1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Hi, Diamond, Hi Gandhi, it's episode I think this might 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: be episode ten. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: We're into the double digits. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 3: Baby, I'm into it. I'm into it. 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Congrat thanks, congrats to us. You're part of this. I 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: hope you get paid for it. Yeah, I hope so too. Okay, 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: I should look into that at some point, I guess. 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: So today I'm really excited because we have on Ben 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Bolin and Noel Brown, who are the guys that do 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: the stuff they don't want you to know podcasts and 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: like a bunch of other podcasts, and that means they 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: talk about conspiracy theories, which I could get high and 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: talk about conspiracy theories all day long. 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: There are so many. 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: But if I know Diamond, and I think I do, 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: you probably have a handful in your back pocket. We 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: already know you aren't one hundred percent sure about dinosaurs. 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't do that podcast change your mind at all? 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 3: Kind of no, is it? 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: Okay? 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: It was like, okay, well. 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 5: I think that once we are talking about the fact 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: that we really don't know what they looked like and 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 5: reptor from the Regrets is like completely out of plate, 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 5: Like it's just no. I think that I'll open up 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 5: to it, and that conversation was good because he basically 27 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 5: confirmed that. 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: We really don't know what they really looked like. 29 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so tell me about a conspiracy theory that 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: you believe. 31 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,279 Speaker 2: You're like, all in on. 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: I don't think that we ever landed on the damn Moon. 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 5: I'm sorry. 34 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry. 35 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Are you sorry? 36 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: Uh? 37 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 5: No, I'm not because I need more Okay, I need 38 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 5: more answers. 39 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 3: I need Why haven't we been back? 40 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: You know, well we just went back recently, right, but 41 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: well not hum never landed again, gotten off of the 42 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: damn spaceship and chilled in a crater. 43 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: As if it was a hammock, Like I want pictures 44 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: of that. 45 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So what makes you think aside from the fact 46 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: that we haven't done it since, are there other things 47 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: that make you think we haven't landed on the moon? 48 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 5: Nokay. To me, that's the biggest thing. We have all 49 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 5: this money and we're not going back to the moon. Oh, 50 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 5: it's expensive. We waste money on everything, but we won't 51 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 5: waste money on making sure that we go back to 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: the Moon and actually come back with actual concrete evidence 53 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 5: this time. 54 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: If they came back with it, would you believe it. 55 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, okay, you know we'll have to like live 56 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: stream like Instagram. 57 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: Well, we have the technology to do that, so yes, 58 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: like give me more, you know, and then people die 59 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 5: going to the moon after this first one happened. 60 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it doesn't check out. 61 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: But that's like saying I drove a car once, so 62 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: you should never get an accident. 63 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Like shit happens. 64 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: But why haven't we succeeded again. 65 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: The second question. We're gonna have to see if we 66 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: can ask these guys about it. I hope we remember too. Also, 67 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: I would love to know, and I know India just 68 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: did it, what's on the dark side of the moon, 69 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: because everything talked about is on one side of the moon, 70 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: and there's this whole other, undiscovered side of the moon. Oh, 71 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I would like to know what's on there. These guys 72 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: aren't going to have that answer because they're just you know, 73 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: they talk about conspiracy theories. They're not scientists. We need 74 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: to get astronaut in here. By the way, I've DMD 75 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: a couple astronauts. They have ignored me. 76 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: They're too smart to come to the podcast. 77 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: They might be maybe they're just like this girl asks 78 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: way too many questions and we don't want to entertain 79 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: a fifth grader, so f you, But either way, I'm 80 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: coming for you guys again. It's one as an Asian 81 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: man and one is a black woman, and I want 82 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: them both. 83 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, but let's just get to it. Bring them in. 84 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Two of my favorite guys, Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown 85 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: from the Stuff They Don't Want You to Know podcasts. 86 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: That is how I found you. Guys. 87 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 5: Do that. 88 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: You came on the Big Show with Elvis. We talked 89 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: about all kinds of stuff. 90 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: The Big that's what we call it. That's the Big Show. 91 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 2: This is like the Little Show. 92 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: We take all sizes. 93 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, we talked about glitter. 94 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: We did well. 95 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you guys for joining me and 96 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: we came all the way from Atlanta and I love 97 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: you for doing that. The first thing is the podcast 98 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: that you guys do that I know you from. You 99 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: dive into all types of conspiracies and you also highlight 100 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: conspiracies that I have never heard about. You don't call 101 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: people conspiracy theorists. You call them conspiracy or realists. Yes, okay, explain. 102 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: That it's an important distinction. Yeah, yeah, thing. 103 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 7: So nowadays the term conspiracy theory has been kind of weaponized, right, 104 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 7: and we associate it with some very out there, wackado 105 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 7: and sometimes dangerous things. But to do that is kind 106 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 7: of dismissing critical thinking. That's what our show is. It's 107 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 7: critical thinking applied to these strange things. And the fact 108 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 7: of the matter is that when you delve into a 109 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 7: lot of quote unquote conspiracy theories, you can often find 110 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 7: grains of truth behind it, you know, like saying that 111 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 7: there is one mystery purchaser of glitter is true and 112 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 7: it is a conspiracy. It just happens to be real. 113 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 7: But then that's very different from saying, you know, the 114 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 7: Queen Elizabeth is a secret half alien half human hybrids. 115 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and no one should know. 116 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: I believe that one. 117 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 118 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 8: Well. 119 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 9: The funny thing too, is the conspiracy theories in their 120 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 9: most wacky form are like a modern form of folklore. 121 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 9: And usually when you trace the roots of folklore, there 122 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 9: is a grain of truth somewhere, buried down deep within 123 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 9: all of the game of telephone that history creates. 124 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the glitter because this one has 125 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: fascinated me and I've actually brought it up on our 126 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: show on the Morning Show and people tell me I'm crazy. 127 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: So who wants to take the glitter? 128 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 9: Well, it's a couple of possibilities, right, I mean one 129 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 9: I think one that I am a fan of is 130 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 9: the idea of micro taggants, right, right, that like basically 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 9: like there's a substance that you can put into explosives 132 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 9: that basically identify where they came from. 133 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 7: Like giving explosives fingerprints, a watermark on a photo. The 134 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 7: thing is, when people are saying check the facts, it's 135 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 7: because no one outside of that weird conspiracy knows who 136 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 7: the number one consumer of glitter is. Also know, it's 137 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 7: a pretty rarefied industry in the US, and when it's 138 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 7: a rarefied industry, when they're not a ton of people 139 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 7: in it, it becomes easier to do. 140 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 6: Things like that. And so I think it's what two 141 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 6: or three big companies. 142 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: This is one of them in. 143 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 6: Jersey, right, I think they're mostly that's weird. 144 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: I feel like a Jersey is all about it's all 145 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: about that glitter Jersey and Kesha. 146 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: Fans, And there might be an overlap there. 147 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 9: Actually it's all about that glitter, true, but the microtaggins 148 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 9: essentially would be little kind of tiny pieces of glitter 149 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 9: or plastic confetti, which is basically what glitter is. 150 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really bad for the environment too, by the way. 151 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 9: That has little micro printing on it or color pattern 152 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 9: that if something is detonated or exploded, it will scatter 153 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 9: these pieces and people in the know can say, okay, 154 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 9: we can trace this back to a particular manufacturer of 155 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 9: explosives or a particular country or governmental. 156 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: So it's like writing your name on a bomb. 157 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 6: Essentially fingerprints for bomb. 158 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 7: The other ideas paint on marine crafts, so like cruise ships. 159 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 6: And well you know you see a boat in the 160 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 6: hole is kind of like shiny, Yeah, glittering all the 161 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 6: time and paint. 162 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 7: And the idea yeah, and the candy pit, yes, for 163 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 7: the wind. So the the idea there is that it's 164 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 7: a secret because these mazes, these large industries don't want 165 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 7: people to know that people the paint can have a 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 7: bad effect on the. 167 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 9: Environment because it's microplastics and it ends up like there's 168 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 9: layers of the stuff at the bottom of the ocean 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 9: and it ain't going anywhere. 170 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: No. 171 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: No, it's also in our blood. And we talked about 172 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I was on a Kesha cruise. I got onto an 173 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: elevator and there was a man. 174 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: With a pocket full of glitter. 175 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Wo he pulled it out and just blew it in 176 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: my face, and I swear to you it's still in 177 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: my lungs. 178 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. That's an active aggression. 179 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: That is a salt. 180 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 6: I think. 181 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 7: Also, I do have to just while we're on the subject, 182 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 7: before we move on, I do have to say this. 183 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 7: We did that glitter episode one that I had previously 184 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 7: for a long time considered. A close friend decided to 185 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 7: mail me an envelope of glitter. 186 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: The glitter bombs you. 187 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 6: Uh huh, so, Steve, if you war is still on? 188 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah again, assault ast via the male how dare they? 189 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 9: Last thing we did discover though, there are eco friendly 190 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 9: forms of glitter that are made out of eggshells. 191 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: Oh, which makes sense because. 192 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 9: They can get eggs of different varieties that come in 193 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 9: different colors. If you smush them up and then make 194 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 9: it into like sort. 195 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: Of a powder, it's sort of glittery. 196 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: I would also imagine some shell shells are pretty glittering. 197 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 9: And those are already in the ocean. Those are fine 198 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 9: for the ocean because they're like from there, right. 199 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: So they can just go right back there. Okay. 200 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: So and in short, there is one or two you say, 201 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: one purchaser one massive is. 202 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: Our main theory, right. 203 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 7: It's often it's often thought to be the US military, 204 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 7: which makes sense because you know that the US military 205 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 7: does a lot of stuff it does. 206 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,119 Speaker 1: If it is like signing your name to an explosive, 207 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: why would anyone do that? 208 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: I've often wanted that as well. Yeah, it's more it's 209 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: more about the manufacturer. 210 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 7: It's like kind of it's like the Yeah, it's like 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 7: the the some sort of law requires these explosives, certain 212 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 7: explosives to be identifiable, so. 213 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 6: If someone is up to some. 214 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 7: Illegal shenanigans, then it will help the authorities figure out 215 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 7: what is going on and like trace the providence of 216 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 7: it or the chain of manufacturer. 217 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 9: They're referred to as identification particles, and so it is 218 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 9: very much a thing. And there's a company called Microtrace 219 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 9: Solutions that specializes in this, and it says uniquely encoded 220 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 9: for your application. Microtaggon identification particles have multiple levels of 221 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 9: security within each particle. These microscopic particles contain multiple color 222 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 9: layers which translate to a numeric code. 223 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: In addition to this base structure. 224 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 9: We can add other materials to the micro tagget to 225 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 9: aid in location and authentication. 226 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: This is news to me. There's a lot of other 227 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: special upgrades for your mind. 228 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 7: Well, of course, because they're selling it, they're like, you 229 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 7: can get micro tagget premium. 230 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 9: It says, then it says how microtaggons can help authenticating 231 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 9: your product with multiple visible color responses. 232 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: Choosing covert or overt level of security important. 233 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 9: It's almost for you more than it is for others too. 234 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 9: So you can like someone couldn't say you did this 235 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 9: bomb right like false flag you and say the US 236 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 9: government bombed this whatever. You can say no, because we 237 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 9: our microtaggings aren't in it. 238 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's still so much wiggle room in there. 239 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: Whereas one government finds out what the others tagging, you 240 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: frame that a million. And also, you know, if you're 241 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: talking about legal versus illegal, of course every legal handgun 242 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: has a serial number in it, and then they're all 243 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: the ones that have the serial number file off of 244 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: it and they still operate the same. So I would 245 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: love to believe that this is exactly how it's going, 246 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's some sketchy stuff behind it. 247 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Sketchy. 248 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 6: That's the thing too. 249 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 9: We'll get to a place where here are some possibilities, 250 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 9: here are some options. But usually in most episodes we 251 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 9: don't end with like a here's what's up. It's very rare, 252 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 9: but that's sort of what separates us, I think, from 253 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 9: other shows in this space. Let's just be a douchebag 254 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 9: and say that, because a lot of people really do 255 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 9: try to say we have the answers, we know it, 256 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 9: and a lot of that is very kind of fear 257 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 9: mongerie and trying to get people scared by saying we 258 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 9: know who the true enemy is and it. 259 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: Is this the ops. You know. We don't do that. 260 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 9: We try to like educate people, give people the information 261 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 9: they need to make their own choices, and then move on. 262 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 7: And I think that's some one of the reasons that 263 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: we click so hard is because in your work, at 264 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 7: least I personally, I see a lot of that ex bluration, right, 265 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 7: like a lot of no stone left unturned. I am 266 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 7: curious about this thing, I want to learn more about it. 267 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 7: I just want to say that's something that I really appreciate. 268 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 7: Not everybody cheesing my words carefully here. 269 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: You don't have to it's a podcast, right, is going 270 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: to get us you say whatever you want. 271 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot of people, a lot of 272 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 6: people could do with more of that in their lives. 273 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 6: So I just went to you on AIRSA. I really 274 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 6: appreciate it. 275 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: I love you for that. 276 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: I think I oftentimes get accused of being a contrarian 277 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: or the devil's advocate, But I come from an Indian 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: family where my dad beat it into our heads. Always 279 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: ask a question, Always follow the money trail. 280 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: Always ask who. 281 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Conducted the survey, why did they conduct the survey, who 282 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: did they sample? And what is the outcut? When you 283 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: get the outcome, how does that affect somebody in one 284 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: way or another. So I'm always looking at things from 285 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: those lenses, and people get very irritated. 286 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 4: Those are the main points that we eat use. 287 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: But do you guys find people getting irritated at you 288 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: when you ask questions. 289 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 7: Especially if it's something that is to them a matter 290 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 7: of their like they have a personal identification with it, right, 291 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 7: or they feel they feel that asking a question is 292 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 7: somehow an attack on their character or identity when you're 293 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 7: just asking a question. And I love, I love what 294 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 7: your dad is saying about the source of a study, right, 295 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 7: and the intention behind it I've been obsessed with for 296 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 7: a while now. It's it's not something that happens in 297 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 7: other countries, but in the United States. Thanks Ed, we're brenees. 298 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 7: We have a ton of stuff like that. And my 299 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 7: favorite is nine out of ten dentists. I always wonder 300 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,479 Speaker 7: who the tenth renegade dentist. 301 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: Is recommend that paste. 302 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 7: Exactly, he's fighting Big Crest or something. He's out of 303 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 7: the lamb, he's off the grid. 304 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: And it's always nine out of ten dentists surveyed. So 305 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: if you find all the dentists who are getting paid 306 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: off but Big Crest, then. 307 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 6: Of course, and also why are we assuming it's dude, 308 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? 309 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: Very good point, ben Well. 310 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 9: I think it's interesting too with the survey stuff where 311 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 9: we run into a lot of situations where we're looking 312 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 9: at scientific studies that are conducted. 313 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 4: By like say, big Pharma. 314 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 9: You know, if you look at the thing with Purdue 315 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 9: and all of the stuff around oxy content and you know, 316 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 9: being not addictive or less addictive, and we know that 317 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 9: that was you know, largely bad science, right, but it 318 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 9: was scientists that were in the pocket or in the 319 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 9: employee at the very least of this big pharma and 320 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 9: they had a preconceived conclusion that they were trying to 321 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 9: get to justify them being able to sell this very 322 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 9: lucrative drug. So that's a great example of like we 323 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 9: need to think about the source, considered the story, and. 324 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: No shade on scientists. 325 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 9: We talk about this all the time, but a lot 326 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 9: of times the folks that end up in high positions 327 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 9: at these companies, you know, are folks that have come 328 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 9: from you know, lobbying, for example, and they have this 329 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 9: sort of in you know, these sources. 330 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: And it's way you never trust a rich scientist. You 331 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: always have to wonder why how did you get rich? 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: What is going on? 333 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 6: Is that like skinny cook. 334 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't trust the skinny chef studying your food. 335 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 7: What are some things that you remember where people accused 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 7: you of being contrariant? 337 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay, so so many things. But there 338 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: was a study about Harry. 339 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 6: In case this is audio for. 340 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: People, study that said people who read Harry Potter books 341 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: tend to be more open minded to the world in general. 342 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: And they were specifically talking about Harry Potter books. And 343 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: I said, well, could you not apply that to really 344 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: people who read in general, because if you're reading it, 345 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: if you're reading science fiction, you have a mind that 346 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: is open to all of these different possibilities, and it's 347 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: open to different creatures, alien life form, whatever it is 348 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: the possibility. 349 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: So would we just. 350 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: Assign that to Harry Potter fans or could we assign 351 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: that to people who read in general and read science 352 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: fiction in general? And when I tell you Harry Potter 353 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: fans that they came for me, they were so angry, like, you, bitch, 354 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: why can't you just let us have this? Okay, I'll 355 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: let you have it, but this I'm just asking the question, 356 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: how does that not relate to other things? And I 357 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: think that that kind of stuff happens a lot of 358 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: times with stupid pop culture stuff, and you know, the 359 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: survey says whatever it is. I just always have the question. 360 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: And then people are like, you're such a pain in 361 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: the ass. 362 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 9: Have you seen this whole hubbub about the actress Miriam 363 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 9: Margoyles who played I guess it was sort of a 364 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 9: bit part Professor Pomona Sprout. 365 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: She's Australian. 366 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 9: She need to she said, if your balls have dropped, 367 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 9: then you need to let it go. 368 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 4: That's her words, not why. 369 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: Can't you just let people like things if they're not 370 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 7: hurting someone else? 371 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: Right? 372 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 7: She is also I will give her points though, because 373 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 7: she's I think the same person. She said something that 374 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 7: I thought took a lot of huts. She was supposed 375 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 7: to be in an upcoming Marvel Studios TV show. 376 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: I think it was meant to be one division. She 377 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: was gonna be a witchy. 378 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, or maybe the Agatha thing coming out, and she said, 379 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 7: I don't like America. 380 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: I didn't want to go. 381 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 7: Instead of saying no, she went back to the Marvel 382 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 7: people and said, I'll do it for a million pounds yes, 383 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 7: and they said, well that's a lot. They came back 384 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 7: and they said we can give you half of that, 385 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 7: and she said then no, no, because her idea was 386 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 7: that she would appear as though she were playing ball 387 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 7: and just set the straight. 388 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: So high doesn't have to do it, or she gets 389 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: a million pounds in right. 390 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's funny. 391 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 9: I mean, you know, she says she hates America, she 392 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 9: hates Georgia, but man, in Australia it's beautiful, but they've 393 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 9: got spiders that will kill you. 394 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: Everything to kill you everything. I still want to go. 395 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I dated in Australia. 396 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 7: Once that stuff is true, try to kill you yeah 397 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 7: oh yeah, just recreationally, like we weren't even fighting. 398 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 9: I have an internet friend and I met through the 399 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 9: podcast actually, and she and her partner live in like 400 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 9: the deep deep bush you know of like Mega deep. 401 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 9: But she just has these amazing nature photographs and these creatures. 402 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 9: They look like ship on the Avatar planet, like they 403 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 9: shouldn't exist in the world. Their eyes are out of 404 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 9: proportion with the rest of their body. That's fair, but no, no, 405 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 9: I just mean, like, what is this hybrid beast that 406 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 9: I'm looking at? 407 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 4: It doesn't make anything. 408 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 6: It'll probably kill you. 409 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 7: Let's go to Australia because I am a very I'm 410 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 7: a very peaceful person. But I've been involved in several 411 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: conversations now and I have something to prove God here. 412 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 7: I think I could take a kangaroo, like in a 413 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 7: one on one if it came down to it, to. 414 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: Rip your arms off your body. 415 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: Bro, have you seen some of these kangaroos. They're like Tyson. 416 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, well not like a top tier Tyson kangaroo, but 417 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 7: like you, maybe a regular wall That's not fair. 418 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 6: That would be like playing Little League as an adult. 419 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: You have to sweep the leg. If you can sweep 420 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: the leg, you might have a fight again. 421 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: Have you seen their legs? Those are like rafter legs. 422 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, you got a strong you got a stick of move. 423 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 9: They can apparently disembowel you with a kick you if 424 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 9: your slow, so you think you're stronger and faster. 425 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: You heard coverage kangaroo, kangaroo, kangaroo. Do you think you 426 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: can take it? I'll tell you what the fighting pits 427 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: with you, my friends, and at any. 428 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: Point you actually decide to do this, I will, hands down, 429 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: absolutely buy a ticket to come and watch this happen, 430 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: and I will bring medical professionals. Okay for either you 431 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: or the kangaroo. Okay, because someone's not gonna farewell in 432 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: this way. But I'm excited to see it. 433 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 6: Thank you, absolutely. 434 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 2: So. 435 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: You guys talk about all kind of stuff. We were 436 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: just talking about crazy life forms on this planet. We're 437 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: still discovering all the time. The ocean is fast, yeah, 438 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: grip did. 439 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: So we call them in this in the space. 440 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 9: But speaking of Australia, that's a great possibility for all 441 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 9: of this undiscovered country out there where like you could well, 442 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 9: there could well be things hiding. 443 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm always fascinated when they find 444 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: a new species on Earth on the actual land. Yeah, 445 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: because it should be the ocean, right, it should be 446 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: the ocean. And then if we're still finding new stuff 447 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: on land where we you know, write and free, I 448 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: can't even imagine what is down there, parts. 449 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: Where no light will reach. 450 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 7: They find it like an anime level squid every it 451 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 7: seems like every three months. 452 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, massivelie. 453 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: And you know, gravity obviously doesn't take a toll on 454 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: them or affect them in any way, so they could 455 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: be very big and fluid. Like I just think it's 456 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: awesome and I would love to think about it when 457 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: you go to Australia, yes. 458 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: Before you get murdered by kangaroos. 459 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: Yes, so I have. 460 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: Sorry, man, I'm in your corner. That should be more supportive. 461 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 7: No, No, you're giving me that moment where I could just, 462 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 7: with quiet, almost dangerous confidence, go we'll see, we'll see. 463 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. 464 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's good to have a detractor because then when 465 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: you win, you're like, ah, took that kangaroo down. But 466 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: I have been saying I'm going to do a podcast 467 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: called can I touch it. Yes, I just go around 468 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: and see can I touch the thing? And there's a 469 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: lot in Australia. I would love to discover crocodiles, kangaroo, platypus, 470 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Tasmanian double fingers. 471 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, just lightly. 472 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I think that they'll read my vibes and it'll be fine. 473 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: It has not always worked out for me, but we're 474 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: gonna try. It'll be great. But back to these creatures. 475 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: I know you guys do a lot with aliens and UFOs. Yes, yes, 476 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: what are some of the more credible things that you've discovered? 477 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 9: Well, now is the time. It's a golden time for 478 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 9: credible UFO talks. 479 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is? Why now more than ever? 480 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 7: Well, copping to it, Basically, there was this very surreal 481 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: moment amid the pandemic where everybody had their lives upended. 482 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 6: They were living in times of chaos. 483 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: There's a lot of isolation, loneliness, fear, and the US 484 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: government came out and said, hey, yeah, by the way, guys, 485 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 7: happy Friday. We think aliens are real peace and then 486 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 7: everyone else in the world just went yeah, all right. 487 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: I get it. I got a lot. Yes, the timing was. 488 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 7: Us that four point thirty Friday afternoon announcement, right, just 489 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 7: sit on that for the weekend. A big part of 490 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 7: it is, from what we can tell, one of the 491 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 7: most credible possibilities is that there is human made technology 492 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 7: that hasn't been disclosed because historically a lot of UFO 493 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 7: or UAP reports from like Project Blue Book and so on, 494 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: they turned out to be stealth aircraft, and the government 495 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 7: made this sort of cost benefit thing where they said, Okay, 496 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 7: the best way to cover this stuff up is not 497 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 7: to immediately shut it down or arrest imprison people. It's 498 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 7: just sort of lean into the yes and and improv 499 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: and be like, yeah, dude, maybe martians. 500 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 9: In the disclosure documents though that were highly redacted and 501 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 9: pretty vague over yeall, wasn't there like a line or 502 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 9: two that was like but then there's. 503 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: This other there's still stuff they couldn't prove. And part 504 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 6: of that. 505 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 7: Part of that could be explained by the fact that 506 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 7: they're very siloed in these different departments. And I mean, 507 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 7: that's how most right, that's that's how most government operates 508 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 7: at a big level, so exactly, so it's completely possible 509 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 7: that there could be one one team in one department, 510 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 7: who's like, holy shit, what is going on? And the 511 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: people who could explain it are somewhere else and they 512 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 7: don't know about it or they don't want to tell 513 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 7: the other dudes. But then also, you know, statistically, it is, 514 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 7: given what we know about the size of the universe, 515 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 7: it is inevitable that there's other intelligent life out there. 516 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Oh there has to be. 517 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 6: There has to me. 518 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: That's just a fact. Whether or not, it's definitely. 519 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 7: And then it's like when aliens land, you know, I 520 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 7: hope they meet you first, and you've got to reach 521 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 7: out and touch, absolutely find out. 522 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: And if that's how I go out, that'll be a 523 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: glorious story. 524 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: That'll be amazing, Like the coolest person. 525 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: Try to touch an alien. 526 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: And she blipped out into the dark. 527 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: Matter is vanished. So you guys both believe in aliens. 528 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 9: I don't know what to call it, you know, honestly, 529 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 9: it's it's it's almost like I don't necessarily believe in 530 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 9: a Christian god per se, but there's gotta be some something, 531 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 9: whether that's aliens, whether that's some divine you know, humans 532 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 9: with aliennat stuff, aliens, all of that's the thing. 533 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 4: The unseen movers. 534 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 9: That's what I believe. I don't know what to call it, though, 535 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 9: and I think that's a fine. 536 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: Place to be. 537 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 9: I'm comfortable with that. I don't need to know everything. 538 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,959 Speaker 9: I have all the answers. 539 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 7: The other question is like it all sometimes gets lumped 540 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 7: into an umbrella thing like it sounds we It sounds 541 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 7: as though we have all accepted the mathematical reality that 542 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 7: there has to be intelligent life somewhere out there in 543 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 7: the ink. But that's a very different question from saying 544 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 7: we also think these folks traveled somehow across the chasms 545 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 7: of time and space to visit the bad neighborhood. Yeah, 546 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 7: because the Earth in the Solar System, we are the 547 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 7: trashy house. We got a bunch of stuff in lower 548 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 7: Earth orbit. 549 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 8: It's like, oh god, just the space trash problem. Yeah, 550 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 8: but I don't know that's what you. 551 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: Land on it, Ben. 552 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 9: We've never really overtly talked about that exactly. 553 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: Just so we don't will. 554 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 9: It's like, you know, we just do our thing. We 555 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 9: spend a lot of time together, but I've never been been. 556 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: Do you believe like it's not really come up? Well. 557 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: I as far as aliens landing on Earth, The closest 558 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 7: thing that seems the most plausible is the brilliant idea 559 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 7: theory with a very silly name. Apologies to everyone in 560 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 7: the audience, pan Spermia. 561 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 6: The idea, It's true. 562 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 7: It's the idea that life on Earth, which we still 563 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 7: can't explain how that how this whole thing started happening. 564 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 7: Life on Earth may have come from somewhere else, maybe 565 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 7: a comet or an asteroid or something. 566 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: That we share some commonality. 567 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 7: That life came from whatever that traveler was, whatever you 568 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 7: want to call it, and then we just sort of 569 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: evolved from there. 570 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: I think that's a plausible. 571 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 9: It's like the sewing of galactic wild oats or the 572 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 9: galactic sewing of wild oats. 573 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I want I want to see an extra 574 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 7: terrestrial so bad? 575 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: Me too, you too, so bad. 576 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: I think the coolest thing is we can only really 577 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: imagine all of the things that are within our realm 578 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: of imagination, reading through all that kind of stuff, maybe 579 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: some trooms. I just want to see something that is 580 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: outside the realm of anything I could ever imagine. Yeah, 581 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: I just want to see it. 582 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: Blow, yes, blow my mind please? 583 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, with you on the take us to your leader. 584 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 7: First off, will you guys do a trick. 585 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: First of all, I'll hold my hand so I can 586 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: say I touched it. Yeah, there you go. I think 587 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: it'll be awesome. I would love to see it. 588 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I would not be afraid of an extraterrestrial because here's 589 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: my thought. If they can reach us and we have 590 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: not reached them, allegedly, they have to be a lot 591 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: smarter than us. So I would imagine that they sort 592 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: of look at us as like maybe a little puppy 593 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: or something, just. 594 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: Like, oh, you're so cute, little Earth. 595 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 6: They can't get out of here, they would have already 596 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 6: destroyed us to you. 597 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Would think, right, if they can get here, they're way 598 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: superior to us anyway, So if they have a bad intention, 599 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: it would have been carried out. Maybe that's stupid of me, 600 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: but I would absolutely be the person outside. 601 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: Like, Hi, come on out here. 602 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: So you guys do all of this on your show, 603 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: on your podcast, And I think the best part is 604 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: sort of what you said, Noel, that you don't come 605 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: to a conclusion at the end of it. You just 606 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: toss up all the ideas. 607 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: Fa there's some people alive lot of a. 608 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: Little shit sturry, which I'm a fan of but it's 609 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: also like unsolved mysteries. 610 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. 611 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: I watched the new episodes and I was like, I'm 612 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of pissed off. How do they not get to 613 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: the bottom of this? 614 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: This show is called. 615 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: Unsolved that they will not be solved, but I like 616 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: that we we. 617 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: Also we do inappropriate if it's appropriate. Oftentimes there is 618 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: an answer. 619 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 9: But a lot of these things are inherently thought experiments, 620 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 9: and that's the most fun for us. 621 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 7: I think we don't want to mandate a belief. We 622 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 7: don't want to tell people what they should be thinking. 623 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 7: Usually some of the most interesting thoughts come from those 624 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 7: questions we ask a big fan you know, hashtag no question. 625 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: Left behind, et cetera. 626 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 7: Right, even when off air, and I can say this 627 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 7: on the show, even off air, we're done with something 628 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 7: and we've gotten too close to it or like frustrated, 629 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 7: and one of us might say. 630 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 6: He fucking killed that lady, like it was definitely I 631 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 6: would say, we don't put that on there. 632 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 9: Note we don't necessarily need to say what our particular 633 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 9: opinion is about whether or not that person killed that person. 634 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 6: Right is it helpful to the conversation, But they. 635 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 9: Rarely will we say something off air that we wouldn't say. 636 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 6: We're thinking through it. 637 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: So what are some of the things that at the 638 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: end of the episode you've come to a conclusion about. 639 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 7: Okay, a lot of government corruption stuff turns out to 640 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 7: be completely true. 641 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 6: A great deal, a great deal of. 642 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 7: Conspiracies involving the pursuit of money and government corruption are true. 643 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 7: And what usually happens here conye is first someone try it, 644 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 7: gets a little big for their breches, and then they 645 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 7: mess up, and then they try to cover it up. 646 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 7: And that's what's happening. A lot of conspiracies originate as 647 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: mistakes or pursuits of power. For instance, the Sackler family 648 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 7: conspiracy absolutely true. 649 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 6: You mentioned that. 650 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 9: And you know, while they didn't get like meaningfully punished, 651 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 9: at least the ones that actually perpetrated the most egregious crimes, 652 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 9: we know that they did it. There was acknowledgement that 653 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 9: they did it on purpose, that they more or less 654 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 9: falsified that data or at the very least paid the 655 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 9: right scientists to come to the conclusions they want did 656 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 9: and they created nationwide opioid epithemic and people died. 657 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 6: A lot of the drug stuff is true. Actually, like 658 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 6: the drug war stuff. 659 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: Can we talk a bit about the blood, the bad 660 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: blood stuff. 661 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 9: Oh gosh, yeah, bit of a bummer and heavy, but 662 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 9: it's it's important blood. 663 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 664 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: Still a little levity at the top because it gets. 665 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, so we'll keep this from short plenty of time. 666 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: We can always edit it down. 667 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 6: You're go for it. 668 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 9: I will just lead off by saying that this was 669 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 9: the story that got me the most suspicious about Bill Clinton. 670 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: Cut to Arkansas. 671 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 7: It's the it's the seventies, the eighties. Arkansas, like mini 672 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 7: states in this country, has a terrifying history when it 673 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 7: comes to incarceration and prisons. And in that part of 674 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 7: the country, they had prison farms. These prison farms were yes, 675 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 7: we're very much. Yeah, they were very much enslaving people. 676 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 7: And in what we we came in. 677 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 6: With, UH was the story that. 678 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 7: These uh, these prison officials during UH before entering the 679 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 7: governorship of Bill Clinton, noted amateur saxophonists h and also 680 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 7: did some other stuff against they were They were running 681 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 7: this program where they would get prisoners to donate blood 682 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 7: plasma and they would pay them a negligible amount of 683 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 7: prison script farm script. And they knew these guys had hepatitis, 684 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 7: they knew they carried HIV. They also didn't bother to 685 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 7: clean the needles or preserve the samples, and. 686 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,719 Speaker 4: The prisoners did in the prisoners were running. 687 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 8: The last the prisoners were running, they'd be like, oh, hey, 688 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 8: it's Steve. 689 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, I know he has hebe but he really wants 690 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 9: those those commissary coupons. 691 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: Right, let's just well, let's turn a blind eye. 692 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 9: So a lot of blood was donated by people that 693 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 9: were known to have had these these things. I mean, 694 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 9: you know, as a citizen, you can't donatey blood if 695 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 9: you've had a tattoo, right. 696 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 7: And they mix this stuff together, they mix all these 697 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 7: samples together, so they're spreading these infections among the population 698 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 7: in prison. And then they franchise it pretty much. They 699 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 7: go global and they sell this stuff to biotech companies 700 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 7: who use it to make a treatment for hemophiliacs, women 701 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 7: who have experienced challenges in childbirth, people in car accidents, 702 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 7: all this other stuff. 703 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 9: Since then that those medications have been able to be 704 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 9: made using synthesized plasma, but at the time, the only 705 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 9: way to do it was with a real plasma. 706 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 7: And people getting this did not know that it was 707 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 7: coming from prisoners they found. You know, you get out 708 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 7: of a surgery, your life is already pretty tough for 709 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 7: a couple of months, right, and then you learn that, oh, 710 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 7: now you also have hepatitis C or you're a hemophiliac 711 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 7: and you're required to have this treatment on a regular basis. 712 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: Barely have any recourse of like who do and blame? 713 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: Who responsible? 714 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 7: Italy, Japan, Canada, they all got affected. We looked further 715 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 7: into it, and we found that the history of the 716 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 7: Arkansas prison system, dating back to the forties was rooted 717 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 7: in human experimentation. 718 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 6: So that's why they put that. 719 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: NAZE level stuff. 720 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, really grody stuff. And so that's why this 721 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 7: was sort of the perfect storm of a very true, 722 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 7: very evil conspiracy. And like Noel was saying, you know, 723 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 7: we had this moment while we're recording, and and I 724 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 7: remember the moment. We were shocked and it stayed with 725 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 7: you after we got off the air, because Noel has 726 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 7: this moment where he goes, hang on Bill Clinton, Right, 727 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 7: Bill Clinton was governor then, and then we said, yeah 728 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 7: he was, and did he know was it just like 729 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 7: a series of political kickbacks to look the other way? 730 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 9: He certainly pointed some of his buds to like high 731 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 9: level position within this sweetheart deal, you know, in terms 732 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 9: of because it was a government contract, they basically farmed 733 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 9: out prison farmed out just plasma stuff to these biotech 734 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 9: companies through these very lucrative contracts, and then that material 735 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 9: is used to make these medications. And you can see 736 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 9: situations where you're like Clinton had to have known because 737 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 9: there were multiple red flags and then it could they'd 738 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 9: shut it down briefly and then keep keep it going. 739 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 6: Yikes, real stuff. We yeah. 740 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 9: I mean a big shout out to Kelly Dudah by 741 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 9: the way, who is a documentary documentarian who really cracked 742 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 9: a lot of this research. I believe he's working on 743 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 9: a project to really do a deep dive into this, 744 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 9: I think in the podcast space. But he's got a 745 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 9: documentary that's a little hard to find, but we did 746 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 9: find it, right is it. 747 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 7: It's called Factor eight Factory eight fact, which is the 748 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 7: name of the blood plasma product products that they gave 749 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 7: to people. And as a result of his investigation, there 750 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 7: are lawsuits that come about. He had to go testify 751 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 7: in the court in Italy and between US. I think 752 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 7: the court was crooked. I'm just going to be very clear. 753 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, the Italian court system. 754 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 9: No, they essentially held him for slander or for libel and. 755 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 6: See tried to. 756 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it just gets crooked because a lot of these 757 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 7: global conglomerates, pharmaceutical conglomerates have tremendous power. We know it's 758 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 7: a downer, but then we started looking into other stuff 759 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 7: like that, blood donations, transfusions are so incredibly important. The 760 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 7: technology has saved millions and millions of lives. 761 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 9: Also make billions and billions of dollars. 762 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, and when that money comes in, the opportunity for 763 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 7: bad actors just escalates and it may continue. There was 764 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 7: there's still like an ongoing case in the nation of 765 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 7: China where they did something similar exploiting rural villagers. 766 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 2: Again. 767 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I could see the shop on your face. 768 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: Crazy. 769 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 9: We talked about that the other day, and there were 770 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 9: so many parallels between the isolated nature of living in 771 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 9: rural China and being a farmer not making ends meat, 772 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 9: and being a prisoner who is just wants a little 773 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 9: bit of money. They can buy cigarettes, you know, or 774 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 9: whatever it is that you buy. The commisarrea. 775 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 7: You're right, and it's a heartbreaking thing, and you know, 776 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 7: is it not horrified that we're not surprised when we 777 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 7: hear this stuff that really, I think paints an unflattering 778 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 7: pictures society and behind the curtain. I started to feel 779 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 7: like a freaking vampire because I was like, we're talking 780 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 7: about blood a lot on the show, and I've got 781 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 7: to like dial it down on how often I'm asking 782 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 7: people to give blood because I'm sounded a little, as 783 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 7: you said, sus. 784 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 4: And also within all the maybe last thing on this stopic, 785 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: it's this heavy blood brokers. 786 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 9: It's literally a position, a job, being the middle person 787 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 9: in these exchanges and they clean up. There's also body brokers, 788 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 9: people that are able to provide cadavers for various purposes 789 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 9: of scientific experimentation. And there's a lot of weird sus 790 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 9: kind of regulations around. 791 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna have to pause that because 792 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this or not. 793 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes we pre record these. 794 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: So I can just chop this up because we talked 795 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: to these guys for a very long time and do 796 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: the second half of this, which they get into all 797 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: kinds of other stuff on next week, or maybe we'll 798 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: even drop it today. I don't know how a two 799 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: parter works. I'm gonna have to learn that. 800 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: I know. 801 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: We still have to wrap up with what we would 802 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: normally do. So let's start with the burn book because 803 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: I want to burn. Oh lift driver, abdel jaalil, Oh, 804 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: you are on my shit list, sir. I almost want 805 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: to read off your license plate because let me tell 806 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: you what happens. 807 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: Oh God, did I tell you this? 808 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: No. 809 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: I had to take a piece of art somewhere and 810 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: it's a big piece of art. 811 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: So it was pouring the other day. I call the lift. 812 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: I know which cars that piece will fit in, and 813 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 1: the answer is every car, because I've ever had an 814 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: issue transporting these pieces. 815 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: Ever called a regular lift. It's raining. He pulls up. 816 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: I go out. 817 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting poured on. Open the door. He takes one 818 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: look at me and says, are you ready? Get away 819 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: from my car. That's not getting in my car. I said, 820 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: what's not? I thought maybe there was like a dog 821 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: or something behind me. I was like, what's not getting 822 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: in your car? You and that I don't know what 823 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: that is, but it's not getting in my car. It's 824 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: too big. Get away from my car. And he's like 825 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: reversing as he's yelling at me. So I'm standing there 826 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: getting wet with this man yelling at me telling me 827 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: that something cannot fit into his car. 828 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: That absolutely can. 829 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: But let me tell you, when a lyft driver or 830 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: an uber driver or anything, if there's any inkling to 831 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: me that they don't want to take me, I'm not 832 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: getting in the car. Yeah, because that's the last thing 833 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: you want to do, is like be in a car 834 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: with someone that doesn't want you in there. 835 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: That's crazy. So I was like, what the fuck? 836 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: So I backed up, left his car door wide open, 837 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: and just walked away from the curb so that his 838 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: ass had to get out and come around the car 839 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: and shut it. And he acted like he was so 840 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: put out by that. I reported his ass immediately lift 841 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: driver up del Jalil on my shit list. Man, he 842 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: drives in New Jersey. I might just I might just 843 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: read off that plate at some point, abdel what is it? 844 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: Abdel Jalil, abdel Jaliel? Fuck you ship bag? So madager? Oh? 845 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: I was so mad. And then the next car pulls up, 846 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 2: same size car. 847 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: I got in and I took a picture of myself 848 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: with the piece of art and sent it to them, like, 849 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: just so you know, we fit comfortably, me and this 850 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: piece of art. Your driver's a ship bag and was 851 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: reversing also like ghett a life or a. 852 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 5: Loser to you, I say, I would have pretended as 853 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 5: if he ran over my foot. 854 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: And then you know, now now we're in this together. 855 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: There was too much going on. 856 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 5: Now we're going to the emergency room and your ass 857 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: is going down. 858 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm calling the cops. Mm hmmm mm hmm, yeah, yeah good. 859 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: I was really mad at him. I was really mad. 860 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: And then I was like, is it petty to have 861 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: left the door open? 862 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: Yes, but do I feel badly? No, as you should 863 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: have not at all. 864 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: Fuck you. 865 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: I would have tipped him all too, because it was 866 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 2: raining and everything. 867 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: Whatever. 868 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: Screw you, buddy burn Yeah, loser like that. We make 869 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: our own sound effects like that. 870 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 2: I like, all right, do we haven't asked me anything? 871 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: We do? 872 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 4: Oh? 873 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 3: I don't remember who was from? 874 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you want me to open that back up? 875 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 5: But no, we're good, ore good. They know that they asked. 876 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 5: They want to know do you still have kidney stones? 877 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 5: Which is a question that I want to know the 878 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 5: answer to as well. 879 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: Knock on wood. The answer is at last scan. No, 880 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: we good, baby. 881 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 5: Oh. 882 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: I actually got really paranoid the other day just because 883 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: a little inside scoop. One of the things that one 884 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: of my doctors told me was that he has a 885 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: little bit of concern that I have a very high 886 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: pain threshold because with some of the stuff that was 887 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: going on. Even after the fact, they would ask me like, 888 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: how much are you hurting? And I would always say, well, 889 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,479 Speaker 1: not a lot. But their answer, or what they thought 890 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: the answer should be, was You're in a lot of 891 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: pain because of these things that are going on, but 892 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't. So he said he really wants me to 893 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: keep an eye on it and anything that seems even 894 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: slightly amiss, go get it checked out. So now you know, 895 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm paranoid, and in my head, even if I like sneeze, 896 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, was that a pain? I don't know, because 897 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: I should have felt all this stuff. I didn't feel it. 898 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: But I went to my doctor, I got blood work. 899 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: Knock on wood, that's clear. And I'm actually gonna go 900 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 1: get an ultrasound pretty soon here just to double check 901 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: and make sure that we're all good and everything's okay, 902 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: and that it was like a one off Fluke. So 903 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: as of now, knock on wood or for Mica, whatever. 904 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: This is, hope you can hear that. No, we're good 905 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 2: and thanks for caring. Love it. 906 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: And also to whomever sent me a T shirt in 907 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: the mail that says Kidney Stone Survivor, I would like. 908 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 2: To thank you and also say what the fuck. 909 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 5: I got? 910 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: You are a part of the club. 911 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about, all right. 912 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 1: So we had to take a break from Ben Bowleen 913 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: and Noel Brown because we have so much more to 914 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: talk to him about, and we will be back with 915 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: it next week in episode two or maybe later today 916 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: in episode two. 917 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Diamond If people want to get 918 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: a hold. 919 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 5: Of you, oh at Diamondson c here on everything but Twitter, 920 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 5: just add an underscore on Twitter? 921 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 2: Are people following you when we say this? No? No? 922 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 4: Oh? 923 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 3: Maybe on Instagram? I can't keep track because I don't. 924 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, okay, but yeah, okay, go follow 925 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Diamond at Diamondsoncere And if you want to follow. 926 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: Me at Baby Hot Sauce. 927 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: Good luck still Shadow pand or may the m E 928 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: d h A gandhi g A n d h I 929 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: And we'll be back with. 930 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: More conspiracies next week or later today. I'm gonna keep 931 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: saying that because I don't know. 932 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 5: Okay, oh kay, bye bye