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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode eight eight of the Bobby Cast

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Speaker 1: and with Chris Stapleton. Good to see you, budd. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was like, I wonder if Chris

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Speaker 1: is gonna show up with all these people, because when

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Speaker 1: you come in to the radio, like everybody, all the

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Speaker 1: labels gotta come all check all the managements. Guy, I

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Speaker 1: gotta come. And you just came to the house by yourself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pretty much pretty much you got. Did you have guards

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Speaker 1: us at the door waiting? There's six security guards down serious?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mind? Those are mine though, ye, no, just me man,

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Speaker 1: just me home. I was. You know, I have from

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Speaker 1: a Room volume one obviously, and some of up two

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Speaker 1: have downloaded and streams of them. What was interesting to

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Speaker 1: me though, was that you had recorded all this before Traveler,

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Speaker 1: like I had all these songs, all the songs. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: all these songs pre date that or they're in the

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Speaker 1: same time frame, So there's nothing. There's nothing new, I

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Speaker 1: guess technically as as far as songwriting goes, does it

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Speaker 1: feel like they're not news they or do they feel

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Speaker 1: news since you just recorded that? No, they're new to

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Speaker 1: me in a lot of ways because a lot of

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Speaker 1: them I have never played live. I've never you know,

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Speaker 1: attempted in bands or anything. You know, they're just their

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Speaker 1: songs that I love and I've had a round and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, they're new in that sense, and they're always

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Speaker 1: new to people that haven't heard them before. So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if they're seventy five years old. Nobody's ever

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Speaker 1: heard of them. You know, it's it's it's all relative.

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Speaker 1: Would you do this again and do the two records

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Speaker 1: somewhat close together? Maybe maybe not? You know, I sure

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Speaker 1: do like it um because it gives you know, it

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Speaker 1: gives it's my version of content. My labels always looking

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Speaker 1: for content. I was like, well, how am I just

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Speaker 1: more music instead of a cute video piece. I'll just

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Speaker 1: put out another record. Yeah, that's that's kind of my

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Speaker 1: version of content. That's funny, it's more music. So and

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Speaker 1: we'll come back and back around to the record. I think,

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Speaker 1: do you realize how kind of mysterious you are too? People? No,

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Speaker 1: you don't because you are No I am I Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: you are, Like I'm telling you, like, either there's this

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Speaker 1: this this mysterious think of me because you know, get

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Speaker 1: to know you over the past, you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: few years. You're not a guy that likes to be

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Speaker 1: out talking on every microphone, and I think that makes

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Speaker 1: people crave. Oh, like what's he That's not anything that's deliberate,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's just how I am, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's not I mean, interrupt your problem. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you know some people might think that's some kind of

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Speaker 1: plan or employe or something. But I you know, I

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Speaker 1: like to talk to people that I enjoy talking to

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Speaker 1: you and and and I'm okay with that. And I

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Speaker 1: realized that that, you know, I have, you know, an

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Speaker 1: obligation to myself to go talk a little bit, even

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Speaker 1: though that's not the most comfortable space for me. I'd

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Speaker 1: rather be on stage, you know, playing, But that's you know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes talking about myself is hard. You know, that's a

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Speaker 1: hard thing to do. Like it's a hard thing to

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Speaker 1: get used to, like, well, tell me about yourself, you know,

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Speaker 1: like everybody, you know, if you've never done that before,

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Speaker 1: do you remember the first time somebody ever told you

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Speaker 1: to tell tell them about yourself? Like I think I

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Speaker 1: So I think I always had to make people go, hey, don't, don't,

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Speaker 1: don't forget about me. So it was it was different

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Speaker 1: Everybody's experience is different. But I was just never comfortable,

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Speaker 1: bring that up. I wasn't. I wasn't therapy today. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever done it therapy. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: therapy today. I was talking to my my therapist. And

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Speaker 1: it was until I grew up, and I didn't have

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Speaker 1: When you start to kind of dive into these things

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Speaker 1: I just it's oddly. I just had this conversation. I

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Speaker 1: paid a hundred forty bucks to have this. I got

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Speaker 1: saved a bunch of money, did this. So you're growing

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Speaker 1: up living in Kentucky. But what was it like? What

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Speaker 1: was it? What was it like around the house. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's very different. You know what I had. I had

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Speaker 1: And um, so I was real fortunate in that. And

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Speaker 1: so I didn't but you know, I'm so sorry. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I was the hand that I'm just an open book. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I realized that. And I'm realizing I made a

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Speaker 1: people don't go Hey, I don't want to because for me,

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Speaker 1: I've never had a drinking alcohol. But it's not because

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Speaker 1: I I want to drink like crazy, like I would

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Speaker 1: love But I know, Chris, I would drink at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well and that you know at this point, I don't

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Speaker 1: all or nothing guy, because I go to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: walking down the street. It doesn't exercise. It's the subway sandwich.

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Speaker 1: I must have the same sandwich every day for three months,

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Speaker 1: right if you like it. If I like it, and

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing every day, Okay, So yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's why I don't. That's why I don't, you know,

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Speaker 1: all right, honestly, you're gonna be honest. Thing. So, I

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Speaker 1: I guess I've never had drink alcohol, and I've never

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Speaker 1: But like I have my stress, My it's it's so

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Speaker 1: It's it's not legal here, but like these edibles, yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably but you know, if you know, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just you know, some of it just

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Speaker 1: but I think it definitely would have you know, if

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Speaker 1: what I need something to mellow me out. I think

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Speaker 1: you know, I've I've met a lot more people who

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Speaker 1: who are you know, Ebjecquelin Hide on alcohol. I think, um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor in here in any way endorsing

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Speaker 1: for even in athletics. These football players are like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: you're putting us on all these prescriptions, but this, you know,

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Speaker 1: medicinal marijuana, like you were talking about cutting the pain

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of rule followers on some levels. But um,

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Speaker 1: because it'd be if the doctor was like, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: I had bad insomni when I was a kid, and

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Speaker 1: I had to take sleeping pills, right, didn't have to.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst thing ever. I hated it. Did

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Speaker 1: you know, but you know they're necessary things sometimes. But

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Speaker 1: I was reading this book about sleep. You feel like

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Speaker 1: you sleep? Okay, no, no, you don't know. I'm I'm I'm,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a good sleeper. Most of the time.

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Speaker 1: I was reading this book about sleep and they talk

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Speaker 1: your sleep, you just miss out on it. Like that's

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Speaker 1: a few days and then catch up on on a Saturday. Right,

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Speaker 1: as well, and long term it could hurt you. And

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Speaker 1: so I was just fascinated. And that gives you anxiety

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Speaker 1: It's it's a bad thing. Do you probably exercise and

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Speaker 1: BOS try to try to do everything that I can

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Speaker 1: bed let you choose your idea, comfort and support on

422
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: each side, so it's just right for the both of you,

423
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: and there's even adjustment for snoring. I do love Sleep

424
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: Number bed. I haven't had two of them three though,

425
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember bad, but I love him so much.

426
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: My sleep I score last night was in the I

427
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: don't know what it was. My setting is thirty. Sleep

428
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: Number beds cost about the same as the traditional mattresses

429
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: the last twice as long and cent of owners recommend them.

430
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Speaker 1: And right now go in Monday, say on the ultimate

431
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: limit edition BEDI stores Nation Ony, I call eight hundred

432
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: next bed and tell him that I set you all right.

433
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: So you're in Kentucky. You decided again that's not for you, say,

434
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: time to move back to Nashville. Well it's not that, uh,

435
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, short that there was some you know, I've

436
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 1: moved into a house some friends and just worked different jobs.

437
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: You know here are there in Kentucky but not in

438
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 1: my hometown, in a different town. What you do? What

439
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of jobs you do? Oh? I drove you ever see? Uh?

440
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: At the gas stations like the home city ice where

441
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: you get the ice out of the cooler outside. We

442
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: drove to the home city ice truck. We delivered ice

443
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: to bice to bad guys. It's miserable to have to ba.

444
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: I just delivered it, all right, You were one of

445
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: the higher uppers. Yeah, there are two times did you

446
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: homes the eyes no buys, the bad guys and we

447
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: in different ice companies. We get ice from us, and

448
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: so I back us all day, bad guys all day,

449
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: and we would be like, oh, there's the fancy delivery guy.

450
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: It's like when I did at the time you would

451
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 1: have been, I'd have been like, oh there's the stable

452
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: and fell and who thinks he's better than us? That?

453
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: And I want to And I was a weeding or

454
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: a golf course maintenance and we all I'd always look

455
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 1: at the cart guys and be like, they think they're

456
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: better than us because of the car guys. Yeah, so

457
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: you delivered ice delibered ice. You know ever you ever

458
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: been in a parking lot and you've got like a

459
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: coupon for a pizza on your car? Oh yeah, you

460
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: put those. I was the dude to put them under

461
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: the winch. Wif no listen, that can't pay a whole lot.

462
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: It was an hourly rate. Yeah, and I just did

463
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: it when I didn't have any gigs. And so you're

464
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: playing at this time, you're playing music there, Yeah, i'd play.

465
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: You know, you go play bars, you top forty gigs,

466
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, the four hour shift, but sometimes you need

467
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: your money. I happen to live with a guy who

468
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: managed Papa John's at the time. Like, man, Papa John's

469
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: not the band, He's not managing the band Papa Johns

470
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: band called Papa Johns. No, but it sounds like in

471
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: this town, you know, somebody's always managing somebody. But no,

472
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: he was managing Papa John's band or Papa John the

473
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: guy he was managing a Papa John's restaurant. Yes, And

474
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: he'd be like, hey, just go coup on some cars

475
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: for me, So I'd go work for two or three hours.

476
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: Done that would you would take him and just like

477
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: throwing like you got a whole stack up him here,

478
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, come on and just like dump them

479
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: off that a little bit. No, no, no, no, that's

480
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: not me. I couldn't do that. That would that would

481
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: I would feel so guilty about that? It your buddy too, Yeah, no, no,

482
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that to him. What does that pay for?

483
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Hour to go ahead? And I don't know. It was

484
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: medium wage, you know whatever, like six bucks maybe less

485
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: than that. So you're playing it? Are you doing that?

486
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: All the cover the cover songs at the bar? Are you?

487
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: Are you playing originals? Manly dis cover stuff? You know,

488
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: whatever gig comes up, you know, we go play the

489
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, the Army r TWOC is having a ball.

490
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: We'll go play the four hour Army RRTC gig. Whoever

491
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: we can find to be the band at the time,

492
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, I had a couple of group of group

493
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: of buddies and j T who's my bass player, was

494
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: in that group, you know of guys um where you know, somebody, Hey, man,

495
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: I got this gig. You know, alright, cool, what is it?

496
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: What we gotta play? All right, let's go. And back

497
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: then we were so miserably bad at business. We would

498
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: change our band name every time we had a different gig,

499
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, just just to be funny, because we thought

500
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: it was funny, you know, And and and the hindsight,

501
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: that's there's a absolute worst way to build a following

502
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: is to change your band name every time but you know,

503
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: yeah we did lost. You know, it could be a

504
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: some kind of a folk old time gig, or it

505
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: could be a Top forty, you know, playing roller Coaster

506
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: for four hours? Well, dudes, did cach stands? You know,

507
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: it's just whatever whatever was playing when you're playing those

508
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: shows back then, because you're known now for how strong

509
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: your voice, that powerful your voice is um by the

510
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: two people that don't know your songwriting, like the people

511
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: that have in the last couple of years, say I

512
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this, Chris Stapleton. You're known for your distinct voice,

513
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: powerful voice even then when you're playing in the VFW

514
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: or wherever you're playing, where people are like, holy crap,

515
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: or did that take time to develop for you? Uh?

516
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I mean a lot of

517
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: things that you play when you're in those modes, uh,

518
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, the bar band just kind of becomes background noise.

519
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's in there really trying to dig into

520
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: what the bar bands singing about. Particularly you're saying cover

521
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: teams are just like, oh, he's all right, you know,

522
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: he didn't sound like whoever, whoever did you're covering because

523
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: you're not going to you know, you're just gonna be

524
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: a bar band version of that. But if you played

525
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: a bar right now and there are people everywhere, people

526
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: will stop and go, what is that if you put

527
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: on like a like one of those prosthetic faces and

528
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't sing people, that wouldn't be background noise. I

529
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, it would be a good experiment.

530
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: We could, you know, we could, we could make that happen.

531
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure be like, what's that movie with Travolta? Did

532
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: you watch that movie? Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, you know what,

533
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: if that movie is on, I have to watch it.

534
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was a bad movie, but it

535
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: was a terrible premise. I don't know how movie you

536
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: got greenlit. Well I don't either, But we're gonna cut

537
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: each other's faces off and beat each other and then

538
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: fight each other. At the time with those two guys

539
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: in and it was nobody was gonna lose. Everybody was

540
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna go watch it face off. Haven't thought about that

541
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: movie since I watched it the first time. What a

542
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: terrible concept. It wasn't a bad movie. No, it wasn't bad.

543
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: I think it was. I was on the bus other day,

544
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that's watch on my mind. I actually didn't watch it.

545
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I passed over it. There was

546
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: something else I like better on. I don't know. On

547
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: your bus you have direct TV in the bush? Yeah, okay,

548
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: commuted to I have direct TV and maybe I don't

549
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: know if if the buzzard just suck, but whenever the

550
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: buzs is moving, I can't keep that thing on solid.

551
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: It's not even the Chris table does. We can't get

552
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: direct TV to stay on as the bus is moving. Listen, man,

553
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: when when a door opens on my bus, my TV

554
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: shuts off. So don't If you can get to get

555
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: just the TV to stay on when your doors open

556
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: and close, you're doing better than me. What do you do? Okay,

557
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I'll be out it because you know, I have eight jobs,

558
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: right like I'm writting books and I'm just trying to survive. Right.

559
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: But when I'm out on the road, like I was

560
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: out where all this weekend, I got so bored. I

561
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: get bored because you just got to find phil space

562
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: up because in the daytime you get us sound check.

563
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: You got like four hours. But again you have you

564
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: know what what what naptime? I tried taking nap and

565
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: I do take a nap sometimes and I even got

566
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: a but I even have my dog is six, so

567
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: I think my dog got on the road with me,

568
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: and so I put a I have the starbus knocked

569
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: on a diva right now. Not usually usually with swall

570
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: bunks were all the same. But now it's a starbus.

571
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: I need my dog on the dog on the road

572
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: next thing, you know. Yeah, I'm just saying I'm Beyonce,

573
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, So I tried that. I tried the

574
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: nap thing bed. I can hurt him my back. I'm

575
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: very sensitive. I'm like that lily. I'm like a little lily.

576
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: The beds aren't great on buses. The box are better.

577
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I prefer you know, you're sleeping a buck. I know

578
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: obvious sleep in a bed because me and my wife

579
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: haven't have a bed. But you know, there's no version

580
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: of a bed on a bus that's a to lead

581
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: big enough for two people to sleep in. But we

582
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: do it, I think at a principle. But uh, it's uh,

583
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: it's interesting, you know. And and the roads on in

584
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: the United States are really bad right now. They all

585
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: need work. I don't know how where you've been going

586
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: through lately, but everywhere that needs work. Yeah, I've been

587
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: to all those places you're mentioning right now. You from Arkansas. Yeah, yeah,

588
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Arkansas is one the worst man one of the world.

589
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: And you can tell the difference across Tennessee, Tennessee and Arkansas,

590
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: like immediately when you crossed, it's like, yeah, we were there.

591
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: This is the past. I think this past weekend. Yeah,

592
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: so it was, it's fresh on my mind. Is the

593
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: one that has potholes. New York City is pretty bad

594
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: when you roll up in through their New York in general,

595
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: because I love you. Remember my state is the bad

596
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: road state. Like I got an there, I got cousins there.

597
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: It's all good. I'm not picking on just your state.

598
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: Apology people, Listen, you're from Kentucky. Listen. We should start

599
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: a go fund Me page for the Arkansas Highways. I

600
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: think we've tried. I don't think. I don't think that works. So, yeah,

601
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: they would like to look at the pictures of the shows.

602
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: It's been so crazy to watch the growth it's been.

603
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: There's been two artists that I've seen grow, like like

604
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: I've watched this grow, this part of you, this this

605
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: uh chapter of Chris Stapleton, You and Sam and you're

606
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: not the same. But it's like nobody kind of came

607
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, completely organic, and it's been boom songwriting first,

608
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: like paying dudes writing songs for for people, Like that's why, Like,

609
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: is that why you moved? You moved down to write songs?

610
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Sound a songwriter? I thought that was that sounded like

611
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: the greatest job I've ever heard of, the intent I

612
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: heard of even though singing like you did, you want

613
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: to like, I can go be an artist that Let's

614
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: be honest. You know, sitting in the room playing a

615
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: guitar for maybe three hours a day and getting paid

616
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: to do that is probably still the greatest job in

617
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: the world. Would you rather sit in the room and

618
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: write a great song with one of your song everybodies

619
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: or play on stage for fifteen thousand people. I like

620
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: to play, so that that's hard to say. But I

621
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: like to write a good song too. But you know,

622
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: at this point, I probably have to pick playing because

623
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: I like playing. I like playing a whole lot. Do

624
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: you ever get to where I'm getting kind of tired

625
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: of playing? I just kind of want to write songs

626
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: for a few months? No, No, I mean, certainly, if

627
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: you're if you're not feeling if you're sick. You know,

628
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: there's times I'm sure you get out there, not sleeping

629
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: and working nine days a week where you're just like him.

630
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: You know. I wish I could just you know, chill

631
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: out just a minit, But the fear will keep you going.

632
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: The fear that's why I fear. I'm terrified that I

633
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: feel like and I don't know if you feel this way,

634
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: because I'm obviously nuts, but I feel like I've been

635
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: committing crimes for a long time and eventually the cops

636
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: are gonna catch me, and when they do, my career

637
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 1: is over because they're gonna they they've got me, or

638
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna figure out that I'm not even some imposter syndrome.

639
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: You feel like, absolutely, I think I think a lot

640
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: of people feel that. Not only a lot of people

641
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: will verbalize it, you know, but I had somebody that

642
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: uh and I won't say his name, but uh, you

643
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: know it was a hero of mine. You have that

644
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: very thing. He's like, I'm just waiting for everybody to

645
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: figure you know, figured out, And I'm just like, I

646
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: was just like, even you feel that way, I was like, okay,

647
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: all right, do you feel that way, Oh sure everybody,

648
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, it was some degree nobody you know. But

649
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: then you know the flip side, like when I used

650
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: to say to people when even walking to meet somebody,

651
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: how you do it man, and be like, oh, I'm

652
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: far better than I deserved. I used to say that

653
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: the people. And then I had I met somebody and

654
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: then they were walking up on the bus and there

655
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: was another artist and he said, uh, he said, well

656
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: me too. But you know, maybe we all deserved great things.

657
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: And it really made me. It took me back for

658
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: a minute, and I was just like, wow, that's uh okay,

659
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe we do. And maybe that makes it okay, you know,

660
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: like maybe they can make the fear go away a

661
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: little bit if you if you just think that we

662
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: all probably deserve great things. You know, not all of

663
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: us get it, but I think everybody certainly deserves it.

664
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Do you get in your own head a lot? Do

665
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: you feel like, um, I can in a moment, and yeah,

666
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: I get in my own head quite a bit. It's

667
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: probably why I don't talk that much. What's your fear

668
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: of getting in your own head of talking? Uh? Like,

669
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: what what? What's the worst that can happen in your mind,

670
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: what do you say? You know, I don't want to

671
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: get in my own head, so that's why I don't.

672
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: I might get in my own head on on stage

673
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: sometimes that's the worst place for it to happen to me,

674
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, maybe I don't like out something

675
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: sound in, or uh, I don't like the way guitar

676
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: fields at the moment, you know, or it's you know,

677
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: any little thing that can happen, you know, is the

678
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: danger for me to go completely off the edge and

679
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: just like not be able to dig myself out of

680
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: that moment. It's bad when I go down, but I

681
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: try to avoid it. Will you go down like that?

682
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: Because I'll go down like that, absolutely, and they can

683
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: ruin my whole day and everybody else's whole day. So

684
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: I try to be conscious of it and not do

685
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: it for me. My co host Amy can you can

686
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: notice that, and she's the one that goes boom and

687
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: she'll try to pull me out of it. Is that

688
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: what Morgan does for you? Absolutely? Absolutely, because she can

689
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: see it sometimes or she can see it happening when

690
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: maybe you can't, or you're just starting. Absolutely, Yeah, the

691
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: same thing, just loo very slow because part of the

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: creative part of you needs to be in that space. Well, yeah,

693
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: you gotta be on the edge, you just can't fall

694
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: off of it. Do you feel like sometimes you don't

695
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: want to fix yourself because you'll lose your edge. Do

696
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: you ever have that thought? Um, I'm not till now.

697
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: Never mind scotch that because that's something I would be.

698
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know if I should get better,

699
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: can I lose it? No? You know I used to

700
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: think those kind of things. Um, but I always feel

701
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: like there's room for improvement and if something's making your

702
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: your overall health or life better, it's not necessarily that's

703
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: not losing your edge, you know. I feel like those things. Um,

704
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: it's not losing edge. It's just it's making making you sharper.

705
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: You finish the show, you come off stage, what's the

706
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: what's the first thing you do? Finish the show? I

707
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: thank all the local crew guys for the work, and

708
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: a lot of times my wife is retired for the

709
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: evening before the arcle is over, so I'll go find

710
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: out where she is if she needs anything, and then

711
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I'll probably why not hang with the band guys for

712
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: a few minutes in the dressing room. And then hit

713
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: the bus and I'll be up till two or three

714
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: in the morning watching Face Off for the eight time

715
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: for the eightieth time. Do you go back and listen

716
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: to shows like your live shows and then criticized or

717
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: or love on yourself? No? Not, No, I try not to.

718
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we do record now, and we have a

719
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: pretty elaborate recording rig. We basically, uh, you know, I'm

720
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna have as much of that kind of stuff as

721
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: we can have out there for cataloging, and we're trying

722
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: to put together some live things. But it's a real uh, well,

723
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: that microscope is tough, you know, on live shows, you know,

724
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: because there's so much other external things going on. You

725
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: know that sometimes you can be too hard on yourself.

726
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: So you have to really listen to it in the

727
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: with a different set of ears, and maybe you would

728
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: listen to something you're really picking up on the studio.

729
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: Will you look at a crowd, and when you look

730
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: at the crowd, will you focus on the people are

731
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: having a great time or you see the one that's

732
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: Like anybody that spending my show knows that I don't

733
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: look at the crowd a whole lot, because that a

734
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: little bit can break focus for me, Like I'll look

735
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: at the crowd when I'm not playing and I'll try

736
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: to interact with them in that way. But if I

737
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: do look out there and I see somebody not having

738
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: a good time, it can do that thing. And we're

739
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: talking about or if I see somebody having too good

740
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: at a time, it will make me smile. It'll may

741
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: be too happy and I forget what I'm doing. So

742
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very a d D that way. So I

743
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: have to be real careful about, you know, eye contact.

744
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I do a very controlled version of it for myself,

745
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: just to try to make sure I don't lose focus

746
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: of what I'm doing in the circle of everybody in

747
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: the band. You know. Yeah, I didn't know that because

748
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: I do. I don't seen you play a bunch and

749
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: you do kind of keep down a bet when you play. Yeah,

750
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm here, like somebody can see me over

751
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: the radio or whatever. This isn't but I'm I'm very

752
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: much in the guitar and I'm in I'm singing, and

753
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm in with the rest of the band. That's where

754
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: that's where the stuff's happening. And when it's not going on,

755
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: then the interaction happens a little bit more in the crowd.

756
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: Maybe if I take a solo, I'll step out front

757
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: just for a minute and we can give a little

758
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: plant here in there. But for the most part, I

759
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: try to keep there's just like a little circle happening

760
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: on stage no matter where we're playing that I'm trying

761
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: to stay in that circle. That circle. Who is important

762
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: to you? People in that circle? Absolutely, they're the same

763
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: people on the record. Absolutely, Why are they so important

764
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: to you? None of we wouldn't be sitting here talking

765
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the people in that circle. You know,

766
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: none of none of this would be what it is,

767
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: and none of it would be happening at all if

768
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: it weren't for the people in the sort you really

769
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: care about him? Absolutely, man, Just looking at your as

770
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I can tell you, I feel like with me, I'm

771
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: as good as the people around me are. Like I try,

772
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: I surround us the field make me better, right, And

773
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the best things you can do

774
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: if you want to be better, surround yourself with the

775
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: best people you can find and whatever. And that extends

776
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: into you know, when we're on a room with a

777
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: pretty what I would consider a good sized crew and

778
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: everybody in that crew is that for us. And I

779
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: think that's the key to putting on a successful tour

780
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: is is you get the absolute best people to work

781
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: with you can find at all times. And uh, that's

782
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: four on stage. But the four on stage, Yeah, that's

783
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: you mean, that's that's that's the fist for you. That's

784
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: your fist. Yeah, it's the type like right there, those four.

785
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like ten, but it's it's you four. Yeah, No,

786
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: that's that's the you know. And then you know, Dave

787
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: Cobs in there and when he wants to be in there,

788
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, make your fails in there when

789
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: he has meant to be in there, and they've got

790
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: wherever he wants to be whenever he wants to be

791
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: like that dude. But typically the day watched the show

792
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: for things that are really easy travel or very high profile,

793
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,320
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794
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,080
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795
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,799
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796
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799
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811
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812
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,239
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813
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,799
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814
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,319
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815
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,600
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816
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817
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,759
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818
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,560
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819
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,279
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821
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: way to cook? All right? So all right, let's let's

822
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: switch it up a bit. Uh you you play it

823
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: for Tom Petty, You got to play it regally with

824
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Tom Petty. I don't know anyone who loves music, you know,

825
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: just genre lest music that didn't love Tom Petty. If

826
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: you don't love Tom Petty, I don't know what's the

827
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: matter with you? Like to go seek some kind of help.

828
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: It's you know, if you can't find something in some

829
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: of Tom Petty's music that you like, I'm worried about

830
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: you a little bit. When you're you're playing before Tom

831
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: with Tom, did you take a second and like take

832
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: it in when you want on stage? Absolutely? Well, First

833
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: of all, we're wrigley Field. The first first show we

834
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: played with him was at wrigley Field, and so that

835
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: alone would be enough to be like, hey, we're playing

836
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: at wrigley Field. But then you add to the fact

837
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: that we're there with Tom Petty and the heart Wreckers,

838
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: it's you know. That's you know, if you told seventeen

839
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: year old me that that was going down, my head

840
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: would blow up. And and it still felt that way

841
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot. You know, seventeen year old me showed

842
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: up that day, it was like yeah, I was just like, yeah,

843
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: Wrigley Field with Tom Patty sounds great. You still get excited?

844
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Every night it's a new thing, you know,

845
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: because you know, we don't run tracks, we don't do

846
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: any that kind of stuff. So every night anything can happen,

847
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: which is crazy because again it's for the most part,

848
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: it's four people on stage, yes, and you don't want tracks,

849
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It sounds like ten people out there. Well,

850
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: we're just playing and you and you're playing the lead

851
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: and you're singing. I watch it and I'm just like, okay,

852
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: are you are you harsh on? Let's say you're doing

853
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: a solo, will you pick apart? We're like, oh man,

854
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: I really I really screwed that up. Well, I'm gonna

855
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: screw this is this is one thing out of the way.

856
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna screw up a solo at some point in

857
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: a show, and probably two or three solos in the show,

858
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: but hey, it's that way, you know, it's live, and

859
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I've I've learned to just laughing off a little bit,

860
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: you know, and then and then see if I can

861
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: find my way back home, you know. So it's um.

862
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: Soloing is a very new thing to me. Really. Um.

863
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: It's really only something I've started doing, um pretty much

864
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: before the Travel record, because I had two guys in

865
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: the band quit and it got down to me and

866
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: j T and Derek and we had, uh, we had

867
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: three gigs that weekend. I was like, hey, do you

868
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: think we can cover this? And they're like, I don't

869
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: know that you have bass playing a drummer, you really

870
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: don't have many options except to had. It was out

871
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: of necessity that that I started doing, and I was like, well,

872
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: maybe I uncover it, maybe I'll figure something out, and

873
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: then you know, from there, I've I've learned to forgive

874
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: myself my shortcomings as a guitar player and and just

875
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy it because I do enjoy playing guitar.

876
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: I really do, as probably as much as I enjoy

877
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: was saying I enjoy it, so um, you know, maybe

878
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: someday I'll wake up and be a real boy. You know,

879
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: like be a real guitar player. You know, whenever you

880
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: hurt yourself, you just didn't want to sing. You don't

881
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: anybody to come in. Was that a like when you

882
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: hurt your hand, you didn't want to not be able

883
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: to do both. Well, So much of our show is

884
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: is like I said, we don't run tracks. There's not

885
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: a road map necessarily for what we do. A lot

886
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: of it is very much something we've developed over time

887
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna do this here, and you know, like

888
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: Derek Field, things coming when I'm playing that he can catch.

889
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: And so much of our show is that if I

890
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: can't play, we can't do the show because nobody coming

891
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: in is gonna have that um you know understanding of

892
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: the musicianship within the circle of its just not gonna work.

893
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: There's gonna be something different. And I feel like that's

894
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: selling a little short. I don't like that when you

895
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: had to cancel the shows, that suck for you that

896
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: that yeah, well it sucked worse for the people that

897
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: had tickets and plans that did. For me, you know,

898
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: I had to deal with you know, it's still a

899
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: little aggravating to deal with, but you know, I felt

900
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: worse about the people that I was in conveniencing the

901
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: than Yeah, anything I was having to go through, So

902
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: it'd be fine, what's up with these You're gonna play

903
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's that's pretty freaking cool. That is cool.

904
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: I'll say that, be proud of Its pretty freaking cool. Yeah. Man,

905
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: it's what's the Eagles with Vince Gill. So it's just like, yeah,

906
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: you know, I I was trying to talk to somebody

907
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: the other day. You know, I paid, I saved up

908
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: my money and when the healths Over tour was out,

909
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: and I bought me a ticket, my brother a ticket,

910
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: and we were fourth throw up in Charleston, West Virginia,

911
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: and they played for four hours, and to this day

912
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest shows I've been to pay

913
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: for four hours. They played for four hours, They played

914
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: us the Eagles for like two hours, and then the

915
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: Eagles became the house band, so to speak, and they

916
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: played everybody's solo stuff anything you can think of. Yeah,

917
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: that was solo stuff, so that you got the Eagles

918
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: and allers all this stuff. Did you watch the documentary

919
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: on CNN that like the Eagles multi part document you

920
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: ever see? That's the first of all, it's like a

921
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: hundred hours and way better than Face Off. So it

922
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: covers like is it on direct TV on the bus

923
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: and it's probably not on direct TV? Okay, well that's

924
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: on my only entertainment. I don't have TV at home.

925
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you watching? What are you

926
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: more than watch anything fun? But I'm a huge Game

927
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: of Thrones fan. I love Game of Thrones. If I

928
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: have a show, it's that and Walking Down up to

929
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: the point I'm not caught off from Walking Dead yet,

930
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: but those are those are the two shows that I

931
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: have that are TV shows with I watched Game with Hero.

932
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: I watched both of those shows religiously with the Game

933
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: of Thrones, like can they let me ask you too,

934
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: QUI are you caught up? I'm caught off on Game

935
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: of Thrones so we can talk about whatever. So I

936
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: want if you're not caught up, if you're not turning

937
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: turn this off for it just for a second. They're related, right,

938
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: I think? So? No? There were? Yeah? Yeah, it's like

939
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Aunt Knuckle, there's and nephews. How do you feel about that?

940
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: Like do you hope they get to stay together even

941
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: though there's like this, How do you feel about that?

942
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: How do I feel about Yeah? Do you? Because I

943
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: felt like I want them to get to I don't

944
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: care if they're related like that. Well, but I don't

945
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: care like a day you know, they're the same back

946
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: then Jerry Lewis will do it? Holy go it would

947
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Uh what are we even talking about? Um? Yeah, well,

948
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: you know that's a complicated question because they've set up

949
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: a lot of this show not telling you that, and

950
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: you want them to get together. They want you to

951
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: want to get them together, and then they want you

952
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: to feel weird about it because then they give you

953
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: more information and so that's but that's kind of that show.

954
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: I mean there, but they would kill somebody? Yeah, oh man,

955
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: like the Red Wedding. Do you even in the first season?

956
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they killed I was like, has it? I

957
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: thought the show was about him? I thought me too.

958
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm still pissed. Yeah. And it wasn't even the it

959
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: wasn't even the finale of the first season, right, And

960
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what just happened? I kept waiting for

961
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: someone to come in and say these heads on the

962
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: chopping block and yeah, when his head was chopped off,

963
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: I think, like my TV, my my, my charity is

964
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: kind of popped up, like I don't trust TV anymore? Right,

965
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: that was it? The trust was gone at that point.

966
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: Would you like, what is this show actually about? And

967
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: I still kind of don't know. I don't wonder if

968
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: the if the frozen Dragon, you know, and you know,

969
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: there's a whole thing with the frozen dragons and fight

970
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the the other lesson I'm again with on the nerd.

971
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: We could do a whole hour on on Game of Thrones.

972
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: Now we're not going to there, but we could have.

973
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: I could go down the whole rabbit hole with you.

974
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Where are you walking dead? Walking dead? Oh? I don't

975
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: really know. I'm a couple of three episodes into the

976
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: current Okay, so you're pretty close. Then, yeah, I know

977
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: they killed Glenn and then and then maybe may have

978
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: lost me just just this much, you know, just a

979
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 1: little bit when when Glenn got this, don't you feel

980
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: like they have to Sometimes they'll kill the people that

981
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: you really like and don't expect what keeps you on

982
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: your toes. But not I know, Glum's awesome because from

983
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: the beginning, Glen say Rick from inside the freaking tank,

984
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, in Atlanta, back right back in the day. Yeah,

985
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: there's like there's apocalypse type shows like I'm fascinated. Do

986
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: you think you would survive? Probably not, uh, you know,

987
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: just because I don't do enough cardio, so you think

988
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: your physical limitations would If you know, if I had

989
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: to run from zombies, you know, because zombie don't get tired.

990
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I just need to do more cardio, I would love it,

991
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: Like I would love during my life for the world

992
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: to end like that, Like that would be cool for me?

993
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: Are you serious? Well? Just think this world has been

994
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: around for millions of years, right, and if in our

995
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: blink of the time that we're here, we experience the

996
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: end of the zombie apocalypse, whatever it is. If we

997
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: get to experience that, you're not cool, that would be no.

998
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Because I got kid is man? That that's not that

999
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't. You have kids, you would be You would

1000
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: never ever say the words you're saying right now, probably

1001
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: a fair statement because I don't have kids, but you

1002
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: got to. You got twents comment, right, you do. I

1003
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: don't even know. I don't even know what that is.

1004
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't either, So we'll find out. I'll let you know.

1005
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: How's Morgan. She's pregnant? She good? Is she able to

1006
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: sing the same Oh yeah, no, yeah, she's great and

1007
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: you know she gets tired just but that's that's part

1008
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: of it. She's got twenty fingers and twenty toes in

1009
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: they're moving around, that's right. Yeah. I don't even especially

1010
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: when you put it numerically like that, it's like just

1011
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty fingers and twenty toes. I don't even know. Let

1012
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: me play some music here, how about it. I guess

1013
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: some of this not made trying to tangle my mind.

1014
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: Come about this song we want to know about? I

1015
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: guess I kind of want to know, like because I

1016
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: hear your songs and I insert my thoughts into your music,

1017
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: which I think is what music is about. Like absolutely,

1018
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: I was talking about that a different interview. How that's

1019
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: I think that's a purpose of songs. Well, then for

1020
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: you to excuse for you, the listener, to insert yourself

1021
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: into it. Did someone say that to you? Or did

1022
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: you say that to them? Because I said that to them?

1023
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Because then I don't feel stupid because if I'm if

1024
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying something someone else said, I'm just no no

1025
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: no no no, So we're saying cool. So that's why

1026
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: I felt like I feel like songs. We all have

1027
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: our own identity with these songs. Absolutely they exist. You

1028
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: write it for your reason, but I'm able to sign

1029
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: my identity to whatever you wrote. So I've always think

1030
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: just to know what your identity is when you're writing

1031
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: this song. I don't know that I have an identity

1032
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: when I'm writing a song other than I'm trying to

1033
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: write a song. But I think it's good and then

1034
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: the the identity part of it preachs into it on

1035
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: ex you know what I'm saying. Does that make sense?

1036
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: And I'm making just an all like yeah, Like I

1037
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: don't consciously give a song and identity, but because I'm

1038
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: writing the song, whatever part of me is in that

1039
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: song is gonna be there because I wrote the song.

1040
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Is that am I talking? In certain your identity comes

1041
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: out and as it's completed, there you are, but you're

1042
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: not actually building it in any certain ways. Right. I

1043
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: don't sit down and go I'm gonna put myself into

1044
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: this song necessarily, you know, but but it's there whether

1045
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: you like it or not. That's the other part. But

1046
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: it took me a long time to realize is when

1047
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: you write songs, um, you can think you're writing the

1048
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: most fake song ever. But some part of you is

1049
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: gonna slip in there that somebody's gonna go, that was

1050
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: you right there. I had I heard that. That was

1051
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: when such and such was going on, you were writing.

1052
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: I know why you wrote that song. You know, even

1053
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: if you don't know why you wrote that song. So

1054
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: I'll plead ignorance on a lot of it. You know

1055
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: my my favor I told you my favorite. I have

1056
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: to a record, Like if I really love a record,

1057
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: I'll give it a hundred listens a record, and I

1058
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: listened to Volume one a hundred times because it keeps

1059
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: a counting. This song here, I'll tell you this is

1060
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: my This is my favorite song I think that you've

1061
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: ever put out. This is my favorite song that record.

1062
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: I will listen to this song over and over again,

1063
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: like you just I'm gonna tell you what how it

1064
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: makes me feel. Then you tell me how it makes

1065
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: you feel, because I don't want to. I don't want

1066
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: to hear what you say. And then did change with me.

1067
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, like when I hear this song,

1068
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: it sounds like like I hear like Zeppelin, like I

1069
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: hear like the The like old that background. That's what

1070
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I hear here like old Zeppelin types of the guitar volume.

1071
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: It's up, it's higher than your voice at a time,

1072
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: and I love how loud the guitar is to the

1073
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: juxtaposition to your voice. And I think that was on purpose.

1074
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the boys on purpose and I but

1075
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: I think you're sending a message with the with the

1076
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: guitar of the tone and how loud the guitar is.

1077
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: And I hear death throw, I can't look up and

1078
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: up and he's like a place in life when you're like,

1079
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: it's not really done. I don't want to hear death

1080
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: throw their actual prison. Now it's literal to me, but

1081
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: it's like, what's my death throw? Like where am I

1082
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: in my life? Like where I'm in my death throw?

1083
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to minimize anybody's experience on death row

1084
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: by standing it's any of us have anything experience like that,

1085
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: but um, but yeah, certainly we were trying to you know.

1086
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: I wrote this song with Mike Kenderson, who I wrote

1087
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: a lot of songs with and he's a great blues

1088
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: player and this was originally written and more of a

1089
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: blues kind of Robert Johnson style, and that he does

1090
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: he does a lot of great fingerstop blue stuff. I

1091
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: can't really do all that stuff. But we were having

1092
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: a day in the studio with this particular song where

1093
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: we had gotten nothing all day long. We try things, nothing,

1094
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: we try something else that's not it track, something that didn't.

1095
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: We didn't get it, and so it's this is fairly

1096
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: late in the evening and we were all just kind

1097
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: of whipped and Dave started playing what is the kind

1098
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: of opening acoustic look? And it became what all this

1099
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of built around? And I took that song that

1100
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: I've written with Henderson and sang on top of this,

1101
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: and we were very much trying to live in the

1102
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: Led Zeppelin kind of area, you know, because we all

1103
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: love that stuff. And I just like it because to me,

1104
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: when I hear things like this, it makes me feel, um,

1105
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: hopefully it feels badass, you know, like I'm looking for

1106
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: something to feel badass. I like songs that make me

1107
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: feel that way. Um. I'm not saying this in particularly,

1108
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: I'm just saying songs like you here, back in Black,

1109
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: that Back in Black will make you feel a certain

1110
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: way every time. Oh No, it makes me want to

1111
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: fight and I get right and I'll get and I

1112
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: don't know yet, and I still want to fight every time,

1113
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: and I'll get me up every time. That's that's the

1114
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: way it makes me feel. But not in a way

1115
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: that you're gonna actually walk on the door and getting five,

1116
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: but you're like, all right, I'm ready, and things that

1117
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: can get some kind of emotional response out of you

1118
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: like that. Musically, man, that's that's what it's for. That's

1119
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: my favorite song. Yeah, thank you. I hear that, and

1120
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: I go, what's my death throw? Where I'm out in

1121
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: my life and I gotta get off the death row?

1122
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Any what you're writing about? That's what I feel that

1123
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: that's my interpretation. Start telling people that telling me wrote

1124
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: that about me and my death. I wrote that song

1125
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: about Bobby, but go on the record, I wrote that

1126
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: song about Bobby Bones and his personal, definite personal death brow.

1127
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: So if you stopped writing music right now, could you

1128
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: too pop this thing and you just have music come

1129
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: out for the next ten years? Yeah, like, because music

1130
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: still coming out if you if you stop, I don't

1131
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: have things recorded. But no no, But if you stop

1132
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: writing right now, I can stop, right Would you feel

1133
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: comfortable that you have enough quality material that for the

1134
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: next five years you can put out records. That's probably

1135
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: only two records. So yeah, okay, what if you did

1136
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: two records of a year like you did this year?

1137
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: Maybe do you have a song you're sitting on right

1138
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: now that you're just like, man, I can't wait to

1139
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: cut this one next time? Yoh yeah, there's there's several

1140
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, did you have to decide when you

1141
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: cut these two? Was it tough to not put songs

1142
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: on because you love them so much? No, it's never tough,

1143
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: because it's all you always, whatever moment you're in, it's

1144
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: you're like, this is the time to do this right now,

1145
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: I feel like doing this one. You know. It's never

1146
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: tough to me in the moment. You know, if I

1147
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: have to sit down and make a list and do

1148
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I can't do that. My

1149
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: wife is great at that. But in a moment in

1150
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: a day, like what do I feel like playing right now?

1151
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: That's never hard, you know. For me, it's just like, oh, yeah,

1152
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like this, let's just let's just play this. Well,

1153
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: it's set, let's change now to show it based on

1154
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: how you're feeling. Since you're not you's intraction pretty much

1155
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. So you'd be like, you know what,

1156
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: LD crazy? Yeah, so will you write up a new

1157
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: set list every night? I do write a new setings

1158
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: every night, and you know, sometimes they very very little

1159
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: if we feel like we're into crew. But sometimes if

1160
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: you feel like you're getting stagnant in the show, like

1161
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't ever want us to feel too comfortable, to

1162
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: comfortable with the point where you're dolfs like you're going

1163
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: through the motions, because that's bad. Yeah, we're just going

1164
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: through the motions. We're not really focused, right, So we

1165
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: try to try to keep the sets. You know, we'll

1166
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: switch them up, replace songs we haven't played in a while,

1167
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: just to just switch it up. So I listen to

1168
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: Johnson Brothers. Okay, I'm not gonna lie to you his

1169
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: rock and roll. This is rock and roll right here. Yeah,

1170
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: we were trying to play rock? Was this a Was

1171
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: this a rock and roll band? Here? Oh? Yeah? Absolutely nothing? Roll?

1172
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: Like the goal with the Johnson Brothers West to Blank

1173
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: you play rock and roll? Was it to be the

1174
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: biggest rock and roll band in the planet. No, I

1175
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: don't think anybody had delusions of that, but you know

1176
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: it was it was girl play rock and roll and

1177
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, to me, rock and roll for the sake

1178
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: of rock and roll was what rock and roll is,

1179
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: you know. But not that I'm any kind of authority

1180
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: on I like, uh, I like that, you know, still

1181
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: drivers up bluegrass here it is, you know, bluegrass rock.

1182
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's a rock and bluegrass thing. Would

1183
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: you were you've you feel like that's fair this, yeah,

1184
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: but in general, like still you feel like there were Yeah,

1185
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: we lived on the outside edge of what was acceptably

1186
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: called bluegrass, you know, sou And I'm definitely not in

1187
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: any way a traditional gluegress singer. And I'm not telling

1188
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: anybody think they think that they don't already know, but

1189
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we definitely played with the boundaries of what

1190
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: what that means in that band, but not only more

1191
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: than some other guys did before us, you know, Tim

1192
01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: O'Brian deel Scott, New Grass Revival, things like that, Tony Rise,

1193
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: lot a lot of cool. You don't warm your voice

1194
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: up before a show, really, huh, that's so crazy. I

1195
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: might sing a little bit, you know, just mess around

1196
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: with the band, but but you don't really for a

1197
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: for as violent as you sing that would be like, well,

1198
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: I I kind of write the set us a warm up,

1199
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, that's fair. I

1200
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: put the you know, I don't put the the heavy

1201
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: hitter out of the gate. I put something that I

1202
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: can kind of get loose on. What's the heavy hitter

1203
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: for you to sing? When you when you put a song,

1204
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm about to take this one on the

1205
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: heavy hitter. I mean sometimes like Crass always a heavy hit,

1206
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: or h boy, do you hit that? When you play

1207
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: that song, you feel like you have to do that,

1208
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: like you have to do that. Oh yeah, whatever I

1209
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 1: got I mean is gonna get done on that one.

1210
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: That's when people come. If people like that song, that's

1211
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: what they want to hear. I love that song on

1212
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: the record too. When it goes like a studio to

1213
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: live you know that part of the uh in that

1214
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: part of that track where it goes from studio and

1215
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: then at the end of like you know, the clapping, Well,

1216
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: that's just the people that were in the room. Are

1217
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Okay, So in my mind, as you

1218
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: can tell, I know every freaking track, But did you

1219
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: put out that's in people in the room in the

1220
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: studio when you recorded that clapping. Yeah, we cut that track.

1221
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: We had the record done, we had traveled done, and

1222
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: we invited the people to the listening party at our

1223
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: cia and they all had headphones and then we pulled

1224
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: like this thing. We're like, here's what we're gonna do.

1225
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one more. We're gonna finish the record

1226
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: right now, and you're gonna be watching. And so we

1227
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: cut that in front of a bunch of press folks

1228
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: and everything. I had no idea. And that's them. Some

1229
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: of them had headphones on and some of them were

1230
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: just in the room, you know. But the clapping is

1231
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: is those people in the room. I thought that was

1232
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: some kind of weird You did his studio and you

1233
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: you like melded it with the end of a live performance. No,

1234
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: it's an actual live performance with people in the room. Man,

1235
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: did you know that? Look like what you learn when

1236
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: you ask questions? Who knew when you ask questions to

1237
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: learn things? Do you realize how big Chris Stapleton is.

1238
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: I'm go back to sixt right now. No, no, come on,

1239
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: come on, do you like you're the You're the thing?

1240
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,479
Speaker 1: Because and here's why and it's because you don't try

1241
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: to be the thing. It's Isn't it crazy how cool

1242
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: people work, How the coolest people are the ones that

1243
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: don't try to be cool. Uh well, I don't know

1244
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: if I'm one of the coolest people. Okay, you don't

1245
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: have to talk about you, but okay, would you say

1246
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: to the people that you admire the most in creative

1247
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: Land of the people that aren't out there to be

1248
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: admired the most in creative Land? Absolutely? You know. I

1249
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: will say the people that I've met that I believe

1250
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: to be cool definitely are not trying to be cool.

1251
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: And that's what people feel about you. You are the

1252
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in our I'm not eve gonna say

1253
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: you're not even formatty to me, Like, I'm not a

1254
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: format guy. I'm on country radio stations, but I love

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01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: all music and I've done all. I've done rock and

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: sports and pop and country and again. I'm a Kiftain

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01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: Arkansas who grew up listening to Kissing ninety States country

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: radio but also was an alternative kid and a hip

1259
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: hop I sat hip hop record deal you know for

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, so I have all of this, So I

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: don't even consider you in the this you're just a

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01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: country singer, right. I hope that's okay for me to

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01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: say that, because I don't know. I don't like labels either,

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: so you're not bothering me with anything you're saying. But

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: like you are the gold standard now to two artists,

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01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: like everyone's the next, you know, next Michael Jordan, It's

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01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, the next Michael Jordan, is Lebron James, the

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01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: next Michael Jordan. But now everyone is, oh this, this

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01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: is the female version of Chris Stable, and it's the

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01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: next Chris Stable. And you gotta hear something that's gotta

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01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: get back to you, right, No, I don't you know.

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01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't come into town that much. I don't. No,

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't running around talking to people too much. You know.

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01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: When I'm not on the road, I'm out. We bought

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: some land and I'm out in the middle of it.

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: And that's why you're cool. You don't even care. It's

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01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: not that I don't care. I don't want you to

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: say it's no, I don't care. If you don't care

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01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: what I care very much about. I don't care about people.

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01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: That's that was my point. You don't care what people

1281
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: are saying you don't really care about the person you

1282
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: care about putting out what you feel. It feels good, right,

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: you know, and that's the only thing you should care about. Yeah,

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01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: I need to take some lessons from you. This, obviously,

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: in my mind, was about Wizard of Eyes, the movie

1286
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: I have to picture and you're watching Wizard of Eyes.

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: Really no, no, but see now, I'm people are gonna

1288
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: be taking it and like turning the volume off of

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01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: the Wizard Off. So what people don't know is and

1290
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: I guess we waited too pretty close to the end

1291
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: of it to say this and admit this, but volume

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: two you can actually match it up with face off

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01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: and turn faces off on it at the beginning and

1294
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: turned full full circle all the way back around. You

1295
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: feel good like you, You feel like your life right now?

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01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: You feel good? Oh yeah, what makes you happy? What

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: makes me happy? Oh? My kids made me happy, and

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01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: my wife makes me happy. And you know, just getting

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: to play music makes me happy. Playing guitar makes me happy.

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01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: All the folks um I get to work with made

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01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: me happy. So I'm pretty happy, dude. All that that's

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01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: pretty much all of my days right there. So you

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01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: feel like people ask a lot more of you now, absolutely,

1304
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 1: But I mean that's part of that's part of the gig.

1305
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: You mean, just like, do you get more asked to

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: do things or just both? Do you feel like do

1307
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: you feel like at times Chris and Chris Stableton or

1308
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: two different people? Sure, but you know not and and

1309
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: also yes, you know like there's there's a there's a

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: dude that everybody. I don't want to talk about myself

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: on the third person or anything. I think it's fair

1312
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: to in the situation though, because I just asked you

1313
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: that Chris and Chris Stapleton, So I think it's fair to. Yeah,

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01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, on one hand, I'm I'm I'm just a

1315
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: guy who you know, was trying to raise his family

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: and take care of his family and like anybody any

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: other guy would. On the other hand, I'm I'm I'm

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01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: something else or people perceive me to be something else

1319
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: when I'm playing music. I guess that, you know, can

1320
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: sometimes be strange, but it's also you know, like, Okay,

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01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 1: um here's what I got, you know, and and if

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01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: that uh makes people feel good or um, let's people

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01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: have a good time, but forget about some other you know,

1324
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: terriful thing that got going on for a couple of

1325
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: hours at a show, then that's a real hot calling,

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01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to do it. I got another one.

1327
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 1: I still think there's a is a Christaltic conspiracy to

1328
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: one album of the Year two years in a row.

1329
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: That's why I think about a m B. That's why

1330
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,480
Speaker 1: I think Volume one. But that's why I think congratulations.

1331
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: By the way, thank you very much. Do you feel

1332
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: like because I mean, that's probably three roads of before

1333
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: from you and I was I was watching you. Is

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01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: this propectly not your name? Still? Yeah? I mean, do

1335
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: you are you surprised if somebody gives you an award?

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't like awards. I'm not comfortable with them. I

1337
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, you don't know what to say. I don't

1338
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 1: like like. The thing is that when you get an award,

1339
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: like there's the immediate feeling of, oh, I didn't prepare

1340
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: a speech and also I'm gonna say something off the

1341
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: cuff that maybe doesn't make any sense, and then you

1342
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: walk off like oh I forgot this or you know.

1343
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: Um so those things are are funny in those moments,

1344
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, But no, I don't ever expect them. I don't,

1345
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, And someday my not expecting them will come true.

1346
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: So I'll enjoy it while while we have the U

1347
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: I have have our moment, and and when we don't,

1348
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: we'll look back and go, wow, that was that was cool.

1349
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: Two questions and we'll wrap this up. Question one, what's

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01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: your favorite picture you have in your house? My favorite picture? Yeah,

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01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: like you think of your favorite picture? Sure, I have

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: in my house. We're still halfway. Don't have too many

1353
01:10:50,640 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: pictures hanging up out Um yeah, yeah, right now it's

1354
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: probably uh my wife, are you talking like a photograph

1355
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: or just like a photograph memory, like a picture? You're like, man,

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01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 1: I love it when I see that picture, see that picture.

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01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of pictures up in our house.

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: It's it's weird. We have more like art and you know,

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01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: weird uh fines. You know. I used to be like

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01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: a flea market guy, you know, like I have all

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: these odd things. There's a I guess my favorite one

1362
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: is My wife has this little tiny I was probably

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 1: six by four framed picture of a rabbit that was

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: given to her and by her I believe, by her

1365
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: friend Paul Kennedy, or maybe she got it because Paul Kennedy.

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: I guess it's a British thing. The first of every month,

1367
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: you're supposed to say rabbits the first thing when you

1368
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: wake up, right that stuffing Paul does. I don't know,

1369
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: but it reminds her of Paul. And she has this

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01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: little tiny it's supposed to bring you good luck, I guess.

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01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: And so there's this little tiny picture of a rabbit

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: hanging in our house. That's beyond that there I have

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: a plate that there's also a plate that somebody gave

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 1: us for our wedding that's a kind of a full

1375
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: card painting of me and my wife. That's the day

1376
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: we were married, and it's traveled with us everywhere. That

1377
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of hangs in the kitchen. But those are the

1378
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: two that stuck out of my mind. I'm writing m

1379
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: my second book, and it's on adversity, and it's on

1380
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: it's basically a failure and how that the greatest successes

1381
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: are often the people that have failed the most and

1382
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: have continued to get back up but told no, get

1383
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: out dude again. Learn the told no, get up to

1384
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: it again? Learn Was there ever a point and what

1385
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: was the point for you where you were like, man,

1386
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of my low. I don't

1387
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna able to get out of this

1388
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: just mentally. Um. It doesn't really have anything to do

1389
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: with anything professional, but um, um, you know, the day

1390
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 1: that my my dad passed away, I got a call

1391
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Was down there, um taking my kids

1392
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: down there to the beach with their other grandparents, and

1393
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: I got the call my brother Carl. So I took

1394
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: a little walk, kind of soaked that in. And you know,

1395
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: I was there two days prior when we played a show,

1396
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: and uh, you told me goodbye or whatever. I could

1397
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: have stayed. I could have stayed two days. So the

1398
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: biggest regret in there, and I should have stayed. I

1399
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: should have stayed over, but I used some lame excuse

1400
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: like you know what, I got got on the bus,

1401
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: a bus to leaving. You know, I could have figured

1402
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: something out. But so that was a failure in my

1403
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: mind as a you know, a failure of things that

1404
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: I should have done. I don't have any regrets, but

1405
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: I do regret those two days. And for some reason,

1406
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: those two days magically mean more than all the other days.

1407
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: I could have been there saying hello or doing something,

1408
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: but my dad. UM, that's that's probably for me that

1409
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: was a failure. UM as a son, I guess, but

1410
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, you can't get those things back, but you

1411
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: do learn in those moments, you know, in moments to

1412
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: try to not to let the professional um kind of

1413
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: outweigh the personal or steer it more than it should.

1414
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 1: And for me that that that, for me was the lesson.

1415
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's given you balance with your

1416
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: family now and how you balance that? Well, we do

1417
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: our best and we're still very much working on the

1418
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: balance because it's a very UM, it's a demanding thing

1419
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: on your time to go to our likely tour or ah.

1420
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: You know, you know the deal. It's Uh. When you

1421
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: have a moment where you you're enjoying some success, you

1422
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: get UM. And I am not complaining in any way,

1423
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: shape or form, but he gets very hard to say

1424
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: no to things because, UM, for so many years you

1425
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity to even say yes to anything.

1426
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: And then when you get in that moment where there

1427
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: are more things too to have to either say yes

1428
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: or no to than you have time for, it can

1429
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: be an overwhelming thing. But hopefully I'm getting a little

1430
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: bit better saying no to things, UM in lieu of

1431
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, saying no to things under the guys of

1432
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: the preservational sanity and family and UM and just you know, balance,

1433
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: which I think is an important thing. That the people

1434
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: that I admire the most in this business that have

1435
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: long careers I think are balanced people in that they

1436
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 1: can they can turn that professional off for a minute

1437
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: and go enjoy themselves do something they enjoy. I had

1438
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: the hardest time in the world going and just doing

1439
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: something that I enjoy solely for the purpose of me

1440
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: enjoying it. One of the hardest things in wonder for

1441
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: me to do. My wife literally has made me do things.

1442
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: She's like, go do that. You you want to go

1443
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: do that, You'll you'll enjoy it, And she's always right.

1444
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: But I have very little UM, you know, I have

1445
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: a hard time flipping that switch, particularly in the in

1446
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: the moment that we're in. You know, I'm like, well,

1447
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: there's so much opportunity over here for us to do

1448
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: these things that aren't good professionally, but it's not always

1449
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: the healthiest thing, um personally, and so trying to find

1450
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: that balance and UM, I don't know I've gotten off

1451
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: base with the question A little bit probably, but I

1452
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: don't think there is off base with the question. Well,

1453
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 1: let me say this all professional things aside. First, just

1454
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, from a Room one and two and traveler

1455
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:25,520
Speaker 1: and you know, it's just like you changed the landscape,

1456
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: whether you know, I want to admit you have, and

1457
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: I think I know. I appreciate that. And I also

1458
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: appreciate what kind of you bet to me over the years,

1459
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: because you definitely didn't had to have been well and

1460
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: that was specification to you. You've always I mean, you've

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01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: been always nice to me solely on the fact you

1462
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: know that you like me and my music, not because

1463
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: at the time when you were playing things on your

1464
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: show that it wasn't the thing to do. So um,

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01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate that, and I remember that, and I

1466
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 1: was real the first time we talk, you're in the shower.

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: I always you call me at the house at home

1468
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, man, I'm gonna shower. Can I

1469
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: call you right back? I'm like, why not coming right back? Yeah,

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01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: So I appreciate that. I appreciate you. I appreciate you

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01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: and Morgan both. You're always very kind to me. I've

1472
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: said before that we'll be at the biggest, craziest event,

1473
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: and they're famous people everywhere, and you're always like eyeball

1474
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: to eyeball. So well we know each other. So that's different,

1475
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, and that's not you know whatever and all

1476
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, it's just like, man, it's uh,

1477
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, people are good. Good people are good people,

1478
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: and I would rather hang out with good people than

1479
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 1: you know, a terrible person who's famous. You know, That's

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01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: that's just me. Well, I appreciate you, thanks for listen.

1481
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,919
Speaker 1: I know that your favorite thing isn't talking on the microphone.

1482
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: We've just been an hour talking on a microphone. That's okay,

1483
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be here if I didn't want to

1484
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: talk on a microphone with you. So did was this? Uh?

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01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: It's okay. That was great, very comfortable, and you the

1486
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: recliner is a nice is a nice touch. You know.

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01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: I had, I had an alternate band that I wanted

1488
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: to form. Maybe I shouldn't give it away. But if

1489
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: this band ever comes out, it's called recliner. Where you

1490
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: play in a recliner. Are you're just getting lazy? Now?

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: That's a band that's just a lazy band. Yeah, maybe

1492
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 1: it's called lazy. Yeah, that's good to see you, buddy,

1493
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: and I hope you, hope you continue doing it your way,

1494
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: regardless of what cells and what doesn't. Just keep. I

1495
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: hope you just keep. I don't know how to do

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01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: anything else. Chris Stampleton and from a Room, Volume two,

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01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: December one, right, I don't have to know. It's a

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: kind of members going by my brain here December one.

1499
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: And people are gonna hear this way after that too.

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01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: But I hope you get to learn about Chris and

1501
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: go second third layer with that and almost in the NFL.

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01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: That's what I learned, almost not even close. It's good

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01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: to see it. Thank you very much, Chris,