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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 1: Very pleased to have you with us here.

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Speaker 2: Clay is doing golf today, a couple of golf days

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: He says that when you see some of.

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Speaker 2: The videotaped swings that he has put forth on the course,

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Speaker 2: it will make Happy Gilmore look like he didn't know

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Speaker 2: how to swing at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: He's talking a big game about it. So we shall

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Speaker 2: see and we will get into more of that with

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Speaker 2: him tomorrow. I'll be back tomorrow. I'll actually be out

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Speaker 2: in Arizona tomorrow, which I'm looking forward to, I believe

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Speaker 2: it or not. I have two great states that in

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Speaker 2: just recent recent time here I haven't well, I have

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Speaker 2: never visited before, and we'll have recently been to one

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Speaker 2: being Colorado, first ever time in Colorado recently, lovely place.

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Speaker 1: And Arizona. I've actually never been to Arizona and the

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Speaker 1: Bagdad a few times, as I like to say.

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Speaker 2: Never been to Arizona, so I need to get there.

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Speaker 2: I'll be there tomorrow, looking forward to it, all right.

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of stuff, a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff to dive into. We have a Congress and Jim

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Speaker 2: Jordan with us talking to him. Second hour, we'll discuss oh,

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Speaker 2: so many things, the economy, the Trump Agenda, America, the restoration,

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Speaker 2: all those good things. And then Senator Marshall Blackburn third hour,

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Speaker 2: we'll speak with her about the immigration and the deportation

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Speaker 2: flights and also the economies. I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are focused in on that. And remember it was

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Speaker 2: just yesterday Trump tweeted out or I guess it's truthed

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Speaker 2: out that it is Liberation Day and that refers to

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Speaker 2: the tariffs. Now there's a whole bunch of tariffs. White

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Speaker 2: House has put out a lot of information about this.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of tariffs that are taking effect.

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Speaker 2: Here's what we know, President Trump. This is from the

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Speaker 2: White House. President Trump invoking his authority under the International

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Speaker 2: Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen seventy seven to address

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Speaker 2: the emergency posed by the large and persistent trade deficit

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Speaker 2: that is driven by the absence of reciprocity in our

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Speaker 2: trade relationships and other harmful policies like currency manipulation and

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Speaker 2: exorbitant value added taxes that tax perpetuated by other countries.

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Speaker 2: Under this i EPA, authority, President trumpel impose a ten

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Speaker 2: percent tariff on all countries, going into effect April fifth.

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Speaker 2: And then President trumpelam pose an additional reciprocal tariff on

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Speaker 2: countries with which the United States has the largest trade deficits.

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Speaker 2: All other countries will continue to be subject to the

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Speaker 2: original ten percent that will take effect April nine.

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Speaker 1: And now there's more.

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Speaker 2: Specificity about this, and it goes into US Mexico Canada agreement.

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Speaker 2: How that plays into this. So there are some some

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Speaker 2: goods are not part of the reciprocal tariff, steel, aluminum,

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Speaker 2: model parts. So there's a lot of stuff going on,

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Speaker 2: and it's big. I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 2: act like this is a small potatoes. It's a big

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Speaker 2: deal economically. And I think that first off, the best

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Speaker 2: way to do this is to allow President Trump to

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Speaker 2: make the case to you based on what he said

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Speaker 2: yesterday about why this is necessary. I think it's unrealistic

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Speaker 2: that there are people out there. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 2: there are people who all they want to do is

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Speaker 2: complain about Trump. Not just Democrats, there's some Republicans too

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Speaker 2: who seem like they only want to complain about find

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Speaker 2: something even no matter how minute, remember Signal Gate a

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Speaker 2: week ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there was a journalist. The strikes all happened,

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Speaker 3: but a journalist found out, but he didn't say anything.

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Speaker 3: You know, Come on, here's what's going on right now.

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Speaker 3: Trump is trying to reorient a substantial component of our

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Speaker 3: economy to create long term benefit for the American people.

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Speaker 3: Now here is President Trump yesterday. I wanted you to

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Speaker 3: hear this. This is clips a little over a minute long.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to hear though, why are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Let's hear from the man himself.

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Speaker 2: He is absolutely committed to this. He believes in it

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Speaker 2: to his core. He has believed in it for a

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Speaker 2: very long time. Why are we doing this? Liberation Day

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Speaker 2: remarks yesterday from Trump, play cut one.

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Speaker 4: In the coming days, there will be complaints from the

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Speaker 4: globilists and the outsources and special interests and the fake news,

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Speaker 4: always fake news, will always complain.

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Speaker 1: But never forget.

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Speaker 4: Every prediction our opponent's made about trade for the last

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Speaker 4: thirty years has been proven totally wrong. They were wrong

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Speaker 4: about NAFTA, they were wrong about China, they were wrong

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Speaker 4: about the transpecific partnership, which would have been a disaster

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Speaker 4: if I didn't terminate it, if I didn't turn that

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Speaker 4: terminate that auto workers, you would have had no jobs

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Speaker 4: in this country. You would have had no jobs. I

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Speaker 4: was all going to other countries in my first term.

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Speaker 4: They said tariffs would crash the economy. Instead we built

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Speaker 4: the greatest economy in the history of the world. And again,

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Speaker 4: I have great respect for presidency of China, great respect

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Speaker 4: for China, but they were taking tremendous advantage of them

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Speaker 4: of us, and I commend them for that. I say, hey,

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Speaker 4: if you can get away with it, that's okay. But

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Speaker 4: you know, they understand exactly what's happening, and they probably

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Speaker 4: most of them are saying it's about time they did something.

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Speaker 4: But and they're gonna fight, and they're gonna fight for

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Speaker 4: everyone's going to fight. You know. It's like I say

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Speaker 4: to the leaders, look, you got to take care of

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Speaker 4: your country, but we have to start taking care of

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Speaker 4: our country now. We can't do what we've been doing

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Speaker 4: for the last fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, let's take this apart a little bit and

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Speaker 2: get into what he's saying. And notice I've been saying

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Speaker 2: it to you for a long time, but just in

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Speaker 2: advance of those remarks. What he I had made the

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Speaker 2: same case to you, which is that Trump has been

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Speaker 2: right when it comes to big issues of trade commerce,

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Speaker 2: big issues of commerce, where the consensus such as that exists.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can always argue, what is the consensus

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Speaker 2: and why do we think there is even such a thing,

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Speaker 2: but such as it exists was wrong. It was wrong

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Speaker 2: in China. Here here's you know. Trump came into office

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and on China, China, he was taking

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Speaker 2: positions that they said, oh, it's going to lead to

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Speaker 2: further back than that. It had been for decades before

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Speaker 1: I'm going back. You go back to the eighties, go

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Speaker 1: back in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: It had been the international elite consensus that if we

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Speaker 2: just give China what it wants when it comes to trade,

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Speaker 2: it will liberalize and democratize over time and everybody will win.

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Speaker 2: And they let it in the wto World Trade Organization.

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Speaker 2: That was completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of different experts and think tanks

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Speaker 2: position that all you have to do is just open

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Speaker 2: up your markets to China, and as China buys our

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Speaker 2: coca cola, and as China starts importing all of our

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Speaker 2: cheap stuff made in huge factories here, they're going to

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Speaker 2: be all about human rights and democracy and freedom.

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Speaker 1: Just give it time. Totally wrong. There's been no real

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Speaker 2: In fact, the opposite, you could argue, has occurred, and

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Speaker 2: China has become more belligerent, more bellicost more difficult to

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Speaker 1: So we made China rich.

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Speaker 2: Under the auspices of this is going to help us,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to help national security. And oh that

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Speaker 2: means that we're aware that trade and national security are

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Speaker 2: things that intersect, and that some things that are in

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Speaker 2: your national security interests are not necessarily completely in your

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Speaker 2: immediate trade interest like being able to make your own antibiotics,

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Speaker 2: being able to produce enough of your own microchips, you know,

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Speaker 2: go down the line, a whole range of things.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get more into that.

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Speaker 2: Trump though, sees this, and it takes somebody like him

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Speaker 2: and I will be clear with you about this. It's

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Speaker 2: a risk. It's a risk economically financially for the country.

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Speaker 2: But I think a couple things about it. One, it

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Speaker 2: makes sense to me as he explains it, and as

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Speaker 2: we see what's happening.

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Speaker 1: They're already having countries.

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Speaker 2: Just yesterday Israel Prime Minister that yahoo said, look, we're

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Speaker 2: getting rid of all you know what. He's right, Let's

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Speaker 2: get rid of all trade barriers with the United States

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Speaker 2: and let's just continue to build that special relationship.

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Speaker 1: Great, look at that.

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Speaker 2: There are other countries as well that have backed off

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Speaker 2: a tariff that they have or they're you know, this

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Speaker 2: from Trump, but more from Steven Miller. Yeah, massive change

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Speaker 2: It's not going to just happen overnight and be perfect.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to fix things, you have to

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Speaker 2: Trump is willing to do this. He could be on

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Speaker 2: he actually might be, but I don't think he is.

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Speaker 1: Like he is. Claying is for some. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: He's got billions of dollars, he's got grandkids and family,

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Speaker 2: sunset and enjoy himself at mar A Lago. But instead

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Speaker 2: to look at the record here. He has been right

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Speaker 2: on areas where the economic consensus has been against him.

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Speaker 1: That is a fact. And so on this one.

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Speaker 2: Again, there are a lot of people, and there are

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Speaker 2: And to them, I just say, I think Trump has

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Speaker 2: do what he does. Let's see how he negotiates. Even

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Speaker 2: Elon and some of these other very wealthy, very high

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Speaker 2: of lunatic, gender identity obsessed communists. So he says, if

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Speaker 2: you're going to be common sense, you have to be

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Speaker 2: a Republican. There's no other major political party for you

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Speaker 2: to support right now. Maybe he calls himself an independent.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I thought this was very very

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Speaker 2: astute observation from Bill Lackman. He put out on X

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Speaker 2: sometimes the best strategy in a negotiation is convincing the

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Speaker 2: other side that you are crazy. Now, I know some

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Speaker 2: of you might be like, hey, Trump's not crazy, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's not crazy. Obviously, he's crazy like a fox in

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Speaker 2: this context, meaning he's a guy who needs the other

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Speaker 2: much better that nobody will really take the time to

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Speaker 2: go back and say, hey, why were you so wrong

438
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Speaker 2: about this? But also so negative and really undermining the

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Speaker 2: necessary resetting of some of these global relationships, because that's

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Speaker 2: really what we're talking about here, you know, international trade relationships.

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Speaker 2: And then there's the Steven Miller approach, which is Stephen

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Speaker 2: Miller is he takes the intellectual approach, but he also

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Speaker 2: applies a little bit of the conan the barbarian ethic

444
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Speaker 2: to it, where he is just like, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: drive my enemy from their villages and hear the lamentations

446
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Speaker 2: of their women. Like Stephen Miller does not hold back.

447
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Speaker 2: My man has showed up ready to throw down from

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Speaker 2: day one of the first Trump term. And now, as

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Speaker 2: you know, he's a White House Deputy White House Deputy

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Speaker 2: chief of staff.

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Speaker 1: Here he is on Liberation Day.

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Speaker 2: This has cut six just laying it out there, and

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Speaker 2: I think he was hitting home runs.

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Speaker 1: Listen to it.

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Speaker 6: The announcement today is the most significant action on global

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Speaker 6: trade policy that has taken place in our lifetime. So

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Speaker 6: it's not even a close call. This is probably the

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Speaker 6: biggest event that's happened on global trade since the very

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Speaker 6: ill fated decision that we are now reversing of knocking

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Speaker 6: down all of America's trade tariffs. And revenue policies that

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Speaker 6: led to the offshoring and outsourcing of all for industries.

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Speaker 6: So this is the great reversal of that. Great portrayal

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Speaker 6: is how we look at it.

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Speaker 1: So in the.

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Speaker 6: Twentieth century, successive American presidents knocked down all of the

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Speaker 6: policies that we had to protect American industry, and they

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Speaker 6: did insane things like letting China into the World Trade

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Speaker 6: Organization as an example, and we watched all of our

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Speaker 6: factories go overseas. This is the complete reversal of that.

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Speaker 6: This is the great onshoing, the great reshoring of American

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Speaker 6: jobs and wealth. So if you look at America today,

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Speaker 6: we're totally dependent on foreign countries for the supplies to

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Speaker 6: make this country run. For all of the essential goods, materials,

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Speaker 6: manufactured products that make it possible for us to.

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Speaker 1: Live our lives.

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Speaker 6: Our cars are electronics. All the materials that go into

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Speaker 6: our homes, our buildings, our medical supplies, our entire supply

478
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Speaker 6: chains are completely embedded in foreign countries. So if there's

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Speaker 6: a national emergency of any kind in a country shuts

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Speaker 6: off an import or a foreign power embargos a sea lane,

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Speaker 6: we are then left defenseless helpless because of the decisions

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Speaker 6: that prior leaders made that President Trump is now reversing

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Speaker 6: to let all of these industries leave our country.

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Speaker 2: He's laying it out so well. And I'll get more

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Speaker 2: into the national security piece of this in a second,

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Speaker 2: because that's even more long term in the thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: we would hope, right what happens in what does the

488
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Speaker 2: world look like, given current trajectories for warfare, warfare of

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Speaker 2: the future is going to be We've just gone through

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Speaker 2: a period of twenty something years here where America in

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Speaker 2: our wars has had complete technological dominance, complete aerial dominance,

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Speaker 2: and there were really large scale policing and counterinsurgency actions

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Speaker 2: in a Rock and Afghanistan and nation building for people

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Speaker 2: that should build their own nations, and we should have

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Speaker 2: left that to them. But that's a let's just not

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Speaker 2: get not walk down that pathway right now. But there

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Speaker 2: there was a particular focus on the the you know,

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Speaker 2: the the elite individual soldier, the American soldier and all

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Speaker 2: the different things and rules. But but it was an

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Speaker 2: infantry largely infantry operations. We're talking about here right, the

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Speaker 2: war of the future that we're looking especially if we

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Speaker 2: avoid getting into these these entanglements of nation building and

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Speaker 2: trying to separate warring parties. You know, I I'm weaving here,

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Speaker 2: so I'm sorry. I got to go into this for

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Speaker 2: a second. I watched on Netflix recently. This was worth it.

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Speaker 2: This is actually worth watching Surviving black Hawk Down. And

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Speaker 2: Surviving black Hawk Down's very good, very well done series.

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Speaker 2: I read the Mark Boden book when it came out.

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Speaker 2: Actually initially it was a series of articles and then

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Speaker 2: it came out as a book. But I read it

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Speaker 2: a long time ago, and then I saw the movie.

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Speaker 2: I think the movie is one of the best war

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Speaker 2: movies I've ever seen, one of the most realistic modern

514
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Speaker 2: war movies ever made. And you know, it's just it's

515
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Speaker 2: an incredible story. It's an incredible story, and it shows

516
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Speaker 2: the bravery, the challenges, the risks that our infantry are,

517
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Speaker 2: our soldiers take in these kind of third world hell holes.

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Speaker 2: But also what the Surviving Blackhawk Down to me, at

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Speaker 2: least series adds to this is you get the a

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Speaker 2: little more of the context of what the heck.

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Speaker 1: Were we doing there?

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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton of course running the show, and we're there

523
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Speaker 2: because there's a civil war going on, you know, all

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Speaker 2: over small, but mostly we're based in Mogadishu. You got

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Speaker 2: warring factions and we're we're trying to do a humanitarian mission,

526
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Speaker 2: but then we've got apaches doing strike missions, and then

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Speaker 2: we want to do more human I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: the strategic the policy level was a disaster. And I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna say that Bill Clinton the most overrated intellect

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Speaker 2: maybe in the history of American politics.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so smart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Please, we know what Bill, We know what Bill

533
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Speaker 2: was really thinking about. And it wasn't policy in Somalia,

534
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. And I'm brave soldiers of ours paid

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Speaker 2: paid for the poor strategy and planning with their lives

536
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Speaker 2: and many of them were wounded. But I think about

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Speaker 2: this in the context of these We've learned this lesson

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Speaker 2: many times. Oh and you also, I would add to this.

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Speaker 2: You see the perspective of Somali militia leaders. They interviewed them,

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Speaker 2: which was really interesting. Who were there that day at

541
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Speaker 2: the black Hawk Down incident. You see what they were saying.

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Speaker 2: And anyway, so I would I would recommend you. I

543
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Speaker 2: know a lot of you don't like Netflix, you don't

544
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Speaker 2: want to subscribe to it, But I'm just saying, if

545
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: you do subscribe to Netflix, this is a worthwhile series.

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Speaker 2: But that was another one of these police actions. What

547
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Speaker 2: are we doing there assuming we don't do that, And

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Speaker 2: that's a lesson that we may have to just keep

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Speaker 2: in mind going forward. Right, That's something that you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at the Democrats. If Democrats see an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to send other people sons and daughters to die for

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Speaker 2: a war that they themselves would not fight in, but

553
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Speaker 2: makes them feel good about themselves at Georgetown cocktail parties, Hey,

554
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Speaker 2: that's the kind of war they want other people fighting.

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Speaker 2: So we have to remember that's not what we want.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we want to do. But the war

557
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Speaker 2: of the future is going to be based on technology,

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Speaker 2: material machinery and robotics and AI and satellite connectivity and drones.

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Speaker 2: That's very apparent. And I have friends who work in

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Speaker 2: the aerospace and defense sector, and I know people that

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Speaker 2: are that are involved in the cutting edge of this.

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Speaker 2: And why does that matter for trade? Because that really

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Speaker 2: turns into a who can make more of the best

564
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Speaker 2: stuff the fastest at the highest level wins. So it's

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Speaker 2: not just a oh, China has deeper labor costs unless

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Speaker 2: environmental regulation, so we should just let them make all

567
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Speaker 2: of our stuff. Well, if things continue to heat up,

568
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Speaker 2: remember this is not stuff you can switch on overnight.

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Speaker 2: If China has all the factories to give us all

570
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Speaker 2: this stuff for different sectors that are national security dependent,

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Speaker 2: they can turn that spigot off when they want to.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe in a couple of years we could

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Speaker 2: start to catch up. But if we go into a

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Speaker 2: hot war with China in twenty years or ten years,

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Speaker 2: or who knows, we're not going to have a few

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Speaker 2: years to play catch up. And that's what Trump and

577
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Speaker 2: his team are taking into account now as well. I

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Speaker 2: understand there's also the short term financial impacts, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk more about this, but there's a clear national security

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Speaker 2: component to the degree the amount of offshoring that we

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Speaker 2: have for our industrial base. And that's an additional conversation

582
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Speaker 2: to what do we do for the American middle class?

583
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Speaker 2: Just work, working Americans trying to pay their bills. You

584
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Speaker 2: know what happens for them? What's best for them? How

585
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Speaker 2: could you create an economy where there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of job opportunities. Of course, illegal immigration plays into this too.

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Speaker 2: Supply and demand in terms of human materi l is

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Speaker 2: also a real thing. Right, you have to look at

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Speaker 2: personnel that matters. How many people are available for a

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Speaker 2: job that matters. So all these different pieces come together.

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Speaker 2: But back on the national security piece. Here, as I

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Speaker 2: said Steven Miller laying it down yesterday on Liberation Day,

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Speaker 2: this is cut seven.

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Speaker 6: And so what he's doing today is for the first

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Speaker 6: time ever, you're saying that if you have stolen our

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Speaker 6: jobs and therefore threatens our national security, we will apply

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Speaker 6: a reciprocal tariff based on the degree of your misconduct.

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Speaker 6: So for countries like China, for example, they will see

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Speaker 6: a very high terriffrate because they've engaged in the most

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Speaker 6: egregious conduct threat as our national security. For countries that

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Speaker 6: have severe but severe misconduct, they'll see a moderate but

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Speaker 6: not as high tariff.

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Speaker 1: Fright.

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Speaker 6: The effect, though, of those global tariffs will be that

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Speaker 6: companies will have to move their production back into the

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Speaker 6: United States. So the factories will leave, whether it be

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Speaker 6: Mexico or Canada, or Vietnam or Cambodia or China or

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Speaker 6: the European Union, they will come back to the United

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Speaker 6: States to produce their products, to make their goods, and

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Speaker 6: in so doing. Yes, it will create jobs, Yes it

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Speaker 6: will increase revenues. But most importantly, it will restore our

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Speaker 6: national security so that we will not be dependent on

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Speaker 6: anyone else to survive and thrive as a nation.

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Speaker 2: All of these pieces together, they all tie in together,

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Speaker 2: and they're Yes, there are competing interests, and yes, this

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Speaker 2: isn't going to be easy from the get go. There's

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Speaker 2: going to be an adjustment period. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: long it will be. And as I've said, you know,

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Speaker 2: if Trump is wrong on this one, then the economy

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Speaker 2: has a.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's not gonna be the Great Depression. It's not

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Speaker 1: gonna please.

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Speaker 2: I actually think things are gonna it's gonna be pretty quick,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna have what I would say is the

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Speaker 2: Trump dividend. The Trump bounce back might take until the fall.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's this summer, I don't know. But once some

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Speaker 2: of this stuff gets cleared out of the system, and

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Speaker 2: once they start bringing rates down and there's all these

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Speaker 2: things that can happen, you are gonna see Remember the

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Speaker 2: first Trump I keep talking about the record, Remember the

631
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Speaker 2: first Trump economy, before COVID and before the Democrats, because

632
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Speaker 2: their psychos used the whole.

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Speaker 1: Thing or lock everything down and shut down the.

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Speaker 2: Economy artificially economy from twenty sixteen to twenty to twenty seventeen,

635
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Speaker 2: when Trump took office to twenty nineteen was kicking butt,

636
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Speaker 2: kicking butt and all all the way through. The guy

637
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing on

638
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: this stuff. I have faith in him, and I think

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Speaker 2: I think all of you do as well. So we'll

640
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Speaker 2: continue to follow this. I'm gonna tell you something. Clay

641
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: was down here for a couple of days. We had

642
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Speaker 2: a great time South Beach. You might have seen I

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Speaker 2: posted a weird We actually went to the gym together yesterday,

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Speaker 2: you know, throwing up. I don't know, I wasn't I'm

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Speaker 2: not counting, you know where Clay and I throw up

646
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Speaker 2: four or five hundred pounds on the bench. Can neither

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Speaker 2: confirm nor deny. But what I can confirm for you

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Speaker 2: is we had a steak night with Good Ranchers. So

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Speaker 2: we're sponsors. A sponsored of course here on the show

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Speaker 2: A boy Good Ranchers, but they kind of sponsored our

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Speaker 2: steak night because Carry and I have a freezer full

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Speaker 2: of Good Rancher stuff. We even had the chicken nuggets

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Speaker 2: during the show, not yesterday day before. I just made

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