wants to know, You know what every homeowner 420 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: in the Palin States wants to know. It was like, 421 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: why wasn't the restivoir filled up? Why? What's wrong with 422 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: you people? Karen Bass deletes her email messages. Keinoniaz is 423 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: waiving all her graduate degrees in the air, Crowley is 424 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: filling out all the paperwork to challenge her firing, and 425 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, get some kind of settlement from the city. 426 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: Nobody is saying a word about the reservoir or why 427 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: the firefighters. The firefighters were many of them were late. 428 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: Many neighborhoods, they never showed. 429 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Didn't show up. 430 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 3: I had dinner with friends over the weekend and they 431 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: lost their home in the Palisades. Not a single firefighter 432 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: showed up to their block. 433 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: So you have a friend where the firefighters never showed. 434 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: I have a friend the firefighters never showed and he 435 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: stayed there all five thirty in the afternoon, and six 436 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: point fifteen his house burned down. He watched it on 437 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 1: the ring camera. Fire starts at ten thirty. This is 438 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: what you said. They figured out that the fire had 439 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: to bring. 440 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: Thousands of homes. 441 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 3: She never, in her wildest dreams, thought she would have 442 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 3: to evacuate, And then when they did evacuate, she just packed, 443 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: not even that much because she thought for sure her 444 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: house was going to be fine, and it wasn't. 445 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: But the fire I had to go through thousands of homes. Yes, 446 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: to get to your friend's house. Yes, all right, So 447 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: how come no firefighters got in the way in all 448 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: on all those blocks where five thousand homes were situated. 449 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: That's what they're trying to figure out. 450 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Nobody talks about that. Kenunyas has got plenty of information 451 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: if you'd like to go through all her her graduate degrees. 452 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 2: Who's her boss? 453 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: Best hired her or appointed her? Because the city, the 454 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: city decides what goes on at the DWP. It's like 455 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: one of those quasi independent agencies, but ultimately it's the 456 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: city and the city council. 457 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: So it'd have to be Bass would have to fire 458 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 3: her as she did Crowley. 459 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I think so, because she's the one who appointed her. Okay, 460 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if the commission I sometimes they have 461 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: these processes, so I don't know the exact answer. One 462 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: reason they went to private security is Kennia has got 463 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: protection from the LA Airport Police at first, then a 464 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: detail of LAPD officers, and now they're going to go 465 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: spend seven hundred thousand on private security. Wow, that's about 466 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: five or six pool covers. There Have they ever filled 467 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: up the reservoir since? Well? I guess there's nothing left 468 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: to burn, so it doesn't matter. And why did Karen 469 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Bass to lead all our text messages from the fire arm? 470 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: And we're going to keep asking that. This is intensifying 471 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: because not only do you have to me this is 472 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: all a crime. Now we're finding out about the cover up. 473 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Now we're finding out how nobody wants to talk and 474 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: everybody's the leading messages, and suddenly lawyers are being quoted 475 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: instead of the principles responsible. 476 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: Can this be something that Hawkman can get involved in? 477 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder no he I think he has some 478 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: process charges, but the Attorney General could conduct an investigation. 479 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this coming up, and Nathan Hakman 480 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: is going to talk about his Medendez brother's stance coming 481 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: up after two o'clock. 482 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 483 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: In about ten minutes twelve minutes, we're going to have 484 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Nathan Hochman on the Alley County District Attorney. He made 485 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: a public statement today saying he's going to ask the 486 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: court to withdraw gas Goon's motion for resentencing. Gascone wanted 487 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: the court to resentence the Menendez brothers, presumably the time 488 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: served and then they'd be able to get out, and 489 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Hawkman said today no, because, among other things, the Menendez 490 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: brothers keep lying about their rolling the case. The brothers 491 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: persist in telling lies about the self defense that they claimed. 492 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: We will talk to Nathan Hakman for details there, but 493 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: he wants to withdraw motion. It's interesting because in the 494 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: past week, Newsom was making noises about asking the parole 495 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: Board to determine whether the Menendez brothers would be a 496 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: safe release, do an analysis on the impact of releasing 497 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: the Menendez brothers. How would they behave if they were 498 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: let go? So it seems like Newsom is going on 499 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: in one direction Hakman and the other. Well, have Nathan 500 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Hakman coming on after two o'clock. We've been telling you 501 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: this hour that the Karen Bass I think the headline 502 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: of the weekend was Karen Bass it's been discovered deleted 503 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: all her fire messages, everything from that whole fire week. 504 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: That's that's all gone. And it took them two months 505 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: before they admitted it. They refused to respond to the 506 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: La Times request for the public information and they claim, well, 507 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: it's on auto delete, which now you have to even 508 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: if it's on they had to manually decide to delete 509 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: whatever's deleted. That that's a conscious decision that you make 510 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: on your phone. And then he's relying on some nineteen 511 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: eighty one Attorney General opinion on ephemeral communications. There were 512 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: no text messages in nineteen eighty one, so you could 513 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: tell this is a load. This is a load of 514 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: horse veces. Here she erased everything because she doesn't want 515 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: the world to know what was really going on. It's 516 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: too embarrassing. It's proof of her incompetence. Somebody looked at 517 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: the messages and said, well, these have got to go. 518 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: No good. Meantime, the DWP is going to consider tomorrow 519 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: to spend seven hundred thousand dollars for security for Genice Qinoniez, 520 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: the lady who didn't fill the reservoir. And on top 521 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: of all this, the city Controller Kenneth Mahea says the 522 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: City of Los Angeles is in trouble financially. Basically, it's broke. 523 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: They have a shortfall of one hundred and forty million 524 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: dollars for this fiscal year, another seventy three million next year. 525 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: The city is going to spend overspend three hundred million 526 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: dollars three hundred million dollars over budget, and he says, 527 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: we have a big gap to fill. You know what's 528 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: one of the big costs. One hundred million dollars in 529 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: fire department over time. 530 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: Well, doesn't Kenyons make a lot of money? Can't she 531 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: pay for her own security? 532 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: She makes seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, right, 533 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: so yes, she could pay for her own security. Problem 534 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: solved and she should. Why we're DWP customers. 535 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 2: Yes we are. 536 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: Why do I have to pay for Denise Cononie's security? 537 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to. I'm paying enough. 538 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: I could be gone for three weeks and my DWP 539 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: bill will be exactly the same as what I'm home. 540 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 2: For three weeks. 541 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating? Yes? How does that work? So? 542 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: Why am I getting screwed? 543 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: Seven hundred thousand dollars in security? And she makes seven 544 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, soha says, one 545 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in overtime? But but what the allright? 546 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: This this is from Katie Rslavsky. Oh she's the she's 547 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: the chair of the City council Budget Committee. Oh my god, 548 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: she couldn't run a lemonade stand look at the Look 549 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: at the idiots in charge of Los Angeles, Katie r Aslavsky, 550 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: she couldn't even get that naked woman who is sleeping 551 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: on a sofa in the middle of San Vicente Boulevard 552 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: off the show. Remember that there was a naked woman 553 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: who was on the front page of the London Daily Mail. 554 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: She's living on a sofa, totally nude, and Katie Arslovsky 555 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out, couldn't figure out how to get 556 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: her off the street. Oh, she's in charge of the budget. 557 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Yaryslavsky says, one hundred million dollars in overtime. But really, 558 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: what the fire department needs, based on conversations with them, 559 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: is their facilities need to be upgraded. No kidding, Wow, 560 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: we're talking Albert Einstein level genius here. Really, you mean 561 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: the news about the one hundred fire trucks being in 562 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: the garage with no mechanics to fix them, that led 563 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: you to believe they need an upgrading facilities. In fact, 564 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: she says they need more people fixing the trucks. 565 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: No, really, you didn't know that they were missing dozens 566 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 4: of mechanics. What about the fire hydrants, the fire hydrants too, 567 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: the fire engines, the fire hydrants, the mechanics, the water. 568 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: Wow, they really destroyed the place when no one was looking, 569 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: and we still wouldn't have known it except for the fire. 570 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: It exposed everything. But the city is broke. Yeah, Karen Bass, 571 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: I can't tell you what a good choice that was. 572 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: If you voted for Karen Bass, would you move before 573 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: you vote for her again the next time? Could you 574 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: please move out of the city if you voted for 575 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: her before we come back. Nathan Hackman and he wants 576 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: to withdraw the George gascon re sentencing petition that was 577 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: sent to the court about the Menendez brothers. He doesn't 578 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: want a resentencing hearing because he doesn't want them anenda. 579 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: His brothers very likely to be released. Debor Mark Live 580 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: CAFI twenty four hour Newsroom. 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