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Speaker 1: The grind is twenty four seven, three sixty five go, no, No,

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Speaker 5: Hi, Indy, Why Richardson gonna take off on a quarterback drawl?

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Speaker 1: This is the Last Word, the off season home of

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Now Here's Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Last Word off season radio show right

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Speaker 2: here of your Colts, airing every Friday on ninety three

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Speaker 2: five and one seven five fan. I'm Jeffrey Gorman, joined

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Speaker 2: by Matt Taylor voice the Colts. Mate. We heard it

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Speaker 2: last night, Leatu Latu came off the board. Indeed, we

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Speaker 2: were out at Top Golf out there and Fisher's having

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Speaker 2: a nice draft party. That was fun last night, but

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Speaker 2: there's more work to do. Mayte first impressions. We got

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Speaker 2: a lot to go over today we're talking to Ian

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Speaker 2: Cummings from Pro Football Network. But what do you think

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Speaker 2: Leatu Latu a havoc creator is what I hear he creates.

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Speaker 5: Having absolutely first defensive player off the board last night, Well,

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Speaker 5: last few years we've seen the Colts draft, they're their

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Speaker 5: tonight in a round number two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna find out. Leatsu Latsu is the fifteenth

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Speaker 2: overall pick last night. Don't forget about this. He telly

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Speaker 2: looking at this roster. We talked about it at nauseum.

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Speaker 2: Yatu Latu was the fifteenth overall pick, once again out

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Speaker 4: I'm someone that can be comfortable in any uncomfortable situation.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mayda, we just heard from Lea tou Latu and

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Speaker 2: Footballnetwork dot Com. Let's say hi to Iancummings. Ian, when

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Speaker 2: is the twenty five mock draft coming out?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm working on it right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it would lead with that.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 2: I mean this twenty twenty five draft he's getting. I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 3: Ian. You always got to come prepare, that's the way

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Speaker 3: they I'm working on it right now. My selection. I

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Speaker 3: might go two rounds. We'll see.

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Speaker 5: And thank you so much for not hanging up on us.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: We I can't thank you enough for that.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm impressed right here. Follow him again

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Speaker 2: on Twitter x at ice underscore Draft. All right, Ian,

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Speaker 2: the Colts on the clock last night, they said, okay,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people were saying cornerback situation fits well,

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Speaker 2: behold lee to lots from UCLA the edge rusher. Can

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Speaker 2: you give me an NFL comparison on this, young man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My NFL comparison is Sean Merriman played in the

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Speaker 3: two it's very interesting because he's not normally the profile

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Speaker 3: like that's that's how deep this goes. Like. He is

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Speaker 3: I think he really infusedes that to the Colts. So

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Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, Ian Latsu was the Colt's top edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: And seeing Cummings from the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com and

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Speaker 2: we're looking at names still available, do you have any

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Speaker 3: Not too many head scratchers. I mean some of the

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Speaker 3: I had him the top fifteen player at safety or

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about I want to bring up one player

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was my thirty seventh overall player, so he

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Speaker 5: I obviously after the draft and we heard from Chris

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very surprising because there was a lot

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Speaker 5: But all those quarterbacks, I mean, did you see six

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I did not. I thought it was gonna

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Speaker 3: But also I didn't think it really fit Atlanta's timeline.

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Speaker 3: Man best case scenario, I would I would I would

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Speaker 3: his size as absurd, and that was Dallas Clark's Colin Park,

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Speaker 3: you know, being able to change direction. Ben through stems

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Speaker 3: the toughness after the catch and at the catch point.

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Speaker 3: I think Ben Sinnett provides that as well. And then

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Speaker 3: if they decide to go defensive, right corner cool in

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Speaker 3: the constrict could be option TJ Tampa potentially, although they

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Speaker 3: might want a faster guy. Mike max Melton from Rutgers

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Speaker 3: think there's room to maybe consider a guy with some

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Speaker 3: versatility like javon Board, but my preference would be Cooper Degene.

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Speaker 3: I think he's good enough, he's good enough fit. I'll

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Speaker 3: be aggressive to get him.

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Speaker 2: How quickly do the cause?

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Speaker 5: I mean, how much urgency do the cults need to

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Speaker 5: have How quickly off the board do you see Franklin

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Speaker 5: and Degene going off tonight?

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Speaker 3: Franklin I think could fall a little bit. I think

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Speaker 3: if you want Franklin, you might be able to get

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Speaker 3: him at forty sixth. And you know, at the same time, too,

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Speaker 3: Cooper Gene like I would value him, I would be

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Speaker 3: willing to trade up. But I don't know what these

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Speaker 3: other teams are thinking. I don't I don't think New

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Speaker 3: England has a need for him. I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: a great steam for the up fit for their steam.

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Speaker 3: They could take him right, but I think there he

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Speaker 3: might be more of a safety hybrid. Arizona could take

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Speaker 3: him at thirty five. So if you want Cooper Degen,

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Speaker 3: you know I would play safe. I would try to

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Speaker 3: get that thirty third spot box out at the rim

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Speaker 3: and just get your guy. But if you want Troy

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Speaker 3: Franklin or another vertical wide receiver league Jalen McMillan or

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Burden, if you're willing to take a chance with

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Speaker 3: the character, I think you can wait on those guys

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Speaker 3: and get them mid rop.

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Speaker 2: To NFL draft analysts for Pro Footballnetwork dot Com check

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Speaker 2: out his stuff. He lives and Breeze Football love it.

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Speaker 2: Earlier you heard the comparison Liatu Latu Sean Merraman A

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Speaker 2: good comparison right there. And Colts fans are ready for

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Speaker 2: a guy, a dominant player on the defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball. Do you want to take a crack at

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Speaker 2: the twenty five draft right now? As far as who

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Speaker 2: you think the Colts will u zero in.

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Speaker 5: On, don't do it, and come on, don't do it.

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Speaker 2: Don't give him that satisfaction.

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Speaker 3: Let me take my streadsheet because might have made the

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Speaker 3: take all around.

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Speaker 2: God, all right next week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll let you, I'll let you, I'll let you. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It'd be a fun class for wide receivers. I think,

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of opportunity on chap. We don't

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Speaker 3: know exactly what's gonna happen, but we can always look

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Speaker 3: a little bit in the future.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent man. Enjoy really enjoy your work and fans.

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Speaker 2: If you're an NFL fan, follow him on Twitter. X

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Speaker 2: that I see underscore draft. That's Ian Cummings, NFL draft

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Speaker 2: analysts from Pro Footballnetwork dot Com. Ian appreciate the time

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Speaker 2: and have a good couple of next days. I know

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Speaker 2: you'll be busy. Get some sleep on Sunday night. Hey,

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Speaker 2: big thanks to Ian comings right there, Coats fans, be

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Speaker 2: sure to stay up today.

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Speaker 5: Sorry twenty twenty five quest.

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Speaker 2: I mean, give the guy a break. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: just if you're gonna put it on at around two yet, Bro,

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Speaker 2: he was on Twitter X He's like, I'm coming up

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Speaker 2: with one shortly, stay tuned, So I thought i'd hit

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Speaker 2: him up. Hey, coach fans, you want more info, Well

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Speaker 2: the week regarding Lea to Latu selection with the fifteenth

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Speaker 2: we're gonna shake out for the Colts in the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, Jeffrey Gorman. This is the Last Word. We're

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Speaker 1: We now return to the offseason home of the Colts,

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Speaker 2: Union question of the week out of the way here, right,

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Speaker 2: gonna do it with the Colts fifteenth overall pick last

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Speaker 2: night in the NFL draft. Lea to Latu. Okay, last night.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go back a few years. Who's the last

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Speaker 2: defensive end to beat drafted higher than fifteen for the Colts?

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Speaker 5: Oh goodness, oh man, do you really have to go

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Speaker 5: back to.

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Speaker 2: Not that far? And you better And if you're get

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Speaker 5: Mate, very good hand a right, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 5: Robert Mathis, but he was a fifth round pick, right,

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Speaker 5: so great, hnts gotta be Dwight Freeney. Can't believe what

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Speaker 2: He was taking number eleven overall and he will be

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Speaker 2: lot's coming on right now. We've got some basketball, an

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Speaker 2: NBA draft. Where can we follow us here? Right now?

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Speaker 2: You're listening to us ninety three five, one oh seven

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Speaker 2: five the fan, But give me some NFL info on

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Speaker 2: the draft?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yeah. Later on tonight we're gonna be broadcasting the

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Speaker 5: entire night tonight rounds two and three. That's gonna be

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Speaker 5: on ninety three WIBC because of obviously the Pacers taking

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Speaker 5: over the airwaves here in just a matter of moments

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Speaker 5: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the fans,

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Speaker 5: so all night long tonight Rounds two and three ninety

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Speaker 5: three WYBC streaming on Colts dot Com and the Colts

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Speaker 5: bad Boy on ninety three five and one oh seven

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Speaker 5: five the Fan once the Pacers are over. But long

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Speaker 5: story short, IBC all night long and streaming on Colts

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Speaker 2: May take good stuff today we got the Pacers. Continue

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Speaker 2: in the march. They got Paul mckeskey, Ken Benson and

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Speaker 2: the Bucks tonight. Didn't he play for the Bucks?

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Speaker 3: Didn't he?

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Speaker 2: I think he did? Yeah, Sidney Moncrief, I think didn't.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he play for the legendary? Love it anyway? Go walking, Hey,

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Speaker 2: go Pacers. We're gonna be here today, We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: here tomorrow bringing you the latest with the NFL Draft

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Speaker 2: for Matt Taylor. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Go Colts tonight, Chris

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Speaker 2: Ballard and company doing what they're doing. May ta need

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Speaker 2: a big night out of you tonight. You got it

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Speaker 2: in you.

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Speaker 5: Likewise, let's roll brother.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.

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