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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. High noon on a Thursday at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Eagles Week continues. There's a football team
Speaker 1: on a football field out here as they work continues,
Speaker 1: and we are inside the SWBC podcast studio and Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola wishes he could be out that door and watching practice, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nerve of McCarthy to push practice back from eleven
Speaker 1: thirty to twelve and our viewing opportunity. Good day, man.
Speaker 1: You know we can do like we did yesterday. We
Speaker 1: run out there doing the break and we're the ones
Speaker 1: that broke the story yesterday. Man, that's very exciting. By
Speaker 1: the way, you need to bring your microphone up just
Speaker 1: a little bit, okay, all right, because I don't like that.
Speaker 1: And we did have the breaking story yesterday, which was
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has decided to play left handed against the Eagles, right,
Speaker 1: you heard it here. First I told her, I told
Speaker 1: her you know what, you really hacked me off. He
Speaker 1: was what I said, you throw the ball left handed
Speaker 1: better than I've ever thrown. It was my right hand now,
Speaker 1: but it was the the you know, the intensity. Right
Speaker 1: we were out there and I'm thinking, Okay, here it is,
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw it. We're gonna see how it looks.
Speaker 1: And each tied me through it. It It was with his
Speaker 1: left hand. I thought that was a great tease. By
Speaker 1: the way, that was too much fun, well, too much.
Speaker 1: He did throw the ball after practice right hand, with
Speaker 1: his right hand and with some authority. By the way,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, Ceedee Lamb gave a quote some velocity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb had a cloth. He said. All looked strong,
Speaker 1: looked good. And when the media was walking out to
Speaker 1: go to the locker room, he was still throwing, and
Speaker 1: I figured it was going to be kind of soft
Speaker 1: toss or whatever. Towards the end when they were walking out,
Speaker 1: he was cutting it loose and uh. Afterwards, uh, somebody
Speaker 1: asked him did he have any pop in his ball?
Speaker 1: And he said, I've always got pop in my ball.
Speaker 1: So and I also got to see the thing he
Speaker 1: was wearing on his on his hand. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's not a like a brace or anything. It's just
Speaker 1: like an elastic rap. I was gonna say it is
Speaker 1: it elastic? Yeah, it's kind of to keep everything tight.
Speaker 1: Said it wasn't you know, offering any protection, just kind
Speaker 1: of something you know, when you hurt something, if you
Speaker 1: just keep it tight. Uh. And he had a screw
Speaker 1: put in there. He had a plate with Okay, so
Speaker 1: that would that would a plate? Yeah, so it would
Speaker 1: make sense you're trying to keep it yeah, yeah, kind
Speaker 1: of secure it ye. So yeah, he was happy, uh
Speaker 1: with the results. And um, you know what I found
Speaker 1: out afterwards, Um, you know we were talking about the snap.
Speaker 1: Got to take the snap and where that pressure hits.
Speaker 1: Someone told me he goes you know, quarterbacks can reverse it,
Speaker 1: put his right hand down in his left hand and
Speaker 1: then just grab the ball. Huh. Would that would that
Speaker 1: compromise anything? And yeah, because you probably wouldn't get in
Speaker 1: the pressure. You probably wouldn't get the laces the way
Speaker 1: you normally would get him right to get in your
Speaker 1: right hand. Yeah. Uh, because the stuff is like yeah,
Speaker 1: but they were kind of doing that with him when
Speaker 1: he was throwing. It wasn't that wasn't light. They weren't
Speaker 1: as we were joking about side sand, right, but he
Speaker 1: was thrown the receivers. I was not anybody trying to
Speaker 1: make a joke, ye, So anyway it was. I assume
Speaker 1: he's going to do the same thing today. And I
Speaker 1: think when he does the quarterback drills before he's gonna
Speaker 1: throw with his right hand, you think he's gonna take it.
Speaker 1: If I'm understanding. Uh no, okay, I mean because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember what I saw he when he was
Speaker 1: thrown to the receivers. I think he was just thrown
Speaker 1: to him like simulating dropped back. But today I will
Speaker 1: go out there and see how long is it open
Speaker 1: to the media? For about twenty minutes, okay, and they
Speaker 1: just opened it up, so I okay, we just need
Speaker 1: to take a break. Take a break there are you
Speaker 1: guys just talk amongst yourself. And I did that very well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is called mix shots, right. You think I need
Speaker 1: to be here just to state the obvious. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that was, however, and we'll see you make sure there
Speaker 1: was no residual effect from the throwing he did. Didn't see.
Speaker 1: That's a good one, right. How does he feel after
Speaker 1: those ye muscles have awakened. Yeah, in his hand because
Speaker 1: he'd been doing some soft toss. But this this was
Speaker 1: kind of cut. Hey, what's happened? What are you doing? So? Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's your Dek Prescott update, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of funny. Clarence Hill asked Mike McCarthy why they
Speaker 1: just didn't act like he was practicing getting ready to
Speaker 1: play so to confuse the Eagles on which quarterback was
Speaker 1: going to start. I wish I had a picture of
Speaker 1: McCarthy's face. He didn't even have to say anything, right,
Speaker 1: it was you know. Uh so it was a good laugh,
Speaker 1: you know. And the funny thing is when they do that,
Speaker 1: we get mad at them, right because they're not leveling
Speaker 1: with us. Now they're leveling with us, and well, I
Speaker 1: earn't you doing the other thing? Right? But I have been,
Speaker 1: you know, listening to the pundits and they have been
Speaker 1: really hard on Dak and the coach. I don't know
Speaker 1: where Chris's doing back there. That's Chris. He dropped, he
Speaker 1: dropped something. So I'm very always curious to hear how
Speaker 1: each channel, each pundit talks about this little quarterback controversy.
Speaker 1: We have you know, that's what they want to call it.
Speaker 1: They want this to be a quarterback controversy because if
Speaker 1: he keeps on winning, then they think they should sit
Speaker 1: Dak longer and longer. It's not about waiting till Dak
Speaker 1: is ready. It's about not ruining the momentum and the
Speaker 1: momentum that we have at this point. And and my
Speaker 1: thing is this, when you look at Dak Presscott team,
Speaker 1: what you've seen is a quarterback that couldn't rely on
Speaker 1: the defense. They didn't allow him to even play to
Speaker 1: his defense. We played to the running game, but we
Speaker 1: have never had played to our defense. And so as
Speaker 1: much as we talk about how Cooper Rush is doing
Speaker 1: a great job, and we talk about stats like quarterback
Speaker 1: rating and all of that, but man, if you look
Speaker 1: at numbers, look at number passes thrown, you look at
Speaker 1: the games played, it's really no comparison in regards to experience.
Speaker 1: And that's just something that everyone is just that they're
Speaker 1: trying to fit this round ball into this round peg
Speaker 1: into a square peg, and it's it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: This is a different team, it's a different game from
Speaker 1: last year, right, And that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: As we played the games differently now, not just because
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is here, but because our defense is so
Speaker 1: damn good. So when you start talking about it, and
Speaker 1: that's the game playing in the off season, no matter
Speaker 1: who was the quarterback, Dak was a quarterback, that was
Speaker 1: the emphasis that the coaching staff had the changes that
Speaker 1: they were going to make this year because they had
Speaker 1: confidence that the defense was going to continue to grow
Speaker 1: off on a nice year last year, and that that's
Speaker 1: how they need to win games. So as soon as
Speaker 1: someone starts talking about a quarterback controversy, mickey do, I
Speaker 1: need to go back to my stat from the last win,
Speaker 1: which is for the Cowboys won a game with ten
Speaker 1: first downs. It was the first time in over a
Speaker 1: half century that they have won a football game with
Speaker 1: ten first downs or fewer in a game. So and
Speaker 1: so the point is they need to keep the same
Speaker 1: type philosophy on offense once Dak is back. So today's
Speaker 1: birthday boy Jerry Jones turning eighty mentioned use that term boy.
Speaker 1: Very yes man, when you're eighty plus years you probably
Speaker 1: wouldn't be mine being called a boy at eighty, right?
Speaker 1: You think he blows out candles? I don't know right.
Speaker 1: That was a story today on the morning news, and
Speaker 1: they didn't mention if he blows the candles out, though
Speaker 1: they mentioned he eats carrot cake, oh nic with a
Speaker 1: lot of icing. So when he was talking on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and he pointed out when you have a highly uh
Speaker 1: skilled uh and quarterback like we do. Uh, he went
Speaker 1: on to say that and thank goodness, we are successful
Speaker 1: not having that dimension meaning the ability to get and
Speaker 1: he went on about, you know, when you're third and fifteen,
Speaker 1: can you throw a twenty yard pass and be successful
Speaker 1: because that's what Dak does. And he said, uh, not
Speaker 1: having that dimension meaning and when you get it back
Speaker 1: that will be a real additive, will be a mess
Speaker 1: if we can keep playing defense like this, so they understand.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like God bless Cooper Rush. You know, somehow,
Speaker 1: some way we're figuring out to win with ten first downs.
Speaker 1: But when Dak's ready to go, we got other dimension
Speaker 1: out there on the field. Point point two. Hm. This
Speaker 1: is always being compared to the Tony Bomo Dak Prescott exchange. Yeah, sixteen,
Speaker 1: that was that was eleven games and counting right, it's
Speaker 1: not four or four games, right, uh. And and so
Speaker 1: and um, I think they were somewhat worried about we
Speaker 1: put Romo back in there is is he going to
Speaker 1: stay healthy? Are we going to have to continue this?
Speaker 1: And I think they Yeah, the nature of Romo's injury, yeah,
Speaker 1: and recent injury history and what part of the body
Speaker 1: we're talking like his back, Yeah, I think that had
Speaker 1: something to do with it. And the contract. Right, well,
Speaker 1: that's a similar situation then, right, Yeah, that that would
Speaker 1: make it the same. I don't think that's I don't
Speaker 1: think that is going to retire next year and go
Speaker 1: the podcast regardless. So at the age of the players
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, where they are in their career.
Speaker 1: Jerry also has mentioned that when they went into the
Speaker 1: playoffs with Dak playing, that they had the least experienced
Speaker 1: playoff quarterback in the playoffs that year, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think he felt like it might have showed up
Speaker 1: although they were in the game, right, what's the game
Speaker 1: you're talking the playoff lostwenty sixteen. Yeah, yeah, man, that
Speaker 1: was an amazing That was one of the Dak's best games.
Speaker 1: I mean, he put thirty points on the board and
Speaker 1: he came back yards in the last minute and he
Speaker 1: drove he he that was his game winning drive, right,
Speaker 1: but we just couldn't hold them up. That was his
Speaker 1: game winning drive that game right there made me so
Speaker 1: mad because that particular year, Aaron Rodgers had committed two
Speaker 1: um Hail Mary's and he did it almost with the
Speaker 1: same move, and that was to get outside outside the
Speaker 1: defensive end and and and buy more time. Was was
Speaker 1: the game Monday night? Green game? Was Sunday? No? No?
Speaker 1: This this? Oh this week when they played on TV?
Speaker 1: Was it Monday night game or Sunday night game? I
Speaker 1: forgot when Green Bay played that would be that was
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, Sunday morning, Sunday morning. Yeah, So I had
Speaker 1: a flashback. They got the ball back, they're's trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of move it, and there he goes
Speaker 1: shotguns snap, he bailed out and rolled to his left,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, oh, that looks familiar, right, And this
Speaker 1: time he overthrew the It looked familiar to me. Back
Speaker 1: in two thousand, I think that was eighteen. Was it
Speaker 1: the calendar year eighteen when we when we played Green
Speaker 1: Bay in the playoffs? No, it was sixteen. It was sixteen.
Speaker 1: Did they make it to the calendar year of seventeen,
Speaker 1: Wells fifth fourteen, which year, sixteen, sixteen sixty not the kids, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that we're talking here at home, right right. I
Speaker 1: saw the Cook when it was the throw to the
Speaker 1: tight end. Jerry Cook. Yeah, yeah, I hate that guy
Speaker 1: to this day. Man of a player, man the hell
Speaker 1: of a player. And he always he always hurts us.
Speaker 1: And oh we had a rush goo we had we
Speaker 1: had a spy, if I'm not mistaken, we had a
Speaker 1: spy on him. So a line I cant remember who
Speaker 1: the linebacker was for us, but they came up the
Speaker 1: middle of they came to the outside and they didn't
Speaker 1: protect the outside shoulder of the quarterback. He spun out
Speaker 1: to the left, just like you said. And then there's
Speaker 1: Cook wide open. For some reason, the safety he's coming
Speaker 1: up on Badgers. Why I mean, I think, if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, that was a third in double digit yards
Speaker 1: for a first down. He decides to come up on Bodgers.
Speaker 1: Cook is wide open on the side. Well, the corner
Speaker 1: was underneath and the safety was over the top, and
Speaker 1: they didn't squeeze it enough. And and not only does
Speaker 1: he complete it, it's a toe tapper on the sideline
Speaker 1: and get but what we all forget it. And I
Speaker 1: think it was Randy Gregory. He got tackled from behind
Speaker 1: when when he was started bailing out to his left,
Speaker 1: offensive lineman grabbed Gregory from He's gonna sack him, all right,
Speaker 1: one other note, and we're gonna go break because you
Speaker 1: need to go cha. That's right, Jack. But you look
Speaker 1: at the continent. Comparing this with twenty sixteen. Again, I
Speaker 1: looked up the contract what's left on the contract of
Speaker 1: each play. Romo had eighteen million dollars left on his
Speaker 1: contract because they paid deadcap money in twenty seventeen was
Speaker 1: ten points something million and eight points something million in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Okay, Dak scot after this year eighty nine
Speaker 1: million dollars. So that is why Cooper Rush can have
Speaker 1: the he can win eleven straight games. Okay, he can
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, and he's still he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback next year because otherwise you're paying
Speaker 1: that kind of money to your quarterback where he might
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback in Carolina. Yeah, I mean Cooper
Speaker 1: is going to be someplace else if he does that, right,
Speaker 1: because the commitment is to Dak. So there you go,
Speaker 1: and I'll give you a Philadelphia injury update when we
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Speaker 1: Good job, A nice How about that? That was good?
Speaker 1: Is that like a duet? All right? So what y'all
Speaker 1: see on the practice field? Nothing? The quarterbacks. Quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: doing quarterback school indoors inside it was too good to
Speaker 1: be true. I do it, so we saw. What do
Speaker 1: you into that? Yeah, they're trying to cover it up.
Speaker 1: They're trying to buy how much he's doing. Uh huh.
Speaker 1: They're just making the Philadelphia nervous, that's all They're making
Speaker 1: them making them making him study for two different quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to do the same thing today, do
Speaker 1: the quarterback warm up thing and then throw after practice. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've had enough tack talk all right, let me give
Speaker 1: you an we've never said that. So on the official
Speaker 1: practice report for injuries Philadelphia Eagles, the Eagles did not
Speaker 1: practice Wednesday. They don't think they need to practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they must think they're really good they need to practice.
Speaker 1: So the practice report is an estimation. Well on their
Speaker 1: estimation for Wednesday limited practice. Four of their starting five
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are listed as limited. Landon Dickerson, Jason what
Speaker 1: injury is an ankle? Ankle? Okay, Jason Cows Kelsey ankle,
Speaker 1: Isaac sayomalu uh ankle, and Jordan may Latta shoulder. That's
Speaker 1: four fifths of their starting offensive line. And the one
Speaker 1: that I read, uh in some report I think was
Speaker 1: the newspaper or whatever it was, landed they were worried
Speaker 1: about Dickerson and Kelsey the most well, Meilana had did
Speaker 1: not play last game and he only played six snaps
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville a week before. Okay, so they're probably thinking
Speaker 1: if if he is not, if they're not worried about him,
Speaker 1: they mean that means that they're not expecting to play,
Speaker 1: probably unless they right. Since he's on the report, so
Speaker 1: they're he's limited. And then cornerback Avante Maddox limited with
Speaker 1: an ankle. Uh. And there was one running back, Kenneth Gainwell,
Speaker 1: they use him a little bit. He's got a rib
Speaker 1: injury and linebacker. I believe he's a backup Patrick Johnson concussion.
Speaker 1: But I didn't realize this. So their kicker, Cameron Dicker,
Speaker 1: he was the special team the kicker, right, he was
Speaker 1: the NFC Special Teams Player of the week. Now what
Speaker 1: did he do? Kick two field goals and the winner
Speaker 1: from twenty three yards. Wow, that's a challenge. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: all those yes, I mean the original extra point, the
Speaker 1: same twenty yards was the original sod and all these
Speaker 1: close games kicking four field this guy kicks two. Right.
Speaker 1: So Jake Elliott, their regular kicker, has missed the last
Speaker 1: I think one or two games with a right ankle,
Speaker 1: and it was against Jacksonville, so that that two games ago,
Speaker 1: just two games ago. So he missed last week. So
Speaker 1: Dicker is on the practice squad and they elevate them.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if they have to do it again
Speaker 1: this week. But it's a different story when you're Sunday
Speaker 1: night football, right, I'll tell you what's going to be
Speaker 1: a great challenge. I mean, we talked about trying to
Speaker 1: run the game, run the ball. That's gonna be tough
Speaker 1: on it because Philadelphia's run game is real well. Do
Speaker 1: they play real well? Of course, we're still going to
Speaker 1: force that on them as far as our game plan.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the secondary of the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: I think they're damn good, especially their cornerbacks. I have
Speaker 1: seen them play very well against some top notch receivers
Speaker 1: and they have done a very good job. And even
Speaker 1: when a receiver catches the ball, it was just like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys versus the Bucks in the opening game. They
Speaker 1: are tight and you're gonna have to put it in
Speaker 1: there in a tight window against these cornerbacks. So Cooper
Speaker 1: is gonna really have to rely on that play action
Speaker 1: to get these guys open. But if you ain't running
Speaker 1: the ball well, and you've got that big boy from Georgia,
Speaker 1: what's his name, Davis? Jordan Davis, who played the most
Speaker 1: naps of the season last year with twenty nine. Last
Speaker 1: week I said last year, sorry, uh, twenty nine snaps.
Speaker 1: So they were saying he's starting to play and he
Speaker 1: had three solo tackles, so he's a load. So they
Speaker 1: are cornerbacks James Bradberry, Darius Slay and and then I
Speaker 1: mentioned Maddocks U and one of their backups, Josh Job,
Speaker 1: is listed as Uh. He did. He would not have
Speaker 1: practiced yesterday for the Cowboys, by the way, um did
Speaker 1: not practice Micah Parsons, but they expected him to work
Speaker 1: in to practice today on a limited basis. Uh. DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence chest he's got ribbed thing. Uh, he was limited,
Speaker 1: but they felt like he would do the same thing
Speaker 1: today as he did yesterday. And it's well when he
Speaker 1: ran into Dave Edwards when they collided, remember, and they
Speaker 1: brought out the stretcher and then both of them kind
Speaker 1: of walked off. Uh, Dave Edwards, David Edwards, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: not not the Cowboy line, but going on guard Edwards,
Speaker 1: it was I yes, yeah, no, but he was his
Speaker 1: back fifty years right. And then the other guy that
Speaker 1: didn't practice was Recal Dowdle. Uh. So we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there. In Dalton, Schultz is listed as limited as
Speaker 1: had been um ferguson last week, right, and he's still
Speaker 1: he was listed as full this week. But that was
Speaker 1: those two guys. Their concern is why they signed the
Speaker 1: seth Green Green right? Who is Alan high school? Ye
Speaker 1: got one faster than wait, he was gonna say, he
Speaker 1: got his call college college? Uh, University of Houston. Very good.
Speaker 1: Did Michael try? What what team was he with in
Speaker 1: training camp? Now you got me? Okay, they didn't go
Speaker 1: very funny. They signed a guy so he didn't have
Speaker 1: to pay travel. And I understand there was two reasons
Speaker 1: for it. One was the opportunity to sign a very
Speaker 1: athletic tight end and two somewhat out of necessity because
Speaker 1: they felt like Ferguson and Schultz probably wouldn't do much
Speaker 1: practicing and they needed another body to help facilitate practice
Speaker 1: as a tight end. So he's on the practice squad.
Speaker 1: But they're taking a chance on somebody that was very
Speaker 1: athletic in high school. You was a quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him plays. I know that we haven't
Speaker 1: had many past attempts, right compared to what we accustomed to. UH.
Speaker 1: And as you look at our targets, not any tight
Speaker 1: end targets, and we're going we're going to meet I
Speaker 1: would tight end in Dalton Shultz in his free agent year.
Speaker 1: He's not getting the ball. Well, you can tell he's
Speaker 1: limping them ound out there. Oh no, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but they have to help him up after every play.
Speaker 1: Well he's blocking, he's one of the path paths. He's
Speaker 1: got nine catches so far for eighty yards, and we
Speaker 1: are going to need what about the entire tight end
Speaker 1: and the only position. I want to say, he only
Speaker 1: got like ten snaps in the game. We're gonna got
Speaker 1: ten snaps against the Rams, one target. He had three
Speaker 1: targets against Washington and fifteen fifty five snaps ill tight
Speaker 1: ends overall, it's still not much better than that. I
Speaker 1: know that we had a most success I think against
Speaker 1: the Giants when we're just throwing the ball to us.
Speaker 1: Peter shot no targets against the Rams, and Ferguson was
Speaker 1: no targets. Well, I'll give you two reasons for that.
Speaker 1: One the running the ball a little bit more, and
Speaker 1: two that a lot of times keeping both tight ends
Speaker 1: in pass protection. We and now Philly knows this. You understand,
Speaker 1: we are going to have to do something to counter
Speaker 1: that because they're going to make us do that, and
Speaker 1: they're going to try and shut down our wide receivers
Speaker 1: and make Cooper Rush beat us some kind of way.
Speaker 1: They're gonna stack the line. You know that they're gonna
Speaker 1: stack the line to make us do play action because
Speaker 1: they are not going to allow us to run the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll get one hundred and sixty three
Speaker 1: yards rush you not, it would if we do that.
Speaker 1: We do that this game. You got a W. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have a W. So you these are the things
Speaker 1: that they need to be aware of. Tight Ends are
Speaker 1: going to have to be more prevalent in our passing game.
Speaker 1: That's just the way they is now. If you don't
Speaker 1: want the tight ends, there's going to have to be
Speaker 1: them or the running backs, because the wide receivers they
Speaker 1: are going to have issues this weekend. Would you like
Speaker 1: some more information on Seth Green, who is added to
Speaker 1: the practice flat. This is very much a developmental tied end.
Speaker 1: In fact, that's why after he was cut by the Texans,
Speaker 1: he wasn't on their practice squad, so he was out
Speaker 1: there and no team picked him up. But obviously the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are intrigued by him, brought him in vera work
Speaker 1: out like what they saw, and so forth. Going back
Speaker 1: to Alan High school, he had been he was there
Speaker 1: just for one year his senior year at Allen. He
Speaker 1: transferred in from the Minnesota and he did play quarterback
Speaker 1: through nineteen touchdown passes and averaged eight point six yards
Speaker 1: to carry with ten touchdown runs, led him to state
Speaker 1: championship game his senior year there. But even at Houston,
Speaker 1: he first went to University of Minnesota for four years.
Speaker 1: His last year there very limited statistically, and then in
Speaker 1: one year at Houston twelve games that tied end with
Speaker 1: thirteen catches. So my point on all that is, he's
Speaker 1: not a guy. Yeah, he's a developmental guy, right, and athletic,
Speaker 1: and that was the thing they saw. The plus when
Speaker 1: he transferred to Houston, he had to graduate, and he
Speaker 1: graduated and showed up at Houston. I read in like
Speaker 1: August sixth of that summer. He graduated and then he
Speaker 1: got to Houston, so there wasn't much time to acclimate
Speaker 1: to play in tight end. So there you go. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get back to that second. Well, no, we got
Speaker 1: to take a break for when we come back. Let's
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Speaker 1: we touched on it a little bit last segment, but
Speaker 1: you do think that the Cowboys will need to throw
Speaker 1: for more than one hundred and two yards in this game?
Speaker 1: Do you think? What? Do you think they're going to
Speaker 1: have to throw for more than what? Twelve passes? Ten? Sixteen,
Speaker 1: sixteen passes? Yeah? Yeah, he's gonna have to He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw twenty plus times, no doubt about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how confident are you against this Philly defense. I
Speaker 1: am not very confident at all in stopping the pass
Speaker 1: rush or getting receivers open. I'm not worried about the
Speaker 1: pass rush as much as I'm worried about getting receivers open.
Speaker 1: They're going to try the game plan a coup of rush,
Speaker 1: and no one's had a People have done a pretty
Speaker 1: good job at it. But our defense has given them putting, putting,
Speaker 1: putting him in some good positions. So it's allowed him
Speaker 1: to overcome any game playing against him. But when you
Speaker 1: have physical matchup, that's something it's hard to game plan.
Speaker 1: You can't design a way for Ceedee Lamb to get
Speaker 1: away from slay. Ceedee Lamb is gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: that out for himself. He's gonna have to know what
Speaker 1: his best routes are if you've got Maddox, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be in the slot. You know, whoever he's going in
Speaker 1: the slot, they're gonna have to win the battle. You know,
Speaker 1: there are times when you have to rely on your
Speaker 1: player to win the matchup. And they match up well
Speaker 1: against our receivers. They matched it well against all receivers
Speaker 1: they come up against so far this season. But when
Speaker 1: you have three cornerbacks that can cover, well, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: If we had it in New York with the Giants
Speaker 1: when I came in, you you go from having two
Speaker 1: cornerbacks to having three starting cornerbacks and you can play
Speaker 1: all types of coverages on third downs, in passing downs.
Speaker 1: The running game is gonna be stifled. They're gonna, as
Speaker 1: I said earlier, they're gonna stack the line. So we
Speaker 1: gotta be as concerned. I think I wouldn't say concerned
Speaker 1: over there. I think we need to be as predictable
Speaker 1: as possible and allow our defense to win this game
Speaker 1: with us, not for us, but with us. So this
Speaker 1: this game reminds me of the nineteen ninety one season
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys went up there and clinched the playoff spot.
Speaker 1: And you know, Jimmy Johnson's I think Nate was with
Speaker 1: us when we talked about it A little bit pointed
Speaker 1: out to Steve Burline, who was starting his second second,
Speaker 1: third consecutive game after Troy got hurt. When they beat
Speaker 1: Washington twenty four twenty one. I think it was the
Speaker 1: it was the Sunday, It was the Sunday School, it
Speaker 1: was the somebody, it was the Sunday beat. No, if
Speaker 1: I wanted to show off, I'll say I picked that
Speaker 1: score for the Washington the only time I've ever got
Speaker 1: a score right, by the way. Um, So they ended
Speaker 1: up beating Washington. Burline came in in the second half,
Speaker 1: and then they beat the Steelers on Thanksgiving. They beat
Speaker 1: the Saints the next game when the Times Harold went
Speaker 1: out of business, by the way, Oh that's why you remember.
Speaker 1: And then they had they had to go to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and because somebody lost on Saturday, if they won Sunday,
Speaker 1: they were going to clinch the playoffs. Well, if you
Speaker 1: remember the first time around against Philadelphia that year, Philadelphia
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys at Texas Stadium twenty four to nothing,
Speaker 1: and they sacked Troy Aikman eleven times. So basically Jimmy
Speaker 1: and North Turner told Burline, I don't care if you
Speaker 1: don't complete a pass, do not get sacked, and don't
Speaker 1: throw an interception. I think, if I remember correctly, he
Speaker 1: threw eleven consecutive in completions in the first half. He
Speaker 1: was over eleven and he finished halftime two for seventeen.
Speaker 1: And they were and they were in the game, and
Speaker 1: then it was a you'll never guess what the score was.
Speaker 1: I think it was like ten to nine or something. Nope, nope,
Speaker 1: halftime score was ten to five, ten to five. Cowboys
Speaker 1: got out to a five nothing lead in the first
Speaker 1: quarter and then gave up ten points in the second
Speaker 1: ten five, ten to five, and Nate Newton said he
Speaker 1: gave up the only sack that day. Yeah. And so
Speaker 1: the key point in the game was Kelvin Martin's I
Speaker 1: think it was eighty five yard punt return. Cowboys were
Speaker 1: down ten to eight fourth quarter and Kelvin Martin went
Speaker 1: eighty five yards. I wasn't even on the team then,
Speaker 1: I was playing with another squad. I was. I just
Speaker 1: thought that was the coolest punt return. And the last
Speaker 1: block was by ikelt who picked off I don't remember
Speaker 1: who it was. The guy never saw him coming. He
Speaker 1: was chasing Kelvin Martin in here penalty today. Yeah, he comes,
Speaker 1: he comes, circled back around and just cold cocks the guy.
Speaker 1: And they won the game. And that was I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. They threw for one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yards that game, one hundred forty five. And see this
Speaker 1: is a good chan Emmett. Emmett had a decent day, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was twenty five or seventy five. Now, that was good.
Speaker 1: He was gonna see this week, right, that's how he's go.
Speaker 1: That's the game right again? Huh and so big win. Um,
Speaker 1: there was a goot, chit go ahead. There was another
Speaker 1: key to that victory. Who was starting at quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Eagles that day. Jeff Kemp. Jeff Kemp. Yeah that helped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this ain't Jeff Kemp hurts the congressman. I'm looking to
Speaker 1: see if he's related to Jack Kemp. Now it is
Speaker 1: his father as Jack Kemp. You go it, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: knew Jack Kemp's son, Jeff Kemp. Try, I think I did.
Speaker 1: He was the back up to be Is it random
Speaker 1: I was cutting him? Wasn't it probably Cunningham? Yeah? Because
Speaker 1: cutting him I remember Cunningham the playoff game in ninety two,
Speaker 1: cutting him as a quarterback, right and well, and ninety
Speaker 1: two Cowboys went to Philly and that was the much
Speaker 1: Ballyhood Monday night game where I can fast forward in
Speaker 1: my um Cowboys. Were they unbeaten? Was it a battle
Speaker 1: of unbeaten things? They were both unbeaten at that time,
Speaker 1: I remember, And it was a Monday night game. Whether
Speaker 1: there was like it was a four on fourth down,
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no no, no no no, And
Speaker 1: there was like a surface that was that was Switzer.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody in Philadelphia. Nobody in Philadelphia worked
Speaker 1: that money. But now Switzer was ahead of time. Now
Speaker 1: everybody goes forward on fourth down. There nothing going forward
Speaker 1: on fourth and fourth and one. Why don't you just
Speaker 1: put the ball? Why are you doing here? But in
Speaker 1: ninety two that was the money night game. Was its
Speaker 1: thirty one seven was the final? Cowboys were three and
Speaker 1: oh going into that game. I remember I went to uh.
Speaker 1: I was there all week leading up to it. This
Speaker 1: shows the changing times in the media. We actually I
Speaker 1: was working for Channel five, sent a TV crew there
Speaker 1: on Monday that week. We were there the entire week,
Speaker 1: got the Eagles locker room on Wednesday and did stories
Speaker 1: all around town and everything. I think what I think
Speaker 1: I got there Friday because I remember makes sense getting
Speaker 1: an on on Monday break the playing the money in
Speaker 1: the airplane ticket was cheaper on Friday, and it was
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Cowboys got blitzed that day. And the reason
Speaker 1: I brought it up. Cowboys lost that game thirty one seven,
Speaker 1: and then uh, a few weeks later beat Philly at home,
Speaker 1: and then first round of the playoffs beat Philadelphia thirty
Speaker 1: four to ten, and that was they were all over.
Speaker 1: If I remember, was it that here or was it
Speaker 1: green Bay? The assistant coach suffered a later, Phil Haskell,
Speaker 1: it was green Bay. Yeah, that was green Bay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you when you look at this and you
Speaker 1: talk about the close coverage by the cornerbacks on the
Speaker 1: wide receivers, you know Dak has seen it, and any
Speaker 1: quarterback that has seen it. That's why you fall in
Speaker 1: love with your tight end. That's your safety, that's your
Speaker 1: safety net. And right now we haven't used I was
Speaker 1: where we haven't really had to use it. There was
Speaker 1: times we could have used it, but our defense bailed
Speaker 1: us out once again. The theme here is, guys, your
Speaker 1: defense can only save you so many times. And I
Speaker 1: love our defense, but they're going to be a game
Speaker 1: to where we're going to have to use our safety.
Speaker 1: Next Dak uses it, My homes uses it. All good
Speaker 1: quarterbacks know how important that safety that is. That tight end, well,
Speaker 1: they got to exercise that. They got a hope that
Speaker 1: Chultz is healthy because it's three games stretched now. He
Speaker 1: got hurt in one game, he missed the next game,
Speaker 1: he got bad. He has not looked good. He got
Speaker 1: back this last game and hurt his knee again. You
Speaker 1: can see it. So they gotta hope he's healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, throwing to the tight end, throwing to the
Speaker 1: running back. Cowboys last game. Okay, Now, not only did
Speaker 1: they only have ten first downs and win a game,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won that game without a running back or
Speaker 1: tight end catching a pass. The only one team has
Speaker 1: gone without a catch from a running back or a
Speaker 1: tight end and the last ten seasons. The Bills did
Speaker 1: it last year to win over the Falcons. John Archer
Speaker 1: had that tweet the other day. We have a defense
Speaker 1: of what I mean all that You've read out some
Speaker 1: stuff about this last game that come on, man, they
Speaker 1: are so good. I just don't want us to drain
Speaker 1: that cup, all right. I want us to have something
Speaker 1: left at the end of the at the end of
Speaker 1: the year, so that they can Actually, we're going to
Speaker 1: need them, this is every team. We're going to need
Speaker 1: them to turn it up even more by the time
Speaker 1: this season is over with, if we want to be
Speaker 1: the team that we think we should be. Chlch got
Speaker 1: one target last week Sunday, that's it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he got hurt, and then they didn't throw anything to
Speaker 1: a tight end. Yeah, and Hendershot ended up being now
Speaker 1: that I want to see the the tight ends. I
Speaker 1: believe it was a Giants game. Yeah, where we had
Speaker 1: down and he looked good. Yeah. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the running backs had no targets in the game either.
Speaker 1: They should have had one. He uh rushed forced one
Speaker 1: to the outside on third down to uh gallop. He
Speaker 1: was never open and and Zeke was underneath. If he
Speaker 1: dumped it to him, it would have been an easy
Speaker 1: first down. So he threw over Zeke's head. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: there's the game plan. We got it, we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just I didn't hear much optimism in this well,
Speaker 1: we'll go. I mean, can you imagine if let's pretend
Speaker 1: that we're the we're the coaches meeting right now, and
Speaker 1: so Kellen Moore just said, there's the game plan, we
Speaker 1: got it, and we do Oka crickets. That's when you
Speaker 1: were here in that locker room. Well, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna take Clarence's spot and tell him, Mike, here's your
Speaker 1: game plan? Right? Is that what he did? Well, he
Speaker 1: was telling them, you know, why are you telling us that?
Speaker 1: You know, Dack's not going to play. Clarence is just
Speaker 1: used to watching his long haul. And so they went
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. They went a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: pretending that this Quinn yours character was gonna play in
Speaker 1: a game, and he didn't play until this week. And
Speaker 1: then uh, and then Oklahoma and the pregame warmups had
Speaker 1: their concussed quarterback all suited up like he was gonna
Speaker 1: play in the game, and then he came out in
Speaker 1: shorts and they didn't feel a quarterback in the game. Um,
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: pregame warmups, all right, do you really think you're fooling
Speaker 1: the other team. What difference does it make at the
Speaker 1: quarterback think he was fooling the other team? Well, nothing,
Speaker 1: It worked for one play. What play was that? It wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: it didn't didn't work at all? All right? That does
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