Speaker 1: At least.
Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And well, as we promised yesterday, we would
Speaker 3: do a mock draft today, working off the basis that
Speaker 3: we're moving forward with justin fields at the quarterback position.
Speaker 3: How does that say not a ton?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would put a slightly less emphasis on
Speaker 1: running back, but you still need one and you're not
Speaker 1: going to ignore it. Does it put a little bit
Speaker 1: more emphasis on defense for you play a little lower scoring,
Speaker 1: grind the clock a little bit, maybe a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, right, I mean, try to get teams off
Speaker 1: the field, create turnovers, create a little more splash to
Speaker 1: help the younger quarterback maybe a little bit, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like breaks ties that way. Yeah, I agree, and in either.
Speaker 1: Case, so I'm open to drafting the right quarterback though
Speaker 1: at the right price.
Speaker 3: You know. We're using, of course, as we did yesterday,
Speaker 3: the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com mock drafter, and we're picking
Speaker 3: twenty first, as is the case here, and so we're
Speaker 3: coming down to our pick here and see what happens here.
Speaker 3: Guy falling right now? They shouldn't be falling. He just went, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: well all right. So we got trade offers, as we
Speaker 3: usually do, three of them. Tampa Bay. Once again, we're
Speaker 3: not interested in Tampa Bay. You're trying to trade us
Speaker 3: your second round draft pick. No, thank you. Reject that.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia wants to give us pick thirty one, pick sixty
Speaker 3: three and the twenty twenty six fifth round draft pick
Speaker 3: for pick twenty one.
Speaker 1: Doesn't so bad. I would consider strong. Consider that, yeah,
Speaker 1: especially if we're on the fence between.
Speaker 3: Who to take more piece more picks.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could even talk him into a fourth instead
Speaker 1: of fifth.
Speaker 3: San Francisco wants to give us forty three to ninety
Speaker 3: nine and next year's second round draft pick. Really far, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's too far. We'll do that in a month. Consider
Speaker 3: the thirty first pick. But I want to see who's available,
Speaker 3: no question. So Tyler Warren who we took yesterday? There?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Jaylen Walker linebacker out of Georgia. Benjamin Morrison, cornerback at
Speaker 3: a Notre Dame. Derek Carmon defensive tackle from Oregon, Nickmari
Speaker 3: safety out of South Carolina, Josh Simmons offensive tackle from
Speaker 3: Ohio State, TYLERK. Williams defensive tackle from Ohio State, Walter
Speaker 3: Nolan defensive tackle from Ole Miss. Jonas Sivenia offensive tackle
Speaker 3: from Arizona. Jed A. Brown or Baron I should say
Speaker 3: the safety from Texas, Mike Greene, edge rusher out of Marshall,
Speaker 3: Trey Amos cornerback out of Ole Miss.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it brings up a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different angle to me in that now it's Fields not Wilson.
Speaker 1: I think Fields is more prone to throw to the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, less likely to.
Speaker 3: Throw go balls.
Speaker 1: You know, back to our tight end conversation from last
Speaker 1: year or from yesterday, would you be more apt to
Speaker 1: go for Warren if you had Fields or if you
Speaker 1: had Wilson? Like, is he more attractive to you one
Speaker 1: way or the other? Not verse out of the field,
Speaker 1: just like, would you consider a difference making tight end
Speaker 1: more so gonna run more heavier personnel, maybe throw the
Speaker 1: middle of the field more he does.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just throwing it out there, and we
Speaker 1: took him yesterday. I think you trade down.
Speaker 3: I think you trade down too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and plus would be a little difference. I take
Speaker 1: the same guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see if we can counter that and get
Speaker 3: something more les.
Speaker 1: I tried to get to turn the fifth in four.
Speaker 3: So thirty one and sixty three would give us thirty one,
Speaker 3: fifty two sixty three eighty three. I like that. Oh
Speaker 3: that's the part. I'm loving that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I turnump a seventh and try to turn a
Speaker 1: six five into a four? Always good to dump a seventh.
Speaker 3: Actually, they have picked one sixty five. I'll see if
Speaker 3: we can get that, all right, So that would be
Speaker 3: three picks for two. So I'm offering twenty one and
Speaker 3: two thirty seven for thirty one, sixty three and one
Speaker 3: sixty five instead of next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's a lot for them to give up
Speaker 1: in one draft, but we can always come back to
Speaker 1: the next year.
Speaker 3: Rough THREUTEAE. They accepted it all right.
Speaker 1: Great, it's a pretty far jumped down.
Speaker 3: They came up to take Walter Nolan.
Speaker 1: Wow, pretty good group of defense tackles. Yeah, Milton Williams
Speaker 1: a free agent. Milton Williams is a free agent. Trey
Speaker 1: Amos just went nah, that would have been a nice market.
Speaker 1: So he's a corner and people will be linked to
Speaker 1: this Steelers a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to reject both offers that we got
Speaker 3: here because they're both trading out of the first round.
Speaker 3: Guy top guys available. Derek Harmon, defensive tackle out of Oregon.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a first rounder.
Speaker 1: I don't either need to do more work on him.
Speaker 1: Like I see the allure, but the little I watched.
Speaker 3: Them, I was not blown away. Nick and Maori the
Speaker 3: safety out of South Carolina. I heard he's like six seven, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he plays a slot. He does everything, he does everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Xavier wats a safety at a Notre Dame. Somebody wants
Speaker 3: to turn into a linebacker again, Like maybe maybe they
Speaker 3: think he's a Cale Hamilton type. G Hud Campbell linebacker
Speaker 3: out of Alabama. Harold Fannon the tight end from Bowling Green,
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart edge rusher out of Texas A and m
Speaker 3: Omari and Hampton running back out of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I'd be more prone to do that now that we
Speaker 1: have extra picks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Harris, wide receiver out of Ole, Miss, Xavier Rostropo,
Speaker 3: wide receiver from Miami, Landon Jackson, Kenneth grant Is there
Speaker 3: princely human ame Alynn ed Rusher, at Ole, Miss Deontay Walker,
Speaker 3: Deane Walker, I should say Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 1: I like there's two of those noses, Walker and Grant
Speaker 1: that are still out there.
Speaker 3: I think I'd probably go with the running back Marion Hampton. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I would too. Swing for the fencer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a home run hitter that can do
Speaker 1: all that, just playmakers on offense. If we hadn't made
Speaker 1: the trade, I wouldn't just because not Eve an extra
Speaker 1: Day two pick, though, you can still go receiver, corner nose, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and fill your needs with all you know
Speaker 1: day two.
Speaker 3: But Matt, you never take running backs in the first round.
Speaker 3: They don't, and.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I'm mostly a believer in that, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they're the cherry on top.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. The thirty first pick in the draft
Speaker 3: is a little essential. Is there really any difference between
Speaker 3: taking a mari and Hampton at picked thirty one and
Speaker 3: the Browns taking Nick Chubb with the first pick of
Speaker 3: the second round five years ago? Zero except a fifth
Speaker 3: year option, right, that's only a nice berg. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: the only difference. I think you do it Mario and Hampton.
Speaker 3: You're gonna run the ball a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you have three ball carriers that are
Speaker 1: scary with fields. I mean we're talking about Field as
Speaker 1: a runner now too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's and I said I was gonna be less apt
Speaker 1: to take a running back. But he's the best player.
Speaker 3: On the board. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna pause here
Speaker 3: just for a minute. We're picked forty six. We have
Speaker 3: our first pick at pick fifty two. The top guys
Speaker 3: available Landon Jackson. I don't know if he fits the
Speaker 3: defense here. Kenneth Grant is still there, very appealing. Prince
Speaker 3: Ly you you Malaia? Yeah, I can't. That's his name,
Speaker 3: you la? Yeah, Prince, there you go, Prince Hugh oh
Speaker 3: miss arianta URSII from Minnesota, the offensive tackle, Jylen Milroe,
Speaker 3: quarterback from Alabama. J T. Twamaloa uh ed rusher out
Speaker 3: of Ohio State. Jackson Dart is there, Emery Jones, Barrett Carter,
Speaker 3: Donovan Azraku the edge rusher out of BC, Isaiah Bond,
Speaker 3: Kyle Knard, TJ. Sanders. There's some guys there I'm interested in.
Speaker 3: There's one guy in particular, and yeah, where did you pause? It.
Speaker 3: We're picked forty six. So the next team's up are Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Atlanta's not going to take him, Arizona. Arizona's not gonna
Speaker 3: take the San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much these the software does, these sites dig into it,
Speaker 1: but he's not a Shanahan type of player, right.
Speaker 3: The Bengals they're not taken out. The Seahawks, they absolutely
Speaker 3: they could Denver they're not taking. So we roll the dice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think if you lose and to end
Speaker 1: up with Grant, I'm happy. Yeah. The receiver from Texas
Speaker 1: Golden that we discussed and almost took yesterday, but we
Speaker 1: took Grant because they both shouldn't have been there. I
Speaker 1: assume he's still available.
Speaker 3: For somebody else out there that I'm interested in too.
Speaker 3: Andrew mccoub mccoub by the safety.
Speaker 1: From Texas, Okay, yeah, yeah, he makes a lot of
Speaker 1: place a slot. Yeah, that's he's just a good football player.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Branch, but he kind of has
Speaker 1: that profile to him.
Speaker 3: I think he just wait, Okay, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I mean there's enough names there that I you know.
Speaker 3: Another guy that I would have been interested in was
Speaker 3: t J. Sanders. He just went Jaylen Milroe goes to
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Nah one pick, and maybe in the real world we
Speaker 1: would have bumped over those guys.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, now Seattle wants to make a trade
Speaker 3: with us, No, thank you, guys, unless you want to
Speaker 3: give you know, if you want to give.
Speaker 1: Us Milroe, give us Gino. We already got fields.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not interested. That's okay. So Landon Jackson
Speaker 3: is still there, Kenneth Grant still there. It's a nice
Speaker 3: consolation price.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely fine. What's the best receiver or corner I
Speaker 1: guess we picked sort of soon though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have picks now at sixty three and eighty
Speaker 3: sixty three, eighty three coming up. Just grab because he's
Speaker 3: the best player on the field. He is the best
Speaker 3: player available. Yeah, looking here at wide receiver, you got
Speaker 3: Matthew Golden, Jayden Higgins, Jalen Royals, Ricky White, Torry Holton.
Speaker 3: There's some guys there, I.
Speaker 1: Think, Yeah, they'll be there are ten picks from now
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Defensively, cornerback, you're looking at Darien Porter from Iowa State. Davison, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he big your son from Ohio State, Denzel Burke from
Speaker 3: Ohio State, Dorian Strong, Daleen Everett, AZII A. Thomas. I
Speaker 3: think you take Grant, ik, you take Grant.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Plus you don't then have to pay on the open
Speaker 3: market for a big.
Speaker 1: Dude, right right, I mean Benton Fokan Jobi's here or
Speaker 1: not goes to that role. Yeah, Grant immediately in searchs
Speaker 1: there doesn't play on passing downs, you don't lead them
Speaker 1: to anyways.
Speaker 3: Now there's another guy there that I'm interested in at
Speaker 3: the defense of.
Speaker 1: This third pick or before you you didn't put the
Speaker 1: Grant pick in yet, I have not yet, so Omar
Speaker 1: Norman Lot is there from Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned mister Now he's an end these warm
Speaker 3: an end Yeah. Yeah, but Grant Grant, I think the size. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I've got pushed around a little bit
Speaker 3: in the more than a little bit in the game.
Speaker 3: Not gonna happen with Kenneth Grant on the field.
Speaker 1: It's the conference or division you play in. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: need of the D line. I think it's better for
Speaker 1: Benton too.
Speaker 3: Okay, Denzel Burke just went okay, we're up again, and
Speaker 3: New England is calling their offering pick sixty eight and
Speaker 3: next year's fourth for pick sixty three and two forty six. Yeh,
Speaker 3: that's fine. Fourth is okay, but bad. I like future
Speaker 3: some bad teams. Yeah, but I'm going to reject all that.
Speaker 3: We're going to make the pick because it's better. So
Speaker 3: Omar Norman lot is still there.
Speaker 1: We'll be making strengths, extreme strengths and just having the
Speaker 1: best D line ever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like none, I'll tell you none of the cornerbacks, like
Speaker 3: the receivers are what the appeal to me, that the
Speaker 3: receiver would be something that I had to look at.
Speaker 3: Matthew Golden is still there. Jayden Higgins is still there.
Speaker 3: Jalen Royals is still there. I like Royals, I don't
Speaker 3: like me some Jalen Royle. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I prefer Golden though, and I'm flat out pillaging this
Speaker 1: form mel kiper I was listening to their podcast this morning,
Speaker 1: I Guess tomorrow his mock's coming out.
Speaker 3: And he basically said he absolutely thinks Golden's.
Speaker 1: Going in the first round, that he's a hot commodity
Speaker 1: right now. I was also listening to mcshay's podcast, said
Speaker 1: Golden's the names no one's talking about as a mid
Speaker 1: to late first round pick.
Speaker 3: See, I think Jalen Royals could go if he works
Speaker 3: out the combine and runs a fourth three. He's a
Speaker 3: run the fourth three? Yeah, how big is he? Like
Speaker 3: six to one, he's gone. He's a track guy, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but he catches everything. And when I say he's a
Speaker 3: track guy, he also high jumped six to four. I
Speaker 3: know this is a guy who's all kinds of athleticism.
Speaker 1: How long do we have to our next pick?
Speaker 3: We go again at eighty three?
Speaker 1: Either school with me?
Speaker 3: We probably need a receiver, I would.
Speaker 1: Say, I I meant either receivers. Yeah. Now the next
Speaker 1: one could be whatever you want. I mean, if if
Speaker 1: you get if they're the best defensive lineman's on the board, Tennessee, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. Yeah. I mean again, you probably
Speaker 1: have signed a corner at this point.
Speaker 3: Let me just look to here at the mccuba is
Speaker 3: still there as well. The safety is available. Kevin Winston
Speaker 3: Junior from Penn State. He's a highly tired guy. He
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's played enough that I want to.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't pick him over the receivers. Mccouba is still there,
Speaker 3: Jalen Reed. The other safety from Penn State is there,
Speaker 3: Rod Moore, Sebastian cast Malachi Moore, Lathan Ransom.
Speaker 1: Suddenly there's some defensive backs that have a chance to
Speaker 1: fall Ransom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what receiver do you prefer? I like him both.
Speaker 3: I don't know how realistic it is that Golden is
Speaker 3: going to be there at sixty three, right.
Speaker 1: I think if it's Wilson, you'd definitely take the Speedster.
Speaker 1: If it fields, I don't think it matters either way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll take Golden either school. Yeah, take Golden. Okay,
Speaker 3: now we got to start thinking running back here too.
Speaker 3: At some point we took one in the first round.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what am I thinking?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We're good. There is the biggest need.
Speaker 3: Corner, Yeah, a defensive back.
Speaker 1: Even with a trade down, though, we're not going to
Speaker 1: feel every need.
Speaker 3: That might be something that you have to fill in
Speaker 3: free agency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole nother segment. But there's six or
Speaker 1: seven names that should be twelve million to sixteen million.
Speaker 3: That I would be very interested in a free agency.
Speaker 3: I also want to see what Corey Trice can be.
Speaker 3: Is a you know, he's not a throwaway all right,
Speaker 3: we at the Minnesota's on the phone. They want to
Speaker 3: give us pick ninety seven and one thirty nine for
Speaker 3: eighty three and two forty six.
Speaker 1: I don't think trading down in the mid round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna hold jack that. Yeah, all right. Top
Speaker 3: players available regardless of position. The edge rusher out of BC. Oh,
Speaker 3: he's not going to be there. Dorian Strong, the cornerback
Speaker 3: out of Virginia Tech. It's a big guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's appealing.
Speaker 3: David Walker, edg rusher out of Central Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Ed rushers are great and they're gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of them. I can't imagine using a pick on one.
Speaker 3: Ashton Jilot the edge rusher out of Louisville. Holland Pierce
Speaker 3: offensive tackle from Rutgers. DJ Giddens running back from k State.
Speaker 3: Elijah or Rojo tight end from Miami. It's a past
Speaker 3: Casch tight end. Jalen Reid safety at a Penn State.
Speaker 3: Jabbar Mohammad cornerback out of Oregon. Shamar Turner defensive tackle
Speaker 3: from Texas A and M. He's more of a nozo too, Okay,
Speaker 3: I believe I think so. I'm thinking to the right
Speaker 3: guy there. Six four to three hundred.
Speaker 1: I know they have three that are gonna be picked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys are more endish. Gray's Abel was there
Speaker 3: the offensive tackle on in North Dakota State. Will Howard interesting,
Speaker 3: we haven't taken a quarterback. What quarterbacks are there? I
Speaker 3: think Howard is the best of the group, but let
Speaker 3: me take a look here and who else is available?
Speaker 3: So Howard, Quinn, yours, Curtis Rourke, Dylan Gabriel, Kyle McCord,
Speaker 3: Brady Cook from Missouri. He's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: McCord's another one Kuyper was alluding to, is gonna go
Speaker 1: a lot higher than people think, like a round two
Speaker 1: type guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him. I know that the
Speaker 3: Ohio State fans hate them. Pure pocket passer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think if we went with Fields, I
Speaker 1: don't want up your pocket passers his backup.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with going with Will Howard.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I was also thinking the the
Speaker 1: V tech corner.
Speaker 3: He would be attractive. He's high on the list and
Speaker 3: corners are massive. He's six one five, that's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: probably get the one ninety in a year or whatever.
Speaker 3: He's never going to be huge. That would be my vote,
Speaker 3: but I don't mind the Ohio State dute either. All right,
Speaker 3: we'll take him cornerback. It is Dorian Strong in Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: Now we don't have another picked until one sixty two. Gap.
Speaker 3: We got one sixty two, one sixty five, and two
Speaker 3: twenty six. No, we have one at one twenty one.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry we didn't trade that away. It doesn't show.
Speaker 3: It shows you your next pick over to the left.
Speaker 3: It doesn't show you. Then it has your other picks
Speaker 3: remaining over on the other side.
Speaker 1: So makes you a little difficult deep tight end draft.
Speaker 1: And there could be someone of interest there. I know
Speaker 1: it's a terrible place to shop for tackles, but I
Speaker 1: love getting a developmental tackle that could be maybe your
Speaker 1: swing guy as a rookie. Another back seems crazy after
Speaker 1: you use the first round pick on one, but the
Speaker 1: seventh round I'd consider it, yeah, especially.
Speaker 3: If he's a kind can ask for you know, your
Speaker 3: first round draft pick to return kicks. Dallas is on
Speaker 3: the phone. Dallas went saw off for pich one pick
Speaker 3: one twenty one, Jerry Getaddy. That's a lot of work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, so top players available, base sholl tooton running
Speaker 3: back out of Virginia Tech. Anthony Belton, offensive tackle and
Speaker 3: c State A much.
Speaker 1: About him, But a tackle here, if he's high on
Speaker 1: the board, would be appealing to me.
Speaker 3: Lander Barton, linebacker out of Utah, film offa running back
Speaker 3: out of Clemson. Charles Grant, offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Charles Grants, that'd be great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely like that. Jordan Phillips, a defensive tackle
Speaker 3: out of Maryland.
Speaker 1: I actually have heard good things about Charles Grant. Number
Speaker 1: two is yeah, small schools. Why he's just low right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you gotta think that Mike Toma might know
Speaker 3: a little bit about the William and Merry guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, said things going off in my head like
Speaker 1: crazy with him too, because supposedly he's a really good athlete.
Speaker 1: You have you drafted tackles in the top two rounds.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could basically red.
Speaker 3: Shirt this year and maybe is a guard down the
Speaker 3: road maybe right, I don't know, I would be very appealing.
Speaker 3: I think that's appealing. Yeah. The top quarterback available is
Speaker 3: Kyle McCord.
Speaker 1: Okay, so but if he's only a pocket passer, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's the fields back up that I want.
Speaker 3: Charles Grant, Oh yeah, Charles, Charles.
Speaker 1: How happy that makes me. We're gonna line those guys
Speaker 1: up with the first rep of camp.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Grant, Grant, Yeah, he's so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those things tickle me to know, and
Speaker 1: I know, right right, but I think that's a decent
Speaker 1: picky the way, all right.
Speaker 3: So thus far then we have gotten Omarion Hampton at
Speaker 3: picked thirty one, Kenneth Grant picked fifty two, Matthew Golden
Speaker 3: picked sixty three, Dorian Strong, cornerback out of Virginia Tech
Speaker 3: at eighty three, and then Charles Grant not the guy
Speaker 3: out of the defensive tackle from Michigan, but instead the
Speaker 3: offensive tackle from William and Mary.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I like it. Big guys, slot safety, special
Speaker 1: teamer would be something to look at. Tight end I'd
Speaker 1: consider start throw quarterback doesn't sound crazy? I mean, right now,
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks are being in camp as of this
Speaker 1: draft sounds like two Adams Thompson, Robinson.
Speaker 3: Right, yeahright, Kyle mcgonaghey running back out of Rutgers, Raheem
Speaker 3: Sanders running back out of South Carolina, Jordan James, running
Speaker 3: back out of Oregon, Marcus mcbow offensive tackle from two
Speaker 3: Yaha Black defensive tackle still there. Yeah, some people think
Speaker 3: of him as the first round pick. I've seen a
Speaker 3: lot of guard stuff with him. Yeah, I haven't watched
Speaker 3: him yet. Yeah. Olie Gordon running back out of Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3: RJ RJ. Harvey running back out of UCF. Danny Stutsman,
Speaker 3: linebacker from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: See, like, if we hadn't gone running back in the
Speaker 1: first round, if we'd taken corner or whatever, a lot
Speaker 1: of these dudes are pretty appealing. Yeah, at this neighborhood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a crazy draft for those guys. Take two
Speaker 1: of them in the fifth and sixth round.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking here. Ifisian's Price Sock cornerback out of Washington. Okay,
Speaker 3: have you seen that name yet? Because he is six
Speaker 3: four one ninety point.
Speaker 1: No, we took one, but I don't care. You can
Speaker 1: never have too many. I would never.
Speaker 3: He is a definite outside cornerback.
Speaker 1: That's what they like.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking here.
Speaker 1: The defensive back here makes some sense to me of
Speaker 1: any shape we're going to get that this draft. The
Speaker 1: safety that can play.
Speaker 3: Zah Frasier's there, the cornerback from UTSA who at the
Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl that the guy we just talked about.
Speaker 1: So we took one recently, but another corner just to
Speaker 1: throw a lot to fans. He would stick.
Speaker 3: Defensive tackles again. Wouldn't bother me to double down at
Speaker 3: the episode. I don't want another nose. I want to
Speaker 3: any other huge guys. Yeah, nothing is also of interest.
Speaker 3: Nothing there that's super interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think prove it will be back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna keep four. Hayward might only be a special
Speaker 1: team or at this point.
Speaker 3: So you got Jake bringing stool, brings his own stool
Speaker 3: to the bringing the school. He's from Clemson. Gavin Bartholomew
Speaker 3: from Pitt Jalen.
Speaker 1: Comedy is a kind of a fit too. He's a
Speaker 1: tough guy in line dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Kanye's from Texas Tech. Thomas Faedon from Nebraska,
Speaker 3: Drake Dabney from TCU, Jeremy Jermaine Terry from Oregon State,
Speaker 3: Cole Taylor from West Virginia, Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame
Speaker 3: parthol Of. He is the one I know and I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have a problem with.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Bryson Nesbit from North Carolina is kind of interesting to
Speaker 3: me tight end. Yeah, Okay, last year he caught a
Speaker 3: ton of passes because well they had a good quarterback.
Speaker 3: This year now gone, Yeah, this year not so much,
Speaker 3: but more of a pass catching tight end. I think
Speaker 3: he's more the seventh round guy though.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's a name to know though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know this. I don't love any of
Speaker 3: this really, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: The best available regardless position.
Speaker 3: Regardless of position, not it's blowing your doors off. It's
Speaker 3: all running backs. Yeah, yeah, like one of take another
Speaker 3: running back by Dallas, want to trade up with it? Maybe,
Speaker 3: so maybe you take Marcus Macbow. Oh yeah, I think
Speaker 3: that's a mistake from what I've learned a little bit
Speaker 3: about him. Well, say R. J. Harvey is still there too. Again,
Speaker 3: some of those guys may fall. But Jalen Noel from
Speaker 3: a wide receiver from Iowa State. You doubled out the
Speaker 3: wide receiver position in this one.
Speaker 1: What's his profile? What's he doing?
Speaker 3: He uh has an explosive release in stride, improving route running.
Speaker 3: Should be a Day two pick in the draft. Recording
Speaker 3: of this had one thousand yards and six touchdowns this season.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't object to bringing another receiver.
Speaker 3: And another receiver to the mix. Let's do that, all right,
Speaker 3: few receivers.
Speaker 1: That's not terrible, right, traded down you get the little
Speaker 1: bonus press. So now we just have seventh rounders.
Speaker 3: We got uh yeah, we got two twenty six remaining
Speaker 3: two twenty six and two forty six remaining here. So
Speaker 3: it's gonna take us a little while or to get there.
Speaker 3: But just thing paused on me here? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: I'd consider any position at this point, but some of
Speaker 1: these face special special teams.
Speaker 3: Stands out. Oh we're up now? Did I not make
Speaker 3: that pick?
Speaker 1: I thought I did.
Speaker 3: That's bad radio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right. We won't lose any listeners over that.
Speaker 3: No, of course not h No, we're actually up again here.
Speaker 3: We must have. I didn't realize we traded for that pick.
Speaker 3: So we are up again here, and.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not real fruitful of what's No.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not a great I'm just looking here
Speaker 3: at safeties. Yuck cornerback. Well, if esian's price sock is
Speaker 3: still there, six foot four corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take me right right right?
Speaker 3: We like big corners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I practice squad it all year or whatever. But
Speaker 1: have a rookie year like Trice or something like that,
Speaker 1: you know, might be happy about the four corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean land of the giants in that cornerback room.
Speaker 3: That's what you're looking for. That's exactly their profile, right.
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of them can play the slot.
Speaker 3: Probably not, But that's to find those guys too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got Beanie Bishop for now, right, there'll be competition
Speaker 3: for him too, And there's no question in my mind. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, we're cruising down here. Now we get two
Speaker 3: picks left and pick two twenty six coming up here.
Speaker 3: I should have speeded this up a little bit.
Speaker 1: This could be running back land.
Speaker 3: I would take a second running back here to somebody
Speaker 3: that was Again, he could be smaller, he could be
Speaker 3: doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, these are guys are going to get
Speaker 1: the fifth round grades in the seventh round.
Speaker 3: But I think you know, one of the things to
Speaker 3: your point, what you want to do, if it is fields,
Speaker 3: is you want to continue to build your defense. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: keep that very strong in my mind.
Speaker 1: You need a big play defense. It doesn't can get
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, another D lineman wouldn't break my heart.
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, if there's an edge you'll like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing to shy away from me, tide linebacker.
Speaker 3: So the top guys available Glendon Miller, safety out of Maryland. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but Glenn done. You got Javari Ritzi, defensive tackle from
Speaker 3: North Carolina. I'm just looking at you. See if there's
Speaker 3: anybody that Mario Anderson junior running back at A Memphis
Speaker 3: five eight two oh six. Not much about them, but okay,
Speaker 3: I do know that the Memphis running backs have They've
Speaker 3: always done well, always done well. Here's one guy that
Speaker 3: is kind of interesting to me, and that's JJ Pegas
Speaker 3: from Ole Miss running back, no defensive tackle. Oh, he's
Speaker 3: more of a long.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I have no problem taking a big compete
Speaker 1: with like Logan Lee yep, louder Milk replacement type.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably into the Yeah, into the middle, I'd say him.
Speaker 3: Or the safety that's the top of the boarder. One
Speaker 3: of those took Vegas. We'll see about to see what
Speaker 3: happens here at the last last pick. Here we get
Speaker 3: coming up at two forty six. We're getting close here
Speaker 3: and and we're out all right. Uh, Top guys available.
Speaker 3: Aiden Huntington from Tulane defensive tackle, Tyler Battye ede rusher
Speaker 3: out of b Yu Nash Hutmasher, defensive tackle from Nebraska
Speaker 3: Lea Quin Allen, running back out of Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a good receiver, he's got I think that's
Speaker 1: a nice pick too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, there it is the Quinn Allen.
Speaker 1: No, he's he's kind of like a Tyrone Tracy type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kick return probably possibilities. Why not. I'm going with that.
Speaker 3: We had some extra picks there, we used them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we doubled down a compositions.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's corners two d line. All right. So we
Speaker 3: ended up with the Amari and Hampton running back out
Speaker 3: of North Carolina pick thirty one. At pick fifty two,
Speaker 3: we took Kenneth Grant picked sixty three, Matthew Golden, the
Speaker 3: wide receiver out of Texas. Eighty three was Dorian Strong,
Speaker 3: cornerback out of Virginia Tech. One twenty one was Charles Grant,
Speaker 3: the offensive tackle, might be a guard from William and Mary.
Speaker 3: At one sixty two, we took Jayalen Noelle, the wide
Speaker 3: receiver from Iowa State. One sixty five Ephesians price sock.
Speaker 3: I'd have to learn how to spell that one? At
Speaker 3: one sixty five, cornerback out of Washington two twenty six.
Speaker 3: We took JJ pegas defensive lineman out of Ole Miss,
Speaker 3: so we doubled down on the defensive line there. But
Speaker 3: they're different ones and edge ones and those.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then Leaquin Allen, the running back out of Syracuse
Speaker 3: at two forty six. Cool, Okay, there we go, there
Speaker 3: we go. I like the trade down. Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not bad.
Speaker 3: You get more, give me more, give me more. Absolutely, anyways,
Speaker 3: let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.
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Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt Pro Football Focus as their top seventy
Speaker 3: five players set to enter free agency list out there.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I don't know that it necessarily
Speaker 3: matches up to some of the beliefs that Steeler fans have.
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 1: I was looking through it today. I was mostly interested
Speaker 1: in what they projected for contracts, you know, in some
Speaker 1: positions that I think will be interesting to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: And there's some Steelers on there that are set to
Speaker 1: make a pretty good buck several facts. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: quite a few, and I don't think many of them
Speaker 1: will be We'll be back, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it led me to think this might be
Speaker 3: a year where you don't want to spend a ton
Speaker 3: of money in free agency unless you're signing guys who
Speaker 3: were cut by somebody.
Speaker 1: Else for com reasons.
Speaker 3: You're talking right right angle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, and no, because I do think they will
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, have a lot to spend,
Speaker 1: and their draft capital is good, not great. You want
Speaker 1: to get better, and I think free agency is more
Speaker 1: of an avenue this year than most in terms of
Speaker 1: your resources. I love the comp game, But to your point,
Speaker 1: if it's DeVante Adams versus Godwin and they want the
Speaker 1: same amount of money and Adams got cut and Godwin didn't,
Speaker 1: won't get me it right?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: I would definitely take that into consideration because on this
Speaker 3: on this list of the top seventy five. Yeah, free agents,
Speaker 3: these are the guys that are probably going to get
Speaker 3: the bigger contracts. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, are justin fields.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Obviously both quarterbacks quarterbacks are on or on
Speaker 3: seventy five. Also on this list is Naujie Harris and
Speaker 3: also I think he's gonna make eleven ish. You know,
Speaker 3: James Daniels, Yep, he graded really.
Speaker 1: Well for them. They're big James Daniels fans and Dan Moore.
Speaker 1: M h that's a pretty good power of contracts that
Speaker 1: could be leaving town now. Probably one of those quarterbacks
Speaker 1: isn't in the mix of levers the guys that are
Speaker 1: taken out, and there's also the Landon Roberts of the
Speaker 1: world and guys like that, whether you bring them back
Speaker 1: or not, they're going to add up. Mike Williams, you
Speaker 1: guys like that too. The other thing that I'd been
Speaker 1: thinking about too, and it comes back to kind of
Speaker 1: the Metcalf conversation. We started the show with some of
Speaker 1: those Steelers three seventh round picks. You could basically trade
Speaker 1: for a player that someone's going to dump, right because
Speaker 1: you have cap space and they don't.
Speaker 3: You know, like you're just flipping them. I mean, you
Speaker 3: got one year left wonder deal and you're just yeah,
Speaker 3: taking them off their hands.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, where either going to cut this guy because
Speaker 1: we're the Saints and we have no money, or you
Speaker 1: guys can eat the contract and you'll get a much
Speaker 1: better player than a seventh round pick.
Speaker 3: You just gonna have to pay whatever's left on that deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're basically trading a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick for cap space. Yeah, but you get a
Speaker 1: good player, right, And those deals happen all the time
Speaker 1: in the league. I could see the Steelers making a
Speaker 1: move or two like that. Yeah, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill for a seventh round pack, but you know,
Speaker 1: right or right, but you could get quality players. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about again I mentioned this, this is
Speaker 3: the top seventy five, and.
Speaker 1: They go pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They couple of those guys with franchise, couple won't even
Speaker 1: hit free agency to begin with. Same as always.
Speaker 3: But you know, again, I think if you can get
Speaker 3: some comp picks back, if you don't spend like crazy
Speaker 3: and these guys get good contracts out, whatever you're gonna make,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: Be nice. To pick up thirds in the future.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even a fifth, an extra fifth or whatever
Speaker 3: it may.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those things are valuable, right.
Speaker 3: I heard people somebody mentioned today Naujee Harris was a
Speaker 3: wasted draft pick by the Steelers. Gave the ball like
Speaker 3: eight thousand times. It four straight thousand yard seasons. You're
Speaker 3: gonna go and because they didn't pick up his fifty
Speaker 3: year option, you're gonna say that's a bust. That's not
Speaker 3: how this works anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, you think running backs are not We've had that conversation.
Speaker 3: This is what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: Okay, So people think he's been on Dale's mind since
Speaker 1: the first segment, and.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of what it was. This was backing
Speaker 3: his brain over there and the alarm just went off.
Speaker 1: There we go, ding ding ding.
Speaker 3: So when the comp when the I'm sorry, when the
Speaker 3: fifty year option was first a thing, yes, and players
Speaker 3: were paid. The first ten picks got the big money,
Speaker 3: and then after that everybody was slotted in and picks yeah,
Speaker 3: he picks eleven through thirty two were kind of slid
Speaker 3: the year options were new, Yeah, and they didn't make
Speaker 3: massive amounts of money. Every Body picked up the option
Speaker 3: it was very team friendly. It was very team friendly
Speaker 3: for teams to pick up the option on that fifty
Speaker 3: year if your guy was drafted outside the top ten,
Speaker 3: if your guy was drafted inside the top ten, it
Speaker 3: was not as friendly because they got comparable you know,
Speaker 3: they got the basically the transition tag in their position.
Speaker 1: And of course there's a lot of quarterbacks and tackles
Speaker 1: and hard to find positions in the top ten, so.
Speaker 3: You had to really, you know, be a star. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: With the new CBA, they changed that rule big time
Speaker 3: in a big way because if you if you do
Speaker 3: things like what you did, if you did things like
Speaker 3: make a Pro Bowl, now you're getting that transition tag.
Speaker 3: How hard to make a Pro Bowl?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's an accomplishment, don't get me wrong. Right,
Speaker 1: a lot of guys get a Pro Bowl, or if.
Speaker 3: You've been a starter, you get this. It's you're paying
Speaker 3: these guys at a much higher level now than what
Speaker 3: you would have paid them before because it just because
Speaker 3: of the fact that you drafted them in the first round. Yes,
Speaker 3: and so now not as many first round draft picks
Speaker 3: are getting that fifth your option picked up across the league.
Speaker 3: This is across the and it's maybe thirty three percent
Speaker 3: of what it's gone. It's gone way down, way down,
Speaker 3: way down in the last few years because of this
Speaker 3: new CBA. But I still hear people say, well, so
Speaker 3: it's such and such team didn't pick up his fifty
Speaker 3: year options, so they must not have liked him. No,
Speaker 3: that's not the case.
Speaker 1: It's not the case. And I also think it's a
Speaker 1: flawed system of the day you have to make that
Speaker 1: decision because the day you make that decision, you're guaranteeing
Speaker 1: them x amount whatever.
Speaker 3: The year years from now, two years from now, so
Speaker 3: you're essentially guaranteeing the final two years of their contract.
Speaker 1: Right and Nausey in particular, has been remarkablely reliable and durable.
Speaker 1: They're two of his best traits. But he's a running
Speaker 1: back that had a lot of damage. You're going to
Speaker 1: guarantee those two years when he you're giving him the
Speaker 1: ball that much.
Speaker 3: He also made the Pro Bowl after his rookie year,
Speaker 3: so he's more expensive, so you're not going to pick
Speaker 3: up that fifty year option. He would have to be
Speaker 3: one of the best backs in the league to really
Speaker 3: make that.
Speaker 1: Have to be Barkley to want to do right, right,
Speaker 1: and if he misses time, you still lose, right. I
Speaker 1: mean the guaranteed part of it that early in the
Speaker 1: process is flawed to me. I don't understand why they
Speaker 1: think that's smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe this is something that gets changed in
Speaker 3: the next CBA when they find out this doesn't work. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the whole idea, or the system is bad.
Speaker 3: It could be as well that the guys who end
Speaker 3: up getting drafted in the first round like this because
Speaker 3: they get to become free agy players like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to be the fifth year option
Speaker 1: picked up.
Speaker 3: It's not. But realistically, I mean you watch when when
Speaker 3: they're the numbers come out for this year's class, and
Speaker 3: who gets there a fifty year option picked up and
Speaker 3: who doesn't. It's going to be about a third of
Speaker 3: the first round. Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1: I think it's usually like nine to twelve guys last
Speaker 1: year or two out of thirty two.
Speaker 3: Because of the way they change the rules. But people
Speaker 3: were still looking at this like it's the old rules
Speaker 3: that were much more team friendly.
Speaker 1: That's not the case this case, right, And frankly, like
Speaker 1: who was it that traded up into the first round
Speaker 1: to take a receiver this year, Bills went from like
Speaker 1: twenty nine to thirty. Oh the Panthers to get Legett.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they almost did it. I felt like because
Speaker 1: all those receivers went together as peer solid, Lagett and
Speaker 1: Mconkee and they were all available unless they loved Lagett
Speaker 1: so much more than those other dudes that they had
Speaker 1: to have him. It makes no sense to give something up,
Speaker 1: to go up three picks just to get the fifth
Speaker 1: year option. And frankly, the Panthers are one of the
Speaker 1: dumbest teams the league, you know. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: the Bills are like, I'll gladly move down three spots.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the fifth year option. It's not
Speaker 1: as valuable as it used to be on draft days.
Speaker 3: So here here's so for example, this is the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two first round draft class. Gosh, so these are
Speaker 3: the guys who are going to have to have their
Speaker 3: options picked up this year.
Speaker 1: The decision time comes.
Speaker 3: When is the date to get I remember I hate
Speaker 3: when the date is.
Speaker 1: It's basically two years.
Speaker 3: It's mad yes, after the draft, yeah, I know, it's
Speaker 3: after the draft. So Trayvon Walker was the first overall
Speaker 3: pick in the draft, he gets a playtime The way
Speaker 3: this says, you have the basic option, the playtime option,
Speaker 3: which is based on how much you've played, if you've
Speaker 3: been a starter over I think fifty percent of the time,
Speaker 3: you get if the average third to twentieth high highest salaries. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so the playtime option is the third to twentieth highest
Speaker 3: paid salaries at their position over the last five season,
Speaker 3: provided their snap count meets seventy five percent or greater
Speaker 3: over two of their first three seasons. An average is
Speaker 3: seventy five percent or greater over all three seasons, or
Speaker 3: fifty percent or greater overall three seasons.
Speaker 1: Which I know is a little hard to follow, but
Speaker 1: that means he played a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably played over five hield right, right, right,
Speaker 3: sixteen million dollars for Trayvon Walker Aiden Hutchinson because he's
Speaker 3: made a one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Mitey Walker has not made a Pro Bowl and won't
Speaker 1: by the time it comes around, because that's not too late.
Speaker 3: Twenty two point six million dollars for Aiden Hutchinson. That's
Speaker 3: a pest. I pick up the fifty year option, yes
Speaker 3: or not. Derek Stingley is made a Pro Bowl ten
Speaker 3: point two million dollars.
Speaker 1: This is big money.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Sauce Gardner. I mean those guys are yeses, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: But the difference between that and just the basic uh
Speaker 3: for extingly for example.
Speaker 1: And probably the same for Sauce, he made a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: It's eleven million, eleven point seven million compared to seventeen
Speaker 3: point two it's a significant amount of Yeah, Gardner's twenty
Speaker 3: point four million. Basically he more than Stingley because he's
Speaker 3: made multiple probra so multiple I think that's the thing
Speaker 3: that's he gets. He gets the highest level of that.
Speaker 3: So if you if you look at, for example, Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 3: the Steelers would have been making a decision on Kenny
Speaker 3: Pickett this year the basic play level for him, because
Speaker 3: he would he didn't play the snap total in his
Speaker 3: rookie year and he didn't get there obviously this past year. Right,
Speaker 3: So for Philadelphia to pick up the fifty year option
Speaker 3: would be twenty point seven million dollars. I mean there's
Speaker 3: no chance they will. Had he stayed with the Steelers
Speaker 3: and not made a Pro Bowl, would have been twenty
Speaker 3: three point basically twenty three point eight million.
Speaker 1: So here's a weird question you might not be able
Speaker 1: to figure out. But let's say he was great and
Speaker 1: you loved him and you didn't trade him, and Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson ever existed, the pick worked out, and he's your
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. You know what that would have cost? Would
Speaker 1: it had been the same as Sauce? I guess depends
Speaker 1: on well, if he made a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: I was going to get to that. You're drimping ahead
Speaker 3: too much here. If he would have made a Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl one.
Speaker 1: Right, one out, mahomes Alan Lamar.
Speaker 3: Thirty five point twenty six million. If he makes two
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls, multiple Pro Bowls, it's forty one point three million.
Speaker 3: But if he was awesome, you're happy about it, right,
Speaker 3: If he's awesome, happy about it. But there's there's no
Speaker 3: delineation here like there used to be past those top
Speaker 3: ten picks where you just got slotted in wherever you
Speaker 3: were picked at and you just made one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty thousand more than the guy who was picked ahead
Speaker 3: of your. Right, now it's it becomes much more.
Speaker 1: And some positions are easy to go to Pro bols
Speaker 1: than others. Yeah, right, you know, easier to go as
Speaker 1: a corner than.
Speaker 3: A quarterback Tyler Linderbaum, for example, expense the Ravens have
Speaker 3: to pick up Tyler Linderbaum's first round tender. Well for
Speaker 3: offensive lineman, that's just lineman, right, it's just offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: So Tyler Linderbaum to pick up his fifty year option
Speaker 3: for the Ravens twenty five point one five million for
Speaker 3: a center for a center, right, they're not picking that up.
Speaker 3: And he's a successful pick. They're not picking that up.
Speaker 1: They're not picking it up. They'll try to work out
Speaker 1: another I deal with this mansion, right all right, and
Speaker 1: they well, but they could not pick it up and
Speaker 1: then franchise them.
Speaker 3: But that's still a line. It's going to be more
Speaker 3: than twenty five million in.
Speaker 1: That because it's tackle money, right, yeah, it's it's the
Speaker 1: system is broken, system screwed up. They made a good pick.
Speaker 3: They also had Kyle Hamilton in the first round that year.
Speaker 3: He's a safety. Well, his he made prow His fifty
Speaker 3: year option is nineteen point six million dollars. They probably
Speaker 3: pick it up, but that's an auci. So to pick
Speaker 3: up both of those options would cost them over forty
Speaker 3: million dollars. They're not picking them both up. And doesn't
Speaker 3: mean they don't love the player.
Speaker 1: Or that it was a bad pick or ust or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're perfect examples, even more so than nausey. Right, these
Speaker 1: were great picks.
Speaker 3: You hit on those picks. They're the only three guys
Speaker 3: between That's the thing. Sauce Gardner, Kyle Hamilton, and Tyler
Speaker 3: Linderbaum are the only three guys from that first round
Speaker 3: who have made multiple.
Speaker 1: Multiple Pro Bowls. But you can get safeties. I mean,
Speaker 1: like corner is an expensive position. Safeties and centers aren't.
Speaker 1: It's one of the arguments why you don't.
Speaker 3: Take Tyler Smith, who has taking one pick ahead of
Speaker 3: Linderbaum in that same draft and has been a good players,
Speaker 3: made made a Pro Bowl. You could make the argument
Speaker 3: he's been a better player than Yeah. Right, he's twenty
Speaker 3: two point seven million because he's only made one Pro Bowl,
Speaker 3: which is easier to pall it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Still, it's a lot for guard. They probably will do it.
Speaker 3: So folks, when you're talking about the fifty year option
Speaker 3: and team's not picking it up, yeah, it's different than
Speaker 3: it used to be.
Speaker 1: Massively, massively Okay, that's interesting. I was curious about pick
Speaker 1: it just as a mid round quarterback that hits because
Speaker 1: maybe it was I went next year. Whatever.
Speaker 3: You know what, Zach, you're almost better off taking cheaper
Speaker 3: positions in the first round so you can pick up
Speaker 3: that fifty year option on them as opposed to taking
Speaker 3: a premium.
Speaker 1: Well, then you get the problem that the Baltimore's have
Speaker 1: them with a safety and center, that they're too expensive
Speaker 1: because well, but if.
Speaker 3: You have two first round draft picks. Yeah, if you
Speaker 3: don't have two first round draft picks.
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't probably pick up linder Bombing.
Speaker 3: It's the same argument I had last year with people
Speaker 3: when I said, you don't take a center in the
Speaker 3: first round because of this, Because of that, you're not
Speaker 3: going to You're not going to pay a center twenty
Speaker 3: five point one million.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're saying the same thing I thought
Speaker 1: you were saying the office standards. I'm like, no, right,
Speaker 1: taking a center in the first round is bad because yeah,
Speaker 1: wait until Frasier Creed Humphrey.
Speaker 3: Taking a guard in the first round is kind of like,
Speaker 3: what are you doing.
Speaker 1: The fact that the NFL puts all offensive linemen together
Speaker 1: for franchise tags and stuff and this type of thing
Speaker 1: is so dumb.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same thing linebackers. Whether you're an edge
Speaker 3: rusher or linebackers, you're the same thing. You get you
Speaker 3: get the price for a linebacker, whereas they need different
Speaker 3: position designations, Like there is no designation here for defensive end.
Speaker 3: It's either defense. There's no there were no defense line
Speaker 3: or linebacker. There were no defensive tackles taken in the
Speaker 3: first round that year, so they're all, Okay, that's a
Speaker 3: weird year there, yeah or no. Deontay Wyatt was the
Speaker 3: only one. He was the first guy, and he's thirteen
Speaker 3: million as opposed to George Carl Loftis.
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Davis went in the first round at
Speaker 1: the year too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where's he at? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, defensive tackle
Speaker 3: is eleven point four to six for and that's just
Speaker 3: the basic because he hasn't made a Pro Bowl as
Speaker 3: opposed to it would be twelve point six or eighteen
Speaker 3: point nine to nine five if he had made approb.
Speaker 1: So like when Jalen Carter is up a year from
Speaker 1: now with them, he's gonna be eighteen, but for him
Speaker 1: to be more.
Speaker 3: Than that, he can might be multiple Pro Bowls by then,
Speaker 3: and then you're looking at you know, way more than
Speaker 3: what this is. Now, where where'd he go? He would
Speaker 3: be uh twenty like Sauce Land. Yeah, you're talking twenty
Speaker 3: three point four million. It's different. It's not not what
Speaker 3: it used to be, folks, that it's just not. It's Yeah,
Speaker 3: these are big bites. A lot of these guys are
Speaker 3: not going to have their fifty year option picked up.
Speaker 1: No, I bet there's tennish. Yeah, some of those guys
Speaker 1: to be getting Will Hutchinson instantly.
Speaker 3: It's another reason why not to go too far down
Speaker 3: the rabbit hole thisss. But it's another reason why some
Speaker 3: of these guys are getting traded before that fifty year
Speaker 3: option becomes an option. Absolutely, just I don't want to
Speaker 3: let somebody else deal with that because I want to
Speaker 3: get I want to get something for the guy now.
Speaker 1: Because oh, by the way, you could pick up Sauce
Speaker 1: and then he could blow at his knee. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: again you're guaranteeing two years on the road, which is dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break where for that he is.
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the
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Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson
Speaker 3: and just some news and notes from around the league here.
Speaker 3: Matt Kevin O'Connell gets a multi year extension with the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I think he's on a bang up job in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but he's going to start hearing that real soon.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's crazy league.
Speaker 3: Won a lot of games, but.
Speaker 1: A lot of coaching news, a lot of rumors, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Colts have officially hired lou An Arimo as
Speaker 3: their new DC.
Speaker 1: I like that move for them. I think that's exactly what.
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson officially in with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like the most recent Saints head
Speaker 1: coaches are likely to be the DC and special teams
Speaker 1: coordinator for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going to the veteran route. Looks like
Speaker 3: Josh mcday aniel was going to return to New England
Speaker 3: as offensive coordinator with Oh really, yeah, there you go?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean with Ray Boy. I guess that adds up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Brian Schottenheimer is going to interview with the
Speaker 3: Cowboys for their head coaching position, for their head job.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about that? Yikes. The big one is Glenn
Speaker 1: is in New York with the Jets right now and
Speaker 1: Schefter and those guys are like, they're not gonna let
Speaker 1: them leave without a contract, you.
Speaker 3: Know, So maybe we get that news next. The Buccaneers
Speaker 3: also feel like Liam Cohen is going to get offered
Speaker 3: the Jaguars job.
Speaker 1: They brought There was three of them that they tried
Speaker 1: for a second interview. He's the only offensive minded one.
Speaker 1: It seems like that's there's going to be the choice
Speaker 1: for the Jags. That's hard on the Bucks though. You
Speaker 1: you lose an offensive coordinatory two years in a row,
Speaker 1: the chances you're going to hire the next one hit
Speaker 1: three in a row is a hire is pretty slim. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That hurts the Bucks bad. That does absolutely. So We'll
Speaker 3: continue to see what happens here with some of these
Speaker 3: changes that take place in guys moving around in the league.
Speaker 1: But there's probably a couple of things between now and tomorrow.
Speaker 3: That was one of the things that people talked about
Speaker 3: with Detroit did well. They were able to keep both
Speaker 3: of their coordinators. Well maybe not this year, but.
Speaker 1: They'll definitely lost one. And Glenn's a hot ticket because
Speaker 1: I know the Saints are heavily after him too. That's
Speaker 1: why the Jets want to lock the doors on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see if Campbell can overcome that. He's not
Speaker 1: a schemer.
Speaker 3: No, he is biting a kneecata right right, raw, raw guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I think they could be take a step back.
Speaker 3: And get some former Steelers on that staff. Maybe one
Speaker 3: of them will get.
Speaker 1: I wonder I play Randa l or one of those
Speaker 1: guys gets a bump. Yeah, they had a lot of
Speaker 1: former players on that team. Absolutely, so see where that goes.
Speaker 1: But Matt, that's going to do for the show today.
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