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Speaker 3: Tye welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys and girls.

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Speaker 3: My name is ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 3: there in New York City, My man, Dan Rubinstein, Sir.

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Speaker 1: That was very FM radio voice of me.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 4: I am excited for this show. I have made a

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Speaker 4: big deal this offseason and when we preview the ACC

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Speaker 4: fatlantic of saying the ACC is joke free. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: I have to back that up in talking about the

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Speaker 4: ACC Coastal today. But I'm feeling good. I had a

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Speaker 4: lot of energy for our big ten show. This one,

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling more like standard Dan, which is either good

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Speaker 1: You're back to absolute Dan, is what I'm mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm back baby, Absolute Dan. That's right. The pH balance is.

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Speaker 4: Standard bar? Yeashtag tenders with tie. We're going out afterwards.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Dan and I put as much energy

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Speaker 3: be a fun night out in Chicago. Can I ask

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Speaker 3: you a question about the show. Yes, please, I pitched

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Speaker 3: that's true. Yeah, that's your only hint.

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Speaker 4: I pitched you on something that will add an element

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Speaker 4: be doing something visually. Yeah, this is starting to sound strange,

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Speaker 2: So there is.

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Speaker 3: No, now, that's that's very fair.

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Speaker 1: Exclusive to this that's going to be special, all right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah buddy, Sure, yeah, buddy. So what are we doing

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Speaker 3: today on the show? What's our what's our plan of attack?

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Speaker 1: Here our poe.

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Speaker 4: We're we're talking about the ACC Coastal and the AAC East,

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Speaker 4: the American Athletic Conference Eastern Division, which has a number

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Speaker 4: of teams that I think we could best define as

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Speaker 4: sauce filled.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what sauce filled.

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Speaker 4: Sa u se like if you look at certain position groups,

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Speaker 4: as if you look at certain momentum from last year

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of these teams have some sauce.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at ECU, Cincinnati and Yukon at the bottom

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Speaker 3: And each one, I'm not kidding, each one in the

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Speaker 3: ten wins combined among those three teams from a year ago.

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Speaker 2: So that is true.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if ECU, if Pirate or Bearcat

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Speaker 3: There's that much more to say, is the sexy Randy

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Speaker 3: We got to play sexier than Etzel at some point,

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Speaker 3: maybe later on in this show.

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Speaker 2: We can do it with coaches in the AAC East.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, Okay.

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Speaker 3: ACC Coastal is you know one of those sides of

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Speaker 3: the ACC that you and I have had some fun with.

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Speaker 3: I believe it was last year, maybe the year before,

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Speaker 3: maybe three years running now, or we've played this little

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Speaker 3: game of did these two ACC teams play?

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Speaker 2: It was an impossible game.

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Speaker 3: It really is an impossible game because there are a

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Speaker 3: lot of similarities among these teams, and for better or worse, gosh,

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Speaker 3: a lot of them feel the same.

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Speaker 4: Well, you watch them the game. A lot of these

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Speaker 4: games between the non heavyweights of the conference are that

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Speaker 4: ACC network is in your local community where Wake Forest, NC,

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Speaker 2: Think I flipped past that has right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay? What is your general takeaway?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: Keep in mind the framework for all of our previews

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Speaker 3: is why should people care? M Because we're all adults

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Speaker 3: got busy lives. Why should why should anyone give a

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Speaker 3: damn about like pit football? Why tell me why? So

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Speaker 3: to pit football. Don't spoil the surprise. Sorry, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 3: don't talk about Jester wea out of turn? Please, thank you?

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Speaker 1: But why should people care in general about the ACC Coastal?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Tell me, oh about in general? About the coastal

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there is something to every team that you can

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say in any given week anybody

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Speaker 4: stay on this channel because it's getting a little weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And whether it's Pit upsetting Clemson a couple of years

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that. An it's good TV.

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Speaker 3: What kind of motto can we give the ACC Coastal

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Speaker 3: to really jazz it up? You know, because there's a

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Speaker 3: week you're just not sure what's gonna happen. Can you

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Speaker 3: help me workshop this? Over the course of an episode,

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Speaker 3: what happens along the coast what was.

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Speaker 4: The show on HBO with Reese Wetherspoon. The uh, there's

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Speaker 3: But because I mean we had ACC fat Atlantic, I

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, let's think this about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's think this through. Okay, Okay, we're big on branding.

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Speaker 3: Where should we start in the ACC DAN in the

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Speaker 4: Me, Let's let's start with the most acc coastal team.

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Speaker 2: That's Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. All right, Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, they lose ted Roof, which I think is good

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Speaker 3: Kind of a big deal because the thing with Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 1: Really for as far back as I can remember.

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Speaker 3: So what does Nate Woody bring over from app State

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Speaker 4: So coaching ability, organization, They shift to a new defensive

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Speaker 4: But Georgia Tech, particularly with how they have the ability

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Speaker 4: their ceiling looks like, it could be offensively this year.

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Speaker 4: So whether or not Nate Woody is that, dude, I

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Speaker 4: think there's still a couple of years away recruiting wise,

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Speaker 4: even though they've been recruiting better of late. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it matters how often Ted Roof, how often Nate

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Speaker 4: Woody reaches back into his quiver.

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Speaker 2: That's a Robin Hood reference.

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Speaker 1: It's a Robin Hood reference. Y, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Just you know he The arrows aren't necessarily there. The

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Speaker 4: That game at USF will be really fun. That's strength thought,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Virginia Tech. Okay, Virginia Tech is coached

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Speaker 1: So let's start with Josh Jackson. M hmm. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does hurt that they lose.

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Speaker 3: Tremay and Edmonds though at linebacker, Like, I don't really

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Speaker 4: The back half of their defense is real new, and

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Speaker 3: But here here's the thing. Yeah, you're right, that can'll

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is sort of I mean, not that they

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Speaker 4: But they went nine and three, not because they perfectly

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: No, it's it's a fine place to be.

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Speaker 4: And even if if Josh Jackson struggles without really that

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Speaker 4: I think they have two blue chip quarterbacks behind him,

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: Dan In the last I think two years under Justin Fuente,

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Speaker 4: There are only three games where definitively they look like

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll just say that Virginia Tech, Virginia Tech

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Speaker 1: Speaking of clean experiences, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, that's why you're a pro.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to duke football.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say the turnover chain is nice

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Speaker 1: I almost did, but I wanted to throw you a curve.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Okay, good, clean, fun duke football.

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Speaker 1: So here's what they bring back.

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Speaker 3: M M my boy, Daniel, Joe redemption year running back,

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Speaker 3: Britton Brown, Yes, back.

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Speaker 2: Up last year but promising for sure.

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Speaker 3: Trey Hornbuckle defensive end has to be really good. Joe

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Speaker 3: Giles Harris didn't he have like an old pop song

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Speaker 3: written about him?

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Speaker 1: That was the Jay Giles Band. Excuse me, yes, I look.

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Speaker 2: Give me your deep dark duke thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I'm always a little I'm always a little higher on

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones than I should be.

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Speaker 2: That's okay.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones was really good his first year. The last year,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is really good. Yeah, last year left a

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Speaker 3: little bit to be desired. So I'm still kind of

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Speaker 3: punch drunk on that Daniel Jones potential. I like the

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Speaker 3: fact that they're going to blitz on defense.

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 4: So I hope they keep it up that Jim Knowles

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Speaker 4: defense as he goes to Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: Yes, at least last year they like blitz it on defense. Yes,

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Speaker 1: what else? The schedule is somewhat tricky.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay if you don't have a lot of

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Speaker 4: strong duke thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't really.

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Speaker 3: They've got Clemson in the middle of like a tough

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Speaker 3: stretch before South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So there's that, I guess.

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Speaker 4: But their non conference schedule, when we've been looking at

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Speaker 4: and preparing for these previews, I have in the back

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Speaker 4: of my mind filed away that Duke is playing fourteen

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Speaker 4: different teams in the non conference part. As I'm adding

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Speaker 4: together wins, I'm saying, hey, they can be duke. About

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Speaker 4: what felt like usc UNLV Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: It turns out.

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Speaker 4: They have Army Northwestern, Baylor, and North Carolina Central to

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Speaker 4: start the season.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they bring back fifteen starters from a year ago.

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Speaker 3: They won what six games in the regular season. They

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Speaker 3: won their bowl game, right, they had Northern Illinois Quick Lane.

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Speaker 1: Bowl something like that.

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Speaker 3: Whatever, I think they are in actually a pretty good

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Speaker 3: spot to improve upon. There are six wins from the

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Speaker 3: year ago, being so, they are a more veteran team sure,

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Speaker 3: and being so, I think the schedule is relatively workable here.

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Speaker 3: So I'm a little higher on Duke than I expected

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I think they are right in that bull threat

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Speaker 4: reigned once again, which is still new and crazy to

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Speaker 4: say about Duke given you the recent history of the program.

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Speaker 4: At least, it's been a while since they've been flat

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Speaker 4: out bad. They've been pretty decent recently. A little worried

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Speaker 4: about their offensive line, but the defense looks solid all around,

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Speaker 4: and again playing in the coastal middle of the third

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Speaker 4: quarter like oh, Duke's up fourteen on Virginia Tech. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm watching this and Duke has one of

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Speaker 4: the i don't know, all time underrated or modern underrated

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Speaker 4: coaches and David Cutcliffe, who is if he is on

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Speaker 4: one of those ESPN coaches.

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Speaker 1: Chan during the playoffs, you watch, you watch to hear

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Speaker 1: what he has to say.

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Speaker 4: He like, he is one of probably my top five

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Speaker 4: road trip coaches. We're just like, yep, we're driving from

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Speaker 4: LA to New York. We're driving from Seattle to David Cutcliffe, Yes,

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Speaker 4: in a road trip. Yes, I think he is. He's

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Speaker 4: been around forever, He's coached a I mean, he's like

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Speaker 4: the Mannings quarterback guru. If you want a road trip,

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Speaker 4: and okay, maybe it's not cross country, maybe it's Austin

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Speaker 4: to Minneapolis, but you just wanted, like you want to

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Speaker 4: hear nerdy stories about college football. I think he is.

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Speaker 4: He's a little Folksye. When he was at Tennessee, he

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Speaker 4: was at Old Miss coach the Mannings. He's been at

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Speaker 4: Duke forever. Now, okay, he is. He is a very

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Speaker 4: early draft pick in my coach.

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Speaker 1: Let's pump the brakes on this year.

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Speaker 4: God, I can't believe you're disagreeing, David cut Cliff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he has enough content to last from

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Speaker 3: Austin to Minneapoli?

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Speaker 4: I would, I would probably try to day drink. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if he's a drinker. I definitely am not.

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Speaker 4: I would try to get that honesty juice flowing because

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Speaker 4: I want those manning stories.

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Speaker 3: You're really mining there for manning stories. Now, that's all

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Speaker 3: you're getting out of that from data.

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Speaker 4: I think he or just like offensive explainers. I think

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Speaker 4: he's got a lot. I think he's a smart dude.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I can't believe you're putting down cut I

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Speaker 4: like David Cutcliffe. I just don't know if I'd want

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Speaker 4: to spend that many hours. I don't know how many

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Speaker 4: hours it is from Austin to Minneapolis, but it's across

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Speaker 4: the country, just not across the wide part. Uh okay,

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Speaker 4: with how receivers have developed there, with how quarterbacks have

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Speaker 4: developed there. I think Duke and I have their schedule

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Speaker 4: in front of me right now, even with that weird

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Speaker 4: tricky They open with an option and then they go

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Speaker 4: to Northwestern and go to Baylor, which should be improved. Wise,

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Speaker 4: the back half is tough or the BA the back four,

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Speaker 4: they have Miami and Clemson in a two week span.

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Speaker 4: They finished with Wake, they go to Georgia Tech and

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Speaker 4: they go to Pitt, Which listen, Pitt's got to be

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Speaker 4: different at a certain point than what they've been recently.

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Speaker 4: I think Duke can get Army, Northwestern, Baylor, Virginia Pitt,

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Speaker 4: North Carolina that got them to six and even Wake

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Speaker 4: that gots them to seven.

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Speaker 1: Seven and five, eight and four for Duke.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, Okay, I'm six and six, seven and five.

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Speaker 3: By the way, how many times in ten years have

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Speaker 3: we gotten that question about which coaches would you like

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Speaker 3: to be on a road trip with which?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rank coaches by condiments? Yeah, they appear to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you, David cut club is top five.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's move on. Let's go to Miami. Let's

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Speaker 3: go back to that. Let's do it for Jane. Miami

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Speaker 3: went ten and two a year ago, an exciting year.

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Speaker 3: Malik Rose Year is back, Travis Homer is back, i'mon

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Speaker 3: Richards and Jeff Thomas are back. Joe Jackson shack quaterman,

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Speaker 3: Michael Pinkney, Jakwan Johnson.

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Speaker 2: They might have the best linebacking corn in the country.

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Speaker 3: Sheldrick red Wine, great name all back for Miami this season.

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Speaker 3: There are plenty of reasons to be very optimistic about

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Speaker 3: where this team could go next. It's part of the

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Speaker 3: reason why they brought Mark Richt over after he was

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Speaker 3: let go from Georgia. This is the best team that

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Speaker 3: Mark Richt has had now in his three years at Miami.

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Speaker 4: Probably last year's defense was scary good. But yes, I

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Speaker 4: can see potentially with the offensive experience being the most

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Speaker 4: explosive offense that he's had.

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Speaker 3: They're very fast, They're very talented on offense. I think

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Speaker 3: that they've got enough AMMO on this schedule outside of

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Speaker 3: the ACC with LSU in week one, mm hmm to

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Speaker 3: really kind of Yeah, it's a tricky spot establish themselves

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Speaker 3: outside of conference.

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Speaker 1: Talk me off the ledge.

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Speaker 3: Tell me why Miami isn't a dark horse national title contender?

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Speaker 1: What tell me why? Dan? Tell me why?

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Speaker 4: Because I think we all watched the back half of

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Speaker 4: Malik Rogier's twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: But that was last year. Guys can improve.

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Speaker 2: They can improve.

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Speaker 4: He showed a lot, but if he has to win

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Speaker 4: games with his arm more often than not. And their

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Speaker 4: schedule is such that even just opening with LSU, Greedy

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Speaker 4: Williams and that backfield.

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Speaker 1: LSU stinks. They stink this year. I'm out. I'm out

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Speaker 1: on LSU.

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Speaker 4: So, okay, here's what Miamis schedule is. Here's here are

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Speaker 4: games where you would worry if you're concerned about Miami.

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Speaker 4: They host Florida State and as far as a SEC games,

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Speaker 4: that's kind it. No Clemson during the regular season, No

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Speaker 4: Louisville during the regular season, no team that you can

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Speaker 4: talk yourself into being scary any given week like BC.

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Speaker 4: Nobody like that they go to BC. Excuse me. So

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Speaker 4: that was very very quick turnaround for that point. But

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Speaker 4: really I like this Miami team a lot. I think

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Speaker 4: offensively they're going to be pretty scary if Jeff Thomas

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Speaker 4: continues to develop. I know Braxton Barrios is gone and

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Speaker 4: Aman Richards has had injury issues, but if he's on

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Speaker 4: the field, that right there is one of the best

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Speaker 4: eight receiving course in the country. They've recruited very well. Defensively,

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Speaker 4: they should be in a good place, even losing that

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Speaker 4: defensive line, maybe even most importantly losing Craig Kulongowski, who

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Speaker 4: is one of the best three defensive line coaches in

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Speaker 4: the country, had a ton of success at Mazoo. Now

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Speaker 4: goes to You're going to be shocked to hear it.

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Speaker 4: The Alabama Crimson.

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Speaker 1: Tie, Alabama Crimson Tide. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Miami is in a very good place. I don't know

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Speaker 4: that Malik Rogier is going to have the latitude to

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Speaker 4: make as many mistakes while a defense is performing admirably

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Speaker 4: as he did last year. I would keep an eye

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Speaker 4: on Nikosy Perry, who is young, yes, but has an

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Speaker 4: arm and I think could develop. I think might have

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Speaker 4: a higher ceiling. Now that we've seen Malik Rosier in

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Speaker 4: a very like Brandon Wimbush way, he certainly gives you

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 1: He is six four, He's got a very James Blackman

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Speaker 1: build to him.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about Nikcosy Perry or Malik Rosier Nikosy Perry.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he's young, he'll he'll put on more weight.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I could see this Miami team going ten

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Speaker 4: and two and not putting, not having a lot of

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Speaker 4: difficulty doing so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel ten and two. I don't think national title.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you asked about national title. I'm not quite there,

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Speaker 4: but I don't think it's to beat Hey, it's a

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Speaker 4: question we were asking last year, and you know what,

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Speaker 4: it's a very good year to get Florida State at

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Speaker 4: home with a little coach and a lot of quarterback

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Speaker 4: questions throwing into what should be a really dangerous back

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Speaker 4: half of that defense.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we'll see.

660
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: I like Miami a good deal, and I think they're

661
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: going to rotate in a lot of youth. You're going

662
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: to see a lot of different names, which is fun.

663
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch Miami.

664
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: This year, as you should be.

665
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: They lose a lot upfront on defense, though I am

666
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: concerned about that. Shall we go to Pitt now the

667
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: natural dude.

668
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: I'm so ready, I am so ready.

669
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to know the biggest addition for Pitt

670
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: Football twenty eighteen?

671
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: What is it?

672
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 3: Pat Bostick is back in the radio announcer? Hell yeah,

673
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: my man, Pat Bostick. So here's the deal. I've talked

674
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: about this before. I listened to a lot of games

675
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: on the radio.

676
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

677
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 1: Not always in front of the TV. I've got a life,

678
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 1: just like a lot of other people out there. I'm

679
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: not always able to perch in front of a TV.

680
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of games.

681
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: On Serious XM Serial XM U, and one of the

682
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: great joys is listening to some of the hometown announcers

683
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: and one of the guys who I have genuinely enjoyed

684
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: over the years. Pat Bostik, he hasn't called pit football

685
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: in a couple of years, but just saw that he

686
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: is going to be back in the booth.

687
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 4: So it was something pretty incredible about associating a lone

688
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 4: singular voice with a program's games.

689
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: I love that he's great former quarterback at Pitt, He's

690
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: a great commentator. So I'm excited just from a fans

691
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: perspective to kind of get that insight listening to Pitt

692
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: Football this season. Pit Football last year though, on the

693
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: field went five and seven, And you know, we're kind

694
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: of in this vein now where we're looking at Pat

695
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: and Ardoozy and I guess we're wondering if, when will

696
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: can he bring any of that magic over that we

697
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: grew accustomed to seeing with him as defensive coordinator at

698
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 3: Michigan State.

699
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

700
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: I think it's a fair question to ask. It's part

701
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 4: of the for this defense in these past few years.

702
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: It's been a slug.

703
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: Now this year for his defense, he does have nine

704
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: guys back, and so that should bode well, I would

705
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: think for that defense. My question though, is on offense.

706
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: It really is an offense where there's only four guys back.

707
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: You mentioned Kenny Pickett. I think a little earlier in

708
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: this show, he gives Pitt fans, I think, a reason

709
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 3: to be optimistic but scrappy, you know, across the board here, Dan,

710
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: we're talking about mostly a new offensive line, kind of

711
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: a rebuild ish situation on offense. So, like, I think

712
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: that speaks to a potentially lopsided performance from the pit

713
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: Panthers in twenty eighteen.

714
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

715
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that we're two years removed from Pitt having one

716
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: of Like in the conversation, like, does Pitt have the

717
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: best offensive line in the country? When they beat Clemson?

718
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: Their offensive line was ridiculous and they in recent years,

719
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: I've had three four receivers who were like, Wow, they

720
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: did a fantastic job developing these guys, and now it's

721
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 4: just receivers not great running back might be fine for them.

722
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: I like Caadriallis and Darren Hall. I think came on

723
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 4: pretty strong, and it's just they're in such a different

724
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 4: place so quickly. And some of that to me is recruiting.

725
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 4: Some of that to me is they've had a lot

726
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 4: of transfers. You know, Ben Denucci came out last year

727
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 4: as like a heralded true freshman, came in when Max

728
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 4: Brown struggled. He struggled, transferred, gone, And so there's just

729
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 4: like this crazy turnover happening with Pitt. That the emergence

730
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: of Kenny Pickett, and he looks like he should start

731
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: after how he finished last year. Ricky Town transfers in

732
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: Ricky Town of commit Tobama commit and go to USC,

733
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: transfer out of USC during fall camp, transfer to Arkansas,

734
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: leave Arkansas for junior college, transfer to Pitt, so he

735
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: might be then two quarterback. The guy behind Ricky Town

736
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: is Nick Patty, who I was pretty sure finished up

737
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 4: his eligibility in like twenty fifteen, and here we are.

738
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: He goes Boise State UCF pit. At least seven schools

739
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: between them.

740
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: A lot of frequent flyer miles on that pit roster.

741
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: A lot of just shirts to buy for your parents. Yeah,

742
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: there's a lot of bookstar trips. Anyway, I am willing

743
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 4: to believe in this pit team to like a certain

744
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: to like a six and six extent, because there isn't

745
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: enough on.

746
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Defense that intrigues me. I there just isn't.

747
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: There's not there's a little bit of sauce, but it's

748
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: like fast food size, not a full side dish at

749
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: a restaurant of in terms of sauce quantity. And the

750
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: schedule is it sets up in an interesting way as

751
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: for being like the Indiana of which I don't know who.

752
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: This is an insult to the Indiana of the acc

753
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: coastal in the way that they are. They happen to

754
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: be in a lot of trap and look ahead and

755
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: let down spots. They get Virginia Tech a week before

756
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech Miami. They get Miami a week before Miami

757
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: goes to Georgia Tech and to Virginia Tech. They get

758
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: Notre Dame a week after the Virginia Tech and Stanford

759
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: won two. So Pit's in a good place to be

760
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 4: very pity this year, to be secretly decent in that

761
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: they are in the right place at the right time.

762
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: But there's just the problem, Tie, and I think you

763
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: can appreciate this. My lasting memory of the twenty seventeen

764
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: Pitt Panthers is Oklahoma State doing layup lines. Is watching

765
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: that game, watching Oklahoma State drop like fifty on them

766
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 4: in the first half and doing so like Pit showed

767
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: up late to the stadium.

768
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: Both of their.

769
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 4: Safeties were wearing jeans, like there was something absolutely disorienting

770
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 4: about how Pitt looked in that game that anything beyond

771
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: six and six a year later feels like a stretch,

772
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: because again, that is burned into my skull.

773
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: I saw that day, the indelible images of.

774
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: James Washington abusing Pit.

775
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm going to say seven and five. Dan, Okay,

776
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 3: anything can get the seven and five. But it's really

777
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: a leap of faith here that they can get it

778
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: together more on offense, because look, just not a lot

779
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: back from a year ago.

780
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 4: By the way, Pat, because you're bringing up Pat Bostek,

781
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: good underrated quarterback name, yeah, very good. Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,

782
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: Pat White, Pat Devlin obviously a crowd favorite. So there's

783
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: a lot to it. All right, that's all I have.

784
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about, like famous Pats.

785
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: Let's go to North Carolina. Okay, North Carolina three and

786
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: nine from a year ago. Their coach Larry Fedora a

787
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: bit skeptical about football's effects on the human head, thank god.

788
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: And if North Carolina doesn't do well this year, that

789
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: could be the end of the United States specifically tied

790
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: to football and by extension North Carolina football.

791
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 2: That might have been my favorite offseason story.

792
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: And they're like, god, it was just the problem is

793
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to start my thoughts on this in like

794
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 4: seventeen different cries. Oh God, imagine like imagine having imagine

795
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: thinking about this topic in a nuanced way and trying

796
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: to say things like football is safer than it's ever been,

797
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: which is totally true.

798
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: That's true.

799
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, but you can't wrap that in garbage. You

800
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: can't wrap that in not sense, and it takes away

801
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 4: every so as background, Larry Fedora at ACC Media Days

802
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: decided that was the time to say, you know, America's

803
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 4: troops are the best because so many of them played football,

804
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: and if football goes away as we know it, so

805
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 4: will the United States of America, and decided to use

806
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: that platform to say these things. And it makes you

807
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: want to root against North Carolina.

808
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: It just does well.

809
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: It reminds me a lot of just having a lot

810
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: of opinions on things, yes, mutually exclusive things that end

811
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: up kind of running together because you feel strongly about

812
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: all of them. Right, And so when I read about this,

813
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, look, okay, that's it. That's an

814
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: eye opener.

815
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: Of all the academic institutions and the academics relationship to

816
00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: football North Carolina Sterling no issues academic academic thought and

817
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 4: football that I.

818
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: Got I got rejected from UNC. Really Yeah, it's real nice.

819
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: Chapel Hill, that area is great. Yeah.

820
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: Should we talk about North Carolina? And they surely will

821
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: be better this year.

822
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: It will be better.

823
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 3: They've got thirteen starters back as I see it, here

824
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: a pretty favorable road schedule, dan.

825
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely.

826
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: They do going to Miami, which will be difficult. But

827
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 3: beyond that, like at Syracuse, at Virginia, at Douke, you

828
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: can you can navigate that in the ACC. I think

829
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: this is a team that is really right for a

830
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: lot of improvement in twenty eighteen.

831
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, the road schedule is very good. They go

832
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 4: to cal And as we know, body clock tie, yep,

833
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: body clock the.

834
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Bower hour Man.

835
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: They go to East Carolina. That's fine. You c F

836
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: will not be as good as the Knights were last.

837
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Year, No, not, I think so.

838
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 4: If you're UCF and you get to throw into the

839
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 4: North Carolina defense, pretty good.

840
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfectly fine.

841
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 4: Mackenzie Milton should if you're into fantasy college football, and

842
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: you are able to draft group of five players, that

843
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: will be a good time to start Mackenzie Milton. Yes,

844
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: they go to Miami and that's going to be difficult,

845
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: but hosting Virginia tach, hosting Georgia Tech. They think get

846
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: West Carolina. They finished the season the rivalry game against

847
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: NC State, So in terms of the road schedule to

848
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: bounce back, yes, this could be a bowl schedule for

849
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: North Carolina. Quarterback is still to me an issue, but

850
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: quarterbacks should be at least fine with where quarterbacks have

851
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 4: been recently with North Carolina. Probably not the same since

852
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 4: Seth Latrelle left, but they the possibility of a Chas

853
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: to a dazz Oh Boy chess Rot to dazz Newsome.

854
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Is pretty tantalizing.

855
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, And just because we like putting these two

856
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 4: teams in the context of could they find themselves right place,

857
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 4: right time? They do get Miami a week before Miami's

858
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: Florida State game. They miss Florida State and Clemson cross

859
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: division wise, and Anthony Ratliffe Williams came on real nicely

860
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 4: last year. Jordan Brown I think is intriguing. They could

861
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: find themselves if either Chaz or Nathan Elliott ends up

862
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 4: under center. They could win some games thirty five to thirty.

863
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 4: They could, for sure.

864
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: I think I'm with you. They can't be any worse

865
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: than three and nine. They're not gonna be three and

866
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: nine again. No, they'll be healthier, for sure, they're gonna

867
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: be healthier. The schedule is quite favorable.

868
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Worried about the offensive line? I am that is worrisome.

869
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, as I look at the schedule, I'm gonna count ECU,

870
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna count Pitt. I'm gonna count Virginia, Virginia now,

871
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: Virginia Tech, Syracuse, West Carolina. And I'll throw another in there.

872
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: I'll say six and six.

873
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say five and seven. Okay, they make a

874
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 4: bowl game four and eight, five and seven ish? Too

875
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 4: many questions when you have the quarterback and offensive line

876
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: question on.

877
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: The same team. Ha, not my favorite.

878
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: That's fair enough.

879
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 4: Should we finish this out, Let's do it all right,

880
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: prepare yourselves. We have what we've been recording for what

881
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: looks to be about what forty eight minutes.

882
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 2: Yes, so we've got about an hour to talk about Virginia.

883
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: That's right. Kurt Bankert gone gone. He was pretty good.

884
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, moments that was he had some dips, some

885
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: dipping sauces.

886
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

887
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: They their offense is going to be They better hope

888
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: Bryce Perkins, who is looks like he's going to be

889
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 4: the starter, the transfer who I think played junior college

890
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 4: in Arizona, dual threat guy.

891
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: They have to hope he's super good.

892
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: They've got a couple good receivers, one of whom might

893
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: have my favorite name in the conference, if not beyond

894
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: and he is my dude, tie Oulhamide Zikias.

895
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: Wow, is super good. You did better with that than

896
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: I could have.

897
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: He is.

898
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: He's He's very good and fast, and it's unfortunate that

899
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: he has to play for that offense. They lose a

900
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 4: good amount on defense. Quinn Blanding is like the hipster

901
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: Derwin James of the ACC, the do all safety that

902
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: was ridiculous for a long long time. Virginia is gonna

903
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: have a pretty decent defense. I think they'll have a

904
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: top forty five to fifty defense and that'll get him

905
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: pretty far against some possibly suspect offenses. You know, Duke

906
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: struggled at times on offense. North Carolina's struggled on offense.

907
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: Pid struggle on offense. You know, Virginia Tech had some

908
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: stretches where they weren't scoring points. So continuity even though

909
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: they lose some key pieces up front of Virginia's defense,

910
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: especially in the back half of that defense, has me

911
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: feeling like, even with some much needed talent in Charlottesville,

912
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 4: that they can go to a bowl game once again.

913
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 4: They'll they'll be right on that quest that five and seven,

914
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: six and six quest again? Drive for six? Yeah, I

915
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: say six and six. I'm with you, okay, reasonable, I

916
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: have it.

917
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: By the way I came up with it. What ACC

918
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: coastal is gonna get a little crazy? It always does, right.

919
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

920
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: There's like a hardy middle class ACC postal.

921
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: So unfair to the postal workers of this country. Tie

922
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 2: day in and day out, rain or shine. ACC postals.

923
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: Not bad ACC postal. Thank you the fatlantic in the postal.

924
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: There you go, the.

925
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 4: Fatlantic in the postal. You want to talk about the

926
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: American East real quick?

927
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: The ACT East?

928
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 3: Yes, so we've got who you UCF who went eleven

929
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: or zer last year regular season won the National Championship

930
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: of course, Yes, USF Temple, ECU, Cincinnati and Yukon We've

931
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: already tipped our hand a little bit in saying that

932
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: the notes field of our shared document says meh for

933
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: all three of them, but.

934
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: Couldn't really find much to care about.

935
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: So let's talk about UCF. Let's spend a little bit

936
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: of time talking about UCF. Their coach is obviously gone,

937
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 3: He's going home Dan to Lincoln, Nebraska. Scott Frost no

938
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: longer the head football coach, to bring over Josh hoypol

939
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: hype Boul from Missouri. He was formerly the offensive coordinator

940
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: there last year led a really good Missouri offense. So

941
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: with that coaching change, I think brings a little bit

942
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: of uncertainty for UCF now as they prepared to try

943
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: and defend that title in twenty eighteen.

944
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Where do we stand with the Knights?

945
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: So they're not going to try to do all that

946
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: much different. I don't think on offense where they've been

947
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 4: these past couple of years. Mackenzie Milton is back and

948
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: is what top ten quarterback in the country at his best,

949
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 4: chose to tre Kwon Smith, but Trederick Snelson is back

950
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: and productive. I'm a little bit more concerned about what

951
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 4: they lose on defense, namely a guy who is playing

952
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: eleven positions at once and is just a stupid good

953
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 4: player in Chaquem Griffin. Shaquem Griffin who moves on to

954
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: the NFL and all American caliber linebackers.

955
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: So that hurts.

956
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: They lose a lot around him on defense as well,

957
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a fantastic defense, But losing a lot

958
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: from a not like a slightly below average defense concerns

959
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 4: me because I don't think the offensive fireworks will be

960
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: there like they were last year. They do hire Randy Shannon,

961
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 4: so he will be installing his defense, and I would

962
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: imagine because of his connections, if Josh Hipel lasts at

963
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: UCF where they Orlando, that the defense should be pretty

964
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: good given Randy Shannon's history and ability to get talent.

965
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, they're not going undefeated.

966
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's fine.

967
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

968
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: So beyond UCF, then, who is clearly I think the

969
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: top dog in the AAC East. We've got USF, a

970
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: USF team that look. USF's been in the in the

971
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: news recently. I think they're in decent shape.

972
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially on offense. Charling Gilbert.

973
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, could be Blake Barnett playing quarterback this year. You

974
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: remember Blake Barnett, speaking of frequent flyer Miles, I think

975
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: they should be the pretty good team here.

976
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have the clear best defense, and we'll see

977
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: what happens with Temple, but they have the clear best

978
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 4: defense in the division, if not the conference as a whole.

979
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 4: We'll see what Houston with at Oliver it looks like.

980
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, USF should probably win nine or ten games again,

981
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: and season was cut short last year, but this is

982
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: going to be a very good USF team. Quinn Flowers

983
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 4: is like an all time special player. I mean, granted

984
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: USF has existed for like fourteen years, but he has

985
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: been ridiculous, so they're gonna miss him. But yeah, they're

986
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: gonna be really good. They're really well coached. And that

987
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: brings us to Temple.

988
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk.

989
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: About the real story of the AAC East if we could.

990
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm ready.

991
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 3: Temple has a middle linebacker in Philly by the name

992
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: of Sean Bradley.

993
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 4: I am so happy.

994
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: How does this happen? How did nobody tell us?

995
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: Oh, God, owls, this is great.

996
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff Collins, in what year one finishes the season

997
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 4: strongly when four or five including their bowl game, could

998
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: have been five of six, they lose an overtime to

999
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: Army Raichweil. Armstead is still there and should have a

1000
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: nice year for Temple on the ground, and there's no

1001
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 4: reason to me that, and I can pull up Temple schedule.

1002
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: I won't make any grand proclamations, but I think in

1003
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 4: year two this Temple defense under Jeff Collins is going

1004
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: to become pretty scary. They've recruited well enough, let's see Villanova, Buffalo,

1005
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 4: possibly Buffalo. They go to Maryland, which tricky, but it's

1006
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: still Maryland and it's week three, so all of their

1007
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 4: quarterbacks might be hurt by then.

1008
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: To Navy too.

1009
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: It's a tough schedule. It's a tough schedule. I think

1010
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 4: Temple can win seven or eight games and improve.

1011
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: So do you think that Sean Bradley was recruited to Temple?

1012
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 4: Oh, poor guy, because he doesn't even know who the real,

1013
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: the real, the older Sean.

1014
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Brady because his name was Sean Bradley.

1015
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: Do you think that's a reason to bring him to

1016
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: Philly because his name is Sean Bradley.

1017
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Philly fans could be tricked, especially when drunk.

1018
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: Damn, that's unfortunate. And he's pretty good.

1019
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: He is pretty good. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

1020
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: That's all I have.

1021
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: So essentially, the American East has three teams that are

1022
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 4: decent at least, if not fun and pretty good. There's

1023
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 4: not much to expect from especially ECU. Yukon loses Rehet

1024
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 4: lashly to. I believe SMU. He's a new offensive coordinator

1025
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 4: there with what's his face from cal Dykes. So I'm

1026
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 4: hitting a wall tie as it comes to my enthusiasm

1027
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 4: for the AAC. But you have a division with UCF

1028
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: and USF.

1029
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.

1030
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 4: It's going to be good, a lot of fun cross

1031
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 4: divisional matchups in the American worth watching. As it was

1032
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,480
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1033
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:45,200
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1034
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,480
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