WEBVTT - Week 7 NFL Best Bets with Ben Solak (Ep 225)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome on into the Betting Pros Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time for Week seven. We can wait no longer.

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<v Speaker 1>We have NFL games to get back to this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and here to break them all down for us. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, the Oracle himself, Matt Friedman joins me and

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<v Speaker 1>today helping us break down the entire Week seven slater,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least our favorite games of it, none other than

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Solac of The Ringer. Ben, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing today? Wow? I appreciate charm me falls.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you you coming on as well and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>some time and knowledge with us here because we have

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<v Speaker 1>some great games to get to. This is a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting slate in my opinion, is there so many games.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel as yucky as last week slate did,

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<v Speaker 1>where you were kind of holding your nose to make

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<v Speaker 1>some of these bets like Panthers plus ten and a half, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we've got some decent spreads. We've got some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty evenly matched games too to talk about. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start that off with you, Matt. The Ravens are six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half points favorites versus the Browns in this

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<v Speaker 1>divisional matchup here, and that number still six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half here, it was six. It's been floating around in

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<v Speaker 1>that six to six and a half range. Hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 1>to seven all week. But are you going with the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns or are you taking the Ravens and laying the

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<v Speaker 1>points at home?

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<v Speaker 3>Very much on the Ravens at this point, Kevin Stefanski

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<v Speaker 3>is two and eleven against the spread in division I

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<v Speaker 3>mean horrible against people who know him, and then specifically

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<v Speaker 3>against John Harbaugh. Zero to four against the spread for

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Stefanski, So the historical trends don't look good for

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<v Speaker 3>him there, and I mean really it comes down for

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<v Speaker 3>me this Ravens rush offense against the Browns run defense.

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<v Speaker 3>The Ravens have a top three run offense in rush EPOA, EPOA,

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<v Speaker 3>rush DVOA, and the Browns are bottom three in both

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<v Speaker 3>of those metrics. And in our Fantasy pros you know,

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<v Speaker 3>power rankings. The Ravens, especially now they have left tackled

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<v Speaker 3>Ronnie Stanley healthy, they have been the eighth best offensive

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<v Speaker 3>line and we have the Browns with the eighth word

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<v Speaker 3>defensive line. Number one running back JK. Dobbins is uncertain,

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<v Speaker 3>but I really don't think that matters all that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Like backup running back Kenyan Drake looked pretty good last week.

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<v Speaker 3>They have Justice Hill returning, so I think they will

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<v Speaker 3>be fine in the backfield. And then, of course, like

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar Jackson is the ultimate cheat code as the running quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Ravens bat against the run, I mean, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>the Browns bad against the run anyway, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>know they're significantly injured on that side of the ball

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<v Speaker 3>to no Chase Wino, which Steven Weatherly, no Anthony Walker,

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<v Speaker 3>Jadevian Clowney might be out, Dion Jones he might be

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<v Speaker 3>able to return for this game, but maybe not, and

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<v Speaker 3>if he does, it's still his first game within a

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<v Speaker 3>new defense, so I don't think it looks good for them.

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<v Speaker 3>And if a home team can control the clock with

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<v Speaker 3>the ground game, it has the ability to pile on

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<v Speaker 3>the points. So I think that's what the Ravens are

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm completely with you on this one, but Ben, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think here? Any dissension from that's take?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I like Ravens.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm worried about mar Andrews not practicing. He missed the

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<v Speaker 4>second straight practice this week, and I think the Ravens

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<v Speaker 4>are already really fragile build in terms of weapons generally

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<v Speaker 4>no JK. Dobbins probably this week, and then know Andrews

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<v Speaker 4>and without Rashawn Bateman, it's like, Okay, this is just

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<v Speaker 4>a very bad offense in terms of the non Lamark pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>But the proof of the put ins in the een

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<v Speaker 4>with the running game. And yeah, the Browns rush defense

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<v Speaker 4>is not just the worst in the league, but EPA

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<v Speaker 4>for play it's twice as bad as the thirtieth defense.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like multiple standard deviations worse than your average

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<v Speaker 4>run defense in the league. And so the Ravens scheme

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<v Speaker 4>should make this happen. And you also like, I think

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<v Speaker 4>the Ravens. If you like the Ravens, you like them

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<v Speaker 4>on the line now because they tend to be really

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<v Speaker 4>good through the first three quarters. Then get things away late.

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<v Speaker 4>If you like the Browns, wait, the Raves are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>get a lead and then just hit it live and

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<v Speaker 4>then you can kind of catch a better number when

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<v Speaker 4>the Ravens inevitably failed or in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm a little bit hopeful that Rashaan Bateman

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<v Speaker 3>will play in this game, because he did practice on

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<v Speaker 3>a limited basis on Wednesday, so better than the dnps

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<v Speaker 3>that we had last week. So you know, continue to

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<v Speaker 3>monitor him throughout the week because at least if Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Andrews is out, if Bateman is in, that helps at least,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of calm the nerves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hopeful for Bateman to play as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he will. If he's already practicing. I think they're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nudge him a little bit and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you give it a go, especially if Mark's banged up.

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<v Speaker 1>This could be a really big game for him if

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back for it. But another really big game

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<v Speaker 1>on the docket this week, the Jets and the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>here and kuys. I cannot believe it. Four and two

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<v Speaker 1>are the New York Jets right now. If they win

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<v Speaker 1>this game, I'm officially on the bandwagon of this team

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<v Speaker 1>can make the playoffs. You look at that second half schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>All they need to do is pick off one of

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<v Speaker 1>the next three, because they got the Broncos, then the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Bills. If they can pick this game off,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go into your bye week at five and three,

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<v Speaker 1>come back out on the other side with an easy

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Schedule. The Bills are the only team with

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<v Speaker 1>a winning record on it, I think right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is also the spot now people are starting to

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<v Speaker 1>say the same thing, and this is where the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>like to drink the kool aid and then come out

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<v Speaker 1>with just an absolutely abysmal performance against a team that

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<v Speaker 1>they should be beating. And I feel like that's the

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos right now. This game open two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>or three, depending on your shot. But then Monday Night

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<v Speaker 1>happened and the Broncos have been bet all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to just a one point favorite. Right now, then

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<v Speaker 1>where are you going in this one? Is it Broncos country?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's ride?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it never has been, inever will be. So I

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<v Speaker 4>like the Jets in this one. I liked him at two,

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<v Speaker 4>I still like him at one. I think that this

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<v Speaker 4>is I may just be about to pick them, especially

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<v Speaker 4>with the uncertainty of quarterback, which I.

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<v Speaker 2>Jokingly said of the pre show. I definitely like it

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<v Speaker 2>if Russ is playing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure I like it if the backup's playing.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's a little bit true if if Brett Rippin

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<v Speaker 4>plays this game. Because Russ is questionable coming in, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a chance that this offense looks better because Russ has

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<v Speaker 4>been the major limiting factor in this offense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no choice about them.

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<v Speaker 4>There's other problems, but Russ is if you're ranking the factors,

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<v Speaker 4>Russ has been number one.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you do you know, like.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, all right, I get to fade a backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh maybe not like it's a weird situation for Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>But what the Jets do that I like is they

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<v Speaker 4>run the football extremely well. They've had a carousel on

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<v Speaker 4>the offensive line yet still somehow scraped together in a

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<v Speaker 4>good unit.

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<v Speaker 2>The third and rush.

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<v Speaker 4>ePaper player over the last three weeks, Reese Hall was

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<v Speaker 4>like all that in a bag of chips.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have this two running back set with Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it works really well for them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough to defend because multiple guys who can take

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<v Speaker 4>a handoff, you can go in jet motion. They're on

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<v Speaker 4>the reverses, they're on the gadget plays. It's a nice

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<v Speaker 4>little offense that Mike Belfore has going. And then they

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<v Speaker 4>have the weapons to win the passing game if they

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<v Speaker 4>need to. They haven't really used Zach Wilson for the

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<v Speaker 4>last couple weeks, and that's probably better for where Zach

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<v Speaker 4>is in his development. But they have Garrett Wilson, and

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<v Speaker 4>they have Elijah Moore assuming he's happy and wants to

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<v Speaker 4>play football.

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<v Speaker 2>They have Corey Davis. They can win on their one

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<v Speaker 2>on one.

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<v Speaker 4>So this offense has a formula that works that I

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<v Speaker 4>tend to trust enough getting points against the Denver team

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<v Speaker 4>that to me isn't going to score more than like

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen seventeen. Denver defense really really really good. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you're missing how there it is. If you're missing this game,

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<v Speaker 4>you're missing it on I think like defensive stops on

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<v Speaker 4>turnovers on short fields for the Broncos because this Jets

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<v Speaker 4>defensive line, it's gonna read some havoc.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter who's playing quarterback back there. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>it a plus money. It's a weird one though, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>Away and I'm playing you, I'm finally in. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>them last week against the Packers beas that was more

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<v Speaker 1>so a take on the Packers just last couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of weeks w on seven point lines. Very beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't keep giving that to us. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep taking it. But now this one, this is that

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<v Speaker 1>spot where I'm like Oh, they're gonna come out and

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<v Speaker 1>break my heart now. But no, I'm believing I'm ready

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<v Speaker 1>to get hurt again by this team. Matt, what about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you riding with the Jets or are you going

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<v Speaker 1>with Russell Wilson and the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Sadly, very sadly, I bet the Broncos on the look Ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I hate myself. I just absolutely hate myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I for like, and now I saw that that commercial,

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<v Speaker 3>the second commercial with the Danger Witch, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't for the rest of the year. I am not

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<v Speaker 3>betting on Russell Wilson. I'm just I'm totally done, and

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<v Speaker 3>I might flip where I just start betting against him, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on the setup. But this defense with the Jets,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really impressed with them. You know, I think they've

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<v Speaker 3>got two really good cover corners. Sauce Gardner has looked

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<v Speaker 3>as good as we've seen any quarterback, like shades of

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<v Speaker 3>like Marshawn Lattimore's rookie season, and honestly maybe even better

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<v Speaker 3>than that, Like he has been amazing. So I'm impressed

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<v Speaker 3>with the defense. And it has been said like that

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<v Speaker 3>running game has really gotten going for the Jets, whose

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line woes, they've managed to bandage up pretty nicely.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me, if I hadn't bet, it would probably

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<v Speaker 3>be a stay away. But yeah, I mean I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very much not on the Broncos at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, talking about that offensive line real quick, Elijah

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<v Speaker 1>Vera Tucker is having one of the best seasons that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen out of alignment in a long time. Like that,

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<v Speaker 1>they have moved that guy for as much of the

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<v Speaker 1>injury woes as Mackay Beckton has had, they have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to move Vera Tucker. Both guard spots now play

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle. He's playing everywhere on this line. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Larry Allen, like back in the day with

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys, which of course I'm gonna bring it back

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<v Speaker 3>to the Cowboys, the nineties Cowboys with an offensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I mean, Larry Allen was like the dude

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<v Speaker 3>who could play all over that offensive line, and like

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<v Speaker 3>Elijah Vera Tucker, like it feels like he's got that capability.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know he's in theory a guard, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think he actually has some like real tackle potential.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Jets need all the help that they can

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<v Speaker 1>get right now. As the line still gets healthy and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, the danger Witch commercial. Have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>the video of it where someone put Russ and his

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<v Speaker 1>audio over the Joker in the scene where he crashes

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<v Speaker 1>the party in the dark night. It fits way too perfectly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really unsettling because you're like, oh, this, this fits

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<v Speaker 1>like he could have been the Joker in this movie easily.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sad, but hey, you know, good news for the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>At least it's not like you're tied up to a

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<v Speaker 1>massive contract and blew a tremendous amount of draft capital

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<v Speaker 1>to bring him in, so you're you're able to move

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<v Speaker 1>on without much pain there. As we move on to

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<v Speaker 1>the next game on the slate here, speaking of your Cowboys, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions come to town and this poor Lions team, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't catch a break. One of the best offenses

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<v Speaker 1>in football right now. The defense is terrible. They're getting

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<v Speaker 1>seven here versus the Cowboys and they still have a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendously awful record.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, Tom, you know, it was the bane

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<v Speaker 3>of my existence last year to bet against my Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 3>like I wouldn't be able to celebrate them winning because

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<v Speaker 3>I would just be losing money as it was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm going back to it. I'm betting against the

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys in the spot, and it's I mean, I'm impressed

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<v Speaker 3>with the Lions, even though they are losing games and

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<v Speaker 3>their defense has been absolutely horrible. On offense, they've been

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<v Speaker 3>good and you know, Dan Campbell five and one against

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<v Speaker 3>the spread versus teams with winning records at the time

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<v Speaker 3>of the game, and you know, just like cover heroes,

0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.320
<v Speaker 3>the Lions have been in the Dan Campbell era. So

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<v Speaker 3>I do like them in this spot. I do like

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<v Speaker 3>the way they match up. I like that they're coming

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<v Speaker 3>off of the buy so they've had time to prepare,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's for me this offensive line against

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys defensive line. Like, Okay, last year, I thought

0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys defense was fraudulent. They had a really unstable

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<v Speaker 3>league high twenty six interceptions like that was clearly not

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<v Speaker 3>something that could be sustained year over year, and they

0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.160
<v Speaker 3>allowed the twelfth most yards per play. I thought that's

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<v Speaker 3>the offense, sorry, the defense that they really were. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this year they've been They've been legitimate, right, like,

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<v Speaker 3>not as opportunistic, but number one in sacks, number two

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<v Speaker 3>in quarterback hits, number three in yards per play allowed,

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<v Speaker 3>Like they've got a really strong group of edge rushers, Parsons,

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<v Speaker 3>DeMarcus Lawrence, Doran's armstrong, Dante Fowler, like Faler is actually

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<v Speaker 3>like he was a bus back in the day now

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<v Speaker 3>he actually on this defensive line is looking really good.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cowboys number one and adjusted sack rate. But that

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<v Speaker 3>Lions offensive line, if it's not the best in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's top three. I personally have it ranked

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<v Speaker 3>as the number one offensive line. Like they are number

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<v Speaker 3>one in adjusted ZACH rate. They are doing a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 3>job of protecting Jared Goff to where he has actually

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<v Speaker 3>looked like a competent quarterback once again this year. And

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<v Speaker 3>then in terms of the running game, like they've got

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<v Speaker 3>it their top five in rush EPA, rush DVOA, adjusted lineyards,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Cowboys are outside of the top ten and

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<v Speaker 3>defensively in all of those metrics. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a game where the Lions are going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to run the ball against the Cowboys. They're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to protect Jared Goff or protect him more

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<v Speaker 3>than the typical offensive line has been able to do

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<v Speaker 3>when facing the Cowboys, and I think that means seven

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<v Speaker 3>points is too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this offense feels like they can move the football.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the Lions, it's the defense that's giving you problems.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, Dak Prescott might be back for this Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Prescott's playing. I think seven is the correct line.

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<v Speaker 4>And then Prescott said today that he's going to start,

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<v Speaker 4>And usually when players say they're going to start, like,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, that's probably true.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a chance that's not, but the starting quarterback is

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing for me is if I like Lions plus seven,

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<v Speaker 4>which I do. I implied like the over, and it's been

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<v Speaker 4>a weirdier for overs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been tough as a man who likes the bet overs.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand forty and a half is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>bigger numbers are going to see on the lines this week.

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<v Speaker 4>But if this game stays within seven, it's because the

0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Lions offense is able to keep pace. We expect this

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<v Speaker 4>defense to give up points no matter what, right, And

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<v Speaker 4>so I do like Lions plus seven. I like being

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<v Speaker 4>able to build it into the over as well, and

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<v Speaker 4>see if I can, like teaze down the line and

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<v Speaker 4>get a little bit more space in that just because

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<v Speaker 4>Detroit's offense can be much more volatile than it appears because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of how often they go for it on fourth down, right.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're putting out yards or play, they're putting out

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<v Speaker 4>yards per drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It look like they're going to cover.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in terms of they have like no points

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<v Speaker 4>against the Patriots because they over five on fourth downs, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So that aggression makes them cover heroes, like Matt was saying,

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<v Speaker 4>but sometimes it can kill you. And so if we're

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<v Speaker 4>expecting that Lion's offense to keep it close, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think we're looking at like a fifty plus point total.

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<v Speaker 4>Both these teams can run it well, but they run

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<v Speaker 4>it with a good pace of play and the Gopher

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<v Speaker 4>explosives to go over play action pass, so you're not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna see the time run off the clock too quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Lions. I also like the over if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're on the Lions side.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes a lot. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic offense and an atrocious defense. That's a recipe

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<v Speaker 1>for overs right there, especially in a game like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Your biggest hope is that the Cowboys defense can't totally

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<v Speaker 1>stifle the Lions and they get you at least a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit towards that over. But I think that's pretty reasonable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what this

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<v Speaker 4>offense look like looks like with Dak back because they

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<v Speaker 4>did so many good, responsible, smart offensive team building things.

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<v Speaker 2>With rush, early down, play action, you're going to rot

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<v Speaker 2>to your backs.

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<v Speaker 4>When they play Prescott, they tend to be like, go

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<v Speaker 4>be an adult, and they don't do any of this helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff, and it would be frustrating if that's the case. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the play calling definitely takes a step back there.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of teams taking a step back, the Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears have taken a step back into about nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>three when it comes to the way that they play

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<v Speaker 1>offense this season. They're going up against the Patriots this

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<v Speaker 1>week on Monday Night because we just can't get enough

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<v Speaker 1>of these great primetime matchups.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>The total in this game, Ben is thirty nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Right now, that's so astronomically low. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>really bet the under. Are you looking at the over?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm betting the under. No, I'm absolutely betting out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Belichick spent about seven minutes during its press conference

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<v Speaker 4>talking about how good the Bears are, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick's to kiss of death.

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<v Speaker 4>When Bill Belichick does that, it means you're you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to total eighty yards. It means you're gonna have a horrible,

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<v Speaker 4>horrible day. Bill's really good at talking positively about teams

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<v Speaker 4>that he is confident he is a beat on. And

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<v Speaker 4>the thing about the Bears, and the Bears are so

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<v Speaker 4>siloed on offense. This Belichick's better than anybody else for

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<v Speaker 4>as long as he's been a coach. You're taking away

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<v Speaker 4>with you do best. And the Bears are about two

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<v Speaker 4>pitches right. The Bears have our split zone outside of

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<v Speaker 4>on running game, our boot action off of it all,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't drop back, they can't run anything else right,

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<v Speaker 4>and they have no variety.

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<v Speaker 2>In the running game. They have to live in that world.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Justin Field's gonna get one a couple scrambles, He's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna rip off a couple of a couple of big

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<v Speaker 2>chunks on third downs.

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<v Speaker 4>But you guys, a great athlete other than that, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't gonna be like the Vikings game where the

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<v Speaker 4>Bears walk out in the second in the second half,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were like, you know, yeah, run our stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden they put twenty points on

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<v Speaker 4>the board. Because the Vikings just have simple defense. No

0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.680
<v Speaker 4>Belichick takes way what you do well. So I think

0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.400
<v Speaker 4>the Bears are gonna have a really tough time.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving the ball on offense.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when the Patriots have the ball, they're second

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<v Speaker 4>in the league right now in terms of pace per

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<v Speaker 4>play on the slow side. The Titans are the slowest

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of the second suscember play, and then the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>Are right there with Bailey Zappi at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been more under centered, they've been more run oriented,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they go to their play ash and pass.

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<v Speaker 4>The only way they get explosives if it is if

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<v Speaker 4>it's your oars after the catch, And this Matt Eberflutz

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<v Speaker 4>defense is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Play drop zone, play on top of guys, don't wait

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<v Speaker 2>guys back for the.

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<v Speaker 4>Catch, hustle up, rally up, and tackle. So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>see the Patriots struggle to get explosives. They're gonna run,

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.200
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna eat a ton o'clock, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get on top of the Bears. And the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna struggle score. So do I love betting a

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<v Speaker 4>total under when it starts with a three? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I see a way that either one of these

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<v Speaker 2>teams gets over twenty?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in on a nice prime time thirteen to sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>stinker and I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a thousand percent. What's about to happen in

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<v Speaker 1>this game? You just know, because for some reason we

0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 1>were insistent upon putting the absolute trash of the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>in prime time here, Matt, do you have any different

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<v Speaker 1>dissenting opinion on that one?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have this projected pretty close to the total.

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<v Speaker 3>It's slightly to the over, but like I promise you,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not betting the over in this spot. I'm probably

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<v Speaker 3>staying away from the total. But you know what been

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<v Speaker 3>said there. I think the number you gave was like

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen to thirteen. Like that does make me think, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's not that I want to bet on the Bears, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do think that if you are to bet

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<v Speaker 3>on the side, eight points is a lot in exactly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and a game with a low total and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>backup quarterback running oriented teams, you know, like eight, I

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<v Speaker 3>am on, I'm on the Bears in that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it makes sense in order for I don't

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like laying a ton of points with a team I'm

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.280
<v Speaker 1>not confident in scoring, and I'm really not confident in

0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots getting the eight points they need to cover

0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.160
<v Speaker 1>in this game. This could end six nothing pretty easily here.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only dilemma that I'd have. It's the same

0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:22.480
<v Speaker 1>reason why I didn't like the Packers when they were

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<v Speaker 1>laying like the ten and a half numbers, because you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't trust the offense. So I definitely see where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going here. This is a stay away from me

0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.000
<v Speaker 1>until Monday night, when I bet into the closing line

0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like an idiot, because I just want to have some

0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:37.080
<v Speaker 1>reasonally care about this game. But I'll bet the under

0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.679
<v Speaker 1>in that one so I don't have to root for

0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:43.120
<v Speaker 1>these terrible offenses. But Matt, the Giants and the Jaguars.

0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of terrible, yeah, really, for the longest time, that's

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>what these two teams were. And yet all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. The Jags. Yeah, they've slid a couple

0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of weeks now after that hot start, But the Giants,

0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.520
<v Speaker 1>they seem legit. Five and one here they're getting three

0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.159
<v Speaker 1>points they head down to Jacksonville. Are you going with

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, now the official name of Matt Dable

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of Brian Dable.

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's that's fair well earned, by the way. Yeah,

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 3>I have a little bit of a sickness whenever Daniel

0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Jones is a road underdog, I bet on him. You know,

0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.120
<v Speaker 3>that's just it's something, it's something that I do. He's

0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.320
<v Speaker 3>thirteen and six against the spread on the road, twenty

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.119
<v Speaker 3>one and thirteen as an underdog, twelve and four against

0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.879
<v Speaker 3>the spread as a road underdog. There's just like something

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 3>about the style of play. I don't know. I haven't

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.119
<v Speaker 3>been able to like identify why it is that he

0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 3>does well in the spot, but historically he has done well,

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and I like the matchup, So you're not gonna need

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.199
<v Speaker 3>to twist my arm too much for betting into this.

0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 3>It's Saquon Barkley against the Jags rush defense. That's when

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:48.520
<v Speaker 3>it comes out to, like, we all know what the

0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Giants want to do in this game. They want to

0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 3>run the ball, and they run more than they pass

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.080
<v Speaker 3>a fifty two percent rush rate. You know, it's hard

0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 3>to do that in today's NFL, But that's what you

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<v Speaker 3>do when you have Daniel Jones a quarterback and squ

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<v Speaker 3>as your running back. He leads the league with one

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.919
<v Speaker 3>hundred and nineteen carries. And I think this backfield, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as reliant as it is on Barkley, like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>top three backfield because he's just playing at an elite

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.800
<v Speaker 3>level right now. And I think he has a significant

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 3>edge over the Jags defensive line in the line backing unit.

0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.400
<v Speaker 3>And as mediocre as the Giants have been on offense,

0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, like number eighteen in success rate, number twenty

0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 3>one in yards per play, they've actually been pretty good

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>running the ball. They're number nine in rush EPA per

0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 3>play in their run offense. The Jags run defense has

0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 3>just been mediocre, number seventeen in rush EPA. So I

0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 3>see this as leaning towards the Giants and how they

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.639
<v Speaker 3>want to play the game. And Barkley, he has a

0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 3>shoulder injury, but he practiced on Wednesday, So he's playing

0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Andrew Thomas and with an elbow injury, but he practiced.

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.400
<v Speaker 3>He's playing, same with John Feliciano. So those guys are

0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 3>dealing with injuries, but they're all gonna play. And if

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.960
<v Speaker 3>we look at the quarterbacks in this game, Like, Okay,

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Jones, I just I don't think he's that good.

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.120
<v Speaker 3>That said, is there really, at this stage of their

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 3>careers that much of a difference between Daniel Jones and

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Trevor Lawrence? Like I know that there is, but like,

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 3>statistically there's really not. Like they are right next to

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 3>each other. They're eleven and twelve and composite EPA and

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 3>completion percentage over expectation their numbers thirteen and fourteen in

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 3>ESPN QBR. Like they're comparable enough within the confines of

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 3>what they're supposed to do within their offenses. And I

0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.639
<v Speaker 3>don't see the Jags as having a home field advantage

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.480
<v Speaker 3>of three points. I think these two teams are pretty even.

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going with the Giants because I think Barkley

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 3>is going to be able to run effectively enough to

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:48.200
<v Speaker 3>give them a good chance to cover Ben.

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<v Speaker 1>Any thoughts here, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Love it if I know fully thought. Dacossi isn't point

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 4>bully thought. Kossi is the nose for the Jaguars. He

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.159
<v Speaker 4>is out starting at the Eagles game, where I think

0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.200
<v Speaker 4>I can cuss, and then the moment he went out

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Eagles started running the ball with im community and then

0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 4>they played Houston the next week. He's out Texans are

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:04.879
<v Speaker 4>running the football then to get the Colts to the

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Colstone count because they were playing Deon Jackson and their

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 4>tire lions terrible. They have to throw the ball fifty

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 4>eight times, but find a posse's he only knows they

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.920
<v Speaker 4>got in that front and Mike Caldos the DC there,

0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.239
<v Speaker 4>he came from Tampa. When they go run defense, they

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 4>need to nose. They need a vitavea and they didn't

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 4>have it over the last few weeks. They're hoping to

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<v Speaker 4>get fought to Possi back for this game. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure they do if they don't. I love the spot

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 4>for Barkleys rushing totals, and I like the spot for

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants because that's that's the one matchup they have

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<v Speaker 4>against the Jags. It's a weird line.

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<v Speaker 2>See a five to one team against the two and

0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>four team, and the two and four team is favorite.

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Dvoa had a great line where the Giants have been

0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 4>trailing more in terms of game cloth than any team

0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 4>is a winning record, and the Jaguars have been winning

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 4>more in terms of game clock than any team of

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 4>a losing record, so it's a topsy turvy, upside down

0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 4>start of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there's no fun of COSSE, I do.

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:51.400
<v Speaker 4>Like that Giant side in terms of the rushing totals overall, though,

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.960
<v Speaker 4>I took Daniel Jones rushing yards when it opened.

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I took a big and I expected to hit it

0:22:56.119 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty four and a half.

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Jones always runs, but especially runs when you get mancard,

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:01.480
<v Speaker 4>especially once when you get blitz.

0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what these Jag Wars want to do. They're above

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 2>average and blitz rate.

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 4>The they're heavy man coverage rate, and when you get

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 4>that sort of a look, it gives the quarterback lanes

0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 4>to escape and get a field, and so I like

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<v Speaker 4>the I like the running offense for the Giants in

0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 4>this game a lot. I wouldn't feel I don't feel

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 4>too strong about Giants plus three, but there's no flaught

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 4>to COOSTI I think it's the right side.

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<v Speaker 1>Demetrius Harvey on Twitter. He's a reporter Jags reporter for

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<v Speaker 1>Jacks dot Com. He says head coach Doug Peterson says

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<v Speaker 1>that fully fought a Cosi day to day in quotes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he'll be at practice today which was yesterday and

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>he was hopeful to have him back this week. And

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:39.879
<v Speaker 1>also here an interesting stat Jags winning percentage when Photocosi

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 1>plays a whole game zero point six sixty seven. His

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 1>winning percentage when they're winning percentage when he doesn't zero.

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<v Speaker 3>So I imagine he actually plays in this game because

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.040
<v Speaker 3>he did get a limited practice on Wednesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>you've got up been the Seahawks and the Chargers, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is another one. You got some good offenses here,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chargers defense has been especially disappointing for me

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season. I don't feel like they're living

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<v Speaker 1>up to what they were supposed to be. But then again,

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 1>this entire Chargers unit not really doing that right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you thinking in this game?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And that's the thing is is I preseason Chargers

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 4>pass defense begainst the Seahawks passing offense. Holy smokes, And

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 4>now we've seen the Seahawks passing offense not just succeed.

0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>But be relatively batch up proof.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously not the strongest game that they're coming offense the Cardinals,

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 4>but they never move the football.

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>It's just the inability to get into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>We just worries.

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<v Speaker 4>So I you're betting a total at at fifty and

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<v Speaker 4>a half, I do like the over you're getting below

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 4>that key number of fifty one.

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>No j C.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson.

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 4>The Chargers are changing and they're kind of the NFP

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 4>more right now. On the defense side of the ball.

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 4>Certainly know Joey Bosa will bring pressure to those rookie

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.159
<v Speaker 4>tackles have been playing. So all still got it with

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Kolil Mack. But this Chargers defense to me is a

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 4>little bit Swiss Cheez. There's some spots in it that

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 4>we didn't expect there to be, Certainly in the outside

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 4>receiver game, which is where it d came back.

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Cap and Tyl Lockett are going to be at their strongest.

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 4>On the other side of the ball, the teams that

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 4>score against the Seahawks are the teams that can run,

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 4>and we obviously you know, usually trust that Cardinals runing game,

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 4>but that Cardinals running game is very like college inspired.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 4>When teams get heavy with multiple tight ends on the field,

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 4>they get under center and they run the ball. In

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 4>terms of pro styles, they tend to have success against

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 4>the Seahawks rushing defense. That wasn't the Chargers to start

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 4>the year, but recently they've been a lot better. They're

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 4>getting the ball to Austin Academy more. They're not screwing

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 4>around as much as like the full back run wide

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 4>zone and pretend with the San.

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Francisco forty nine ers thing. They're running more power.

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 4>They're actually pulling guys, which is what they're suited to do.

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 4>So since V three they've been ninth and rush EPA

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 4>for play on offense, which we would not have expected

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:50.640
<v Speaker 4>given how they looked in the start of the season.

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 4>They were gone awful. They're taking away to Sony reps,

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.479
<v Speaker 4>have got a little bit better on the offensive line.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 4>They're calling better plays, and they're running the ball better,

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.960
<v Speaker 4>so they're gonna be able to stay ahead of the sticks,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 4>not get stuck in the third and lungs that they

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 4>can't deal with right now, and that's when I think

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>allow them to push the ball down the field.

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So I like fifty and a half as a total.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 4>I think you can get over that with two offenses

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 4>that can be aggressive of throwing the football downfield when

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 4>they get their shots and they're one on ones. They're

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 4>big receivers on the outside, but are both also gonna

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 4>be able to run the football and sustain long drives.

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Report Yeah, Ben, I have I have a follow up

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>question on this. So, looking at the total in the

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 3>look ahead market, it was fifty three and a half,

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:29.479
<v Speaker 3>which is right where I have it projected right now.

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I have it at fifty three point three. So I

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>saw that number, I'm like, yes, I'm a genius. Nailed

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 3>like nailed it where it should be the right, you know.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 3>And then it opens the early line on Sunday night

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 3>is fifty two, and then it dropped to fifty one,

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 3>and then now it's fifty and a half, and I'm like, okay,

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, there's some value here on the other side.

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know what, Like the market is telling

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 3>me something that my like original line might be wrong,

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, like it's on my instinct, Like I'm with you,

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 3>like everything you said, I agree with my projection has

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 3>it there. I think there's value to the over. The

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 3>unders have been hitting more in this season, you know,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and it's a high total. So like, how do you

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 3>reconcile the perspective like the game matchup and seeing what's

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 3>happening on the field with what we've seen in the

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 3>market since last week.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So for me coming from this, like I was

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 4>a football writer, like at an analysis before I ever

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 4>really got into betting, So I never ever came from

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 4>a modeling perspective. So a lot of the times when

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm against line movement, it's typically because there's something I

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 4>particularly like in the matchup, right where I'm like, all right,

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 4>like you know, metrics and models.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>The game might not be catching X, Y and Z.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 4>But when I watch the Seahawks offense, when I watch

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 4>the Chargers defense, whatever it is, I feel like this

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 4>is going to work well for them. And that's where

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm at with this Chargers running game against what you're

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 4>gonna get from the Seahawks run defense. The Seahawks defense

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 4>has been really, really rough to start the year, and

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 4>then they have this game against the Cardinals, usually one

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 4>of the highest powered offenses. They're generating turnovers. They changed

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 4>their front round a little bit. They were running other

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 4>fronts to start the season. They put out different stuff

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 4>against the Cardinals and they held them down. It's like,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 4>all right, maybe the Seahws are going to be a

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>little bit more of a low scoring, low total team.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 4>But when you get down to brass tacks, I think

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 4>that the Chargers are better across the board in terms

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 4>of offensive personnel. And I don't think the Seahawks are

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 4>going to keep the changes they ran against the Cardinals

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 4>against a non divisional opponent, because oftentimes you're building the

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>spoke game plans for teams are going to see twice.

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 4>You don't do that as much for teams they kind

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.280
<v Speaker 4>of are just on your schedule in a weekly basis.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 4>So I want to be surprised to the Seahawks go

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 4>back to the same old fronts they were running, you know,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 4>go back to the same old leaky run defense that

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 4>lets the Charges stay ahead of the six. And the

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 4>whole Chargers issue on offense is when they get behind

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the sticks because they don't push the ball down the field.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 4>They only run routes to the six. They drives film

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 4>watchers nuts this Joven Barney offense. So if they can

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 4>run the ball well, the offense is going to work.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 4>It's when they fall behind the six then they started

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 4>losing points and they get put in these four down positions.

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 4>I like the Chargers rush offense a lot of a

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 4>lot of Eckler overs, and that's what gives me a look.

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>At the total of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that makes a ton of sense to me.

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I like the sound of it as well. But Matt,

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I don't really like the sound of

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>link seven points on the road. Here are you gonna

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>do that with the Dolphins versus the quarterback to be determined? Steelers?

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Where are you going here? Steelers coming off that big win?

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Dolphins are at home?

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Correct me if I if I'm wrong here, If wrong,

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I would.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Be that would be me wrong. For some reason, I

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>have I have Dolphins at Steelers on my rundown.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Here, Dolphins Dolphins at home. Yeah, seven is the number.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>And I do like them in the spot like I feel,

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 3>And I would like to get Ben's thoughts on this, because,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>like Ben is, as you said, like football rider much

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>more knowledgeable about like the the intricacies of the schemes, right,

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 3>it's all may Yeah, Well, I assure you you're more

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 3>knowledgeable than I am. But you know, I'd like to

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 3>get your thoughts on on Tua in this spot because

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I think what we've seen out of Tua is real

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 3>this season, and I think if that is the case,

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 3>this line is really wrong. Like I don't want to

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>say where I had it projected, kind of given the

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 3>assumptions that I had of like, Okay, this is the

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 3>difference between Tua and the backup quarterbacks that we've seen,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 3>because it is was way higher than minus seven. So

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 3>there's a very good chance that I'm wrong, But I

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 3>think Tua is I think he's been underappreciated. So he's

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 3>coming back, right, He's been cleared, he's practicing fully. Man.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 3>The Dolphins, they've had a top ten pass offense this year,

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 3>and that was with Bridgewater and Skyler Thompson playing most

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>of the past three weeks.

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 3>And it's nothing against Bridgewater and Thompson, but they are

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 3>not Tua, who is number one this year in ESPN,

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>QBR number one and adjusted yards per attempt and number

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>two and EPA and completion percentage over expectation. Now, granted

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>that happened in only like three three and some change,

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 3>but you know, just do the head to head comparison

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 3>between Tua and Teddy Bridgewater and Skyler Thompson. Sixty nine

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>point six percent completion rate for him, fifty nine point

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>four percent completion rate for those guys, nine point two

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 3>adjusted yards per attempt for Teddy six point two, nine

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 3>point two to six point two. That is a massive

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 3>gap in adjusted yards per attempt. A seven percent touchdown

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 3>rate for Tua two point eight percent touchdown rate for

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Bridgewater and Thompson two point six percent, interception rate, three

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 3>point eight percent interception rate, and then the sack rate

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 3>five percent, sack rate for for Tua seven point eight percent.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think there's a pretty big difference between Tua

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 3>and the guys who are backing him up. And like, sure,

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 3>you can say what we've seen out of Tua this

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 3>year has more to do with the scheme, more to

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>do with the head coach, Mike McDaniel, and more to

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 3>do with the playmakers around him than with any innate

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 3>talent he has. Well, Like, that's fine, if that's the

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 3>perspective that you have, but like we've still seen him

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>do well versus other guys not do well within that system.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 3>And I'll just say, like, given everything we know about

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Tua up to this point, I think we should take

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>his outperformance this year at something close to face value.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 3>He was the number one quarterback in his recruitment class.

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>He had a come from behind off the bench championship

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 3>at Alabama against Georgia as a true freshman. He was

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>one of the best college quarterbacks we've ever seen. He

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 3>was selected number five overall, and he fell that far

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 3>only because of a catastrophic and career threatening hip injury, right,

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>and then he had I would say understandably an uneven

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>adjustment period to the NFL in his first two seasons

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>as he recovered from that injury and navigated offensive coordinator

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>incompetence and rollover in Miami.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>At least three of coordinator approach last year.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 3>No, No, imagine having more offensive coordinators than number of

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 3>seasons you've been in the league. That's that's nearly unfathomable. So, like,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 3>based on all of that information, I think it's fair

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 3>to say what we've seen out of Tua, like he's

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>probably not the best quarterback in the league, but like

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 3>the level that he has played at is something that

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 3>is like within the realm of reality for what we

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 3>should expect for him moving forward. The Dolphins offense twenty

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 3>seven point seven points per game in weeks one through three,

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.320
<v Speaker 3>sixteen points per game in weeks four through six, like

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>three to zero against the spread with Tua zero and

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 3>three and against the spread in the most three recent

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 3>recent weeks. So like, I'm just I am very much

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 3>on the idea that Tua matters more to the spread

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 3>than what has been baked into the spread at this point.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 3>So I think seven is too low. And then last

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>week the Steelers they were without four starters and secondary

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Even if all of those guys return this week, they're

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>still not going to be at full health at full health.

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 3>And of course, you know you have all pred all

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>pro edge rusher to j Watt and you know Larry

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Ogunjobi on the defensive line who also is uncertain in

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>his health. So I don't know, I know, seven is

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot, but man, I just I think that this

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 3>is a line that is is too low relative to

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 3>what we saw out of Tua in this offense in

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 3>weeks one through three.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I was surprised to say Dolphins minus even right.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be bigger.

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 4>As a man who bet Bucks minus a very heavily,

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 4>and that bet Bucks live lines also heavily.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not loving big.

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Spreads against the Steelers right now, but I was surprised

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 4>to see the size of that line. There's one point

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 4>five things that give me pause. The figure point about

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 4>Tua and what he brings to the schemers, what scheme

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>the scheme brings in is extremely well taken. You said,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe this is more about the scheme than

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 4>it has any particular talent than Tua has. That's half true, right,

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Like this is a really really good offense.

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Mike Daniel's a great designer. Like this is you know,

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>this is the offense, Gujore, This is what people are running.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 4>But if you want to run a yack oriented offense,

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.880
<v Speaker 4>you've got to have a really accurate quarterback. And for

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 4>all of his limits arm strength wise, height wise, the

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 4>ability to play out of structure, especially post hip injury,

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>all of which have been limiting factors for Tua, he

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>throws an extremely accurate football. Ball placement is so important

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 4>in yak offense. Is if you hit a guy out

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 4>of stride, still catchable, but it's on the wrong shoulders.

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Out of stride.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 4>He's tackled for a twelve yard game, you hit him

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 4>in stride, especially when it's Jalen Wattle speed or Tyree

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 4>Hill speed. We saw that one of question against Patriots gone,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 4>that's ball placement. That's why that play worked. And other

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 4>quarterbacks who made this offense successful haven't been that accurate,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 4>like Jimmy is not that accurate. Kirk is not that

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>pinpoint accurate. So Tool brings that and that helps the offense.

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 4>What was really impressive about this offense was we thought

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 4>last year when they're running all the RPO stuff, you

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 4>were like, yeah, this is what you do with an

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 4>accurate week arm quarterback. You run the RPO sow he

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 4>throws the tight windows and then whatever they got him

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 4>going deep down the field. They're not just going the

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 4>ARPBEO stuff. They're runing play action boots stuff, keep guys

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 4>to protect. And then two is being accurate fifteen yards,

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 4>twenty yards, twenty five yards. And then certainly when he

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 4>goes to the downhill stuff, it's not super accurate, but

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 4>that fifteen to twenty yard range throw him with a

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 4>lot of accuracy. That's yeah, with fifteen yards of a dot,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 4>that's unbelievable. Nobody else gets that in league, and they

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 4>don't get it with waddle and hill speed. It's great

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 4>the exchange the cost. And this is what worries me

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 4>for the Steelers game is if you're going to run

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 4>the deep play action stuff instead of the RBO stuff,

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>two has.

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 2>To hold the ball.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Two has to wait in the pocket, and as we've

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 4>seen through three weeks, two has to get hit. And

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 4>the number one thing to ask about the Dolphins right

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 4>now is how comfortable are they going to be running

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 4>the offense they ran with two of the first three

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 4>weeks of the season, given the Concussionci's taken.

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>How willing are they going to be to subject him

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 2>to hits? Because the way they play.

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Offense assumes their quarterback is going to be able to

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 4>think shots. He has to hold onto the ball for

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 4>a while. And they have a bad offensive line.

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>They try to add guys to pass protection, but there's

0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 2>alway somebody who's going to lead through.

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 4>That's the nature of this offense. So that's the one

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.800
<v Speaker 4>thing that worries made. The point five is three weeks awesome.

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 4>It's a small sample and usually about four weeks is

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 4>where I say, okay, if this can last more than

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 4>four weeks, I believe in the in the fact that

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 4>the film has been seen by defense coordinators and they

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 4>still haven't answered it. I've only got three weeks and

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 4>two of film, so I'm curious to see. Like Mike

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Tomlin tends to be really, really good in terms of

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 4>bespoke game plans, game plans to stop one certain offense.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.959
<v Speaker 2>Very interested to see what this looks like. So I pause.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not taking dove with mine seven right now, but

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it is an.

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Island game, and so you may find me tention in

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>allow you a couple of minutes before kickoff.

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:29.919
<v Speaker 2>The big question for me is the hits.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 4>If they're not willing to let it get hit the

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 4>way they were a month ago, they can't win the

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 4>offense they were running a month ago.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 2>That's what's this in jenery.

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<v Speaker 1>how about here the Falcons going up against the Bengals.

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals obviously that slow start to the season, but

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden they've been very much back in gear. Here. Meanwhile,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the Falcons the only undefeated team against the spread so

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>far this season. And it's really because they keep giving

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>us these touchdown or greater spreads. And it's six and

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a half in this game here. I as bad as

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 1>this offense looks, sometimes I can still trust them to

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>cover these numbers.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Why yeah, So that's the thing is.

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Like, offense isn't pretty in terms of like efficiency and

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 4>passing or whatever, but this is a good, cool offense.

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 4>The way the Falcons run offense is a way that

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>very few, if any teams weren't even a remotely amalagains offense.

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 4>You're not getting two full backs on the field, you know,

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 4>running pistol diamonds, you know readoption.

0:39:58.000 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Nobody else is doing this.

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean that means that it forces you to prepare

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 4>on a week, right forced you prepare in a week

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 4>for something you haven't really prepped for, even like the

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Bengals being in the division with the Ravens and kind

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 4>of sometimes seeing similar stuff still isn't that's analogous because

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 4>the Ravens are run as downhill, as physical.

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually as big a backs as what the Falcons are doing.

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 4>And this Bengals run defense has been suspect since losing

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:20.840
<v Speaker 4>DJ Reader.

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Their nose tackle into world of their run defense.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 4>They've been bottom ten and rushipa per play allowed since

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:26.800
<v Speaker 4>losing Reader.

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 2>And also they now have perhaps lost Logan Wilson.

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.480
<v Speaker 4>They've been a linebacker who they're kind of like saying

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.319
<v Speaker 4>is day to day, but also sustained a pretty major injury.

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 2>If you played in would be nuts.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:37.320
<v Speaker 4>That's the core of your run defense right there. And

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 4>if the Falcons beat you, they beat you. Run on

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 4>the football. This is a very very effective running game

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:42.439
<v Speaker 4>to third in the league right now in like Tobe

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 4>rushing yards. They're second of the last three weeks in

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Rushia paper play like, this is a trustworthy group. So

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 4>there's that big mismatch there that, to me, lets this

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 4>thing hang within a touchdown, less this thing hang within

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 4>a score.

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 3>The other.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Question mark that I have about the Bengals that really

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>brings me into this game is that the Bengals are

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 2>trying to fix this offense. Right, they kind of had

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 2>this this issue to go in her center.

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 4>They run, it doesn't work, and they go shotgun and

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 4>they get too high and whatever, and they're trying to

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 4>run this RPO.

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Game, and that's good. It's it's it's an okay solution.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not perfect.

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to run an RPO against zone blitz defenses

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 4>because zone blitz defense has changed changed the picture on

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.520
<v Speaker 4>your post snap, like all right, I'm gonna read this

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 4>one guy and all of a sudden, that guy's not

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 4>there anymore. That's what DMPs does. This is a confusion

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 4>based defense who's hard to run the RPO against. So

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 4>if they try to go RPO, you can see turnovers,

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 4>you can see mishandled snaps, you can see sacks in

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 4>the backfield, I think this Bengals offense runs into some

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 4>issues against lay the Falcons play, especially if Ajterrell is

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 4>available to a race to Mark Chase, because Trell is

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 4>that talented.

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I like the Falcons plus this point five, Give me

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Terrell healthy and I'll take it.

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Are you following it? Are you falling bent on this one? Matt?

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have I have this at five point five,

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's six and a half. I do think

0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 3>that there's value going through six, which isn't like a

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 3>huge key number, but in today's NFL, especially with lower totals,

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 3>is it's key enough. So yeah, I do think that

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 3>there's value in Alta.

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Now, one more game that I want to ask you

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 1>guys about.

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 3>Ben.

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>It's on that board there behind you, Chiefs and forty

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 1>nine ers here the Chiefs laying two and a half.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I got it when it was three because I thought

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that this number would go the opposite way, so the

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>market I missed out on the market here. But what

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 1>are you thinking in terms of this game? Because I'm

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>seeing people on Twitter. I get the Vegas values the Niners.

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I am very low on the Niners, and I feel

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 1>like this is one of those games that the Chiefs

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.600
<v Speaker 1>just role. I'm looking at some alternate spreads in this one.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love the Niners and the Niners are a

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 2>great team. I love why they play football. I don't

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>think I could I could list all of the names

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>they have on the Andrew Report on one breath like that.

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 4>That's where we're at right now, is this look at

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 4>line was one and a half and then they got

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.720
<v Speaker 4>even more banged up on their most recent game against Atlanta,

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.320
<v Speaker 4>right which we saw kind of the way that Atlanta

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I was able to run the football on this team

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 4>because the entire defensive line was in that game. Nick

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 4>both some research, Davon Kim laugh, Eric Armstead right, Samson

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 4>ebucom the Drake Jackson the USK because that's.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Just the defensive line.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>Really, really big thing that concerns me, though, is no

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 4>manual mods that he's out for the year.

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Tryvarious Ward right now is on defence.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he got a limited practice in Thursday

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 4>at Memory Service. But if you want to beat this

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Chiefs team right now, you man up on the outside.

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Because their wide receiver talent isn't what it used to be.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 4>The Niners were already weak at corner if they're bringing

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 4>Jason Barrett back for his first game this season and

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 4>then running a gid pe Tarvarius Ward out there, I'm

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 4>not confident in their ability to man off now with

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Patrick Mahomes playing quarterback.

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So you're going to try to run your quarter stuff.

0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna try to do what they always do, just

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 4>rush with four generate pressure and plays one behind. Rush

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 4>with four against Mahomes sometimes works, but usually you have

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 4>to have all your stars, and they ain't got none

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 4>of them right now.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>But horses aren't there in the bullpen. So this defense

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 2>is so, so so good. I love this defense. I

0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 2>love betting on this defense, not when most of it

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 2>is missing. It's just to me, the injury attrition is too.

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Much for this to be under I'm feeling good about

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this game. I bet at earlier at the wrong line,

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>but it is what it is. Matt, what about you?

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do have this at two and a half.

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I know I need to make adjustments

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>as we get more information on the injury reports, and

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 3>so I always make assumptions when I'm setting my early

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 3>projections about who will be injured and who won't be

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>And so I know I'm gonna need to adjust that.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 3>But one thing I will say that gives me a

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:22.320
<v Speaker 3>little bit of encouragement that we do have Jimmy Ward

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 3>who practiced limitedly on Wednesday, so his return to the

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 3>secondary is big. And we have Trent Williams who practiced

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 3>on a limited basis on Wednesday as well. So if

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Williams returns, I think that makes a pretty significant difference

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>to the offensive line. So that, you know, gives me

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of hope there for the forty nine ers.

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 3>But you know that said, I have this projected exactly

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 3>at two and a half right now, and even with

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 3>some of the adjustments I make, I don't think I'm

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 3>gonna get all that far from that line.

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm always ready to bet against Jimmy G. That's one

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>of my number one core philosophies in sports betting, and

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to do it in this spot, even though

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I am laying couple parts on the road here.

0:45:01.320 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>This is the Jimmy G spot, Like he's sixteen and

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 3>four for his career as an underdog, like.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll hopefully be talking about We'll hopefully be talking

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>about these more on Tuesday this week. But I'm not

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>putting a lot of stock in that trend. I don't

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>think that that's a big enough sample size for you

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to really be paying attention to it when you're betting

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 1>these two teams. Like, he hasn't had that long a career,

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 1>especially as a starter. And also I just still don't

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 1>think that this forty nine ers team is very good.

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna betting against him.

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>There, that's that's what it is. And tell him, look,

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 3>it's it's that you don't like the forty nine Ers.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>If Zach Wilson we're sixteen and four as an underdog

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 3>against this bread, you would love it. You would be like,

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 3>this guy's got that dog in him. We'll see.

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>I still want to see more from Zach to see

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 1>if he still has that dog in him, but I can't.

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Three things in life for certain man, death taxes, and

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy G game breaking interceptions. These are the three constants.

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's fair, that's fair. So bet the over on

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 3>his interception. Say yeah, well you first believe I am.

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I bet it every week. It's a profitable bed, I think,

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>or at least turnovers. Jimmy G turnovers. Sometimes he sneaks

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:16.800
<v Speaker 1>a fumble in there. To shake things up on you.

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>But before we let you go, here, Ben, final question here.

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>We need a survivor team for the week, and my

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>candidate the team I'm bringing up this week, I'm looking

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:29.040
<v Speaker 1>at the Raiders. I don't really have an interest in laying.

0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's a touchdown right now for them at

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>home here in Vegas against the Texans. But I can't

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>bet on the Texans, and I certainly do think that

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are good enough to win this game out right,

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 1>both teams coming off their bye week here, are you

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>taking them? Or are you giving us another option?

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 3>Here?

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Raiders are fine one if you haven't burned the Buccaneers.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 4>The the miss of this mind to pay the Buccaneers,

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 4>which I haven't used them yet. And that's what I'm

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 4>taking to my survivor gouls. The Panthers that completed one

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.880
<v Speaker 4>pass beyond the line of scrimmage against the Rams. I

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 4>know this because I bet them Panthers, and I did

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 4>not enjoy watching that game, But in it I became

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 4>very certain that the Panthers are not winning.

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Any football games anytime soon. So if you have the

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers available, still fine the Raiders. I like the Texians.

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I have had trouble baiting this year. That Jacksonville game

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 2>will bit in my memory for a while.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Matt, how about you?

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Raiders are the team that really stuck out to

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 3>me when I was looking at this. So I will

0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 3>go with you and say the Raiders.

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, guys, that is going to do it

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>for us here Ben, where can people find you? And

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 1>all the great work they're doing around the internet appreciate?

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, the Ringers were all the football stuff is

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 4>ring the NFL show, I'm.

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 2>New gambling every reading those opportions to do that and

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Anya on Twitter, Benjamins alack and we just do football.

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good.

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Time, all right for Ben, Matt the Oracle and myself. Guys,

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>best of luck this weekend and let's cash some tickets.