WEBVTT - #88 - Chris Stapleton 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.800 I welcome to episode eight eight of the Bobby Cast 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.440 and with Chris Stapleton. Good to see you, budd. You know, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:08.959 I didn't know. I was like, I wonder if Chris 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:10.959 is gonna show up with all these people, because when 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.360 you come in to the radio, like everybody, all the 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.959 labels gotta come all check all the managements. Guy, I 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.479 gotta come. And you just came to the house by yourself. Yeah, 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.040 pretty much pretty much you got. Did you have guards 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.160 us at the door waiting? There's six security guards down serious? 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.800 Doesn't mind? Those are mine though, ye, no, just me man, 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:35.120 just me home. I was. You know, I have from 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.080 a Room volume one obviously, and some of up two 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:41.600 have downloaded and streams of them. What was interesting to 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.599 me though, was that you had recorded all this before Traveler, 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.920 like I had all these songs, all the songs. Oh yeah, 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.080 all these songs pre date that or they're in the 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:57.240 same time frame, So there's nothing. There's nothing new, I 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.600 guess technically as as far as songwriting goes, does it 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.320 feel like they're not news they or do they feel 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.640 news since you just recorded that? No, they're new to 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.520 me in a lot of ways because a lot of 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.960 them I have never played live. I've never you know, 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.280 attempted in bands or anything. You know, they're just their 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.120 songs that I love and I've had a round and 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:20.479 so yeah, they're new in that sense, and they're always 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.360 new to people that haven't heard them before. So it 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.520 doesn't matter if they're seventy five years old. Nobody's ever 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.840 heard of them. You know, it's it's it's all relative. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.240 Would you do this again and do the two records 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:37.320 somewhat close together? Maybe maybe not? You know, I sure 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.400 do like it um because it gives you know, it 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.280 gives it's my version of content. My labels always looking 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.560 for content. I was like, well, how am I just 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.520 more music instead of a cute video piece. I'll just 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.680 put out another record. Yeah, that's that's kind of my 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:56.240 version of content. That's funny, it's more music. So and 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.080 we'll come back and back around to the record. I think, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.400 do you realize how kind of mysterious you are too? People? No, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.280 you don't because you are No I am I Yeah, no, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.480 you are, Like I'm telling you, like, either there's this 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.639 this this mysterious think of me because you know, get 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.600 to know you over the past, you know, a couple 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.840 few years. You're not a guy that likes to be 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.480 out talking on every microphone, and I think that makes 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.800 people crave. Oh, like what's he That's not anything that's deliberate, 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.519 that's just that's just how I am, you know what 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:34.400 I'm saying. That's not I mean, interrupt your problem. No, no, no, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.840 you know some people might think that's some kind of 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.880 plan or employe or something. But I you know, I 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.040 like to talk to people that I enjoy talking to 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.120 you and and and I'm okay with that. And I 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:50.200 realized that that, you know, I have, you know, an 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.079 obligation to myself to go talk a little bit, even 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.040 though that's not the most comfortable space for me. I'd 0:02:55.120 --> 0:03:00.840 rather be on stage, you know, playing, But that's you know, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.560 sometimes talking about myself is hard. You know, that's a 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.720 hard thing to do. Like it's a hard thing to 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.960 get used to, like, well, tell me about yourself, you know, 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.440 like everybody, you know, if you've never done that before, 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.560 do you remember the first time somebody ever told you 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.680 to tell tell them about yourself? Like I think I 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.519 had to force my Like seriously, I come from a 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.880 place where nobody wanted to know about me. You know. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.919 So I think I always had to make people go, hey, don't, don't, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.160 don't forget about me. So it was it was different 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.320 from me, like I felt like I had to make 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.040 people to notice me. Okay, maybe I don't know, I don't. 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.040 Everybody's experience is different. But I was just never comfortable, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.520 like I kind of like to do my thing and 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.000 just hang out, you know. I'm okay, it's weird you 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.320 bring that up. I wasn't. I wasn't therapy today. I 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:45.920 don't know if you've ever done it therapy. I wasn't 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.560 therapy today. I was talking to my my therapist. And 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.520 it was until I grew up, and I didn't have 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.960 a dad growing up. He'd left. My mom died of 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.360 a drug overdose in the forties, and so um, she 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.920 was an attic and she was an alcoholic, and so 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.400 I never really had a relationship with either one of them. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.720 Like I literally never had a conversation with a parent 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:11.080 my entire life, like not a single conversation. So it was, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.640 and I was talking today about it, and that's weird. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.960 When you start to kind of dive into these things 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 and you go you try to climb back through these memories, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.440 and it was that I always had to fight for 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.920 attention because I didn't get it because I didn't have 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.719 It's funny you asked that question. I just went to 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.440 this today and that was my thing. I had to 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.720 like crave, fight for attention wherever a school because I 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.920 didn't get it at home. So when you say that, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.560 I just it's oddly. I just had this conversation. I 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.080 paid a hundred forty bucks to have this. I got 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.880 saved a bunch of money, did this. So you're growing 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.800 up living in Kentucky. But what was it like? What 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:52.320 was it? What was it like around the house. Well, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.320 it's very different. You know what I had. I had 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.360 both my parents and both of my parents were very 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:02.000 uh you know, kind of straight U folks. And I 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.520 had great I had a great home life really growing up. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.560 And um, so I was real fortunate in that. And 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:15.760 so I didn't but you know, I'm so sorry. No, No, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.640 I was the hand that I'm just an open book. Yeah, 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.400 and I realized that. And I'm realizing I made a 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.839 comment about drinking earlier, and i'd probably and that's the 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.720 thing for me too. I have to fake drinking so 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.000 people don't go Hey, I don't want to because for me, 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.960 I've never had a drinking alcohol. But it's not because 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.000 I I want to drink like crazy, like I would 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.080 love But I know, Chris, I would drink at all. Yeah, 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.560 well and that you know at this point, I don't 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.279 know how old you're on, but yeah, probably I would 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.120 drink everything. I would just not want to drink. I 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.680 would have all the drinks. Yeah, and so you know, 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.240 all or nothing guy, because I go to it. Yeah, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.719 I'm an addict for anything. Yes, phones, uh, you know, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.520 walking down the street. It doesn't exercise. It's the subway sandwich. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.719 I must have the same sandwich every day for three months, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.320 right if you like it. If I like it, and 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.640 it's the same thing every day, Okay, So yeah, so 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.400 that's why I don't. That's why I don't, you know, 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.159 touch it. It's it's smart. Let me ask you a question, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.440 all right, honestly, you're gonna be honest. Thing. So, I 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.400 I guess I've never had drink alcohol, and I've never 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.440 tried an illegal drug and I have I've never smoked weed. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.520 But like I have my stress, My it's it's so 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.479 hardcore my anxiety, Like like I've been thinking about it. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:31.080 It's it's not legal here, but like these edibles, yeah, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.800 I mean they have things in Colorado and plushes like 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.400 that where uh it's not even like to get you high. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.600 It's just like but what now if we not want 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:43.040 to get high though, Like if I were going to 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.760 probably but you know, if you know, if you're gonna 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.239 have fun, but something but it not tastes good, well, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.240 you know, it's just you know, some of it just 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.840 makes you want to go to sleep and eat a 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.520 big mac, you know, or not necessarily in that order 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.160 or sometimes in that order. You know, it's just you know, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.720 but I think it definitely would have you know, if 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.120 you if you need something to mellow you out, that's 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.320 what I need something to mellow me out. I think 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.400 that that way more than alcohol is. And I'm probably 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.000 you know, getting controversial or something out of here, but 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.960 you know, I've I've met a lot more people who 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.239 are a lot more even on that than than people 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.920 who are you know, Ebjecquelin Hide on alcohol. I think, um, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.960 you know, personally, I think it's a lot safer than alcohol. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.080 I'm not a doctor in here in any way endorsing 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.240 any medical things about it, but I think that, you know, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.040 I think there's enough research around that that it could 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:43.680 help somebody. You know, there's a there's real medicinal purposes 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.600 for even in athletics. These football players are like, hey, listen, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.560 you're putting us on all these prescriptions, but this, you know, 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.240 medicinal marijuana, like you were talking about cutting the pain 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.200 out and it'd be a natural. Listen. And I've never 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.040 tried it, but I'm taking the advocate of it. It's odd. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.960 I've never I've never once touched it, but I'm such 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.080 an advocate. But listen, if it was if it was 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.760 completely legal and then had no or your rule follower, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.720 I'm a bit of rule followers on some levels. But um, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.640 if it was legal, like all of a sudden it 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:16.400 was federally legal and all of a sudden you could 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.160 go down to wherever and get it in a non 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.800 mind offering way to help anxiety, would you take it? Then? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.080 because it'd be if the doctor was like, yeah, sure, 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.239 I had trouble because I got addicted to sleeping pills 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.120 because I don't I don't sleep well anxiety and I 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.160 gotta addicted to sleep pills, and I had to go, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:37.800 and for lack of a better term, I had to 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.120 like clean clean up and just go through with all 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.240 the with draws and got really sick and so horrible. Man, 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.959 I had bad insomni when I was a kid, and 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.600 I had to take sleeping pills, right, didn't have to. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.440 I try to take a sleeping pills. They mess you up. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.640 It was the worst thing ever. I hated it. Did 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.480 you ever wake up and not remember? Like as I 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.520 would wake up and look at my computer and I 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.920 had like FaceTime like five people. And I never drunk 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.199 dial with anybody, but I sleeping pill dial people. Well 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.480 back then they didn't have like Amy. It was yeah 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.800 it's Laura, which is kind of like ambient. I don't 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.280 know enough sleeping pills, but whatever they had me on, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.560 I would sleep like a rock for like twelve hours 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:13.960 and then the other twelve hours I was like a zombie. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.360 That's what That's what sleeping pills did me. And I 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.320 don't like sleeping bills. I don't like pills in general, 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:22.920 you know, but you know they're necessary things sometimes. But 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.000 I was reading this book about sleep. You feel like 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.320 you sleep? Okay, no, no, you don't know. I'm I'm I'm, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.640 I'm I'm not a good sleeper. Most of the time. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.240 I was reading this book about sleep and they talk 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.000 about how it's um like oxygen, Like you can't really 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:39.960 catch up on oxygen and sleep if you don't get 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.400 your sleep, you just miss out on it. Like that's 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.280 the new thing. You can't you know, not sleep for 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.760 a few days and then catch up on on a Saturday. Right, 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.400 you just didn't get enough sleep, and so your brain 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.480 didn't get enough sleep, so it's not going to function 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.719 as well, and long term it could hurt you. And 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.440 so I was just fascinated. And that gives you anxiety 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.400 because you think, yeah, I think not sleeping. I get 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.440 anxiety thinking about the anxiety that I might get. Yeah, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.959 I understand, you get me. I appreciate that. Yeah. No, man, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:11.760 it's a it's a it's a chicken and egg situation 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.800 where you just can't you know, you're getting that cycle. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:18.599 It's it's a bad thing. Do you probably exercise and 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:23.079 BOS try to try to do everything that I can 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.440 do to surround the fact that I don't sleep well. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.920 I exercise a lot, I eat pretty much a plus. Yeah, 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.200 you know, it's the same with prayers even vitamin told Coogan, 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:39.200 all that stuff, all that, all that bottom No, no, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:44.240 that's what you hate it, say second prayers And so 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.760 I do all that and you know, but yeah, to sleep, 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.720 I can all sleep. I can't take sleeping pills. But 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.679 all that is that. Anyway, I was running about try 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.360 like natural, like melatonin, all that doesn't work for me. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.640 Like I cover my body and essential oils like all that. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.760 I've tried melatonin, I tried snort and lavender. Well try 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.679 try to, but I'd take it, take it right in 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:11.000 the bloodstream, take it right. No. So you that's the 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.240 weirdest sentence I've ever heard. You grew up your pants 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:20.559 musical My mom uh is a really um kind of 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.800 pretty kind of Julie Andrews sounded singer, and she was saying, 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.920 you know, cleaning the house. But um, but not neither 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.480 of them in my deck and hold tune. But he 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.080 was more of a radio player, but he liked to 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.160 play a loud So but did they have music to 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:39.320 teach you? I mean, in the skill of it. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.560 nothing nothing to training. My mom could play the piano 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.120 a little bit, and but it was never um had 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.160 a knockle play guitar, and he was showing things when 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.880 I would see him. And you know the cool thing 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.080 about if you're a kid with a guitar. Any musicians 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.920 always willing to show a kid something, you know, if 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.600 they see a kid getting into it, because remember being 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:04.319 a kid and some some guy who knew something showing 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.520 him something. And so anytime you see kids that are musicians, um, 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.760 I think every musician is always willing to help them out. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.439 So that's that's that's the majority of my education came 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.440 from that musically. Did that fascinate you when you were 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.599 a kid seeing the guitar and music? Yeah, you know, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.280 I don't remember being fascinated by but my my mother 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.520 would say that I spent you know, like twelve hours 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.559 a day play playing guitar at one point, and I 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.319 don't remember doing that. I just you know, it was 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.280 time flies when you're having fun. But you were a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.120 really good student. I was. I was better than average students. No, 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.480 not better than average. That you're a valedictorian that farts true, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:49.560 look at this now, sleeping pills and all valedictorian, I'm blent. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.959 Sleeping pills. You can you can downplay it all you want, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.280 but you're a valid So were you the smart kid? 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.240 The kid? I mean, I guess I'm smart enough to 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.440 you know, get good grades and stuff. I can always 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:04.839 tell when you turned into the humble Chris, because you 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.360 don't look me in the eyes whenever you start to 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.000 feel unomfortable. This is the history about it. Like, Chris, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:10.760 I love this song. You know we're talking about songs. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.920 You always you don't like it. I don't like praise either. 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.080 I don't. I feel very uncomfortable and have it again. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:21.520 You don't like praise. You know everybody likes praise to 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.920 some degree. You feel uncomfortable, like when I say, hey, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.400 you were validic to when you were very smart. That 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.319 made But you just got dontent on me that millions 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.320 of people listen to this too. I'm just like, this 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.160 is amazing that people listening to you. That's some millions 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.920 of records. Well, I don't know, but I don't you're 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.040 validic toin and I don't think people would know that 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.319 about you. Well they do now, So did you give 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.719 up and give a speech? You do the whole thing 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.800 where you're like, I'm Christie. Oddly enough, I didn't want to. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.360 I am terrified of public speaking. I don't like I 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.720 don't like colors. You didn't speak at your high school. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.200 I didn't. Let me tell you what I did. I 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.559 wrote a song and play the song. That's such a 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.839 Stableton thing to do. Yeah, straight up, play a song. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.880 That song. I don't remember, but but I wrote a song. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.600 You know, some farewell graduation song. Play the song that 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.240 was it's probably called outlaw validatorian. That was exactly what 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.640 it was called. So that's what you did. You play? 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.600 How many people in your graduating class in high school? 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.160 Like two fifty? Okay, that's so pretty. It was. Okay, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.520 you know, look at this, a validatory in a two 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.000 fifty kids. What do you want to be when you 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.520 were tenth grade? When I was in tenth grade, yeah, 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.800 like when you're just starting. I wanted to play football, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.440 that's all I wanted to do. And you're a pretty athlete. Well, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:33.840 I was okay, yeah, here we go. I was, okay, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:40.640 what position do you play? Um? Linebacker and fullback? Do 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.160 you like to hit mhm? See? I played wide receiver 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:44.880 and then defensive back because I didn't like to hit 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:50.920 m I and you never blessed one time playing defensive back. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.600 He never snuck up. Now listen, I'm gonna tell you 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.280 when I have to I play wiesn't even have to 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.080 crack back on a linebacker. I just go. I would 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.920 drop down and go straight to the hicks. I'm not 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.560 trying to hit any of I was tiny, Like I 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.680 was five. I'm six foot six ft one but one 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.680 seventy Now, back then, I was like five nine but forty. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.920 What were you in high school? Black plan weight, tenth 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.080 grade dead loves great? Yeah, oh I probably you know. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.680 I was the same high I am now, but six 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.800 ft um, you know, two hundred pounds to ten. You're good. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.800 I was okay. You like me in the eyes when 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:31.280 you said he really to see and I love football still. Well, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.520 you know, there was a period in my life where 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.160 I couldn't. I didn't want to watch football because I 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.640 wanted to play so bad, you know, so, but I 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.000 I just you know, I wasn't. I was okay. I 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.200 just you know, you get to a certain level, uh 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.520 in football, and you realized that some of us are 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.280 not like the other people. You know, like you walk 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.400 in the weight room and everybody six seven to seventy 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.720 run into four six forty and you're just like, oh, 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.880 that's not me. Did you feel like you want to 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.280 play college ball? Oh yeah, no, yeah that was and 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:03.920 I thought, and you know, when you're eighteen, you think 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:10.560 you can, you know, and did you try? I went, uh, yeah, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.080 I went on some visits and and I wound up 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:19.520 uh trying to walk on play playing someplace, and and 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.360 it didn't really work out. But it's all right. It's better. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.120 You know, all my buddies that played college ball where 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.080 they played one, double A anything, they all have like 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.360 these weird pains now from where they played college ball. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.520 And I'm so glad that I didn't play. And I'm 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.440 so glad, you know with all the because talking about 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.880 anxiety things, I think I have that thing that all 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.760 the NFL guys get sometimes, the hard horse of the 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.120 c Yeah, like oh if I feel like the press 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.880 or something like that, it's definitely I had concussions. You know, 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.880 I'm almost certain I had concussions when I played football. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.760 But you know, back then, it was like rub some 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.120 dirt on and get back out there. We didn't get water. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.480 It was a prize to get during two days, but 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.920 it was the prize to get water. If they had, 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.800 and now CPS would come and just take all the kids. 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.639 They're not even their kids. All the coaches have just 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.400 put it all in jail. It's a different time. It's 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.760 a different time, and you know, if someone would just 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.320 said no, And you know, I'm all for you know, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.359 stucking it up and playing, but I worry, Um, I 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.240 worry a lot about that sport in general. You know, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.000 I don't think football as is now because I did 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.760 a national sports show for a long time, so I'm 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.000 a huge sports and sports geek. Football doesn't last another 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.560 ten years as it is right now. You can't have 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.000 as many people that violent hitting heads over and over again. 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.080 And we're just not saying we're finally seeing our guys 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.919 be sick. We're finally seeing the Jim McMahon's, even the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.320 Brett Farves like the people that we grew up watching 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.560 start to be and so we're going, Wow, now it's 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.720 a real thing because it's on TV and social media 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:52.840 and so yeah, I'm glad I didn't make it to 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.119 the NFL either, you know what I mean, right, But 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.080 I would have if I could have, you know, because 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.800 I love that sport that much and as violent as 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.600 it is, you know, maybe not knowing what I know now, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:09.119 but um, there's something poetic about it. You know, there's uh, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:12.679 there's poetry and football, but it's not I don't know, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.560 I like it. So you play ball and that was 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.080 kind of were you writing music? And why as you 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.120 were playing football? Were you like that not as much? 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:22.479 You know? I got more into that when I got 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.320 into college and didn't enjoy college as much. So, I 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.360 mean I always played a little bit here and there, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.760 and you know, the different things. But but school. Didn't 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.720 you move to town into Nashville to go to school 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:38.959 here then leave and go back home. So isn't it 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.040 this weird thing that you were such a good student 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:42.480 in high school and you get to college and it's 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:47.800 not for you. Well, you know, college is a different deal, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.400 you know. You and you pick a major or something, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:55.600 and you know I chose uh uh and engineering, um 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.439 major and just because my dad was an engine here 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:00.960 and you know, you don't know what you want to 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.080 be when you're eighteen. I think I think it's really important. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.679 I think it's hard for people to figure out. Uh. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.240 Some people are fortunate to know what they want to 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.960 be when they're twelve. But I wasn't onet of those people, 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:16.120 you know. And but I was fortunate enough to pick 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:21.680 things that I'm just through sheer not wanting to do them. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.240 I figured out I didn't want to do and so 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.320 I took a lot of me trying some different things on. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.840 You know, how does this fit? Is this gonna be 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.639 my life? Now? All right, let's trust something else. And 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.960 I think sometimes it's a scary thing to do for 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.760 a lot of people, but I think it's important to 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.240 do in order to find what you're really supposed to 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.840 be doing. So you go up. How how hard was 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.520 that to go all right, this is not for me, 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:50.639 I'm going back home. Was that tough? Um? Yes? And no, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.760 not really. It was so like obvious that what I 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.439 was trying to do everything all the you know, the 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.359 unise very pay attention to the universal lot, and the 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.320 universe was like, no, this is not your thing. Man, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:05.200 you didn't fill doing it, not at all. See you 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:08.920 moved back home. Then what do you do? Uh? Well, 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.639 I went to college in Kentucky for a couple of years, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.399 and then I didn't really love that either. And you 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.919 study what you didn't study the same thing. Obviously, I 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.159 was in business school for a couple of years. So 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.440 you're gonna be well, we're gonna be what Chris Stapleton, 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.440 I don't know. I was just doing that. You know. Well, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.120 I didn't hate it accounting, but I like the economics. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.840 You know. Um no, you see, but one for me. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:35.080 So I didn't take I was just like, you know, 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.159 this is okay. I just I don't want to I 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.040 don't want to sit in a room and do this 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:41.680 for the rest of my life. I couldn't do it 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.800 like a Sleep Number thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.000 Sleep Number one. Second, so we do the show, and 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.840 it's in the room upstairs in my house, and upstairs 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.800 in my house also in my bedroom, and so in 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.760 my bedroom. I want to tell you there's a Sleep 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.119 Number bed. Now is a great time to visit a 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.840 Sleep Number store where even this week you can say 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:08.119 on the Ultimate Limited Edition bed with sleep i Q 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.400 Technology and Queen Mattresses star at only six. I wish 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.160 you could all just kind of take a little lay 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.879 over in the bed over there. Some of you, uh, 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.600 nine out of ten couples disagree on mattress firmness. I'm 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.240 not part of that because as you hear this just 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.680 me and the dog, and he's good. The Sleep Number 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:26.600 bed let you choose your idea, comfort and support on 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.800 each side, so it's just right for the both of you, 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.560 and there's even adjustment for snoring. I do love Sleep 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.040 Number bed. I haven't had two of them three though, 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:35.920 I don't remember bad, but I love him so much. 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.080 My sleep I score last night was in the I 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:42.080 don't know what it was. My setting is thirty. Sleep 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:44.639 Number beds cost about the same as the traditional mattresses 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:48.520 the last twice as long and cent of owners recommend them. 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.440 And right now go in Monday, say on the ultimate 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.679 limit edition BEDI stores Nation Ony, I call eight hundred 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.199 next bed and tell him that I set you all right. 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:01.640 So you're in Kentucky. You decided again that's not for you, say, 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:06.359 time to move back to Nashville. Well it's not that, uh, 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.680 you know, short that there was some you know, I've 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.959 moved into a house some friends and just worked different jobs. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.040 You know here are there in Kentucky but not in 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.680 my hometown, in a different town. What you do? What 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.680 kind of jobs you do? Oh? I drove you ever see? Uh? 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.400 At the gas stations like the home city ice where 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.240 you get the ice out of the cooler outside. We 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.600 drove to the home city ice truck. We delivered ice 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:34.439 to bice to bad guys. It's miserable to have to ba. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:36.440 I just delivered it, all right, You were one of 0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.840 the higher uppers. Yeah, there are two times did you 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.480 homes the eyes no buys, the bad guys and we 0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:45.040 in different ice companies. We get ice from us, and 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.080 so I back us all day, bad guys all day, 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.680 and we would be like, oh, there's the fancy delivery guy. 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.640 It's like when I did at the time you would 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.399 have been, I'd have been like, oh there's the stable 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.080 and fell and who thinks he's better than us? That? 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.080 And I want to And I was a weeding or 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.040 a golf course maintenance and we all I'd always look 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.160 at the cart guys and be like, they think they're 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.280 better than us because of the car guys. Yeah, so 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.240 you delivered ice delibered ice. You know ever you ever 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.159 been in a parking lot and you've got like a 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.560 coupon for a pizza on your car? Oh yeah, you 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:20.200 put those. I was the dude to put them under 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.840 the winch. Wif no listen, that can't pay a whole lot. 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.199 It was an hourly rate. Yeah, and I just did 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:27.640 it when I didn't have any gigs. And so you're 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.880 playing at this time, you're playing music there, Yeah, i'd play. 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.399 You know, you go play bars, you top forty gigs, 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.439 you know, the four hour shift, but sometimes you need 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:36.879 your money. I happen to live with a guy who 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.160 managed Papa John's at the time. Like, man, Papa John's 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:41.880 not the band, He's not managing the band Papa Johns 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.520 band called Papa Johns. No, but it sounds like in 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:47.480 this town, you know, somebody's always managing somebody. But no, 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.600 he was managing Papa John's band or Papa John the 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:54.320 guy he was managing a Papa John's restaurant. Yes, And 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.200 he'd be like, hey, just go coup on some cars 0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.200 for me, So I'd go work for two or three hours. 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:00.760 Done that would you would take him and just like 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.479 throwing like you got a whole stack up him here, 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.600 and you're like, come on and just like dump them 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.480 off that a little bit. No, no, no, no, that's 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.160 not me. I couldn't do that. That would that would 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:14.960 I would feel so guilty about that? It your buddy too, Yeah, no, no, 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.800 I wouldn't do that to him. What does that pay for? 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.760 Hour to go ahead? And I don't know. It was 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.960 medium wage, you know whatever, like six bucks maybe less 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:25.280 than that. So you're playing it? Are you doing that? 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:29.000 All the cover the cover songs at the bar? Are you? 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.639 Are you playing originals? Manly dis cover stuff? You know, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.359 whatever gig comes up, you know, we go play the 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.080 you know, the Army r TWOC is having a ball. 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.439 We'll go play the four hour Army RRTC gig. Whoever 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:43.880 we can find to be the band at the time, 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.400 you know, I had a couple of group of group 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.760 of buddies and j T who's my bass player, was 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:54.080 in that group, you know of guys um where you know, somebody, Hey, man, 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.120 I got this gig. You know, alright, cool, what is it? 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.280 What we gotta play? All right, let's go. And back 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:04.240 then we were so miserably bad at business. We would 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.720 change our band name every time we had a different gig, 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:08.640 you know, just just to be funny, because we thought 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.520 it was funny, you know, And and and the hindsight, 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.560 that's there's a absolute worst way to build a following 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:18.119 is to change your band name every time but you know, 0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.480 yeah we did lost. You know, it could be a 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.240 some kind of a folk old time gig, or it 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.440 could be a Top forty, you know, playing roller Coaster 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.439 for four hours? Well, dudes, did cach stands? You know, 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.480 it's just whatever whatever was playing when you're playing those 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.640 shows back then, because you're known now for how strong 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:38.920 your voice, that powerful your voice is um by the 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.359 two people that don't know your songwriting, like the people 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.040 that have in the last couple of years, say I 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:46.160 really enjoyed this, Chris Stapleton. You're known for your distinct voice, 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.399 powerful voice even then when you're playing in the VFW 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.720 or wherever you're playing, where people are like, holy crap, 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.199 or did that take time to develop for you? Uh? 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.679 You know, I don't know. I mean a lot of 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:01.840 things that you play when you're in those modes, uh, 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:04.280 you know, the bar band just kind of becomes background noise. 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.720 You know, nobody's in there really trying to dig into 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.160 what the bar bands singing about. Particularly you're saying cover 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.560 teams are just like, oh, he's all right, you know, 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.840 he didn't sound like whoever, whoever did you're covering because 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:17.440 you're not going to you know, you're just gonna be 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.639 a bar band version of that. But if you played 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.359 a bar right now and there are people everywhere, people 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.360 will stop and go, what is that if you put 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.960 on like a like one of those prosthetic faces and 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:35.840 you wouldn't sing people, that wouldn't be background noise. I 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.480 don't know, you know, it would be a good experiment. 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.320 We could, you know, we could, we could make that happen. 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:45.679 I'm sure be like, what's that movie with Travolta? Did 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.800 you watch that movie? Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, you know what, 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.320 if that movie is on, I have to watch it. 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:52.560 I'm not saying it was a bad movie, but it 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.240 was a terrible premise. I don't know how movie you 0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.680 got greenlit. Well I don't either, But we're gonna cut 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.480 each other's faces off and beat each other and then 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.800 fight each other. At the time with those two guys 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:05.399 in and it was nobody was gonna lose. Everybody was 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.760 gonna go watch it face off. Haven't thought about that 0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:11.480 movie since I watched it the first time. What a 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.760 terrible concept. It wasn't a bad movie. No, it wasn't bad. 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:15.479 I think it was. I was on the bus other day, 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.639 that's watch on my mind. I actually didn't watch it. 0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.639 I did, I did. I passed over it. There was 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.359 something else I like better on. I don't know. On 0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.960 your bus you have direct TV in the bush? Yeah, okay, 0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.680 commuted to I have direct TV and maybe I don't 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.480 know if if the buzzard just suck, but whenever the 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.840 buzs is moving, I can't keep that thing on solid. 0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.120 It's not even the Chris table does. We can't get 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.800 direct TV to stay on as the bus is moving. Listen, man, 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.240 when when a door opens on my bus, my TV 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:49.640 shuts off. So don't If you can get to get 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.520 just the TV to stay on when your doors open 0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.320 and close, you're doing better than me. What do you do? Okay, 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.520 I'll be out it because you know, I have eight jobs, 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.840 right like I'm writting books and I'm just trying to survive. Right. 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.600 But when I'm out on the road, like I was 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.840 out where all this weekend, I got so bored. I 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.640 get bored because you just got to find phil space 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.240 up because in the daytime you get us sound check. 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.560 You got like four hours. But again you have you 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.800 know what what what naptime? I tried taking nap and 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.280 I do take a nap sometimes and I even got 0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.919 a but I even have my dog is six, so 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:26.199 I think my dog got on the road with me, 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.800 and so I put a I have the starbus knocked 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.720 on a diva right now. Not usually usually with swall 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.359 bunks were all the same. But now it's a starbus. 0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.920 I need my dog on the dog on the road 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.080 next thing, you know. Yeah, I'm just saying I'm Beyonce, 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.360 right yeah, yeah, So I tried that. I tried the 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.640 nap thing bed. I can hurt him my back. I'm 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.760 very sensitive. I'm like that lily. I'm like a little lily. 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.920 The beds aren't great on buses. The box are better. 0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.920 I prefer you know, you're sleeping a buck. I know 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.040 obvious sleep in a bed because me and my wife 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.680 haven't have a bed. But you know, there's no version 0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:00.320 of a bed on a bus that's a to lead 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.520 big enough for two people to sleep in. But we 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:07.320 do it, I think at a principle. But uh, it's uh, 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.920 it's interesting, you know. And and the roads on in 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.000 the United States are really bad right now. They all 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.160 need work. I don't know how where you've been going 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.880 through lately, but everywhere that needs work. Yeah, I've been 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:23.280 to all those places you're mentioning right now. You from Arkansas. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.320 Arkansas is one the worst man one of the world. 0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:29.040 And you can tell the difference across Tennessee, Tennessee and Arkansas, 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.320 like immediately when you crossed, it's like, yeah, we were there. 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.720 This is the past. I think this past weekend. Yeah, 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.440 so it was, it's fresh on my mind. Is the 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.600 one that has potholes. New York City is pretty bad 0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.120 when you roll up in through their New York in general, 0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.000 because I love you. Remember my state is the bad 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.320 road state. Like I got an there, I got cousins there. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.480 It's all good. I'm not picking on just your state. 0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:56.080 Apology people, Listen, you're from Kentucky. Listen. We should start 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.840 a go fund Me page for the Arkansas Highways. I 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:04.400 think we've tried. I don't think. I don't think that works. So, yeah, 0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.880 they would like to look at the pictures of the shows. 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.880 It's been so crazy to watch the growth it's been. 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.840 There's been two artists that I've seen grow, like like 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.480 I've watched this grow, this part of you, this this 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.680 uh chapter of Chris Stapleton, You and Sam and you're 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:30.240 not the same. But it's like nobody kind of came 0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:37.800 out of nowhere, completely organic, and it's been boom songwriting first, 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.760 like paying dudes writing songs for for people, Like that's why, Like, 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:43.480 is that why you moved? You moved down to write songs? 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:46.280 Sound a songwriter? I thought that was that sounded like 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:48.360 the greatest job I've ever heard of, the intent I 0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.560 heard of even though singing like you did, you want 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.400 to like, I can go be an artist that Let's 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.360 be honest. You know, sitting in the room playing a 0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.320 guitar for maybe three hours a day and getting paid 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:59.600 to do that is probably still the greatest job in 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.960 the world. Would you rather sit in the room and 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.720 write a great song with one of your song everybodies 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.200 or play on stage for fifteen thousand people. I like 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.680 to play, so that that's hard to say. But I 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.480 like to write a good song too. But you know, 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.600 at this point, I probably have to pick playing because 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:20.000 I like playing. I like playing a whole lot. Do 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.440 you ever get to where I'm getting kind of tired 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:22.760 of playing? I just kind of want to write songs 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.360 for a few months? No, No, I mean, certainly, if 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.120 you're if you're not feeling if you're sick. You know, 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.800 there's times I'm sure you get out there, not sleeping 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.440 and working nine days a week where you're just like him. 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.320 You know. I wish I could just you know, chill 0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.240 out just a minit, But the fear will keep you going. 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.480 The fear that's why I fear. I'm terrified that I 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.640 feel like and I don't know if you feel this way, 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.200 because I'm obviously nuts, but I feel like I've been 0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.240 committing crimes for a long time and eventually the cops 0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.000 are gonna catch me, and when they do, my career 0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:00.959 is over because they're gonna they they've got me, or 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.160 everyone's gonna figure out that I'm not even some imposter syndrome. 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.760 You feel like, absolutely, I think I think a lot 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:08.320 of people feel that. Not only a lot of people 0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.120 will verbalize it, you know, but I had somebody that 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.440 uh and I won't say his name, but uh, you 0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.640 know it was a hero of mine. You have that 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.440 very thing. He's like, I'm just waiting for everybody to 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.920 figure you know, figured out, And I'm just like, I 0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.040 was just like, even you feel that way, I was like, okay, 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.000 all right, do you feel that way, Oh sure everybody, 0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.160 you know, it was some degree nobody you know. But 0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:30.600 then you know the flip side, like when I used 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:34.280 to say to people when even walking to meet somebody, 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:35.840 how you do it man, and be like, oh, I'm 0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:37.440 far better than I deserved. I used to say that 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:43.280 the people. And then I had I met somebody and 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.040 then they were walking up on the bus and there 0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.480 was another artist and he said, uh, he said, well 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.920 me too. But you know, maybe we all deserved great things. 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:53.040 And it really made me. It took me back for 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.960 a minute, and I was just like, wow, that's uh okay, 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.520 maybe we do. And maybe that makes it okay, you know, 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.000 like maybe they can make the fear go away a 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.840 little bit if you if you just think that we 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.600 all probably deserve great things. You know, not all of 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.680 us get it, but I think everybody certainly deserves it. 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.200 Do you get in your own head a lot? Do 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:17.040 you feel like, um, I can in a moment, and yeah, 0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.120 I get in my own head quite a bit. It's 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.280 probably why I don't talk that much. What's your fear 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.000 of getting in your own head of talking? Uh? Like, 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:29.920 what what? What's the worst that can happen in your mind, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.560 what do you say? You know, I don't want to 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.760 get in my own head, so that's why I don't. 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.360 I might get in my own head on on stage 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.280 sometimes that's the worst place for it to happen to me, 0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:43.560 you know, like, um, maybe I don't like out something 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.760 sound in, or uh, I don't like the way guitar 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.800 fields at the moment, you know, or it's you know, 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.560 any little thing that can happen, you know, is the 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.920 danger for me to go completely off the edge and 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.480 just like not be able to dig myself out of 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.560 that moment. It's bad when I go down, but I 0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:05.760 try to avoid it. Will you go down like that? 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.759 Because I'll go down like that, absolutely, and they can 0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:12.239 ruin my whole day and everybody else's whole day. So 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.360 I try to be conscious of it and not do 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.200 it for me. My co host Amy can you can 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.320 notice that, and she's the one that goes boom and 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.200 she'll try to pull me out of it. Is that 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.480 what Morgan does for you? Absolutely? Absolutely, because she can 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:27.759 see it sometimes or she can see it happening when 0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:32.480 maybe you can't, or you're just starting. Absolutely, Yeah, the 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.960 same thing, just loo very slow because part of the 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:39.080 creative part of you needs to be in that space. Well, yeah, 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:40.719 you gotta be on the edge, you just can't fall 0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:42.839 off of it. Do you feel like sometimes you don't 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.840 want to fix yourself because you'll lose your edge. Do 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:49.759 you ever have that thought? Um, I'm not till now. 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.480 Never mind scotch that because that's something I would be. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:57.719 I like, I don't know if I should get better, 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.759 can I lose it? No? You know I used to 0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:05.320 think those kind of things. Um, but I always feel 0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.080 like there's room for improvement and if something's making your 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.839 your overall health or life better, it's not necessarily that's 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:19.520 not losing your edge, you know. I feel like those things. Um, 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.000 it's not losing edge. It's just it's making making you sharper. 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.200 You finish the show, you come off stage, what's the 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.120 what's the first thing you do? Finish the show? I 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.239 thank all the local crew guys for the work, and 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.520 a lot of times my wife is retired for the 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.160 evening before the arcle is over, so I'll go find 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.359 out where she is if she needs anything, and then 0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.520 I'll probably why not hang with the band guys for 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:51.279 a few minutes in the dressing room. And then hit 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.160 the bus and I'll be up till two or three 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:58.399 in the morning watching Face Off for the eight time 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.000 for the eightieth time. Do you go back and listen 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:03.680 to shows like your live shows and then criticized or 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.279 or love on yourself? No? Not, No, I try not to. 0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.360 I mean, we do record now, and we have a 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:14.480 pretty elaborate recording rig. We basically, uh, you know, I'm 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:15.880 gonna have as much of that kind of stuff as 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.000 we can have out there for cataloging, and we're trying 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:23.640 to put together some live things. But it's a real uh, well, 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:27.400 that microscope is tough, you know, on live shows, you know, 0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:31.799 because there's so much other external things going on. You 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.000 know that sometimes you can be too hard on yourself. 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.239 So you have to really listen to it in the 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.120 with a different set of ears, and maybe you would 0:36:40.239 --> 0:36:43.360 listen to something you're really picking up on the studio. 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:46.799 Will you look at a crowd, and when you look 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:48.879 at the crowd, will you focus on the people are 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:50.720 having a great time or you see the one that's 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:55.239 Like anybody that spending my show knows that I don't 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.520 look at the crowd a whole lot, because that a 0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.399 little bit can break focus for me, Like I'll look 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.200 at the crowd when I'm not playing and I'll try 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:10.319 to interact with them in that way. But if I 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.160 do look out there and I see somebody not having 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.399 a good time, it can do that thing. And we're 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.000 talking about or if I see somebody having too good 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:20.920 at a time, it will make me smile. It'll may 0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.520 be too happy and I forget what I'm doing. So 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.799 I'm I'm very a d D that way. So I 0:37:25.800 --> 0:37:29.719 have to be real careful about, you know, eye contact. 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.560 I do a very controlled version of it for myself, 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.920 just to try to make sure I don't lose focus 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.680 of what I'm doing in the circle of everybody in 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.479 the band. You know. Yeah, I didn't know that because 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.560 I do. I don't seen you play a bunch and 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.960 you do kind of keep down a bet when you play. Yeah, 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.560 I'm I'm I'm here, like somebody can see me over 0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.279 the radio or whatever. This isn't but I'm I'm very 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.239 much in the guitar and I'm in I'm singing, and 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.839 I'm in with the rest of the band. That's where 0:37:57.000 --> 0:38:00.719 that's where the stuff's happening. And when it's not going on, 0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.840 then the interaction happens a little bit more in the crowd. 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:07.160 Maybe if I take a solo, I'll step out front 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.680 just for a minute and we can give a little 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.120 plant here in there. But for the most part, I 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:16.520 try to keep there's just like a little circle happening 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.359 on stage no matter where we're playing that I'm trying 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.480 to stay in that circle. That circle. Who is important 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:26.719 to you? People in that circle? Absolutely, they're the same 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.120 people on the record. Absolutely, Why are they so important 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:33.760 to you? None of we wouldn't be sitting here talking 0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:35.880 if it wasn't for the people in that circle. You know, 0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.279 none of none of this would be what it is, 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:43.879 and none of it would be happening at all if 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:49.560 it weren't for the people in the sort you really 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:57.279 care about him? Absolutely, man, Just looking at your as 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:02.120 I can tell you, I feel like with me, I'm 0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:04.560 as good as the people around me are. Like I try, 0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.880 I surround us the field make me better, right, And 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.759 that's that's one of the best things you can do 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.799 if you want to be better, surround yourself with the 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.280 best people you can find and whatever. And that extends 0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.080 into you know, when we're on a room with a 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:21.600 pretty what I would consider a good sized crew and 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:25.400 everybody in that crew is that for us. And I 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:30.120 think that's the key to putting on a successful tour 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.799 is is you get the absolute best people to work 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.960 with you can find at all times. And uh, that's 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.600 four on stage. But the four on stage, Yeah, that's 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.600 you mean, that's that's that's the fist for you. That's 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.120 your fist. Yeah, it's the type like right there, those four. 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:50.239 I mean, it sounds like ten, but it's it's you four. Yeah, No, 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.359 that's that's the you know. And then you know, Dave 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:54.960 Cobs in there and when he wants to be in there, 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.839 and uh, you know, make your fails in there when 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.799 he has meant to be in there, and they've got 0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.640 wherever he wants to be whenever he wants to be 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.839 like that dude. But typically the day watched the show 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.280 for things that are really easy travel or very high profile, 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.320 those are those are days too. He'll he'll tell you 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.080 as much he likes, you know, those the best days 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:12.799 to go to. You know, this is the easiest things 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:15.759 to go to. 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For don't even tell him using blue 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:18.560 apron like to them be like, oh, it's been all days. 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.279 So they even over this dove blue apron dot com 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.279 slash Bobby cast. There you go, blue apron a better 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.759 way to cook? All right? So all right, let's let's 0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:31.360 switch it up a bit. Uh you you play it 0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.200 for Tom Petty, You got to play it regally with 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:40.400 Tom Petty. I don't know anyone who loves music, you know, 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.160 just genre lest music that didn't love Tom Petty. If 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:46.000 you don't love Tom Petty, I don't know what's the 0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:50.080 matter with you? Like to go seek some kind of help. 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:55.719 It's you know, if you can't find something in some 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.000 of Tom Petty's music that you like, I'm worried about 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.760 you a little bit. When you're you're playing before Tom 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.319 with Tom, did you take a second and like take 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.719 it in when you want on stage? Absolutely? Well, First 0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.000 of all, we're wrigley Field. The first first show we 0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:14.000 played with him was at wrigley Field, and so that 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.600 alone would be enough to be like, hey, we're playing 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.080 at wrigley Field. But then you add to the fact 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.360 that we're there with Tom Petty and the heart Wreckers, 0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:27.880 it's you know. That's you know, if you told seventeen 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.879 year old me that that was going down, my head 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:35.680 would blow up. And and it still felt that way 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.160 a whole lot. You know, seventeen year old me showed 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:42.680 up that day, it was like yeah, I was just like, yeah, 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:47.800 Wrigley Field with Tom Patty sounds great. You still get excited? 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:54.200 Oh yeah, yeah. Every night it's a new thing, you know, 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.360 because you know, we don't run tracks, we don't do 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.759 any that kind of stuff. So every night anything can happen, 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.799 which is crazy because again it's for the most part, 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.760 it's four people on stage, yes, and you don't want tracks, 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:09.040 That's what I'm saying. It sounds like ten people out there. Well, 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.160 we're just playing and you and you're playing the lead 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:20.840 and you're singing. I watch it and I'm just like, okay, 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.480 are you are you harsh on? Let's say you're doing 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.319 a solo, will you pick apart? We're like, oh man, 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.919 I really I really screwed that up. Well, I'm gonna 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:30.839 screw this is this is one thing out of the way. 0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:33.200 I'm gonna screw up a solo at some point in 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.600 a show, and probably two or three solos in the show, 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.600 but hey, it's that way, you know, it's live, and 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.000 I've I've learned to just laughing off a little bit, 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:47.799 you know, and then and then see if I can 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:53.239 find my way back home, you know. So it's um. 0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.240 Soloing is a very new thing to me. Really. Um. 0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.759 It's really only something I've started doing, um pretty much 0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.120 before the Travel record, because I had two guys in 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.719 the band quit and it got down to me and 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.879 j T and Derek and we had, uh, we had 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:10.279 three gigs that weekend. I was like, hey, do you 0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.319 think we can cover this? And they're like, I don't 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.160 know that you have bass playing a drummer, you really 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.160 don't have many options except to had. It was out 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:21.799 of necessity that that I started doing, and I was like, well, 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.759 maybe I uncover it, maybe I'll figure something out, and 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.080 then you know, from there, I've I've learned to forgive 0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:31.120 myself my shortcomings as a guitar player and and just 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.480 you know, enjoy it because I do enjoy playing guitar. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.040 I really do, as probably as much as I enjoy 0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:43.000 was saying I enjoy it, so um, you know, maybe 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.200 someday I'll wake up and be a real boy. You know, 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:50.160 like be a real guitar player. You know, whenever you 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:51.879 hurt yourself, you just didn't want to sing. You don't 0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.880 anybody to come in. Was that a like when you 0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.200 hurt your hand, you didn't want to not be able 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.920 to do both. Well, So much of our show is 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.440 is like I said, we don't run tracks. There's not 0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.160 a road map necessarily for what we do. A lot 0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:11.000 of it is very much something we've developed over time 0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.520 of I'm gonna do this here, and you know, like 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.560 Derek Field, things coming when I'm playing that he can catch. 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:19.960 And so much of our show is that if I 0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.800 can't play, we can't do the show because nobody coming 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:28.920 in is gonna have that um you know understanding of 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.920 the musicianship within the circle of its just not gonna work. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.080 There's gonna be something different. And I feel like that's 0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.920 selling a little short. I don't like that when you 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.680 had to cancel the shows, that suck for you that 0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.920 that yeah, well it sucked worse for the people that 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:48.279 had tickets and plans that did. For me, you know, 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.640 I had to deal with you know, it's still a 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:56.000 little aggravating to deal with, but you know, I felt 0:45:56.040 --> 0:46:00.040 worse about the people that I was in conveniencing the 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:03.239 than Yeah, anything I was having to go through, So 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.920 it'd be fine, what's up with these You're gonna play 0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.280 the Eagles. That's that's pretty freaking cool. That is cool. 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:14.239 I'll say that, be proud of Its pretty freaking cool. Yeah. Man, 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:19.759 it's what's the Eagles with Vince Gill. So it's just like, yeah, 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.879 you know, I I was trying to talk to somebody 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:28.719 the other day. You know, I paid, I saved up 0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.319 my money and when the healths Over tour was out, 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.600 and I bought me a ticket, my brother a ticket, 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.279 and we were fourth throw up in Charleston, West Virginia, 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.920 and they played for four hours, and to this day 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:43.920 it's one of the greatest shows I've been to pay 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.080 for four hours. They played for four hours, They played 0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:48.920 us the Eagles for like two hours, and then the 0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.319 Eagles became the house band, so to speak, and they 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:56.960 played everybody's solo stuff anything you can think of. Yeah, 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.440 that was solo stuff, so that you got the Eagles 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:01.719 and allers all this stuff. Did you watch the documentary 0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.920 on CNN that like the Eagles multi part document you 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:06.840 ever see? That's the first of all, it's like a 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.840 hundred hours and way better than Face Off. So it 0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:12.640 covers like is it on direct TV on the bus 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.919 and it's probably not on direct TV? Okay, well that's 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:17.719 on my only entertainment. I don't have TV at home. 0:47:19.400 --> 0:47:21.440 What are you? What are you watching? What are you 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.879 more than watch anything fun? But I'm a huge Game 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.440 of Thrones fan. I love Game of Thrones. If I 0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:31.560 have a show, it's that and Walking Down up to 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:33.520 the point I'm not caught off from Walking Dead yet, 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.759 but those are those are the two shows that I 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.400 have that are TV shows with I watched Game with Hero. 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.239 I watched both of those shows religiously with the Game 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.960 of Thrones, like can they let me ask you too, 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:45.920 QUI are you caught up? I'm caught off on Game 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.880 of Thrones so we can talk about whatever. So I 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.359 want if you're not caught up, if you're not turning 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:54.360 turn this off for it just for a second. They're related, right, 0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.920 I think? So? No? There were? Yeah? Yeah, it's like 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.440 Aunt Knuckle, there's and nephews. How do you feel about that? 0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.279 Like do you hope they get to stay together even 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:08.800 though there's like this, How do you feel about that? 0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:10.719 How do I feel about Yeah? Do you? Because I 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:11.879 felt like I want them to get to I don't 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.319 care if they're related like that. Well, but I don't 0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.399 care like a day you know, they're the same back 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:25.760 then Jerry Lewis will do it? Holy go it would 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:30.640 Uh what are we even talking about? Um? Yeah, well, 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.440 you know that's a complicated question because they've set up 0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:36.279 a lot of this show not telling you that, and 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:37.680 you want them to get together. They want you to 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.040 want to get them together, and then they want you 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.239 to feel weird about it because then they give you 0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.280 more information and so that's but that's kind of that show. 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:49.399 I mean there, but they would kill somebody? Yeah, oh man, 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.600 like the Red Wedding. Do you even in the first season? 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.000 Oh yeah, they killed I was like, has it? I 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.399 thought the show was about him? I thought me too. 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.040 I'm still pissed. Yeah. And it wasn't even the it 0:49:01.080 --> 0:49:03.879 wasn't even the finale of the first season, right, And 0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:06.120 I was like, what just happened? I kept waiting for 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.960 someone to come in and say these heads on the 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.359 chopping block and yeah, when his head was chopped off, 0:49:12.719 --> 0:49:16.480 I think, like my TV, my my, my charity is 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.279 kind of popped up, like I don't trust TV anymore? Right, 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.319 that was it? The trust was gone at that point. 0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.600 Would you like, what is this show actually about? And 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.839 I still kind of don't know. I don't wonder if 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.920 the if the frozen Dragon, you know, and you know, 0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:30.879 there's a whole thing with the frozen dragons and fight 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.239 the the other lesson I'm again with on the nerd. 0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:35.560 We could do a whole hour on on Game of Thrones. 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:38.239 Now we're not going to there, but we could have. 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.400 I could go down the whole rabbit hole with you. 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:44.520 Where are you walking dead? Walking dead? Oh? I don't 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:49.520 really know. I'm a couple of three episodes into the 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.560 current Okay, so you're pretty close. Then, yeah, I know 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.239 they killed Glenn and then and then maybe may have 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.120 lost me just just this much, you know, just a 0:49:57.200 --> 0:50:00.760 little bit when when Glenn got this, don't you feel 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.120 like they have to Sometimes they'll kill the people that 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:05.440 you really like and don't expect what keeps you on 0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:08.319 your toes. But not I know, Glum's awesome because from 0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.520 the beginning, Glen say Rick from inside the freaking tank, 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:14.960 you know, in Atlanta, back right back in the day. Yeah, 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.800 there's like there's apocalypse type shows like I'm fascinated. Do 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:22.960 you think you would survive? Probably not, uh, you know, 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:30.480 just because I don't do enough cardio, so you think 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.880 your physical limitations would If you know, if I had 0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.200 to run from zombies, you know, because zombie don't get tired. 0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.640 I just need to do more cardio, I would love it, 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:41.480 Like I would love during my life for the world 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.600 to end like that, Like that would be cool for me? 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:45.920 Are you serious? Well? Just think this world has been 0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.000 around for millions of years, right, and if in our 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.040 blink of the time that we're here, we experience the 0:50:53.760 --> 0:50:56.880 end of the zombie apocalypse, whatever it is. If we 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.120 get to experience that, you're not cool, that would be no. 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.080 Because I got kid is man? That that's not that 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.040 I don't. You have kids, you would be You would 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:07.760 never ever say the words you're saying right now, probably 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.960 a fair statement because I don't have kids, but you 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.840 got to. You got twents comment, right, you do. I 0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.640 don't even know. I don't even know what that is. 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.200 I don't either, So we'll find out. I'll let you know. 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:26.600 How's Morgan. She's pregnant? She good? Is she able to 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:30.440 sing the same Oh yeah, no, yeah, she's great and 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:32.919 you know she gets tired just but that's that's part 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.759 of it. She's got twenty fingers and twenty toes in 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:40.240 they're moving around, that's right. Yeah. I don't even especially 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:41.840 when you put it numerically like that, it's like just 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.000 twenty fingers and twenty toes. I don't even know. Let 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.600 me play some music here, how about it. I guess 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:52.919 some of this not made trying to tangle my mind. 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:59.719 Come about this song we want to know about? I 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:01.960 guess I kind of want to know, like because I 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.080 hear your songs and I insert my thoughts into your music, 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.520 which I think is what music is about. Like absolutely, 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:10.439 I was talking about that a different interview. How that's 0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.920 I think that's a purpose of songs. Well, then for 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:15.560 you to excuse for you, the listener, to insert yourself 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.279 into it. Did someone say that to you? Or did 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.080 you say that to them? Because I said that to them? 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:20.960 Because then I don't feel stupid because if I'm if 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:22.799 I'm saying something someone else said, I'm just no no 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:27.080 no no no, So we're saying cool. So that's why 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.279 I felt like I feel like songs. We all have 0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:31.759 our own identity with these songs. Absolutely they exist. You 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.399 write it for your reason, but I'm able to sign 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:37.799 my identity to whatever you wrote. So I've always think 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.840 just to know what your identity is when you're writing 0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:44.000 this song. I don't know that I have an identity 0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:46.040 when I'm writing a song other than I'm trying to 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.319 write a song. But I think it's good and then 0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:54.160 the the identity part of it preachs into it on 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:58.439 ex you know what I'm saying. Does that make sense? 0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.160 And I'm making just an all like yeah, Like I 0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:05.399 don't consciously give a song and identity, but because I'm 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.200 writing the song, whatever part of me is in that 0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.919 song is gonna be there because I wrote the song. 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:19.799 Is that am I talking? In certain your identity comes 0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:23.879 out and as it's completed, there you are, but you're 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.680 not actually building it in any certain ways. Right. I 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.719 don't sit down and go I'm gonna put myself into 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:35.080 this song necessarily, you know, but but it's there whether 0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:36.880 you like it or not. That's the other part. But 0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:40.479 it took me a long time to realize is when 0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:45.840 you write songs, um, you can think you're writing the 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.200 most fake song ever. But some part of you is 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:53.320 gonna slip in there that somebody's gonna go, that was 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.239 you right there. I had I heard that. That was 0:53:55.280 --> 0:53:57.560 when such and such was going on, you were writing. 0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.000 I know why you wrote that song. You know, even 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.520 if you don't know why you wrote that song. So 0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:05.600 I'll plead ignorance on a lot of it. You know 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.000 my my favor I told you my favorite. I have 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:09.920 to a record, Like if I really love a record, 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.719 I'll give it a hundred listens a record, and I 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.399 listened to Volume one a hundred times because it keeps 0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:18.360 a counting. This song here, I'll tell you this is 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.319 my This is my favorite song I think that you've 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:25.120 ever put out. This is my favorite song that record. 0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.920 I will listen to this song over and over again, 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:31.840 like you just I'm gonna tell you what how it 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:33.160 makes me feel. Then you tell me how it makes 0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:34.960 you feel, because I don't want to. I don't want 0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:36.239 to hear what you say. And then did change with me. 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.439 Let me tell you, like when I hear this song, 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:42.759 it sounds like like I hear like Zeppelin, like I 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:49.160 hear like the The like old that background. That's what 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:53.080 I hear here like old Zeppelin types of the guitar volume. 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:56.640 It's up, it's higher than your voice at a time, 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.200 and I love how loud the guitar is to the 0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:02.760 juxtaposition to your voice. And I think that was on purpose. 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:04.600 I don't know the boys on purpose and I but 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:06.520 I think you're sending a message with the with the 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.120 guitar of the tone and how loud the guitar is. 0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.480 And I hear death throw, I can't look up and 0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:17.400 up and he's like a place in life when you're like, 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:18.920 it's not really done. I don't want to hear death 0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:23.840 throw their actual prison. Now it's literal to me, but 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.160 it's like, what's my death throw? Like where am I 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.520 in my life? Like where I'm in my death throw? 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:33.160 I don't want to minimize anybody's experience on death row 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:37.680 by standing it's any of us have anything experience like that, 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.960 but um, but yeah, certainly we were trying to you know. 0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.160 I wrote this song with Mike Kenderson, who I wrote 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:48.360 a lot of songs with and he's a great blues 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:52.080 player and this was originally written and more of a 0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:57.239 blues kind of Robert Johnson style, and that he does 0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:00.120 he does a lot of great fingerstop blue stuff. I 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.799 can't really do all that stuff. But we were having 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:07.200 a day in the studio with this particular song where 0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:12.480 we had gotten nothing all day long. We try things, nothing, 0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:19.520 we try something else that's not it track, something that didn't. 0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:22.720 We didn't get it, and so it's this is fairly 0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:26.200 late in the evening and we were all just kind 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:32.680 of whipped and Dave started playing what is the kind 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:37.680 of opening acoustic look? And it became what all this 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:41.040 kind of built around? And I took that song that 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.840 I've written with Henderson and sang on top of this, 0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.799 and we were very much trying to live in the 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:51.480 Led Zeppelin kind of area, you know, because we all 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:56.319 love that stuff. And I just like it because to me, 0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:02.040 when I hear things like this, it makes me feel, um, 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.759 hopefully it feels badass, you know, like I'm looking for 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:06.840 something to feel badass. I like songs that make me 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:11.200 feel that way. Um. I'm not saying this in particularly, 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.359 I'm just saying songs like you here, back in Black, 0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:17.720 that Back in Black will make you feel a certain 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.840 way every time. Oh No, it makes me want to 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:22.160 fight and I get right and I'll get and I 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:23.840 don't know yet, and I still want to fight every time, 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:25.160 and I'll get me up every time. That's that's the 0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.840 way it makes me feel. But not in a way 0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:29.480 that you're gonna actually walk on the door and getting five, 0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:32.880 but you're like, all right, I'm ready, and things that 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:35.840 can get some kind of emotional response out of you 0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:40.400 like that. Musically, man, that's that's what it's for. That's 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:46.120 my favorite song. Yeah, thank you. I hear that, and 0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:50.200 I go, what's my death throw? Where I'm out in 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.320 my life and I gotta get off the death row? 0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:54.840 Any what you're writing about? That's what I feel that 0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.919 that's my interpretation. Start telling people that telling me wrote 0:57:57.920 --> 0:57:59.280 that about me and my death. I wrote that song 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:03.400 about Bobby, but go on the record, I wrote that 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.800 song about Bobby Bones and his personal, definite personal death brow. 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:11.640 So if you stopped writing music right now, could you 0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.440 too pop this thing and you just have music come 0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:17.120 out for the next ten years? Yeah, like, because music 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.680 still coming out if you if you stop, I don't 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:21.800 have things recorded. But no no, But if you stop 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.440 writing right now, I can stop, right Would you feel 0:58:25.440 --> 0:58:27.480 comfortable that you have enough quality material that for the 0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.200 next five years you can put out records. That's probably 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:34.120 only two records. So yeah, okay, what if you did 0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:35.720 two records of a year like you did this year? 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:39.600 Maybe do you have a song you're sitting on right 0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:41.320 now that you're just like, man, I can't wait to 0:58:41.320 --> 0:58:45.120 cut this one next time? Yoh yeah, there's there's several 0:58:45.160 --> 0:58:47.600 like that. Yeah, did you have to decide when you 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.880 cut these two? Was it tough to not put songs 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.360 on because you love them so much? No, it's never tough, 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:55.560 because it's all you always, whatever moment you're in, it's 0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.440 you're like, this is the time to do this right now, 0:58:58.480 --> 0:59:01.920 I feel like doing this one. You know. It's never 0:59:01.960 --> 0:59:04.880 tough to me in the moment. You know, if I 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:06.040 have to sit down and make a list and do 0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:07.280 all that kind of stuff, I can't do that. My 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:10.320 wife is great at that. But in a moment in 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.320 a day, like what do I feel like playing right now? 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.200 That's never hard, you know. For me, it's just like, oh, yeah, 0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:19.400 I'm feeling like this, let's just let's just play this. Well, 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.960 it's set, let's change now to show it based on 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:24.760 how you're feeling. Since you're not you's intraction pretty much 0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:27.280 do whatever you want. So you'd be like, you know what, 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:34.680 LD crazy? Yeah, so will you write up a new 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:38.520 set list every night? I do write a new setings 0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:41.120 every night, and you know, sometimes they very very little 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:42.920 if we feel like we're into crew. But sometimes if 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.840 you feel like you're getting stagnant in the show, like 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:53.600 I don't ever want us to feel too comfortable, to 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:55.840 comfortable with the point where you're dolfs like you're going 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:59.480 through the motions, because that's bad. Yeah, we're just going 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:05.080 through the motions. We're not really focused, right, So we 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:07.280 try to try to keep the sets. You know, we'll 1:00:07.280 --> 1:00:09.200 switch them up, replace songs we haven't played in a while, 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:18.880 just to just switch it up. So I listen to 1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:25.640 Johnson Brothers. Okay, I'm not gonna lie to you his 1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:28.000 rock and roll. This is rock and roll right here. Yeah, 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:31.800 we were trying to play rock? Was this a Was 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:35.440 this a rock and roll band? Here? Oh? Yeah? Absolutely nothing? Roll? 1:00:35.840 --> 1:00:38.160 Like the goal with the Johnson Brothers West to Blank 1:00:38.360 --> 1:00:41.720 you play rock and roll? Was it to be the 1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:45.440 biggest rock and roll band in the planet. No, I 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:49.000 don't think anybody had delusions of that, but you know 1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:51.920 it was it was girl play rock and roll and 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:56.480 you know, to me, rock and roll for the sake 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.840 of rock and roll was what rock and roll is, 1:01:01.280 --> 1:01:03.640 you know. But not that I'm any kind of authority 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:08.440 on I like, uh, I like that, you know, still 1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:17.200 drivers up bluegrass here it is, you know, bluegrass rock. 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:20.600 It's kind of it's a rock and bluegrass thing. Would 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:24.919 you were you've you feel like that's fair this, yeah, 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:29.080 but in general, like still you feel like there were Yeah, 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.720 we lived on the outside edge of what was acceptably 1:01:31.760 --> 1:01:35.640 called bluegrass, you know, sou And I'm definitely not in 1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:38.800 any way a traditional gluegress singer. And I'm not telling 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.120 anybody think they think that they don't already know, but 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:49.440 uh yeah, we definitely played with the boundaries of what 1:01:49.440 --> 1:01:52.800 what that means in that band, but not only more 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:55.880 than some other guys did before us, you know, Tim 1:01:55.920 --> 1:02:02.400 O'Brian deel Scott, New Grass Revival, things like that, Tony Rise, 1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:05.680 lot a lot of cool. You don't warm your voice 1:02:05.760 --> 1:02:09.360 up before a show, really, huh, that's so crazy. I 1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:12.280 might sing a little bit, you know, just mess around 1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.240 with the band, but but you don't really for a 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:18.440 for as violent as you sing that would be like, well, 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:20.480 I I kind of write the set us a warm up, 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.040 you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, that's fair. I 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:26.840 put the you know, I don't put the the heavy 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:30.280 hitter out of the gate. I put something that I 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.919 can kind of get loose on. What's the heavy hitter 1:02:32.920 --> 1:02:34.600 for you to sing? When you when you put a song, 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:36.960 you're like, I'm about to take this one on the 1:02:37.000 --> 1:02:40.880 heavy hitter. I mean sometimes like Crass always a heavy hit, 1:02:40.960 --> 1:02:43.960 or h boy, do you hit that? When you play 1:02:44.040 --> 1:02:45.520 that song, you feel like you have to do that, 1:02:46.720 --> 1:02:48.880 like you have to do that. Oh yeah, whatever I 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:51.439 got I mean is gonna get done on that one. 1:02:52.040 --> 1:02:55.000 That's when people come. If people like that song, that's 1:02:55.000 --> 1:02:56.840 what they want to hear. I love that song on 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:58.840 the record too. When it goes like a studio to 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:01.040 live you know that part of the uh in that 1:03:01.120 --> 1:03:03.400 part of that track where it goes from studio and 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:05.440 then at the end of like you know, the clapping, Well, 1:03:05.480 --> 1:03:07.840 that's just the people that were in the room. Are 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:12.240 you kidding me? Okay, So in my mind, as you 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:15.160 can tell, I know every freaking track, But did you 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:17.720 put out that's in people in the room in the 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:21.440 studio when you recorded that clapping. Yeah, we cut that track. 1:03:21.840 --> 1:03:23.920 We had the record done, we had traveled done, and 1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:26.200 we invited the people to the listening party at our 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:29.120 cia and they all had headphones and then we pulled 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.200 like this thing. We're like, here's what we're gonna do. 1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:33.240 We're gonna do one more. We're gonna finish the record 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:36.560 right now, and you're gonna be watching. And so we 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:38.960 cut that in front of a bunch of press folks 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:41.440 and everything. I had no idea. And that's them. Some 1:03:41.480 --> 1:03:42.880 of them had headphones on and some of them were 1:03:42.880 --> 1:03:46.200 just in the room, you know. But the clapping is 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:48.920 is those people in the room. I thought that was 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:51.000 some kind of weird You did his studio and you 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:54.600 you like melded it with the end of a live performance. No, 1:03:54.760 --> 1:03:59.240 it's an actual live performance with people in the room. Man, 1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:02.360 did you know that? Look like what you learn when 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:04.520 you ask questions? Who knew when you ask questions to 1:04:04.600 --> 1:04:10.520 learn things? Do you realize how big Chris Stapleton is. 1:04:12.560 --> 1:04:15.720 I'm go back to sixt right now. No, no, come on, 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:22.840 come on, do you like you're the You're the thing? 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:28.479 Because and here's why and it's because you don't try 1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.840 to be the thing. It's Isn't it crazy how cool 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:32.760 people work, How the coolest people are the ones that 1:04:32.800 --> 1:04:36.200 don't try to be cool. Uh well, I don't know 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:38.600 if I'm one of the coolest people. Okay, you don't 1:04:38.640 --> 1:04:40.520 have to talk about you, but okay, would you say 1:04:40.560 --> 1:04:43.000 to the people that you admire the most in creative 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.640 Land of the people that aren't out there to be 1:04:45.680 --> 1:04:48.760 admired the most in creative Land? Absolutely? You know. I 1:04:48.760 --> 1:04:50.840 will say the people that I've met that I believe 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:53.680 to be cool definitely are not trying to be cool. 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:59.040 And that's what people feel about you. You are the 1:04:59.040 --> 1:05:01.560 the biggest thing in our I'm not eve gonna say 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:03.560 you're not even formatty to me, Like, I'm not a 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:06.160 format guy. I'm on country radio stations, but I love 1:05:06.200 --> 1:05:08.080 all music and I've done all. I've done rock and 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:11.400 sports and pop and country and again. I'm a Kiftain 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:13.880 Arkansas who grew up listening to Kissing ninety States country 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:17.240 radio but also was an alternative kid and a hip 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:19.240 hop I sat hip hop record deal you know for 1:05:19.320 --> 1:05:22.120 you know, so I have all of this, So I 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:25.160 don't even consider you in the this you're just a 1:05:25.200 --> 1:05:27.280 country singer, right. I hope that's okay for me to 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:30.400 say that, because I don't know. I don't like labels either, 1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:33.400 so you're not bothering me with anything you're saying. But 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:37.080 like you are the gold standard now to two artists, 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:40.840 like everyone's the next, you know, next Michael Jordan, It's 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:43.480 Kobe Bryant, the next Michael Jordan, is Lebron James, the 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:46.320 next Michael Jordan. But now everyone is, oh this, this 1:05:46.400 --> 1:05:48.840 is the female version of Chris Stable, and it's the 1:05:48.840 --> 1:05:51.160 next Chris Stable. And you gotta hear something that's gotta 1:05:51.160 --> 1:05:53.760 get back to you, right, No, I don't you know. 1:05:54.480 --> 1:05:57.480 I don't come into town that much. I don't. No, 1:05:57.520 --> 1:06:00.760 I don't running around talking to people too much. You know. 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:06.400 When I'm not on the road, I'm out. We bought 1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:07.880 some land and I'm out in the middle of it. 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:10.960 And that's why you're cool. You don't even care. It's 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:12.080 not that I don't care. I don't want you to 1:06:12.120 --> 1:06:13.840 say it's no, I don't care. If you don't care 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:16.160 what I care very much about. I don't care about people. 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:18.000 That's that was my point. You don't care what people 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:20.160 are saying you don't really care about the person you 1:06:20.200 --> 1:06:23.760 care about putting out what you feel. It feels good, right, 1:06:24.400 --> 1:06:26.919 you know, and that's the only thing you should care about. Yeah, 1:06:27.280 --> 1:06:35.000 I need to take some lessons from you. This, obviously, 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:36.800 in my mind, was about Wizard of Eyes, the movie 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:38.520 I have to picture and you're watching Wizard of Eyes. 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:45.200 Really no, no, but see now, I'm people are gonna 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:47.240 be taking it and like turning the volume off of 1:06:47.320 --> 1:06:53.200 the Wizard Off. So what people don't know is and 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:54.800 I guess we waited too pretty close to the end 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:57.560 of it to say this and admit this, but volume 1:06:57.640 --> 1:06:59.520 two you can actually match it up with face off 1:06:59.520 --> 1:07:02.640 and turn faces off on it at the beginning and 1:07:02.760 --> 1:07:07.680 turned full full circle all the way back around. You 1:07:07.720 --> 1:07:10.360 feel good like you, You feel like your life right now? 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:12.600 You feel good? Oh yeah, what makes you happy? What 1:07:12.680 --> 1:07:16.120 makes me happy? Oh? My kids made me happy, and 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:23.520 my wife makes me happy. And you know, just getting 1:07:23.520 --> 1:07:26.800 to play music makes me happy. Playing guitar makes me happy. 1:07:27.640 --> 1:07:30.439 All the folks um I get to work with made 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:36.080 me happy. So I'm pretty happy, dude. All that that's 1:07:36.120 --> 1:07:39.960 pretty much all of my days right there. So you 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:43.440 feel like people ask a lot more of you now, absolutely, 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:45.479 But I mean that's part of that's part of the gig. 1:07:46.920 --> 1:07:48.560 You mean, just like, do you get more asked to 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:51.760 do things or just both? Do you feel like do 1:07:51.800 --> 1:07:56.200 you feel like at times Chris and Chris Stableton or 1:07:56.200 --> 1:08:00.760 two different people? Sure, but you know not and and 1:08:00.800 --> 1:08:05.320 also yes, you know like there's there's a there's a 1:08:05.400 --> 1:08:08.840 dude that everybody. I don't want to talk about myself 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:10.840 on the third person or anything. I think it's fair 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:13.080 to in the situation though, because I just asked you 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.360 that Chris and Chris Stapleton, So I think it's fair to. Yeah, 1:08:16.400 --> 1:08:18.400 I mean, on one hand, I'm I'm I'm just a 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:22.679 guy who you know, was trying to raise his family 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:26.200 and take care of his family and like anybody any 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:31.800 other guy would. On the other hand, I'm I'm I'm 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:35.920 something else or people perceive me to be something else 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:39.639 when I'm playing music. I guess that, you know, can 1:08:39.720 --> 1:08:43.320 sometimes be strange, but it's also you know, like, Okay, 1:08:43.600 --> 1:08:48.599 um here's what I got, you know, and and if 1:08:48.640 --> 1:08:55.760 that uh makes people feel good or um, let's people 1:08:55.800 --> 1:08:59.080 have a good time, but forget about some other you know, 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:03.160 terriful thing that got going on for a couple of 1:09:03.160 --> 1:09:06.679 hours at a show, then that's a real hot calling, 1:09:06.920 --> 1:09:10.800 So I'm happy to do it. I got another one. 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:14.640 I still think there's a is a Christaltic conspiracy to 1:09:14.840 --> 1:09:16.639 one album of the Year two years in a row. 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:19.840 That's why I think about a m B. That's why 1:09:19.840 --> 1:09:23.480 I think Volume one. But that's why I think congratulations. 1:09:23.479 --> 1:09:24.960 By the way, thank you very much. Do you feel 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:28.720 like because I mean, that's probably three roads of before 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:32.080 from you and I was I was watching you. Is 1:09:32.120 --> 1:09:36.200 this propectly not your name? Still? Yeah? I mean, do 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:38.880 you are you surprised if somebody gives you an award? 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:42.880 I don't like awards. I'm not comfortable with them. I 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:46.040 don't Yeah, you don't know what to say. I don't 1:09:46.200 --> 1:09:49.799 like like. The thing is that when you get an award, 1:09:49.880 --> 1:09:53.479 like there's the immediate feeling of, oh, I didn't prepare 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:57.600 a speech and also I'm gonna say something off the 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:01.840 cuff that maybe doesn't make any sense, and then you 1:10:01.880 --> 1:10:04.559 walk off like oh I forgot this or you know. 1:10:05.040 --> 1:10:09.719 Um so those things are are funny in those moments, 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:15.439 you know, But no, I don't ever expect them. I don't, 1:10:15.680 --> 1:10:19.719 you know, And someday my not expecting them will come true. 1:10:19.800 --> 1:10:24.439 So I'll enjoy it while while we have the U 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:29.880 I have have our moment, and and when we don't, 1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:32.360 we'll look back and go, wow, that was that was cool. 1:10:33.360 --> 1:10:35.880 Two questions and we'll wrap this up. Question one, what's 1:10:35.880 --> 1:10:39.160 your favorite picture you have in your house? My favorite picture? Yeah, 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:42.400 like you think of your favorite picture? Sure, I have 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:50.639 in my house. We're still halfway. Don't have too many 1:10:50.640 --> 1:11:02.200 pictures hanging up out Um yeah, yeah, right now it's 1:11:02.320 --> 1:11:06.000 probably uh my wife, are you talking like a photograph 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:09.519 or just like a photograph memory, like a picture? You're like, man, 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:13.839 I love it when I see that picture, see that picture. 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:16.439 We don't have a lot of pictures up in our house. 1:11:16.520 --> 1:11:20.920 It's it's weird. We have more like art and you know, 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:27.400 weird uh fines. You know. I used to be like 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:30.400 a flea market guy, you know, like I have all 1:11:30.439 --> 1:11:37.720 these odd things. There's a I guess my favorite one 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:41.200 is My wife has this little tiny I was probably 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:47.559 six by four framed picture of a rabbit that was 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:49.360 given to her and by her I believe, by her 1:11:49.400 --> 1:11:52.120 friend Paul Kennedy, or maybe she got it because Paul Kennedy. 1:11:52.479 --> 1:11:54.479 I guess it's a British thing. The first of every month, 1:11:54.520 --> 1:11:56.600 you're supposed to say rabbits the first thing when you 1:11:56.640 --> 1:11:59.320 wake up, right that stuffing Paul does. I don't know, 1:12:00.400 --> 1:12:04.080 but it reminds her of Paul. And she has this 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:07.240 little tiny it's supposed to bring you good luck, I guess. 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:10.040 And so there's this little tiny picture of a rabbit 1:12:10.120 --> 1:12:12.760 hanging in our house. That's beyond that there I have 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:15.639 a plate that there's also a plate that somebody gave 1:12:15.720 --> 1:12:17.680 us for our wedding that's a kind of a full 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:21.760 card painting of me and my wife. That's the day 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:24.800 we were married, and it's traveled with us everywhere. That 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.000 kind of hangs in the kitchen. But those are the 1:12:27.040 --> 1:12:29.920 two that stuck out of my mind. I'm writing m 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:34.040 my second book, and it's on adversity, and it's on 1:12:34.439 --> 1:12:40.640 it's basically a failure and how that the greatest successes 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:43.760 are often the people that have failed the most and 1:12:43.840 --> 1:12:47.920 have continued to get back up but told no, get 1:12:47.920 --> 1:12:50.439 out dude again. Learn the told no, get up to 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:53.360 it again? Learn Was there ever a point and what 1:12:53.400 --> 1:12:54.960 was the point for you where you were like, man, 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:57.320 this is this is kind of my low. I don't 1:12:57.360 --> 1:12:58.680 know if I'm gonna able to get out of this 1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:04.840 just mentally. Um. It doesn't really have anything to do 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:10.640 with anything professional, but um, um, you know, the day 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:13.599 that my my dad passed away, I got a call 1:13:13.880 --> 1:13:17.840 in South Carolina. Was down there, um taking my kids 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:21.519 down there to the beach with their other grandparents, and 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:25.760 I got the call my brother Carl. So I took 1:13:25.760 --> 1:13:29.160 a little walk, kind of soaked that in. And you know, 1:13:29.200 --> 1:13:32.040 I was there two days prior when we played a show, 1:13:33.320 --> 1:13:38.800 and uh, you told me goodbye or whatever. I could 1:13:38.840 --> 1:13:40.360 have stayed. I could have stayed two days. So the 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:43.960 biggest regret in there, and I should have stayed. I 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:47.400 should have stayed over, but I used some lame excuse 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:48.880 like you know what, I got got on the bus, 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:51.000 a bus to leaving. You know, I could have figured 1:13:51.040 --> 1:13:54.519 something out. But so that was a failure in my 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:59.120 mind as a you know, a failure of things that 1:13:59.160 --> 1:14:01.680 I should have done. I don't have any regrets, but 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:03.800 I do regret those two days. And for some reason, 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:09.360 those two days magically mean more than all the other days. 1:14:09.400 --> 1:14:12.240 I could have been there saying hello or doing something, 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:22.040 but my dad. UM, that's that's probably for me that 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:27.760 was a failure. UM as a son, I guess, but 1:14:29.960 --> 1:14:33.240 you know, you can't get those things back, but you 1:14:33.320 --> 1:14:37.640 do learn in those moments, you know, in moments to 1:14:37.720 --> 1:14:41.640 try to not to let the professional um kind of 1:14:41.640 --> 1:14:44.800 outweigh the personal or steer it more than it should. 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:51.360 And for me that that that, for me was the lesson. 1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:55.760 Do you feel like it's given you balance with your 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:59.360 family now and how you balance that? Well, we do 1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:02.320 our best and we're still very much working on the 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:08.000 balance because it's a very UM, it's a demanding thing 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:13.519 on your time to go to our likely tour or ah. 1:15:14.400 --> 1:15:18.880 You know, you know the deal. It's Uh. When you 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:22.360 have a moment where you you're enjoying some success, you 1:15:22.400 --> 1:15:25.639 get UM. And I am not complaining in any way, 1:15:25.680 --> 1:15:29.439 shape or form, but he gets very hard to say 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:34.800 no to things because, UM, for so many years you 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:37.120 didn't have the opportunity to even say yes to anything. 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:41.479 And then when you get in that moment where there 1:15:41.479 --> 1:15:45.800 are more things too to have to either say yes 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:49.040 or no to than you have time for, it can 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:53.320 be an overwhelming thing. But hopefully I'm getting a little 1:15:53.320 --> 1:15:56.960 bit better saying no to things, UM in lieu of 1:15:57.520 --> 1:16:02.080 you know, saying no to things under the guys of 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:07.679 the preservational sanity and family and UM and just you know, balance, 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:10.639 which I think is an important thing. That the people 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:13.200 that I admire the most in this business that have 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:20.760 long careers I think are balanced people in that they 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:23.799 can they can turn that professional off for a minute 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:28.120 and go enjoy themselves do something they enjoy. I had 1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:30.320 the hardest time in the world going and just doing 1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:33.240 something that I enjoy solely for the purpose of me 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:36.840 enjoying it. One of the hardest things in wonder for 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:39.559 me to do. My wife literally has made me do things. 1:16:39.880 --> 1:16:41.720 She's like, go do that. You you want to go 1:16:41.800 --> 1:16:44.360 do that, You'll you'll enjoy it, And she's always right. 1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:49.040 But I have very little UM, you know, I have 1:16:49.080 --> 1:16:51.720 a hard time flipping that switch, particularly in the in 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:53.559 the moment that we're in. You know, I'm like, well, 1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:55.400 there's so much opportunity over here for us to do 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:59.160 these things that aren't good professionally, but it's not always 1:16:59.200 --> 1:17:04.559 the healthiest thing, um personally, and so trying to find 1:17:04.560 --> 1:17:09.120 that balance and UM, I don't know I've gotten off 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.040 base with the question A little bit probably, but I 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:13.519 don't think there is off base with the question. Well, 1:17:13.840 --> 1:17:16.559 let me say this all professional things aside. First, just 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:19.880 you know, from a Room one and two and traveler 1:17:20.000 --> 1:17:25.520 and you know, it's just like you changed the landscape, 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:29.479 whether you know, I want to admit you have, and 1:17:30.120 --> 1:17:33.280 I think I know. I appreciate that. And I also 1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:35.080 appreciate what kind of you bet to me over the years, 1:17:35.080 --> 1:17:37.800 because you definitely didn't had to have been well and 1:17:37.880 --> 1:17:40.160 that was specification to you. You've always I mean, you've 1:17:40.200 --> 1:17:43.240 been always nice to me solely on the fact you 1:17:43.280 --> 1:17:45.559 know that you like me and my music, not because 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.120 at the time when you were playing things on your 1:17:48.120 --> 1:17:53.200 show that it wasn't the thing to do. So um, 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:56.560 I certainly appreciate that, and I remember that, and I 1:17:56.800 --> 1:17:58.799 was real the first time we talk, you're in the shower. 1:17:59.560 --> 1:18:01.599 I always you call me at the house at home 1:18:01.680 --> 1:18:04.519 and you're like, hey, man, I'm gonna shower. Can I 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:09.599 call you right back? I'm like, why not coming right back? Yeah, 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:11.800 So I appreciate that. I appreciate you. I appreciate you 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:13.479 and Morgan both. You're always very kind to me. I've 1:18:13.479 --> 1:18:16.400 said before that we'll be at the biggest, craziest event, 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:20.240 and they're famous people everywhere, and you're always like eyeball 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:24.559 to eyeball. So well we know each other. So that's different, 1:18:24.600 --> 1:18:27.680 you know, and that's not you know whatever and all 1:18:27.720 --> 1:18:32.759 that stuff. You know, it's just like, man, it's uh, 1:18:32.960 --> 1:18:35.439 you know, people are good. Good people are good people, 1:18:36.160 --> 1:18:38.200 and I would rather hang out with good people than 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:43.559 you know, a terrible person who's famous. You know, That's 1:18:43.640 --> 1:18:47.280 that's just me. Well, I appreciate you, thanks for listen. 1:18:47.320 --> 1:18:49.919 I know that your favorite thing isn't talking on the microphone. 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:51.960 We've just been an hour talking on a microphone. That's okay, 1:18:52.240 --> 1:18:53.800 But I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:56.760 talk on a microphone with you. So did was this? Uh? 1:18:56.920 --> 1:19:00.160 It's okay. That was great, very comfortable, and you the 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:04.200 recliner is a nice is a nice touch. You know. 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:06.679 I had, I had an alternate band that I wanted 1:19:06.720 --> 1:19:09.439 to form. Maybe I shouldn't give it away. But if 1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:13.479 this band ever comes out, it's called recliner. Where you 1:19:13.600 --> 1:19:16.160 play in a recliner. Are you're just getting lazy? Now? 1:19:16.200 --> 1:19:19.160 That's a band that's just a lazy band. Yeah, maybe 1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:23.519 it's called lazy. Yeah, that's good to see you, buddy, 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:26.000 and I hope you, hope you continue doing it your way, 1:19:26.040 --> 1:19:29.479 regardless of what cells and what doesn't. Just keep. I 1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:31.040 hope you just keep. I don't know how to do 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:37.000 anything else. Chris Stampleton and from a Room, Volume two, 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:39.160 December one, right, I don't have to know. It's a 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:41.000 kind of members going by my brain here December one. 1:19:41.080 --> 1:19:42.519 And people are gonna hear this way after that too. 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:44.800 But I hope you get to learn about Chris and 1:19:45.479 --> 1:19:48.360 go second third layer with that and almost in the NFL. 1:19:48.439 --> 1:19:52.960 That's what I learned, almost not even close. It's good 1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:54.800 to see it. Thank you very much, Chris,