1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: My fiance was denied a promotion because he refused to 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: accept an award he was given. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Why didn't you accept the award? 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Because he doesn't want to be employee of the month anymore. 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Too much, guys, Little old me. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: He's not about all the praise. So hey, guys, longtime 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: lurker in need of some advice. My fiance was recommended 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: SLASH given a training assignment some months back for a 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: vacancy that would be opening, and he showed me a 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: review at the end that he received where he received 11 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: great marks. However, to his surprise, he wasn't given the 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: position and he was the only person training for it. 13 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: He's been feeling down the last couple of days, but 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: he has told me something that I didn't know. By 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: the way, this comes from throw Lauree on the r 16 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: slash Okay storytime sub read it. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: So. 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: A few weeks back, he was given an award in 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: a meeting that he returned to his boss, Sam, boss 20 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: who recommended him for the vacancy because he doesn't like 21 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: a ward. I just don't like him, and he never 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: told me about it either, which I feel like when 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you're given something to someone out of the kindness of 24 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: your head. 25 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just I think so. I think also, 26 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: people like giving gifts and yeah, sometimes it just like 27 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: they take it to heart when you don't accept. 28 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: He also told his boss he didn't appreciate being blindsided. 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: This is weird. 30 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: That's weird, and he admitted he was emotionally stressed from 31 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: the meeting when he talked to him the same day. 32 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: He also told him to never give him an award again, 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: and he thinks that's the reason he didn't get the promotion. 34 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: That's a really weird response. 35 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, that is really weird. And the boss is probably like, well, 36 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to like work with 37 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: this guy and more. 38 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: When I asked why he didn't tell me about it, 39 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: he says that work was his space and it didn't 40 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: concern me, and that honestly hurt. I'm getting red fly. 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: After redsh This guy's weird. 42 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: He also said he's thinking about leaving the company and 43 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: he's been there since he interned in call it my 44 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: mom said to suggest that he talked to a professional 45 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: about why he was bothered by the award slash our relationship, 46 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: but Dad said I should reconsider because he created a 47 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: fan to walk into. 48 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Does that mean a fan like like he created a fan. 49 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: He created a fan to walk into that hurt his career. Yeah, 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I want to see if he'll talk to a professional 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: before reconsidering. But Dad said I shouldn't even give him 52 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: a chance. I believe I'm making the right decision by 53 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: seeing if he's open to it, not just for the 54 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: job stuff, but also four our relationship. But I want 55 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: to ask if I'm going about it correctly. Relevant comments. 56 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: So he got some relevant comments and an updates. I'm 57 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: sure it did hurt his career. He was ungracious and 58 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: humiliated his boss publicly. 59 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: Specifically him being like, I don't appreciate being blindsided. 60 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Kata Rain says, true life, I am the 61 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: a hole. Opie responds literally said he couldn't focus, although 62 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: he went to his office and returned to it after 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: the meeting and not during it, but still he said 64 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: he couldn't focus for the rest of the day and 65 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: brought a lot of emotions into the office when he went. 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: And we do have an update. But yeah, I feel 67 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: like this. Belton says, you're allowed to not accept awards, 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: but this was way too strong, I think so. Yeah, 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he did this publicly. 70 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: He did it publicly, He did it kind of rudely. 71 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: He did it rudely, kind of insulted his boss at 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: that point. 73 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Also, I think as like, you know, I feel like 74 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: you should just accept gifts generally, unless it's from the mob. 75 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: Unless there's some sort of string to it. Why not. 76 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: But let us know if you would have accepted the gift, 77 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: or do you think Opie did, Opie's significant other did 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: anything wrong? But we got an update. So before suggesting therapy, 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: I asked him to further explain why he returned the 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: award when everything seemed to be going well for him. 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: And I want to remind you that he showed me 82 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: a written review of his training assignment that he worked 83 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: on for a few months that came back with great remarks, 84 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: albeit nothing about returning the reward that had nothing to 85 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: do with it. He said that he viewed work awards 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: similar to participation trophies that he wanted no part of. 87 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: He's like, if you want to reward me, breaking give 88 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: me some money, promotion, yeah yeah, or like I don't know, 89 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: give me some kind of vacation. 90 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: I think if he had, like let's say he gets 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: the award and doesn't get a promotion, like he never 92 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: made this out burst and he you know, takes the 93 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: award doesn't get the promotion. It would then make sense 94 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: for him to go back and be like, dude, I 95 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: don't care about this freaking award. I want actual compensation 96 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: for my work. That would make sense, but this is 97 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: but you can either No, you can. 98 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: Of course you can do this privately and probably bad. 99 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: But I think in this situation, it seems like he's 100 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: just upset that he got an award even though he 101 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: was going to get a promotion too. 102 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty whack, pretty whackyodle. But he said that he 103 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: viewed worked awards similar to participation trophies and that he 104 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: wanted no part of it. But when I asked if 105 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: his reward was that, he said it was a certificate 106 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: recognizing him for his work along with training slash assisting 107 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: others when his boss asked him to sometimes mostly on computer. 108 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: When someone didn't know how to do something, he'd show 109 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: them over Microsoft teams. He specifically said it wasn't a 110 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: participation award, but that he viewed all rewards the same, so. 111 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't even I don't thin say what it's I'm. 112 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: Playing about I mean, I understand that he's you know, 113 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: there's like a I always see this on Reddit, yeah, 114 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: where it's like. 115 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: It's crazy because we're read it right now. 116 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I know I use Reddit sometimes, but it's like 117 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: on this subreddit, no work or something or anti work, 118 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: and it'll be like, oh, look, instead of my office 119 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: giving me the raise I deserve, they gave me a 120 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: print out saying you're doing a great job. Yeah, you know, 121 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: I can see that being annoying, but I feel like, 122 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's not playing the office politics necessary to 123 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: get a to get a raise. 124 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of times, I mean, promotion 125 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: is the work that you do, but it's also the 126 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: ability to make relationships. 127 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would say it's like fifty to fifty 128 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: or even eighty twenty eighty percent your relations ability to 129 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: do relationships, and twenty percent your ability to do the. 130 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Work personnel people like to work people. I mean, this 131 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: is you know, this was a huge thing with when 132 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: I was in theater school of talking like to my 133 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: teachers who were like, if you you can be a 134 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: great actor, if people don't want to work with you, 135 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: they're not going to work with you. If you're hard 136 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: to work with, you're not going to get hired unless 137 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: you're like obviously a famous person or something. But if 138 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: you're a small time person, no one's going to hire 139 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: you if they don't like you. 140 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Agreed. So he also said it'd make it awkward when 141 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: he helped people in the future because awards make people 142 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: seem less genuine, and that returning it showed he was 143 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: down to earth. I don't know about that. When I 144 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: asked why he couldn't just accept the reward and do 145 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: whatever he wanted with that at home, he said it 146 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: was a gesture to show he wasn't a management suck up. 147 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: So it seems like his view is not even like, 148 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: oh they weren't you know, they're not treating me fairly. 149 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: It was just like I was going to show them 150 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: that I was queer. 151 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he has it all wrong, and that 152 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: he'd be the same person after getting promoted. He also 153 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: said he saw someone lose friends at work after crossing 154 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: over to management side because it was in us versus 155 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: them mentality, and he compared his gesture to the person 156 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: who rejected the Nobel Peace Prize that he heard referenced 157 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: in Captain America The Winter Soldier? Is it? What? Objecting 158 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: to this workplace participation trophy is basically like that guy 159 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: rejecting the Nobel Peace Prize in The Winter Soldier. 160 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got me there. Put this guy on the 161 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: big screen. Yeah, he's saving. 162 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Life, fighting for the people. Yeah, he's fighting for the people. However, 163 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: he knew nothing about it besides the reference because he 164 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: loves Marvel movies and didn't even know the guy's name. 165 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: But when I asked if he regretted it, since everything 166 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: seemed to go well with his training before the issue 167 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: he likely made for himself, he said he was considering 168 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: suing the company because he was treated unfairly and he 169 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: wasn't open to therapy because he did nothing wrong. When 170 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I told him that it hurt when he said that 171 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: his work life didn't concern me, he said there were 172 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: many things he said at work that I wouldn't approve of, 173 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: but that it was his space, just like managers who 174 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: talked behind coworkers' backs. 175 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: What is he saying at work? 176 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea. Probably some sexist stuff mm. But 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: when I reminded him that we were engaged in incomparable 178 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to a coworker slash manager relationship. He said I wasn't 179 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: supporting him and didn't want couple's counseling either, and that's 180 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: pretty much how it went. So he's like, not trying 181 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: to mix anything. 182 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: No, it's gonna sounds like a nightmare in all aspects 183 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: of his life. So I can't do that either. I 184 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: can't accept that. No, thank you. 185 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: He sounds terrible. 186 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate him. 187 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: You hate him. 188 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: I hate him. 189 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: What if he's going through the death of the mother, 190 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, I hate him? Dang. The reason I spoke 191 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: to my parents before we talked was because of an 192 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: idea he floated in my first posts that I didn't mention, 193 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: and I want to explain it because some said I 194 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: threw him under the bus to my parents, So I'll 195 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: explain why. He said he was considering working a retail 196 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: job in the meantime after quitting because he thinks he 197 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: hit a dead end, and he said he'd be more 198 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: respected there too, in a retail job. I mean, like, 199 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: in a retail job, we're going to start from the bottom, right, Yeah, 200 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: because he doesn't have any experience there, so he's gonna 201 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: maybe he feels like his personality can do better in 202 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: a retail job. I don't know. 203 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: I doubt it. I don't think he's getting a lot 204 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: of commissions with this attitude. 205 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, Yeah, dude, I survived off missions of 206 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: my retail used to work at Nike sponsor yeah oh shoot, yeah, 207 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: not sponsor. It shucks. It was actually really fun. 208 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: But he worked at Australia Nike. 209 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Australian, and they paid actually decent. It was into 210 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: Australian dollars. But yeah, dude, and I got fat. Well, 211 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: I didn' get fat commissioned. I got one percent, but 212 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: it was still good. It was still good. God something, 213 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: it was something. The other reason I told my parents 214 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: was because we were looking at a home to buy, 215 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: but those plans have changed and he wants to stay 216 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: in our apartments. And that was before he mentioned anything 217 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: about suing the company. He said he didn't mind making 218 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: less if it meant having more respect, and I was 219 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: willing to try and work things out if he considered 220 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: therapy or couple's counseling. But now that he's refused and 221 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: doubled down, I told him that I'm reconsidering and he 222 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: didn't like that and said I wasn't on his side, 223 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: just like his boss. 224 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: Everyone's working against me. 225 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: So I feel like he's about to just completely implode 226 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: his relationship and his career. 227 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just making these choices, these huge choices, and 228 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm in the right and no one understands me, 229 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: and you're all you are all haters and I don't 230 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: need you. And then he's gonna like walk out and 231 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: put sunglasses on. 232 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: So same boss who recommended him for the vacancy and 233 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: gave him the award and has been distant. 234 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: Since, Yeah, because he's insulted him. 235 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: He's slept by himself on the couch and even ate 236 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: dinner on his own the past few nights. And I'm 237 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: trying to see if my parents can let me bring 238 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: some stuff to their place come Friday. Okay, really quick. 239 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like they're like thinking about separating. 240 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: Sounds like it well because op he was saying, there's 241 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: a lot of other problems in the relationship, and she 242 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: suggested couples counseling and he was like, no, yeah, and 243 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: if you're not. 244 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: If you're not gonna it sounds like she's like down 245 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: to work on it, because it's not anything. There's not 246 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: like a big thing that's causing him the breakup. But 247 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like he's not giving an inch. 248 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, just not listening to anyone. 249 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I feel like he threw everything away for 250 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: no reason, got a great review on his training, made 251 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: an issue out of nothing when they're was none. Learning 252 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: about everything he kept for me still hurts, and I 253 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: might try to talk to someone myself, but it really 254 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: hurts because he basically said I never knew him at work, 255 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: and maybe that's just how he is when he's not 256 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: with me at it. The idea to reject the award 257 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: came from Captain America, the Winter Soldier, and the guy 258 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: who was reference in the movie for rejecting the Nobel 259 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Peace Prize from what he told me, but he didn't 260 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: even know the guy's name or anything beyond it came 261 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: from the movie because he's a big Marvel fan. He 262 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: also said it was a selfless thing to do and 263 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: showed he wasn't a management awards suck up to his 264 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: co workers who'd appreciate a down to earth manager when 265 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: he crossed over into management. He also said it was 266 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: something selfless Captain America would do. He said he wants 267 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: to sue because he was wrongfully removed from consideration for 268 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: the position for personally not liking awards despite a great 269 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: written review on his training assignment, and that it would 270 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: help fellow employees who felt pressure to take management awards 271 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: to move up because he believes that all awards are 272 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: participation in trophies. As a result of trying to talk 273 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: to him and see if he'd be interested in couple's therapy, 274 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: he refused to think that he did anything wrong and 275 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: still plans to sue. And I based my reconsidering of 276 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the relationship on his willingness to get counseling. I will 277 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: be trying to move everything to my parents on Friday, 278 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: but he's been treating me as if I don't exist 279 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: because he knows that I'm done. He's eating dinner alone, 280 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: slept alone, and barely says a word to me and 281 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: anymore because I'm attacking him like his boss. So I'm 282 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: trying to get to Friday, but it's been hard because 283 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: he's turned on me. There are relevant comments and an 284 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: update this guy's whack question. Yeah, do you think there's 285 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: something else going. 286 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: On mental, mentally or in his life? 287 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Like I feel like this is a sudden turn and 288 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: there must be something going on in his life that 289 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: we're not privy to, because to implode his well over 290 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Captain America career. Yeah, maybe he was really inspired by 291 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: by The Winter Soldier. Yeah, but to implode your career 292 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: and relationship over a movie feels kind of crazy. 293 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: I agree. 294 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: He's like coptain in a Mayorerica wouldn't get therapy. Why 295 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: would I? 296 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. 297 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: Because Captain America would get therapy. 298 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: Captain totally would get therapy. Therapy. Yeah, he's really an 299 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: active therapy. 300 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: He's like like this girl that I love invent therapy 301 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: died while I was in the ice of old age. 302 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Like he's a lot to talk about, man, a lot 303 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: to talk about. Yeah, honestly, I totally understand what she's considering, like, 304 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: you know, ending this relationship because this is weird. It 305 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: was weird, this weird behavior. 306 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: But we got someone living comments updates, so everyone else 307 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: is giving you good advice. So I just want to 308 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: bring up something else. The guy he's quoting from The 309 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Winter Soldier is Nick Fury talking about Alexander Pierce, the 310 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: guy who rejected the Nobel Peace Prize because he said 311 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: peace wasn't an achievement. It was a responsibility. Alexander Pierce 312 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: turns out to be the villain of the movie spoilers, 313 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: but Pierce is a hydra agent, the coded fascist and 314 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: antagonist organization of the movie movies and tries to is 315 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: about unliving millions of people for the sake of peace 316 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: before being soot by Captain America. Like your boyfriend's apparently 317 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: a Marvel fan but looks up to the fascist, genocidal 318 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: maniac for his wife quotes and work ethic. I mean, 319 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: he is sort of destroying himself for the sake of 320 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: his own ego while also taking you down with him. 321 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: Falls in line with a lot of Marvel villains. To 322 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: be honest, cap isn't the one rejecting the award, and 323 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Opie responds, it's crazy how he based his whole decision 324 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: around a movie that maybe he didn't even fully understand, 325 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: and now he wants to sue the company for the 326 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: employees you felt pressured to accept management rewards because he 327 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: thinks he's fighting for them or something, along with how 328 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: he was wrongfully refused the position for not liking awards, 329 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: which shows how he doesn't get it, but he thinks 330 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: he's a hero for fighting for other employees. Man is delusion. 331 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just this is the weirdest hill to die on. 332 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: I don't understand. He's like, I have to do it 333 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: for the little guy, But what are you actually doing? 334 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: And I really don't think people are as up in 335 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: arms about these man cares. 336 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: About these wars? 337 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: You are. 338 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: No one cares about these, No one cares. 339 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: No one cares. But op On ending her relationship with 340 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,239 Speaker 1: Fyance as he might have mental health issues. Ohpi responds, 341 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at, and I'm just trying to get 342 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: everything to my parents at the moment. He literally said 343 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: he was doing a selfless thing by returning it and 344 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to get it. And he didn't seem to 345 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: care when I told him how my feelings were hurt. 346 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: No, he doesn't care. He's on his crusade right now. 347 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't care about anybody else. 348 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: I literally thought everything was going great at his job, 349 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: and it sounded like it was until he's self sabotage 350 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: for some reason. Like I was surprised because I read 351 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: his review from the vacancy training and it was really 352 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: good and he developed a good relationship with his boss 353 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: who recommended him for it up until the award thing. 354 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to the update, y'all. Oh yeah, Sofia, what 355 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: do you think about this guy? 356 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: He's weird. He's weird. Man, I'm divorce divorce, I mean 357 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: actually pretty woresome? 358 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Is Beyonce by update. So returning to this because a 359 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: lot of people reached out and were helpful, and I 360 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone who did. I'm currently at my parents and 361 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: my ex fiance was pestering me to move everything to 362 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: their home before Friday, when I eventually did, and it 363 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: was really stressful. However, he did something that I didn't 364 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: expect before I moved on Friday, and I'm still dealing 365 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: with and a lot of friends and family know about 366 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: it now because of what he did before I got 367 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: around to telling them. What do you think he did 368 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: for you? 369 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have any ideas well. 370 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Apparently he made a Facebook post. It was pretty long, 371 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: and he posted it on Twitter. To long story short, 372 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: he addressed the coworkers about what happened with his promotion 373 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and said that many of them were likely wondering what 374 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: had happened, and that he wanted to explain his side 375 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: before the wrong people did. 376 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: The thing is, not only did people not care about 377 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: these awards, they also don't care about you. 378 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: But he's Captain America. 379 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: So I have to get ahead of this story before 380 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: it breaks. Yeah. 381 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: He wrote that his bosses rescinded the promotion because he 382 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: told his bosses that he didn't like awards, and he 383 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: included the manager's name. 384 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: Fired. 385 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Hey, that's how you get a promotion. You call out 386 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: publicly on social media the people who can get you 387 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: a promotion. 388 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you say I want a promotion. 389 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Yep, and you're a side yep, dude, one simple hack easy. 390 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: He wrote about his conversation with his boss and how 391 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: he respectfully spoke to him in his office instead of 392 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: refusing the award at the meeting because he wanted to 393 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: show respect. He also said that his manager previously knew 394 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: about his anxiety surrounding awards and chose to give it 395 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: to him anyway when he knew it would hurt his focus. 396 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: But he never once mentioned anything about anxiety to me, 397 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: and I was just making things up. He never mentioned 398 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: anxiety in the past, and he never mentioned that he 399 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: spoke to his boss about anxiety too. 400 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Because I doubt I doubt he actually did I. 401 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: Think he's just trying to make himself a victim. 402 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to twist anything that he can to 403 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: victimize himself be the hero in the story. 404 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: He also left out what he told me about how 405 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: he was emotional when he spoke to his boss and 406 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: said some things he probably shouldn't have. He left out 407 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the part about being blindsided by the award and don't 408 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: ever give me awards ever again. And my dad thinks 409 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: he's lying about having talked to his boss about anxiety 410 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: to look like a martyr. 411 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. 412 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Also, I feel like Opie's parents do not like this 413 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: guy Jesus, like he's a bloody matter. He thinks he 414 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: made it up to draw pity, and the rest of 415 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: his post made him think that too. When he wrote 416 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: about how he was going to sue the company, he 417 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: said he was doing it for others who may feel 418 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: pressured to take awards in order to move up. 419 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: He's phrasing it like it's, you know, like when people 420 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: feel pressured to sleep with managers. He's that's how he's 421 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: phrasing it. He's like, they feel pressure to take these 422 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 2: awards to move up in their careers. But I won't 423 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: let that happen, which is the those are not those 424 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: are not the same things. These are awards. These are 425 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: like nice things where they're like, oh, I'm going to 426 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: show appreciation. 427 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think he just wants to be 428 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the main character. 429 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: I think so too. I think he's like bored in 430 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: his life. He was bored in his life and he's 431 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: like yeah, and he's like, well, I can't choot on 432 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: my fiance. I'm going to start a revolution at my work. Yeah. 433 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: I feel it's like, you know, like those politicians that 434 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: like run and then they're like, my daughter twice removed 435 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: on my mother's cousin's side, got ran over by the train. 436 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: So my policy is trained safety. You know. It's just 437 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: like he's just choosing like a random thing to stick 438 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: his flag into, and that he was fighting for them. 439 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: He said it was unfair of his boss to refuse 440 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: him for mental health reasons he knew beforehand, and he 441 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: wanted to pave the way for others with mental health challenges. 442 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: He also said he was inspired by NBA player Kyrie Irving. 443 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: He's also a basketball player. 444 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: Needs to stop being inspired by people who refuse to 445 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: get vaccinated and sacrific my salary slash backlash. 446 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: The Brooklyn Nets didn't allow him to play for many 447 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: games due to being unvaccinated to be a voice or 448 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: the voiceless so. 449 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: Of the people that he's inspired by. It's a fascist 450 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: leader and an anti vaxxer. 451 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: Basketball player, basketball player, bro, I don't know about you. 452 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: He wanted to be a voice with a voiceless for 453 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: other people who didn't want to be vaccinated. And while 454 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: he disagreed with Kyrie's stance on vaccinations, we are both vaccinated. 455 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: What he's like, Yeah, I disagree with like the whole 456 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: anti vaccine disagree, and I disagree with the whole fascist thing. 457 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: But I just want you to know that my two 458 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: favorite people that I admire most are a fascist and 459 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: an anti vaxxer. 460 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: I just wanted to he stood his ground. 461 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: Also, Kyrie Irving is a flat earther too. Apparently that's funny. 462 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: But he plays with the round ball. 463 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's good at it. He must be good 464 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: at brain things, you know, a brain's. He admired how 465 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: he fought and forced the Brooklyn Nets to play him 466 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: and cave as they struggled in the standing slash injuries 467 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: and showed that corporations would eventually cave to employees. I 468 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know if you have the stiles. I don't know 469 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: if you're this way you think you do. 470 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 2: These are the worst examples you could have possibly chosen. 471 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: Heidi says he sounds like a moron. 472 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: Yes, he sounds stupid Like Kiri. 473 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: My ex fiance said he wanted to be a voice 474 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: for the voiceless who felt pressured to accept awards to 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: move up at his job. He also said he wanted 476 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: to make management cave to him and that was the 477 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: reason he was suing for the employees, it's not for 478 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: himself creators. He also wrote that I had broken up 479 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: with him because I didn't support his mental health condition, 480 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: just like his boss. But he never once mentioned anything 481 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: related to mental health to me. Ever, Hack he left 482 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: out all the details about how he told his boss off, 483 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: and my dad said he might be making it up 484 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: to create a case so when he knows he has none, 485 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: or just wants to smear the company. Dad has also 486 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: begun calling him the fake Captain America from Falcon and 487 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the Winter Soldier, and he showed me some clips about 488 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: the TV show. I asked what he meant so this. 489 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: Is accurate though, because I hated that guy he like. 490 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: So the plot of The Wenches Soldier is that there's 491 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: this one guy who kind of steps up to become 492 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: Captain America while Sam is also trying to become Captain 493 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: America or is Captain America and the fake guy he like, 494 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 2: goes on this like government backed rampage where he's like, 495 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: I need to stop this rebellion that's going on, and 496 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: then he like alive someone like who's part of the 497 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: rebels or whatever? And then did they just gloss over that? 498 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, yeah, but he learned his lesson. He's 499 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: actually he tries to save a. 500 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: Bus out are you telling me about it? 501 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: Maybe? So angry They like he got the redemption arc 502 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 2: and the rebel leader who actually was good didn't. That's ridiculous. 503 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: That is this guy, Sophia Callan says, sounds like a 504 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: manic episode. 505 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: Maybe if this is all like really sudden. 506 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: Stuff, it feels completely Yeah, it. 507 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: Feels like the bos didn't see it coming, and Ope 508 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 2: didn't see it coming. 509 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: So going back to my ex fiance, he also wrote 510 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: he was glad to find find out I didn't support 511 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: mental health before we had kids, which really surprised me 512 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: because I suggested couple's counseling together, but he told me 513 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: he didn't need it because he did nothing wrong. He 514 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: also wrote that I refuse to spicy sleep with him 515 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: after he opened up about his anxiety, when he was 516 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: the one who opted to sleep away from me on 517 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: the couch after he accused me of not supporting him 518 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: like his boss. He also said he was talking to 519 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: someone he knew who was a union shop steward for advice, 520 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: and he said there'd be more in the future too. 521 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: A lot of friends and relatives called me and my 522 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: parents in the aftermath of his post, mostly those who 523 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: saw the Facebook one I was tagged in, and my 524 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: parents and I have been telling them our side. I 525 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: also received dms from people telling me off for not 526 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: supporting his mental health, who I'm guessing are his friends, 527 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: and some of them were really vulgar too. That only 528 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: happened on my Instagram, but I blocked them since because 529 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know them. But it's been stressful after he 530 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: tagged me in his post, and I'm honestly tired of 531 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: repeating myself to everyone. I don't believe in engaging him 532 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: slash drama on social media, so I've continued to explain 533 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: to everyone who's reaching out with the help of my parents. 534 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: The other thing that sucks is how he called my 535 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: job after I moved out and told them that I 536 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: said a lot of ablest things about him and his 537 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: mental health conditions, which wasn't true. 538 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: What is he doing? 539 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: I feel like OPI is trying to run and he's 540 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: just dragging her back in. 541 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is he doing? He's pulling every he's making 542 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: the super public. 543 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: And while I don't think it'll amount to anything, I 544 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: had to speak with HR about it, which surprised me. 545 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: Dad doesn't think anything will come from it either, but 546 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: he's been livid and I am, honestly too. Dad has 547 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: also suggested a lawyer after how he called my job, 548 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's something we're investigating for, maybe defamation, don't know 549 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: if that's a proper term, but maybe something in the 550 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: ballpark of what he's doing. I just hope he stops, 551 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: but he doesn't seem to be from his post and 552 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: calling my job, and he said there'd be more to 553 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: come to I just I hope he stops with me 554 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: at least because I could care less if he wants 555 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: to sue on his own, but we will see what 556 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: Dad and I come up with with a lawyer and edit. 557 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to clarify something that many people seemed unsure about. 558 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Some people ask if he really is in the running 559 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: for promotion or if he made that up? 560 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, was he just lying this whole time? 561 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: I mean he's lying about so much, so maybe a 562 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: p to pass him. I saw a physical review that 563 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: he brought home, detailing of the training assignment and the 564 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: scores of the duties he performed when it was done, 565 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: and it was related to the position he was training for. 566 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: The scores were really good and he had no deckad 567 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: of marks about the training. Returning award was unrelated to 568 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: the training. His manager also took him out to dinner 569 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: a few weeks before he returned the reward. In regards 570 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: to the promotion too, I also saw some confusing stuff 571 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: about when my ex fiance returned the award, and many 572 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: asked if he returned it during the meeting to make 573 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: a statement to his coworkers. He returned it after the 574 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: meeting and after spending time at his desk, where he 575 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: said he was uneasy and that led him to go 576 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: to his manager's office where he told him to never 577 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: give him an award again. Okay, so he didn't do 578 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: that in public. 579 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it still doesn't change. 580 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Much in regards to how he showed his coworkers. He 581 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: wasn't a suck up, he said he told them in 582 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: passing in the days after he returned it to the boss, 583 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: which is the kind of public part of it. 584 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Yes, and what did they say? Were they like, that's cool? 585 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I can't imagine that it 586 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: would come. 587 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, if someone told me that, they were like, oh, 588 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 2: the boss try to give me an award, and I 589 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: was like, no, can't do that. I'm fine. For the 590 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: little man, I'll be like, okay. 591 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: Cool, cool. Nice. The award had nothing to do with 592 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the promotion he was training for and wasn't a certificate 593 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: needed for it. The order was given for how he 594 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: helped others on Microsoft teams through screen sharing, when the 595 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: boss asked him to assist others many times, and it 596 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: wasn't related to his training assignments. And there is another update. 597 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: Mana man, man a man. Belton says, oh mg, he 598 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 2: wants to be a martyr so bad. 599 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what do you do with this guy 600 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: trying to ruin everything and. 601 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: He's calling you've broken up? 602 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: Basically, Well, I feel like we're in like restraining order territory. 603 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: I think so. I think you could sue him for 604 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: like libel or whatever. 605 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just like like he's trying to get 606 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: you fired. 607 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lible if it's written, or it slander I forget. 608 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: I think I think is written. 609 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: But we got another update. Oh boy, this will probably 610 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: be my last update for a while, so I decided 611 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: to make it and edit instead, since it seems to 612 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: surpass the amount of updates I can have on the subbreddit. 613 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: So my dad was able to get in touch with 614 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: a lawyer and he agreed with the suggestion that many 615 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: gave to send a cease and desist letter to my ex. 616 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: We'll call him Nate, specifically for contacting my job along 617 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: with posting slash tagging me on his social media rants. 618 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: We are considering other action too, but I wanted to 619 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: touch on that because Many suggested it. Things have also 620 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: quieted down at my job since HR called me in 621 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: to talk about how Nate called them, and we had 622 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: another meeting too. Long story short, I gave them the 623 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: full picture, and they agree that he was being vindictive. 624 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: I also showed them the social media rant he made 625 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: and that cemented just how delusional he was. However, Dad 626 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: suggested something else too. He suggested that I call my 627 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: ex's company to see if I could speak to someone there, 628 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: and I was able to speak with Nate's manager after 629 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: explaining who I was to someone else. He ended up 630 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: calling me back on the same day, and I told 631 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: him that I just wanted to ask him about a 632 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: few things, so I think we're going to get the truth. 633 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I told him we'll call him John about how Nate 634 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: had become my ex after his Facebook rant, and he 635 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: said he saw it too from an employee who showed him. 636 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I also told him about how he contacted my job too. 637 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: When I asked about the promotion that Nate was training for, 638 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: he confirmed it was real and that Nate was the 639 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: only candidate, and he opened up about his decision to 640 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: recommend him. He said he saw potential in Nate since 641 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: he started working there in college as an intern, and 642 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: he called him a hard worker who was younger then, 643 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: but he tried to support him. He gave him extra 644 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: work that resulted in more hours when he wanted more 645 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: in his early days. He also helped him become full 646 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: time too. He said he was smart honors in high 647 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: school and college, and it showed at work too. He 648 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: also said Nate used to be humble and appreciative. 649 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: Until he got too humble and in the background to boastful. 650 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I also liked that we're getting the whole war. 651 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like Nate's like, I built this 652 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: company from nothing, Nate. 653 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's thinking to the bust is like, 654 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just wanted to help him out. 655 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 656 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: He seemed like a good kid, barely. 657 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Not barely not only maybe, I don't know. He's gotta 658 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: be going through something. 659 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: I think so I think. I mean, he's brought up 660 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: a lot about like mental health and stuff and anxiety, 661 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: so there must be some sliver of truth in there. 662 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: You gotta believe it. 663 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: You gotta believe. 664 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: He also said Nate used to be humble and appreciative, 665 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: but that he let it go to his head somewhere 666 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: along the way. His annual reviews were among the best, 667 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: and he recommended him for the vacancy that was opening 668 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: up because he thought he'd do well. He called him 669 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: into the office and told him that he wanted to 670 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: offer him training for the vacancy. Belton says, the boss 671 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: really shouldn't be talking about this too. 672 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's just kind of telling her everything. He's like, yeah, you, 673 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: this happen to you too, Let's chat, let's have a 674 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: little goss session. 675 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Is that? 676 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: Like? 677 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that would be an HR issue. I 678 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: think so, Ts says from an HR standpoint, his returning 679 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: the award would put me off because it would show 680 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: that he's not a team player. Not a phrase I like, 681 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: but it'd make me worry about him, and he'd be 682 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: on my HR radar. Tia, tying into your HR radar? 683 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about this whole situation talking to 684 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: the boss, of talking to the boss and the boss 685 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: divulging all of this. Is that does that get in 686 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: your HR radar too? Let us know? 687 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: Does that set off your HR senses? 688 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Mighty senses? Yeah, let us know. And they wanted to 689 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: offer him training for the vacancy, and it would have 690 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: come with a nice raise too. They wanted to hire 691 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: within and he wanted to reward him for his hard work. 692 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: And Tis said, yuph. 693 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: Oh, it does set off the senses. 694 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, set off the senses. 695 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: So maybe there is something going on in this workplace. 696 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: It's a little fishy. 697 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: There was no applying for the vacancy at all. He 698 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: asked if he was interested, and he said that he was, 699 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: and he began training shortly after. The training lasted a 700 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: few months, but he said he aced it. When I 701 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: told him that he showed me the review of his training, 702 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: he said it was true and that he did well. 703 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: But when it came to the award, he got to 704 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: buddy buddy with how he talked to him, and he 705 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: told me some things that I didn't know. My ex 706 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: told me that the award was for helping people through 707 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: Microsoft Teams through screen sharing, but he received it for 708 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: far more than that. He would stay late to help 709 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: people with assignments that were not his responsibility and he 710 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: helped someone meet a deadline by staying late when it 711 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: would have been late otherwise. In regard to the award, 712 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: he received a certificate along with PTO during the meeting, 713 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 1: So what's the auto vacation. 714 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: This is not even a participation trophy. This is an 715 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: actual award. 716 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: He got stuff, He got something for it. Hy yay 717 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: yai and John said he shifully accepted it. However, sometime 718 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: after the meeting on that same day, Nate went to 719 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: his office and he was unlike himself. But when John 720 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: asked if something was wrong, Nate went off the rails 721 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: and looked stressed. I wonder why he's stressed. When I 722 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: asked if Nate told him to never give him an 723 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: award again, he confirmed that he did. Along with the 724 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: blindsiding comments, he also raised his voice and used some profanities. 725 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: So even it's gone through this kind of telephone thing 726 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 2: of what actually happened, Like there was profanity and yelling, 727 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: and then it goes to op and it's like, oh, 728 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: I told him that he blindsided me. And then it 729 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 2: goes to Facebook and it's like might didn't do anything. 730 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 2: It was very played lies. 731 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Yes, John tried to calm him down, and he wouldn't 732 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: have it. He stormed out of the office and left 733 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: the award there. But then when his boss tried to 734 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: find him a few minutes later, he found that he 735 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: had left almost an hour earlier than he should have 736 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: clocked out. He tried to call him to see if 737 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: he was all right. Answer to two consecutive calls and 738 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I had no liu about him leaving early. When he 739 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: came in the next day, his boss went to his 740 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: cubicle and asked if everything was all right, But when 741 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: he asked if they could talk in his office, Nate 742 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: refused and said there was nothing to talk about. But 743 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: when John said he wanted to make sure he was fine, 744 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: he cursed at him from his cubicle and others heard 745 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: it too, So while his training review came back sensational, 746 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: John said that effectively ended his chances for promotion because 747 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: he was done with him. I mean obviously that that 748 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: would make you done with them, because he cursed out 749 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the boss. Yeah, you can't do that. He tried to 750 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: be reasonable and gave him a chance to explain himself 751 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: instead of getting on him for leaving early, but he 752 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: spat in his face, like metaphorically, I think legitimately. 753 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: Physically literally literally we there a sentence. 754 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: I just realized I parked on the street without a 755 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: thing to check real check one second pause. 756 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: Tia says anytime an employees speaks to anyone outside of 757 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: the company, whether it's a partner or a parent, it 758 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: can be a violation of company policy as well. But 759 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: I understand the desire to help. Eleana Bain says, I 760 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: know more bad than good ones. I had a therapist 761 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 2: that asked me if I had a kid every session 762 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: and hit on me when he would come into work. 763 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 2: Bell says, Sam your car. I was quick. Sam's not gout. 764 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: He's not back yet. Dutchesscausanda says, does this man have 765 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 2: a brain tumor or something mental break? The sudden change 766 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: is concerning. I agree, and I don't understand this. Again, 767 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: like we've already heard from Opie and the boss that 768 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: this behavior was totally out of the blue. Like OPI 769 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: was like, I did not recognize it. Well, no, no, 770 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, maybe maybe there was a chance 771 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: that there was something happening with the fiance for her 772 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: to be willing to go to the couple's counseling, So 773 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 2: maybe this was an ongoing problem. But I think this 774 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: does just this behavior alone would merit couple's counseling. Irish 775 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: Gig says, spinning on someone is disgusting. I think this 776 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: man is headed for a breakdown. Yeah, or well underwent 777 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: given the people that he's trying to emulate, It's it's 778 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: not not look him too good. For this man. I 779 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: think his name is Nick. Thought his name was Nate. 780 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: Maybe his name is I think his name is Nate. Yeah, man, 781 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 2: oh man, what's another thing that's I'm trying to think 782 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: of my other life updates? M m m oh. I'm 783 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: in a I do like a little sketch. I have 784 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: a sketch comedy group, and we worked on some sketches 785 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: for our next show, What's Happening? And I read two 786 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 2: of mine and they were very well received, So I'm 787 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: excited excited to perform them because I haven't written. I've 788 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: done a lot of writing in general, especially for my 789 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: my major, but I haven't done a lot of like 790 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: play and sketch writing. So it was fun to fun 791 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: to dabble in that for this TSAs as an EmPATH, 792 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 2: I'd probably want to speak to the spouse slash partner, 793 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: but I'd have to stick with the professionalism. Honestly, it's 794 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 2: not a black or white situation. Yeah, I agree, I agree? 795 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: What else? 796 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, anyone else watching uh British Bake Off? 797 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: Because it's getting crazy. We're at the we're about to 798 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 2: be at the final, very crazy crazy stuff. I think 799 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Sam's returned. Did you get a ticket. Oh you're not Sam. Hello, awesome, 800 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: it's Dakota. Come take a seat. I was, well, we're 801 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: taking palls in the store because Sam forgot he talked 802 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: without a thing for a world of hurts, world of 803 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 2: heart parking many a time, many a time. I actually 804 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: shouldn't be up here right now. Riley's probably he finds 805 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 2: that I sat down here, So bye everybody. He's leaving again. 806 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: Jamie Spanglis says, have you listened to Amy Poehler's book 807 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: on audible? By chance? I think you like it. She 808 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: also does a lot of sketch comedy. Dakota says, poking 809 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: a dead frog question mark. I have not read it, 810 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: but I'll check it out because I am interested in 811 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: reading about that stuff. I did you know what I 812 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: did listen to on audible that's free. It's called Cold Country, 813 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 2: and it's kind of like an audible play, I would say, 814 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: where you're just hearing from different people's stories and stuff, 815 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: and it's about this, Uh, there is a case against 816 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: a big company, like a big coal company, for improper 817 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: conditions in a coal mine, and so all of the 818 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: coal miners and their families are coming up to kind 819 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: of talk about try and try and get them or 820 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: try and sue them and stuff and get them in jail. 821 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: But it was really good. It was called the Coal Country. 822 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: It's like an I don't know, it was like an 823 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 2: hour and a half or something. My mom and I 824 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: listened to in the car. Loved it. It's just very 825 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: it's very I think it was very well produced, like 826 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: there was music and there was singing in it, and 827 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: just like the storytelling and the acting and it was 828 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 2: very very beautiful. Also, Apriy from the Swaps, thank you. 829 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: It's very sweet Tea says Mandy. Kaling's autobiographies are fantastic. 830 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: I laughed to tears. Belton says, we just want to 831 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 2: talk the coal miners. Yeah, that's basically the vibe. But 832 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: it's so like sad and heartbreaking. And Sam has returned 833 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 2: what's no ticket? Oh smart? 834 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Okay, back into it, back into it. So I didn't 835 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,959 Speaker 1: tell Hr about how he returned the award the day 836 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: before because he wanted to give him a chance and 837 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: felt that he might have triggered some trauma. But when 838 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: he cursed at him the following day, that was it. Yeah, 839 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: he told his manager Slash Hr everything that happened and 840 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: said he was wrong about him and wasn't mature enough. 841 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: And he said it hurt because he put himself out 842 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: on a limb to recommend him when the other managers 843 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: wanted to hire someone older. Throughout our conversation, he kept 844 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: saying that he was a good kid and that he 845 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: saw himself and him. But the more he thought about it, 846 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 1: he said he might have had a silver spoon grown 847 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: up because he never learned how to be personable during stress, 848 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: which was essential for management. That's true to his last point. 849 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: My dad agreed with his assumption of Nate Honor Society 850 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: and high school slash college along with Dean's list two. 851 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: His parents didn't require him to work when he worked 852 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: in retail. He wanted to work because his friends were 853 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: going to work there as long as his grades were good. 854 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: His parents paid for gas, bought him a car, never 855 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: requested for him to work, and paid for college too. 856 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: I paid for my own college and took semesters off 857 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: because I couldn't always afford it with fluctuating hours. But 858 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: when people asked how, I didn't see this side of him. 859 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: He was always nice when things were going well, and 860 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: his bosses said so too. Giving him the award triggered 861 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: something and he wasn't mature enough to have a conversation 862 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: about it. Nate would often surprise me with flowers slash 863 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: other gifts, and we'd watch movies slash have fun. But 864 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: when he became stressed with the award, his immaturity showed 865 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: when he accused me of taking his manager's side and 866 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: began to treat me differently. By the way, don't treat 867 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: us differently by joining our live every weekday three pm 868 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: PSD right here on YouTube and Facebook. 869 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 2: Stop our profile. 870 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: There's another relevant update. But I don't know. How do 871 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: we feel about this guy? 872 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, one very strange. I'll back today like 873 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: to you, And I think Belton's point very strange that 874 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 2: the boss is just divulging this whole hole. It feels 875 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 2: a little bit and a reach, I don't know. But 876 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: also going into what he said, it does feel like 877 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: maybe their life was just going really well, like everything 878 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: was really looking up for him and then this one 879 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 2: thing that just didn't quite go his ways. 880 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: I can't do it, yeah, and he like went off, Yeah, No, 881 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: I think a measure of a person's character is not 882 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: how things are when things are good, but when things 883 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: are bad, it's true. This is true, This is true? 884 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 2: Is the boy and Caitlyn Greswell, thank you for the 885 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: five bucks. I got a notification yesterday that the snacks 886 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 2: I sent you should have arrived. 887 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: Let's go. I love snacks. But my dad said that 888 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: everything at work had gone right for him leading up 889 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: to the award, but at that moment probably triggered something 890 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: and showed he wasn't reliable when crap hit the fan 891 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: because it was everyone else's fault. He also didn't blame 892 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: me for not seeing it sooner because he was probably 893 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: spoiled and protected by his parents at every turn. He 894 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: also said that John didn't see it either after working 895 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: with Nate for almost five years until getting triggered. I 896 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: still blame myself for not seeing it sooner, but this 897 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: was the first time I've seen him really bothered by 898 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: something that wasn't even bad. The award was a good thing, 899 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: but it is what it is. He made another post 900 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: talking about a live stream he was gonna do along 901 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: with his shop Steward, but I won't address it in 902 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: this update because it's getting too long. We're working on 903 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: the cease and desist letter, and this is the first 904 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: step right now. I appreciate everyone who reached out. It's 905 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: been a lot having to explain friends and family who 906 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: saw me tagging his original rant, but taking things one 907 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: day at a time because what else can you do? 908 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: And that's where that story ends. Man oh Man, Man 909 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: really imploded his whole life. 910 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's he's kind of he probably doesn't 911 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: have any money or a job, so he's becoming a 912 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: streamer just to talk about his Yeah, and that you've. 913 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: Stated the most boring stream to start off. 914 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's gonna be like, Okay, that's it. 915 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm doing it for the little man. 916 00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 917 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty chains like your chains. But I feel like 918 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: we might need to read one more short story to 919 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: be on time. All right,