WEBVTT - Rookie Running Backs with Thor - Part 2 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.160 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.560 Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.600 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.360 whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.800 Now here's your host, Paul Chargion. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.320 Welcome to Part two, Rookie running Backs Fantasy Football Weekly 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.960 with Thorneistrom fantasylife dot Com. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.040 Hey Thor, how are you doing. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.640 Charge Great to talk to you again. I'm excited to 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.120 get a little deeper dive on the running back draft class. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.640 Last week you told us there were roughly thirty NFL 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:51.239 draftable running backs in this class. That is nuts. We 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.960 hit the top six last week. We can't possibly do 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:57.520 twenty four in one show, but we do want to 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.680 dive into some of the deeper guys. But I want 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:07.000 to start here and I think the deepest running back 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.360 class that I could find. Doing some just quick work 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.800 on this, and I'm not saying this definitive thirty years ago. God, 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.840 I can't believe it's thirty years nineteen ninety four. So 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.320 I'm using five thousand yards as the as a successful 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.000 running back season. That would be five one thousand yard seasons. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.680 Can we agree that that's a pretty good barometer. 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:28.880 I like that. 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.680 Okay, here's your nineteen ninety four draft class. And there 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.280 were a bunch of there were several running backs who 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.759 did not pan out at all. But let me give 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.960 you the guys who hit, and this is the order 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.760 in which they were taken. Among guys that hit five 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.400 thousand or very close to five thousand yards, first, Marshall Fulk. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.880 That turned out. Okay, yep, that's you want to do it. 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.240 By the way, you want to put a guess as 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.240 to how many total yards Marshall Fulk had in his career, 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:05.160 rounded to the nearest thousand. You got it, nicely done. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:10.040 Twenty thousand. That's right, well done. Twenty thousand total yards 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:14.880 from Marshall Fulk. The next notable running back, and this 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.800 is a name. See this is I don't want to 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.040 know how old you were in nineteen ninety four. Were 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:19.480 you born? 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:19.880 You were? 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:20.440 You were born? 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:20.680 Right? 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:21.760 I mean I was I was ten? 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:22.720 All right, you're ten? All right? 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:23.160 Good? Alright? 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.880 Kay? Good? Eric Rhett. Does that name mean anything to you? 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.040 Tampa Bay Bucks, Yeah. 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.520 Yes, yeah, Dreamsicle uniform era Eric Rhett almost five thousand 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:40.200 total yards. Charlie Garner do you remember Do you remember him? 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:41.920 I'll see if you can get the teams these guys 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.440 are on. Do you remember Charlie Garner? 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.840 Yeah, Garner was forty nine ers Eagles. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.240 Right, that's right, nicely done. You got the second half 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.920 of his career with that, and between those two ten 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.359 thousand totally yards. That was a great career for him. Yes, 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.560 all right, this one was harder. A guy that I 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.359 had really completely forgotten about, but had seven thousand total 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:04.040 yards in his career. Lamar Smith. Does that name, Riabelle? 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:05.120 Yeah? 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.840 You remember the team? Uh, maybe later in his career, 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.919 but Seattle was his primary stop. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.200 I believe I was screwing up with Lamar Miller. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.760 Oh there you go, Lamar Miller. Way much more recently, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.239 and somebody that I'm pretty sure Brian Johnson still thinks 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.440 Lamar Miller is going to work out in the NFL. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:28.920 Shot shout out, Brien. Okay. Another player with almost five 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:34.519 thousand yards, Bong Morris as we called him at the time, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.640 it was Bam Morris was his given name. But oh, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.280 we had a lot of fun with him and his 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:43.480 his multiple arrests, marijuana arrests, so we renamed him Bong 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:44.400 Morris at the time. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.480 Uh yeah, yeah, but Bam Morris he was he was fun, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:49.080 bam bam. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.200 Yeah, you remember him? Okay, do you remember the team 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.160 that drafted him and he spent most of his career 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:53.800 with that team? 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:56.760 Was it was it? Steelers? 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.840 You got it nice? So far? Perfect? Well what we 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:03.080 mistl Mars Smith? But I don't blame me? Yeah do 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.640 or see elevens? Oh sure you remember him? I know 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:08.880 you know a team he was on. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:09.880 Packers yep. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.720 Seven thousand total yards for him. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.600 He had a good career. He was a good player. 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.320 He was a good player and a good receiving back too. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:22.760 And then in nineteen ninety four seventh rounder Jamal Anderson 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.200 to the Dirty Birds. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.560 Oh wow, yeah, yeah. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:31.000 Another good career. Seven thousand, seven thousand total yards for him. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:37.560 So that ninety four draft class was awfully good. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.039 eight eight players that put together five thousand yard seasons 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.880 or nearly five thousand total yard seasons. That's not bad. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.800 That's pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, and this class maybe 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.000 maybe we can get it topped. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.680 We might just get it topped right here. So we 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.440 did the top we did your top six running backs. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.120 You get the benefit of the doubt. My big QUI 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.479 I think Devin Neils can be more impactful than the 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.400 than the sixth best running back. We'll find out landing 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.240 spot a lot of things, wild course change all of that. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.039 I want to go to your number seven running back, 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:18.440 d J. Giddons from Kansas State, and I've got I 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.919 want to start here. His rass is nine point seven 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.599 to eight, which is remarkable. Tell people your comp for 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:26.640 DJ Giddons. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.279 He reminds me a lot of Zach Charbonet from very 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.159 recently that some of the comps we were doing for 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:34.919 the top six guys. I was going back in the 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.479 time machine. But this one we have a recent one. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.400 It's it's a tall, bigger back. It was two Giddins 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.960 at the combine six foot two twelve. He plays a 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.560 little bit heavier than that, but similar physical package to 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.800 Charboney and similar athleticism, and they run very similar. It's 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.520 it's the upright thing, the sort of the upright runners, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.400 and they have smooth feet between the tackles. It's it's, 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.240 you know, the light on the feet thing, making people 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.960 miss bouncy and light there in the in the tackle 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.760 box and picking your way out to the second level 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.440 that way. And and Giddins the other thing that reminded 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.440 me of Charboney is so smooth. 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.040 At that size. 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.359 There's just a lot of fluidity there, really good feel 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.640 for the position and for running. You see Giddins out 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.840 in the second and third level. He does some cool 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.720 things with toggling his tempo and setting guys up or 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:27.880 waiting for a blocker to wipe out, you know, an 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.920 oncoming defender. He's really smart. He doesn't press the issue. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.479 He has really good awareness and and really good vision. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.320 I think DJ Giddens is a good back. I'm curious 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.120 in the NFL the the receiving DJ Giins is not 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.680 a He's not a very good pass blocker, we know that, 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:49.320 but the receiving thing he has shown flashes. There's inconsistencies there, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.680 so I'm curious to see what we get out of 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.479 him there. I know he's going to be a really 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.560 good peer runner in the NFL. The receiving thing, though, 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:58.960 like there'd be times where Kansas State would shift him 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.839 out into the slot or boundary. He moves and he 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.440 looks like a big boundary receiver and he moves as 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.760 fluidly as any of those guys, and they would run 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.160 him on like drag routes, you know, just simple stuff 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.720 over the middle, but somewhere he could pin the defender 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:14.480 to his back and you just sort of lead him 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.840 into space. He showed he could do that stuff, but 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.080 there was also extreme inconsistencies with the hands, with the drops, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.000 and this past season in twenty twenty three, I think 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.760 he dropped like five balls. And so in the pass 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.120 offseason they signed a receiving back who was originally from 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.720 Kansas but came via Colorado and Dylan Edwards to give 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.600 him some of the receiving down stuff. And Giddins didn't 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.880 drop a ball this year, but it was his work 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.600 with that was way part back. I think, like like 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.640 I said, I think that there is ability there. And 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.640 when he gets a ball in his hands, he has 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.320 a problem. So you see what you can work on there. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.800 But as a runner, his game speaks for itself. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.760 I'm gonna give you one other competent. See if this 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.080 makes any sense you. I'm looking at this taller back. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:08:02.760 It's upright runner with this long, fluid strides. Robert Smith. Okay, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.480 anything there is there anything there, ye think, So no, 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:07.280 I like that, Okay, yeah, I like that. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:08.280 Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.480 Robert Smith coming out of Ohio State, I forget what 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:12.960 it was sort of before my time, so I don't 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.040 know what he ran, but Giddens obviously had the burning 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:19.120 forty four to four three, Yeah, was Robert Smith had 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.120 to be right around there, But. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.440 Yeah, Gidden's it was. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.000 It was surprising how well, like we knew that he 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.440 was a good athlete and and but the fluidity is 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.920 the thing that catches your eye when you're watching him. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.000 It's not one of those things where it's like, you know, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.600 it screams off the athleticism, because he does the things 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.000 like toggling the tempo and it's. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.040 Just everything is just so smooth. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.160 But just keep in mind you're you're talking about a 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.360 really premium athlete in a big package. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.960 I was not familiar with Damian Martinez of Floor of Miami, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.800 and boy, when I started watching him, I got pretty 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.960 interested in what this kid could do. Your comp is 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.319 Lawrence Moroni. To me, he seems a little more physically 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.760 stout than Maroni. And but you know, you've seen way 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.920 more him that I have talk to me about about 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.520 Damian Martinez, who I when I looked at him, I'm like, dude, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.120 is a tough tackle, always moving forward, always finishing forward, 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.480 bigger physical back with nice feet. I I like that kid. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.680 And I also like by the way that you comp 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.480 guys who didn't necessarily have great NFL careers, uh, because 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.800 there's a there are a lot of people in your 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.360 position that always comp to guys that had successful NFL careers. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.319 The Lord Smerni didn't, but he was great in college. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:32.520 Yeah he was. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.760 And you know, it's it's a bigger back and with 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.800 the athleticism, and it's another guy with with good feet. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.920 I do think Martinez is a little bit more physical 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.679 with than Maroni, but the the athletic package in that 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.720 frame with the feet is what reminded me of of 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.800 Moroni coming out of Minnesota. But with with Martinez, you 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.160 get the dichotomy of a hammer type physical back. He 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:01.360 has a really uh a physical to his game, but 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.439 you also get the really good footwork and feet and 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.280 so you see the thing with Martinez where oncoming defenders 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.760 like sometimes they'll they'll sort of break down and you know, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.439 and sort of square up, try to load up to 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.240 tangle with the battering ram and then he can evade 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.000 you with the footwork, and then sometimes when you know 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.840 you're hanging back seeing what he's gonna do, he'll just 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.640 then bear all through you, right like. So it's he 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.000 becomes a little bit of a puzzle because of that, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.440 he can both make you miss and run you over. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.960 The receiving element of his game. That's where I dinged 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.079 them on and that's why he's number eight. I think 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.520 as a peer runner, he's he's better than that and 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.760 a nine to three two ras at two hundred and 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.959 seventeen pounds. He played most of his career between two 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.679 twenty and two thirty. He was listed higher than that, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.640 And it was funny at Oregon say he's listed at 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.160 two forty one. I think of Miami as two thirty six. 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.880 And so I had asked him at the Senior ball, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.040 did you lose weight because you're going to be playing 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.480 in the air raid system. And I told him what 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.480 his listings were at the two schools, and he looked 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:03.760 at me and he laughed. He goes, bro, I've never 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.800 played a game above two thirty, And I said, you were. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.480 Never listed below two thirty, right, he just. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.240 Started smirked at me, but like nobody questioned when he 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.400 was listed at two forty by Oregon, say it because 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:15.480 of how physical he is. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.480 So that's the stuff that you like about about his game. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.600 But yeah, the receiving end, the pass pro work did 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.000 take a step forward in twenty twenty four. Can he 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.200 keep improving that? As a receiver mediocre at best. So 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.880 it's a guy where you want a receiving back with him, 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.840 But as far as an early down guy and a 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.520 short yardage guy, you could certainly be worse than Damian Martinez. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:41.200 Let's go to another player with really good footwork, r J. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:46.559 Harvey from UCF. Now your comp here is Taj Spears. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.600 I feel like he had a little better power than 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.720 Taj Spears, but again I defer to you on a 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.480 lot of these things. But it's the footwork that really 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.040 jumped off the screen to me when I looked at RJ. Harvey. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.120 Yeah, he has really good full work, particularly for a 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.160 guy that runs as fast as he does. You know, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.600 he has legitimate by for four threes or low four 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:11.319 fourth speed. At the combine he was let me pull it. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.440 It was a four to fourth flat. Yeah, four four flat. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.560 Nice at the combine. But he you know, a burner, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.880 but you know, like you said, with good feet and 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.120 in the sort of classic bowling ball type frame five 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.960 to eight flat two hundred and five pounds, and he 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.440 can get up a little bit bigger than that, you know, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.280 closer to that two twelve threshold that we were talking about. 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.520 He cut a little bit of weight in order to 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.440 do the testing. But I like his work between the tackles, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.880 especially for a smaller back. He runs low at the ground, Yeah, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.520 and he's really bouncy and darty between the tackles, and 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.920 and sometimes like he can do the thing. He denotes 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.840 danger really quickly, and so in college he could get 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.360 flat down the line, he has a really violent cut 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.080 and then he can just shoot out the other way 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.880 out the back door. He got a lot of explosive 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.120 runs at UCF that way. He's not going to be 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.560 able to do that same thing to that degree. But 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.440 what I like is the vision that denoting the danger. 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:08.840 And I also embollish on a modulation of his running style, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:10.520 And it doesn't need to be major. It's not like 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.479 he was doing that every single time, but a modulation 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.240 of it to more often take what you're getting between 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.679 the tackles, because I think he is good at that, 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.880 like the work that he has done between the tackles. 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:23.920 You're mentioning. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.439 He runs with a little bit more power than you 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.640 would think because he is always going to win the 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.240 leverage game. And then you have the speed to power 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.760 element with him as well. He's going to run through 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.400 the arm tackles and he can make people mess with 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:40.200 that really quick, sort of Darty type side to side agility. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:40.560 Yeah. 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.880 I really like his game. 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.160 You get the explosive plays, you get some of the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.480 between the tackle stuff. He is also a really strong 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.839 receiver who brings the same home run ability when he's 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.320 catching the ball. I talked to him down at the 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.800 senior ball and I was asking him about, you know, 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.520 what do you want to prove to the NFL here, 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.800 and he was saying as a receiver, and he started 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.120 to go into this thing of you know, he was 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.120 being nice about it. He sort of tiptoe on around it, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.280 but you know, he was sort of insinuating. UCF didn't 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.920 use me. I think like they could have as a receiver. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.880 And I said, RJ. That being said, I said, are 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.600 you aware that you are one of two backs? In 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.800 this class who had one point twenty five yards per 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.040 route run or more each of the last two years. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.640 And he goes, really, and I said, you sure were, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.600 but I agreed with him that they did not use 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.760 him in a diverse enough way. He piled up those yards. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.840 That was RJ. Harvey's doing, right. It was like a 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.520 lot of this stuff of running after the catch, Whereas 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.640 I think RJ. Harvey is going to be a really 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.240 good receiver in the NFL down the field right where 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.840 you can do different stuff and have him shaking the 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.920 linebacker or the strong safety out of his boots and 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.120 then he'll find himself. They'll create the space and you know, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.560 get him the ball and then he can run with 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.160 it afterwards. But it's a good receiver who I think 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.320 has the ability to show even more in the NFL. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.720 I'm a big fan RJ. Harvey. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.280 So to give people a reference point, r J. Harvey 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.480 is your ninth overall running back. Are we in about 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.160 the fourth round right now? In terms of where you 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:05.840 think the ninth running back is gonna go? 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.120 Late third, early fourth? Yes? Okay? 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.480 In there, okay, all right, all right, probably probably the third, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:13.960 probably the latter half of the third. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.400 I okay, right now, all right, which you know, nine 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.440 backs in the first three rounds is still remarkable. A 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.720 lot of people familiar with Cam Scatabo, and he's going 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.560 to be, I think, a very polarizing player his When 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:32.440 you see the highlights, you can't not love Cam Scatabo, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:37.200 But when you watch the totality of a game of his, 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.480 there's some there's some work in there that just doesn't 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.160 really pop for me. So, you know, he's the most 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.840 he's one of the most physical and I think contact 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.240 seeking running backs that we've seen in years, and a 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.520 fascinating study. You and I talked about him two weeks 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.160 ago and we didn't end up getting all the testing 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.760 we were hoping to get out of out of the 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.600 combine with him, unfortunately. But let's talk Cam scatable Arizona State. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.920 Yeah, the ones we he did do were the jumps 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.080 and and he jumped well. But yeah, they we're wondering 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.320 about the forty time and he's gonna make us weight 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:12.880 on that. You know, I hope he runs it at 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:17.800 the Proga. Yeah, I hope so, But speed's. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:18.240 Not his game. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.760 Uh, you know, like in his defense, it's the thing 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.680 you're talking about the physicality. He has some agility as well, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.720 and it's he while he does not have that elite 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.600 top end speed, the elite trade, or maybe not elite trade, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.840 but the really good trade as far as that goes, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.800 he accelerates to his top speed almost immediately and you 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.680 see that that sort of suddenness in the jumps that 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.000 he did in Indianapolis. But yeah, he is a pure 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.960 tackle breaker. He we were talking about bulling ball frames before. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.320 You're not going to see a more bowling ball frame 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.040 than this. He measured in a five foot nine at 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.240 the NFL Combine, but two hundred and nineteen pounds, and 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.880 that's a guy who plays more like two twenty five 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.560 to two thirty yea in a five foot nine frame. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.240 So I mean he runs solo to the ground and 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.400 he's a berserker. It's a street fighter thing where he's 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.200 just fighting people off of him. And again he can 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.560 get through closing holes, closing gaps really really quickly because 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.159 of that acceleration. He ain't running away from any one 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.640 in the NFL, and he didn't really at college either. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.800 But this is an efficiency back. He's a good receiver 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.280 as well. He's not going to drop the ball and 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.359 it's the same thing where it is extremely difficult in 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.679 space to tackle that guy. So Arizona State, I mean, 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.200 he finished number two on the team last year in receptions, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.080 even though they gave him a billion carries. He was 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.679 like the entire offense, you know, and like it was 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:40.520 really impressive. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:41.320 The end of the season. 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.960 Jordan Tyson, who he was the guy who led their 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.000 team in receptions by far, Arizona State really didn't have 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.760 other receiving weapons that scared people with Tyson, and then 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.240 it was Scattaboy. But Tyson got injured at the end 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.840 of the year. So then in the college Football playoff, 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.000 Scatabu was a marked man and he was still, you know, 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:03.200 admiral getting his as much as he could. I think 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.840 this is a good player. I comp him to David Montgomery. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.520 He has a very similar frame to David Montgomery. He's 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.879 an in shorter, but it's basically the same build with 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.399 the same weight. And keep in mind David Montgomery, He's 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.560 had a good career. He was really good at Iowa State. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.000 He didn't test well at all. In fact, I think 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.639 cam Scatable was going to test better than David Montgomery. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.040 David Montgomery had one of the worst verticals you will 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.760 ever see in that position. It was like twenty seven 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.000 and a half inches or something like that. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.600 Yeah, so scatable. You could argue he is a. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.520 Better athlete than than David Montgomery, and I think he's 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:37.520 gonna have a solid career. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.000 I'm gonna try to get you to my comp Mike Alstott. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.479 It's you know, all Stott. It was as contact seeking 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.880 as any running back in memory. He never put up. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.840 He was never like workhorse back. He was never three 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.199 hundred carries and it was usually in like the one 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.480 hundred and fifty to twenty five carries and he'd finish 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.119 out at like seven hundred yards. But he could also catch, 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.240 you know, and he would chip in, you know, thirty 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.880 forty receptions. He was. I just feel like those two 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:13.480 just remind me of each other so much that you know, 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.200 the build is a little different because also that I 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.080 was a lot taller. He was six foot one and 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.800 it was two hundred, like forty pounds, so I mean 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.680 the build was different, but just the style stylistically, that's 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.320 that's the guy that that Cam Scatabo reminds me of. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.040 And I hope, you know a little bit like work 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:33.360 done and and Mike Alstott, I hope Scatibo finds himself 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.000 into a one two punch where he can be goal 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.840