1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we're 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: going to dive into the vacuum of leadership from the 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Democrats once again here. But first off, Clay just a 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: news item that is predictable, pretty amusing, and will also 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I think be used or should be used as yet 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: another data point showing why Democrats cannot be trusted to 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: speak the truth on even the most obvious and basic things. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden has said that he is now broke because 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: his artwork is no longer selling. I just want everyone 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: to understand we are led to believe if you were 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: an avid CNN watcher, if you believed Morning Joe and 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Madaw and the rest of them, if you thought they 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: were telling you the truth all these years, you would 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: then have to be in a position where you think 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: that all all of the artistic inspiration that led people 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: to buy Hunter Biden's artwork for up to five one 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars of painting clay, Yeah, half a million 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: dollars for a painting. Somehow, Hunter Biden's creative genius has 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: at exactly the moment that Daddy is no longer president 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: or going to be president or vice president, etc. At 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: exactly that moment, this modern day Michelangelo has lost his 22 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: creative touch. I just don't know what to say. How 23 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: could anybody have seen this coming? Except everybody saw this coming. 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Everybody knew what this was. And I would take you 25 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: even back further because I remember having these debates on 26 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: CNN when I was just a lowly, lowly conservative contributor 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: at CNN, when they used to have those and I 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: would say, we all know the Clinton Foundation is basically 29 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: a Clinton brand and slush fund. It's a nonprofit that 30 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: has really no purpose other than allowing the Clintons to 31 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: have a global brand that is taxpayer advantage and funded. 32 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: And the only reason people give to this, especially these 33 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: foreign countries, is to have influence with the Clintons that 34 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with charity. And they said, no, no, 35 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: that's not true. And then when Hillary lost in twenty sixteen, 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: they had to shut down the Clinton Global Initiative within months. 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Suddenly all these people didn't care about charity anymore. Well, Clay, suddenly, 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: now that Hunter Biden no longer has a daddy who 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: is president, people don't care about his artwork. And I guess, 40 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: I guess Anderson Cooper must be shocked by this. 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: Here is the specifics. This is from a court filing. 42 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: According to Politico, he struggled to sell his paintings. Only 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: one has he sold in the past fourteen months, compared 44 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: with twenty seven that he sold in the prior to 45 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: or three years. He has now significant debts and nobody 46 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: is buying his book either. He sold just forty two 47 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: hundred copies of his book in the past year. And 48 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: here's a quote from his filing. Book given the positive 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: feedback and reviews of my artwork and memoir, I was 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: expecting to obtain paid speaking engagements and paid appearances, but 51 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: that has not happened. Nobody cared about your stupid book, Hunter, 52 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Nobody cared about your artwork. 53 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: They were paying. 54 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: To try to get access to your daddy, who now 55 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: has dementia, and nobody cares about you at all. I'm 56 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: sorry for the brutal truth. Nobody wants to pay you 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: to speak, nobody wants to pay you to appear. 58 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: You mattered because your. 59 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Dad finagled his way into the White House, and as 60 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: soon as that was over, he was over hold on. 61 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: You're forgetting some thing, mister Clay Travis Hunter. Biden is 62 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: also a globally renowned Ukrainian natural gas markets experts. It's 63 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: good point worth at least eighty thousand dollars a month 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: for his consulting expertise. So I don't know why he 65 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: doesn't just put himself out there back on the natural 66 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: gas arbitrage and consulting circuit and he could start making 67 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: eighty k again. Because remember we were we were led 68 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: to believe by all these so honest journals that it 69 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the fact that Hunter Biden's 70 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: dad was Joe Biden, and it wasn't that Ukrainian oligarchs 71 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: were buying off the crack addict son of the then 72 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: Vice president and now at one point president. It was 73 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: that he was a Yale educated lawyer and knew those 74 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: Ukrainian natural gas markets backwards and forwards. This is what 75 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: you can go back and see. They they made these 76 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: arguments so clearly it must be true. 77 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: And maybe Hunter believed them because in his court filings 78 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: where he says that he's basically bankrupt, the smartest man, 79 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: remember that Joe Biden knew the I hope that remember 80 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: the daughter Hunter, the granddaughter Hunter's daughter with the London Roberts, 81 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: who we interviewed on the program at one point because 82 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: she published a book. Do you remember that they tried 83 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: to settle Hunter's obligations as a father by giving. 84 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Her the artwork. 85 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: I hope, I hope, I deeply hope. I don't know 86 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: what the settlement ended up being for that little girl. 87 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: I deeply hope that they didn't take the Hunter Biden 88 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: artwork as a child support. 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: Payment in Loua. I mean that that is. 90 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: To be indicative of just how despicable Joe Biden actually 91 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: was in real life. 92 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Remember they put all the. 93 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Stockings up for the grandchildren and the cat and dogs, 94 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: I think, and left the little girl off the family 95 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: stocking list. They refused to acknowledge her as a granddaughter. 96 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: I still think Joe Biden has never met her in 97 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: his entire life, and he doesn't have Unfortunately, I don't 98 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: think that many years left. I would think you would 99 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: want to meet all your grandchildren, even if you didn't 100 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: necessarily approve of the way that one of your children 101 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: had fathered that child. But Hunter said he had no money, 102 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: and then they tried to settle by him giving all 103 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: this artwork to his daughter. And I hope that they 104 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: got cash instead of the artwork, because nobody's buying these things. 105 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: And remember that one guy who was like Hunter's sugar daddy, 106 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: that guy you talk about a bad investment. I think 107 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: he had given like seven or eight million dollars to Hunter, 108 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: tapped out, basically had nothing left. 109 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: He's never getting his money back either. Okay, but just 110 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: the reason we can transition this. But I just think 111 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: the reason that this matters to the degree Again, it's 112 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: not about celebrating the clear destruction of a very flawed 113 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: individual's finances and reputation everything else. He should have gone 114 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to prison. You, any of you listening, would have gone 115 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: to prison. Hunter didn't because of who his daddy was, 116 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. He broke the law many 117 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: times over, should have gone to prison, was pardoned. As 118 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: we all know, Joe Biden, in a truly biden Esque 119 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: last act, pardon his effectively is immediate family, all of 120 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: his immediate family. I don't think Jill was in there, 121 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: but a lot of his immediate family got pardons from him. 122 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: The whole thing was so slimy and gross, and I 123 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: just think it ties in clix. I know we can 124 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: talk about the Gavin Newsom thing here, but it ties 125 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: into the media to try to destroy Trump, completely abandoned 126 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: all pretense of rationality and credibility, and to the point 127 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: where they would even say, no, Hunter, Biden's actually really 128 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: talented as an artist. No, Biden wasn't getting paid. It 129 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a pay to play thing with Barisma and Ukraine. 130 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's just really smart and was going to 131 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: advise they were making these arguments, or at least they 132 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: were shouting down the people who were making these arguments 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: saying it's irrelevant, it doesn't matter. No, it was very relevant. 134 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden sold out our country. Joe Biden is a 135 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: corrupt piece of trash. And now we all see it, 136 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and now that it doesn't matter to the Democrats anymore, 137 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: we can say it. And with that, would you like 138 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: to know have the discussion of mister Gavin Newsom, who 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: I think sees this. I think he sees this. I 140 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: think he knows that the media environment has changed. I 141 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: think he knows the Democrats no longer have the cloak 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: of social media invincibility anymore, because thank you Elon, by 143 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: the way, he broke the damn on this. 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Do you remember it's been a long time and I 145 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: bet a lot of you out there remember it. 146 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember it. Buck. 147 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: Early in Bill Clinton's tenure as a national Democrat figure, 148 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: he had what's called a Sister suol Job moment. I 149 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: don't do you remember this? 150 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: It was. 151 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: It was Clinton turning his back on the left in 152 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. He called out this rapper whose name 153 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: was Sister Soulja, who had sister Soldier Jase. 154 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I might be. 155 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: Mispronouncing it, but she had a popular rap where she 156 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: basically bragged about cops getting shot and and all of 157 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: this uh sort of violent behavior in her rap lyrics. 158 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: And Bill Clinton said, yeah, this is not good. He 159 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: turned his back on her, and it was that that 160 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: sort of propelled him into a new age of Democrat leadership. 161 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: This feels to me like Gavin Newsom trying to turn 162 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: his back on the ascendant left in the party because 163 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: he recognizes that they've lost their mind. Here is his 164 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: conversation with Charlie Kirk. Note he dodged a little bit, 165 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: but it's already considered to be a repudiation of the 166 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: idea of men in women's sports. Listen to that cut. 167 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Would you do something like that? Would you say no 168 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: men in female sports. Well, I think it's an issue 169 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. I 170 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 3: revere sports, and so the issue of fairness is completely legit. 171 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: And I saw that the last couple of years. Boy 172 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: did I saw how you guys were able to weaponize 173 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: that issue. That weaponize, don't that's webinize maybe the jority 174 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 3: of you're right, but you were able to shine a 175 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: light on highlight it in a way that frankly, there 176 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: are not that many we're talking about. I think two, 177 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: five hundred and ten thousand. No, No, but I just didn't realize. 178 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: It's eight hundred ninety medals in trophies that we know 179 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: of in the last five years. That's a lot. 180 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 5: No. 181 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna let me step back say completely fair 182 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: on the issue of fairness, I completely agree. 183 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: He didn't say anything. There's no valiation. 184 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: By the way, it's being so interesting that and I 185 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: tweeted out to Gavin Newsome, yes or no? Do you 186 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: believe that men should be able to compete in women's sports? 187 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: And here is the way the New York Times is 188 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: covering this though, Buck this is the New York Times headline. 189 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: Newsom splits with Democrats on transgender athletes quote it's deeply unfair. 190 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: The remarks by Governor Gavin Newsom of California, a potential 191 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: White House hopeful, were an extraordinary break from fellow Democrats 192 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: and signaled a newly defensive position on the issue. 193 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: This is The New York He say, did I miss it? 194 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: Did he say that it's deeply unfair for men to 195 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: compete against women? I didn't. I just I just heard 196 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: it's an issue of fairness. 197 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: He said it's deeply unfair at one point in the 198 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: embedded in that age. Okay, well that did it, But 199 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: he didn't say I don't support it, because then he 200 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: followed up by saying, but we got issues of suicide 201 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: and everything else. What I'm what I think is interesting 202 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: here is I feel like this was calculated by Newsome. 203 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: I don't think The New York Times would be writing 204 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: this story unless Gavin Newsome were intentionally trying to break 205 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: from this. And by the way, other Democrats are already 206 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: being asked about this. When we come back. Buck Hakeem Jefferies, 207 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: who is the House Minority Leader. He was asked about it, 208 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: and you're gonna want to hear his answer because it 209 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: is incompetent even by Democrat answering questions level incompetence. But yes, 210 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: it's still the way Gavin Newsom answered it. He didn't 211 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: answer it on yes or no, which is what to me, 212 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: This is the same demand that was the most Gavin 213 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: Newsome answer. 214 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, totally. I'm totally with you on that 215 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: it's a thing we should talk about. I totally agree 216 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: that having a conversation about the thing is worth doing. 217 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Right now, it's like, well, are you agreeing? Are you 218 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: agreeing that we should talk about a thing? And whether 219 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: we agree on it or not, That's what I'm pushing 220 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: him on. And we've invited Gavin Newsom on this program. 221 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: He claims he wants to talk to everybody that he 222 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: watches Fox News all just Clay thinks Gavin's kind of 223 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: a mallugion. You know, if he just knew you know 224 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 225 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Why I wouldn't mind going to French laundry and having 226 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: a nice glass of chardonnay, Ali producer Ali, We have 227 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: invited Gavin Newsom, like over a couple of years ago, right, 228 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: we invited him on the show. So he has had 229 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: an open invite because he's now claiming, Oh, I want 230 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: to talk to people on the right. You knew a 231 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: much better voice than Gavin Evil Keanu Reeves is a 232 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: very good description of Gavin news fan boys. But we 233 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: have offered him the opportunity to speak to the largest 234 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Trump voting radio audience in the country for a couple 235 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: of years now. And did we ever get a response 236 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: to Ali? What was the Newsome response? What was the 237 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: half response? 238 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: So they were interested at first, but then suddenly they 239 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: started ghosting me. So that was a few years ago. 240 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: So I suspect they figured out who you were. I 241 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: probably heard that Gavin Newsom impression. 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The 275 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: headline from the New York Times deeply unfair. Though Buck 276 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: was right that specific phrase was not included in what 277 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: we played, so we went back make sure you can 278 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: hear directly here is that answer. 279 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: Now, you right now should come out and be like, 280 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: you know what, the young man who's about to win 281 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: the state championship in the long jump in female sports. 282 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: But that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should. 283 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: Step out and say no, no, And I appreciate and like, 284 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: would you do something like that? 285 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: Would you say no men in female sports? 286 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: Well, it's I think it's an issue of fairness. I 287 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: completely agree with you on that. It is an issue 288 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: of fair So it's deeply. 289 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Okay, it's deeply unfair. It's not fairness. I'm okay. So 290 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: he did say deeply unfair. I'm still not convinced that 291 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't leave himself the room there. You know, Look, 292 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a trial balloon thing. 293 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I think, Clay, to your point about the New York Times, 294 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: they're they're they're trying to massage this a little bit. 295 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: But he could turn around and say, I think it's 296 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: unfair to the woman who will lose the metal, and 297 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to that young trans woman who 298 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have her accomplishment his accomplishment under you know, you 299 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: see what I mean. I think there's wiggle room. 300 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: So there there is, and can again, I'm gonna ask 301 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: for another cut the one that I shared. Can we 302 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: get where he pivots from the deeply unfair buck he 303 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: then goes into because we have high rates of trans suicide, 304 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: which is why I shared earlier today, I straight up 305 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: question for Gavin Newsom. Should men who identify as women 306 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: be able to compete in women's sports? 307 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Yes? Or no? 308 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: It's a very simple question. It's a very simple one 309 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: to answer. My answer is no. What is his and 310 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: so we'll play that for you. Plus Hakim Jeffrey stepping 311 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 2: all over himself on the backside here buck. But I 312 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: do think this is Gavin Newsom's attempt to distinguish himself 313 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 2: from what he sees as the crazy talent element of the. 314 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: He's trying to find a way through. He's trying to 315 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: find he's trying to split the baby, if you will. 316 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: He's trying to find a way to keep himself in 317 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: the good graces of the left, but also sound less insane. 318 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: But I just Clay, if we have him on this show, 319 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: we'll just have to make him watch the Matra Man 320 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Randy Savage South Park clip and be like, does that 321 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: seem deeply unfair to you? 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Easy to help 337 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: protect yourself, Join now say forty percent off your first 338 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 2: year with Clay as the promo code LifeLock dot Com 339 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: promo code Clay forty percent off. 340 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Okay, we're marching our 341 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: way through to get to exactly the heart of amount 342 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: of New York Times big headline today about Gavin Newsom 343 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: breaking with his party. I don't think that's what happened, 344 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: just based on what we've already heard. Clay heard the 345 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: full clip before. I only seen a partial transcript, and 346 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: I didn't hear a break with anything. I heard Gavin 347 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Newsom being unctious, oleaginous Gavin Newsom. I did not hear 348 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: any all of a sudden little hint of bravery coming 349 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: from him. So with that said, oh and also I 350 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: would just know we thought today we might be talking 351 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: about a big executive order that would shut down the 352 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: Department of Education effectively, that has been delayed for now. 353 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: We don't know it is being reported, that's not happening today, 354 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: was reported last night. It would happen today. So we're 355 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: on that. We're aware, but for now, that's not going 356 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: to be a new store we're diving into because it 357 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. Okay, back to Newsom, Let's play now 358 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: this clip because Clay, from what I heard, it's funny. 359 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: You heard the whole thing. I've just heard pieces, and 360 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: just from the snippets, I'm going I don't think this guy, 361 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, is changing anything. I think he's playing games here. 362 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: This is the continuation he had our friend Charlie kirk on. 363 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: This is the continuation of that conversation. 364 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: Play you right now should come out and be like, 365 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: you know what, the young man who's about to win 366 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: the state championship in the long jump in female sports, 367 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: that's that that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should 368 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: step out and say no, no, And I appreciate, and 369 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: but like, would you do something like that, would you 370 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: say no men in female sports? 371 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely 372 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 6: agree with you on that. So that's easy to call 373 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 6: out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and 374 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 6: a grace. You know that these poor people are more 375 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 6: likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression and the 376 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 6: way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an 377 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 6: issue that I have a hard time with as well. 378 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 6: So both things I can hold in my hand. How 379 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 6: can we address this issue with the kind of decency 380 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: that I think you know is inherent in you but 381 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 6: not always expressed. 382 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Now that I've heard this, Clay, this is merely a 383 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: tactical retreat back to what it used to be with 384 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: this issue wishes. What's the It's about consideration, It's about 385 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: let's just try to be more courteous to each other. 386 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: So just use the preferred pronoun out of courtesy. Note 387 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: when they could, when they finally got what they wanted 388 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: with the Democrats, it turned into use the preferred wrong 389 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: pronoun or you lose your job. Now they're going back 390 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: to can we just be courteous to each other? That's 391 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: what gat That's the game he's playing now. I want 392 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 393 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 2: I think he tried to create space without it. I'm 394 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: taking a stand yes, And that's why I shared on 395 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: social media earlier today that exact clip we just played, 396 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: and I just said, Gavin Newsom, yes or no? 397 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Should men be able to compete in women's sports? Now? 398 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: It didn't even take him so saying they shouldn't. 399 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: This is from the leaders of the LGBTQ Caucus in California. 400 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: This just dropped, Buck. You left out the IA plus 401 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: plus and I'm I'm literally shaking right now, literally shaking. 402 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: Here's what they said. 403 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: We woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. 404 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: All students deserve the academic and health benefits of sports activity. 405 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: Until Donald Trump began obsessing about it, playing on a 406 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: team consistent with one's gender has not been a problem 407 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: since the standard was passed in twenty thirteen. That is 408 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: the California Legislative LGBTQ Caucus saying they are profoundly sickened 409 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: and frustrated by the cut that we just played for you. Now, Buck, 410 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: the media is actually taking this. I think I can't 411 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: believe I'm saying this. They're a little bit taking Gavin 412 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: Newsom out of context and saying that he basically opposed 413 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: I wish he had trust me, but he didn't. 414 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Really. 415 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: He kind of played both sides. He listened to this 416 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: question that Keem Jefferies just got on Capitol Hill about 417 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: these comments. 418 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: Listen to this, Buck, I. 419 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 7: Want to ask about Kapolonia Governor Kevin Newsom's comments saying 420 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 7: that Democrats were in the wrong proline transgender athletes to 421 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 7: compete in female and girls sports. What is your response 422 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 7: to that after Democrats had opposed the women and girls 423 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 7: in the sports. 424 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 8: I haven't. 425 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 9: Seen his comments. What Democrats opposed was unleashing sexual predators 426 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 9: on girls throughout the United States of America. 427 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: Does he an honest question, honest question? Does he just 428 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: have no idea? What's going on? Like? 429 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: Is he just not a total moron? That's a Keem Jefferies, 430 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: that's the House Minority leader. Let me say this, Buck, 431 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: the question was actually wrong. The sport that the sorry, 432 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: the reporter said that Gavin Newsom said something he did 433 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: not right. 434 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: We just heard the clips he didn't say. But that 435 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: still doesn't explain the answer from Hakimri. What is he 436 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: what is he talking about? I have no idea. I 437 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: have no idea what he's predators with the high school 438 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: sports thing. 439 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: I have no idea what he is even potentially trying 440 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: to say in that answer. But this is how cooked, Buck, 441 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: they are on this issue that they can't even respond. 442 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 2: By the way, let me say this Hakeem Jefferies. I'm 443 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 2: not sure what his athletic background is. Gavin Newsom was 444 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: a college pitcher, he played college sports. Every single man 445 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: in America that played high school or college sports, if 446 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: you played sports after puberty and in high school or college. 447 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: You know what BS. 448 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 2: A grown ass man deciding to identify as a woman is. 449 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: Every single one that King Jeffries knows this. Every black 450 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: dude in America, every white dude in America, every Hispanic 451 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: dude in America, every Asian dude in America, every single 452 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: person who played high school or college sports knows this 453 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: is complete BS. But but woke mind virus buck is 454 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: so powerful for them that they have to stand up 455 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: there and lie and sound as crazy as a Keem 456 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: Jefferies did in order so far to remain in good standing. 457 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Give you another example of this. We had mentioned Bill 458 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: Maher before, who I think is also more making tactical 459 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: retreats than ideological conversions on issues. But he he is, 460 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, he is willing to say, and has been 461 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: before even this election, that some of the stuff that 462 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: his side is doing is just nuts and self defeating. 463 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: He doesn't like the school marm. You're not allowed to 464 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: say this, You're not allowed to say that stuff. He's 465 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: never liked that. The only place, I mean, I think 466 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: you and him cross over all on this play, I 467 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: would largely agree with the two. He's he's pretty solid 468 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: on the First Amendment when it comes to free speech. 469 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: That's about it, right for a long time. I mean, 470 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: but he's been very solid on that issue for a 471 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: long time. But here he is. He's talking to one 472 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: of the pods Save Bros. These were some of the 473 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: young Obama White House speech writers, and they have a 474 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: podcast that at one point had a big following, and 475 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: it's it's gone down a lot from minderstanding but whatever, 476 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: he's talking to him, and this is fascinating. There's a 477 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 1: long study that was done, a ten year long study 478 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: that was done about the outcomes for people that have 479 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: trans surgeries. And Bill maher is up is pointing out 480 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: that this study was intentionally withhell then hidden because the 481 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: guess what, the outcomes are bad. This is not good 482 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: because we're told all the time, if you don't give 483 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: gender firming care, people commit suicide, the worst kind of 484 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: moral blackmail. In reality, the people who go through the 485 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: quote gender firming care formerly known as a sex change operation, 486 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: so we called it. You know, back in the nineties 487 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: and before a sex change operation have terrible long term outcomes, 488 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: and they justify this hiding this guy justifies a play 489 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: clip thirty. 490 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 8: There was a very big story this year. It was 491 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 8: in the front page of the New York Times. A 492 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 8: woman I forget her name, and she had done like 493 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 8: it was a ten year study. Did not release it 494 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 8: on purpose because she said it would weaponize the argument 495 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 8: from the other side. So, in other words, it came 496 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 8: out not the way you wanted the study to come out, 497 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 8: not what you said. It is a mixed bag. 498 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: That's true. 499 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 8: Okay, some people, yes, it's the right thing. But to 500 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 8: take that risk at that age before you note about anything, yes, 501 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 8: sometimes it's pretty obvious. It's a very hard call to make. 502 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 8: And again, this was a very long study, very thorough, 503 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 8: and they wouldn't release it because it came out with 504 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 8: the wrong conclusion. 505 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: Well also, I wish we had some of his response 506 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: to it. But anyway, but the point is that guy, 507 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: then Clay respond to do it, and he doesn't back 508 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: down from this. He's like, yeah, no, no, but you have 509 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: to do that. Sometimes the greater good is served by 510 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 1: hiding the truth from the public on the trans issue. 511 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: Look the data reflects, and I I can't at some 512 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: of these issues Trump has been so smart on because 513 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: they just come down to common sense. No one under 514 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: the age of eighteen should be getting surgery to in 515 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: any way alter their ability to have children one day. 516 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: I say that as a parent. I can't imagine that 517 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: any parent out there who is behaving in a rational 518 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: fashion is looking at their kids and saying, you know what, 519 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: this twelve year old kid needs to make a choice 520 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: that could keep them from ever being able to have 521 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: a baby, or ever being able to be a father. 522 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy town. It actually should. I think 523 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: if you do something with your children voluntarily that keeps 524 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: them from having the ability to have children, you should 525 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: go to prison. As a parent, I don't even think 526 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: that's a difficult call. Let me repeat that, because I 527 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: think almost every parent out there will understand kid under eighteen. 528 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about when you're an adult and you 529 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: get the opportunity to make your own life choices. Sometimes 530 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: nineteen year olds make awful decisions, But we have drawn 531 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 2: the line at your age of majority begins at eighteen, 532 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: right but for anyone under the age of eighteen to 533 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: be permitted, in any facet to have a elective surgery 534 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: that would endanger in any way your ability to ever 535 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: be a father or a mother to me is criminal 536 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: in nature. And the doctor that does it and the 537 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: parent that allows it, because parents have to sign off 538 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: on minority surgeries, you should go to prison. That should 539 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: be a felony. 540 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: I would just point out that this is part of 541 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: why the activists have pushed this so hard, so fast, 542 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: because they create a permanent army of parents who have 543 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: done this and will never want to believe or accept 544 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: that what they've done to their own children was the 545 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: wrong thing to do. Yeah, so for every parent who 546 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: allows their kid to take puberty blockers and all of this, 547 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: you now have somebody who for the next you know, 548 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: forty years, will absolutely go to the mat on. You 549 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: need to be able to transkids. You have to transkids 550 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: because they're never going to accept that what they did 551 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: their own children because of the Democrat left and the 552 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: medical establishment that have been co opted by it pushed 553 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: them in this direction very obviously. And this is why 554 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: when you talk about long term outcomes, Yeah, they're just 555 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: beginning to figure out what the long term outcomes are, 556 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: because this whole thing is so new in nature that 557 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: there have been no long term studies, and so people 558 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: say things like gender affirming care. If you say that, 559 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: you're a drone with no brain, because this is a 560 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: made up term from just the last few years, just 561 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: the last few years. Sex change operation is what it 562 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: was called for decades, and the reason they don't call 563 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: it that anymore is because they want to pretend that 564 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: there's not a change. It's an affirmation of what's already there. 565 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: And this is also why Democrats are so dug in 566 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: on this play, because if they can get you to 567 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: agree to this, they can get you to agree to anything. 568 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: If they can get you to agree to have your 569 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: kids take puberty blockers at age fourteen, you'll do anything 570 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: they tell you. They can force you to do anything. 571 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: And I yes, you're right, because you're making the parents complicit. 572 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: Which is why, again in my state of Tennessee, I 573 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: think it should be a crime. And I think a 574 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: lot of you out there remember when you were fifteen 575 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 2: or sixteen, you did a lot of dumb things. You 576 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: made a lot of poor choices. You may have grown 577 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: up and had a ton of kids, and you thought 578 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: to yourself when you were fifteen or sixteen that you 579 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: didn't want to do that. As you age, you recognize 580 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: that some of the choices you made when you were 581 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: younger aren't the most advisable or the most desirable. That's 582 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: what parents are for, is to try to protect children 583 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: from making truly life altering decisions. And here they're encouraging it. 584 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: And this is why there's also all kinds of age 585 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: related restrictions out there. We all know there's tons of 586 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: different age related restrictions, you know, alcohol, sexual activity, all. 587 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: Kinds of things. You know, if you're thirteen and you 588 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: said I want to get married, people might be like, 589 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: hold on a second, like you can't do that, Like 590 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 1: that's illegal for a good you know, there are reasons 591 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: why you can't do this. But if you want to 592 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: have your breast removed as a girl because you're you 593 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: think you're actually a boy, you can never change that. 594 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: That's a surgery they can't undo, and with the puberty 595 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: blockers with it, but that you should be able to 596 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: make the decision at thirteen. In fact, the state in 597 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: some places says it should be hidden from parents, hidden 598 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: from parents. 599 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: This is why I always go with the tattoos. My 600 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: wife would murder me if I came home with a 601 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: fourteen year old who got a tattoo. You cannot get 602 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: a tattoo for your minor child in many states, and 603 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: the parent can be prosecuted for doing so, to allow 604 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: a permanent sterilization of your child. It keeps. 605 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: We got to go to a break here, obviously, where 606 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: you get fired off about this topic. I just would 607 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: say it all just keeps. The circle of lies just 608 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: keeps going, because the reason they can't allow it to 609 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: be an eighteen and overthin clay is because then it 610 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: feels like a lifestyle choice. Then it doesn't feel like 611 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: an innate characteristic, and they know that for this to 612 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: be a civil rights issue, it has to be an 613 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: innate characteristic, even though it's completely based in psychology. Anyway. Look, 614 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: there are lots of nonprofits out there you could donate to, 615 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: but there's only one that I know of that is 616 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: saving the lives of tiny babies day in and day out, 617 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: and that's Preborn. 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We're going 654 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: to be joined by Senator Roger Marshall of Kansas at 655 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: the top of the next hour. We'll get his latest 656 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: results and expectations for the big. 657 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: Budget bill that is rolling through Capitol Hill right now. 658 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: We'll also ask him about Gavin Newsom's comments on men 659 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: and women's sports. But as we go to break Buck, 660 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: I just would reiterate this should be I think an 661 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: issue that Republicans should go to the mad on anyone 662 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: who has gender surgery that in any way suggests that 663 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: they could be sterile for the rest of their life. 664 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: That is a crime. 665 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: A parent who does it should be prosecuted, allows it 666 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: to happen, signs off on it. I don't think doctors 667 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: should be allowed to do this surgery anyone under eighteen 668 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 2: years old. I would just remind everyone there was just 669 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: a vote on it in the Senate. All the Democrats 670 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: went against this, including John Fetterman. By the way, Megan 671 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: Kelly didn't let him get away with that one. I 672 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: saw that clip, but also Clay because of their obsession 673 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 2: with this issue and what happened to Elon's son. Elon 674 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: got red pilled, and I think in a sense this 675 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: all ties together with why they're in the situation they're 676 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: in right now with Trump just crushing it.