1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Now here's your host, Paul Chargion. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Part two, Rookie running Backs Fantasy Football Weekly 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: with Thorneistrom fantasylife dot Com. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Hey Thor, how are you doing. 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Charge Great to talk to you again. I'm excited to 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: get a little deeper dive on the running back draft class. 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: Last week you told us there were roughly thirty NFL 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: draftable running backs in this class. That is nuts. We 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: hit the top six last week. We can't possibly do 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: twenty four in one show, but we do want to 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: dive into some of the deeper guys. But I want 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: to start here and I think the deepest running back 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: class that I could find. Doing some just quick work 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: on this, and I'm not saying this definitive thirty years ago. God, 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's thirty years nineteen ninety four. So 20 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm using five thousand yards as the as a successful 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: running back season. That would be five one thousand yard seasons. 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Can we agree that that's a pretty good barometer. 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: I like that. 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Okay, here's your nineteen ninety four draft class. And there 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: were a bunch of there were several running backs who 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: did not pan out at all. But let me give 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: you the guys who hit, and this is the order 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: in which they were taken. Among guys that hit five 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: thousand or very close to five thousand yards, first, Marshall Fulk. 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: That turned out. Okay, yep, that's you want to do it. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: By the way, you want to put a guess as 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to how many total yards Marshall Fulk had in his career, 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: rounded to the nearest thousand. You got it, nicely done. 34 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Twenty thousand. That's right, well done. Twenty thousand total yards 35 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: from Marshall Fulk. The next notable running back, and this 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: is a name. See this is I don't want to 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: know how old you were in nineteen ninety four. Were 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: you born? 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: You were? 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: You were born? 41 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: Right? 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 3: I mean I was I was ten? 43 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: All right, you're ten? All right? 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: Good? Alright? 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Kay? Good? Eric Rhett. Does that name mean anything to you? 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Bucks, Yeah. 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Dreamsicle uniform era Eric Rhett almost five thousand 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: total yards. Charlie Garner do you remember Do you remember him? 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: I'll see if you can get the teams these guys 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: are on. Do you remember Charlie Garner? 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Garner was forty nine ers Eagles. 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Right, that's right, nicely done. You got the second half 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: of his career with that, and between those two ten 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: thousand totally yards. That was a great career for him. Yes, 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: all right, this one was harder. A guy that I 56 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: had really completely forgotten about, but had seven thousand total 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: yards in his career. Lamar Smith. Does that name, Riabelle? 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: You remember the team? Uh, maybe later in his career, 60 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: but Seattle was his primary stop. 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: I believe I was screwing up with Lamar Miller. 62 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Oh there you go, Lamar Miller. Way much more recently, 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: and somebody that I'm pretty sure Brian Johnson still thinks 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller is going to work out in the NFL. 65 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Shot shout out, Brien. Okay. Another player with almost five 66 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: thousand yards, Bong Morris as we called him at the time, 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: it was Bam Morris was his given name. But oh, 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun with him and his 69 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: his multiple arrests, marijuana arrests, so we renamed him Bong 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Morris at the time. 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, but Bam Morris he was he was fun, 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: bam bam. 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you remember him? Okay, do you remember the team 74 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: that drafted him and he spent most of his career 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: with that team? 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: Was it was it? Steelers? 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: You got it nice? So far? Perfect? Well what we 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: mistl Mars Smith? But I don't blame me? Yeah do 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: or see elevens? Oh sure you remember him? I know 80 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: you know a team he was on. 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: Packers yep. 82 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Seven thousand total yards for him. 83 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: He had a good career. He was a good player. 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: He was a good player and a good receiving back too. 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen ninety four seventh rounder Jamal Anderson 86 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: to the Dirty Birds. 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, yeah. 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Another good career. Seven thousand, seven thousand total yards for him. 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: So that ninety four draft class was awfully good. That's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: eight eight players that put together five thousand yard seasons 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: or nearly five thousand total yard seasons. That's not bad. 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, and this class maybe 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: maybe we can get it topped. 94 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: We might just get it topped right here. So we 95 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: did the top we did your top six running backs. 96 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: You get the benefit of the doubt. My big QUI 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: I think Devin Neils can be more impactful than the 98 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: than the sixth best running back. We'll find out landing 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: spot a lot of things, wild course change all of that. 100 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: I want to go to your number seven running back, 101 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: d J. Giddons from Kansas State, and I've got I 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: want to start here. His rass is nine point seven 103 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: to eight, which is remarkable. Tell people your comp for 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: DJ Giddons. 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: He reminds me a lot of Zach Charbonet from very 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: recently that some of the comps we were doing for 107 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 4: the top six guys. I was going back in the 108 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: time machine. But this one we have a recent one. 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: It's it's a tall, bigger back. It was two Giddins 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: at the combine six foot two twelve. He plays a 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: little bit heavier than that, but similar physical package to 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: Charboney and similar athleticism, and they run very similar. It's 113 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: it's the upright thing, the sort of the upright runners, 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: and they have smooth feet between the tackles. It's it's, 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 4: you know, the light on the feet thing, making people 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: miss bouncy and light there in the in the tackle 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: box and picking your way out to the second level 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 4: that way. And and Giddins the other thing that reminded 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: me of Charboney is so smooth. 120 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: At that size. 121 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: There's just a lot of fluidity there, really good feel 122 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: for the position and for running. You see Giddins out 123 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: in the second and third level. He does some cool 124 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 4: things with toggling his tempo and setting guys up or 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 4: waiting for a blocker to wipe out, you know, an 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 4: oncoming defender. He's really smart. He doesn't press the issue. 127 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 4: He has really good awareness and and really good vision. 128 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: I think DJ Giddens is a good back. I'm curious 129 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: in the NFL the the receiving DJ Giins is not 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: a He's not a very good pass blocker, we know that, 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: but the receiving thing he has shown flashes. There's inconsistencies there, 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: so I'm curious to see what we get out of 133 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 4: him there. I know he's going to be a really 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: good peer runner in the NFL. The receiving thing, though, 135 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: like there'd be times where Kansas State would shift him 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 4: out into the slot or boundary. He moves and he 137 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: looks like a big boundary receiver and he moves as 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: fluidly as any of those guys, and they would run 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: him on like drag routes, you know, just simple stuff 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: over the middle, but somewhere he could pin the defender 141 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: to his back and you just sort of lead him 142 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: into space. He showed he could do that stuff, but 143 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: there was also extreme inconsistencies with the hands, with the drops, 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: and this past season in twenty twenty three, I think 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: he dropped like five balls. And so in the pass 146 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: offseason they signed a receiving back who was originally from 147 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: Kansas but came via Colorado and Dylan Edwards to give 148 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: him some of the receiving down stuff. And Giddins didn't 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: drop a ball this year, but it was his work 150 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: with that was way part back. I think, like like 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: I said, I think that there is ability there. And 152 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: when he gets a ball in his hands, he has 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: a problem. So you see what you can work on there. 154 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: But as a runner, his game speaks for itself. 155 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you one other competent. See if this 156 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: makes any sense you. I'm looking at this taller back. 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: It's upright runner with this long, fluid strides. Robert Smith. Okay, 158 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: anything there is there anything there, ye think, So no, 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I like that, Okay, yeah, I like that. 160 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Robert Smith coming out of Ohio State, I forget what 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: it was sort of before my time, so I don't 163 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: know what he ran, but Giddens obviously had the burning 164 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: forty four to four three, Yeah, was Robert Smith had 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: to be right around there, But. 166 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Gidden's it was. 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: It was surprising how well, like we knew that he 168 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: was a good athlete and and but the fluidity is 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: the thing that catches your eye when you're watching him. 170 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: It's not one of those things where it's like, you know, 171 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: it screams off the athleticism, because he does the things 172 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: like toggling the tempo and it's. 173 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: Just everything is just so smooth. 174 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: But just keep in mind you're you're talking about a 175 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: really premium athlete in a big package. 176 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I was not familiar with Damian Martinez of Floor of Miami, 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: and boy, when I started watching him, I got pretty 178 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: interested in what this kid could do. Your comp is 179 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: Lawrence Moroni. To me, he seems a little more physically 180 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: stout than Maroni. And but you know, you've seen way 181 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: more him that I have talk to me about about 182 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Damian Martinez, who I when I looked at him, I'm like, dude, 183 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: is a tough tackle, always moving forward, always finishing forward, 184 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: bigger physical back with nice feet. I I like that kid. 185 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: And I also like by the way that you comp 186 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: guys who didn't necessarily have great NFL careers, uh, because 187 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: there's a there are a lot of people in your 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: position that always comp to guys that had successful NFL careers. 189 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: The Lord Smerni didn't, but he was great in college. 190 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah he was. 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's a bigger back and with 192 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: the athleticism, and it's another guy with with good feet. 193 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: I do think Martinez is a little bit more physical 194 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: with than Maroni, but the the athletic package in that 195 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: frame with the feet is what reminded me of of 196 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: Moroni coming out of Minnesota. But with with Martinez, you 197 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: get the dichotomy of a hammer type physical back. He 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 4: has a really uh a physical to his game, but 199 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 4: you also get the really good footwork and feet and 200 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: so you see the thing with Martinez where oncoming defenders 201 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: like sometimes they'll they'll sort of break down and you know, 202 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: and sort of square up, try to load up to 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: tangle with the battering ram and then he can evade 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: you with the footwork, and then sometimes when you know 205 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: you're hanging back seeing what he's gonna do, he'll just 206 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: then bear all through you, right like. So it's he 207 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: becomes a little bit of a puzzle because of that, 208 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: he can both make you miss and run you over. 209 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: The receiving element of his game. That's where I dinged 210 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: them on and that's why he's number eight. I think 211 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: as a peer runner, he's he's better than that and 212 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: a nine to three two ras at two hundred and 213 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 4: seventeen pounds. He played most of his career between two 214 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 4: twenty and two thirty. He was listed higher than that, 215 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: And it was funny at Oregon say he's listed at 216 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: two forty one. I think of Miami as two thirty six. 217 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: And so I had asked him at the Senior ball, 218 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: did you lose weight because you're going to be playing 219 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: in the air raid system. And I told him what 220 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: his listings were at the two schools, and he looked 221 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: at me and he laughed. He goes, bro, I've never 222 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: played a game above two thirty, And I said, you were. 223 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: Never listed below two thirty, right, he just. 224 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: Started smirked at me, but like nobody questioned when he 225 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: was listed at two forty by Oregon, say it because 226 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 4: of how physical he is. 227 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: So that's the stuff that you like about about his game. 228 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: But yeah, the receiving end, the pass pro work did 229 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: take a step forward in twenty twenty four. Can he 230 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: keep improving that? As a receiver mediocre at best. So 231 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 4: it's a guy where you want a receiving back with him, 232 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: But as far as an early down guy and a 233 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 4: short yardage guy, you could certainly be worse than Damian Martinez. 234 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to another player with really good footwork, r J. 235 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: Harvey from UCF. Now your comp here is Taj Spears. 236 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: I feel like he had a little better power than 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Taj Spears, but again I defer to you on a 238 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: lot of these things. But it's the footwork that really 239 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: jumped off the screen to me when I looked at RJ. Harvey. 240 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has really good full work, particularly for a 241 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: guy that runs as fast as he does. You know, 242 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: he has legitimate by for four threes or low four 243 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 4: fourth speed. At the combine he was let me pull it. 244 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: It was a four to fourth flat. Yeah, four four flat. 245 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: Nice at the combine. But he you know, a burner, 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: but you know, like you said, with good feet and 247 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: in the sort of classic bowling ball type frame five 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: to eight flat two hundred and five pounds, and he 249 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: can get up a little bit bigger than that, you know, 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: closer to that two twelve threshold that we were talking about. 251 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: He cut a little bit of weight in order to 252 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 4: do the testing. But I like his work between the tackles, 253 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: especially for a smaller back. He runs low at the ground, Yeah, 254 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: and he's really bouncy and darty between the tackles, and 255 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: and sometimes like he can do the thing. He denotes 256 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: danger really quickly, and so in college he could get 257 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: flat down the line, he has a really violent cut 258 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: and then he can just shoot out the other way 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: out the back door. He got a lot of explosive 260 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: runs at UCF that way. He's not going to be 261 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 4: able to do that same thing to that degree. But 262 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: what I like is the vision that denoting the danger. 263 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: And I also embollish on a modulation of his running style, 264 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: And it doesn't need to be major. It's not like 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,479 Speaker 4: he was doing that every single time, but a modulation 266 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: of it to more often take what you're getting between 267 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: the tackles, because I think he is good at that, 268 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: like the work that he has done between the tackles. 269 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: You're mentioning. 270 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 4: He runs with a little bit more power than you 271 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: would think because he is always going to win the 272 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: leverage game. And then you have the speed to power 273 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: element with him as well. He's going to run through 274 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: the arm tackles and he can make people mess with 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: that really quick, sort of Darty type side to side agility. 276 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 277 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: I really like his game. 278 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: You get the explosive plays, you get some of the 279 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: between the tackle stuff. He is also a really strong 280 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 4: receiver who brings the same home run ability when he's 281 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: catching the ball. I talked to him down at the 282 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: senior ball and I was asking him about, you know, 283 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: what do you want to prove to the NFL here, 284 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: and he was saying as a receiver, and he started 285 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: to go into this thing of you know, he was 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: being nice about it. He sort of tiptoe on around it, 287 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 4: but you know, he was sort of insinuating. UCF didn't 288 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: use me. I think like they could have as a receiver. 289 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: And I said, RJ. That being said, I said, are 290 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: you aware that you are one of two backs? In 291 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: this class who had one point twenty five yards per 292 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: route run or more each of the last two years. 293 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: And he goes, really, and I said, you sure were, 294 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: but I agreed with him that they did not use 295 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: him in a diverse enough way. He piled up those yards. 296 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: That was RJ. Harvey's doing, right. It was like a 297 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: lot of this stuff of running after the catch, Whereas 298 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: I think RJ. Harvey is going to be a really 299 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: good receiver in the NFL down the field right where 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: you can do different stuff and have him shaking the 301 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: linebacker or the strong safety out of his boots and 302 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: then he'll find himself. They'll create the space and you know, 303 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: get him the ball and then he can run with 304 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: it afterwards. But it's a good receiver who I think 305 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 4: has the ability to show even more in the NFL. 306 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan RJ. Harvey. 307 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: So to give people a reference point, r J. Harvey 308 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: is your ninth overall running back. Are we in about 309 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: the fourth round right now? In terms of where you 310 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: think the ninth running back is gonna go? 311 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: Late third, early fourth? Yes? Okay? 312 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: In there, okay, all right, all right, probably probably the third, 313 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: probably the latter half of the third. 314 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: I okay, right now, all right, which you know, nine 315 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: backs in the first three rounds is still remarkable. A 316 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: lot of people familiar with Cam Scatabo, and he's going 317 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: to be, I think, a very polarizing player his When 318 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: you see the highlights, you can't not love Cam Scatabo, 319 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: But when you watch the totality of a game of his, 320 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: there's some there's some work in there that just doesn't 321 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: really pop for me. So, you know, he's the most 322 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: he's one of the most physical and I think contact 323 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: seeking running backs that we've seen in years, and a 324 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: fascinating study. You and I talked about him two weeks 325 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: ago and we didn't end up getting all the testing 326 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: we were hoping to get out of out of the 327 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: combine with him, unfortunately. But let's talk Cam scatable Arizona State. 328 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, the ones we he did do were the jumps 329 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: and and he jumped well. But yeah, they we're wondering 330 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: about the forty time and he's gonna make us weight 331 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: on that. You know, I hope he runs it at 332 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: the Proga. Yeah, I hope so, But speed's. 333 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: Not his game. 334 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, like in his defense, it's the thing 335 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: you're talking about the physicality. He has some agility as well, 336 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: and it's he while he does not have that elite 337 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: top end speed, the elite trade, or maybe not elite trade, 338 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: but the really good trade as far as that goes, 339 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: he accelerates to his top speed almost immediately and you 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: see that that sort of suddenness in the jumps that 341 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: he did in Indianapolis. But yeah, he is a pure 342 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: tackle breaker. He we were talking about bulling ball frames before. 343 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: You're not going to see a more bowling ball frame 344 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: than this. He measured in a five foot nine at 345 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: the NFL Combine, but two hundred and nineteen pounds, and 346 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: that's a guy who plays more like two twenty five 347 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: to two thirty yea in a five foot nine frame. 348 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: So I mean he runs solo to the ground and 349 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: he's a berserker. It's a street fighter thing where he's 350 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: just fighting people off of him. And again he can 351 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: get through closing holes, closing gaps really really quickly because 352 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 4: of that acceleration. He ain't running away from any one 353 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: in the NFL, and he didn't really at college either. 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: But this is an efficiency back. He's a good receiver 355 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: as well. He's not going to drop the ball and 356 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 4: it's the same thing where it is extremely difficult in 357 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 4: space to tackle that guy. So Arizona State, I mean, 358 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: he finished number two on the team last year in receptions, 359 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: even though they gave him a billion carries. He was 360 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 4: like the entire offense, you know, and like it was 361 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: really impressive. 362 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: The end of the season. 363 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson, who he was the guy who led their 364 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: team in receptions by far, Arizona State really didn't have 365 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: other receiving weapons that scared people with Tyson, and then 366 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: it was Scattaboy. But Tyson got injured at the end 367 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: of the year. So then in the college Football playoff, 368 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: Scatabu was a marked man and he was still, you know, 369 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: admiral getting his as much as he could. I think 370 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: this is a good player. I comp him to David Montgomery. 371 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: He has a very similar frame to David Montgomery. He's 372 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: an in shorter, but it's basically the same build with 373 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: the same weight. And keep in mind David Montgomery, He's 374 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: had a good career. He was really good at Iowa State. 375 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: He didn't test well at all. In fact, I think 376 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: cam Scatable was going to test better than David Montgomery. 377 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: David Montgomery had one of the worst verticals you will 378 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: ever see in that position. It was like twenty seven 379 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 4: and a half inches or something like that. 380 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so scatable. You could argue he is a. 381 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: Better athlete than than David Montgomery, and I think he's 382 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: gonna have a solid career. 383 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get you to my comp Mike Alstott. 384 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: It's you know, all Stott. It was as contact seeking 385 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: as any running back in memory. He never put up. 386 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: He was never like workhorse back. He was never three 387 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: hundred carries and it was usually in like the one 388 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to twenty five carries and he'd finish 389 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: out at like seven hundred yards. But he could also catch, 390 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, and he would chip in, you know, thirty 391 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: forty receptions. He was. I just feel like those two 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: just remind me of each other so much that you know, 393 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: the build is a little different because also that I 394 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: was a lot taller. He was six foot one and 395 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: it was two hundred, like forty pounds, so I mean 396 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: the build was different, but just the style stylistically, that's 397 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: that's the guy that that Cam Scatabo reminds me of. 398 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: And I hope, you know a little bit like work 399 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: done and and Mike Alstott, I hope Scatibo finds himself 400 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: into a one two punch where he can be goal 401 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: line guy. He can be third down tough yards, you know, 402 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: third and one, you know, third and short. He can 403 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: he can fill that role. And I'm excited to see 404 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: where lands, and I hope he can be part of it. 405 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, a great one two punch. 406 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's what it is. 407 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 4: And he's kind of a throwback player, you know, like 408 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: you're mentioning with that sort of you know, it's like 409 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: woke up and shows violence. Yeah, yeah, right, And that's 410 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: that that's a similarity with him at all Stott. They 411 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 4: every morning they woke up and they chose violence. And 412 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: one interesting sort of thought experiment with Skataboo, a throwback 413 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 4: player into this this modern era is now you know 414 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: all Stott and then you know, you go back further 415 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 4: than that in the three yards in a clouded dust 416 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 4: type era. That that era you had the slobber knocker linebackers, 417 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: you know, the two hundred and fifty pound guys with 418 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: the enormous shoulder pads and everyone's coming downhill. You had 419 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: more of the boxes were packed and stuff like that. 420 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: This era you have, this field is more spread and 421 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 4: the defenses are getting smaller to get more speed on 422 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 4: the field. 423 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: Is Cam Scattabu's game? Could it? Could it be a 424 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: really good fit here? 425 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: Like could they get him into an offense where you 426 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: are you're always spreading the field with at least three 427 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 4: receivers forcing thin boxes because the you know, again the 428 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 4: super duper difficult thing. 429 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: It's to tackle Skataboo with one dude. 430 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 4: You need a bunch, Like sometimes you need four guys, right, 431 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: I mean, because he'll just keep carrying people like he 432 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: just has such strong legs. So in those thinner boxes, 433 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: I think that could project pretty well for Cam. You're 434 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: not gonna get explosive plays out of him, but you're 435 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: gonna get all kinds of efficiency with him, both as 436 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 4: a runner and as a receiver. 437 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. When we come back, 438 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: I want to zip through and you know, like two 439 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: minutes or less, let's zip through another like five or 440 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: six guys, and don't just get it. Get a little 441 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: bit smarter. And I'm gonna be honest, most these guys 442 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: I haven't seen yet. And the guy I'm really well, 443 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't, I won't. I won't preview it yet, but uh, 444 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: there's one guy that has taken a precipitous fall from 445 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: where he was generally ranked even a few months ago. 446 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk. We'll talk that guy through in just a moment, 447 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: a segment too. Fantasy Football Weekly coming up in just 448 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: a moment. All right, welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. Paul 449 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: charchiing thorn Eistrom with you. We've already knocked down five 450 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: six I don't know, five six players. Let's let's jump 451 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: into some uh, some guys that are going to be 452 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: Day three running backs, including a guy that I didn't 453 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: know anything about until honestly a few days ago. Help me, 454 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: and if I if I get this pronunciation wrong, please 455 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: just go easy on me. Bacial Tutin. That's pretty good, Mike, 456 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: am I in the ballpark here, Basal Teuton. 457 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: That's no, that's that's good. After the NFL combine, I 458 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: just call him King Tutin. 459 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I like it, tingk King Tutin. That's great, that's great. 460 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: The Virginia Tech running back who ran a four three 461 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: two forty Holy cow. 462 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that guy can burn. 463 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: It's it's a high school track star and and the 464 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: athleticism you see it in spades out there on the field. 465 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: He certainly showed that in Indianapolis that forty time match 466 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: Devin Autchane. Only Tuton was eighteen pounds heavier than when 467 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 4: au Chane ran his coming out of Texas A and 468 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: m that that four three two. The jumps were also 469 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: crazy with him, they both both of them vertical and 470 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: bro jumps. We're both ninety six percent. So you're talking 471 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: about a truly elite athlete here five nine, two hundred 472 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: and six pounds nine point twenty nine raz. He reminds 473 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: me of Ijaa Pacheco. It's the same thing of the 474 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: it's not only breakneck speed, it is a breakneck style 475 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 4: and it is extremely unorthodox. Like I mean, you remember 476 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: Pachecko coming out and like sometimes for the NFL defenders, 477 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: like initially seeing him, it's unpredictable heat. He descends on 478 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 4: you really quickly. That the movements. You know, it's like 479 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 4: this kinetic, unpredictable, unorthodox type running style. That's what you 480 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 4: get from Tuton as well. And when you're moving at 481 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: such high speeds, any indecision that you can put in 482 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: a defender's head. Yeah, it makes you even faster, right, 483 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: Like you're slowing them down even more and you're already 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: faster than they are. So that stuff is really cool. 485 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: You get the explosive plays from Tuton, he racks those up. 486 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: He's a solid receiver as well. Although the one thing 487 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 4: with him that they got to work on is the 488 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 4: hands with him. Last year Virginia Tech, they started to 489 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 4: cut his receiving work down because he had dropped some balls. 490 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: But like you do get the explosive elopment with him 491 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: as a receiver when he is catching it. So I'll 492 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: be curious to see the development with him there. Hands 493 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: though is the question with him both as a receiver 494 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: and then as a runner. He fumbled the ball nine 495 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: times the last two years. So it's a guy where 496 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 4: on the field last couple of years. Because he came 497 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: up from North Carolina, A and t it was at 498 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: Virginia Tech for two years. 499 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 3: You got the. 500 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: Extremely high peaks and then you had to put up 501 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 4: with some of those valleys. Can the NFL can they 502 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: can you teach him a little bit of better ball 503 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: scales as the receiver and as the runner. Can we 504 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: help him with ball security? Can you do the thing 505 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 4: they did in the program? Remember the running back in 506 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 4: the movie the Program? They made him walk around campus 507 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: with the football. Someone else brought it back to the 508 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: coach y. You know, they got a rewards. Everyone's trying 509 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 4: to slap it out of his hands in the hallways. 510 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 4: Baseiel Tooton needs to walk around with the football for 511 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: months and with the same sort of bounty on it. 512 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 4: But this is a really, really interesting prospect. I think 513 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: probably headed for day three after his testing, and he's 514 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: gonna bring whatever offense picks him a home run threat. 515 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to be a little bit quicker 516 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: on Dylan Sampson from Tennessee. Your comp here was James Cook. 517 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: That's a that's a delicious comp. Tell me about Dylan Samson. 518 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I ended up switching it to a mod Bradshaw. 519 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: Oh okay, Yeah, Like I was going back and forth 520 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: with a couple of guys. But he's a little bit 521 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, five ft eight, two hundred pounds coming 522 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: into the combine. So it's a it's a back who 523 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 4: was on the smaller side and he just had the 524 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: one year starting at Tennessee, but he showed all kinds 525 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 4: of different stuff last year, both as a receiver and 526 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: as a runner. He has good feel, he has good agility, 527 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 4: and he has strong speed, although that is one thing 528 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 4: we're kind of questioning right now because it was kind 529 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: of weird that Dylan Samson did not run a forty 530 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: at the combine. His the sportsbooks put out I think 531 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: he was four three nine or four three eight something 532 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: like that. They copped his number, and then as the 533 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: week went on you get closer to Saturday, his number 534 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: had come all the way up to like it was either. 535 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: Four three four or four four four in the sports. 536 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: Books, and then he elects not to run me watching 537 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 4: his team, So you have a discrepancy here where he 538 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 4: has had some explosive runs, and there was reports when 539 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: he was coming out, like in high school, stuff like 540 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: that of him running in the high four to three. 541 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: So that's that's where some of that speculation that he's 542 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: a burner is. But some of the on field metrics 543 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 4: and then just the eye test, he did not consistently 544 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: look like a four to three speed guy, and that 545 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: matters in his evaluation because you're only at the two 546 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: hundred flat size and so that's where you know, you 547 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: bring up a guy like Cook, or you bring up 548 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: a guy like like Bradshaw, guys that were able to 549 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: sort of overcome the smaller frames because you're you're skilled 550 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: all the way around. You know, you offer your offense 551 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: a little bit of this, a little bit of that. 552 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: I think that's the thing with Dylan Samson. You put 553 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: him up standing next to some of those other guys. 554 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: He's not as impressive, he might not end up running 555 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 4: as fast as some of those different guys, but it's 556 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: one of those guys you put everything together and he's 557 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 4: a bit more than his amalgamation to trades. 558 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to your number thirteen ranked running 559 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: back Ali Gordon from Oklahoma State. Now, I saw I 560 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: started when I started looking at running backs during the 561 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: NFL season. I'm all NFL all the time. And then 562 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: in January I started looking at some of the running 563 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: back rankings. I was seeing Ali Gordon being ranked like 564 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: number five, number six among running backs in this draft class. 565 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: So I'm looking up film and I don't know much 566 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: about him, and I'm like, what am I missing here? 567 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a guy who had no special traits that 568 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I could see. Ali Gordon didn't get. He got little 569 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: more than what his offensive line gave him. You know, 570 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: he would he would get, he would take what he 571 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: wasn't going negative. He wasn't making bad plays. But I 572 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't see him making any special plays. I didn't see 573 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: a player that looked to have much of any elusiveness. 574 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I didn't see a player that was breaking a lot 575 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: of tackles. I didn't see explosion. I just maybe I'm 576 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: missing it, but I just didn't see any the special 577 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: traits I want to see from Olie Gordon. So that's 578 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: my that's where I am on him. But again, as always, 579 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: you you know, you know a lot more about him 580 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: than I do. Am I seeing it wrong? 581 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, and no. Like the overall, I agree 582 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 4: with what you're saying. As far as the trades, by 583 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 4: and large, it was interesting. This guy spent three years 584 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: in Oklahoma State, got on the field right away, and 585 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: his second year, starting twenty twenty three, he won the 586 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 4: Doe Walker. 587 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: He yeah, that was that was the year where he 588 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: looked really, really good. 589 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: And then last year in twenty twenty four, his counting 590 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 4: even though he wasn't nicked up his counting SATs, they 591 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: basically all got cleaved in half literally in half. And 592 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: so it's like a tale of two seats, like which 593 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: one do you trust? And you see people evaluating him 594 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: choosing sort of one or the other, like I'm gonna 595 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: forget the twenty twenty four tape because twenty three was better, 596 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: or you know, twenty twenty three was a mirage. I 597 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: trust the twenty twenty four. I'm in the middle of 598 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: those two things. I think what you saw over those 599 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: two seasons, it's so what changed Alie Gordon didn't change 600 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four. It was his supporting cast. The 601 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 4: offensive line got worse, the receiver play got worse, and 602 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: then they brought back this like eighth year quarterbacks who 603 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: can't throw downfield at all. And so there's their system. 604 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: It was a sideline. They spread the field and then 605 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: it was sidelined to sideline passing. 606 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: Well. 607 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: Defenses realized pretty quick they can't throw down field in 608 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. So all of a sudden, whereas the 609 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: offensive system, you know, we were talking about this was scataboo. 610 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: I like, it'd be interesting to get them in a 611 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: system you thin off the box a little bit for him. 612 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: But with Oklahoma State last year, defense were like we know, 613 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: Alan Bowman, you ain't throwing twenty five plus yards downfield, 614 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 4: so go, we are gonna take We're only going to 615 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: play single high safety because we don't. We don't think 616 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: you're gonna throw downfield and beat us. And that's what happened. 617 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: So they would load the box and Oklahoma State only 618 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: had the five or the six blocking back there. So 619 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: you that's what ended up happening. That's why his his 620 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 4: dat's got cleve down. I think what it showed you 621 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: with Ali Gordon, it's a context specific guy you know 622 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 4: in college, and then it's usage specific when you go 623 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: to the NFL. I think he's a guy who's going 624 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: to give you. You know, it's sort of like we were 625 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: talking about with Scatboo. It's just a lower where you're 626 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: gonna get efficiency as the runner. He's going to get 627 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: what's blocked for him. You know, it's a Lee Roy 628 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: Horden maybe kind of a thing. Yeah, a bigger one, 629 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: you know that. You know, Brian Robinson is my comp 630 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 4: or you could do poor Man's naj Harris because it's 631 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: sort of a similar frame, you know, a knockoff version 632 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: of Naje Harris, but you get the efficiency as a runner, 633 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: at least it is blocked for him. 634 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: You also get efficiency as a receiver. 635 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: He has good hands and he'll turn up field and 636 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: he'll get what he can, but you don't get the explosion, 637 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: the four to six speed that is what he is. 638 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three, he was able to get pile 639 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 4: up all these explosive runs because of those thin boxes, 640 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: because you know, defenses have more guys out there, so 641 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: he was able to get runways more often and then 642 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: would do the run. Though that's what went away last year. 643 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: He ain't getting any explosive runs in the NFL. 644 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hit two more guys. Rishard Smith 645 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: from SMU. His rass is only a seven point zero seven, 646 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: which I doesn't disqualify you from success, but that feels 647 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: like a red flag for me. 648 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 649 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: Well, but the one thing that's good with his athletic profile, 650 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 4: he ran I think the four three nine forty and 651 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: to me that that was sufficient because in the NFL, 652 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: I think what you're looking at, it's a really really, 653 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: really good receiving back. There's some mix and match stuff 654 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: I think where you can keep him in the rotation 655 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: as a pure runner, but I think the majority of 656 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 4: his usage is going to be as the receiving back. 657 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 4: He was a guy who was a ballyhooed slot receiver 658 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: recruit for Miami earlier in his career, had a hard 659 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: time breaking through anyone's SMU and I didn't even realize 660 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: that they had shifted him like he wasn't Like at 661 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 4: the beginning of the year, SMU, they had all these 662 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: former top recruits that were running backs, you know, former 663 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: four or five star guys. They like three of them, 664 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: Richard Smith. They end up quietly converting him to running back. 665 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: Last year in camp he bypassed all of them. 666 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: Wow. 667 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden he found himself at 668 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 4: the top of the depth chart for this team that 669 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: turned out was good. You know, SMU was really good 670 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 4: last year and Berchard Smith was a huge part of 671 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 4: their offense. He is a awesome receiver. I mean again, 672 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: this is a slot receiver that is playing running back. 673 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 4: You get receiver routes for him. It was not fair 674 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 4: in Mobile for some of these linebackers or safeties to 675 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: have to cover him in. 676 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: The one on one drills. 677 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: It was a gulf of separation every single time because 678 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: he runs his again, like a receiver. You see like 679 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: stuff you don't see what the running backs at, toggling 680 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 4: of tempo, setting guys up with shoulder deeks and stuff 681 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: like this. Like he sells it really well where he'll 682 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: break a guy's ankle because like I'm going left and 683 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: you know, it's like a hard deak and then he'll 684 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: go the other way and it's just you know, you 685 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: have a six yard halo around him. So that's what 686 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 4: he's going to provide for his NFL offense, and he's 687 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: going to be a valued receiving back at the next level. 688 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: Your comp on Burchard Smith is. 689 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: My cump on Burchard Smith is Nahim Heines. 690 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 4: It's a similar frame similar similar Yeah, like uh, you 691 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: know with with that sort of stuff, and I think 692 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 4: he could be perhaps a little bit better than than 693 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: heines in the NFL. But heines, as you recall, you 694 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: know that he got a ton of receptions there for 695 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: for a stretch, So he did. 696 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: That's what I think you're getting. 697 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna pair him with like the meat and 698 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: potatoes back and then Burchard's you're just gonna allow him 699 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: to do his thing. 700 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: Okay, you're number fifteen overall running back in this draft class, 701 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: la Quint Allen from Sarahcuse, Uh, your comp here is 702 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: at one point and it was for Shod White. Is 703 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: it Stillshot White? 704 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: It is? 705 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: It is still Rashad White. Okay, they're they're taller backs. 706 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: Uh six. I think Rashad White's six foot as well, 707 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 4: but la Quinn Allen's six foot, two hundred four pounds. 708 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 4: Rashad White at least he tested as a better athlete 709 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 4: than I would anticipate lea Quinn testing. We didn't get 710 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: to see much of that at the combine. But it's 711 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: a smooth back who is a tremendous receiver and you 712 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 4: watch heraccuse last year and their offense got more fun. 713 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 4: They had Kyle mccortz. They were throwing the ball around more. 714 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: They did such interesting stuff with Leaquinn Allen as a receiver, 715 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: both out of the backfield, but they frequently would shift him, 716 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: whether it's to the you know, and sometimes they'd have 717 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: the four receivers out. He would do the left slot, 718 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: the right slot. There'd be other times he would go 719 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: out to the boundary, so they would shift them out 720 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: and then you're you're getting tells from the defense when 721 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: he is shifting out and then sometimes you can isolate 722 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 4: him in a in a matchup that is extremely advantageous 723 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: for you. And every time they did, when they had 724 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 4: him isolated on some slow footed linebacker, some slow, slow 725 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: footed strong safety, lea quinn Allen would would eat their lunch. 726 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: So this is it's a really really talented receiver. That's 727 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 4: what I see that with with him and Rashad White, 728 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 4: similar frames and just really really good receivers. 729 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: All right, llquinn Allen I said, we were just going 730 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: to do those two guys, but I think if only 731 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: for name recognition, we should hit on Trevor Etn because 732 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: people obviously know his brother, and so I think there's 733 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: going to be automatically some attention paid to him. But 734 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: maybe people aren't as familiar with this game, although he 735 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: played at Georgia's, so I think a lot of people are. 736 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on him? You've got him 737 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: as your number eighteen overall running back. 738 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Trevor Etn. He's undersized, you know, not 739 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: as big as his brother. He came in to the 740 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 4: combine and measured in at five foot just a little 741 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: bit less than five foot nine hundred and ninety eight 742 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 4: pounds ran a four to four two that was better 743 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 4: than some people were expecting. He's a decent athlete, you know, 744 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: no better than that. But it's a guy that I 745 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: think is going to be a committee back at the 746 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: next level that will factor in there. I combed him 747 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 4: to Miles gask and I do think that there is 748 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: a cap ceiling there. But he's sort of a grinder guy. 749 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: He gives you a little bit of speed, he has 750 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 4: solid agility, he can he can catch, you know, he 751 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: do a little bit of the running. You're not gonna 752 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: want him to handle a lot of the inside the 753 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: tackles type concepts at the next level. But he can 754 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: certainly be a guy in a committee at the NFL level. 755 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: All right, And I gotta give you a tip of 756 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: the hat for having a comp on our list for 757 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: a player we didn't end up getting to of Trunk Candidate. 758 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: I completely forgotten that he was a guy. Like, Wow, 759 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: that is a deep call right there to go to with. 760 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: Mar Marcus Yarns and Trunk Candidate, they're the pointing spider man. 761 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 4: I love Marcus Yarns this game. And by the way, 762 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 4: Trunk Canady. We can get into a Trunk candidate thing. 763 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: If Trunk candidate he missed his era. Don't you agree 764 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: with this charge? If Trunk Canada come out now, I 765 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: think you would have seen a better player in the 766 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 4: NFL then we ended up getting. 767 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: But you know, as we get smaller, as the game. 768 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 4: Goes more towards speedy players like this, they become more valuable. 769 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 4: And Marcus Yarns is a guy where it's the speed 770 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 4: kills that he's small, but it's. 771 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: The speed kills. 772 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: And I think you're going to get two developmental bullets 773 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: with him because if he doesn't, if you don't like 774 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 4: him as the receiving back, once you get him in 775 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 4: the building, I think you can try him as a 776 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: two to two at well type, take the top off 777 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 4: the defense, whether it be in the slotter or even 778 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 4: on the boundary. They played him at Delaware all the time, 779 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 4: in the slot or in the ery, Okay, and he 780 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 4: looks like a receiver. 781 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 782 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 4: They He had some of the funnest usage usage that 783 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 4: you'll see, but his receiving skull it is like a receiver. 784 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: He was one of the few players that the NFL 785 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: requested at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, specifically that they 786 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 4: work out at a different position. The NFL ask Marcus 787 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 4: Yearns to work out at receiver, so you might get 788 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 4: a guy where you get some of the usage with it. 789 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: It's all receiving with him, but some of it out 790 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 4: of the backfield, some of it with the slot. I 791 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 4: think you're going to see really cool things with him 792 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: at the next level. 793 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've worked in a couple extra guys. 794 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if we got to all twelve that 795 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: we had talked about potentially getting to in this one, 796 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: but this was still a ton of fun. My man, 797 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: you are so good with the incoming rookie class, and 798 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk to you more. 799 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 3: Can't wait. 800 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Thor, you are the best. You can see 801 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: all of Thor's ongoing work fantasylife dot com and it 802 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: definitely encourage you to check that out as well. Bye bye. 803 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Weekly is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 804 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 805 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows.